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A great estate and a magnificent house -

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Woburn Abbey stands in 3,000 acres of Bedfordshire countryside.

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Inside the abbey, the finest French and English porcelain,

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fabulous paintings, and vaults of silver and gold,

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all gathered during a family history which stretches back nearly 600 years.

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We have two shows from Woburn,

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so for openers, allow me to take you on a grand tour of the estate.

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An abbey was established here in 1145, but was later confiscated by Henry VIII,

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who left the building in his will to the first Earl of Bedford, John Russell, in 1547.

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The Russells didn't actually move in until 1619,

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but it's been their postal address ever since then.

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What you see of the abbey today

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is largely due to the efforts of a couple of 18th-century Henrys,

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Messrs Flitcroft and Holland, designers to the nobility.

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The fourth Duke employed Flitcroft to build the grand state rooms,

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and the fifth Duke commissioned Holland to build the south wing,

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the Chinese dairy,

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and the sculpture gallery.

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Since those additions, the house has seen some major subtractions -

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it's now only half its original size.

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The east wing, an indoor riding school and a real tennis court

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succumbed to dry rot and eventually disappeared.

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The grounds are home to nine species of deer,

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including the Pere David, which originally came from the Imperial herd of China.

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The 11th Duke, Herbrand by name, saved the deer from extinction,

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and, in 1985, 22 were donated to the Chinese government.

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Now, there are 400.

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Woburn Abbey, like all grand and glamorous estates, earns its keep.

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In 1955 John, the 13th Duke, opened the estate to the public.

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Feature films were made here - there was even a brief glimpse of a nudist colony -

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and then, in the late 1960s, an antique centre was opened.

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This was soon followed by Woburn Safari Park,

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but for lovers of sport everywhere,

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Woburn means just one thing - the famous golf tournaments.

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For today's Roadshow, we're all off to the sculpture gallery.

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This is a very English setting for a very Japanese doll,

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and here she stands in her kimono looking, I have to say,

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slightly overdressed for today's conditions - this hot sunshine.

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And in my hand I've got a card, a business card,

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which says Mr Takayuki Eguchi

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from Nagoya, Japan - any connection? I'd like to hope there is.

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That was my father.

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He wasn't 17 years old,

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because that was the age when he left Japan,

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to finish his education in Great Britain.

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-Give me a date for that.

-He arrived in 1914, just before the Great War,

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when Japan and Britain were allies.

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And had very close...close ties.

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-So, your father came to England - did he bring the doll with him?

-No.

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-Ah, there's more to this, is there?

-Well, there's my father,

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and he fell in love with this English lady - my mother.

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-Yes.

-And this is my grandfather, Kumaichi,

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who was outraged that his eldest son was going to make a marriage in England.

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So this wasn't the plan. The plan was for him to get his education,

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-go home and marry some...?

-Well, there was a marriage arranged,

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-so grandfather lost face.

-Of course.

-It was an outrage.

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He said, "Come home, or I will cut off your allowance".

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So, my very stubborn father said, "I'll get a job."

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He was very distressed, because he loved his father,

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and his father had always been most loving, and, er...

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They had their first daughter, Alma,

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but she died when she was nine, of meningitis.

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-Tragedy.

-It was a terrible tragedy,

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and Kumaichi was so shocked to lose a child that he relented,

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forgave his son and invited the whole family to Japan.

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So that is what this is about -

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it's about the reconciliation of my father,

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and my mother meeting for the first time the Japanese family.

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Then the doll, you got in Japan?

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Well, grandfather, very generously -

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he loved my mother, he loved his grandchildren -

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and he commissioned this doll to be made by the master doll-maker in Kyoto.

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-How amazing.

-He commissioned the most beautiful doll for my brother, which was a Samurai on a horse,

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which I always preferred to this rather pretty doll.

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-Yes, I would have been in your camp.

-I loved that.

-But she is just gorgeous.

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He also commissioned kimonos for my mother and myself, too,

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so we came back embarrassingly loaded with many, many, many boxes of gifts.

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How wonderful. A kimono like this?

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-Was it similar?

-Oh, yes, it was very similar,

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with the darker colour outside and then this radiant sort of...

