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Good afternoon and welcome to programme Max. -- MOTD2 Extra. With

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me we have the former Newcastle manager and coach John Carver. And

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the football journalist Henry Winter and we want you to be involved. Drop

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us a text or join us on Twitter. and we want you to be involved. Drop

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Over the next 45 minutes we will discuss Jamie Adi scoring in his

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10th consecutive Premier League game as Leicester go top. We

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10th consecutive Premier League game Liverpool thrashing Manchester City,

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Arsenal being beaten at West Brom and the injury crisis there and we

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look ahead to the London derby this afternoon between Spurs and West

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Ham. Loads on the back pages. For kissing on comments from Louis Van

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Gaal saying he wants to get Cristiano Ronaldo from Real Madrid.

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-- focusing. Goals have gone with artful Dodgers. Focusing on Mikhail

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Arteta, Arsenal losing at West Bromwich. The Sunday Times... A

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full-page picture of Jamie Vardy after his goal at St James's Park.

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We start with him and Leicester. The fact they are top of the Premier

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League. We will hear from Claudio Ranieri. A special day for Jamie

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Adi. Fantastic. A great champion. He deserves this, he trains well. It is

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important for him, but it's important for everyone in the club.

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important for him, but it's The squad... I am glad because we

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play like a team, that is important. You have managed a lot of really

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great players in your career. Have you ever come across a goal-scoring

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run like this? Yes, in Fiorentina, I you ever come across a goal-scoring

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remember, there were 11 goals scored in 11 matches in a row. And I hope

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Jamie Vardy could achieve this. Your team are top of the table. How do

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you feel looking for? I feel good but also how the rest of the

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people... I want to see what happens. Now we are in the big

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matches and I want to see the reaction. Manchester United,

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Manchester City, Chelsea, the next three teams to go to the King Power

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Stadium. From the bottom of the table to the Premier League summer

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22 games later, what a turnaround, John Hume at the game but what you

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most? They have energy, they are hard-working. Not many superstores,

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not many big signings. Jamie Vardy has equalled the record, he could go

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on and smash it but they are hard-working. Honest, well

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organised. We talk about how Nigel got them into this situation but he

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had to find a way of playing with the players he had. But this man has

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taken on to the next level. I think there will be a theme running

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through the show, watching sites who looked like they are having fun and

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playing for the manager. Give me the opinion of a striker before we go

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on. I watched him for the past five games. He has different attributes,

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he is deliberate. He runs ahead of the ball, great feet, looking to get

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forward. Do a positive touch. He represents a different kind of

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forward. Liverpool... Romelu Lukaku at Everton but Jamie is different,

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he is direct, quick, deliberate. He is interesting in the Premiership.

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Do you find that refreshing in an era dominated by statistics and pass

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completions? There is someone who is direct and will run. He might lose

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it from time to time but so what? Absolutely, Leicester need to be

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like that, they need to be direct and hard-working and energetic.

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Jamie represents that and for Leicester, that is what he is great

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at. He has scored so many goals because of that approach and it

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works. Do you give Claudio Ranieri a lot of credit. We go back to talking

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about players playing with freedom, as a collective, does that come from

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him? Nigel got them in the right frame of mind. They finished the

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season superbly. With a player like Jamie... The greatest compliment

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paid to him yesterday as well as the tweets congratulating him, but was

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classy... Was the appreciation of the Newcastle United fans and

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looking at it from their perspective, what you see with him

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is what every fan wants. When he takes the shirt off, it will be

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soaked with sweat because of everything he has given, the effort.

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The Newcastle fans for applauding him and for the England connections,

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the record... But also because they would like to see that from some of

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their players. Absolutely, the thing for me that comes across, he is

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humble. Newcastle fans didn't applaud him just the once, when they

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went back to the centre circle, everyone stood up, myself included

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and they applauded the achievement but said he was substituted with 20

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minutes to go, the entire stadium, it was a bittersweet pill for me. We

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lost the game but I was so pleased to be in the stadium to witness

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that. The one thing about this guy and I talk about him being honest,

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he would chase a paper bag in the wind and he is the catalyst for the

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team. Everything stems from him. I see him working hard and you have

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the midfield behind him, backing him up. I am quite happy. He sets the

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standard for Leicester and everybody else plays off him. For years ago he

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was at Gateshead. Scoring, getting booked. Look at him now. Fantastic.

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Fans love that, the factories romance left in the game. He is not

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a superstar, going back to what John said. It was represented last week.

