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Joining me this lunchtime - Mark Lawrenson, John Hartson

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Plenty to get through and you can get involved, too -

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just use the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media, or text 85058.

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Here is what is coming up this afternoon: Liverpool's 31 win at

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Stamford Bridge puts Jose Mourinho's position under huge

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pressure. Manchester City stayed top after just about seeing off Norwich

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at the Etihad. Only goal difference separates City and Arsenal who won

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at Swansea. And what about Leicester, continuing their fairy

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tale start of the season? Here is what the papers are saying. Mourinho

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battles the all Blacks for column inches. The Sunday Mirror reports

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that Mourinho is on the brink after yesterday's defeat. The Sun on

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Sunday says that he has two more games to save his job. They also say

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that by Unicom monitoring Harry Kane. The express paper says that he

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will stay and fight. It would be rude to start anywhere other than

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Stamford Bridge and that re-1 defeat against Liverpool. He is Jose

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Mourinho speaking to Guy Mowbray. What are your thoughts on the game?

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I can't express my feelings. In any way at all? In any way at all. What

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is the reason for that? I think you are not just here to interview me or

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other players or other managers. I think you are also here to see the

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game. I believe that. And I believe you could do that part of your work

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and let me out of more comments. But in the game itself, it is our job to

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ask questions about what you see in the game? What I see from my players

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was good until the moment where they felt it was impossible to do better.

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I think you are referring to Luca staying on the field. Do you feel

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unable to speak about things like that? I don't speak. Do use big

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about what happens next? What do you tell the supporters today? I think

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they are not stupid. I don't need to tell them anything. They know how

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much myself and the players are trying. They know how much myself

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and the players feel sad with the situation. They know why we are

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getting bad results. They know what is pushing us. Does the fight go on?

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Of course the fight goes on but sometimes there are fights that are

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very impossible to win. You go into a fight with different ammunition.

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There are some fights that you cannot win. Do you feel a bit

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beating? Enough. Enough. We are not used to seeing you like this. I can

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play against any team, against any manager, my team can play against

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any team and win or lose but, er... More than this is difficult. Thanks,

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Joe say. There we go. A long interview but

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definitely worth playing in full. Guy Mowbray did well hanging in

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there. Without belittling Ollie's job, looking at the papers today,

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everyone is guessing, aren't they? The people have already sacked him.

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Where do we go? We are guessing because we don't know the mind of

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Roman Abramovich. Yes, he has fired managers before. I think the only

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one he said he wished he never had was Ancelotti. There are so many

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different factors to factor in. They've got a Champions League game

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on Wednesday. As the saying he only has two games left, someone is just

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guessing. The next one is Stoke away. If you win on Wednesday at the

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Champions League, it looks like he is almost guaranteed to get through

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to the knockout stage. He's not going to win the league anyway, even

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if they have an unbelievable run, so it is a really difficult one. The

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great problem for the man in the street is, he's gone from the great

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winner to the great whinger and we are also looking at him going,

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"Jose, shut up". He is the happy one now. That was his second coming.

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Everything now is a major deal that yes, Luca could and should have been

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sent off. Cost could and should have been sent off but get on with it. --

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Costa. Ollie, does it come down to Roman Abramovich's relationship with

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Jose now? And we don't know what that is. What has been striking in

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terms of the difference between the current situation and the situation

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with Ancelotti, with Scolari, with DiMatteo, there has been a concerted

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attempt by Chelsea to steer people away from the idea that he is going

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to be sacked, not particularly over the last few days but generally,

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there has been a message of, this guy gets more time. That hasn't been

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the case in the past and it is interesting that they've been doing

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that and a couple of players a couple of weeks ago spoke up on

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behalf of Mourinho during the international break but it is very

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clear speaking to people around the situation that patience is limited,

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patience is being tested and in terms of the precise timescale, I

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think it is a question of, do they reach a tipping point? Whether that

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pinpointed yesterday, it doesn't look like it. -- tipping point is

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yesterday. I can see this only going one way. My own personal point of

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view is I think if there is going to be a change at Chelsea, either the

