11/01/2016 BBC Wales Today

Welcome, our top story is head ahead in the UK.

First Minister Carwyn Jones and UKIP leader Nigel Farage met tonight

in a head-to-head debate in Cardiff Bay on the UK's future

The two men clashed over jobs and the economy,

including the fate of the steel industry.

First Minister Carwyn Jones and UKIP leader Nigel Farage met tonight

in a head-to-head debate in Cardiff Bay on the UK's future

The two men clashed over jobs and the economy,

including the fate of the steel industry.

Carwyn Jones said leaving the EU would have "devastating

consequences" for Wales, Mr Farage claimed membership

of the EU had left the first minister "impotent".

Our political editor Nick Servini was there.

If the EU referendum campaign is going to be anything like this it

will be a lively affair. Within minutes of Carolyn Jones and Nigel

Farage were training -- trading insults. Trading was the dominant

theme throughout. With the steel industry facing such problems there

was no surprise it quickly came to the fore. Both accused each other of

not doing anything for the industry. He had been lobbying the UK

Government four years to reduce problems for companies like Qatar.

He said he would do it and they have not done it. I met with them last

month and they said it was an obstacle. -- Tata. What you or

Westminster should have an able to do and what you would have wanted to

be able to do it was to stop the dumping of that steel, to get the

last proper steel plant in Wales the chance of continuing. You didn't do

it not because you didn't want to but you have not got the power to do

it because you have given that a week to Brussels. The fundamental

messages where Herod repeatedly in the hour-long debate. For Carwyn

Jones it was all about why the UK would take the risk of leaving. I do

not want Britain or Wales to surrender our lease in the world. We

had an important country being an important role in Europe. We want to

be on the pitch. Not in the crowd shouting. Shipping the whole of

Europe in an uncertain model. The message was for the whole of Wales

and Europe to take control of its own affairs and its own borders. I

believe not only would we be better making our own laws in our own

countries but I know that in a genuine democracy you are able

through the ballot box to get rid of bad law. You cannot do that as a

member of this European Union. I say stand up British people, take back

our birthright and regain our democracy. What was the reaction

among the audience at the event organised IP think tank the

Institute of Welsh affairs? We might have expected more passion around

about immigration and the asylum question but what we had fashioned

questions about from the audience was about jobs, jobs in factories.

The borders in Europe where causing more difficulty for people in Wales

to find a job in Europe. It is the question of the referendum and Noble

depends on whether David Cameron will hold the full.

Our political editor, Nick Servini joins me now,

Nick, quite a passionate debate tonight?

We learned Nigel Farage is a very difficult operator on the subject of

UDP and with Grohl. It was a tough night for the First Minister. Nigel

Farage started to boss the proceedings. Very different

approaches for the two men. A bread and butter approach from the First

Minister pointing to the talks he has with attentional inward

investors in Wales saying they want to stay in the EU and them by

contrast the rhetorical flourishes of Nigel Farage pointing out

examples of largess, incompetency on the part of the European Union and

his fundamental point of scaremongering when it comes to jobs

and the prospect of leaving. Always in these cases both sides claim

victory, it was the case again tonight. Ukip said they were

ecstatic and Labour saying it was a victory on points.

With the state of the steel industry featuring heavily in the debate

tonight, let's stay with that for a moment, because the price

It's a good barometer of the health of the steel industry

Scrap steel is only reaching half the price it was fetching this time

last year, of great concern because of the thousands of jobs

Our Economics Correspondent, Sarah Dickins has the story.

In Swansea docks, scrap metal is being prepared for export

and usually to the neighbouring steelworks at Porttalbot.

It notably buys scrap steel from this site to add

to the steel it makes from raw materials.

None has been ordered for the first three months of this year.

Around the world, the demand for scrap steel fell

We have seen cheap Chinese still coming in from China

In the UK particularly, they have suffered as a result

it's a double whammy, if you like, with cheap Chinese products

as well as the electricity tariffs.

That has dampened the price of steel scrap down to virtually all-time

lows when you take into account annual inflation, where it was.

Scrap cars were fetching ?85 per tonne a year ago.

Metalis employs 15 people here, handling up to 8,000 tonnes a month.

The scrap's graded for different customers.

These bundles will be exported to India.

Other loads are for Spain and Turkey.

This steel to my right here is electrical switch gear

We send that for fragmentation, which separates the copper

This pile to my left-hand side, this what we're loading up

for steel, it's what we call one and two mixed, we send that to Spain

The scrap sector employs 1,500 people in Wales,

and impacts many different parts of the economy.

