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Welcome to a new series of Antiques Roadshow and my first programme.

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As a new boy, I'm looking forward very much to what lies ahead,

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as we take our caravan to castles, stately homes and local halls all over the country.

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Hopefully, there'll be much to see and interesting people to meet.

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We start in London, at the greatest treasure store in Britain - the Victoria & Albert Museum.

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The place is unmatched, with some of the best pieces of all periods, all styles, from all parts of the globe.

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There are ceramics from England and from China,

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paintings from France and from India,

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glass that's 3,000 years old and glass that was made yesterday.

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You'll find furniture that's ornate and furniture that's very simple.

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There are textiles, costumes,

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silver, old illustrated books, musical instruments, stained glass from Germany,

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and the museum houses every kind of sculpture, from delicate wooden figures to towering bronzes.

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There are seven miles of galleries and all in all, the V&A owns about four million objects.

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It's difficult to know where to start. It started in 1852, right after the Great Exhibition of 1851.

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Over six million people have been to the Crystal Palace to marvel at treasures from around the world.

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Ticket sales were huge. The museum was founded on the proceeds.

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Pieces were purchased from the Exhibition to start the collection.

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It was set up in an iron building - the Brompton Boilers,

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and over the next 50 years it grew,

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and visitors have got lost in its maze of galleries ever since.

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Turning yet another corner, you come upon this.

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Your first thought is, "Michelangelo's David! It can't be here!"

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It is a copy, as are the other treasures of Italy in this room.

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Plaster casts were taken from the originals, and they're here for students to study and draw.

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Turn another corner, you find these.

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There are those who will say this is not art, this is something else, but it is very much part of the V&A.

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It's not just a museum for antiques, it's for anything that will help designers of the future.

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And this, the V&A hope, IS the future - a new building for the V&A for the 21st century.

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The model is of the design by Daniel Libeskind, to be fitted into the remaining plot of land on the site,

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and it's entirely different from the Victorian buildings which will surround it.

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Naturally, some people love it, and a lot of people loathe it.

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It is true to the founding principle of this astonishing institution, to educate and to surprise.

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The Roadshow has been set up in the grand entrance hall, and also in the sculpture galleries.

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Let's see what our experts find.

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My wife had it for five or six years.

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It's probably come down through the family.

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-She was wearing it as costume jewellery.

-What did she wear it on?

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Denim jackets, anything that she thought... Nice, sparkly thing.

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We took it to a jeweller's to get the clasp repaired.

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-He said, "You do realise it's the real thing?"

-The real thing.

-She's not worn it since, more's the pity.

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-Diamonds and denim!

-Yes.

-Thought about the design?

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-I did notice that the two ends unscrewed, but...

-They unscrew

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because there is probably not only this brooch but a cascade of them

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running down the front of a corseted dress in about 1900.

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You think your wife had problems. Think of Princess Youssoupova walking around with this.

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-Not bad.

-No.

-I say Princess Youssoupova as I can tell it's a Russian brooch by the safety clasp.

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It's a strange sort of twist like a question mark at the end,

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which stops the owner pricking her finger, or her lady's maid pricking her finger,

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as you'd never put this on yourself in pre-Revolutionary Russia.

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It's what we call a stomacher because it runs along the front of the stomach of such a lady.

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I can't think how it could be more beautiful.

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Underneath here, there's a break in the design

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which I think is where the second and however many more brooches went down to meet it -

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a tiny little groove here.

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And also observe the beauty of this gallery here, the pierced gallery,

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and the fact that the back is made of gold

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and yet the front is of platinum, to give the whiteness of the effect.

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I think it's a late brooch - 20th Century.

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The Russians - it's a curiously sort of feudal life they lived there -

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and in the early 20th Century, things couldn't be more sumptuous, bejewelled and exotic,

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so this is a fantastic context, really, isn't it?

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I'm going to look for hallmarks. Russian hallmarks usually appear on the clasp of the jewel,

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and along the pin, which is strange, and yet there are more here.

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It's good that I did check. There are the initials of the maker there.

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Feodor Lorie - Art-Nouveau jeweller making things in the Lalique manner.

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Serpents, butterflies and the like.

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A slightly conventional one for him, but very beautiful. What did the jeweller's say?

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-They must have admired it very much.

-They did, yes.

-Mm.

-They said it was a lovely piece and...

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-and even said "I'll give you £5,000 scrap for it." I said no.

-Wow!

-I don't think so.

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-Scrapping it's not the right word.

-Exactly.

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-We've gone beyond scrap.

-It's too beautiful to break down.

-Fabulous context.

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-If he's going to offer you £5,000 scrap for it, double it for insurance. £10,000.