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The players want him to do well. It's not always about him, he is

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allowed that the entire team wants to do well. -- a person. Every

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single person that loves football wants him to achieve this. Derby

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fans might not... Or other clubs in the East Midlands. I don't know.

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Look at the statistics... Teams who have been leaders after 13 games in

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the Premier League, ad of the last 12 seasons eight of them have gone

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on to win the title. You're going to have two schools of thought, the

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majority will go, it is Leicester, they are going to make it but some

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people will go, why couldn't they come off particularly this season.

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Manchester City, up there, they are supposed to be favourites,

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Liverpool... Everyone says this is Arsenal's season and they slip up.

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It would be one of the most extraordinary stories of all time,

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arguably, going back to Blackburn Rovers 20 years ago in terms of

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Leicester doing that. If Leicester get in the European position, there

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will be street celebrations but what they are doing, it's one of the

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great grounds in terms of noise, commitment of the players. And the

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manager, I covered him at Chelsea, he was treated fairly. -- fairly

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badly, he will be enjoying it. When I was at Newcastle under Kevin

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Keegan, we went to the run, we almost won the championship... It's

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amazing, you get on a roll, all of a sudden, you start thinking... This

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could happen. Something strange could happen, you have already

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said... The lack of one team wanting to get hold of the Premier League

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and taking advantage of everybody else and that misfortune... You

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never know. Ride it, enjoy it, see how far it takes you. But you have

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to keep the psychology, you never know. Eventually, we are going to

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come unstuck. What helps Leicester, it's similar to Southampton last

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year, it takes the pressure. They have had a great season, no matter

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what happens, whether they win the league or not, they have had a great

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season is over teams coming up against them, it's difficult, they

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have no pressure. It's going to be difficult for other teams to face

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and it's going to be a positive for them. For too optimistic to say they

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can challenge for the title but the gap shows Champions League

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potential. Leicester against Manchester United, could be for the

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title, one viewer says. One thing this be sure, Leicester aren't

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getting relegated. Henry, Ken Newcastle get relegated? If they

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carry on defending like that. Leicester, they put on... Get the

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organisation, defensively sorted out, College Amy is in there. They

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have had a few injuries. Don't leave your footing. McLaren is an

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outstanding coach, whether he is an outstanding manager is another

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debate. What is the difference, as someone who has done both? I think

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Newcastle fans have been very patient. We all know what happened

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last year but they have been patient, the club has communicated

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well. In the past, there was little communication with the media, we

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banned some of them and we did not communicate with the fans and we had

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to put that right and Mike Ashley came out and spoke at the end of

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last year and I think they are being patient. I saw a change for the

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first time yesterday, I was in the stadium and I felt uncomfortable

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with that because one thing that the fans desire and expect at St James's

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Park is effort. But was the first time I have seen a lack of it this

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season. One thing I will say, I think we have better players than I

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had last season but they have got to stop producing that. Because you

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will know a lot of those players, Steve McClaren has been brought in.

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Or the mentally strong? Not really and I think if you look at the track

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record, finagle behind, they very rarely come back and win or draw

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against other is something not right in the make-up. But they have got a

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guy in Steve Black who is a psychologist and fitness coach and

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he's excellent. Now he will have to earn his money because what I saw at

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Bournemouth two weeks ago and yesterday, there are issues there.

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How do you make a group of players mentally strong? That is a tough

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one. Whatever is going on in the mind it's not something you can

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tweak, you can have conversations and you can talk but talk is cheap.

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You have got to carry it out and do it, psychology in football is

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difficult, a long-term process and we all know there is not a lot of

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time, results have to start turning around. The key to it is

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recruitment. Recruit the right personalities. We have not mentioned

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Tottenham but I will say it, they have recruited British, English

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players, Newcastle had the philosophy of going for French

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players, Dutch... You don't know them as well. We have enough

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contacts to find out our players, mentally, psychologically, we can do

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more homework with due diligence. When you get players from abroad it

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difficult to do that unless you are working with top layers. The

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recruitment, for me, that has to be looked at, we have to try and buy

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more... I keep saying we... Well, they are your club, you are found.

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We have to start looking at the recruitment because as Jamie Vardy

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has shown, there are non-league recruitment because as Jamie Vardy

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That makes you recruit and develop and -- PDF reading.

