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Welcome to Nottingham, city of legends and lace, of Robin Hood, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
HP Sauce and Raleigh bicycles. Land of DH Lawrence and Lord Byron, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:45 | |
of William Booth - salvationist, and Jesse Boot - chemist. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
Long before that illustrious list, Nottingham was established as Snottingaham - | 0:00:50 | 0:00:56 | |
the tribal leader bearing the proud name of Snot. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Happily, the invading Normans found that difficult to pronounce. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
And, at certain times, the name of this inn would be difficult to say - | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
it's one of the oldest in England. The Crusaders used to stop off on their way to the Holy Land. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:15 | |
"Trip" in Old English means "stopping place". | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
And legend insists that Robin Hood and his men made merry here | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
while the Sheriff of Nottingham held court nearby at Nottingham Castle. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:28 | |
It has been destroyed and rebuilt many times in its turbulent history. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:38 | |
The Civil War began here in 1642, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
when Charles I raised his standard | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
to enlist men to fight a rebellious parliament. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
If walls could talk, these would have a lot to say for themselves. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
The rock they stand on is soft sandstone, ideal for scooping out nice cosy caves. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:58 | |
Indeed, in Alfred the Great's time, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
the city was known as "the house of caves". | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
Generations of Nottinghamians lived in them. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
In 1330, Edward III's supporters used this passage to retake the castle from Roger Mortimer | 0:02:07 | 0:02:13 | |
who had murdered Edward's father and slept with his mother. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
Mortimer was dragged down here and hauled off to London | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
where he was hanged, drawn and quartered. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
Spin forward 500 years and we find young Jesse Boot, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
who, at the age of 13, is running his parents' chemist shop. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
He hit on the novel idea of buying in bulk and selling many items for a small but copious profit. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:42 | |
Jesse Boot became the owner of the UK's largest chain of chemist shops. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
He was also a great benefactor of the University of Nottingham, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
providing land and a fine pharmacy department. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
And fittingly, for a town which boasts the world's oldest football club, | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
today's Antiques Roadshow comes from a sporting venue - the Harvey Hadden Sports Centre. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:07 | |
-Now, when you were given this, did you think it was a brooch? -Yes. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
I only ever saw my grandmother wear it as a brooch, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
so I didn't think it was anything else, and it's got a pin on the back. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
There's a clue to the fact that it was to be worn in another way. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:25 | |
-Right. -Have you unscrewed this? -No. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
-And there it falls away. -Oh! | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
And that's the key to another function to this very pretty jewel. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
-It seems freer without it, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
-In the fitted box in which this was originally sold, there would be a long tortoiseshell comb... -Yes. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:44 | |
..and it could be screwed into the back there, and in the same box | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
-would be some enormously long white egret's feathers - aigrettes. -Oh! | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
-So before you were married, you'd be wearing it in your hair like this. -Oh, really? -Yeah, | 0:03:54 | 0:04:01 | |
-and it would have huge white feathers jutting out at the top and you'd be the belle of the ball. -Wow! | 0:04:01 | 0:04:07 | |
The word "aigrette" is a corruption of the word "egret" because the feathers came from the white egret. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:14 | |
Very spiky, very sort of shaving-brushy-looking feathers. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
-Yes. -And very, very elegant. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
This was what a girl would wear before she was married, before she could wear a tiara. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
-Only married women can wear tiaras in their hair. -Right. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
-And this would be part of etiquette in... What date do you think? -I've no idea. It was my grandmother's, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
and I believe that she inherited it, but other than that, I don't know. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:42 | |
Well, we're pushing it a little bit further back, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
-probably 1870s to 1890s. -Wow! -And it's hugely versatile. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
It HAS lost its feathers, they perished long ago. In fact, most of the egrets perished. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:57 | |
They were hunted to nearly extinction to get these feathers. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
The velvet case has gone, the tortoiseshell comb has gone... | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
-Well, it's a blaze of diamonds, it's wonderful. -It's a bit sparkly. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
Along the bottom here is a gallery, which raises the diamond work up | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
when it's worn as a brooch, to let the light come through. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
Pierced by hand, drawn out with a little diamond work and then filed. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
Then the silver settings are let into this, tubes of silver, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
and each diamond is rubbed round and cut down. They call them cut-down settings. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:34 | |
-So it's a hugely sentimental one for you, isn't it? -Oh, yes, it will be passed on to my daughter. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:40 | |
Well, that's wonderful, but I think we've got to make a stab at value. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
-I think, let's put it down at £3,000 for insurance. -Goodness me! | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
That'll give my husband a shock! | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
All you've got to do is look after it, and wear it for him. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
