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Good afternoon, welcome to MOTD 2 Extra on BBC Two,

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With me, former England and Leeds goalkeeper Paul Robinson, Match of

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the Day commentator guy made pass Guy Mowbray and Amy Lawrence.

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You can get involved too, just use the hashtag #bbcfootball

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Over the next 45 minutes we will discuss the pressure mounting on

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Garry Monk as Mahrez fires Leicester back to the top.

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Chelsea lose again as Bournemouth claim an historic

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Manchester United draw another blank at Old Trafford.

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And sublime Stoke brush Manchester City aside.

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If you look at the papers this Sunday lunchtime, a lot of them

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talking about Manchester, saying they don't want Pep Guardiola,

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including the Sun, because they are happy with Louis van Gaal. The Mail

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on Sunday have called Jose Mourinho defiant after their defeat to

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Bournemouth and the times have suggested that Garry Monk is on the

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brink of losing his job. The headline, Bourne supremacy after

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Bournemouth's victory at Chelsea. Does Bournemouth's victory at

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Chelsea suggest a very exciting Premier League this season? It is a

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great Premier League, nobody running away with it, it is very close.

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Chelsea taking themselves out of it and nobody seems to want to grab the

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bull by the horns, take charge of this league. For five teams can win

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the league this year. -- four or five. If it is so close, why are

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people suggesting it is mediocre? I suppose if you look at the situation

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regarding European football, there are concerns. Are you judging the

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Premier League as a unit, as it's off, how dramatic and bonkers is it

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this season, or are you judging it by saying that only Manchester City

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go through in the Champions League and England are in danger of using

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their Champions League spot. How do you judge it? In isolation, it's

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amazing, you talk about Bournemouth and Chelsea but in some ways, the

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Stoke and Man City performance, never mind result, is the one that

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makes you sit there and think this is really staggering, the kind of

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clubs, Stoke are always able to upset somebody, you are not

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surprised by that as a result, but you are surprised by the

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performance, surprised by the audacity with which they were able

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to play that they could play the better football by miles. It shows

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you that we have teams who may be regarded as punching above their

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weight upsetting the top teams come it's not about that, they want to

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take you want at football now. What makes it special is what is the

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Achilles heel in Europe, the competitiveness and intensity in

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every game. Teams can't just go on to do that nature is they and

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Wednesday and Thursday night. Manuel Pellegrini was interesting, because

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Manchester City, despite their millions, he said that they only

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have 13 players and may have to continue with that. It is the

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intensity, they can't manage it and that may be why they are getting

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injuries too. Do you think that teams are improving? I had a very

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unscientific poll, involving piece of paper. That wouldn't even stand

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up on family fortunes! I think Watford are eight breath of fresh

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air, Sanchez Flores is very impressive. Norwich are good enough

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to beat anybody, they outplayed Arsenal last weekend and we saw what

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Bournemouth can do yesterday. Of the teams in the Premier League last

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season, six of them have dipped, about five of them are the same and

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six have improved. Leicester, Spurs, West Ham, Palace and Stoke, and

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maybe even Everton even know their league position suggests otherwise.

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I think other teams are getting better, yeah. It is almost elitist

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to think otherwise, to look down on it and think it is in such a good

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Premier League. People only say that because we don't have city and

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Chelsea flying. If you compare the Premier League to the other leagues

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in Europe, we have eight, ten teams, strong teams. Looking around Europe,

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there are one or two teams who win titles every year and in certain

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countries, one team win the title every year. We now have five or six

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serious title contenders. Do we need someone outside of the normal

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suspects to win the league? Can Leicester do it? Everyone is sitting

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here thinking it is a matter of time before they stop. Robbie Savage

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isn't here to ask! Let's thank our lucky stars for that! The Leeds

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teams of the turn of the century, did you feel, even though Leeds won

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it in the early 90s comment did you feel that you wanted to break the

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usual suspects? Yeah, definitely. Leeds and Leicester are different

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because Leicester have come from nowhere but the Leeds team we had we

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were building over the years, two or three years when we were in Europe.