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-Oh, yes.

-..colour showing through.

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-My petticoat was the same golden orange colour.

-Fantastic.

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These dolls are actually known as Ichimatsus - play dolls -

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and they were very popular through the whole of the Meiji period,

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which was 1868 through to 1912.

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The head is made out of papier-mache

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which has then been covered with a kind of gesso,

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which has taken an extraordinary sort of...

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It almost has a feel and finish of porcelain.

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It's an incredible finish on the surface of the face, there.

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The hands are also papier-mache and similarly finished,

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and, of course, this glorious costume,

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made as the full-sized costume would have been.

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-She really is the symbol of the family reunited, isn't she?

-Yes, yes, she is.

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Well, she ought to be priceless,

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but everything has a price.

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I would say that her value, to a collector, would be something around £1,000.

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Which, in the light of what it represents to your family, seems like a snip.

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The latter part of the 19th century saw revivals

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-of periods and styles that we'd had from the Tudor period onwards.

-Right.

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The greatest of all, I suppose, was the Rococo revival -

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the period of shapes and designs up to 1760.

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Then came the Sheraton revival, so everything kept being repeated,

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but with every revival there was always a difference.

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These enable you to tell, and obviously the value is considerable.

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This is a roll-top desk,

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which was first introduced into high society in London in the 1750s, 1760s,

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and it came from France.

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You then saw it go out of fashion by about 1810, 1820,

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and then revive again at the end of the century, when this was made.

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This is a Sheraton revival piece.

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One of the differences is that, you know, if you see it across the room,

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in the 18th-century version, this side part followed the front contour of the cylinder,

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rather than being set back.

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This version has, I think, a more interesting profile -

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it looks more architectural, with this overhanging cornice.

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Another nice feature of this desk -

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I've lifted this out to see... When it opens,

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then you've got a pair of little inkwells, and the desk comes forward to write on.

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Now, before we go into it any further, tell me the family history.

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My wife's grandfather bought it. He was a nurseryman,

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used to go to London on his horse and cart in the '20s and '30s.

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-Right.

-And he used to buy furniture for his home.

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The earliest that we think that he bought it was probably in the late '30s, early '40s.

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-Right.

-It's been in the family as long as my wife's been part of it.

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That was considered sort of second-hand, then. He probably bought a bargain,

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but it's... Of its type, it's as good as you will find -

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it works, it's smooth, and it's the most beautiful bit of wood.

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The quality of the inlay is another guide to its value

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and its price when new, and this is all highly precision-made, with bright colours.

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When this was new, this would have been a richer, darker colour,

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and this would have been bright yellow, white, green, red.

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You can still see the colours. It must have been quite outstanding.

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Could have been made - I don't think there's a mark,

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-have you ever found a stamp on here anywhere - any of the drawers?

-No.

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-Inside the main drawer, there's...

-Ah, wonderful! Oh, that's great.

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Jewells of Holborn - that's fabulous!

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-We wasn't sure whether it had been repaired, or...

-No, no, no!

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-This is fantastic!

-It has an original plate in.

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Well, well, well.

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Little Queen Street. Oh, this is great!

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Well, just looking at it led me to say that it should bear a maker's mark,

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and this company was working

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in the latter part of the 19th century,

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and they supplied the great stores -

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-Gillows, Maples, Heals all sold Jewells furniture.

-Ah.

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-Wonderful. That adds considerably to its historic value and to its commercial value.

-Really?

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What you should do is to take a photograph of that,

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and send it to the Victoria and Albert Museum.

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-Really?

-Yes, because they like to keep a record of all stamped pieces of furniture.

-Gosh.

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-That's a great find, a great find.

-Excellent.

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Value-wise, for insurance I was going to say

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somewhere in the region of £2,500 to £3,000,

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but I think you should think of more near £4,500 to £5,000,

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as an academic piece and a historical piece of great interest.

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We're appreciating quality rather than just age.

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Every time I come on a programme, there's something new.

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Something we've never seen before, and something that stimulates you.

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This has got at me -

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I think it's a great object.

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-Good.

-Do you know what it is?

-No idea.

