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This week we're in Salford, a busy city alongside Manchester, but with a character and history of its own, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:40 | |
and evidence of a great pioneering spirit. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
Here at Worsley, the Duke of Bridgewater established the world's first canal independent of a river. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:50 | |
It carried coal to workplaces five miles to the south-east. The cost - four pence a hundredweight. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:57 | |
An ambitious enterprise, it reduced the price of coal | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
and helped industry flourish in the north-west of England. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
More than a century later came another audacious scheme - the Manchester Ship Canal - | 0:01:05 | 0:01:11 | |
one of the Victorians' greatest engineering projects. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
It meant that ocean-going vessels could travel 35 miles inland from Merseyside. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:21 | |
From their opening in 1894, Salford docks were amongst the busiest in Britain. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:27 | |
But in the 1970s, the patterns of commerce changed, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
containers took over, the docks declined. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
And so the city of Salford turned its face to the future. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
They'd already been the first municipal authority to have a museum and a library, 150 years ago, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:44 | |
and now they've built the massive and stylish Lowry Arts Centre | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
on the apex of one of the old wharves. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
Inside, with its array of theatres and galleries, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
the jewel in the crown - the works of Salford's most famous citizen. | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
Lawrence Stephen Lowry was born in 1887. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
He began developing his evocative but controversial style between the two world wars. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:09 | |
The art establishment was slow to appreciate him. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
Lowry worked as a rent collector and in his spare time created images of an urban life | 0:02:13 | 0:02:19 | |
that has now disappeared. The public grew to love his unmistakable pictures. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
His matchstick people even inspired a pop song. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
# Now he takes his brush and he waits | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
# Outside them factory gates | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
# To paint his matchstalk men and matchstalk cats and dogs... # | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
These exhibits reaffirm Lowry as one of the most distinctive artists Britain has ever produced. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:45 | |
You may recall that this example came to light when the Antiques Roadshow visited Oldham a year ago. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:52 | |
He'd given it to his driver. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Lowry used Peel Park as a setting for many of his pictures. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Today, a new generation of the people of Salford are heading to the university | 0:03:00 | 0:03:06 | |
which is hosting this week's Roadshow. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
These are fun things. They are candle extinguishers, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
for putting out a candle. Made by Royal Worcester round about 1950, 1952, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:20 | |
-just post Second World War. -Yes. -Yes, have you had them a long time? | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
-About 25 years. -Mmm, and what did you pay for them? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
-There was a little black boy as well. -Mmm. -I gave £7.50 for the three. -For the three things? -Mmm. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:36 | |
-So less than £7.50 for these two? -Yes. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
They're jolly nice. This is a monk. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
He's wearing his brown habit, and he's reading his book. He's great. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
-And the mandarin from China... -Yes. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
He's a wonderful yellow and orange with a black hat. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
-I think he's tremendous. They're very collectable now. -Yes. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
Your £7.50 has gone up a bit. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
I suppose the monk's going to be £150 or £200 | 0:04:00 | 0:04:06 | |
-and the mandarin's going to be around about £250. -Oh... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
-So you've got two jolly nice things there. -Lovely. -Happy about that? -Yes. -Well happy. -A lot more. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:18 | |
But this is terribly interesting. This is Minton, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
and absolutely marvellous, How did you come by this? | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
-My father bought it for my mother 66 years ago. -Yes. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
-And he gave two pound ten shillings out of a second-hand shop. -Two pounds ten shillings? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
-That, back then, was quite a lot of money. -Yes. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
My mother wouldn't buy it because it was too dear, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
and my dad went back and bought it. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
I think it's great. They're Chinese, I suppose, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
-in a kind of a boat. -Yes. -It's almost like a European gondola | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
because it's made in England. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
And it is quite an extraordinary little piece. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
The whole structure of it is tremendous fun, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
you know, these little chaps rowing their boat along | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
and he's got a fan just like this mandarin. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
Incredible how similar these are, yet this is almost 100 years earlier | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
-than these extinguishers. Somewhere about the 1870s - 1875, say. -Yeah. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
I think it's quite extraordinary. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-Modelled by a man called Henk and they're fairly rare. -Oh. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
-Have you had them insured or valued? -I had it valued, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
er...and he told me £400. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-£400. -Mmm, about six months ago. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
I think that's probably a little low. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
Because of its rarity, I think you're probably looking at £1,000 | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
-or £1,200. -Oh, a lot more than I thought. -So that's... -A lot more, yes. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:51 | |
