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This is BBC World News Today. A diplomatic deal to end the violence

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in Ukraine and a call on pro-Russian protesters to end their occupation

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of government buildings. The agreement comes after more violence

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but will the diplomacy make a difference on the ground? The USA

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says was a good day 's work. Russia the Ukrainians need to find their

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own solution. Hopes are fading for the school children still missing in

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the South Korean ferry disaster. 280 people are still missing. The

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captain of the sunken ship is under investigation. Also coming up. He's

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77 and he's had a stroke but he's still seeking re-election as

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President of Algeria. Why are opposition parties calling for a

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boycott? And as Christians get ready to celebrate one of their most

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important festivals, Easter, we look at a global test of opinion across

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several countries about attitudes towards religion.

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Hello and welcome. High-level talks in Geneva aimed at ending the crisis

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in Ukraine have concluded with what looks like a breakthough. Before the

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talks got under way, three Russian separatists were killed after the

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attempted to storm a military base in eastern Ukraine. We'll have more

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on that in a moment. But first, it was the Russian Foreign Minister

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Sergei Lavrov who announced that inernational talks in Geneva had

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resulted in a deal on calming tensions as Rob Watson reports.

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For a meeting from which so little had been expected, signs of

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progress, an upbeat Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said all

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sides had agreed to take steps to calm tensions including removing

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militants from buildings and to address their political differences.

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What is the most important for us is everybody, all the parties agree

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that this is the crisis that needs to be regulated by Ukrainians

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themselves. Immediate cessation of conflicts. His US counterpart John

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Kerry also talked a good work achieving good faith but said now it

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was a question of turning words into action, warning of further sanctions

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on Moscow if they went. This day 's work is produced principles and

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commitments and it has produced words on paper. And we are the first

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to understand and to agree that words on paper will only mean what

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the actions are taken as a result of those words produce. Earlier, in a

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phone in programme on Russian television, President Putin blamed

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the authorities in Kiev for all the tension in trouble in eastern

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Ukraine. He insisted there were no Russian forces on the ground at

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again, held out the possibility there could be in the future.

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TRANSLATION: As a reminder, the Federation Council of Russia, has

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the right to use military force in Ukraine. I very much hope we will

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not have to exercise this right and with political and diplomatic means,

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we will resolve the acute problems in Ukraine today. On Wednesday

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night, a reminder of the kind of flash points that could lead to an

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even wider crisis. A National Guard base in southern Ukraine came under

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attack from pro-Russian militants. The assault failed, but left three

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of the pro-Russian is dead. And more than a dozen injured. All further

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evidence of Kiev's struggle to maintain control of its territory

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without provoking unwanted confrontation. Of course, not all

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eastern Ukraine is in the grip of a pro-Russian insurgency. These

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protesters were demonstrating for what they called a united country.

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How to keep Ukraine United in a way that satisfies all of its citizens,

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its Russian neighbour and Europe and the USA, remains the prize so far

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out of reach. Sir Tony Brenton is a former British Ambassador to Russia.

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He joins me from our studio in Cambridge. People are talking about

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a diplomatic solution to the crisis. Is this it? Well, this is a very big

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first step, very good news, and, given the unpromising background to

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it, both sides looked into the abyss, the Russians never really

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wanted to invade Ukraine, but with the deaths yesterday, it is harder

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to evade. The Westerners were worried about a Russian

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dismemberment of Ukraine, both sides are found in agreement which enables

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them to step back. That's the good news. A lot depends on the

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implementation but my feeling is both sides, having seen how bad

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things could have got, are genuine about carrying this link through

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now. What other tangible signs we can see this resolution being

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occupied on ground? Occupied buildings being given up? If you

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read a statement, there are explicit requirements, the disbandment of

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illegal groups, the abandonment of illegally occupied buildings,

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monitors being brought in, so things should happen quite quickly and that

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will be an early test of how genuine both sides are on delivering on the

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agreement. What about pro-Russian protesters in Ukraine? Will they do

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what Moscow tells them to do or will they do their own thing? I think

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there will be some grumbling, but since it was quite a lot of Moscow

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activity behind-the-scenes in getting them out, to protest, I hope

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they will quickly withdraw. Has Russia got what it wants? It never

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had any designs on eastern Ukraine but got Crimea. Yes, Crimea is a

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problem left over for another time. The big thing Russia has got in the

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statement is a guarantee of an open constitutional process, and what

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they see as guarantees of autonomy for regional populations which

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includes the Russian population. There is a shift in tone of not

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talking so explicitly about autonomy for the Russian speaking population