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Well, we're kind of assuming it's something like a shaving bowl,

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but that's a complete guess, really.

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So, how do you think it works?

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Um, chin here, I presume,

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-but I'm not sure what the small holes are.

-Small holes.

-Yeah.

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-Chin.

-Mm-hmm.

-Now what do you do?

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Get a bit... Not being a man, it's not for me to guess.

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OK, OK, I hold this up here,

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and I try and get the bubbles under here -

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-is that what I do?

-That's true. That's a good point.

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They're always called shaving bowls,

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but there's another theory which is gaining ground,

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that they're not shaving bowls.

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And when you go back to the 17th and 18th century, men had beards.

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-They didn't shave!

-That's true.

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This is a beard washing bowl.

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-Right? That's what it's for.

-Ah!

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And when you've finished, there's a piece of string here,

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-and you hang it on the wall.

-Hang it up.

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This particular one... I mean, they're well known, they come from China, largely, and Japan,

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and then you get English Delft ones,

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and a few other things as well.

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-This one is Japanese.

-Right.

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It was made at Arita,

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..and it's a very unusual one.

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Normally, they're just Imari patterns - gold, blue and red,

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flowers, baskets, something like that.

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This one has been moulded with these waves.

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We've got carp leaping through it,

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we've got these wonderful shells on here, and coral,

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and it's been decorated with extraordinary colours,

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with this emerald green,

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and then a pink and blue which almost suggest iridescence,

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-which is very, very uncommon.

-Right.

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This is fascinating.

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-See that crack?

-Right.

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That happened in the firing - the first firing -

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and they tried to repair it at the time.

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-It's not worked, because the crack has gone even further across there.

-Yes.

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Now, what date are we talking about?

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Couldn't even guess.

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-It's about 1700.

-Oh, right! Gosh.

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It's 300 years old. It's a really, really nice object. I love it.

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Um... It's very rare, and...

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We have three of them. My parents actually have three of them.

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-They all look very similar, so...

-Never!

-Mm.

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There must have been a barber's shop in the family. How wacky!

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-That's extraordinary!

-They inherited them, so I've no idea how they got hold of them.

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I can't believe it.

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Well, I think, you know, this one, even with its damage,

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-is going to be worth close on £1,000.

-Wow!

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A perfect one I would think would be nearer £1,500 to £2,000.

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-Gosh. We'll check the others over.

-Absolutely.

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-Thank you for coming in with it.

-You're welcome.

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-I have no idea.

-It's to do with farming.

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-It's to do with farming.

-Give you a clue.

-OK.

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Give me a clue.

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-I just did.

-Well... That's the clue?

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Well, I thought it might have a veterinary application,

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-but it looks a bit too gruesome.

-Bit dangerous for that, yes.

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-It's obviously for pulling something.

-You're getting close.

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-Put me out of my misery.

-Hayrick.

-Hayrick.

-You put it in.

-Yeah.

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Extend it into the middle of a hayrick, and you pull a piece out.

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-Right.

-To see if it was damp, and then it would sweat.

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That's when it would catch fire.

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So, it's a tool that's used to gauge whether your hayricks are going to spontaneously combust or not?

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-Basically, yes. What age would it be?

-It's a Victorian one.

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I might not have known what it is, but I can tell by the way it's made.

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The style of the case, and also the script on the sections themselves.

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-Right.

-This is certainly Victorian.

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If I said to you it was 1870, 1890, around that kind of period,

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I'm sure I wouldn't be far wrong.

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-Now, if you were in a darkened room, you would know that was a Ruskin vase.

-Would I?

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You would. You would!

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First, the shape would tell you that this is an incredibly sophisticated potter,

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and the other thing is - go on, close your eyes, and then just feel from the top down. ..Yeah?

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-Mm-hmm.

-It goes from glossy to matte.

-Yes, glossy to...

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-Yes.

-That is a good glaze.

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-I think my mice live in it.

-How much rent do they pay?

-None.

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-So, this cost you nothing?

-No.

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It's probably worth, in the present market, between £300 and £500.

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Really? I shall have to start charging the mice rent, now.

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I bought this in the Caledonian Market, many, many years ago.