-From two pounds ten shillings... -Ten shillings. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
-That's a decent price. -A good buy. -Yes. -But more important than that, you like it? | 0:05:54 | 0:06:00 | |
-Yes. -It's a wonderful model. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Tremendous. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
Is there Russian blood in the family? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
No, not at all. My grandfather worked in Russia at the turn of the century. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
I think he spent about 4 or 5 years there, he was a mining engineer. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
-And he was an Englishman? -Yes. -And were they GIVEN to him originally? -No, I know that he bought this box, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:24 | |
which I assume is a cigarette box. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Yes. When did he leave Russia? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
It will have been at least 90, 92, 93 years ago. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
Yes, I see. That's interesting. And this one is interesting, too. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
It's a vesta case. Before the advent of the lighter, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
everybody had to carry matches. They were called "vestas". | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
They were impregnated with wax, and smoking, everybody did. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
This technique is called niello. A black sulphurous alloy | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
is laid into the surface of the silver, filling the engraving, | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
and then it's polished down to be brought flush with the surface. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
It's a very Russian technique. Lovely family history for you, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
-and £200 to £300 today. -Really? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
These cigarette cases are of a recognised type. It's not complete. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
There's a mysterious sort of hole. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
I wondered what it was. Do tell me. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
It used to contain a tinder which you could light from the matchbox. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
-You could take your matches out of here... -Yes. -..strike them on there, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
pull up the tinder with a silver pull here, light it, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
and then when the wind from Siberia was blowing hard, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
you'd pass it to your friends who'd light their cigarettes. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
-I see, really? -There was also a fashion | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
for covering cigarette boxes with these ciphers. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
They're souvenirs of the original owner. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
He was probably in connection with the imperial family on some level. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
We can tell that from these Romanov eagles that appear twice. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
I believe they're the tops of stick pins | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
that have been mounted onto this cigarette case. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
-Really? -And they meant a lot to him. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
-It dates from 1899 to 1908. -Really? -It's a rather good span. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
It would be important to the new Russian collectors. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
-Really? -So it's gone up... -Really? | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
-I was afraid it had gone down with the market opening. -No, on the contrary. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:35 | |
The Russians love to bid | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
at auction for their heritage, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
which they scorned at the time. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
I think probably if it turned up somewhere in a European sale | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
at which they were in attendance, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-£800, maybe £1,200, wouldn't be too much. -Really? Good heavens. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
Ralph Herbert Lord was a well-known Victorian photographer. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
-Yes, he was my great-grandfather. -Fascinating. With his wife there? -Yes, in Southport. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:04 | |
Here we have an album of his photographs. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
Yes, just the ones that he used to submit | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
-to exhibitions. -Right, OK, let's have a look at them. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
"An Idle Moment". What a wonderful evocation of late Victorian England. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
-It is, yes. He lived in Cambridge when he was doing photography. -Right. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:26 | |
-And of course a lot of the scenes are from Cambridge. -Of the fens, yes. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
Here, the farmer is having a brief respite from his ploughing | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
and talking to his wife. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Now... Oh, this is a famous photograph. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Yes, that's one of the ones | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-that won a gold medal at the Royal Photographic Society. -It's Neddy... | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
-"Neddy's New Shoes". -A terrific photograph. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
He was a wonderful artist. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
-Yes, yes. -Yeah. Here we've got one entitled "You Stupid Boy", | 0:09:53 | 0:09:59 | |
obviously a posed photograph. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
The master is about to clip the boy round the ear | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
for not getting his sums correct. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
These are platino-type photographs of large size, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
so he'd have needed to carry a lot of equipment. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Yes, that is the size of the plate, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
and he had a camera on the back of a cart. He had a horse and cart. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Oh, another well-known photograph. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
"How's That?". Marvellous condition. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
-You can see the old boy taking snuff. -That's right. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
And the other gentleman with the snuff box in his hand. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
And another one here - "Try Again". | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
-Are these superimposed? -They are, yes, and he put a pile of bricks here | 0:10:38 | 0:10:44 | |
-to make this shadow from the gentleman's leg. -Wonderful. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
His photographs appear at auction from time to time, and he is recognised as a very gifted artist. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:57 | |