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manager will be sacked and he will go, whether Abramovich backs the

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players or whether he backs his manager. We saw it for years and

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years with Alex Ferguson, 26 years at Old Trafford. He was about to

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build 34-macro different teams. Carte blanche, his decision. If you

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look at the way the team are playing, there are too many players

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underperforming so at this he isn't right in the dressing room. There is

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talk of mutiny and players not wanting to win for him. How has it

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come to that? He is leaving players out. He has left them all out. Matic

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didn't play yesterday. Matic was the best in midfield player last

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season. Hansard all the awards. He is one the most sought-after players

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in world football and they are leaving him out. Cost has been

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nothing but trouble. I think he's got four goals. This is a guy that

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got 27 goals, 30 goals at this stage last season. I like Costa but not

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when he isn't scoring goals and he is just out there causing trouble.

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He should have gone yesterday, for me, when he rigged his studs down

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another player's chest. It should have been a second yellow card.

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There is no argument over that. He is looking straight at it. He has to

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send him off. Why he doesn't, I don't know. What is the real touring

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about the whole thing -- Boro will touring about the whole thing is

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that they've gone from the Premier League last year and the off-season,

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and they've gone just completely fallen like a stone. They came back

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late. Arguably, they've improved the squad. Terry has got a bit older,

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Jose's dad has been ill and we wish him well but these are all just

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excuses, really? The other problem he's got is that so many of them are

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playing cruelly. -- Pru Leith. I think that the reason they won the

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league was that they were so difficult to beat. They were the

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team last year, and I think this is how you win the league, is when you

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play poorly and win. When you were playing at Liverpool side,

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consistently winning titles and trophies, can you go from being

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there to not challenging and finishing second or third but

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actually dropping to mid-table? It didn't happen for us but you can Lee

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Spick of your own experience. But that's why everyone else is looking

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for something else and the first thing you look at is the manager. It

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is relegation form. The other thing is, that quote this morning where

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one of the player said, I'd rather lose for him than win for him, it is

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somebody who has been dropped a view times, I would suggest, but you

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always get that in football teams. The ones who don't like the manager

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are the ones who aren't playing. But the problem is now everything points

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at Jose. How does he turn it round? We saw him after the early kick-off

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yesterday, out in the centre circle with all his staff, which is a show

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of... Well, there we go. We can see him out on the pitch. Where does he

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go from here? That can't be a private conversation because you can

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let breed. He knows the cameras are on him. It was like the tactics for

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the New Zealand rugby final. As he was saying, you guys, ie us guys,

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have always criticised Abramovich in the past for sticking with managers.

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-- not sticking. I think it is time that Abramovich stuck with a manager

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long-term but is Mourinho the guy that is a long-term job, I don't

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know. Players who have run through brick walls for him in the past seem

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to stop running through brick walls for him. I think Murray knew would

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consider it it in terms of a long-term job now because he is a

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Chelsea. -- Mourinho would consider. It is all well and good saying that

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but when the fans turn, does he have another legendary status to keep

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getting these results? They will turn, when they? I'm not sure if

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they will. Is that not a matter of time? Well, if he keeps losing,

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eventually he will get the sack but that's only if he keeps losing. It

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is just an unbelievably strange situation to be in and I hate that

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thing when they say, he has lost the dressing room. As Lee was saying,

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last year and the two previous years, they have been brilliant for

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him, these players. What is the sign of a good manager? Not just winning

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trophies but improving players and now it is the complete opposite. It

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is Jose and we don't really know... It is like he has just self

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combusted. A real strange one. How long has he got left, in a short

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sentence? I think he will be there at the end of the season. I would

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say a few weeks. You must know more than the rest of us! I think they'll

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stay with him. Even if this pool run carries an... Who do you get?

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Exactly. I think they will stick with him. If Klopp was still

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available, that would probably be an appealing contingency plan.