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That makes you recruit and develop always been kids

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That makes you recruit and develop then they go... Alan Shearer is a

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That makes you recruit and develop classic example. Why don't Newcastle

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trap these kids and keep them locally and bring them through as

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trap these kids and keep them you did with Chris Waddle. He came

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in at 19. I think you used Michael Carrick as an example.

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in at 19. I think you used Michael into the club, I was a director at

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the time but we never... It was at the time but we never... It was at

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research team said was not an avenue to get into the first team and could

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not keep him, he to get into the first team and could

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but there is an avenue now for young players. Armstrong is on long. I

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will use him as an example. I had to keep him at St James's Park because

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I had nobody else and I held up his development, the club did... They

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I had nobody else and I held up his last season and the season making

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the step up last season and the season making

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Rotherham the championship. We slow down his development so... If a kid

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is good enough you will get an opportunity and

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is good enough you will get an more than Newcastle fans want, a

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local lad, they would love it if he became the next Alan Shearer. You

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would be furious if your became the next Alan Shearer. You

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was held back from a playing point of view for that reason because

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there was not anyone else. Yes, I think

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there was not anyone else. Yes, I young players, they want to play, at

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the bottom line, sometimes going on loan if the best chance for them.

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But on the flip side, then the good enough, they think I can play in the

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first team, I am good enough so it's a balance between like John said,

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knowing the development of the player is better for them to be

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playing week in, week out at a London club but knowing that

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actually, if I have no players, they can come in as well so I think it's

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a tricky balance. Do you feel guilty? I do, because I know his

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parents really well. There is nothing I could do about it. Can you

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imagine if I said, you can go to Coventry. I had no strikers. Then it

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is the fans who are going to come from me. I had to sit down with his

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agent and a boy and explain to him. In normal circumstances it's time

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for you to go out on loan. You need real football. That's just one

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player at one club. You can probably multiply that.

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If you look at Chelsea, the players they have on loan and some of the

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players coming through, one of the frustrations at Chelsea, why isn't

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Loftus-Cheek being developed? They have a fantastic academy but

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you want these place to have games. Loftus-Cheek is good enough to play

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in the Premier League and Mourinho for some reason is not doing it, and

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Abramovich... Not that anyone will ever talk to him... They have put a

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lot of money into that academy. I watched an U21 game the other day,

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he's a good player, but you can see, he's not getting regular first-team

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football and he needs it. Next time you come on, can you ask Roman

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Abramovich? John Cooper says, everything from the owner to the

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managers to the players is wrong at Newcastle, could be a fantastic club

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in the right hands but it's more a business than a football team. Tracy

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says the players don't seem to care about the club or phones, just the

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pay cheque. A.D. Says everything is going wrong, we made the wrong

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appointment in McLaren and mentality is all wrong. #bbcfootball. Just to

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make a final thing on that, Kasper Schmeichel is not the guests this

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evening. Let's turn our attention to the game at the Etihad, Liverpool

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thrashing Manchester City 4-1. If that day when you think everything

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has gone to plan and gone right? I think so, but I think we deserve

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credit for that, the way we went about our business, didn't give them

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a second on the ball and going forward we looked very dangerous,

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Camino, Philippe Coutinho, myself, all joining in. Is it a statement to

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the rest of the league you are here now, in the top set? Possibly, but

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we need to stop slipping up at home. These big wins go unnoticed when you

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don't win your home matches and our home form has not been great this

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season so it is something we need to get right but it's a great platform

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today. Hopefully we can kick on. Manuel Pellegrini was bemused after

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the game and described his team's performance as unbelievable, how far

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were Liverpool sensational? I was at the Etihad, and I thought Man City

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would win the game, because Aguero was back, and I thought Liverpool

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were missing Sakho so I thought they couldn't do with Aguero but it was

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the opposite. Coutinho, Roberto Camino, Emre Can, they were

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unbelievable, almost like Barcelona at times. Like Lallana said, they

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look like they were having fun, every time they went forward they

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looked like they were going to score and the city four were all over the

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place and Joe Hart's distribution was shaky as well. Liverpool could

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have scored a lot more. I have got to say it's quite nice seeing a

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manager who is smiling all the time! And I have to be honest, when I get

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my next job, I'm going to be a bit more like Mr club. Are you going to

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grow some stubble? I'm going to smile a lot! But it was a

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magnificent result, I didn't see it, but I did listen on the radio, and

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it seemed like an interesting game. I feel a bit sorry for Brendan

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Rodgers because everybody is getting on the back of this thing about