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We felt it was the right time and that we deserved to be there and we

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earned the right. Not saying that Leicester haven't, but it has come

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out of the blue from how we did it. Let's talk about building a site, in

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relation to Stoke. Obviously beating Manchester City, as we spoke about.

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Guy Mowbray was there and he spoke to Mark Hughes. Did you think that

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Stoke sometimes pinch themselves about the players they have? I think

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they are enjoying what they are seeing at the moment and we have to

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continue in the same vein. We slipped up last week against

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Sunderland, on the day. If we can cut those results out of our

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season's programme, then we are a very good team. On occasions, we

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have let ourselves down. But I've been here a couple of years now, two

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and a half years, and those days are becoming less and less and we are

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continuing to produce and we could have a good season again. We have a

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tweet here, flying, attacking football with flair, coupled with

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steel at the back, Mark Hughes for the next Manchester City manager?

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Oh! Apart from QPR, he builds the bull teams. Absolutely, he has taken

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it on a notch -- football teams. A phrase that Tony Pulis used,

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comparing Stoke to Battersea dogs home, taking the waifs and strays

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and moulding them into something. They are still doing that, only with

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the pedigree to start with. If you look at Arnautovic and Bojan and

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Shaqiri, Shaqiri could have been, not as good as but he could have

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been up there with the likes of Messi if not for injury. He was at

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Bayern Munich but was shattered by injury. Now he is relishing his

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football, magnificent player. Bojan, always in Messi's shadow. They are

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bringing on these players in the bounce and they are finding a home,

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would you believe it, in the heart industrial England. The fans must be

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loving it. You also have the old guard, like Jon Walters and Glenn

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Whelan. Ryan Shawcross, their record with him and without him. He was out

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with a back injury. Stoke haven't conceded a goal with him in the

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team. As solid as they come. I think Mark Hughes has done a great job, he

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has changed the style of football, he has been given time and he has

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played a different way to Tony Pulis. Used to hate going to Stoke

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away. I don't think I've ever won at the Britannia as a player, it was a

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horrible ground to go but it is even worse now because they are playing

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great attractive football and he has got in the players he wanted and

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moulded him in the way he wants. As far as building the club and this

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squad, how far could he go with them, given his contacts around

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Europe? Let's not forget that as a player, he played at Barcelona and

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Bayern Munich and he has used his German and Spanish contacts to great

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effect. Going back to what you said about how the Stoke fans are

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feeling, even as a non-Stoke fan, you watch how they played yesterday

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and it is quite surreal because you have a stereotype of Stoke and then

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you see Bojan with this beautiful fancy footwork, playing with such

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panache. It's almost... You can't get your head around it. I think you

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always have a domino effect with building teams, you have to get in

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the first ones who begin the change and then everybody believes that

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there is something different going on here. Then the next wave can come

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on top of that. Probably the hardest bit is convincing those players to

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come in the first place. When you have got the first new style players

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in, people can say oh, that looks great, I wouldn't mind that. Which

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is great, but the whole point, if you are going to have those players,

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and I've mentioned this before, not enough Premier League teams do it,

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you still have to play everybody in the right positions. Mark Hughes

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seems to do that. Some managers change here and there and put

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players in players that -- positions that are not their best but Mark

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Hughes seems to have them where they want to be. It looks like he has

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hands on the recruitment policy, he is signing the players he wants, he

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knows how he wants to play and what positions he wants players in and he

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has been able to sign those players and the chairman has backed him. He

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brought in some great players. We were talking before the programme

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that the Premier League, going back to the 60s, Leicester at the top,

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Stoke flying. Stoke, it is like going back to Alan Hansen and Sir

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Stanley Matthews. Stoke had a reputation, they were always a flair

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team. It is going back to that again. What Paul said about it being

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a probable place to go, it is good to watch but there is still being