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in eastern Ukraine. Much more just saying their rights should be

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acknowledged more firmly. As I understand it, behind-the-scenes,

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Ukrainian representatives, John Kerry said he spoke to the Prime

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Minister of Ukraine, and there were assurances on autonomy for the

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Russian population and all populations in Ukraine. It's very

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clear. What would you say the balance of power between Russia and

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the West is after this agreement today and the whole crisis over

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Ukraine? It's an interesting moment. What has become very clear is it

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impossible for the West simply to take Ukraine in the direction it

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wants to go. The Russian hand and involvement remains very strong. And

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that will have to be taken into consideration as Ukraine looks at

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its future economic and political orientation. And therefore, the West

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will have to take Russia a lot more seriously going forward. Thank you

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very much indeed for sharing your insights with us. South Korea's

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coastguard says it's investigating every detail of the final hours of a

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ferry which sank with hundreds of schoolchildren on board. 179 people

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have been rescued but almost 300 are missing. And the country's President

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says time is running out to find more survivors. There are

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unconfirmed reports that the crew delayed giving orders to abandon the

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ship and launch the lifeboats. Divers are waiting to search South

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Korea's stricken ferry but they can't get in. Held back by strong

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currents today, this was all the rescue teams could do.

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And in case there was anyone alive to hear them, they brought in oxygen

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to pump inside the hull. Parents believe their children may be

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clinging on in air pockets. Their disappointment at not finding them

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turning on the rescuers themselves. "Children are dying," they shouted.

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"Why aren't you doing something?" Out there is a disaster that no one

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can get to. Perhaps hundreds of people, most of them children,

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trapped inside a sunken ship. Surrounded by rescue boats, but cut

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off from them by these terrible conditions. This man came here last

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night to find his 67-year-old mother on her way to a cycling holiday with

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friends. It takes him a while to find her photograph. She hates

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having their picture taken, he says. TRANSLATION: Everyone wishes their

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relatives would survive this accident. But right now, I don't

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have the energy to get angry. I want to cry but I can't. I have no one to

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talk to. I don't want to worry other relatives so I have decided to face

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this alone with my brother. This video, apparently shot from inside

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the ferry, shows how passengers struggled to stand up in the listing

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ship. The captain hid his face of the police station today feeling the

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pressure of getting out alive. TRANSLATION: I am really sorry. I am

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deeply ashamed. I cannot put it into words.

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For some of those here, the wait is over already. This mother, reunited

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with her child too late. But grief is felt across the country. Most of

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those on board the ferry were pupils of this high school outside Seoul.

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The names of those still missing from the registers far outweighing

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the numbers found. And then there are stories like this

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one. Six years old and pulled from the wreckage yesterday. A chocolate

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bar to mark the end of her ordeal. Stories like hers are getting rarer

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here. But it's stories like hers which give the families still

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waiting hope. Now a look at some of the day's

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other news. The parents of some of the 100-plus schoolgirls abducted by

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suspected Islamic militants in Nigeria, have begun searching local

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forests for them. There's been confusion over how many of the girls

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are still being held by their kidnappers. The governor of Borno

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state originally said nearly all of them had escaped. But it now seems

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more than 100 are still unaccounted for. The murder trial of the

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Paralympic sprinter Oscar Pistorius has been adjourned for just over a

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fortnight. He's accused of deliberately shooting his girlfriend

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Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine's Day last year. The judge interrupted

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this morning's hearing to warn those watching a televised feed of the

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trial outside that they could be heard cheering and shouting inside

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the court. There's been a lukewarm reception for shares in Weibo, the

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Chinese version of Twitter, which has been floated on the Nasdaq stock

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exchange in New York. It's sold 16.8 million shares, raising $286 million

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so far, well below the $340 million it was aiming for. Weibo is not

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currently making a profit and the number of active users has fallen

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since China's censors strengthened their control of online discussions

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last year. Scientists in the United Sates say they've discovered the

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most Earth-like planet yet found in another solar system. It's called

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Kepler-186-F and NASA have released these artist impressions of what it

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might look like close up. It's almost the same size as Earth, and

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temperatures on it are mild enough to allow surface water. Prosecutors

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in New York are outlining their case against the radical Muslim cleric,

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Abu Hamza. The Egyptian-born preacher, who was extradited from

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Britain to the US in 2012, denies all 11 terrorism charges against

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him. The charges he faces include conspiring in a 1998 kidnapping of

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tourists in Yemen that resulted in the deaths of three Britons and an

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Australian. Abu Hamza rose to notoriety in the UK for preaching

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violent messages at Finsbury Park mosque in London after the 9/11

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attacks. We are now joined by our correspondent Barbara Plett-Usher

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who's outside the court in New York where the hearing is taking place.