-Yes. -Very posh. Lucky chap! | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
Signed on the silver dial here - Hall & Co of Manchester. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
He was a retailer rather than a maker, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
but looking at the quality of the three-train movement, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-I would have said this is a comparatively late clock. Had you any thoughts of date? -No. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:16 | |
Well, looking at the case, we would say just prior to 1800, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
-but this movement, I think, is about 1855-1860. -Really? | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
-Which would account for the retailer's name on the dial rather than a specific clockmaker. -Yes. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:33 | |
Still, a nice three-train movement, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
rather tiny little gong and interesting... | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
If I move that slow-fast, you can see the cam just at the back there, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
which is moving the pendulum up and down to regulate the time. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
Have you had it running recently? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
-I have it running regularly. -You do? -Yes. -It could do with a clean. -Yes! | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
So the case, stylistically, just before 1800... | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
Very pretty case, very handsome. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
Because we've got the glass sides, we can see the chain fusee | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
-and you can see above that, the little pinned barrel for the quarter-chiming work. -Right. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:19 | |
We've also got this rather nice repeat facility here, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
which will make it strike and quarter chime | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
to the preceding quarter hour. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
-So you'll hear the full three-quarters and then the single one on the gong. -Yes. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:36 | |
Well, even though it's a late clock, it's a handsome three-train bracket clock. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
If you put that to auction today, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
you would get an absolute minimum | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
-of about £2,800. -Thank you very much. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
-My grandfather was an Arsenal physio. -Was he? -Yeah. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
After the 1950 FA Cup Final, when they went to the dressing room, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Joe Mercer kindly gave him the cup-winning shirt, which is this. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
-He played left half, didn't he, Joe Mercer? -Yeah. -Terrific. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
-In those days, they called it the Final Tie, not the Cup Final. -Yeah. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
And it's Saturday April 29th 1950 at 3pm - at Wembley, of course. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:18 | |
So was your father there as well? | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
My father was in the crowd, but my grandfather was on the Arsenal bench. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
-The cap is... Oh, it's an England International cap. -Yes. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
That is from my grandfather again. It was given to him by Laurie Scott, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
-who was the Arsenal number seven. -That's right, yes. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
-Um... -It's inscribed - "Very best wishes, Laurie Scott". -Yeah. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
-Do you know what international it was awarded for? -I think... | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
-it may be against Argentina. -Right. Because that can affect the value. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
Let's start with the programme - always keenly sought after - | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
Cup Final programmes - and I'd think a programme from the 1950 Final | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
is probably worth £80 to £120. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
The England cap, although not relating to the Cup Final, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
nevertheless is a good England cap in nice condition, made of velvet, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
and the fact that it's got the inscription inside from Laurie Scott | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
adds to its value. I would think that cap at auction would fetch | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
£500 to £600. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
And then we come to the shirt, worn by Joe Mercer, captain of Arsenal | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
and captain of England at the time, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
-and then went on to be a manager for Manchester City and others. -Yeah. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
Well, interestingly enough, a shirt from this Cup Final | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
came up at auction not so long ago, belonging to Laurie Scott, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
so that gives a guideline. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
But this is more important because Mercer was England's captain. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
If this shirt came up for auction, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
it wouldn't surprise me if it fetched £5,000. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
Made out of spelter... | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
-Excuse me, John. -Yes? -Any suggestions? -Um, let's have a look. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:10 | |
Well, I think they're probably for somebody who has dire gout, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
identical gout in either foot, bandaged their feet, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
and when they're wheeled around town they are to hide the bandages. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
So a gout man's boots. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
A likely story. Thank you! | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
It's an unusual table - German, because of the type of wood, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
but, more importantly, the type of veneer on here, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
-this parquetry veneer all the way round, geometric parquetry. -Yes. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
With this leg which is rather fat at the top | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
and going smaller as it goes down the cabriole. How did you find this? | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
I was on a visit to London with my family and we went shopping to buy a dining table, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:55 | |
and we visited an auction room in North London | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
and this table was there with four or five items stacked on top. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