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imitation from the stands. I don't think Martin Atkinson got a decision

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wrong. When he gave a free kick against Stoke he was accused of

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giving nothing for them, he was getting pelted. Before the match

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when I did an interview, Mark said it was silly not to understand they

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have an advantage, a whole place to go, the wind is swirling around --

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horrible place. For all of the great players they have brought in, they

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won't ignore them advantage that the place gives them. It is a massive

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advantage. A new stadium, lovely place, but the corners are open, the

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elements play a part. The away dressing room is a tiny one in the

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corner, it has been made bigger but it still isn't very nice! It isn't a

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home team dressing room by any stretch. Under Tony Pulis you knew

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that you were going to have a terrible game. Is that a modern

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thing where the away dressing room is markedly different to the home

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one? Or is that more a sign of the emirates and the Etihad? The

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dressing rooms are now very plush but there is a marked difference

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between the home and away once. The home team, the manager will do it to

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his own specification. The away team dressing room will be perfectly nice

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but it will be the basics, none of those turning on the cold showers!

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Talking about the emirates stadium, there is a big difference between

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the home and away dressing room, it is comfortable and modern but one of

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them is three times the size of the other. There are some specific

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things, there is an awkward pillar in the middle of the away dressing

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room so as the manager you can't necessarily see everybody. It is

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square shaped, so you have people in the corner, who can't necessarily

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seek you directly. The home dressing room is a curved shape, so everybody

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supposedly can see everybody else. Huge attention to detail that they

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did specifically, within the confines of it being a beautiful

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modern stadium and it is comfortable. There is no more

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overheated dressing rooms and freezing showers. They have made it

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as obvious as possible that one has a huge advantage. When Sunderland

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built the Stadium Of Light they painted the away dressing room cold

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blue, to make you feel colder. You wonder if they have given it a paint

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job. A lot of Manchester City fans got in touch yesterday before the

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match and they were pessimistic and it turns out they were right and

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then they were angry. Should they be concerned about how Manchester City

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played yesterday? I'm not sure that concerned in the long term. It is

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like the Liverpool game, too many things went wrong. I disagree with

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Manuel Pellegrini, last week he said that he has 36 separate injuries

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this season but he kept saying it isn't an excuse, it depends on how

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the players play, not the names. They missed the names, we know their

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record without Kompany, Aguero and Toure and it showed. Silva wasn't

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match-up. Kevin De Bruyne tried everything but he wasn't finding

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gaps because of the brilliant Stoke defending. Sterling, he has gone six

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games without a goal, his defending. Sterling, he has gone six

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spell at city without a goal. I think he went quite romance with

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Liverpool last season and he isn't 21 until next week. -- he went four

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months. On Twitter, saying that Sterling

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looks afraid to make an impact. The back line still costs more than

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Stoke without Kompany. Moving on to Chelsea and Bournemouth, we hope to

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talk to Glenn Murray who scored the goal for Bournemouth at the bridge.

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Chelsea, 14 points behind Manchester United in fourth place. Looking at

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the Observer, the sports section, a quotation from Jose Mourinho who

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says that top four is beyond them. Would you disagree? No, I think it's

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a long way. I think they are in a position now where they have not

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been before and that is what they are finding difficult a strange

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season, nothing comes out of Chelsea. Going back to the doctor

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and then on. Things coming out of the club that you don't hear and now

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they are in bad form that they are not used to being in. They are used

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to winning games. The level of players and manager they have, they

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don't go on losing streaks like this and it is foreign for them and they

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don't know how to deal with it and they are struggling.

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USAir yesterday. Did they have some decisions going against them? The

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site is too marginal to tell but what about the penalty? I think they

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were most marginal decisions that can go for against you depending on

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the day. Neither was clear-cut. But Jose Mourinho's body language and

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tone afterwards was quite fascinating. He seems to me to be a

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guy where you expect there to be so much white in the dog, and yet

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they're just did not seem to be that much. -- fight in the dog. You think

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he has something up his sleeve for every situation. He seems like a

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meticulous guy. When he comes in to talk after every game, he has a

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clear idea of how he will deal with the situation and command it

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himself. He wants it to be in his control. You felt like he had tried

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everything, exhausted every possible excuse. No seven minute answers.