-Ooh!

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-For insurance? Yeah.

-Dear me.

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Pembroke tables we've seen before -

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this is the nicest type which is an oval, which if we lift the flaps,

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that is just the greatest shape.

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A typical Classical period,

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just in that time between 1775 and 1790.

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A transition piece,

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-because you have an element of carving on the leg and this element of inlay.

-Right.

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So that's how we date it, it's between purely carved and purely inlaid, for decoration.

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One of the tricks that they learned early on, was to make the top look very thin

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by putting a simple moulded edge... If you'd a half round moulding, it would look thick and clumsy.

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If you lessen it by just a sixteenth of an inch, the eye catches on and it's a thin, elegant top.

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And then the distance between the edge and this banding

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-is just perfect to make the proportion look good.

-Right.

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This is boxwood and ebony.

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Each one of those little chevrons is created by dipping the point into hot sand and scorching it,

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-giving a 3-dimensional effect. What about family history?

-My grandmother gave it to me when I was 21,

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-and I've said I'll give it to my eldest grand-daughter when she's 21.

-Oh, wonderful.

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I'll show you why it's special. Turn it upside down, for a better look.

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OK, just rest it on its back. Now, first of all...

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You have an inlaid patterae at the top.

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-Ten years earlier, this would have been carved. Ten years later this would not have been carved.

-Golly.

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That again confirms the date. Look at the top. What a wonderful way to finish moulding.

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A Cupid's bow at the top - not straight across - boring.

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It doesn't stop the eye following the line up. Now this is a lovely Cupid's bow in reverse, in section,

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all the way down, tapering down here,

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and then the most magic bit of all, that single punch hole,

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which gives the whole thing an architectural touch to it.

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-See this wonderful little peg?

-Yes.

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That's the hinge for the loper. It's a sign of authenticity when you see where it's rubbed on the side.

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Back to that peg - the original wooden peg, never ever been touched.

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-You've trouble with that leg.

-Yes.

-Somebody put a piece of brass on it.

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That is so easy to remedy.

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-You should have something done with that - it will spoil the carcase.

-Right.

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There, the prettiest Pembroke table you could wish to see.

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For purposes of insurance you'd be thinking of probably £12,500 to £15,000.

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-Ooh, good grief!

-Well, for all the reasons I've said.

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-An ordinary one is £5,000 or £6,000. This is extraordinary.

-Really?

-It's lovely.

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-Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.

-I love it.

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We're from New Zealand. Timaru in the South Island. We're in London for a week visiting then going to Europe.

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-Did you come to buy antiques, or to have a good look?

-To have a look.

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Love your programme in New Zealand. About six weeks ago, you showed a programme of Blenheim Palace.

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And that prompted us - on Friday we're going to visit it.

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-So which one of you is the older sister?

-I am.

-By how much?

-Half an hour.

-Makes a difference.

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Yes, she's half a size bigger in everything and I just lag behind.

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-We all like different things.

-Yes.

-So you like some of those. We happen to like, um, that.

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These three were acquired by my parents some time or other,

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I don't know where.

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-This I bought in an auction.

-Right.

-But I believe that one to be a fake.

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-Oh, right.

-The rest I don't know about.

-We give them the weight test,

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and really feel the weight of them.

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This one does feel too light, it's too thick on the rim,

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it's got a yellow colour... It's well-made glass, but that is a fake.

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-So I was right.

-Yeah. You've got nothing there. But this one, on the other hand, is just right.

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Heavy, a beautiful brilliant colour.

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What super engraving! The rose, with one bud and two buds, the emblem of the Jacobites.

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You've got an oak leaf and "Fiat",

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the Jacobite motto which means "that is so", "my claim's real".

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The whole thing commemorates the supporters of Bonnie Prince Charlie,

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-so a very collectable wine glass, lovely condition, and valuable, worth £1,200.

-Blimey, that's good!

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Expected £200-£300, top whack.

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-I think it's a fake teapot.

-A fake?

-Yes.

-You collect teapots?

-I do.

-And you think you've got a fake.

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-I think so.

-It's quite a genuine... called a Cadogan teapot.

-Really?

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Named after Lady Cadogan, who brought the shape back from China, but turned it into a teapot.

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-Made around about 1830.

-How interesting!

-170 years old.

-Yes.

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-And, of course, it pours in the most extraordinary way - it fills in an incredible way.

-No...

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-How do you...? How do you think you fill it?

-Maybe here?

-Spout? No.

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-Oh, dear.

-You pour hot, strained tea into there.

-Oh?

-Let's use this.

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-Let's actually... May I use it?

-Yes, please, do. The first time.