-Nice to know. -Mmm, and I would think | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
that the value of this at auction probably lies | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
-in the region of £6,000 to £8,000. -Gosh! That's a total surprise. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
Just down the hall, the porcelain queue is over there and jewellery's just behind you. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:15 | |
-How many tickets do you reckon you have? -About 1,500. -1,500?! -Yes. -That's an astonishing collection. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:21 | |
-Yes. -Did it take long to collect? -About 20 years. -Amazing. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
-And when did you start collecting? -1959, when I started train spotting. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
And where have they all come from? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
Acquaintances swapping railwayana and various items of railway memorabilia. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
-You're fond of railways, obviously. -Yeah. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
Some of them are rather fascinating. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
-"One Dog", for example. -Yes. -Which is your favourite? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
-That one. 19... -That was YOUR ticket? -Yes. That station is closed now. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
-It's Manchester Central which is now the G-Mex Centre. -Really? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
It's a tremendous collection. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
How much have you paid for these tickets? | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Nothing. It's just things I've exchanged. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
-What do you reckon it's all worth? -I haven't a clue. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
There are a huge number of people | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
collecting railwayana these days, particularly tickets. There's a huge market. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:19 | |
I see the prices that they fetch. You'd be astounded by the prices... | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
-Really? -..that some tickets actually fetch. I would think that, um... | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
if you bought these through postal auctions today, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
-you'd have to pay around £2,000 to £3,000 for the collection. -Really? -Oh, yes. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:38 | |
-Well, you've got 1,500 tickets! -Yes. -It's a tremendous collection. I wish it were mine. -I'm gobsmacked. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:46 | |
-Thanks very much. -SMASH! | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
-What happened? -It's just...fell out of my hand. -"Fell out of my hand". | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
I have to tell you that, on every Roadshow, there is a crash and a client has dropped something. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:06 | |
The best packing material, if you can't get that plastic bubble stuff, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:12 | |
is newspaper. Well...you haven't ruined anything of any great merit. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
This was made in the 1950s | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
and it was worth, before you put paid to it, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-about £10 or £15. -Oh. -So, not quite the disaster it might have been, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
but sorry it happened. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Well, it used to hang in my father-in-law's office | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
and then my husband brought it home some years ago | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
and that's all I know about it. I don't know where it came from. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:45 | |
It's an enjoyable picture, isn't it? It actually breathes quality | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
and enthusiasm. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
He's an artist who was born in 1816, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
as it says on the mount, and died in 1869. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
He lived a fascinating life. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
He studied at the age of 23 under the East Anglian artist, James Stark, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
but the quality in depth | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
is amazing. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
-So many artists put everything in the front. -Right, yes. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
But this artist put things in depth | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
and his sense of depth is absolutely amazing. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
-And the colours are very good. -Indeed. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
It's slightly faded, very slightly, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
-but it hasn't been in direct sunlight, clearly. -It's been moved | 0:14:27 | 0:14:33 | |
-from the hall to another wall. -Yes. -Away from the sun. -I'm glad to hear that. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
-There is a little bit of staining here... -Yes. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
And also on the other side, and there is slight damage. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
-I noticed that when I was wrapping it up. -Those things | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
can be so easily repaired. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Erm... | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
It's truly a tremendous example of a river landscape | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
by one of our very best 19th-century watercolourists. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
-Now, value - have you ever had it valued? -No. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
-What would you think it's worth? -I think about £5,000. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
-Oh, no, no. -What would YOU think? -The thousand mark... | 0:15:14 | 0:15:20 | |
-I don't know. -Well, you're nearer it. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
-It is certainly about £5,000... -Yes. -..to about £7,000. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:29 | |
-On a good day, maybe up to ten. -Gosh. -And going up all the time. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
-Yes, as long as you keep it out of the sun and look after it. -Mmm. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
My grandfather was a soldier in the Boer War | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
and when he came home in 1902 he brought this collection home, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
and I understand that it was a Zulu wedding dress. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
-Whether it was or not, I don't know. -That is fascinating, but what about the photographs? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:59 | |
The photographs were never seen by the children or the grandchildren. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
They were kept in a brown envelope. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
It was only these last few years that they came to light. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
-Really? Only just... -Six years ago. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