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Blaming this one that one. He was resigned. In his demeanour, I just

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thought to myself, this is quite interesting and it reveals a

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different kind of Jose Mourinho. I don't know if he is grappling to try

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and find his way out of this. They look so contrasting in every way

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compared to last year. On text, I feel for Jose Mourinho. Stick

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applied, carrots dangled, nothing works and players not doing enough.

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I think he has pressed reset in himself. After the Liverpool defeat

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when the volcano well and truly erupted, it is like he is answering

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things normally now. As Amy had alluded to, there is almost no

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attitude, nothing coming. The spark that we are used to seeing seems to

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have drained at the moment. The whole club even. No sense of the

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crowd showing any sort of reaction except for just being utterly

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depressed and resigned to this situation. There was no outrage, no

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frustration, obviously no sense of mutiny or even support. Just numb. I

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think that is exactly where they are. I don't see the point in

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changing Jose Mourinho. They will not be relegated and they will not

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win the title. For a whole season they will pretty much be there.

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Stuck in indifference? I cannot see what a new manager would do for

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Chelsea. Do you think they will click and go on a run? You are just

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waiting for it to happen. Why? I don't know why! Another opinion

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poll? Rain the quality of players that they have got, they should not

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be where they are. It is a false position. You just wait for the day.

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Somebody will get a hiding of them. I thought it would be Bournemouth, I

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admit. That must be the most surprised all season, that result,

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apart from Gary Neville getting the Valencia job! Two surprises in a

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week! Let's go to Gary Murray who got the goal at Stamford Bridge but

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first his manager. It is probably the biggest result in the club's

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history. You come to a side like Chelsea and you expect a tough game

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and we got that but we were able to defend our goal and I thought we

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looked like a constant menace. When the goal came it was a good time for

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us. Gives result in the club's history? It is and the club has

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never been in the Premier League before. To win away against

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champions is something we will talk about for a long time to come.

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Hopefully there will be more moments ahead of us and we hope we can use

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this as a springboard to produce more magic days like this. That was

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Eddie Howe. Glenn Murray got the goal yesterday. Good afternoon.

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Hello. The biggest result in the club's history, meaning you got the

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biggest goal in the history of the club. I suppose so! In the dressing

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room afterwards where you celebrating as though it was the

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biggest result? Were you trying to keep a lid on things? We understand

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where we are in the league and how difficult our job is to stay in it.

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I think it was more of a relief. Just knowing that we got a vital

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three points. Do you think it could completely change your season? Is

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that going overboard? I think it will give us a lot of belief, which

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is what we need. We have been playing better recently. It started

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about four games ago against Newcastle. We really dominated the

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game and possession but could not get the ball into the net on the

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afternoon. Since then, at Swansea against Everton, we have been

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progressing. I think the belief is growing within the squad. Hello. You

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probably don't remember because you were celebrating after your goal,

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but as soon as the goal went in and you are all going crazy at 18, your

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manager and coaching staff were gesticulating furiously for

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everybody to calm down and use their heads, which is completely

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understanding given the circumstances with a few minutes to

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go. But it seems like you kept attacking. Yes, this has been

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touched on in training in the past few weeks, that we need to

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concentrate straight after goals, because it can be a weak moment for

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us. He was just trying to get that message over again. I thought it

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worked. We were better attacking, not sitting back and defending

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against a team like Chelsea. With the quality they have got. Going

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forward with it is better for us. There has been a huge debate in the

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media about styles and whether you can play like you did in the

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championship, and whether Norwich have changed their style to concede

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less goals in the Premier League. The debate has gone on in the media.