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We will hear from Jurgen Klopp in a couple of errors. If you are

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watching on BBC Two, we also want Radio 5 live today and it is the

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first day of the decisive test. Two quick wickets. 190 647. A fiercely

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spinning delivery after Sarfraz Ahmed went, ending a 90 run

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partnership. Moeen Ali got caught at the mid-wicket boundary. In the same

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over, England reviewed and LBW shout. Some worrying news for

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England - Ben Stokes off the field. He fell heavily on his right

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shoulder attempting a catch and left the field in a sling. Not good signs

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for England but good signs in terms of the match situation. 200 up now

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for Pakistan, for seven. We talked about Jurgen Klopp - first

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win in the Premier League Liverpool. He was asked, Liverpool title

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contenders? Listen to this. Considering this win today and

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considering that you are going to play Man City in two weeks, do you

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think you are ready to fight for the league? To fight for what? For

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winning the league. Oh, please! Are you crazy? I don't understand the

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question. Please. In three weeks? Roundabout? Everybody should win the

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league. All the others have had pressure the whole year. Do you

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think after one win we should think about this? There is the answer to

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that. Jurgen Klopp unbeaten and he said all the way at the beginning

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that it was about the progression. You got those three consecutive

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draws but we were both at Bournemouth on Wednesday night and

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saw the progression but they have gone up another gear. That's right.

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He is talking about winning the league but I think certainly top

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four. If they can get Sturridge and Ben techie playing together, what a

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frightening thought for defenders. There was progress on Wednesday.

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There were a couple of chances. There are some big names there that

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he can afford to leave out in the week, like Milner and Alana and

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these types of people, and bring them back in like he did yesterday.

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He has options for top he is still without Henderson but I think there

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has been progress at Liverpool since he's been there. His biggest job is

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getting Sturridge fit because we are talking Lazarus. Who knows when he's

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going to be fit? You were at Stamford Bridge yesterday. The chat

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on Merseyside - how well are they taking to him?

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They have really taken to him. He gets the club and he gets the

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history. It isn't about him, it is about the side. He has got them

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playing well. They are pressing the opposition. They kept the ball well

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for the first 40 minutes, but they never looked like scoring. The goal

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before first -- before half-time was the big moment. Completely

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shell-shocked Chelsea. The other thing, if he were the manager, you

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would want to play for him. You really seriously would, because you

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just get him. Let's talk about Manchester city, a 2-1 win against

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Norwich. City went ahead through Otamendi. An absolute howler from

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Joe Hart. The mistakes are magnified with goalkeepers. Yes. It is

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difficult to criticise Joe Hart, one of the best goalkeepers in the

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world. It was a genuine mistake. He took his eye off the ball. The one

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good thing about City is when they conceded in the 80th minute, to make

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it 1-1 - Rooney and header from Otamendi, by the way. What a header!

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With city, they are the type of team with De Bruyne and Sterling and

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Toure, no aquarium at the moment, but Bony back in form. -- no

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aquarium. City keep going and they never know when they are beaten.

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They keep going until the very last second. Kolarov missed a penalty as

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well, but they got over the line again. Is this the problem? When

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Aguero and Silva are not fit, City never seem to be fully at it. They

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are never at that level. Take the top two players of any team in the

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Premier League, and they will never be the same. It is a problem, but I

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think that victories like yesterday, not playing particularly

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well and winning the game, is massive if you are going to win the

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league. By the way, this league this year is going to be the easiest one.

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No one wants to win it at moment. Everyone thinks they have the chance

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of doing so. Bony was getting a bit of stick from City fans. But we

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cannot all be Sergio Aguero. I did not get a great sense of him getting

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stick. Maybe on message boards and Twitter and the like. Inside big aim

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there was no real sense of that. But it is a big step down from Aguero to

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Bony. Like it was from Aguero Balotelli. You have to be good

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enough to carry the team. He have to carry it forward in the absence of

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Aguero. We all know that he can win games. Bony is a player, and he is

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brilliant for the likes of Silva or Sterling, to play them little balls

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around the corner. He will hold the ball up for you, perfect for them to

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play little 1-2 is all around him. Very unselfish. When he gets a run,

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when he feels confident... That is the key. If he was playing every

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week... When he gets that manacled, he is number one. He knew the

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situation when he went to City. ?20 million, it was a no-brainer.