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-Gosh. This is pretend hot tea - it's only cold water.

-OK.

-Right, you pour... You pour that into there,

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-like that...

-Ooh, how strange.

-And then what do you do?

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-I have got no idea.

-Well, you simply turn it over like that.

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-It's like a magic teapot, really.

-Then you pour it out like that.

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-How interesting.

-Absolutely genuine.

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A perfect one would be something like about £150.

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-A little bit damaged on the spout.

-Yes.

-So we're perhaps below £100.

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-What did you pay for it?

-About £15, 30 years ago.

-Very good.

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-And absolutely genuine.

-Oh, that's great - thank you very much.

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-A Cadogan you can use.

-I love it.

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I bought it in Tokyo in the mid-'70s. It was my first time in Tokyo.

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-I'd been reading Shogun...and thought he was a wonderful piece.

-I think you're right,

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-but do you actually know what he is?

-No.

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-I assumed it was in the doll category and I collect tin toys.

-Do you?

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He's a splendid character, but you're quite right, he is a doll, made for a boy on Boys' Day.

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The girls had dolls on Girls' Days.

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And he would've had a lot more armour. I think, obviously, it's gone missing over the years.

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-His head is made of what we call gofum - crushed shells.

-Interesting.

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He would've had a head-dress which is known as a kabuto,

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a very high head-dress with an emblem on the top.

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What I love is the underside of his shoe, which... I'll turn it round.

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I mean, it just defies anything to do with armour, doesn't it?

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-This wonderful latticework of straw.

-That's in reasonable condition.

-And in very good condition.

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So, um... he has a very grand silk-covered...

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-This is all backed in paper.

-Right.

-And hard paper too, so that it sticks out. It's very grand.

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I would say he's probably around circa 1800 - not more than 1820.

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He's highly collectable, particularly to the Japanese.

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-He would be worth in the region of £1,500 to £2,000.

-That's very good.

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I'm not a Doulton collector, I like them because they've got mermaids.

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I collect things with mermaids and fish and marine motifs on, and shells and things,

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and I saw these and I thought they were wonderful, so I bought them.

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I think they're wonderful too.

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The Art Nouveau movement started on the continent, but these at the same time are so English, really.

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I think they're splendid decoration.

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We've got the initial of the painter there. Individual painter, of course, that's Margaret E Thompson.

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All these Doulton pieces were signed with initials, most are female.

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This is one of the great specialities of Sir Henry Doulton, that he was employing these ladies.

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Art school starting etc, being trained, not really anybody wanting to employ them.

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Doulton was one of the first to employ the talented female artists.

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-I think those are splendid. Did you go out and buy them or are they family pieces?

-No, no.

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I bought them in an auction about 12 years ago.

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-I saw them and I liked them.

-How far did you fall for them? What did they cost?

-About £400.

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-Did they?

-12 years ago.

-Today, certainly, 12 years on,

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well over £1,000. I would have thought, £1,200 - £1,500.

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-You must have a lot of pleasure from that £400.

-I'll never sell them.

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-An Archers tea towel.

-Because I'm Charles Collingwood, but I play Brian Aldridge in the Archers.

-Yes.

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-Just as important, I'm married to Judy Bennett who plays...

-Shula. -

-You're Shula!

-Shula Hebdon Lloyd.

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-You must have difficulty remembering who you actually are.

-Yes.

-Sometimes.

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It's easier being on Radio - you don't lose your identity so easily.

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-So in here...

-Right.

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..is a very charming little plate with a monogram in the centre and a signature on the back - Mason 1876.

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-William Mason would have been my great-great-grandfather on my mother's side.

-Mm, yes.

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Very much a Londoner,

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obviously, a colourist,

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did illustrations,

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but he became best known by being the first person ever to be commissioned to colour Christmas cards -

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-apparently up till then they'd been in black and white.

-Yes.

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-Commissioned to paint the first Xmas cards.

-Paint over a print?

-Exactly.

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Yes, well, do you have any examples of his work? Of his Christmas cards?

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-No.

-No, sadly we don't.

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The plate is very charming, and obviously painted by him,

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just as a little amateur painting I think.

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-He wasn't at any china factory - he would have got a blank and painted it.

-For his children?

-Possibly.

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As a family thing, with the monogram on the centre.

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But the painting is very extraordinary, it's after James Hardy Junior.

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-Right.

-There were two James Hardys and this is by W Mason, 1856,

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-painted from the life, but in the style of...

-In the style of Hardy, as I believe.

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Hardy was a fine painter and this is quite a good copy.

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I like it particularly for this stoneware jug there, which is the time of George I or George II -

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an import from Germany, in Rhenish stoneware.

