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Welcome to the Premier League Show. This week we've travelled east

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to Kingston-upon-Hull - the 2017 UK City of Culture and home

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to Hull City AFC. The Tigers spent the first 104 years

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of their existence outside of English football's top-flight.

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In 2008, all that changed as they were promoted

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to the Premier League. Since then, it's been

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a rollercoaster both on and off the pitch with two relegations

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and two subsequent promotions back to the promised land.

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This week, we go behind the scenes as the club attempts

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to find its feet under new boss, Marco Silva.

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Also coming up, Adrian Chiles visits his beloved Baggies to talk

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management with Tony Pulis. We speak to Stoke's Peter Crouch

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as he closes in on a century of Premier League goals,

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Nathan Caton explores the perils of aocial media - and we catch up

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with all the big stories from the last seven days.

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Like Hull, West Brom established a reputation for bouncing

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between the top two divisions but since the turn of the decade

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they've established themselves as a Premier League fixture

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and currently sit in 8th place. We sent Adrian Chiles back

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to his spiritual home to get all nostalgic with Tony Pulis.

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Can we turn it on? Yeah, yeah. The success and appeal of these

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clubs to their supporters depends on the team, so the 15 men comprising

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the first team of West Bromwich Albion prepare for the match at the

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end of the week. , arm, harder! It was a fly on the wall documentary

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about West Brom in 1962 when Bobby Robson and Don Howe were playing

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here. That's Bobby, is it? The chat in the dressing room is usually

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about players, cars, money, things that have status. Nothing's changed

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then! CHUCKLES

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All of them have got shirts and ties on.

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What is your emotional response when you see your predecessor from more

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than half a century ago, when you see those clips on there? Everything

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has changed, Adrian. If you look at life in general, if you went back to

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the steelworks or the docks in that period, life has moved on

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dramatically. Over the last month there has been a

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deterioration in the play of certain individuals.

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The big thing that really stuck with me was the meeting that he had with

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the players and told everybody that he was making changes. Whereas

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today, I'd never walk in the dressing room and say this is the

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team at the reason why I'm doing it is because of this, that and the

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other. Could always try and make it a more personal thing. We've got a

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couple of pictures of you. CHUCKLES

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If someday when you are this age gives you a new car or money, how

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would you end up as a different player, manager or person? What do

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you suspect? If I go back to when I was 16 and jumping on the train in

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Newport and pulling out of Newport station, I was one of eight people

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in a small terraced house down near the docks. I wanted never to go back

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home. I wanted to make this my life and I promised I would do everything

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I possibly could to stay in this sport that I had loved ever since I

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can remember. The academy setup in England is

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absolutely fantastic. Better than most countries in the world. The

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problem we've got is that technically I think the players are

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better now than they ever have been but we've never had it right in

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respect of playing the games. It's OK being technically good enough but

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I am a manager and I have to win games so the players who come into

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my team have to be winners. They have to know how to win and learn

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how to win. Because if they don't you start losing and your job would

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be at risk. Isn't that taught to them? Not at all, the big problem we

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have is these kids are sent out at a young age and they should be sent

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out to learn that whether it is down at the bottom of the road playing in

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the third division or non-league football, that manager and those

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supporters, whether it's 500 or 600 people turn up, they want to see

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their team turn up on a Saturday. They don't want to see a kid just

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run around and be technically good, they want him to be technically good

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in leading that team to winning the. I think we miss

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that out of the time we ask them to give something back they don't know

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how to because all they have done is take.

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Once a week the Albion's directors meet to deliberate on the club's

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policy. Once a week? Archie, I'd like to hear your views of last

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Saturday's match for the benefit of the directors.

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I don't like board meetings. I think if I've got an owner, if it is the

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chairman, if I can have 20 minutes with him rather than being in an

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office with a committee of everybody asking questions, it suits me much

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better. I think you have to understand that they will sometimes

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cut across new in the way you believe things should work. You're

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almost managing up as much as you're managing down. And when things are

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going badly it must feel like you are fighting absolutely everybody?

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LAUGHTER You will always face the supporters

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in some shape or form. Every week you are in front of the shareholders

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and if they don't like what they are seeing they let you know. I accept

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that is part of it and you have to deal with it. Frank Skinner and I

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sit right behind you. You are the one that shouts at me all of the

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time! Frank shouts at you sometimes. CHUCKLES

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I'd been encouraged from a very, very young age to learn my trade,

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not just playing but coaching and listening to people. The systems you

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have learned, have they set you in good stead for what you play now?

