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Today we're in a town which is proud to be the oldest in Shropshire | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
and perhaps even prouder to have had four names along the way. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:44 | |
The Romans had a name for it. The Saxons had theirs. The Normans called it something else. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:50 | |
It finally got a name that stuck - Whitchurch. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
The faces of this clock in the town centre lists all its titles | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
and it was made here by the oldest firm of clockmakers in the world - JB Joyce. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:04 | |
From Shropshire to Shanghai, Joyce's tower clocks have been keeping the world on time since 1690. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:10 | |
Business gathered momentum in the 19th century when the new railway system carried clock parts | 0:01:10 | 0:01:16 | |
all over Britain, together with the engineers to install them - quite often at railway stations. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:23 | |
One of the largest clocks ever made by JB Joyce was installed in the Shanghai Custom House in 1930. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:30 | |
The dials alone weigh one and a half tons, and the minute hand is 10 feet 6 inches long. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:36 | |
Turn the clock back to the end of the 14th century | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
and we find that dynamic Whitchurch character, John Talbot, the first Earl of Shrewsbury. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:45 | |
A man of action, he spent his life fighting the Welsh, the Irish, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
and, for 30 years, his favourite foe - the French. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
He fought Joan of Arc at the Siege of Orleans and held the Bastille, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
but was driven out and taken prisoner. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
Shakespeare depicted him in Henry VI, Part I as "the scourge of France, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
"the Talbot, so much fear'd, that with his name the mothers still their babies." | 0:02:05 | 0:02:12 | |
The old warrior fought on relentlessly into his 70s | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
and met a suitably heroic end in the final engagement of the Hundred Years War at Castignon. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
His heart was brought back here to Whitchurch and is buried under the church porch. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:27 | |
An ancestor of the great man founded the Sir John Talbot School | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
in a quest to cure youth of sloth and idleness, a noble ideal. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
It's still a seat of learning for Shropshire lads and lasses, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
and today for the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Hi, there. Tell me, did you have an uncle called Henry? | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
-Years ago? -Henry Wonnacott? -No, Henry Ford. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
-Oh, Henry Ford. -Yes. -Now, could be, yes. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
-Henry Ford, my mother's brother. -Your mother's brother? | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
-Yes. -Then that is your grandfather. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
-Oh, my Lord. -That is your great grandfather. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
-Yes. -That is MY father. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
-How extraordinary. -Now then... | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
"Ladies' old-fashioned shoes with 11 illustrations from originals." Whose was this book? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:18 | |
It belonged to my father, who spent all his working life in shoes. He acquired it, I know not where. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
Let's have a look and enjoy it. Here we go. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
"The following illustrations of old shoes | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
"are intended to preserve in an intelligent form what is fast crumbling into dust." | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
Here we start. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
"The shoe that belonged to Mary, Queen of Scots. Smallness of size, black satin..." | 0:03:37 | 0:03:44 | |
The quality of this colour printing is just remarkable, isn't it? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:50 | |
-Incredible, given the age of the book. -Exactly. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
And also the detail in the shoe itself with the stitching and so on. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:59 | |
Now we go on to Miss Langley, who lived in the reign of Charles II. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
-Ohhhh! I mean, I love shoes. -They're breathtaking. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
-They are, absolutely. -Beautiful. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
-And do you have a favourite? -Oh, I... There is a reference | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
to a Mrs Brown, who is unknown other than it was a Mrs Brown's shoe and I always think rather charming. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
-Here we go. Mrs Brown. -Mrs Brown. -"Nothing can be ascertained about Mrs Brown." Poor Mrs Brown! -I know. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:27 | |
The shoe was worn...it dates about the time of Queen Elizabeth. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
Well, that should be - oh, look at that. Fantastic. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
What I find particularly praiseworthy with this book | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
is the reason that somebody made it. It was expensive to commission a book with this quality of illustration. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:49 | |
Presumably they're a sort of lithograph type... | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
-Exactly, exactly, but it's surprising that somebody has looked at shoes in that way. -Yes, indeed. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:58 | |
Wonderful. Well, it is collectable. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
I have seen them in really good condition fetch as much as £500. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
-Really? -But I think one's got to be aware that there is a little bit of damage. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
-Indeed. -But even so, I would say, er... | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-between £300 and £500. -Is that so? Really? -At auction, yes. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Obviously, something happened to this drawer. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Has it been restored or is it a completely new one? | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
It was a new drawer made about... | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
in the 1990s when I had the whole piece of furniture restored. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
I was a bit alarmed at the price, actually. It cost me £100, just that little drawer. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
It's been beautifully made. Compare the dovetails. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
You've got the older one in this hand, slightly darker. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
It's had lots more wear and use and everything and it's been more exposed to the air and oxidised a bit. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:48 | |