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teams pressing and working hard, I remember preparing a team with Alan

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Pardew to go to Anfield, talking about how Luis Suarez and Sturridge

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and Raheem Sterling and Henderson, Lucas, Steven Gerrard, pressed the

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living daylights out of the team, so it's not something new, the wheel

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hasn't been invented, what he has given them is a new lease of life,

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and it's one of the easiest thing is, in my opinion, the coach how the

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press, press from the front, as long as everybody is buying into it and

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he seems to have that. Why don't more do it? You have to have the

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right players, players who buy into it, it's not easy, it's hard work,

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and I think it was Coutinho, who pulled up with hamstring is today

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because he will have been working harder, they will be a bigger demand

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on their muscles. It is easy with the right players, Barcelona of the

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best at it because they have top players but also are prepared to buy

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into what the manager wants and do it properly. They are buying into

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the tactics and him, you can see the body language between him and his

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players, they adore him, partly because of his personality, the

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smiling demeanour and also partly because of his reputation, he was

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this rock 'n' roll German manager, great press Conference, the image of

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him in the past was always, I bet the players will love to play for

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him, he will bring a bit of swagger back to Liverpool, the fans have

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responded to him, you can see that with the banners and the players

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love him. It's not him coming across saying how good he is, it's other

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people saying it, he is just enjoying this. He has two because

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there might be a time when he has a bad spell. But he is enjoying what

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he's doing. It looks as if he has got a mean streak as well and it is

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having that switch, when the did and when not to use it. For me,

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Liverpool didn't always press, and for a player, sometimes when you are

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asked to press, the best thing is when you see the rewards. The first

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goal came from Kenya pressing Sagna, winning the ball back,

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counterattack, G. Ash macro Coutinho pressing Sagna. Press -- pressing,

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they will do it all day. People will say, Ian Rush was doing that 25

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years ago. That was called defending from the front! But at the same

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time, given what you said about Brendan Rodgers and how the players

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would do something similar under him, he lost some of the personnel

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but all the players who were playing yesterday were brought in by Brendan

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Rodgers, so did the players have to take a little bit of a look at

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themselves for not delivering so much under Brendan Rodgers because

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maybe they won't enjoying it as much as they are under this new manager?

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Possibly but let's go back to when Brendan was the manager, he lost

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Sturridge, he lost Suarez, two of the main players, so straightaway

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you are taking away his biggest assets, you have to find

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replacements and a balance. Sometimes that takes longer than you

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think. In Brendan's case it has done, but now Roberto Firmino has

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come in, a new lease of life, sometimes a different voice makes

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all the difference stop just by putting his arm around him, it might

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have made him a better player. He might have treated him differently,

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said something differently to him and he is reacting to it. It was

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interesting to me watching Raheem Sterling he looked nervous, playing

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against his former club, I wonder what he would have been like playing

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under Jurgen Klopp, I think it got a bit stale between him and Brendan

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Rodgers committee felt he wasn't going to go anywhere but same

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players, who were playing under Brendan Rodgers, look like different

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players under Jurgen Klopp, so it is a mentality thing that the manager

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passes over but it's a test of time. We will see in eight or nine months'

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time, whether the energy is still there. Gary says it is definitely a

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mere blip on the road to the Premier League title for Manchester City.

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Another one says that anyone can win it. Do you think it is still

:24:18.:24:21.

Manchester City's to lose? They have such strength in depth, you do worry

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about Aguero's hamstring. I still think Joe Hart is an outstanding

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goalkeeper, they are just so much better as a team when Vincent

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Kompany is there. Do you think there was one eye on the Juventus game in

:24:40.:24:45.

the Champions' League next week? I'm sure Vincent Kompany will want to

:24:46.:24:49.

play every game, you such an organiser, not just the goal threat

:24:50.:24:56.

at corners, it is his personality in the dressing room, he has been there

:24:57.:25:01.

a while, it's almost like he is an old school play, these are the

:25:02.:25:03.

standards of the squad, make sure you deliver stop my worry for Man

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City is, what is their priority? We've thought about them not

:25:11.:25:15.

succeeding in the Champions' League. Now everybody is making a big thing

:25:16.:25:18.

about the Champions' League, have they taken one eye off the Premier

:25:19.:25:22.

League and will put their resources into winning the Champions' League?

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Maybe this week if they get a result against Juventus, they will finish

:25:29.:25:31.

top of their group and they will refocus. It is a tough place to go.