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We know how meticulous Eddie Howe is, so have you had the same debates

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as a group of players? No, I mean obviously a lot of the group has

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been under the gaffer for a while and they understand his velocity and

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believe in it 100% and I am just jumping on that bandwagon. As far as

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the next few weeks ago, how you played against Chelsea, can you

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repeat that against Manchester United next week, the next game?

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Obviously that is the aim and to pick up as many points as we can

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along the way. The belief has grown in the squad and in the velocity as

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well and that has shown in our performances. -- the philosophy.

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Thank you very much and we wish you well for the rest of the season.

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Glenn Murray on Match Of The Day. Is this a springboard? It has to be.

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That performance against Newcastle, how they lost that is anybody's gas.

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It looked to be the turning point for Bournemouth and then another bad

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result after that so they have to use this. Glenn Murray, if he gets a

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few more goals, he is up there with Jamie Vardy. He has scored at the

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lower levels. He got goals with Crystal Palace, got injured, not

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needed at the new regime, then into the Premier League. If he is free of

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injuries, he could get goals at the top level. I am inventing the fact

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that Jose Mourinho is moving closer to leaving English football. --

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lamenting the fact. And Simon, credit to Bournemouth. You have got

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to beat you up relegation rivals! I only read these out! There is a

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match going on between Rochdale and Bury, 1-0. That will be on later.

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And dwelling against Carlisle at 2 o'clock with highlights on BBC Two

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at six o'clock. -- Welling. And now let's talk about Leicester, winning

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3-0 at Swansea. Riyad Mahrez got a hat-trick. One win in 11 for

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Swansea. This is Garry Monk. I know the history of this club. I have

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been part of that history and I have worked very hard at what I do as a

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player and now as a manager and it is extremely frustrating. Same for

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the players. We have to be very careful, we are in a very difficult

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situation in the league. We need to get results very quickly and find a

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way of playing that is back to what Swansea expect and what I expect and

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what this club expects. That is the most important part. Do you remain

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confident that the current squad can achieve that? I always have great

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confident that the current squad can belief in the players and we have

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achieved history for this club. I have seen what those players can do

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and we have achieved some fantastic things and results against many good

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teams. We are in a period where we cannot quite get back to that level.

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If you are watching us on BBC Two or the website, I don't know if you

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thought this, but he looks absolutely exhausted. Drain. A man

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under pressure but knowing the type of player that he was, he will not

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be going away from the training ground early. He will not take this

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light-hearted. Every moment of his day will be focused on that club

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because they are in a rut. I watched the game yesterday and they had so

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many chances against them. Jamie Vardy getting the record, he had one

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great chance in the first half and yet they lost heavily. It could have

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been more because Leicester had so much against them and they looked

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like they were in disarray. Garry Monk, in the same way we talk about

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Eddie Howe, is so dedicated. There are stories about him wearing a

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microphone in training so he can analyse back his commands to make

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sure he is giving them the right instructions in the right tone of

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voice. The more you delve into the details, the more pressure you put

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on yourself. Only he can put pressure on himself. It depends on

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his personal character. I think it is amazing what has happened to

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Swansea. When I saw them beat Manchester United, I thought here we

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go, better season than last season. It is interesting that he talks

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about the club's history. I don't think the club's hierarchy deals

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with history now. He and Jenkins saved the club and I think they only

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look forward on a daily basis. It is all part of the plan. Michael, you

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have done what you can do, off you go. They are all moving on. I don't

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think it matters that he has been part of the club's history. They

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have to think seriously about the very near future at the moment. Do

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you think they need to realise more that actually they are not pushing

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for seventh, eighth, ninth, Europa League places. They are in a Europa

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League battle. I think they realise that, don't they? I don't know. The

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players, the owners? The club in general. You look at the last few

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seasons they have had, the seasons of progression, and that becomes

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your modus operandi and how you feel about yourself. When you get this

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shot, like with the Chelsea players, they are not used to being in this

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position and it can be difficult. Eddie Howe was saying yesterday that

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his players were used to winning every game last season. That was in

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the championship and for Bournemouth players it is hard to get their

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heads round the idea that they are not winning any more. I like

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Bournemouth. This sounds stupid but there is a way to lose a football

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match and Bournemouth play correctly. They are always in games.