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Anyway, that's fun, and the plate is not worth a great deal because it's a little personal family treasure,

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but the painting has a fair value.

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-One's looking at about £400 or £500.

-Jolly nice!

-But it's nice.

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Here's a charming letter written by Charles Dickens and he subscribes his name at the bottom here.

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It's not written by him, but by a clerk or a secretary,

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but it's to Mrs Clarke and Mr Vellow.

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I dare think that these are people who played with him,

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when he took his touring company around the country doing Shakespeare plays and modern comedies.

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Miss Cowden Clarke I think her name was.

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Anyway, he says, "I the undersigned,

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"mindful in my heart... of your kind remembrance of me in your beautiful and careful to be pleased gift..."

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"..proffered with all love and friendship..."

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It's a charming letter. It's lacking its integral blank leaf which it should have,

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but nevertheless a letter like that, would be worth somewhere in the region of £400-£450.

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And delightfully... You can always tell George Bernard Shaw's writing -

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this lovely paragraph caught my...caught my eye.

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"May I suggest that you request the Duke of Westminster to resign his place on the General Committee

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"because of his campaign against pianofortes in Board Schools?

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"If you do that, and get it into the papers,

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"it will do the society better. George Bernard Shaw to Mrs Beavington Atkinson, Kyle Society."

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That's a wonderful letter.

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That would be somewhere in the region of £350, possibly £400.

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Anyway, this is a remarkable collection. What is the core of it?

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The main part of the collection was left to me by my grandmother when I was 12.

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-An extraordinary thing to have given a child of 12.

-I suppose she thought I would be interested in books.

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I was interested in painting and drawing, and I presume that's why she did leave them to me.

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The letters were written to a cousin of hers, Mrs Beavington Atkinson,

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and she was a member of the Fripp family of painters.

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And her husband was the president of a literary society

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and I was always fascinated by them. I thought they were wonderful,

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-because holding these letters is as near as you'll ever get to the person who wrote them.

-Right.

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You see every little ink spot. People say, "Oh, you could collect clothes."

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-But it's their thoughts at the time.

-Absolutely.

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But you've got an incredible collection here.

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Thomas Carlisle, Amelia Edwards...

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You've got a couple of Ruskin letters. It goes on and on... artists, writers, everybody there.

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But this is a very good collection,

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I'm thrilled to have seen it. You've a Yeats letter here. Yeats - incredibly highly collectable,

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and even though this doesn't say very much - it is still quite an important letter, worth £400-£500.

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But also in the collection - and I have to pull this out, because I think this is probably the star.

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To have a writer who actually pens a poem like this - and the Cradle Song -

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and this I assume is a draft of the Cradle Song...

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-It's not the same as the published one.

-That's the most important thing.

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Terribly exciting. It's a wonderful poem, all in Yeats' hand - a Cradle Song - and the final verse reads:

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"I sigh that kiss you for I must own that I shall miss you when you have grown."

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-It's rather sad, but rather poignant and rather lovely.

-Yes, very.

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-That is probably worth the best part of £4,000.

-Oh, my goodness.

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So looking through the collection - have you any idea? I suppose not.

0:22:520:22:57

-Adding up...

-No. Nobody has seen them until I've shown them to you.

0:22:570:23:01

-I'm very privileged, but you've got, I suspect, the best part of £10,000 worth of autographs.

-My goodness.

0:23:010:23:09

-Your show has been running for how long?

-I think it's 50 years on January 1st.

-1st January next year.

0:23:120:23:19

-Well, that sounds like a cue for a very good meeting - the Roadshow comes to Ambridge.

-That'd be fun.

0:23:190:23:25

So good. I've got all the land for you to have it on. Brian's got 2,000 acres.

0:23:250:23:32

To think that these silly cartoon men were painted 350 years ago.

0:23:340:23:39

-They look very modern.

-They do. Did you realise how old they were when you bought them?

-We knew nothing.

0:23:390:23:46

-So where do they come from?

-We lived near the Kensington Church Street and liked looking in windows there.

0:23:460:23:54

-I went into one shop and on the floor was a pile of big ones like this and little ones like that.

-Right.

0:23:540:24:01

They looked very decorative. The big ones were £1, the little ones 10/-.

0:24:010:24:08

-How many did you buy?

-Those two, we've been happy to have them ever since.

0:24:080:24:14

-You left the rest in the pile?

-Yes. I'd love to go back for more.

-When was that?

-The early '50s.

0:24:140:24:21

Yes, here we're looking at dishes made in Tuscany. They're from the potteries in the region of Montelupo

0:24:210:24:28

and they depict local characters, painted in a wonderful naive way.