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They dropped Otamendi yesterday, who has been on form, it was a bit of a

:25:39.:25:43.

strange decision and a few of the fanciest they were saying the same

:25:44.:25:46.

thing. Maybe that was an indication that they did have an eye on the

:25:47.:25:54.

Juventus game, they are top of the group, why sacrifice a big game

:25:55.:25:57.

against Liverpool for the benefit of the game on Wednesday? Will Vincent

:25:58.:26:04.

Kompany play on Wednesday night? Big decisions. It will give you some

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indication. Let's move on to the game in Spain last night, El

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Clasico, the meters under pressure after Real Madrid were beaten 4-0 at

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home by Barcelona -- Rafael Benitez under pressure. The Madrid fans were

:26:21.:26:27.

waving their hankies by half-time. They whistled them back onto the

:26:28.:26:31.

pitch after half-time, it will hardly lift the players for the

:26:32.:26:35.

second half. I saw a Tweet this morning saying the only thing

:26:36.:26:38.

working well at the moment are the stadium, as they turned the song

:26:39.:26:43.

that they play at the end up so loud for people not to be able to hear

:26:44.:26:47.

the muscles and the courts for the president to resign, you can imagine

:26:48.:26:55.

what the city is like in the morning after being beaten like that. Is the

:26:56.:27:03.

vulnerable? Very much so. The players wanted Ancelotti to stay,

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and the big players in the dressing room in particular. So it was always

:27:11.:27:13.

going to be difficult for rapper Benitez. It is only the second

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defeat, but these are the only games that matter, when you are Real

:27:19.:27:23.

Madrid manager, it comes down to three or four games, games against

:27:24.:27:27.

Barcelona and the Champions' League semifinals. To lose and be so

:27:28.:27:33.

outplayed, it will be difficult for him now, it feels like he is the

:27:34.:27:38.

interim guy again, he will be there till the end of the season in an

:27:39.:27:43.

attempt to not cause to me problems changing manager mid-season. Then

:27:44.:27:48.

who would say look to in this circus? 'S Dan is always in the

:27:49.:27:57.

background, he doesn't seem to have the same urgency that quality land

:27:58.:28:08.

Luis Enrique had. -- Zidane. He is not doing a great job with the youth

:28:09.:28:14.

team, but it is a completely different job taking over this first

:28:15.:28:17.

team with superstars, he is there but I'm not sure he would want to

:28:18.:28:25.

take on a team mid-season... Not when he would rather start at the

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beginning of a season, that creates a problem for Madrid, who do they

:28:29.:28:33.

turn to if Zidane doesn't want it. I've got in front of me, all the

:28:34.:28:38.

Sunday papers, at least six them have got Louis van Gaal making a

:28:39.:28:44.

move for Cristiano Ronaldo. You heard from Spain, how much truth

:28:45.:28:54.

would you put in rooms? -- rumours? It feels like the Russian ship is

:28:55.:28:57.

coming to an end, he has won the Champions' League, beaten the

:28:58.:29:00.

scoring record -- Diva relationship. Maybe it is time for him and the

:29:01.:29:07.

club, if they feel they could get anywhere near the kind of money they

:29:08.:29:12.

paid for him back in 2009, that would be fantastic business, for him

:29:13.:29:17.

to score the goals he has scored and won the trophies he has won, so I

:29:18.:29:22.

think they would want it to happen. There is definitely interest from

:29:23.:29:28.

PSG and from Manchester United, my dad is, would he really want to go

:29:29.:29:35.

back and almost sour the memory? -- my doubt is. The Premier League is a

:29:36.:29:38.

hard league to play when you're coming towards the end of your

:29:39.:29:42.

career, although he will only be 31 at the end of the season, I'm

:29:43.:29:46.

wondering whether he will lean towards Paris rather than

:29:47.:29:47.

Manchester. Thank you. What would be the

:29:48.:29:58.

attraction for Manchester United in bringing him? You can understand

:29:59.:30:06.

when Louis Van Gaal comes up with headlines like this because he will

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not say that he does not want him. It merely puts pressure on one or

:30:11.:30:14.

two of his current players and sends a message to the board that they

:30:15.:30:20.

need to invest. I think it would be great to have Cristiano Ronaldo back

:30:21.:30:25.

in our country. Among one of the greatest players in the world, among

:30:26.:30:30.

the greatest of all time. Even at 31... If he came back. Sometimes

:30:31.:30:35.

these really intelligent players look at the career partly through

:30:36.:30:40.

the prism of international football and if his last chance of a World

:30:41.:30:44.