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They don't get thrashed every week. They look like they are going to be

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in games but Swansea yesterday did not look anywhere near. Not so long

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ago they were in that position where they played great football and were

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confident. Maybe that is my point. They need to work out how to win

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games again. If that is ugly, basic, nicking 1-0, that will do them some

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good. They have to stay in the league. Now the remit is to keep the

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club in the Premiership this year. They are hurtling towards a

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relegation battle. Monk deserves to go. He deserves a couple more games

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but I don't think he will be getting them. If they sack him, bring back

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Brendan Rodgers but some newspapers are suggesting Brendan Moyes. The

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People in particular. Great job for David Moyes, but he is still in situ

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and he will get them going again. This time last year, I am sure if

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you pull out a MOTD2 Extra from this time a year ago, which must be a

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very boring day! We were saying things like that about Nigel Pearson

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and now look at Leicester. Partly because of what the players are

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telling me and Claudio Ranieri, I don't want to say can they? Will

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they? They could have had five, six, seven. They were bottom of the

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league after the same amount of games last year. So to go from rock

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bottom to sitting proudly on top and deserving to be there is completely

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extraordinary. I love the way that cloudy Ranieri has taken what was

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achieved last year and tweaked it. -- Claudio Ranieri. He has not made

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enormous changes. You were talking last night on Match Of The Day about

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Kante coming on and his impact, but he wanted players to play every

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moment as though they are desperate. It is fine in a relegation battle

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but difficult at the top of a league. To be desperate at every

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minute of the game for it to be going their way, but that is what

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they are managing to achieve. It is great for football, for a team

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like Leicester to be top of the league. Will they finish there? I

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don't think so. Top four is a big ask for them. The possibility of

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Leicester City in the Champions League, brilliant. That is a strong

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possibility. As to whether they can, they can, they are there to be shot

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at and they are beating everybody. We were talking before the

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programme, when is the last time a team won the league who really came

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from... Hang on, they are not the champions of England? The Leeds team

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from 1992, you would have them, Blackburn have the money. I think we

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are talking about Nottingham Forest and Derby, the days of Brian Clough.

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I know that Leeds are Leeds but they were not expected, that year. Still

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a strong team, Leeds United, who died that too much of an eye. -- at

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an eye. But this is going back to the 70s. Mark says that as a

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Leicester FC Faheem Khan stop smiling. Calvin says that the title

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may not be this time but the top four is. The next game they have is

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Chelsea at home on a Monday night. We will be going there to cover the

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game, fans will go to the game probably expecting them to win it.

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Now, does that change it from the player's point of view? The

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atmosphere may be different? Football is about confidence and

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they are a confident team. They will relish the fact that Chelsea are

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coming to a home game on a Monday night, it will be packed and they

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will be expected to win. Confidence is a huge factor. It is difficult to

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get out of a winning run. Chelsea won't be looking forward to going

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there. That's the one, that's the test of this nonscientific theory

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all round. Many of us expected Chelsea to go on a run, for reasons

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we can't put our finger on and many of us expect Leicester's bubble to

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burst. Manchester United, drawing 0-0 with West Ham yesterday, their

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fifth in nine games. Here is Louis van Gaal. When you walk down the

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tunnel and you heard a bit of disgruntlement from supporters, can

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you understand that from the fans? No, I don't think so because they

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have seen that there was the fighting spirit until the end, they

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have seen that we created chances. They have seen that we have attacked

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with a lot of people. So you cannot always demand that we score goals.