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Onesie. They paid ?12 million for him. But I would stick with this

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one. He is a player. He has such a big frame, he only gets his fitness

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from playing games. If he is in and out all the time, he will never be

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fit. Our City title winners? I would say so. Looking at it at the

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moment, I would say City and Arsenal one and two. I see City and Arsenal

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being some way ahead of the rest. City expect to win. Arsenal don't.

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Chelsea are out of it now. Liverpool, top four would be happy.

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For City, it would be a major disappointed if they do not win. He

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is the Arsenal manager. I think they took six points off us last year.

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Good first half. We found our rhythm, our pace, our decisiveness

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in the second half. It was a different team. After the first

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goal, it was all us, and after that there was only one winner on the

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pitch. Olivier Giroud has responded very well over the last few games to

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questions that have been asked of him. Of course. That is what you

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want. The less we talk and the more we play, and the better we play,

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that is our real job. That's what he does. I cannot believe I'm going to

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ask this question! Are Arsenal title contenders again, and they have a

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season where they start really well and then, like last season, they do

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not start well. Have they got enough? This is a great season for

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them to win it. They have so many attacking options. And the way that

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the league is so open. The problem with Arsenal is they will always let

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you down. And they will always have eight players injured. When you look

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at them and they go on these fantastic runs, we are all waiting

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to these fantastic results, but then they lose at West Brom or Stoke.

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This is their best opportunity to win it. Seven wins in eight. You

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sense a different arson being now, and a distant -- a different Mesut

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Ozil. Man of the Match yesterday. We have also seen shades of grey. His

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second season was a little bit better. He has kicked on this

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season, and is beginning to influence games. Not in the way he

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was at Real Madrid author Germany, but we are seeing him as a guy who

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will turn matches, win matches at times. He didn't do that often

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enough last season. I look at Arsenal and think they are a team

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who are going to get more than 80 points for the first time in a long

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time. Manchester City have got higher, potentially, and it is just

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a case of whether Man City performs as they can do, or whether they fall

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short of that. Arsenal could be out of the Champions League. They are

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out of the Capital One Cup, and City are not. Joel Campbell, goal in his

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first Premier League game with the striker hat on. He didn't do a lot

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in the first half, simply because he was helping out Bellerin for most of

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the game, because Montero was a real threat. That was a good battle

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yesterday. Campbell had to do a lot of his work defending and getting

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back, which he did very well. Once Arsenal got the lead in the second

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half, he started to play with a bit more confidence and got his goal. I

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think Arsenal are potentially two players away from really

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challenging. City are the team to beat. They have been there for the

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last few seasons. Every team is two players away! You wonder what they

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would do without Giroud or Wolcott. Yesterday with Mertesacker at times,

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he came wants to the ball, and he left Koscielny on his own way Gomez

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went off him and held his line. Gomez should have put Swansea in

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front in the first half, one on one with Cech. Mertesacker had a

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handball in the first half that should have been a Swansea penalty.

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I think Mertesacker is the weak link, and I think a centre-back and

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a top striker, and Arsenal could really contend this. Two games

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today. Everton against Sunderland. Everton do have room for improvement

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with only one win in the Premier League, and they make three changes

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from the defeat at Arsenal in their last outing. Tim Howard stays in,

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despite the performance on choose day, and Seamus Coleman has

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recovered from his illness. Sunderland have won here twice three

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Summly. They like coming to Goodison. Sam Allardyce makes four

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changes from the North East derby, mainly due to injury. O Shea, Kaboul

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and Toivonen are out. That kicks off at Goodison at 1:30pm. Is big Sam

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going to keep Sunderland up? No. Yes. No. Why? I think he needs to

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make some of those average players into good players this season. He

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needs to get performance out of them. I like the way that

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differential O is back in the team today. There's goals there. I think

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it will be a struggle. They have only won the one game, the Derby

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last weekend. Sam would not have had to build the players up for that

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one. Games like today are going to be difficult. I just think that if

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anybody is going to do it it will be Sam, but I cannot see it this year.