Cup will be in Russia at 33, does he want to have a gruelling Premier

:30:45.:30:48.

League season before hand? I am not sure he does. We ought to read the

:30:49.:30:54.

quote from Louis Van Gaal because it is slightly different to how the

:30:55.:31:00.

headline reads. In a sense he was asked whether he was looking at

:31:01.:31:03.

Cristiano Ronaldo to which he said, of course, we are looking at all

:31:04.:31:09.

players not just him but these are mostly on gettable. With Cristiano

:31:10.:31:14.

Ronaldo, let's wait and hope. This is a hypothetical question but let's

:31:15.:31:18.

say they got him for 60 million or Gareth Bale for 100, and they could

:31:19.:31:22.

only get one of them, which one should they go for? I think Gareth

:31:23.:31:28.

Bale. He has a lot more years than Cristiano Ronaldo in terms of his

:31:29.:31:34.

longevity. Gareth Bale for me, is a player that can integrate better

:31:35.:31:38.

with the team, he has played in the Premiership, Ronaldo has as well but

:31:39.:31:44.

he is a grand figure but almost becomes a world unto himself and I

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think that might be difficult in a Manchester United team that is still

:31:49.:31:51.

growing so I would go for Gareth Bale. The marketing department would

:31:52.:31:57.

want Cristiano Ronaldo because he would pay for that 50 or 60 million

:31:58.:32:02.

in the season, commercially. Gareth Bale would as well, but more in this

:32:03.:32:08.

country, maybe? If you are appealing to Latin America, the Far East...

:32:09.:32:15.

Gareth Bale for 100 or Cristiano Ronaldo? Cristiano Ronaldo, I am on

:32:16.:32:21.

a short-term contract, Louis Van Gaal, I want someone of his ability,

:32:22.:32:25.

still in peak performance and I want him now. He has been to Manchester,

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he will not need time to settle, he can go into the team and that team

:32:31.:32:36.

is defending well, he might be the missing ingredient that the manager

:32:37.:32:39.

needs. He will not be bothered when he gets to the end of the season if

:32:40.:32:43.

he has him in the team and he has won the championship and in two

:32:44.:32:46.

years' time he is off on the beach and celebrating. Is a lot of this

:32:47.:32:51.

wanting to bring him back based on the starter, he speaks fondly of Sir

:32:52.:32:55.

Alex Ferguson but he is not there any more. The first time he was

:32:56.:33:00.

there he grew with the team, they grew together but now he will come

:33:01.:33:05.

into a younger team as the main man and that is a completely different

:33:06.:33:10.

dynamic. As a manager you cannot make decisions on nostalgia, you

:33:11.:33:14.

must do it on professional reasons, is he good enough, at peak

:33:15.:33:18.

performance, he is at the moment, scoring goals of the national team.

:33:19.:33:23.

Scoring goals and Spain, why not take him now? 40 million less. I

:33:24.:33:30.

think it's a hypothetical question. It is, but it is on every back page.

:33:31.:33:36.

I think the quote, like you said, it is a little bit different to the

:33:37.:33:43.

actual headline. But yes... I think Gareth Bale is a lot more... I do

:33:44.:33:48.

not think there is a huge difference between Gareth Bale and Cristiano

:33:49.:33:51.

Ronaldo, to be honest, but I think Gareth Bale is probably more likely

:33:52.:33:56.

to come back to England than Ronaldo. He might not want to come

:33:57.:34:00.

back. I think there is talk about him going to the MLS or Paris, if

:34:01.:34:05.

you people trying to get him in the MLS earlier in the year. A new team

:34:06.:34:13.

being created in LA. If Gareth Bale... It would be good for him if

:34:14.:34:19.

now the moved on. One viewer has said, Ronaldo, wake up and smell the

:34:20.:34:24.

roses, you are going no where in Spain. Bring Gareth Bale with you.

:34:25.:34:27.

If I had read that out before I wouldn't have to take task that

:34:28.:34:32.

hypothetical question. Some key games were you? Germany next week.

:34:33.:34:41.