When economies around the world are feeling strong,

confident and optimistic about the future, scrap like this

Everybody wants it because it goes into so many commodities.

The fact it is so low, the price, now and that there

isn't demand across the world suggests we have bumpy months ahead.

Many economic forecasters say growth around the world will slow further

as the year progresses, hitting scrap and the steel

South Wales particularly was the hub of the steel-making sector

and relied upon steel scrap as a vital raw material

within the steel-making chain so scrap matters absolutely.

It is an essential raw material in the manufacturing process.

And steel scrap is not the only commodity where prices

The same is happening with oil, copper and iron ore,

all indicators that economies around the world are weakening.

A pre-inquest hearing into the death of a soldier from Llangollen

at Deepcut Barracks in Surrey has heard how she may have been

"manipulated...by those higher up the chain of command

18-year-old Private Cheryl James was found with a bullet wound

The coroner must now decide on whether to consider new evidence

The MOD said it was inappropriate to suggest widening the scope

A 27-year-old woman has been arrested on suspicion of murder,

after the body of a man was found in a house in Cardiff.

Police were called to an address in Llanrumney Avenue at around 4:30

yesterday morning following reports of a house fire.

The man has not yet been formally identified

A man who failed to stop after his motorbike hit

a 10-year-old boy in Mountain Ash has been jailed for 15 months.

Matthew Llewellyn pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice

and leaving the scene of the accident.

Tye Hawkins suffered life changing injuries as a result of the accident

Tye suffered a serious brain injury and he is fortunately has had

the support of his family and they are very grateful

for the support they received from the community and friends

in the local area but it is fair to say that there will be some

significant challenges ahead for Tye and it might not be until his late

teens before the degree of the brain injury becomes clear.

An inquest into the death of a six-year-old girl who choked

on a grape in Gwynedd, has heard how poor ambulance

response times will inevitably lead to deaths.

Jasmine Lapsley, from Liverpool, was on holiday with her family

in Morfa Nefyn when she collapsed last August.

An expert witness told the inquest that the 25 minutes response time

of the ambulance was poor, even for a rural location.

69 road accidents have been reported to North Wales Police today,

following an early morning drop in temperature.

Denbighshire and Flintshire Coucils have both said said they didn't grit

roads until this morning because overnight forecasts

Motorists are being warned to take extra care as the cold

Brecon Beacon National Park Authority has refused to comment

further on its proposals to change visitor centres and cut eight jobs.

The Park says an internal consultation is looking

at the proposals to save more than ?200,000 as a result

One former park authority member says some feel the authority could

We know that in this area every visitor who visits the Centre brings

about ?5 into the local economy which is huge. I really do think it

is very easy for them to hit the soft targets, tourist information

centres, the Mountain Centre and other areas when really perhaps they

should be looking at their big spending areas such as their

planning department. Football, and after postponing

their 3rd Round FA Cup match because of a water logged pitch,

Newport County will welcome Blackburn Rovers to

Rodney Parade next Monday. If they beat Blackburn,

Newport will travel to face Oxford knocked Swansea City out

of the competition yesterday. It's getting colder,

with snow in tonight's That's right, good evening. Snow and

showers in some places, the snow on higher ground, frost and icy patches

as well. Showers and wind increasing, becoming strong in the

north and west with those temperatures inland around two or

three Celsius. Tomorrow will be a windy day Andy Calder a with a wink

and big feature, to gales in the Northwest. The south-west dry in the

morning otherwise more rain and showers, wintry on higher ground. If

you are travelling across the rest of the UK tomorrow watch out for icy

hutches in the morning. It will be areas of showers and rain

circulating around the needy of low pressure, some heavy showers, sleet

and snow in places, most of the snow over high ground. Some saw to lower

levels in eastern Scotland. Temperatures only six Celsius in

Belfast, much Calder in the wind. That goes 4-wheel tomorrow

afternoon, more showers wintry on higher ground. Strong to gale force

winds as well will make it feel very cold. Should be drier and brighter

in Pembrokeshire. Tomorrow night the wind and showers will ease, becoming

dry and fairly clear. The widespread frost and also some icy patches.

Wednesday will start cold and icy, bright for the time then more

showers will spread across the country, some heavy and prolonged.

Some sleet and snow, most snow on higher ground but the few flakes to

lower levels as well. Stein cold for the rest of the week and into the

weekend. Sunshine and further showers, wintry and places, some

frost and icy