0:24:280:24:34

Looking at that character, I suppose he's a soldier of some sort. He's holding a flag, or something.

0:24:340:24:41

-What a splendid hat he has on.

-He's lovely.

-And always painted in this funny pose, legs wide open.

0:24:410:24:48

-Soldiers with guns or flags.

-Yes.

-Occasionally, young ladies. This one I think is unusual, being...

0:24:480:24:54

-I suppose he's a harlequin.

-He's got a mask on.

-A carnival mask, a little pointed beard.

-Yes.

0:24:540:25:01

He has the soldier's uniform, but it's the Italian comedy character inherent in early Italian art.

0:25:010:25:09

-Made to hang on a wall.

-Yes.

-When we turn them over, there'll be pierced holes.

0:25:090:25:15

-They have a method of hanging them.

-Yes, this has a chain in it.

-D'you...?

0:25:150:25:20

One is on the wall, one is standing up.

0:25:200:25:23

-It hangs up from there on the wall.

-Picture rail.

-Perfectly safe, as long as you make sure wire's tight.

0:25:230:25:31

Not being used, the colours are as fresh as when they were made in about 1650.

0:25:310:25:37

-As early as that?

-As early as that, and they look so modern.

0:25:370:25:41

Picasso was influenced by these dishes. He made modern ceramics and painted figures in this style.

0:25:410:25:48

-You could almost believe that these were made by someone like Picasso.

-That's wonderful.

0:25:480:25:54

But these are the real picture dishes from that region of Italy, made in maiolica and lovely things.

0:25:540:26:01

-Today your pound has become £1,000 there.

-Really?

-£500 for that one.

-Oh, thank you very much.

0:26:010:26:10

I came to the V&A Art Nouveau Exhibition

0:26:100:26:12

and browsed through the shop afterwards. I saw one of these.

0:26:120:26:17

-A reproduction. I thought maybe this is the real thing.

-OK.

-Can you tell me?

0:26:170:26:23

We'll have a look at it.

0:26:230:26:24

-What's the background to it? Is it a family object or...?

-Yes.

0:26:240:26:28

My father is French, my grandmother was French and so it came from her.

0:26:280:26:34

-So you think the odds are it's going to be French?

-That's my thinking.

0:26:340:26:39

You're forgiven for saying that, because the French did dominate the Art Nouveau scene in 1900,

0:26:390:26:46

but this girl, I can tell you, she's not a mademoiselle - she's a Fraulein because she's German,

0:26:460:26:52

and if we turn her upside down, it's all there in the marks,

0:26:520:26:56

because, get it the right way round,

0:26:560:27:00

you've got a mark in the centre and the initials WMF and a little stork in a lozenge.

0:27:000:27:06

That's for the Wurtemberg Metal Workshops

0:27:060:27:10

and they produced a lot of this Art Nouveau art pewter.

0:27:100:27:17

Datewise, about 1900-1905, and it was retailed in quite a few London shops.

0:27:170:27:24

I think Mr Liberty in Regent Street was very big on retailing German art pewter.

0:27:240:27:31

So much so that he actually started his own art pewter called Tudric.

0:27:310:27:36

But anyway, this is so typical - commercial Art Nouveau,

0:27:360:27:40

especially with the use of these whiplash curvilinear supports and the maiden with her hair en chignon.

0:27:400:27:48

It's so typical but right as rain. It's not obviously a reproduction. You've got to be careful.

0:27:480:27:54

The ones to look out for at the moment tend to use an angel within an oval, as a mark.

0:27:540:28:01

So if you have one and it looks cheap, or you're about to buy one, be suspicious.

0:28:010:28:06

Now I know for a fact that the reproductions were selling for around about £200-£250,

0:28:060:28:13

-but when you've got the real thing, you're nearer £750, so not bad.

-Right.

-So, not...not bad.

0:28:130:28:20

Wow! Well, frankly if I didn't know what this jewel was, I'd be happy to find the inscription in the lid

0:28:210:28:27

which tells me its history. It says, "The Guild of Handicraft".

0:28:270:28:32

That's the big key to the fascination of a jewel like this. Tell me what you know about it.

0:28:320:28:39

It was a present from my grandmother when I was eight years old.

0:28:390:28:44

-You've worn it since?

-Yes.

-And enjoyed it?

-Yes I do.

0:28:440:28:48

-These are most delicious-looking rubies.

-Very pretty.

-And enamelwork.

0:28:480:28:54

-Have you been allowed to wear it?

-No. Not yet.

-You're queueing up.

0:28:540:28:59

Well this is made by one of England's greatest Arts and Crafts jewellers, Charles Robert Ashbee.