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Because there's also a little bit of luck. But the fans have the right to

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show their opinion. Manchester United, are they not scoring goals

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because they are lacking luck? No, I think they are not scoring because

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they are playing too defensively and not creating chances. I don't think

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they have anybody... In 2013, when Sir Alex Ferguson was in this

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situation, he knew that he needed goals, every one of his teams have

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had goals. He went for van Nistelrooy, Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke.

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They haven't had that this year. Yeah, I would agree with that! Let

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me give you some stats to help you. Javier Hernandez scored for Bayer

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Leverkusen yesterday, 11th in ten, Shinji Kagawa got the winner for

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Boris ea Dortmund, James Wilson scored on loan for Brighton, and

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will clean, on loan at Preston from United, scoring for them against

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Birmingham -- Boris ea Dortmund. Would you put any of them in the

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Manchester United starting line-up? Possibly Javier Hernandez. But he

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never did when he was there. What is really an helpful for Manchester

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United at the moment is what is going on not very far away. When

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there is a lot of analysis about the style, the atmosphere, the sense of

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boredom, you could argue that van Gaal in that interview looked a bit

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bored! But you know, the contrast, when you see the electricity going

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at Anfield under Jurgen Klopp and how quickly the team can change from

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drifting a little bit and looking like there isn't a great vibe around

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the place, and people are not putting into practice what the

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manager wants, because presumably he does not want 0-0 jaws, or something

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is not right, to a feeling of a totally cohesive, brilliantly

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inspired, everybody feeling amazing sort of vibe going on at Anfield --

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draws. It is probably something that exacerbates, if you like, the debate

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around Manchester United. I'm going to ask you a question about Pep

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Guardiola and Louis van Gaal in a moment. Firstly, it is FA Cup second

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round weekend, it is what style against Bury, a big derby. It is

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half-time. A cracking first 35 minutes -- 45 minutes. What style

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trailing thanks to Danny Rose's eighth minute diving header but that

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does not tell them. We of a good local derby -- and Rochdale. --

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really good local derby. Danny Blackman twice denied Henderson from

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close range. The second, I have no idea how he got a part of his body

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on it and deflecting it wide. Bury had chances to double the lead,

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Danny McCue came and delivered one in, Peter Clarke had a header that

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went in but was ruled out. Terrific banter in the technical area as well

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between big Dale and Flitcroft. I don't know how to interpret

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"terrific banter". Let me ask you, many papers saying that Manchester

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United, even if Pep Guardiola becomes available this summer and

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leaves Bayern Munich, that they will stick with Louis van Gaal. The fact

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that several papers have it suggests that somebody has briefed them. Do

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we know that there is no chance of getting him, then? I don't see the

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milage in issuing a statement. A conversation, an idea. I don't quite

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see, someone has talked but I don't see the point in it. I don't think

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it does Louis van Gaal and United very good. Does it come from

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Guardiola? I think most of us think that the Barcelona connection can if

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he comes to England, it is Manchester City but we don't know

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what he's thinking. Bayern Munich lost yesterday so he still has a

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challenge. The you think in some ways United have ruled themselves

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out? Because they were never in! United have a habit of having these

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briefings, there will be a story that is everywhere, it is what they

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do quite generally but I agree with Guy, it seems a nonsensical thing to

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do at this point in time. You could argue it is a weird backhanded vote

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of confidence in van Gaal, saying that even if Guardiola was available

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they wouldn't take him, but I can only see them taking that stance...

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They must know that it is a nonstarter, they may have had some

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conversations and are aware they are not in the picture. If they were in

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the picture, if Manchester United go out in the Champions League against

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Wolfsburg, that may change their thinking? I don't know, I don't

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think van Gaal has done a bad job. He steadied the ship and has put

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Manchester United back where they should be. We can't forget the job

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he has done. I don't think the fans are happy with the style of football

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and the fact they are not scoring goals, but they are not conceding

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goals, by not losing. I don't think he's done a bad job, I don't think

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his job is available. In the Champions League it is a big week

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for Arsenal, or do you think there is a resignation that it is going to

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be hard to get through? It's a big week for Arsene Wenger rather than