That is a friendly. Yes. And unfriendly friendly! But yes, a

:34:42.:34:45.

great game. Always difficult to play them but laying them after you beat

:34:46.:34:49.

them at the World Cup for third place, that's another story. A

:34:50.:34:53.

difficult game but I think one that we need because we play a lot of

:34:54.:34:58.

qualifiers that we are expected to win so we need to have these

:34:59.:35:04.

difficult challenges going into preparations for the European

:35:05.:35:08.

Championships. When you play Bosnia, this time next week, next Sunday...

:35:09.:35:15.

Is that a game that you would expect to win five, six... You do not take

:35:16.:35:20.

anything for granted, you still must perform but these are teams that

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England is expected to beat and in terms of a challenge, it's not... Is

:35:25.:35:30.

that enjoyable? Obviously scoring goals is enjoyable but... Is that

:35:31.:35:36.

what you really want at this stage when you are playing competitive

:35:37.:35:40.

game after competitive game, in the League as well, is it a bit of

:35:41.:35:45.

game after competitive game, in the anti-climax? I suppose for four word

:35:46.:35:47.

game after competitive game, in the it is nice. You see the goal hit the

:35:48.:35:51.

back of the net but it gets difficult in those games because you

:35:52.:35:55.

start... All habits start creeping and you don't do the things you

:35:56.:35:57.

admit the and when you get to the European

:35:58.:36:03.

Championships, you need enough challenge and experience

:36:04.:36:05.

Championships, you need enough right, we are ready to

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against many, the USA, but to be fair we have friendlies set

:36:12.:36:17.

against many, the USA, but to be us experiences as well as obviously

:36:18.:36:20.

playing qualifiers. Is club football more competitive than a lot of

:36:21.:36:23.

international is? Definitely, I would say so. It's a competitive

:36:24.:36:30.

league, Chelsea won it by two points. This year, last year, it was

:36:31.:36:36.

won by a goal. I think it's very competitive, week in, week out,

:36:37.:36:40.

tough games. At international level you play lesser nations. I want to

:36:41.:36:46.

come onto the game this afternoon, the London derby, Spurs and West

:36:47.:36:51.

Ham. Let's touch on the Arsenal defeat at West Bromwich. From an

:36:52.:36:53.

Arsenal friend of mine who text at me and said it was a very Arsenal

:36:54.:37:01.

like defeat. No leaders and to injuries? Injuries, and on goal...

:37:02.:37:07.

Comical penalty. In a season that they could win the league and there

:37:08.:37:13.

is a lot of pressure... There is a culture in the club, whether it's

:37:14.:37:20.

the leadership in the boardroom, you wonder who is completely in charge.

:37:21.:37:25.

To the dugout... Arsene Wenger runs the club but in terms of the

:37:26.:37:30.

individuals on the pitch, is Mikhail Arteta the right one in there? There

:37:31.:37:36.

is something going on with injuries, whether it is the pitch, the

:37:37.:37:40.

intensity of training, the challenging, I don't know. I do not

:37:41.:37:44.

go and watch training but something is going on. Maybe it is the way

:37:45.:37:50.

they play, quick passing, they almost invite challenges and they

:37:51.:37:54.

get caught. Jack Walsh was unlucky with Paddy McNair, go back to that.

:37:55.:37:59.

Something has to be sorted out in the medical side because when they

:38:00.:38:03.

are fit, they are formidable. So many comments on the injuries, every

:38:04.:38:08.

season, we will not win the Premier League with them in the squad. No

:38:09.:38:12.

depth in the squad, the bench offers little. Pete says it's not the lack

:38:13.:38:18.

of class, its injuries, no team suffers such bad luck. Arsene Wenger

:38:19.:38:23.

is a genius in getting them in the top four without spending a fortune

:38:24.:38:27.

but he's also a fool not to spend what's available. If you have

:38:28.:38:31.

consistent injuries as a coach or manager what would you do? We have

:38:32.:38:37.

had a lot of injuries at Newcastle, this season, last season, you look

:38:38.:38:41.

to different things, sports science, on the pitch, are they to firm or

:38:42.:38:46.

soft, are we overworking them, do we give them enough rest, are we

:38:47.:38:50.

working them hard enough? You look at every small detail and you need

:38:51.:38:55.

an answer. But there is a trend in the Premier League of a lot of

:38:56.:39:00.

injuries at a lot of clubs and that perhaps is the intensity of the

:39:01.:39:04.

games. The quality is not as good as it used to be but the intensity is

:39:05.:39:09.

getting bigger and stronger. Do you think there's an element of the

:39:10.:39:12.

medical sciences so good, they can get players back quicker which means

:39:13.:39:17.