-And do you think your grandfather took the photographs? -I doubt it. -I doubt it. -No. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:19 | |
This is absolutely fascinating for me, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
to see... this is how they wore their beads. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
We see beads on the Roadshow, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
but we don't know where they were meant to be put, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
so this is a wonderful record of a Zulu wedding outfit, if you like. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
Now, we've got three of these. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
That's probably the best one. They are fading a little bit. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
They have got a little bit of discolouration. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
But the fact that we've got three here, different girls... | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
This one's a bit more faded. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
All wearing this particular wedding dress which they've made themselves | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
out of the beads that they would have. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
This one's again a bit faded, got a back view here - bare bottoms. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
This is one of the little fringes | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
that was worn by these girls, in the front, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
It goes round the waist | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
and hangs in front, very delicately | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
and charmingly. It's in fantastic condition. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-It is absolutely mint... -Yes. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
It might have been worn once and that's it. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
And then you've got what they wore round their necks. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
Again, you'd wear it how she was doing it, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
round there, a lot of work in that to make it round. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:47 | |
If you've ever done bead-work, it's a labour of love. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
And this one, a bit longer, also to go round the neck, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
and this here, which goes round quite a small waist. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
So although that lovely lady looks buxom, she had a small waist. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
Here we have what the men would have worn. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
-Ah, right. -It's a pity we don't have the men in the photographs. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
What I love about them is... | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
they're the same colouring on the one side, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
and on the other side... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
it's completely different. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
So it's double. They could wear them back to front and inside out. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:33 | |
And superb condition. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
If only we could see the couple wearing these, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
it would be wonderful, wouldn't it? | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
Now Zulu bead-work | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
from that time, from the 1900s, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
is now very popular. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
It's become a popular collecting field in this country. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
-Have you ever had it valued? -No. -No, it's the first time | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
it's been taken out of the cabinet to our knowledge. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
It's difficult to put a price on it, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
but the photographs themselves have a value in their own right. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
Those, I would say, could be worth | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
-as much as £80 to £100 each. -The photographs? -They are very special. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:20 | |
The beads, altogether, I suppose we could be talking about £500. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
-I'm amazed! -It's amazing! | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
I thought my uncle brought it back from WWII when he was in Thailand, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:35 | |
but only recently did I find out from my auntie | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
-that it came from Farnworth Co-operative Society. -In England?! | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
-He's an ENGLISH dragon. -Yes. -He looks madly Oriental. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
The mark on the back is Charlotte Rhead, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
the great potter in Stoke-on-Trent, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
who developed an incredible system of what's called tube lining. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
That is, out of a tube, you squeeze clay | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
to make a pattern, of the dragon and all these decorations here, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
and then the girls in the factory | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
would fill it up very carefully. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
So you've got a raised pattern filled up with this... | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
He's English, but I can understand somebody thinking he was Chinese! | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
But this is purely English style, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
all this decoration. I suppose in date, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
1930 would be a good date for that. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
A fine tube-lined Charlotte Rhead dish like this | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
is more than something from the Far East at that time. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
-We must be looking at £300 or £400. -Oh, right. -It's a jolly nice piece. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
-Yes. -So enjoy it as an ENGLISH dragon. -Yes, we will. -Thank you. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
-I bought this brooch at an auction room in Melbourne. -In Australia? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
Yes, I think about two years ago. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
How do you come to bring it to us, then, here? | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
I'm going to a wedding in Ireland of the son of an Australian friend. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
Alison, my friend, had said she might be coming to the Antiques Roadshow | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
in the few days I was spending with her in Manchester. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
Then a friend jokingly said, "Sue, if you get on the Antiques Roadshow while you're in England, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:21 | |
-"we can watch you on TV in Australia." -And they can. -They can indeed. -What a happy ending, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:28 | |
except that it has to be looked at by an expert. Geoffrey Munn is the man. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:34 | |