They're both walnut sides and the colour of the - | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
300-year-old wood and the fairly recent cut of walnut, but it's very nicely made. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
The front was re-veneered as well? Oh yes, you can see. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
The difference in colour, jolly good cabinet working | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-and seems very reasonable to me. It's lovely. -Thank you. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
-What a lovely piece of furniture. -I inherited it from my mother in about 1985. -Right, right. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:14 | |
The probate value of it then was £4,000. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
And how long had she had it? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
She didn't have it for long because she inherited it from her aunt | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
who would have been born in the 1880s | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
and we think it's been in the family longer than that. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
It's called a secretaire chest or a secretaire chest on chest. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
-Chest on chest, I've heard. -This lovely writing desk, and what I like about this is when you close it up... | 0:06:35 | 0:06:41 | |
..you wouldn't know it was a secretaire, would you? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
-No. -You'd think it was just a chest on chest. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
-That's how I've heard it described. -Sometimes called a tallboy. -Yes. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
It's the most wonderful colour wood. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
The interior has burr elm with those finely pointed little burrs, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
but the outside is walnut - a lovely contrast, using indigenous English woods. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
So what date would you call this? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
The gentleman who restored it for me in the 1990s suggested George I... | 0:07:06 | 0:07:12 | |
Um...1720. 1715-1720. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Right, which I think is fair enough but it's very difficult for us to be sure. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:21 | |
-This is the high point of English cabinet making. -Mm-hm. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
There was not really a better time than this early Georgian period of making wonderful proportions. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:31 | |
There's something about the line and proportion of this | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
which is just perfect, the scale of it. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
It's all been done the hard way. No machinery. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
-Well, there wasn't any. -No, there WAS no machinery. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
One feature which lifts this above - apart from the glorious colour and patination - | 0:07:43 | 0:07:49 | |
is this canted side with these lovely fluted, reeded pilasters here and it leads down | 0:07:49 | 0:07:56 | |
to this marvellous - don't know what to call that - it's like a leaf or a tongue sticking out. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
-Mm. -Lovely shape. It's so simple, but what a difference it makes | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
to the piece - it lifts it into a new category of furniture. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
I'm very fond of it. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-An inherited piece and you had it valued at £4,000 for probate. -Yes. That was 1985. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
-What's the insurance figure on it at the moment? -£15,000, I think. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
-Fifteen? -I think so, yes. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
-I'm delighted to say that you're desperately under-insured. -Oh. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:29 | |
I think this would make easily at auction - easily between £20,000 and £30,000 | 0:08:29 | 0:08:35 | |
-and possibly even a bit more. -Goodness! | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
So if you wanted a proper insurance price on it, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
raise the 15 to at least £45,000 or £50,000. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
I've been collecting ever since I've been in the fire brigade, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
which has been 18 years - I collect fire memorabilia in general | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
but I just took a fancy to all the helmets. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
When it comes to value of these things, condition is important. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
I notice that this one in particular - | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
I mean, there's hardly a dent in it. Beautiful condition. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Now, one was sold in, um... only about four years ago | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
in mint condition. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
That made £500. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
But the most important one of all - | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
the chief's - and of course... | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
Liverpool... | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-it's got the Liver Bird on the top, so you're right down to A fire brigade, which is great. -Yes. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
So you're looking at £700, £800, even more. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:45 | |
-Well, I bought it actually in the 1950s. -Right. OK. What was it that attracted you to her? | 0:09:45 | 0:09:51 | |
She was just in an antique shop window where I worked opposite | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
and I used to look at her... | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
many days, and I thought, "I would like that." | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
She's so typical of the sort of 1920s, 1930s, and she's a very streamlined girl, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:10 | |
but the give-away from the sculptor's point of view are the legs. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
Because in all fairness, these legs go on for ever. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
When I see a figure like that, I think it's got to be Joseph Lorenzl, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
because all his ladies have got these long limbs. Not only the legs, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
but arms as well - very willowy maidens. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
The signature itself is down there | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
and I'm pleased to say it is obviously right as rain, but there are a few fakes around | 0:10:35 | 0:10:41 | |
because he's been making a bit of money - but before we talk about money, a nice base. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
Good onyx base. A lot of fakes fail because they've got very substandard bases. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:54 | |
Now this is obviously, you know, a good quality cast bronze. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
It's been given this silvered appearance but believe me, it is bronze. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
Again, if one looks at the face, this woman's got character. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
The hair's nicely finished, because every good bronze is finished by a chiseller, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:14 | |