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Lawro, if you are a Sunderland fan, is this more short-term... Is it

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more short term play from Sunderland? They have not had an

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Allardyce before. It is like Tony Pulis. It doesn't guarantee that you

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will stay in the league, but it gives you one hell of a chance of

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staying. Every single game is completely different. He will get

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them sorted defensively. It will depend on what kind of business he

:26:41.:26:45.

will be able to do in January, if any. Shortly before he took the

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job, a major conversation was, we are not good enough, we need to

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change the team out in January, so help me. Otherwise he will miss out

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on a pot of gold next year. Would you not give him 30 or ?40 million

:27:00.:27:04.

to get the pot of gold back next season? A point down against Stoke.

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Your thoughts on that, Steve McClaren after the Derby? Newcastle

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reporter. It was that fantastic result against Norwich at home. That

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sticks out as a one-off. They are in trouble unless they improve. It

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follows years of underinvestment, the money they spent this summer.

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They cannot turn the tap on and expect all the malaise of the last

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few years to be lifted. Newcastle probably should have won. You would

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argue that the first 44 minutes at Sunderland, they were by far the

:27:49.:27:55.

better team. He has got a few players, but he has to turn them to

:27:56.:28:03.

regular, consistent performers. In the last few games they have played

:28:04.:28:08.

well, and they look a better side. It is just that little bit of luck

:28:09.:28:11.

as well, that you need when you get down there. Can McClaren bring that

:28:12.:28:19.

luck? I'm sure he can. He has vast experience. He came close at Derby.

:28:20.:28:24.

They lost in the play-off final in the last minute to QPR. Again, that

:28:25.:28:31.

little bit of luck, big moments in big games. He managed England, he

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has been successful in Germany, so I am sure he can do it. Newcastle have

:28:37.:28:42.

Bournemouth next, who play Southampton today. You have to feel

:28:43.:28:49.

for Eddie Howe at Bournemouth. Injury after injury. Slipping and

:28:50.:28:55.

sliding down the table. In all honesty, Wilson, Mings, Elphick...

:28:56.:29:02.

To stay in the league, they all had to be fit and playing well. No

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chance for them now, I don't think. Eddie is not going to change the way

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he plays. They were always going to concede goals anyway because of the

:29:13.:29:15.

way they are, and they are quite open. Now, they are not going to be

:29:16.:29:19.

able to score goals, because the better players are not playing. I

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just don't see it. They have been unbelievably unluckily, with the

:29:28.:29:30.

personnel who have been injured. If you come up from the Championship

:29:31.:29:34.

into the Premier League, we all think, who is going to score the

:29:35.:29:38.

goals to keep them in? You would think players like Wilson, but I

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just don't see it. The other night, we were both there, and Bournemouth

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did quite well. They were unlucky not to go in front. Bob damned came

:29:50.:29:55.

in from injury, and a lot of people think he is very good. Got a game

:29:56.:29:59.

the other night. Stanislas for Bournemouth, kept them out two or

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three times. Real top-class saves, which kept Liverpool in it.

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Let's talk about Aston Villa because they go to Spurs on Monday night.

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Remi Garde - tell me all about it. I was with him at Arsenal as a young

:30:19.:30:21.

lad. Arsenal Wenger brought him in as a player. I don't know him that

:30:22.:30:26.

well, to be honest. Would it be the right fit? Look at Lyon. He won the

:30:27.:30:35.

French cup. He was the Spanish guy that came into West Brom? It is a

:30:36.:30:43.

call. It stinks of that? I'm not sure if stinks is the right word but

:30:44.:30:49.

it is very similar. Not managed in the Premier League, not as good a

:30:50.:30:53.

side as they were last year. Losing Ben Teck, etc, that is a gamble.

:30:54.:31:06.

That is a serious gamble. You are gambling with your Premier League

:31:07.:31:10.

future, just as we said about 110, 120 million. Who do you go for?

:31:11.:31:18.