"Best of luck to you in the future, sincerely... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
-"Elvis Presley". -Yes. -How did you come by this? | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
-Back in 1959 when I was young... -Yes. -..um, I wrote to him. -Yeah. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
When he was in the army in Germany, like you do when you're young... | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
-Were you a great fan? -Oh, yeah, loved him, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
and I just pleaded with him for a reply. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Well, it's dated 1959, so... | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
-he would have been about 25, and doing his National Service. -Yes. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
-I was over the moon. -I bet. -That's why it's tatty. -Is this a teardrop? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
Were you so excited that you started crying? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
-No, it was in my drawer for years and perfume spilt on it. -Oh, is it? -Yes. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
But this, it came apart | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
from opening it to show people. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
There's a good market in rock'n'roll memorabilia and, after the Beatles, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:31 | |
Elvis is the most collected. This has a wonderful history, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
and I don't suppose you'd sell it. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
-No. -No, absolutely, hang on to it. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
But, despite its condition, if this came up at auction, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
-it would probably fetch, I suspect, £500 or £600. -Yes. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
-Thank you, and long live the King. -Yes. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
These intrigue me. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
I can't say I've come across any by this particular maker before. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
-Patrick Leonard. As far as I know, he's the only chap who ever worked in Salford in silver. -Yes. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:06 | |
You're looking at £100 plus, and similar with the dessertspoon. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:11 | |
I've never come across his work before, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
so I think you've cornered the market in Patrick Leonard. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
-They've been in our family since 1916, so my mother says. -Right. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
And they were bought at Kenwood in Manchester for five guineas, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
and that's as far as I know and what my mother tells me. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
-OK, I know we're talking local. -Yes. -We're talking Lancastrian pottery, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
Pilkingtons Royal Lancastrian pottery. Place of manufacture is... | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
-How many miles are we from Swinton? -About four miles. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
-We live about ten minutes' walk away from where these vases were made. -OK. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
Now, I've seen a mark there that's slightly different. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
I know that this mark was brought in about 1914. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
The early mark is a large P | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
with two bees climbing around it, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
but the mark that we've got here is the Lancastrian rose. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
What makes it interesting is that it's got the date. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
In this case, I'm reading on this one either 1916 or 1918, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
and you know, I've got to say, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
I've not seen a piece dated like this before. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
-We think it's '16. -1916? That would make sense. -Yes, yes. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
-Let's face it, five guineas EACH - that's a tidy sum. -Yes, it was. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
Anyway, let's look at the pots. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Firstly, a nice shape, nice Chinese shape, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
often referred to as a Meiping shape, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
this lovely elegant shoulder form. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
One thing that Pilkingtons really did master was lustre decoration. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
The lustre is... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
is nicely done, but I've got to say that it hasn't fired 100% perfect, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
but the fish - they're quite magic. There's a sense of movement there. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
-Yes. -But again, the lustre... | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
-I don't think it's taken 100%. -Oh, right. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
And this is what collectors are looking for. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
I'm happy to say that, from a collectability point of view, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
-they are desirable. -Desirable. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
This fellow, I would suspect, is probably around about £400, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:31 | |
-whereas the fish, a little bit more desirable. -Yes. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
I think you're looking in the region of about £600, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
but I would stress | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
-that had the actual lustre decoration been stronger... -Right. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
-..you could probably add at least 50% onto those figures. -Oh, right. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
This is a platinum-mounted, Ceylon-sapphire and diamond brooch. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
It's not so much the quality of the stones that's of interest here. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
It's the expression of the Art Deco style. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
There's a whiff of Japanese ornament in here, perhaps Chinese ornament, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
which the Art Deco jewellers took on board, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
-so one's jolly pleased to see it. Do you know Selfridges? -Yes. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
There used to be an Art Deco lift in Selfridges | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
and, in a way, the same decorative sources have been used | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
in this piece of jewellery. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
They are Ceylon sapphires. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
They're paler than perhaps one might have wanted. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
The pure cornflower blue is the colour that one looks for. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
This is not of the intensity | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