0:28:590:29:05

He was an architect and furniture maker and had a huge influence on the Arts and Crafts Movement,

0:29:050:29:12

second only to William Morris. We know Ashbee opened this business in 1888 and it was finished in 1908.

0:29:120:29:20

So we've a brilliant context to its date too.

0:29:200:29:23

The enamelling work derives from the Renaissance - it's an English Renaissance type of jewel.

0:29:230:29:29

Set with two rubies and the tiny pendant loop is a little miracle of filigree work here,

0:29:290:29:37

and again there's an antique reference to the twisted gold work

0:29:370:29:40

suspending the ruby and the pearl.

0:29:400:29:44

It was felt they wanted to evoke ancient goldsmithing techniques,

0:29:440:29:49

to look at Medieval and Renaissance forms with a modern interpretation.

0:29:490:29:53

And having taken on board the value of the two rather beautiful little rubies,

0:29:530:29:59

we have to think about a value of between £4,000 and £6,000 today.

0:29:590:30:04

Oh... I didn't expect that!

0:30:050:30:08

I don't know a lot about it. It belonged to my mother-in-law,

0:30:080:30:12

and I've had it since the '60s. Late '60s.

0:30:120:30:16

-So it's a true family piece?

-Yes.

-It has that nice feel to it.

-Well used.

-And enjoyed and loved, right?

0:30:160:30:23

What is nice about it is that it's a plain good Georgian piece. It has all the line in the world.

0:30:230:30:31

This wonderful baluster stem, nice bit of turning in the middle,

0:30:310:30:35

good shaped legs, nothing fancy about it,

0:30:350:30:39

but the special part is this rim.

0:30:390:30:41

Now many tables were just a thick plank top, so this is among the rarer type.

0:30:410:30:49

Later, to make the plain ones more fashionable, people dished them out.

0:30:490:30:53

This is the original dishing.

0:30:530:30:57

We used to use tables for different occasions in different ways. Our rooms weren't set as they are now.

0:30:570:31:03

This would be used as a tea table, say, after dinner. We didn't have afternoon tea when this was made.

0:31:030:31:10

During the day, when we'd have met and gathered for the equivalent of a cocktail party in the afternoon,

0:31:100:31:18

this would've been stood against the wall, tipped up, like so.

0:31:180:31:22

So that's the view you'd have seen of this table.

0:31:220:31:27

One thing that is a problem to collectors, particularly nowadays,

0:31:270:31:31

is whether the top belongs to the bottom.

0:31:310:31:35

Where this top here has been in contact with the block, you can see signs of contact, here, and here,

0:31:350:31:43

where it matches a little block which is the top of the tenon, coming through from the base,

0:31:430:31:49

and in the corners, you can see a dry patch there which matches that patch there.

0:31:490:31:55

There's no way anybody marrying the bits together could've done that,

0:31:550:32:00

so all of those signs just lift it out of the ordinary,

0:32:000:32:04

and the colour under here, where hundreds of hands have done exactly that, created their own patina here.

0:32:040:32:11

You can't make that.

0:32:110:32:14

It happens over 150 or 200 years - so that's really why I think it... you know, I love the table

0:32:140:32:20

and of its type it's exceptional in this old and original dishing

0:32:200:32:26

-and the colour and the feel of it, you know... You like it too?

-I like it, yes.

-Sure.

0:32:260:32:32

-Good. I mean, I would insure it for £6,000.

-Right.

-All right?

-Yes.

-Very good, thank you.

0:32:320:32:38

-What's the type of wood?

-Mahogany.

0:32:380:32:41

-Right.

-And these three pieces were all made at the same date, the beginning of the 18th century,

0:32:410:32:48

but what is interesting, of course, is this one was made in China,

0:32:480:32:53

and these two were made in Europe,

0:32:530:32:56

although they've got Chinese subjects in them.

0:32:560:32:59

These little pots intrigue me a lot,

0:32:590:33:02

one, because I've actually never seen two pots of the same size -

0:33:020:33:08

both of milk jug size - with the same pattern on. That doesn't normally happen.

0:33:080:33:15

I have seen this pattern before

0:33:150:33:17

and it's a pattern that occurs

0:33:170:33:20

on porcelain made by Bottger, at Meissen, between 1715 and 1720.

0:33:200:33:26

They're very early, or the porcelain is very early.

0:33:260:33:31

There is an intriguing question that surrounds them

0:33:310:33:36

and that is where this decoration was done,

0:33:360:33:40

because they have traditionally been called "Dutch-decorated wares".

0:33:400:33:45

-Because you get this... See this rather brittle blue enamel here?

-Yes.

-Slightly flaky.

0:33:450:33:51

You get that not merely on Meissen pieces, but on Chinese and Japanese pieces decorated in Holland.