-So you couldn't see it? -No, I couldn't see anything but the sides, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
-but I loved the work and the shape of the legs. -It's not that old, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
-but there's something here... -When we lift it, the top moves. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
-So which way? -Anticlockwise. The top moves up... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
I don't think they were made for outside use, or not for walking in. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
I think they were made possibly for insulating the feet against something...maybe on a stagecoach? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:34 | |
I think that they weren't for walking in, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
they're for an invalid, perhaps, outside to keep his feet warm. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
Carry on! | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
Put that slightly down, leave it down, and it does... | 0:11:47 | 0:11:53 | |
What do they say - "Vorsprung durch Technik"! | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
Never seen these from any other country except England. It's German, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
-the wood is walnut, the underframe is pine... -Yeah. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
The origin of this type of capstan table, as it's called in England, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
originated in London in about 1830. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
-Right. -It's a firm called Johnson and Jeans, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
based on a patent by Jupe. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
-But I'm talking about 1830. -Yes. -This table is clearly much later, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
-but I think it predates the Second World War. -Oh. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
-Well, I'm going to have to ask you how much you paid for it! -Right, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
I paid £100 plus commission with two other items, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
so the three items and the table - £100. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
I'd give you £100 for it now! You couldn't buy this | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
-for less than £1,000. -Right, yes. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
-And I think that's conservative. What do you think? -That's excellent! | 0:12:53 | 0:12:59 | |
-Vicky, excuse me. -Good grief! They must have belonged to the fattest man in the world - | 0:12:59 | 0:13:05 | |
-Daniel Lambert. He came from Stamford, near here, and he weighed 52 stone. -Wow! | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
There's a picture of him with gaiters coming down to where those boots would have fitted. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:16 | |
-Thank you very much! -Not a bit. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
Rather boot-shaped, isn't it? I assume that the prongs at the bottom | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
-are for pushing into the ground? -I think so. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
I assume you give this a clout with a stick and a ball is projected? | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
Yes. I think it's called a trap ball, but it has lots of different names. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
I believe it was played between the 14th century and the 18th century in England, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
and it appears to be a forerunner of rounders. You were right - | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
you place a ball - which I assume was leather - on this, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
you hit it with a stick on there | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
and you hit it with a bat. So one of the names is "bat, trap and ball." | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
It's difficult to date it exactly. It's just a carved piece of oak, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
the metalwork is hand-forged and the screws are handmade, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
which indicates it's 18th century rather than 19th century. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
It's a difficult thing to value. I'd see it at around about £500-£800. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
Nice thing, unusual. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
My grandfather was art director of Royal Crown Derby up until 1936. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
-Oh, right. He was? -Thomas Amos Reed. And these were test pieces, I believe - | 0:14:24 | 0:14:30 | |
only done on one side, or slightly differently on both sides, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
to evaluate whether a design was viable or not. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
So why waste paint if you weren't going to make it? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
Obviously the art director played a vital role in creating the designs. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
-He was a very good artist. -Would he have decorated these or designed...? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
I don't know. One of them is signed by Gregory, so... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
He got a friend. Albert Gregory's signature is on the panel there, | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
but the piece itself is clearly a trial in some way, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
-It's a most strange design. -Yes. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
I've never seen the design in production in Derby and no factory mark, so never put on sale, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:16 | |
-just things he kept in the family. -Just at home. Though he didn't like patterned things to eat off. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:22 | |
-He had all white plates. -He was designer at the factory for how long? -I'm not sure. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:29 | |
-He retired in 1936. I think he was there for quite a few years. -I seem to remember he left in the 1920s. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:36 | |
I think his designs were too traditional for the time. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
The designs were the Victorian designs that Derby had always made, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:46 | |
but then in the '20s, Art Deco was coming in | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
-and Derby fell a bit behind - maybe they wanted somebody modern. -Yes. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
-These designs were old-fashioned. -Yes. -Fascinating trials. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
-But these are finished. -Yes. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
We were always told they were christening cups. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
One is my father's, the green one, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
and the other one is his brother's, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
-They were Thomas Amos Reed's sons. -"Donald Howard Reed." -My father. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:16 | |
And Gordon Vernon Reed was his older brother, who was killed in World War I. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
-So this was made when he was born. -Yeah. -That's the factory mark there. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:27 | |
That's what - 1902? Oh, we've got the inscription there - | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
born February 10th 1903. What special productions to commission | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