to send the value through the roof, but a very beautiful object nonetheless. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
These stones have probably been CUT in Ceylon because, at the back here, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
-there's a sort of asymmetrical point. -Yes. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
It veers to the right in the centre stone | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
which is a clue that these stones were cut in the Orient, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
and by a less sophisticated lapidary than one might have found in Europe. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
So, you're at the auction, your heart pounding. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
-So, how far did you go? -3,800 or 4,000 Australian dollars. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:18 | |
-So...£1,250? -Something like that, I think, yes. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
Well, I think that was a very good move. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
I think it would be jolly difficult to find this brooch for £1,250. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
I think double that, so very clever to have chosen it | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
-and jolly nice of you to bring it over. -Thank you. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
I bought it at an auction three years ago with a small legacy from my aunt | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
-and it reminded me of my little boy's face. -How nice. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
Did you, when you got your legacy, think, "I must buy a painting of a mother and child..."? | 0:27:49 | 0:27:56 | |
Yes, and my aunt was very fond of children and couldn't have any of her own, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:02 | |
so it seemed very appropriate to remember her by | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
-as well as being pertinent to my situation. -Yes. How very nice. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
I think it's a charming painting and it's interesting... It's painted by this artist, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:18 | |
Eugene Le Roux, in the 19th century. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
But it reminds me of an earlier French artist, Chardin | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
and there was an exhibition recently of his work, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
even figures wearing rather similar caps, and these famous still lifes. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
We have a beautiful still life in the background. He's been clever | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
in the way that it's beautifully painted | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
and exists on its own but doesn't detract from the main figures. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:49 | |
Returning to the signature, it's interesting because just below it, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
beneath a layer of paint, is his signature again and a date, 1869. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
I think that's probably drawn in with black chalk or a pencil. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:05 | |
That's a kind of interesting bit of detail, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
and why that happened, I don't really know. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
-Can I ask how much you paid? -I paid £2,000. -That doesn't seem a great price for such a beautiful picture. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:19 | |
I don't think it's an extraordinary value | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
but I think this painting is probably worth £3,000, £4,000. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
I think to be able to get a painting of this quality | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
-for that kind of figure is extremely good value. -Terrific, yes. -Thank you for bringing it in. -Thanks. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:40 | |
They came from my mother's house and my mother died recently | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
and we had to dispose of the contents of the house. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
At the last week that we were finishing the removal, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
we had the hospice van come to take the remaining goods away and my friend, Yvonne, said, | 0:29:54 | 0:30:01 | |
-"How much do you think they're worth? I think you're going to be surprised". -Well done, Yvonne. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:08 | |
-Do you know what they are at all? -Well... -Did you look? -Yvonne turned them over | 0:30:08 | 0:30:14 | |
-and said, "There is a signature on the bottom." -OK. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
-Hannah Barlow. -Hannah Barlow. -Hannah B Barlow, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
one of the two Barlow sisters. She had a sister Florence, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
and they worked at the Doulton factory in Lambeth. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
They went to Lambeth Art School and both did this style of decoration, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
that is scraffito, scratching into the glaze | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
to produce the design. Eventually they came to an arrangement | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
that Florence would do the birds and Hannah would do the animals. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
These are relatively early. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
We've got her monogram here. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
We've got ES. That stands for Eliza Simmons, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
and she was responsible | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
for all the rest of the decoration. Then we've got the Doulton rosette mark, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:10 | |
and the word "England", | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
but it doesn't say "Royal Doulton", it says "Doulton", | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
so it's before 1901 | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
and after 1891, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
so we can date it pretty precisely, 1895 there and abouts. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
Cows, she did quite a lot. We see a lot of them, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
but this size of vase is actually quite uncommon. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
They're a splendid pair in really remarkable condition. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
We've just got one small chip there. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
It's made a difference to the price but not an awful lot. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
Yvonne has done you a favour because they're now worth close on £2,000. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
-Oh... Thank you very much. Goodness! -Happy? -Very. Excellent. -Good. Thank you very much. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:58 | |
-The Rembrandt Hotel? -Yeah, Tony Warren and a lot of these people | 0:31:59 | 0:32:05 | |
have been drinking in there. This ended up in the cellar and I found it behind rubbish. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:12 | |
-So you saved it? -Yeah. The bloke who owns it, Peter, wanted to throw it out | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
so I said I'd bring it along today. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
Each photo is personally signed, and Elizabeth Dawn | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