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Well, we had a wonderful set up in England. I think it was better than

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anywhere in the world where we used to have a week with senior coaches

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coming along and learning from Don Howe, Bobby Robson, Dave Sexton, I

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haven't moved to far-away from the basics that I learned at that time.

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The basics being what? Setting your team are properly, making sure you

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play to the strengths you have got, not trying to do anything you can't

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achieve, football is a simple game and the important thing as a manager

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is trying to get the best out of the group of players you have got, not

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trying to justify what maybe other people want from that football team.

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But actually accepting what they are and what they are about and getting

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the best you can out of them. Is it important for you to be liked

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by the players? There will be at least half of the squad who hate you

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because you are not picking them. The most important thing is to be

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honest and straight with them. If you try and be clever eventually you

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will spin round and they will catch you out. It's difficult because you

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know it will hurt their feelings but you have to do it, that's your job.

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My thoughts have always been, be as straight to them as you possibly can

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whether they like it or not and wonder if they walk away they will

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say I didn't like him but he was a straight fellow and a straight

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hitter. Tony Pulis has this morning been

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confirmed as West Brom's new head coach. It's the right club at the

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right time, I've got a decent record of helping places turnround.

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Being marked down as the defending I wrote, ten behind the ball, you

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don't need possession and all that, do you get fed up of all that? That

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is one thing I don't give a dam about, we can sit down and have a

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drink together and you don't really know me and I don't really know you

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and the supporters don't know really what I'm like. I have got a plan, it

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has been a short-term plan, and it was to shake the dressing room up a

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little bit and get rid of quite a few players which we have managed to

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do and bring a little bit more quality in as we go along. Over the

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next year, two years, is to have good windows and sign players. Maybe

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not the numbers this club has signed before but a little bit more

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quality. I believe that we've got some exceptional young players at

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the football club. The aim is to bring real top-quality players in

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like Evans, good professionals like Fletcher, you know, people of that

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ilk. And then hopefully over the next year or two the younger players

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will learn from those and eventually take those players' places come and

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bring those kids who are local lads in through the team and have a real

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good team and a good structure in respect of age. Because that's

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important. Is possible to be adventurous and defend corners,

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effectively? Is that really possible?

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LAUGHTER Yes!

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LAUGHTER Were you watching this? I wasn't

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quite born then! Do you think looking at this club, you never own

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a club, you just look after it for the next generation? The thing I've

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always try to do and hopefully I've done it at most of the clubs I've

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been at, I always want to leave the club better than when I came in. You

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are just a custodian of it really. The most important thing is when I

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leave people can say he didn't do a bad job.

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I think we could let those two chat for hours.

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I'm here in leafy Cottingham, just outside of Hull,

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where Hull City's first team train and today they've

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allowed us in to watch. At the end of last season,

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the Tigers won the Championship Play-Off Final and there

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was jubilation as they returned to the Premier League.

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But things soon turned sour with the departure of manager

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Steve Bruce in the summer citing a lack of transfer investment

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from the club's owners. The season so far has been a battle.

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The opening day is normally one full of optimism but it's in short supply

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in Hull, no new signings, no permanent manager, surely the most

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scrambling Bulldogs ever to a top-flight season.

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# You hold me down in the best way # COMMENTATOR: A famous win for Hull

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City. Stunning result this, what a story they are. What more does he

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have to do to get the job? Hopefully it will continue.

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Sanchez. The hole recovery is a short lived one. What an absolute

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screamer. -- the Hull. Mick Phelan is now the head coach on a full-time

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basis. COMMENTATOR: They are punished yet

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again. We have to realise we are in the big league. If you sell your

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house and the roof is leaking you fix it. The roof is leaking, Assem

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Allam. Hull City began in 2016 dreaming of a return to the Premier

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League and they end the year fearing an all too speedy return to be

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Championship. Mike Phelan has been sacked as the

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head coach of Hull. Hull City have appointed Marco Silva

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as their new manager. COMMENTATOR: Hull City have the

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equaliser through Hernandez. What a shot! Maybe, just maybe the great

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escape is on. # You'll keep on saying it's all

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right # Thank you for doing this.

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Marco, welcome to the Premier League Show.