-and create. -Yeah. -As art director you could do some wonderful work. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
And here is the proud factory mark | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
and marvellous decoration. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
These are both signed by Gregory. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
He was particularly good at flower painting. These flowers were typical of the sort of work he did as well. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:55 | |
So the best artist chosen to do a lovely design, special commission, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
-proudly kept in the family. -Yes. -In terms of value, of course, they're worlds apart. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
Experimental vases without tops... | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
A curiosity like this is going to be worth a few hundred pounds. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
They tell a story of what was going on at Derby. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
But pieces like these are now enormously expensive. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
Are they covered by insurance? Are they properly valued? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
Not specially, no. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Because these pieces are stunningly beautiful and so desirable | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
as pieces of jewelled porcelain. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
A cabinet object of that quality by Gregory with that gilding - you've got to be, I suppose... | 0:17:34 | 0:17:40 | |
£7,000. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
-Is that each, or for the pair? -Each. -Oh, my God! | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
-Now, we all know you as Lord Oaksey, but we're not going to talk about racing today. -No. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:53 | |
But why are you here? What is your connection with this material? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
My connection is through my father. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
He was appointed... as one of two British judges | 0:18:00 | 0:18:06 | |
on the International Military Tribunal | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
which was set up to try the Nazi war criminals. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
-This was the Nuremburg trials? -Exactly. -Right. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
So he was what? The presiding judge? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
-He turned out to be the presiding judge, yes. -Right, so what are these? | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
-Well, my mother went out to Nuremburg with my father. -Right. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
And she decided to compile a record, her own photographic record. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
So this is a record of your father's involvement with the trials? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
Yes, entirely personal. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Now, the Nuremburg trials, I think, from memory, was October 1945 to October '46, wasn't it? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:46 | |
Lasted about 11 months, that's right. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
Right. And I think that it was the trial that established the precedent | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
-that when you say as a defence, "I was only following orders", that doesn't hold water, right? -Yes. | 0:18:53 | 0:19:00 | |
So the patterns set at Nuremburg are now part of our cultural history. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
-I hope so. -Now, that's your father? -That's right. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
And here we've got your father on duty, as you might say, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
and these are the various passes issued that he wore. "IMT", | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
and he was number one, so he was top of the list, wasn't he? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
So there he is, on the job. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
I think what we've got here is a sort of chronological record, is that right? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
More or less, yeah. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Now, here are all the judges and the prosecutors. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
So there's... That's your father. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
That's my father and that's Biddle. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-Who was the American one. -Yes. He thought that he should have been presiding. -So he was cross about it? | 0:19:45 | 0:19:51 | |
-Yes. -So we've got Russians, Americans, British and French. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
-That's right. -So this was the establishment | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
of this sort of four-power rule of conquered Germany, wasn't it? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
-Very much so. -Or it reflects that, rather. So there we are. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
The interesting one is Jackson, who had stepped down | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
from the Supreme Court in America to head up the prosecution, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
and, in fact, made a nonsense | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
-of cross-examining Goering. -Oh, really? -He was really a failure. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
-He wasn't a good cross-examiner? -No. -Here's the dock and there's Goering. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
-Gosh, doesn't he look thin? -Well, that's the amazing thing. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
He had lost four stone, four stone in weight, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
and had come off main-line heroin | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
and so it was an incredible achievement that he became... | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
because he did become the outstanding figure in the dock. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
-He defended himself and his colleagues. -Never said sorry at all. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
No, exactly. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
Who are these girls? Translators, are they? | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
-The one who sticks in my memory is the lady on the right. -That one? -Yes. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
Who was German-into-English, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
and she was known throughout the English team, so to speak, as the "Passionate Haystack" | 0:21:06 | 0:21:13 | |
because sometimes her hair would be piled up like that, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
sometimes it would be sort of Veronica Lake style, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
-so we used to bet on what style... -On a day-to-day basis? Good odds? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
Well, Passionate Haystack was six to four. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
-Was she aware of this? Obviously not. -I think not. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
-One of the great personalities of the court. -Yes. -What have we here? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
-"Picnics. Spring 1946" -LORD OAKSEY LAUGHS | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