who puts in the detail. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
So, back in the 1950s, how much did you pay for it? You can tell me. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:22 | |
-Dare I? -Yes, go on. -£25. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
-£25? -Which was a lot of money then. -It WAS a lot of money, so you really wanted her, didn't you? -I did. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
Well, I suppose if you wanted her today, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
you'd have to fork out a bit more. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
In fact, the last one I saw in a gallery | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
-was actually priced at £1,500. -Really? | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
I've seen some snapshots, but this beats the lot. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
a parade of Hollywood - whose is this? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
It belonged to my father, my late father, who died two years ago now. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
-It was his pride and joy. When anyone came to the house, they had to be shown. -What was his job? | 0:11:56 | 0:12:02 | |
He was a purser on the Queen Mary, just after the war. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
That explains why all these famous faces are here. Noel Coward, Charles Boyer, Paul Muni. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:12 | |
Snaps of the stars and your father with the stars - | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
"To Ray from Clark Gable" - not bad. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Not bad at all, no. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
It's a really interesting collection of English drinking glasses. Have you assembled it? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:27 | |
It was given to me by my mother and my late father. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
They both collected them over many, many years. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Well, we clearly haven't got time to go through the lot. They are - | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
with one or two exceptions - English, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
and - with one or two exceptions - | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
18th or 19th century in date. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
Many of them have got stems like these | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
which are either cotton twist, which is the white enamel, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
or air twist or mercury twist, which we've got here. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
If I feel this one... | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
that has been trimmed. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
It's quite common for dealers, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
when they're selling glass, if it's got a chip, to grind... | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
the whole of the rim to remove the chip. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
And, of course, as far as a collector is concerned, that's bad news. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
-This is - do you know what this is? -No. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
It's a rummer. Er...it's a corruption of the German word Roemer, which is... | 0:13:25 | 0:13:32 | |
a large drinking glass - nothing to do with rum. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
These were used for ale in the 18th century and into the 19th. Do you notice something about the glass? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:44 | |
-Isn't the colour a bit different from the others? -Very good. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
That's what a glass collector is looking at | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
and that's perfectly all right, but it is a very yellow glass and that will affect the price a bit. | 0:13:53 | 0:14:01 | |
Instead of, perhaps, being £85, it might be £65 because it's a bit yellow. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:08 | |
And finally, this one - that's a rhythm one. We call this rhythm when it goes round like that. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:15 | |
It's early 19th century and jolly nice. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
One like that today is somewhere in the region of £30 to £40, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:24 | |
something like that, but moving up. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Overall, it's a really very nice and interesting little collection. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:33 | |
My guess is - I haven't examined them in any detail - | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
is that you've probably got around | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
-£1,000 to £1,500 worth here. -Lovely. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
-Mother Goose. -That's right. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
S Carter. Now, I know who that is. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
That's Samuel John Carter. He's a Norfolk artist. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
He lived in Swaffham and he's an animal painter. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:01 | |
He's really particularly known for pictures of dogs and of puppies. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
-Particularly puppies. -Yes. -Can you tell me how you acquired it? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
Did you buy it...or inherit it? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Er, well, it was left to my father in 1952 | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
by his aunt, and then it came to me in 1969. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
Yes. Well, it's beautifully painted. I mean, Samuel Carter's not as famous an artist, let's say, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:26 | |
as Landseer or somebody like that - he's another late Victorian, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
charming painter of animals but wherever you look, the details are extremely good. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
-You know, the eyes... -The eyes. -Good. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
I love the way the little goslings are done and this chap standing up and flapping his wings. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
And also the landscape's nice, the river and the background | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
with all the detail there. A bit cracked. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
-Yes. -Here... | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
along this side, little bit cracked in the varnish but that's not too serious. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:59 | |
-I mean, really, I would recommend having this picture cleaned and taking the glass off. -Yes. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:05 | |
And the picture's signed as well, down here. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
Very faint and rather hard to see but it is signed, isn't it? SJ Carter. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
There's a date. Looks like 1888. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
This type of animal picture, obviously, is a very popular subject. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
Very saleable, I would say, in a sale... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
-£3,000 to £4,000. You should insure it for £5,000. -Yes. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:31 | |
-So, a charming thing. Thank you for bringing it. -Thank you. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
My husband bought them in the early '60s because we liked them. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
We paid £50 for them, which we thought was rather a lot in those days. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