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I know nothing about it, but I've always wondered.

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I think it comes from Goa,

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and that's really all I... I've worked out.

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I think, in part, you're right.

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What we have here is a writing slope.

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Something that would have been made for the British taste,

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for the British market, and probably made in India.

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It's a really beautiful visual object.

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The fall opens out, and then inside, here,

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you have this lovely, deep purple velvet slope.

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I think this is quite important, because, actually,

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the colour will tell us the date, because this is a chemical dye.

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Up until the 1850s, you had vegetable dyes,

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and then with the invention of these wonderful new chemical dyes, you get these vibrant colours,

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and the purple appears in about 1850, 1855.

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It is veneered in ivory, this wonderful sort of milkiness

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which, because this part is completely protected,

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it hasn't seen the light of day as much as the top,

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so it's not cracked. It's not damaged in any way.

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All these tiny little pieces of pewter cut like little tiny mosaics,

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and they're set together in the most minutely delicate fashion

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to produce this incredible decoration over the whole box.

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Inevitably over a period of time you do get areas of damage here,

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and it is almost impossible to repair.

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Your buy in the Caledonian Market was extremely, extremely good -

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-can you remember what you paid?

-No, but it wouldn't have been very much.

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Long time ago, but even so,

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I think probably £10, something like that. Not more.

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So your £10, over a period of 40 years,

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has moved up to £1,500.

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That's very satisfactory.

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-The problem with this book is that it's falling to pieces.

-Yes.

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Now, it's got a binding on it known as gutta-percha.

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This was an early form of glue -

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a rubberised glue, but it wasn't vulcanised -

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and of course it ALWAYS falls apart. Every book that had gutta-percha falls apart.

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But fear not - it's not an expensive job to do, and the rest of this book...

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I mean, these lovely plates of ships are all there,

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and all in fairly good condition.

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So the bookbinder would clear out the gutta-percha,

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and use another form of glue and stick it all back together again.

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-Right.

-Super binding.

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Lovely binding. A little bit of rubbing here and there.

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-Lovely copy, worth somewhere in the region of £500.

-Right.

-Very nice.

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-Very, very nice.

-Now, this book here is a superb binding.

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Niger goatskin, red Niger goatskin with the royal coat of arms on it.

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But this binding, with these wonderful gilt dentils,

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this lovely coat of arms, fabulous, fabulous spine...

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I couldn't let it... I would have to mark it £200 at the very least.

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That's very, very nice.

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Finally, last and by no means least,

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a really fine piece of 19th-century binding,

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on an 18th-century book.

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Designs For Household Furniture, by Chippendale.

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Lovely large folio,

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and this is all calf with little gilt fillets round the edge.

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It comes from the library of Archibald Philip, Earl of Rosebery.

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-Yes, at Mentmore.

-At Mentmore.

-Yes.

-You went to the sale?

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Yes. I used to work there, and I was there for about 20 years,

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and I used to do all the carpet work and upholstery work there.

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I've been in the furnishing trade all my life.

0:20:220:20:27

-And after the contents...

-You thought you'd like a pocket book.

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Lady Rosebery said I could pick something from the library.

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-She actually gave it to you?

-Yes.

0:20:350:20:38

Because I helped them, getting the sale together, and she said I could have that.

0:20:380:20:44

This is a first edition of the "Gentlemen and Cabinet-Makers Director".

0:20:440:20:48

It is the most - one of the most famous books on furniture.

0:20:480:20:52

In fact, I'm sure John Bly would be tickled pink to have a look at this.

0:20:520:20:56

-We might show it to him later.

-Yes.

0:20:560:20:58

It's full of delightful illustrations for making beds -

0:20:580:21:05

canopy bed there.

0:21:060:21:09

1753, the date.

0:21:090:21:11

It's all absolutely perfect and in absolutely superb condition.

0:21:110:21:15

Normally, this book - because it is so large - is in appalling condition.

0:21:150:21:19

But this is absolutely perfect, and in superb condition.

0:21:190:21:24

What about value?

0:21:240:21:27

That, I don't know. It's, er...

0:21:270:21:29

-Well, I think it's the finest copy. I think £6,000.