has signed "The Rembrandt Hotel" so it's a unique set of signatures. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:30 | |
-I'd have thought to a true fan, it'd be worth £300-£400. -Quite good. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
They might take more care of it and not throw it in the cellar. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
This is a remarkable piece of work - | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
an early draft manuscript of Stephen Hawking's A Brief History Of Time. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
Now, how did you get this? | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
I got it thanks to a geography teacher from school. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
I had a bad accident whilst I was doing my A levels at school. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:57 | |
It turned out my geography teacher had gone to school with Prof Hawking | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
and so I wrote to him to ask Prof Hawking to write to me... | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
to encourage me to perhaps carry on and go to university and things | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
and this is what I received back - | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
his original sort of script for his famous book, the best bit being that he hadn't quite finished it | 0:33:15 | 0:33:23 | |
and he wrote his last page... | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
handwritten at the end. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
He's saying at the end that he hopes... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
He'd be disappointed if there wasn't an ultimate theory | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
to the end of the universe, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
unified theory. He thinks somebody will get there in the end. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
Did you go on and get your degree? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
I did, but not from Cambridge, not quite as smart as him. I got my physics degree at York. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:52 | |
-Fair enough. This is a treasure. -For a physicist, it's great, yes. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
You've got beautiful illumination here, | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
-done, I'd say, turn of the century by Alan Tabor. -That's right. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
-My father-in-law. -Not a name I know and yet this is... | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
No, he was fairly local in Manchester and Salford mostly. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
He worked for Manchester Corporation and Salford. He started as a tailor, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:20 | |
-I believe. -Did he? -Cross-legged, sewing, and didn't like it very much, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
and he'd go to the British Museum and copy the manuscripts. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
-These were done at the practice. -Really? | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Then he set up in business and did scrolls and things | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
-for presentations to famous people. -Excellent quality. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
-I'm amazed that this is amateur work. -Yes, he was amazing. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
We have here a Longfellow - The Bridge - in lovely red morocco, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
and Gray's Elegy, done in 1914. How old would he have been then? | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
He married in 1912 when he was about 23. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
It's beautiful work, I must say, and executed in vellum | 0:35:02 | 0:35:08 | |
-with marvellous historiations of birds and roses. -That's right. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
-Absolutely sensational. -Yeah, and the gold leaf too which has lasted. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
Well, I must say I'm most impressed. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
-They are really top-quality objects. -They're beautiful, aren't they? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
They're beautifully bound, especially this Gray's Elegy | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
-which is a lovely job. Have you had them valued? -No. I've often wondered | 0:35:30 | 0:35:36 | |
about the value, not that they'd be sold. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
-They're family heirlooms. -Yes, quite. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
I think at auction today you would have to expect this group | 0:35:42 | 0:35:48 | |
to command a figure something in the region of £5,000 to £6,000 | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
-for the four. -For four? The three... -Yes. -Wow. Gosh. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
My husband bought them. He had a good eye for antiques. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:06 | |
Yes. They are a cross between... | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
-They're wonderfully grotesque shapes here - the head. -Yes, yes. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
It's a cross between a dragon and a fish. They're dragon fish. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
They're leaping from these wonderful frothing waves. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
You get this idea of carp | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
jumping up the rapids to get to the other side, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
then they are transformed into a dragon. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
But I think it was in some way linked with passing exams - | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
you know, great heroic efforts and succeeding - | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
when the Chinese passed their exams in the civil service. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
-These actually are Japanese because the Japanese also made these... -Yes. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
So these are Japanese ivories | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
but very much influenced by a Chinese idea. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
I think the eyes... Aren't they fabulous? | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
-They are beautiful. -They're made of mother-of-pearl. -Are they really? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
As with all Japanese ivories of that period - the end of the last century - | 0:37:06 | 0:37:12 | |
the quality of carving is superb. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
If you look at details - the scales, around the mouth here, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
and what I referred to earlier, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
-these wonderful frothing waves. -Yes. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Typical Japanese work, craftsmanship at its best. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
-You paid £20 for them? -Yes, roughly. -That was about 30 or 40... -35 years, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
-40 years ago, yes. -Not so long ago. This was a fantastic find THEN. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
-It's not as though they were bought 100 years ago. -No. -They're now worth | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
-£1,000 to £1,500 I should think. -Very nice. -Isn't it? -Yes, very nice surprise. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:51 | |
I was bequeathed it by a maiden aunt of mine about three years ago | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