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Everybody looks happy and relaxed this morning. What was the mood like

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when you arrived at the club? We have had a difficult two months and

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in the last couple of weeks we have won two games, the players are more

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happy and the atmosphere is different and that's important for

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the work. Incredible start. You must think you can save this club. It is

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our job to change some things, we don't have a lot of time, only six

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training sessions but we try to pass on the most important thing for the

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players step-by-step and they understand. They are starting to

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understand and believe more and it's important in this situation. It's

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impossible to change everything in one week, two weeks, one month, but

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we will try and do it step-by-step and pay attention to the most

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important things. You have had success in Europe and when you came

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here people didn't know as much about you, perhaps, even though you

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have had that success. Do you feel extra pressure or is it good coming

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under the radar because you are almost an unknown quantity? The

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pressure is always with me. When I started 34 years old as a football

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coach the pressure always stays with me. Day by day, with my players, in

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training, I like to work with pressure. It's not a problem. You

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have a big job this week, how do you stop a team like Chelsea? Until now

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they did a fantastic season. Very good squad, and a very good coach

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also. It's a big challenge for us. We will be competitive, sure. We

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will believe in our team and see what happens on Sunday. It's the

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most important because it's the next, not because it is Chelsea,

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it's the next game for us and so it's the most important. I can see

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your influence has already spread into the canteen because I asked the

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chef what the menu was today and he's joking but it is piri piri

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because of the gaffer. He's joking! No, you've got a piri piri checking

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waiting in there for you. Good luck and enjoy your lunch.

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Stoke City's Peter Crouch is chasing a record -

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his header against Sunderland last weekend was his 99th

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Premier League goal. Can he make it a century against

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Manchester United this Saturday? He's been talking to Pat Murphy.

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Peter Crouch gets the 50th goal of his career...

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Peter Crouch's 99th Premier League goal.

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When you get your 100th will you resurrect the robot? People say if

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you get the 100th you have to do it. I am sure I'll dust it off at some

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stage. We can take that as a yes? Maybe! What was the best goal? The

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goal for Tottenham, that was an amazing feeling. Because of the

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sheer technique of the goal. What a feeling? Against Bolton on New

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Year's Day for Liverpool. And there has been obviously the goal for

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Stoke against Man City, which was probably the best goal I scored. Oh,

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what a goal! Tell me about that card that you give out to people - you

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saw it on social media about being six foot seven. People ask me how

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the weather is up there. Do I play basketball? I had a couple of cards

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fitted to give out when these questions are arise. What do say

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they? Yes I am six foot seven. I don't play basketball and I am glad

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we had this conversation. I think people take it all seriously. It is

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nice to engage with the fans. It is a good bit of fun!

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And you can see more of that interview on Football Focus

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on Saturday at 12pm on BBC One. Good luck, Crouchy!

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There was a time when the only interaction fans had with players

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was an autograph after the game but things have moved

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on in the digital age - and not necessarily for the better -

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We sent Nathan Caton to delve into the murky

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world of social media. MUSIC Isn't social media great?

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There are so many things you can do! Talk to your friends, meet new

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people, see if they are still single and put on weight... No, no, I don't

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do that! I just know people who do! For footballers, one great thing

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about social media is they get to connect to the fans off the pitch.

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We get to learn more about them. For example, from social media we have

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learnted that Huth is not just a Premier League champion but the

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champion of banter. Let's all welcome Jon to twitter and

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congratulate him on learning to write!

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What would you do if he committed a crime? Make him watch a West Brom

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game? Yeah, that's right Wayne Rooney

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tweeted himself offering a fight! Madness! On second thoughts, maybe

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not a bad idea. We all know what happened when he tried fighting

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someone else! Social media gives us an insight into who the players are.

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Including those who tweet normal stuff - such as Victor Wanyama. Some

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use it to vent their frustration, such as Diego Costa. If I was 20 and

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had a face of a 58-year-old I would be constantly angry too. The

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angriest has to be Joey Barton. Ouch! I don't think he will play for

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Burnley any time soon! Speaking of Burnley, how about this?

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It probably wasn't his fault. It was probably the people who look after

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his profile. A lot don't run them on twitter. If they do, they have

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someone telling them what to say. Isn't that right?

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There have been some hiccups but some have been landed in hot water.

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Make sure you watch everything precisely, even you are one of the

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best players on the planet... You can't say that, man! Your name

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will go from the back of your shirt to the top of a register! So I guess

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what I am trying to say is social media is a great tool, but has to be

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used correctly. What you put out there stays out there. And you

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cannot get it back, no matter how it might be... Like all these... Me!

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Hey, why is my picture there? Thank you. Watching Nathan there on

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social media and footballers finding themselves in sticky situations.

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Have you found yourself doing that on social media? I've not had

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anything that's that bad really. During the summer when we only had a

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few players I tweeted a picture of the Hull City squad photo there and

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were only nine of us in it. Because it was retweeted by a number of

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papers and things like that, our coach said, you lot are causing a

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story. It was only a joke that people picked up and saw it as... If

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you don't write "this is a joke! " I think a lot of our fans saw it in

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good light and it made them smile at a tough time for the club.