So you have images of what went on. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-It was rather beautiful countryside. -Well, Brecht's garden was nearby. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
-Yes, we went there. -So, in a sense, a complete package of international life | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
is transported to Nuremburg for the duration of the trial. What's this? | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
Oh, look, these are drawings by Nikichenko, the Russian prosecutor. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
-Who was a charming man from the Ukraine. -Right. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
-And we found him easily the most charming of the two Russians. -Yes. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:14 | |
-The other one we thought had just a touch of KGB about him. -Runstedt, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
-Speer, Papen - who was acquitted, wasn't he? -Got off, yes, mmm. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:25 | |
Wonderful drawings of these people. It was a cartoonist's heyday. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
-I suppose it was, and... -Several times you've said "we". I mean, how is it "we"? Were you there? | 0:22:30 | 0:22:36 | |
I was there for a whole summer holiday, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
-when I was 16, 17, sort of thing. -So you have memories of it? -Oh, rather! | 0:22:40 | 0:22:46 | |
-So the Passionate Haystack you saw? -I certainly did! -Did you bet? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Well...yes! | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
More to the point, more to the point, was the PX rations, because coming from rationed England, | 0:22:53 | 0:23:00 | |
suddenly to be pitchforked into PX rations - | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
two bars of Hershey chocolate, 200 cigarettes, which was like gold. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:10 | |
-I couldn't play in the black market. -Nylon stockings! -Yes! -All those things Americans were famous for. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:17 | |
-Exactly. -Now, what's this? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
-Well, I'm sorry to say that's me... -There you are! | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
-So you have memories of the trial? -I have indeed. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
-I wish I'd taken more notice. -You sat in the public galleries? -Oh, rather. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
-So you saw all these people? -Absolutely, with my headsets on. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:39 | |
I must ask you quickly, what's this? Why have you got a Union Jack? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
Oh, the Union Jack, which flew in the courtroom | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
over where my father sat and there were, of course, the other flags too. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:54 | |
-This is the actual one? -Yes. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
These books are part of your family history. Where are they now? | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
-Do you keep them at home? -No, we've lent them to the Galleries of Justice at Nottingham. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:06 | |
-The only legal museum in Britain. -Yes. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
-I gather it's on open access - there's a microfilm or microfiche version of it? -Yes. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
-So any historian can consult it. -Yes. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
But it's a Roadshow convention that we value things. Frankly, I don't know where to begin. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:25 | |
-There is no archive like this. One can't break this up. -No, no. -Clearly you'll never sell it. -Never. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:32 | |
But for insurance purposes - I suppose one's got to think about | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
£20,000 - £30,000, which is a meaningless figure in terms of the value of it, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:42 | |
-but it gives us something to go by. -Yes. -But value's unimportant. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
This is just such an incredible vision into this, as I say, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
this vital moment in our history which we are still benefiting from. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
I would feel very, very ashamed if I ever even thought of selling them. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
-I'm sure you won't. -No. -Thank you very much for sharing it with us. -Not a bit. Thank YOU. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:07 | |
I've always worked in the shoe trade and a friend got them at an auction | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
because he thought I might be interested | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
and that got me going... collecting various other things. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
Well, these are most lovely quality. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
They're marked "left and "right" and they're also... | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
They're made in London in...1800. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
I think they're absolutely, absolutely beautiful... | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
-and then you've got a very, very nice meat skewer here. -Yes. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
The only thing about that is that most I've seen have sharp edges | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
-and that one seems to be pretty blunt. -Indeed. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
But it was made in the 18th century, in 1796, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
-and you tend to find that this flat edge is 18th century. -Yes. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
In the 19th century, you get them with bevelled edges, rather sharper. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
-But it was a meat skewer, now used as a letter opener... -Yes. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
-It's damn rich to have a meat skewer like that, but rather fun. -Yes. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
I'll tell you the thing that really intrigues me is this. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
I bought it at an auction. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
-It was the first item to come up on the auction. -Yeah. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
-I bought it for £200 as a vinaigrette. -Ye-es... | 0:26:26 | 0:26:33 | |
Um, I've been told that it's probably a snuff box, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
that was later turned into a vinaigrette. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
Well, this really, really, really intrigues me. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
It was made in 1817. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:50 | |
And...I think I would agree initially that, yes, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
this is a snuff box, but the hinge is exactly the same there - | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
the same working of hinge - as is on the back | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
and that is marked...1817. It was made by William Elliot, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
presumably for Mr Fry, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
whose name is punched through as part of the work there. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
"I Fry." Jonathan Fry, James Fry, whatever. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