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Barbara, tell us what the prosecution had been saying in this

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court hearing today. The prosecution made its opening statement basically

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saying that Abu Hamza had used his influence at the Finsbury Park

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mosque to aid terrorism and terrorism training. He said he used

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religion as a cover to hide in plain sight and then went through a fairly

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detailed explanation of the case against Abu Hamza, saying for

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example, he sent two men in 1999 to Oregon to set up a terrorist

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training camp, assisted them in Yemen in 1988 by giving them a

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satellite telephone and he talks about the witnesses he was going to

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call. The defence attorney also gave his opening statement saying Abu

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Hamza had not participated in any of these acts and presenting in

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basically other decent man who had been misunderstood. He told the

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Journal of the the context and a lot of what they were going to hear in

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the trial had actually happened between -- before 911 when the world

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was viewed differently. When he went to Bosnia and Afghanistan, to some

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extent, he had been on the same side as the West at that point, and he

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said British intelligence in London had repeatedly approached him to try

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to keep situations that non-violent. And under control. So, he said to

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the jurors also that they would hear some very harsh things, that Abu

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Hamza has said in his speeches which would be played in the trial, but he

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-- they must member these are expressions of views and not crimes.

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Reminders about Abu Hamza because he had been hitting the headlines are

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graded in the UK, where he was at this very prominent mosque in north

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London. He fought in Afghanistan, where he suffered injuries.

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That is right. He was radicalised during the Afghan war against the

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Soviets. He also went to Bosnia to aid the Muslims there, and then he

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rose to prominence in the 1990s at the Finsbury Park Mosque in London

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where he had these very fiery speeches. MI5 did start watching him

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after 1997 but they never really took him that seriously at first.

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They thought he was sort of a noisy troublemaker. Eventually, though,

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they did invite him and jail him for inciting racial hatred and calling

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for murders in his very fiery speeches. Right around that time,

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the Americans decided he was also a factor in global jihad, as they

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called it, and they called for him to be extradited to New York. That

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was delayed for many years, partly because he was serving jail time in

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Britain, and partly because he and other terrorist suspects really

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fought extradition. He was brought here in 2012 and the trial has

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started now. Thank you. A presidential election is taking

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place in Algeria, with the veteran incumbent President Abdelaziz

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Bouteflika widely expected to win a fourth term in office. Mr

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Bouteflika, who suffered a stroke last year and rarely appears in

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public, cast his vote in a wheelchair. A coalition of Islamist

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and secular opposition parties have called for a boycott, saying the

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election will be a sham and that Mr Bouteflika is too ill to govern.

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With me is Mohamed Ben-Madani. He's editor and founder of the Maghreb

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Review, covering North Africa and the Middle East. Nice to meet you.

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He is going to win, isn't he? He is going to win. Everyone expected him

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to win. But his main principal challenger said that even if he

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loses, he will not accept the result. So if he wins, there will be

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chaos. It is hard to see how it will end. You are talking about the main

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opposition candidate, Ali Benflis. I'm talking about resident macro, if

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he wins. Why are the opposition calling for a boycott? The

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opposition organised a protest last Friday with 40,000 to protest

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against the election. They are protesting because Abdelaziz

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Bouteflika has not fulfilled his promise -- obligations. What

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obligations? Employment, jobs, poverty. It is a very rich country

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in natural resources, Algeria, but that does not create many jobs and

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you have a very young population. Is there a generation gap in Algeria,

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that older voters, perhaps like Abdelaziz Bouteflika because they

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remember the stability. There was all that terrible violence in the

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1990s and thousands of people died. He has 24% of the Algerian

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population with no jobs, despite the resources. You have almost 25% who

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are living under the poverty line. You have made that point but on this

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question of the fact that the RB, which backs Abdelaziz Bouteflika,

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the deep state, they have brought stability. -- the fact that the

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Army, which backs president-macro... Is he the candidate for stability?

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That is what he is proposing, but there are problems because of his

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old age and his health. He has not brought the economy... OK, but if he

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is ill and unable to take care of the day-to-day process of

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Government, who is running the show? His brother and the Army, and the

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small group around him will run the show. He's completely unfit to rule

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the country for now. And the Army will be watching very closely, and

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the reason they are supporting him is because they feel first that he

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has brought a little stability. He is the man who can manipulate and

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control the other political parties. Thank you very much.