they break down. I think you're right, plus the demand. If you are

:39:18.:39:22.

not carrying a huge squad you want to play someone back quicker and you

:39:23.:39:26.

don't want to do this, but you do and sometimes you force them back to

:39:27.:39:30.

early, he picks up an injury, he's out for another six months so you

:39:31.:39:34.

find the fine balance. Arsenal should not have the problem, they

:39:35.:39:40.

have a huge squad, they have ten or 11 injuries and that's an awful lot

:39:41.:39:43.

and that will affect whether they win the championship. An astonishing

:39:44.:39:48.

amount of injuries and it must be something to do with training

:39:49.:39:53.

loading. Chelsea, there is a period of culture, the loading, the amount

:39:54.:39:58.

of training you do is measured and it's deliberate. If five or ten

:39:59.:40:05.

players are getting injured with similar muscle injuries there must

:40:06.:40:07.

be a correlation between the loading. When you talk about loading

:40:08.:40:12.

are you talking to each individual player? The training load. For

:40:13.:40:18.

instance, a certain amount of sprinting in the session... That

:40:19.:40:21.

needs to be measured. For each player. It cannot just be, this is

:40:22.:40:27.

the session, this is what we do, there needs to be someone standing

:40:28.:40:31.

there and measuring. It gets measured at Newcastle, I have a

:40:32.:40:35.

sports scientist coming to me saying, he can't do any more, he's

:40:36.:40:42.

vulnerable. Sometimes managers ignore that and when they do that,

:40:43.:40:46.

the player breaks down, you have to trust these guys. Did you tell a

:40:47.:40:51.

player when he was in that zone because the reverse argument... If

:40:52.:40:54.

the player knows he is in the red zone or whatever, but can

:40:55.:40:59.

psychologically... It was my job to make the decision and I would say...

:41:00.:41:03.

Right, we will not do any more, and take the group in and the following

:41:04.:41:08.

day, we were allowed to train high intensity. You make that decision.

:41:09.:41:13.

That against six at White Hart Lane today. You can see it on Match of

:41:14.:41:20.

the Day later. Henry, do both of these sides have a chance of

:41:21.:41:24.

finishing in the top for? We have about 20 in the top four, the way

:41:25.:41:31.

things are building up. Spurs, look at them, Mauricio Pochettino and

:41:32.:41:37.

what he has done. You look at Kieron Dyer. In a couple of years, possibly

:41:38.:41:45.

with England, they are working incredibly hard. They all deliver

:41:46.:41:51.

for the manager. There will be a lot of focus on Delie alley this

:41:52.:41:59.

afternoon and Eric Dyer. They have got to understand this is the start

:42:00.:42:07.

of the journey. They are both intelligent, driven individuals. I

:42:08.:42:15.

think that Spurs can ride this wave and will help England. They have not

:42:16.:42:19.

lost since the first game of the season against Manchester United and

:42:20.:42:23.

what I like about the manager, he is going the radar, creeping along

:42:24.:42:27.

quietly file everyone has been making a fuss about Chelsea,

:42:28.:42:31.

Arsenal, Manchester United not playing well, he gets on with his

:42:32.:42:36.

business. All of a sudden, in a great position and I think they have

:42:37.:42:40.

a great opportunity in the top four, definitely. Given how West Ham have

:42:41.:42:46.

done this season, the away performance, they can easily add

:42:47.:42:52.

another scalp? Yes, I think so. But West Ham are a different team.

:42:53.:42:56.

Players have brought creativity, chances. Tottenham... They are team

:42:57.:43:03.

that played for the manager, high energy, they have not lost but for

:43:04.:43:09.

me, whispers, it's the same thing every year, they are doing great and

:43:10.:43:13.

it comes to the end of the year and they are out of the top force of the

:43:14.:43:16.

real test will be can they get in the top four, can they perform

:43:17.:43:21.

towards Ian of the season? It feels different quickly because they have

:43:22.:43:25.

gone under the reader, -- under the radar. A great manager, hard-core,

:43:26.:43:35.

English players who understand how the manager wants to play. They have

:43:36.:43:38.

bought into it. They had all the money and they spent it and they

:43:39.:43:42.

brought in so many different players, they didn't wait. We are

:43:43.:43:49.

just about out of time. Thank you so much to my guests. Spurs against

:43:50.:43:53.

West Ham this afternoon, kick off at 4pm. Goodbye for now.

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