David Moyes. Would he take it? Possibly. Possibly. Your smile tells

:31:19.:31:27.

a million words. They have got a to associate out and are doing well

:31:28.:31:32.

there. I think he has cleared his rain of all the Manchester United

:31:33.:31:36.

stuff and he will come back at some stage. Whether he would take it is a

:31:37.:31:42.

different kettle of fish but why would you not want a proven

:31:43.:31:45.

Premiership manager? Why would you want to take a chance on a man who

:31:46.:31:50.

has never managed in the Premier League. Would Brendan consider that?

:31:51.:31:55.

I think he would snap your hand off. I'll get Aston Villa and it should

:31:56.:31:59.

be one of the most appealing jobs in the country, the sleeping giant

:32:00.:32:04.

thing is overplayed sometimes but they are very big club who just need

:32:05.:32:08.

somebody to get hold of them. I just don't see it as an appealing job at

:32:09.:32:12.

the moment. The one thing I think the new manager there would have to

:32:13.:32:16.

do - I don't think there is an awful lot of money to spend. He will have

:32:17.:32:18.

to work with this current crop of players stop look at the turnover of

:32:19.:32:22.

players. Maybe that is the problem. Something like 16 players out of the

:32:23.:32:29.

door. There isn't the money but he would have to make the money

:32:30.:32:31.

available because he is going to lose out on 120 million. Why

:32:32.:32:38.

wouldn't you spend 42 get 120? It is an absolute no-brainer. I think

:32:39.:32:47.

clubs that are up for sale... It is very rare that a club that is up for

:32:48.:32:50.

sale looks healthy and like it is going the right direction. It is

:32:51.:32:56.

drifting and waiting to be... Those clubs that drift tend to drift

:32:57.:33:00.

backwards, if anything, and what I said about Newcastle earlier, the

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malaise, the way that stillness sets in... Look at them the last five

:33:05.:33:10.

seasons. Lots of young players but they have still got Michael riches

:33:11.:33:14.

and another experienced player. They don't score goals, which is

:33:15.:33:17.

important for top there has been another wicket in the cricket.

:33:18.:33:22.

Yes, this leg-spinner is out for seven. A second wicket to Stuart

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Broad who has got remarkable figures now. He has bowled 11.5 overs, two

:33:27.:33:35.

45. It would record by the tell of a short ball but the captain still

:33:36.:33:38.

going strong. It could be his last test match. He is on 71. The

:33:39.:33:45.

Pakistan score now two to 4-8. Let's talk about Manchester United.

:33:46.:33:50.

But Selhurst Park yesterday, a goalless draw full top let's hear

:33:51.:33:54.

from Alan Pardew and Louis van Hal. We have been excellent. We have lost

:33:55.:33:59.

games went with a bit of luck we would have had more points than we

:34:00.:34:03.

have but that happens. We are hitting teams in good form. We had

:34:04.:34:09.

to play West Ham, we had to play list in good form. It doesn't always

:34:10.:34:14.

work like that. We are going to stumble on teams who aren't in good

:34:15.:34:17.

form and that will increase our points total but I'm very pleased

:34:18.:34:21.

with where we are. In the end you only need one shot on target

:34:22.:34:24.

according to the statistics, which is great. No, of course not but I

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have already explained, when you don't give the ball you cannot

:34:30.:34:33.

create chances. Do you sense frustration among supporters saying

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attack, attack, we honour to stay united, we should be doing more? I

:34:37.:34:44.

can imagine. You play for defence and Crystal Palace was more pushing

:34:45.:34:49.

than we could do. And then you can expect it. In terms of scoring, what

:34:50.:34:56.

can you do? The confidence is there? You think it is just a question of

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being there at the right place and scoring? I hope so.

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Louis van Gaal and Alan Pardew there. My guests are still with me

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in the studio. No goal in five hours now. Three consecutive goalless

:35:13.:35:19.

draws. The first time since 2005 that has happened. The criticism

:35:20.:35:25.

will be the style and it is a very difficult thing because if you are a

:35:26.:35:28.