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Voting has been taking place on the biggest day so far of India's

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marathon general election. Today, 121 parliamentary seats are up for

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grabs in 12 states. The main challenger to India's ruling

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Congress party is the Hindu nationalist BJP. Its candidate

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Narendra Modi is seen by critics as anti-Muslim. One of the key states

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going to the polls today is Rajasthan in Western India. Sanjoy

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Majumder reports from the state capital, Jaipur.

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A helping hand to enable her to enter the polling station. She is

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one of the many who streamed in steadily to cast their vote. This is

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the most significant day of polling, and every vote counts in what is

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turning out to be a bitterly fought election. The voters are in an

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unforgiving mood. TRANSLATION: India should progress. We should get rid

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of corruption so that the poor and middle classes get the chance to

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move forward. TRANSLATION: Make things cheaper. Everything is

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becoming so expensive. We are finding it harder to manage. This

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building is more than 100 years old. It is one of the city's oldest

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schools and it has now been converted into a polling station.

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You can just see the number of women who have turned out to vote today.

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It is something we have seen in earlier phases of these elections as

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well, large turnouts, many women as well. It usually means that they are

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trying to send a strong message. Wherever we go, they say the same

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thing - they are fed up with the politicians. 100km from Jaipur, they

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are focused on the elections, too. This is the village of Rajnota. The

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pace of life here has not changed over the years and it has hardly

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seen any development. In the village square, the elders tell me, "We only

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see the politicians during the election times." TRANSLATION: There

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are no jobs here. Delhi is 250km, 300km away, and Mumbai is even

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further. It's too far for our children to go looking for work.

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TRANSLATION: The politicians just lie to us all the time. In ten

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years, no one has built a road or a hospital. People here have been left

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out of India's progress, but they are hungry for change. And this is

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the one time they can push for it. As Christians get ready to celebrate

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one of their main festivals, Easter, a survey of 65 countries suggests

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that most people believe religion has a beneficial role in society.

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66,000 people were surveyed by the company WIN/Gallup. Indonesia came

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out as the country most supportive of religion. Africa was the most

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supportive region. The United States topped developed countries. Let's

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talk some more about this. I am joined by our religious affairs

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correspondent, Robert Pigott. An interesting survey. And one not done

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very regularly but what it showed, what it hides is as interesting as

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what it reveals. They asked people how positively they regarded

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religion in its role in their own country and they subtracted from

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that how negatively people thought as well. Some felt positive, some

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negative. They got a score for each country. 95% of people in Indonesia

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thought of religion played a positive role in their country.

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Africa came at... The vast majority of people in Indonesia are Muslim.

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Yes. Africa is partly Muslim and partly Christian, and has

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traditional religions as well. The Middle East and North Africa was the

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next region. Roughly 55% positive. Then you begin to look at roles

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which are less positive than that. Is it across already genes? Some of

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the areas you have cited, Indonesia, end of the nation, although it has

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non-Muslim people living there as well, Middle East, Africa, was it

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mainly Muslims who said they value religion? Muslims came out top of

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the people who view religion as being a positive force in their

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country. But Protestant Christians also. Hindus were one of the least

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favourable of the role religion played in the country. Which region

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was the most negative towards religion? Western Europe was

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conspicuously the most negative and there are also to be just impossible

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reasons. Could it be because religious institutions are

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unpopular, could it be to do with the sex scandal in the church? There

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is also the link between educational achievement and the religion. The

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higher your education is, the least likely you are to favour religion.

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At each stage, you find a greater negative net feeling towards

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religion. So could it be that the most educated areas of the world

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have that view? Did atheists see any merit at all in religion for their

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fellow citizens the believers? Not a lot in the overall school but four

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out of ten it think so, so they did see a positive role for religion. --

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the overall score. And that is because religion, in essence, is a

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good code for leading a good life when you take out ritual elements.

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If you live in Africa do you see the big conflict between the themes and

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Christians in Nigeria as being a religious one or tribal one? Thank

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you. Prince William and his wife, the Duchess of Cambridge, have been

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visiting one of the areas devastated by Australian bush fires just six

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months ago. The royal couple visited the Blue

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Mountains, speaking to people affected by the fires, before taking

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in the view. They met local leaders, members from the emergency services,

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and fire volunteers. The Duke and Duchess began their ten-day tour of

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Australia on Wednesday. That is it from us. Goodbye.

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After today's extra cloud, pressure is building for the start of the

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Easter weekend. Friday and Saturday not the warmest,

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