But I've never seen such a huge vinaigrette, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
and I would stick my neck out | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
and say it is absolutely right, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
it HAS to be right, which makes it INCREDIBLY rare. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
I have never seen anything like it. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
It's also very beautiful, a lovely shape, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
-it's dated...1818 as an inscription... -Yes. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:48 | |
..and it was made the year before, which all ties in so well. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
I find it a very intriguing piece | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
and I don't know what to put on it. I tell you, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:02 | |
-it's a hell of a lot more than £200! -Well, that's very gratifying. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
-£800. -That's amazing. -Maybe more. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
I think it's a wonderful and exceptional, rare interesting thing. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
The largest vinaigrette I've ever seen and the most extraordinary. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:20 | |
..Banners were a great feature of late 19th-century working-class life. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
We associate them particularly with the trade union movement. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
From the 1860s, trade unions were about getting membership, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
making unions acceptable, raising funds, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
and these banners. They survive because many unions, although amalgamated, are still there. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
This one is for hospitals. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
Nottingham and Notts Sick and Annual Societies, Children's Hospital Cot and Free Medicine Fund. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:51 | |
What is unusual about it is that it survives. The date is, I'd think, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
the 1890s, 1900s, certainly well before the First World War - | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
-I'm looking at her uniform. -Yes. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
The image is wonderful, so lively - the way the girl is painted. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
And women in medicine were still a new phenomenon. Where is it from? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
-I bought it from a second-hand furniture dealer in Derby. -Long time ago? -No. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:17 | |
I bought it nearly two years ago but it took me nearly 18 months to get it to my home. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:24 | |
Because it was so large, I had to wait until my son bought a bed from the same dealer | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
-and we had them delivered together. -It's very hard to value. I think... | 0:29:29 | 0:29:35 | |
-something between £1,000, £2,000 to £3,000... -Oh! | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
-..because it's such a rare item. -Oh, dear! | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
-Do you know who it represents? -No. I think it looks a bit like Punch. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
Oh, right. In fact, it's a man called Ali Sloper, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
who was a cartoon character in the late 19th century. He started in America, but was popular over here, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:59 | |
and he was known for his outsize nose, as is represented here. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
It's also hallmarked - made in London, the date letter is "f" - | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
which from memory I think is 1881, so we can date it accurately. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
The head is carved horn. How did you come by it? | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
-Well, I remember it in my grandma's hall stand. -Right. -She'd be about 130 if she'd been alive. -Yes. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:25 | |
That ties in with the date. This is unusual. I haven't seen Ali Sloper on a stick before. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
If this came up at auction, you would expect to get... | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
-between perhaps £500 or £600 for it. -Amazing. Absolutely amazing. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
Crown Staffordshire, the name of the factory, then it's made in England, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
made after 1891, about 1900, and Celia is the name of the pattern. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:49 | |
Very nice. Obviously it would have been part of a much bigger service, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
-but that's all you've got left, is it? -The two. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
They're only printed. The pair of them with their ladles are probably worth £100 to £120. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:03 | |
This is a little bit older. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
Samuel Fielding and Company, and the name of the pattern is Kent and patent registration number. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:13 | |
And then we have the date, which is... | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
June 1884. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
-How many of those have you got? -Three. -Three. -That's the small one. -That's the small one, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
so this one is worth about £40, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
-and they'll go up in value as they get bigger. -Large ones. -Large ones could be £150 to £200, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:33 | |
because everybody likes them for their dresser. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
-It was left to my great-grandmother. -Yes. -She was a housekeeper | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
and it was given to her by the family. I remember seeing it in her house. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
So when was it given to your great-grandmother? I don't know. It must have been the '40s, '50s? | 0:31:47 | 0:31:54 | |
-I'm imagining that's... -But that is a very generous family she worked for. -Yes. | 0:31:54 | 0:32:01 | |
-They must have really adored her. -They did. -What do you know about it? | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
Only about the artist being local. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
-Laslett Pott born in Newark. -Exactly. -I think 1837. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
-'36-37, whatever. -Whatever. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
-That's really all I know about him. -I know Laslett John Pott very well. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:21 | |
When he went down to London, he consistently, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
for about 40 or 50 years, exhibited at the Royal Academy. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
He is a perfect academic artist. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
The first thing I think about when I look at paintings like this | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
is the sheer craftsmanship, the artisanship of the artist... | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