Manchester United supporter, what do you want? Would you accept winning

:35:29.:35:32.

the league playing that way, or do you want to go back to everybody,

:35:33.:35:39.

wingers, pace, creating loads of chances, scoring loads of goals? I

:35:40.:35:43.

think they just want to go back to Sir Alex Ferguson winning

:35:44.:35:46.

everything. Very good answer but it doesn't help me. The thing with van

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Gaal, it isn't going to change. That's the way he plays. Marshall

:35:51.:35:55.

has got to play through the middle. He is lightning quick. -- and he

:35:56.:36:03.

will play Rooney in behind him and he will supply him with everything

:36:04.:36:09.

he needs but it is just so slow. They went sideways. They do go

:36:10.:36:14.

sideways but the problem with going sideways is that you don't allow the

:36:15.:36:18.

opposition to get in their shape and it is like, come on, then, come and

:36:19.:36:23.

beat us. If they got somebody up front who is rapidly on belief, you

:36:24.:36:29.

are going to win more games. What about Louis van Gaal's army. They

:36:30.:36:35.

were shouting "attack, attack, and they are maybe frustrated, trying to

:36:36.:36:41.

tell him they don't like it. They don't like it. Manchester United

:36:42.:36:44.

fans are loyal to the core and they will support the club at rain Rooney

:36:45.:36:47.

started the game yesterday as that number nine, the lone striker. He is

:36:48.:36:53.

not dynamic any more. Rain is going to finish his career and is only 13

:36:54.:37:00.

goals behind Bobby Charlton. I think he is at 236. For me now, Wayne has

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still got the brain and the intelligence to play in behind the

:37:08.:37:11.

striker to get on the half term, to go and play in the little holes, and

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he's got the ability and the cleverness to play players through.

:37:17.:37:20.

That is where he can play. He can still get goals. He can't play out

:37:21.:37:24.

on the left. He can't do the shift. He hasn't got the legs. He doesn't

:37:25.:37:31.

want to play there either. When you are a number nine, you've got three

:37:32.:37:35.

or four different roles. Every now and again you've got to go down the

:37:36.:37:38.

side, you've got to be that target, you've got to get across it and get

:37:39.:37:42.

yourself goals. In that Number Ten, it is like a luxury. You can get the

:37:43.:37:46.

ball where you want the ball when you play-off the striker. You always

:37:47.:37:51.

make yourself available for the midfielders, for the defenders, and

:37:52.:37:54.

that is where, like Lawro, I think Wayne has to play to be most

:37:55.:37:59.

effective. And he's got such a great appetite for playing. He's been

:38:00.:38:03.

brilliant. He can do the defensive stuff and everything. I don't

:38:04.:38:08.

understand. We can all see Martial, Rooney. What is the problem. What

:38:09.:38:13.

about Paul Scholes? He said you would want to play in this team. You

:38:14.:38:18.

can't play him. They never replaced. He said this week that he wouldn't

:38:19.:38:23.

want to play in this team. I would much rather watch that team with

:38:24.:38:26.

Paul Scholes in it now because there is no invention in the team. You got

:38:27.:38:30.

inventive players like Wayne Rooney and Juan Mata and Martial. But they

:38:31.:38:36.

only ever seem to attack with four players. We are saying this again

:38:37.:38:42.

and again. No shots in on target in the first half. The midfielders and

:38:43.:38:50.

full-backs very rarely get forward and it is all so slow. It looks

:38:51.:38:55.

deliberate and one of the things that Ed Woodward said when they were

:38:56.:39:03.

winning, Manchester United, everybody knows what kind of

:39:04.:39:05.

football he plays, the wonderful football he played with Barcelona in

:39:06.:39:10.

the 1990s. Anyone who has looked seriously at van Gaal's career knows

:39:11.:39:14.

that that hasn't really been his style over the last decade. He has

:39:15.:39:18.

been more functional and I don't know whether Manchester United knew

:39:19.:39:20.

what they were getting because it seemed like a boardroom

:39:21.:39:25.

appointments. Why is Jamie Vardy such a good player? We will talk

:39:26.:39:30.

about him in a minute. It is that pace. We will get on to him later. I

:39:31.:39:38.

would play Rooney as well. The point I'm trying to make is, because he's

:39:39.:39:41.

got lightning pace he must be horrible to play against. Martial is

:39:42.:39:48.

as quick as him if not quicker but the insistence is, play him on the

:39:49.:39:52.

left. I just don't get it. Another wicket in the cricket. Another

:39:53.:39:59.

wicket and a big one. The Pakistan captain has gone off the bat of Joe

:40:00.:40:02.