and she said, "I'm going to leave you this picture." | 0:37:57 | 0:38:02 | |
She had been left it by her boss in the civil service, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
-and she passed it on to me. -How nice. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
It's The Rebuilding Of Rylands. Tell me about Rylands. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
-Rylands is where Debenhams is now in Piccadilly, Manchester. -Yes. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
-The old building was knocked down and rebuilt. I presume it was about 1929. -Yes, the signature is here | 0:38:18 | 0:38:25 | |
-and the date - 1929. -And I think that's the work in progress. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
He has done other pictures, which we saw at the Lowry Gallery, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
showing the finished building. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
Talking about the subject of the picture, I think it is a very interesting composition | 0:38:37 | 0:38:44 | |
with all these girders, this building, the figures, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
and then almost a cliff face here with a train. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
It has lots of detail and activity, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
-and I like the way the whole sheet is full of information. -It is, yes. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
But of course, with many artists, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
-but particularly with Lowry, there are a lot of fakes. -Yes. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
We must be careful, but I would recommend to you that you check with the Lowry Centre | 0:39:07 | 0:39:13 | |
-to get their final opinion, but I think it's absolutely right. -Yes. -And there are other things, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:21 | |
supplementary details or bits of evidence which one must consider. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:26 | |
The nice ordinary oak moulding... | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
-That was the original frame. -Yes. And the mount here. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
-It's discoloured by light, all the impurities going into the drawing. -Yes. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:39 | |
I suppose in a way...it looks right, but it SMELLS right also. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
Now, I don't know if you've had it insured or... | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
No, we just have it on the ordinary household insurance. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
You'll have to change your thinking completely. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
It's difficult in a rising market, and still rising, | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
but what about £30,000? | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
-That's a bit more than we thought. -Thought it was worth £1,500 or something like that. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:09 | |
Well, earlier in my life, I was connected with the whaling industry. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:15 | |
I came across it in the early 1960s. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
I acquired it from an old merchant marine sailor. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
He told me that he'd got it from someone many years previously. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
I really can't tell you much more. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
It could have gone from one whaler | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
to another sailor and finally to you. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
These engraved whales' teeth are called scrimshaw | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
and they were done in the 19th century by whalers, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
probably on days when there were no whales to catch. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
We see many many replicas and reproductions, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
made from a plastic resin. One way to tell a replica from a real one | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
is that you can see right up inside the root of the tooth here, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
so this is absolutely genuine. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
What I like is that it's crudely decorated. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
Sometimes they're very detailed. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
This one is very crude and you can see some alterations. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
He must have had something in his hand, this chap, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
whose name is Jim Crow, and somebody's altered it slightly. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
And it's a great colour. The reproductions are very grey. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
This one's orange and yellow | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
all the way down to this tobacco colour at the bottom. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
It's a portrait of Jim Crow, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
and if you just turn it around, along here it says "Anne H Dean" | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
and the date, 1854. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
-Right. -And on the other side, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
there's this portrait of a merchantman or a man-of-war, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
but what's interesting is it's got the American flag. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
So maybe an American scrimshander did this. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
If it is, it's very desirable. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
Round here, it says, "Jim Crow for New York". | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
It could've been about his travels, maybe this was his girlfriend... | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
But it's an absolutely genuine, honest scrimshaw. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
-Have you had it valued before? -No, I haven't, actually. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
I did BUY it. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
It was something like £5, I think. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
-Quite honestly, it was... -£5, but a long time ago. -Yes, yes. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
A few years ago, this might've been worth £2,000-£3,000. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
There is a resurgence of interest in English and American folk art | 0:42:36 | 0:42:41 | |
-and today we'd expect it to fetch £6,000-£8,000. -Good gracious! | 0:42:41 | 0:42:46 | |
-Not a bad buy for £5. -Wow, that's... | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
-You've really astounded me there! -I love it. Thank you for bringing it in. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:55 | |
Wow. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
Thanks to the University of Salford for opening their doors to us today. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
I spoke to a man earlier who now owns the house where LS Lowry lived with his mother | 0:43:03 | 0:43:09 | |
and turned out his finest work. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
Sadly, his mother never enjoyed a single thing he ever painted. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
Until next week, from Salford, goodbye. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
Subtitles by Judith Simpson BBC Scotland 2001 | 0:43:38 | 0:43:43 |