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We had the pleasure of speaking to the new coach. Did you know much

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about him before he came to the club? He is obviously only a young

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manager. He's recently only stepped out of playing the game, really. It

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is a fresh approach rather than maybe getting a manager who has been

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somewhere, got someone, failed and got sacked and it is bold by the

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chairman and touch wood, it is going good so far. What you want with a

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new manager in your position is that immediate bounce. He seems to have

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had that impact on the pitch. A great result at the weekend. Has the

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mood lifted? It has. It seems that the manager has come in. He could

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have easily have taken a step back and waited to see, OK give it two

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weeks, see what they can do, but from day one he was in the changing

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room, physically dragging players across the pitch, I want you here

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and you there. I think he's done his homework. I think he's watched all

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the games on tape. He was talking about the last time we played

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Bournemouth. This is what we done. You playing Chelsea as the second

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league match, that away, that is going to be tough. Of course. The

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game at the weekend was massive due to the fact we are playing Chelsea.

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After that there is Liverpool... Welcome. They don't come much

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tougher than that. What about the relationship between the fans and

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the owners here? It appears to have been through a troubled time. How

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does that affect you as players? I k not say it affects us. When you come

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to the Swansea game and the FA Cup, there was a miniboycott, we only had

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6,000 fans. The atmosphere was so dull. I cannot imagine for the

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players on the pitch what it was like. The fans, firsts and foremost,

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are with the players. Usually they are with us players.

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Shall we look inside and see where all the prematch magic happens. Back

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into the warm. That is what I meant! Shall we go and get warm. So, what

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is this room here then? This is our warm-up room. Usually, I say

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warm-up, usually lads are doing kick ups or something. Someone will

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probably kick a ball at your head or something like that, unfortunately.

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Has every ground you go to got a space like this? Most of the newer

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ones do. When you go to the away changing room, there is usually

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nothing. You usually do a stretch in the shower or something like that.

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It is interesting. You have to find whatever space you can. The club

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must have been delighted there was a stock of these tiles? I think they

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got a detail after -- discount after the 80s. Has the atmosphere in here

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changed? Did row have some sympathy for the predicament here? When Steve

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Bruce had some problems, Mike said he wanted to take us forward. That

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was a bold statement. We had 13 fit players and maybe no hope from the

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outside, but he took the job. Started off OK. We could not sustain

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it. As somebody who has been in the game for a long time now, been

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around a little bit and seen other set ups, who are the other voices we

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would hear here on match day? Daws, the captain. He is influential. He

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speaks to whoever it need be. There are a few in here who have something

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to say. You need the leaders right now? Whatever happens with the

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management, the board. You have to go out there and get the result. It

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will be an interesting few months? Hopefully happy. Shall we see what

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else has been going on in the last seven days?

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Schlupp is watching today. You don't feel it will be long before he

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breaks into the side. Michael Keane... ... Alli scopes it

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back to him. What a week for him! Who's the daddy? I am a new dad. A

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good feeling. What a great way to finish the week off! There'd not be

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a louder ovation today in memory of Graham Taylor.

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And it is in from Giroud. Ramsey tries to shoot. Sanchez does.

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Arsenal lead by 4-0. Was Sanchez OK when he came off?

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Completely OK, he wanted to stay on. Carroll on the far side... Oh, that

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is tremendous! Lovely! Extremely important three points. Under the

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circumstances, in a very difficult week. So, brilliant! Costa left at

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home after a row. He does not strike me as the kind of person who is

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bothered by what people think. Alonso... Deflected 2-0 and Pedro

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has surely sealed it for Chelsea... Using it to solve all the problems.

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Never doing a press Conference, but I repeat, if there are other

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problems. He beats Bravo and Everton have a

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three-goal lead. And Lookman scored. 4-0.

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I don't think football days get better than that, do they? No. I

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don't think they ever will. Penalty to Liverpool! Pogba's

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handball. Milner puts Liverpool in front. Ibrahimovic... In the net!

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Ibrahimovic for Manchester United. Before we go, let's take a quick

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look at the weekend's fixtures. Saturday begins with bottom club

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Swansea City visiting Liverpool in the early kick-off.

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There are five 3pm kick-offs including

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Crystal Palace against Everton and Manchester United's

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trip to Stoke. Faltering Manchester City

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host in-form Tottenham in the evening game.

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There are three games on Sunday with Hull's trip to league leader's

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Chelsea rounding off the weekend. Best of luck against Chelsea. Which

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will you wear? I think this purple one. Lovely! Thank you. And we're

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off for a couple of weeks. If you miss anything on the show you can

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catch up with the i player. Thank you to everybody at Hull. You have

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made us feel very welcome. Have a good night. Goodbye.

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