-£50? -Yes. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Right, yes. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
First of all, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
the condition is absolutely stunning. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Everything is as crisp as the day it was made. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
The glass is just so sharp. Everything is just as you would want it be. | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
Finding a PAIR of claret jugs is unusual. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
-They turn up, but most often you simply find A claret jug. -Yes. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:12 | |
We've got a wonderful fruiting vine | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
spreading across the lid and the vines intertwined. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
You see how they just cross over and then go down into the base there. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
So often when you get something like this, it's been dulled with polishing over the... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
-Well, I've only cleaned it four times since I've had them. -Four times. Right. Have you used them? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:34 | |
-Not for wine, no. -No. What have you used them for? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
We have them where we can see them, in a glass case. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
-Right, just to enjoy. -Yes, yes. -Just to enjoy. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
Well, they're made in London and... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
we've got a date here of 1838... | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
but the maker - and really, it could not be better. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
-Oh. -The maker in this case is Paul Storr. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Oh, fabulous! I have heard of him! | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-Certainly a name to conjure with. -Yes. -One of the greatest, um... of the silversmiths | 0:18:02 | 0:18:08 | |
that has ever been, and it is an early date for claret jugs. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
-Oh. -They started to get going in the Regency period. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
You don't see many until you get a little later into the reign of Queen Victoria. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:22 | |
So we've got an absolutely top maker. We've got a pair. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
We should be looking at a value | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
of somewhere... | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
around £30,000 plus. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
What?! | 0:18:36 | 0:18:37 | |
Wow! That's fabulous. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
So, a little improvement on the £50. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
Oh, that's wonderful! I do wish my husband was here to hear that. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
We've got an 18th-century herbal - | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
"Primitive Physic", by John Wesley, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
but it's the 22nd edition so although it was printed in 1788, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
-it's a long way from a first edition and in that sort of condition, maybe worth £20 or something. -I see. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
We've got a teapot, a pewter teapot on a spirit stand. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
-It looks as if it has been through several world wars, frankly. -Yes. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:17 | |
-Well and truly bashed. That's worth about £20. -Right. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
I always liked to think it was a North American tomahawk. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
-Tomahawk pipe, of course. -Yes. -So this is the sort of thing they pass around in the wigwam. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:29 | |
-Like a peace thing? -You can call it a pipe of peace because it was used in a friendly situation. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:35 | |
If you smoke with the chief and other elders of the tribe, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
you are a friendly person and they called them a pipe of peace. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
-Ah, yes. -But this is a late one, around the latter part of the 19th century. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:49 | |
-I see. -The mouthpiece in here... | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
-This is made of bone. -I thought it might be. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
-I imagine it's been used quite extensively. -It looks it. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
It makes you wonder how it gets to England. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
That, to a collector today, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
would be worth something in the region of £750 and as much as £1,000. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:14 | |
-Would it really? Would it really? -Yes. -Ooh. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
Oh, yes, who's this down here? Oh, that's great, isn't it? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
-Lovely, isn't it? -What do you call him? -Twit. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Twit. Well, this is great. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
It's Austrian and cold painted bronze. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
We see quite a few of these but not usually of a sort of novelty type. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
It says "Bergmann" stamped on it and the wise old owl - Twit - | 0:20:32 | 0:20:38 | |
would sit on your desk | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
and you'd open up his lid like that and there would be not a piece of paper inside, but an inkwell. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:46 | |
-Twit's great, isn't he? -Lovely! -He dates from about 1870-1880. Something like that. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:52 | |
Right. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
And because it's novelty and nicely coloured and useful, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
-I think it would bring, at auction, about £400. -Oh, gosh! | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
-What else have you got? Let's have a look. -And in here we have this. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
Now, that is nice. Good. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
We don't really see that many rubies on the Roadshow. I don't know why. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
But for some reason, we always seem to get | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
three-stone rings set with sapphires and I've been waiting for someone to bring along | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
a really pretty ruby. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
These are brilliant cut diamonds. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
We've got a ruby in the centre and brilliants on each side. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
Look at the side of the mount - | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
all this very fine scrolling here | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
and then the claw settings here. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
I would date it round about 1900. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Burmese rubies are the best. I'm not sure it comes from Burma. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
It's probably from Thailand or maybe one of these countries | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