0:33:510:33:59

They were originally bought, I think, just after the war, from a collector

0:33:590:34:06

and what you've told me now ties up

0:34:060:34:10

with what I've been told subsequently by a friend, some years ago.

0:34:100:34:15

I mean, this is marvellous to see -

0:34:150:34:18

what the early Meissen porcelain, early Bottger porcelain, looked like.

0:34:180:34:23

It's absolutely classic. This creamy surface and this is a typical unglazed foot rim.

0:34:230:34:29

That is a Meissen handle. Only Meissens made a handle like this.

0:34:290:34:33

-From silver designs.

-From silver designs made by Mr Erminger, who designed all their pieces.

0:34:330:34:41

But they are slightly different. This is... This is...much a bigger body, this is much more waisted.

0:34:420:34:49

I think that's just a question of the way they were made, the way they were potted.

0:34:490:34:56

They are meant to be the same size.

0:34:560:34:59

-..No. No, the lids don't - the lids never do exchange on Meissen pieces.

-No.

0:34:590:35:06

So there they are, very good condition.

0:35:060:35:09

You've got a bit of loss of gilding, but I mean that really doesn't matter,

0:35:090:35:15

-and I think you should certainly insure them for £5,000.

-As much as that?

-Yes, I think so.

0:35:150:35:22

If you wanted to buy them again, you'd have to pay that order of money.

0:35:230:35:28

So, John, how do you define your job here?

0:35:280:35:31

I have to look at a piece of furniture, and decide from the features that are decorative,

0:35:310:35:37

or its construction, or its design, as to how old it could be, whether or not it's authentic,

0:35:370:35:43

and then, hopefully, tell the surprised and delighted owner

0:35:430:35:47

the benefits of something they've used for 40 years perhaps. That's basically it.

0:35:470:35:53

You also have to break bad news to them - they might have a hybrid piece of furniture.

0:35:530:35:58

Yes, I often think there's more interest in a hybrid than in the purest piece of furniture

0:35:580:36:04

as it shows that through its history something's happened to it, which we may not know, but can surmise...

0:36:040:36:10

History of furniture as a utility object is involving and interesting. It's a fascinating thing to do.

0:36:100:36:17

What do you most look forward to? What are you hoping will come up?

0:36:170:36:22

The thought of finding a piece of furniture which to the untutored eye looks quite ordinary,

0:36:220:36:28

is enjoyed by the owner and they don't really know why,

0:36:280:36:33

and to be able to say - this is why it's so wonderful,

0:36:330:36:37

this is what went into making this piece which makes it stand out.

0:36:370:36:42

I've been very lucky, I've had a piece like that today and it's wonderful, very exciting to do.

0:36:420:36:47

The right owner - very keen, knowledgeable, but not a connoisseur in that way

0:36:470:36:53

and a piece of furniture which looked - because of its condition - something you'd dismiss,

0:36:530:36:58

-but with all those special features that just lifted it - great fun.

-Make their day.

-Made mine!

0:36:580:37:04

"Lovynge hartes, dethe onlye partes". That's really rather sweet.

0:37:040:37:10

-It sort of harks back to the Medieval period.

-Yes.

0:37:100:37:13

Those things that they had with mottos inside.

0:37:130:37:16

-Where did you find these?

-I found it in a dustbin, in a paladin bin.

0:37:160:37:21

-Do you make a habit of this?

-Yes, I'm rather...

0:37:210:37:26

-I've had some good finds.

-Yes? Amazing what people throw away.

-Mm.

0:37:260:37:30

This is dated 1881. Not a terribly exciting thing but it's nice because of the Medieval revival motto.

0:37:300:37:38

-This, however, I think is a lot more exciting and this you found in the same way?

-Yes.

0:37:380:37:44

-Amazing.

-But they weren't like this.

-No.

-They were very black.

0:37:440:37:49

They hadn't been cleaned for ages.

0:37:490:37:51

This very attractive box, probably a tobacco box, was made by the well-known silversmith Omar Ramsden,

0:37:510:37:58

and hallmarked on the back, "made in 1936",

0:37:580:38:04

-and it's a very attractive box with these two little cupids.

-Yes.

0:38:040:38:09

This one's holding a pineapple - a symbol of hospitality.

0:38:090:38:13

Yes, I quite like the way it gathers here, the silver.

0:38:130:38:17

-D'you see? It's almost as though it's been pinched.

-I think this is an example of the auricular style,

0:38:170:38:24

-which is nothing to do with gold, but to do with ears.

-Right.

0:38:240:38:28

Developed in the 17th C by a Dutch designer, it's the shape of your ear lobes and the curves of your ears.