Root, who now has figures of three for 15. We have six overs left Balta

:40:03.:40:12.

night. Pakistan are 226-9. Just time to squeeze in last

:40:13.:40:21.

night's game at Leicester. Now eight consecutive Premier League

:40:22.:40:24.

games that Jamie Vardy has scored in. By Mr Roy's record is ten. He is

:40:25.:40:30.

getting closer. It is important but he continues to play for the team

:40:31.:40:37.

also. He works very hard and scoring goals is OK for him, for us, for the

:40:38.:40:43.

record. Is it good for everybody? You took them out for Peter to

:40:44.:40:47.

celebrate last week was what is the celebration this town? Nothing. We

:40:48.:40:53.

concede a goal. You are a hard man. We change, maybe. Thank you.

:40:54.:41:01.

John, I'm not sure what cloudier Ranieri's is thinking on those

:41:02.:41:05.

pizzas but it is working for top -- cloudier. It is his energy and his

:41:06.:41:13.

pace, never mind his ability to finish when he gets the ball. Eight

:41:14.:41:22.

in a row. I think there are a couple of unsung heroes in there. Mark

:41:23.:41:27.

Albright is one of them. He plays wide and switches quite a lot,

:41:28.:41:34.

switches sides. Yesterday two goals. One winning cup side and

:41:35.:41:42.

floated in swinging ball. People are talking about Mahrez and Fardy. Pace

:41:43.:41:52.

is a killer. It isn't just pace. They've got with. Mahrez and

:41:53.:41:55.

Albright. They even had it yesterday. Vardy is the key to it

:41:56.:42:02.

and they basically set the team up thinking, how can we get the best

:42:03.:42:06.

out of it? And it is him. That is all designed for him. That goes back

:42:07.:42:11.

to the Manchester United point. Why don't you do the same with Martial?

:42:12.:42:16.

We talk about pace and wits but what about the spirit? They often two

:42:17.:42:22.

goals behind in games and they keep winning. It is absolutely

:42:23.:42:26.

astounding. A lot of people had them down to be relegated. It is just

:42:27.:42:33.

astonishing. The carry-over from last season, the finish was just...

:42:34.:42:39.

They just kept going. And you said that when we were listening to

:42:40.:42:47.

Ranieri. He is just infectious when you listen to his interviews. Does

:42:48.:42:49.

that mean you shouldn't go near him? I would go near him. He seems

:42:50.:42:56.

like a decent chap. He is happy in his job. You can see it in his face.

:42:57.:43:07.

Why wouldn't you be? You look at Mahrez and he looks like a

:43:08.:43:11.

player... He is a completely different player. Wasn't it a

:43:12.:43:15.

classic case where the Scout went to watch somebody else and saw him and

:43:16.:43:19.

thought, he's not bad, I'll make a note? He has been almost as good as

:43:20.:43:26.

Vardy but it isn't just them. Schmeichel is an outstanding

:43:27.:43:30.

goalkeeper and the left-back bombs on and I love the way they go, they

:43:31.:43:36.

are not frightened of anyone. They say, we will take you on and play

:43:37.:43:42.

you. Go a goal down? Not a problem. We can always score. No nonsense.

:43:43.:43:50.

Just offend the goal. That's all from us. You can get updates from

:43:51.:43:56.

Goodison Park on Radio 5 live. Sunday Morning Live tonight at 10pm

:43:57.:44:00.

with Jason Mohammad. Enjoy your Sunday. See you later.

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