that also produce very good quality rubies, but that's a very sweet ring | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
and that's probably worth, in auction, £1,500 to £2,000. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
It's very sweet indeed. I like that. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
They're Irish turf buckets. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
They've been in our family for a long time. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
The family had settled in Ireland in the 1600s. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:16 | |
I believe that they came from the family property in County Laois, from Lauderdale House, um... | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
Probably mid-1700s but I'm not absolutely certain. Maybe you can... | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
Right. I don't think they're 18th century in the sense - well, not mid-1700s, anyway. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
The style of this, and really this wonderful ribbing here, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
is much more typical of the Regency period, so 1810-1820. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
And...Ireland being a little bit far away from the centre of fashion, perhaps even a little bit later. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:44 | |
-Certainly the early part of the 19th century. -Right. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
I don't know when they were made and I don't have any record in any of the family albums we've got. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:54 | |
Right, right, right. But I just love the way they're made. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
This coopering is fantastic. Just two very simple brass strands going right round, top and bottom, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:04 | |
holding what is a barrel, effectively, with these slats. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
They're just so wonderfully ribbed and they're strong. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
-They're almost what, three feet high? -About that, yes. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-We still use this one for logs. -For logs? -Yes. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
-Unfortunately we don't get much turf in this part of the world. -I'm just imagining these. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
Imagine a big hall of a big 18th-century classical house. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
-You'd need two of these to keep probably one fire going all evening. -I would think so. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:33 | |
I don't want you using those for logs because... | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
with the damage we've got here, this rather intricate and expensive restoration you've had done... | 0:23:36 | 0:23:43 | |
Absolutely, yes. Farmer's friend. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
-It's not difficult to restore. It looks dramatic but it's not difficult. -Would it be worthwhile? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
Yes. It's not a difficult job. It may show, but that doesn't matter. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
It's a wonderful part of Irish history - everything is Irish because this brass handle here is... | 0:23:55 | 0:24:02 | |
I'd like to think, if you showed me out of context, I'd say it's Irish. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
A sophisticated classical leaf moulding, but a little bit naive compared with top London makers. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:13 | |
And it adds to the charm. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Would it have been a rural craftsman that made these or would it just come out of a bigger city? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:22 | |
Oh, I think a bigger city. Probably Dublin, I think. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
They're a very sophisticated design and this swirling strong shape is a very smart London type design. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:33 | |
You get it on small objects and even turned legs and things like that, in London in the early 1800s. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:41 | |
But it's that Irishness which is important and the fact that | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
you've had them in the family since they were made - is fantastic. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
-I'd like to think so. -The Irishness is part of their value and the provenance helps a lot. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:54 | |
They're quite difficult to value. Have you got any preconceived ideas of the value? | 0:24:54 | 0:25:00 | |
Um...as a pair as they stand, um... | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
-£5,000 to 7,000, maybe? -Even in this condition? | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Yes. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
The market is not easy at the moment because... | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
But there are a lot of very wealthy | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
Irish people around, people with Irish connections around, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
who on a good market would pay, I think, a fantastically heavy price for this - | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
but the market conditions are a bit uncertain at the moment. And I'm going to have to be conservative. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
You said £5,000-£7,000. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
I certainly think they're worth £50,000. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
-Right. -And I think that is very conservative. -Right. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
On a good day, these are worth the price of a small house. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
I'm glad I'm holding on to it. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
-Yeah...thank you. -They're brilliant objects. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
It has been handed down generation after generation | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
-of my mother's side of the family. -Can you work out how many generations? | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
-I think it's about four greats. -So you know the lady that it belonged to? -Yes, yes. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
Do you know anything about her life or whether she was from this part of the world? | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
-I don't know her date of birth, but she did die in 1804. -Well, that's a help. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:20 | |
Let's just look at it and enjoy the treat - it really is a treat. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
The dress itself is made of a silk damask in this wonderful, vibrant emerald green, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:31 | |
which really has kept its colour incredibly. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
There's no fading on it. It's almost as fresh as the day that it was made. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:42 | |
I would have thought it could well be French damask | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
because it wasn't until 1766 | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
that there was an import control put on the importation of French silks, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:55 | |
so it could well be a French silk damask. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
It's called an open robe and here we have the open robe. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
What we're looking at underneath is a sort of everyday, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
the quilted underskirt that would be worn with it, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