0:38:280:38:36

It's really delightful.

0:38:360:38:38

The bangle's not terribly valuable. I thought the inscription was fun.

0:38:380:38:42

-But this is quite a different kettle of fish and whatever it's worth, it's all profit.

-Of course.

0:38:420:38:49

Well, I think that for insurance purposes,

0:38:490:38:53

-I'd value this today at £1,500 to £2,000.

-That is a good find!

0:38:530:38:59

-You did well.

-I shall keep looking.

0:38:590:39:02

It's wonderful to be here in the Victoria & Albert Museum

0:39:020:39:06

-but I never expected that we'd get brought in a museum-quality picture, but that's what you've brought.

-Wow.

0:39:060:39:13

Look at the way he has handled the whole light in this market scene,

0:39:130:39:19

the way the light comes off the candle and illuminates her face. It's a most brilliant piece of work.

0:39:190:39:27

-Lovely.

-You have the source of light,

0:39:270:39:29

then you've another candle light here and tremendously subtle lighting in...

0:39:290:39:35

Look at the reflections on this copper jug - wonderfully handled -

0:39:350:39:40

and the way these - this boy and this young man - are conversing.

0:39:400:39:46

He's looking at him but he's looking across at her.

0:39:460:39:50

Wonderful little narrative details in this overall scene.

0:39:500:39:54

-Has it been in your family for some time?

-It was in my husband's family.

0:39:540:39:59

-Right.

-And I think his father bought it many years ago.

0:39:590:40:02

Was there a particular significance to the subject for your father-in-law when he bought it?

0:40:020:40:11

-He worked in the fish market as a young boy.

-Did he?

-And his father was in the fish market before him,

0:40:110:40:18

and so I imagine that because it's a market scene, that's what appealed to him, but I don't know really.

0:40:180:40:25

-Also the fact that it's on the quayside.

-Yes.

-There probably is fish being sold...

-I would guess so.

0:40:250:40:32

-And he'd have remembered the moonlit night-time markets.

-He had a good eye for paintings.

0:40:320:40:39

-Certainly did.

-And I had a good eye,

0:40:390:40:42

because when they split the house up when the parents-in-law died, this was the one thing I really loved.

0:40:420:40:49

Very good choice you made. There's so much more when you get into it -

0:40:490:40:54

there's this wonderful moonlight at the top of the picture,

0:40:540:40:59

again sort of illuminating the silhouettes of the buildings

0:40:590:41:04

and the rigging of the ships behind.

0:41:040:41:08

-I didn't know what they were.

-Rigging of sailing vessels.

-Of course.

-Incredibly beautifully handled.

0:41:080:41:16

Very subtle, and then to reveal all, at the bottom is the signature here.

0:41:160:41:20

-Yes.

-P Van Schendel.

-Yes.

-Petrus Van Schendel - a Dutch painter, but he worked in Belgium and Holland

0:41:200:41:29

and he absolutely specialised in these moonlit/candlelit scenes.

0:41:290:41:34

He was... It was his trademark, if you like, what he was absolutely brilliant at,

0:41:340:41:39

and he was working in the middle of the 19th century.

0:41:390:41:43

Between about 1830 and 1870, was when he was really in his prime.

0:41:430:41:49

Painted in oil on this very nice bit of wood.

0:41:490:41:54

Well, just quality is the word for it.

0:41:540:41:57

It is by probably the leading, um, candlelight painter of the 19th Century.

0:41:570:42:03

-That I didn't know. I did see some of Van Schendel's paintings in New York.

-Yes.

0:42:030:42:09

Two, three years ago. Perhaps five years ago.

0:42:090:42:13

Yeah, well, his work does come up quite regularly at auction,

0:42:130:42:17

so we know reasonably clearly what this probably would make.

0:42:170:42:22

I think at auction now, he's very much in vogue.

0:42:220:42:26

He's very much sought-after - a lot of people collect him.

0:42:260:42:31

-Probably make between £70,000 and £90,000.

-Oh!

-So you should probably insure it for £100,000.

-Wow!

0:42:310:42:38

Thank you.

0:42:380:42:41

Almost like winning the lottery. Almost. £100,000 for insurance.

0:42:410:42:46

My first Roadshow. What luck to witness one of the great discoveries we make occasionally on this show.

0:42:480:42:55

And in such perfect surroundings!

0:42:550:42:58

We shall be back here later in the series,

0:42:580:43:01

when Paul Atterbury, who's setting up a new exhibition on the Victorians, opening here in April,

0:43:010:43:07

will tell me more about the history of this remarkable place. Until next week, goodbye.

0:43:070:43:13

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