This is a very beautiful painting, but underlying all good art | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
is the craftsmanship of an artist learning how to use his tools. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
The marvellous thing about Victorian paintings | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
is the underlying craftsmanship that they really learned at the schools - | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
at the Royal Academy schools and other schools - | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
how to push paint around with their brush. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
So that's the first joy in seeing a picture like this. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
The second joy is that it's in its original frame, behind glass, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
which has kept it in beautiful condition. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
Being behind glass preserves the surface of the picture. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
-You have never had this picture cleaned? -No. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
I am sure your great-grandmother never had it cleaned. She received it, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
and yet it looks as though it was cleaned yesterday, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
because the grime of the atmosphere does not attack the varnish | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
and it preserves the varnish - which turns yellow very easily. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
Victorian times were filled with grime and dust and smoke. It's very, very beautiful. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:48 | |
So much has been restored since the war, it's good to find it in this condition. With all that in mind, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:56 | |
this picture would certainly make between £6,000 and £8,000, | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
but I believe it would make well over £10,000. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
-As an insurance value - £15,000. -Great, lovely. OK. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:11 | |
-Who's the Andy Pandy fan? -My mum. She used to eat her roast dinners on it, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:17 | |
because when they ran out of chairs, she used a small chair on top. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
-It's in incredible condition. -Is it? -Yes, immaculate. Like brand new. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
Now, Andy Pandy, I'll tell you something... I'm interested in it | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
because my mother was a puppeteer | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
-and she was the puppeteer who operated Andy Pandy. -No! Was she on the TV programme? -Yes. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:39 | |
-She wasn't seen, but she pulled the strings. -Oh, yeah. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
-And she did Flowerpot Men and things like that. -Really? -Yeah? -Wow! | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
-So this, for me, is a wonderful thing. -Yes. -It's great to see it, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
and there is even a little story which I'm going to deny immediately, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
which is that when Andy Pandy was being made in the 1950s, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
-I was that boy. -Really?! -Can you see the likeness? -Oh, no, definitely! | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
-Blue eyes, the nose... -All the fair hair. -Oh, he's got blue eyes, you've got brown. Sorry! -No good. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:12 | |
-Anyway, this sort of memorabilia is very popular now. -Yeah. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
This is in such great condition. I think, to an enthusiast, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
this material, for children's programmes particularly, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
this could be £150, as much as that. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
-She will be pleased. -So tell your mother to stop eating her lunch off it. -Yes! Take it away from the fire. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:35 | |
I bought it about six years ago. I was looking for a piece like this | 0:35:35 | 0:35:41 | |
for about two years and then saw this and I just fell in love with it, so I bought it. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:47 | |
-This drawer originally would be called a brushing slide. -Yes. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
I think probably people could use it for a writing surface, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
but it's really for laying out things and brushing them down. That's what I was told, yeah. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:02 | |
-The baize has been replaced here. -Yes. -It's in nice condition. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
This is a lovely shape, this serpentine shape here. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
Push that back.... These edges have just warped a tiny bit, look. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
-A tiny bit of movement on that. -Oh, yes. -Both edges. -When I bought it, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:21 | |
-there was a cut-throat razor in there. -Ah, right. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
I've never seen them complete, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
but I've seen them with the, um... often with these. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
-Sometimes this has been stripped out which would ruin the value. -Yes. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
But with these here, very nice. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
-Along the front row, each one has got another box inside it. -Oh, that's nice. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:43 | |
Along the front, to the shape of the serpentine. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
Oh, that's quite rare, and if they're still there, that's lovely. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
What a nice feature. But I love the thing for the cut-throat razor. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
It's a glorious thought, isn't it? But it's a gentleman's piece. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
Because of the razors, a gentleman's dressing chest, it would be called. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
Very nice shape. The serpentine line which helps me date it. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:09 | |
-Have you any idea what the date is? -Well, I was told it was George III. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
-Is it about 1780? -A bit earlier than that, I'm glad to say. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
-I think it's basically a Chippendale sort of design. -Yes. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
Chippendale is a word that's used everywhere for mahogany furniture, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
but there are certain features which are similar to Chippendale's work. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
Chippendale's first book was in 1754 - the Gentleman and Cabinet Maker's Director - | 0:37:31 | 0:37:37 | |
and he produced other versions in the 1760s, so it's 1760-1770 - | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
-earlier than 1780. -Earlier. -This serpentine line here | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
is typical of that Rococo mid-18th century period, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
but the feature I like most is this fretwork. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