with embroidery that's almost reminiscent of quite sort of simple Indian embroidery. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:18 | |
There was quite a lot of Indian influence at this time with the, um...East India Company. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:24 | |
All the sort of motifs, the Indian motifs were coming back and being used. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:30 | |
I'd like to turn it round and have a look at the back here. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
We've got such a very attractive darted back | 0:27:34 | 0:27:40 | |
into this narrow seamed section here | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
and then out into a really quite full train at the back. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
Very handsome. So often with these, you find | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
that if they've been in the family for any length of time at all, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:59 | |
they end up in the dressing-up box | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
and very often then cut down and used for fancy dress parties and so on. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
This has seemed to have managed to escape that fate, and to have survived | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
with the central section here, the stomacher, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
such wonderful quality of stitchwork with this silver thread. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
-Do you know how long it took? -Months. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
Years, probably, but you can imagine a girl working on that for a special occasion. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
Do you have any idea when this might have been worn? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
It was thought to have been made for her to have tea with the Queen. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
Tea with the Queen! How wonderful! | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
-Well, it's grand enough, isn't it? -I think...that, I can't confirm. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:46 | |
-No. Oh, well. -That is why it was supposed to be so special. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
Such a splendid gown, fit for tea with the Queen. Today, when we're talking about value, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:56 | |
I would have thought we're talking in the £2,000 to £3,000 price range. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:02 | |
It's very handsome indeed. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
Well, I bought it about, um...1970. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
-Yes. -From my chiropodist in Shrewsbury who... | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
-From your chiropodist? -Yes. -How wonderful! -He sort of did paintings as a sideline. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:19 | |
-He had paintings on the wall while he was cutting up your feet? -So you could look at them. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:25 | |
-Did he threaten to cut your toe off if you didn't buy one? -No, but I was so taken with it that I... | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
I've always been very fond of sheep and so I bought it for £22. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
Well, they were really great, these Victorian sheep painters. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
Thomas Sidney Cooper, who did this, was a pupil of Eugene Verboeckhoven, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
-also a great sheep painter. -Was he Dutch? -He was Belgian, actually. -Belgian, yes. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
There's this wonderful story - | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
that a collector had been saving up for many, many years to buy a Verboeckhoven, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:57 | |
and he went to Verboeckhoven's studio with 1,000 guilders in his pocket | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
and was told that the picture he was looking at, which he very much liked and which showed four sheep, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:08 | |
was 1,200 guilders, so he couldn't afford it. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
But Verboeckhoven took pity on him and said, "I'll give you it for 1,000 | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
"but I'll have to do one thing." | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
He painted out one of the sheep so there were only three in the picture, so he could afford it. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
I see! | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
So this is the sort of background that Thomas Sidney Cooper came from. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
I mean, he was the most sought after painter of sheep in England in the Victorian era. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:37 | |
And it's in very good preservation. The colours are still there, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
the sheep are nicely arranged. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
-It's a very good late Cooper watercolour. -Oh, very good. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
-Very pleased to hear it. -Are you a farmer? -Yes, always been farming in Shropshire. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
So, the sheep is a nice thing to have on the wall for a farmer. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
-We didn't have sheep. We were dairy. -Right. -But I've always been fond of sheep. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
Right, well, it's a jolly nice one and I would have thought that at auction, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
it would be worth between £1,500 and £2,000, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
and insure it for £3,000 - is that more than you paid at the chiropodist? | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
Yes, that was £22, so we've done all right, haven't we? | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
-£22. Well done. -That's only about the price of having your feet done now, isn't it? -Right, yes. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
Why would a stool - which is what it appears to be - have a hole in the middle? | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
It's not a stool. It's actually a very old cheese press, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
which would have been used in the agriculture industry when the cheeses were put in the moulds. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:38 | |
It would have been put on that with a weight on top | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
and the residues would have drained through the hole in the bottom - the whey. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
How did you find out what it was? | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
-I knew what it was, because we've got more modern versions of it around the farm. -Ah. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:54 | |
Sort of being as we made cheese years ago, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
I presume it was probably used originally in the farmhouse. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
-My parents collected them. -Right. -Mum and Dad. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
-Then we inherited them, you see. -So, I mean, what an inheritance! | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
Where does one start with a group like this? | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
This is absolutely super - the card case. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
Card cases are terribly collectable today and the most collectable are those with scenes on them. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:25 | |