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Arsenal. Arsene Wenger talks often about his record in the Champions

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League, it is a defence mechanism. When he's under pressure it is the

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first thing he turns to. Not many clubs have qualified as many years

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in a row sequentially as Arsenal, not just to get to the Champions

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League but getting out of the group stage. He's proud of that, he is a

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proud man and he wants to sustain it. Personally, apart from anything

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else because if they go through they will go out in the first 16 anyway,

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it is part of him being able to say, look around Europe, tell me how many

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teams have done 15, 16 years in a row getting into the Champions

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League and the group stage? I know we don't know, that's the beauty of

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the game, but do you think they will do it? I think they would have done

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it if Alexis Sanchez were there. Newcastle and the Nepal is the one

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funnier league game this afternoon. -- and Liverpool. David says that

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the problem at Newcastle goes beyond the players, the fans deserve more

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than this but this under Mike Ashley. There are reports that Steve

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McClaren has two games to save his Newcastle career, which would be

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Liverpool and Spurs. Good luck with that! It isn't looking good, is it?

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I don't know if it's as clear as that. I think it is reasonably good

:40:19.:40:24.

knowledge that Steve McClaren is on the Newcastle board and he plays a

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part in some of the decision-making. I don't know, I don't know if it is

:40:29.:40:32.

that close but if they get thrashed today and the mood really turns,

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there is every possibility against Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool of that,

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then there is that possibility. He mentioned confidence 34 times in the

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press Conference ahead of the game. What is he like when things get

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tough? From the outside looking in, he has lost the dressing room and

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the players are not playing for him. They folded so easily against

:40:57.:40:59.

Crystal Palace and when you are playing against a team with no

:41:00.:41:03.

confidence, there are divisions, you can see. There is no leadership,

:41:04.:41:07.

they have no experience leaders, nobody wants to fight and work off

:41:08.:41:11.

the ball. Nobody wants to dig in and win the ball. It seems to me from

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the outside that he has lost the players. That is against the

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players, rather than him, isn't it? As a professional, you have a

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responsibility, you have to look after yourself and the players are

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not doing it. The manager cannot control the players this much. It

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looks like they lacked leadership and direction. Say that Newcastle is

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a hard place to full Bale -- hard place to play. Newcastle have not

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won the league since 55. The fans demand application and performance

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and they are not getting it. Can he rant and rave? Yes, he can throw the

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teacups around, and he's a very good coach, a very good coach. They need

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a bit more, don't they? When you say he's a good coach, that's the big

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debate at the moment, between coach and manager. Yeah, for me, in my

:42:09.:42:14.

situation with England, his man management, how he handled my

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situation, I didn't think he was great. He may have developed, but

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for me, his man management skills were lacking. Is it true, is it

:42:21.:42:27.

generally considered, the higher level you get, international and

:42:28.:42:30.

European level, is it more about the man management and coaching? Because

:42:31.:42:35.

the players can presumably play. Man management is a huge part of it,

:42:36.:42:37.

getting to know your players and getting the best out of them. The

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England manager's job, being together for ten days, you need a

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good man management and -- man management and tactician. It is

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tactical and leadership. Are you surprised that in the time he has

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had he has not engineered more of a change with that group? Yes because

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he has signed his own players as well, he brought in what he wanted

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to bring in. It surprised me, the lack of success they've had and how

:43:08.:43:14.

quickly it has dipped. And Liverpool, if they win this today,

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there will be a few more people putting a few quid on them. But it

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now, they are title contenders, no doubt. I think we all have a love

:43:23.:43:28.

affair from afar with Jurgen Klopp, until he came to the country but he

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is motivation and enthusiasm, what he gives the players. Daniel

:43:36.:43:39.

Sturridge, his constant injury, it seems it isn't now, he told him it

:43:40.:43:44.

isn't and it isn't. Remarkable. Final text from Hassan, he says that

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this season will be a 2 horse race between Leicester and Liverpool.

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