-The blind Gothic. Isn't it lovely? -Beautiful. -And that you'll see | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
-if you get Chippendale's book. -That was one of the things that drew me to it. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:03 | |
Really? Chippendale copied a lot of his designs from other people, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:08 | |
but also from other pattern books of the 1720s and '30s, so he put all the information he got in his book - | 0:38:08 | 0:38:14 | |
that's why he's so famous. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
This is influenced by him, but not necessarily made by him. If we could pin it down to Thomas Chippendale, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:23 | |
-it would be a different story. -Correct, yes. -But I like it and I admire your courage | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
for spending two years to find it. These have gone up a lot - | 0:38:28 | 0:38:34 | |
I won't ask what you paid for it - I just hope it's gone up in value - it must have done in six years. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:41 | |
-Prices have gone up a lot since the mid-'90s. You bought this retail, did you say? -I did, yes. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:48 | |
Today, a retail price would be... well, verging on £20,000. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
-Goodness me! -I only hope it's gone up in value. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
Goodness me! Now you have shocked me! | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Deary me! Well, thank you very much. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
-Has it gone up in value? -Just a bit, yes! -Brilliant. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
-Will you take it off? -If I can get it off... | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
It IS a beauty, isn't it? My goodness. What do you know about it? | 0:39:17 | 0:39:23 | |
Very little, really, which is one of the reasons I came to see you. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
Right. Do you know what the stone is? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
Um, it's a hard stone, I would have thought. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
-Cornelian? -Cornelian is bang on. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
It's obviously a neoclassical ring and it's carved down into the ring. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:43 | |
It's not a cameo, the relief isn't raised, this is an intaglio - | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
it's cut into stone. It's rather like a seal ring, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
and it's one of the masterpieces of the gem engraver's art. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
In the 18th century, | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
gem engraving was viewed as extension of sculpture | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
and aristocrats would collect engraved gems of exactly this sort. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
They'd keep them in cabinets to admire them and show them to friends | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
and it was the pursuit of princes ever since remotest antiquity, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
to have their lives decorated with stones of this sort | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
and it IS a most remarkable stone. Have you thought about the subject? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
-It appears to be Greco-Roman... I think I recognise Pan... -Mm-hm. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
-Um... -Yeah. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
Well, that's absolutely on course for the period of the ring, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
-but it's actually Silenus, who's a Roman god of wine. -Oh! | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
And he's being drawn along by his attendants | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
in a state of severe drunkenness. He's lolling around, and he's going to fall off the ass in a second, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:52 | |
and that moment has been captured by the gem engraver. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
-Where did you find this? -In a teapot. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
In a teapot?! You didn't? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
I did. I bought some pots at auction | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
because there were some things that matched a service I had at home | 0:41:05 | 0:41:10 | |
-and there was an awful teapot in it. That was in the spout. -It wasn't! | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
-How much was the teapot with the...? -Well, the whole box was about £20. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
-£20, my God, and so somebody.. -It's a long time ago, though. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
So it was hidden there by somebody who thought it was a safe place, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
and you were the lucky recipient. Anyway, to take it further, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
it's not only the gem that's neoclassical, it's the ring itself, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:39 | |
and you can see on the shank here, a little neoclassical mask | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
and in the face of the mask is a diamond. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
So it's a most ravishing thing. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
It is a princely piece of jewellery. I think it's all 18th century, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:55 | |
I don't think that this is an engraved gem from an ancient one. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
Very sophisticated - perhaps just a tiny bit too sophisticated, giving its origins away, late 18th century, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:05 | |
probably early 19th century, could come from a famous collection. Maybe we'll track that down. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:11 | |
But as to value - enormously difficult, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
it's still a relatively esoteric area of collecting, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
it still demands, you know, a certain amount of scholarship, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
so if you wanted to buy that again they might ask you... | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
£5,000 for it. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
-You're joking! -No. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
-Oh, I don't believe it! -No, I'm not joking at all, I'm deadly serious! | 0:42:31 | 0:42:37 | |
-My £20 box of pots! -I know. Can I come to tea? | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
-I've still got the cups and saucers! -Brilliant! | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
Well, I doubt if the Harvey Hadden Sports Centre | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
has seen so many unusual and desirable objects for quite a while. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
This dining table that opens up like a lens is an amazing piece of work, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:57 | |
but, at the end of the day, I think my favourite | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
would be this elegant gentleman's dressing chest. Very nice indeed. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
So many thanks to Nottingham for having us. Until next week, goodbye. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
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