Palace of Westminster is quite a rare one. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
Let's see who we've got as a maker on this one. It should be - yes, it is - Nathaniel Mills. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:36 | |
He is the maker you want as well, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:37 | |
so your parents were obviously really quite discerning in their collecting. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:43 | |
Have you had any thoughts on values on any of them? | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Um...I realised some are more valuable than the others. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
That's certainly very true. That, on its own, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
I would expect to be going for about £1,000 - £1,500. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
-For that one? -For that one, yes. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
That - help! It's rattling! | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
There's more! | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
Right, yes, it does, yes - it's... | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
how many of these have you got? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
We've never counted them. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
So, I mean this snuff box is a wonderful, wonderful snuff box, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
the casket form - and see, the sides are sort of bulging - | 0:33:20 | 0:33:25 | |
The most beautiful mounts there. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
I bet you this one's Mills as well. Yes, it is. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
So...and Mills, of course, working in Birmingham. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
Date-wise, around the 1830s. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
But a box like that, again... | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
you've got to be talking in excess of £1,000 - for that quality of box. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:49 | |
And they're not all of quite the same quality. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
That one is going a little bit down-market, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
but a box like that, you could easily be talking £300 - £400 or so... | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
and...where do we go from there? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
They belonged to my wife's mother | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
and it was her father, Richard Maddox, who was quite a well-known book collector of the '50s, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:15 | |
who actually collected these, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
but he was also a personal friend of Shaw because we believe his wife was... | 0:34:18 | 0:34:24 | |
lived locally, and that's how the association started. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
We've got a card which is great fun, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
because he says, "Gracious, you call that a small cheese?" | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
-He must have sent them a rather large one. -He must have done. -That's right. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:42 | |
"What must your big ones be like? It will last for the rest of our lives. Our best thanks." | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
"The 27th is a Wednesday, and there will be a matinee. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
"Would you drop a card to my secretary to say whether you prefer matinee or evening?" | 0:34:50 | 0:34:56 | |
This is dated 10th November 1929 and here is a picture of Shaw in 1931. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:02 | |
That's it. He'd just come back from Russia, it said, didn't it? | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
He was a bit of a socialist so he'd obviously gone to Russia | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
and was impressed with how they did things in Russia, because... | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
-it was one of the things of his life, wasn't it, socialism? -Yes. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
He was a very important thinker and that's how people remember him, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
as well as being a leading dramatist. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
-His socialism, his vegetarianism - interesting in the light of the cheese! -Yes! | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
Perhaps he felt he had to eat a lot of cheese! | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
-He was also very keen on language. He really wanted to revise the alphabet. -Did he? | 0:35:34 | 0:35:40 | |
-That was one of his obsessions - with words. -Yes. -And here, Miss Patch, his secretary - | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
"Your letter's been forwarded to me. I've not seen Mr Shaw since he got back from Russia | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
"and I do not think he will be back in London until September. Thank you for the offer of cheese." | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
So he was still - he must have eaten more than the one, mustn't he? | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
-He must have had a regular supply. -A regular supply, yes. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
These are first editions of Shaw's books. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
-That's right. -And I see from up the front... | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
That is the oldest, isn't it? | 0:36:11 | 0:36:12 | |
-This is 1924 and I see from the front that this is also inscribed to our Mr Richard Maddox. -That's right. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:20 | |
By George Bernard Shaw on 24th November 1933. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:25 | |
-That's right. -Shaw died in 1950, so this was towards the end of his life and it's quite interesting | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
that he signed this book later, as if it was a token of friendship. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
-That's right. -The others are signed as well, are they? -Yes. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
I would imagine that on the market, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
they might be worth between £2,500 and £3,500 for all three copies, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
-inscribed, and the cards. -Ah, so that's very nice. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
-Very nice indeed. Thank you very much for bringing it. -Thank you. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
This one is unusual, with the agate set into the lid, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
Let's see what this one's about. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
-Ah, it gets better, actually. -Good! -It's unusual, with the agate set into the lid. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
It's an 18th century box in this case but it's actually Newcastle and you don't see many Newcastle snuff boxes | 0:37:05 | 0:37:11 | |
so that's quite a rarity. That one, I would have thought, maybe £700 - £800. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:17 | |
The vinaigrette... | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
um...Windsor Castle - that is highly sought after, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
and again, I bet it's got to be Mills. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Let's just see where we are. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
Yes, Nathaniel Mills and again you're looking at the best part of £1,000 on that. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
-Just for a tiny little box like that? -Tiny little box like that. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
Ah. Yes. Now, that is quite an exceptional grille. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
Let's see the maker. It's Mills. Oh, it gets better and better. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
I've never seen that form of grille before. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
That, just as it is, with an engine-turned top by Mills around 1830 or so, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:58 | |
would be about £150 to £200, maybe, but with that, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:04 | |
it's going to be certainly in excess of £500. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
Well, it's been in my possession a good many years | 0:38:08 | 0:38:14 | |
and I wanted to find out more about the origins of this type of vase. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
OK, well. It was made in Austria and is quite typical of the type of art pottery | 0:38:18 | 0:38:26 | |
that was coming out of Austria in and around 1895-1905, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:33 | |
that turn of the century period, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
because this is an Austrian interpretation of Art Nouveau. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
-I understand. -If you look at this glaze here, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
it's just very gently lustred, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
and also in this web design you've got more of this lustring. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:49 | |
It's something that you find on glass of the period. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
-Yes. -In Loetz, the glassworks are making iridescent glass, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:57 | |
-in America, Tiffany is making iridescent glass and... -What can you tell me about these? | 0:38:57 | 0:39:04 | |
These little jewels, these little cabochons are ceramic. OK? | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
They're part of the design and there is every possibility that in the make-up they've been applied. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:14 | |
It is, as we can see, a spider's web and beneath that we've got this frieze of moths, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:21 | |
some of which are pendant, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
they've been entangled and they're suspended from the web. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
The actual decoration is moulded in low relief and it's heightened with gilt | 0:39:28 | 0:39:34 | |
and then the actual moths themselves | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
are sort of highlighted and detailed in this very fine gilt slip. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:43 | |
It just adds that extra jewel-like quality to it. As for the maker... | 0:39:43 | 0:39:50 | |
If we look underneath we find a mark that says "Made in Austria". There are some initials there. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:57 | |
-And they're R, S, T & K. -Yes. -Now that is for a firm | 0:39:57 | 0:40:03 | |
-called Reissner, Stellmacher and Kessel. -I see. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
OK? Um, now there's another mark... | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
which is very indistinct, which is impressed, but I can tell you that should read "Amphora". | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
This was the range of wares that Reissner, Stellmacher and Kessel were making at that time. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:22 | |
It's the sort of vase that an Art Nouveau collector would be very happy to own. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:28 | |
Um, I suppose... | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
The burning question is - how much would they have to pay for it? | 0:40:30 | 0:40:36 | |
I think that if they were to go to a top gallery, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
-they wouldn't get much change out of £400 or £500 for this vase. -Yes, I see. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:46 | |
-You haven't got a pair, by any chance? -No. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
-Would have been nice. -No, I haven't got a pair. -No. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
And that, now, that's interesting. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
Let's see - oh - that's a very rare vinaigrette. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
With the clock face. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
Again, around 1800 but that one - you should be talking probably the best part of £1,000 on that one. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:11 | |
-For that! -For that, yes. It's a rarity. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
I mean, just the boxes alone, just as a guesstimate, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
there's probably £50,000 sitting there. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
But then we've got the candlesticks. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
When we had these, Jean didn't like them at all. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
-"They're ugly." "We don't want them." -Well, we didn't think they were...pretty. -Right. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:37 | |
Well, I don't think "pretty" is necessarily a word to be put on them, I agree. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:42 | |
But they are terribly exciting because they are a very rare form of candlestick. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
They're cast candlesticks - when you look underneath, you can actually see the casting. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
Most candlesticks, when you turn them over, you just see it green underneath and there's filling inside | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
and they're made of sheet metal, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
but these are made in the very best way... | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
By casting, which, in the Regency period, when they were produced, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
you don't get that many, other than, say, at the top end of the market. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:13 | |
Let's have a look and see what... | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
There it is. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:16 | |
Hiding amongst all the vinaigrettes. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
SW is the maker's mark. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
That...is a chap called Samuel Whitford, who I think was probably more a retailer than anything else, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:31 | |
and 1819 is the date. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
-So had you any thought of value on those? -We honestly have no idea. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:39 | |
Um... | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
Those I could see quite easily | 0:42:41 | 0:42:46 | |
um, on the market for at least... | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
£25,000. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
-It is a lot, isn't it? -Never! | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
-Just for those four candlesticks? -For those four candlesticks. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
After this show I think Whitchurch - a town that's had four names - | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
might have another one, something like "Rainbow's End". | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
There's been so much to admire, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
from glorious silver to those giant peat buckets, worth the price of a small house. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:15 | |
To Shropshire, thank you very much and until next week, goodbye. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:20 | |
Subtitles by BBC - 2002 | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 |