-Ooh!

0:21:290:21:35

She gave you that and was very kind. She probably knew all about that.

0:21:360:21:41

I could have had the Hepplewhite and Sheraton books as well, but I thought that would be greedy.

0:21:410:21:47

You should have had them. Yes, absolutely.

0:21:470:21:51

So, two scientific instruments, both apparently genuine.

0:21:510:21:54

If I had to guess one was a fake, I would say that one.

0:21:540:21:58

Yes, I mean this is the obvious sort of bright, shiny,

0:21:580:22:02

-new-looking scientific instrument. In fact, they're both fakes.

-Ah.

0:22:020:22:07

But different sorts of fakes. This I would say, if I was pushed,

0:22:070:22:12

was a sort of honest reproduction, really.

0:22:120:22:15

It's a boxed sextant, made pretty well -

0:22:150:22:18

it's got all the components on it that you'd expect.

0:22:180:22:22

A little telescope, and things.

0:22:220:22:25

One of the giveaways is when you try and put it together,

0:22:250:22:28

you find that the threads cross very easily, so, you know, the actual...

0:22:280:22:32

-It's missing something in the quality.

-It doesn't actually work?

0:22:320:22:36

Exactly. It doesn't actually work.

0:22:360:22:39

But it looks the part, and it comes in a nice little box.

0:22:390:22:43

How much would you pay for that, if you were in the collecting mood?

0:22:430:22:47

-I should think about £75 to £100.

-Well, exactly, and these are being sold at £25.

0:22:470:22:54

And they're being sold at a profit,

0:22:540:22:56

so what they're costing to make is a tiny proportion of that...

0:22:560:22:59

-So it's sort of above board, but...

-Exactly. SORT of above board -

0:22:590:23:03

they're not stamped "reproduction", but they're bright and shiny, and they're being sold cheaply.

0:23:030:23:09

This is, if you like, the dishonest reproduction.

0:23:090:23:12

This is really a fake.

0:23:120:23:15

It's been made to deceive, because the whole thing is a total fabrication.

0:23:150:23:21

It's been put in this box that makes it look very old.

0:23:210:23:25

It's got a name here, Tobias Volchmer,

0:23:250:23:28

who is a known scientific instrument maker from this date, 1581,

0:23:280:23:33

and it's really pretending to be something old and wonderful.

0:23:330:23:37

I have to say the guy who actually made this

0:23:370:23:41

spent a little bit of time at Her Majesty's Pleasure.

0:23:410:23:44

-So this is a criminal act?

-Yeah, absolutely.

0:23:440:23:48

This is something that was designed to deceive,

0:23:480:23:51

and was sold for a lot of money because the person who bought it

0:23:510:23:56

thought that they were buying the original 1581 object.

0:23:560:24:00

And there's a market for these, otherwise they wouldn't bother to do this.

0:24:000:24:05

Yes, I mean the market for something as old and potentially as valuable as this,

0:24:050:24:10

if it was right, is tiny. It's the top of the pyramid of collecting,

0:24:100:24:14

there are perhaps half a dozen people at the top interested there,

0:24:140:24:17

but loads of people are interested in these scientific instruments.

0:24:170:24:21

The craftsmanship is good quality,

0:24:210:24:24

and so what they're producing is an honest reproduction, which is fine.

0:24:240:24:27

I'm very happy with that today.

0:24:270:24:29

What's to be done with the other nasty piece of work, as it were?

0:24:290:24:33

I borrowed it from a private collection.

0:24:330:24:35

It is in very safe hands. It will never escape again.

0:24:350:24:39

-The one thing that appeals to me is this.

-I've had it a long time.

0:24:390:24:44

-You've had it a long time?

-A very long time.

-Do you know what it is?

0:24:440:24:48

-Some lady singing in church.

-Yeah, but what do you do with it?

0:24:480:24:52

-I just put it in the cupboard.

-But what's it FOR?

-I don't know.

0:24:520:24:57

-It's an ashtray.

-Oh, it's not!

-It's an ashtray.

-Really?

0:24:570:25:01

These were made in Germany, in the 1930s,

0:25:010:25:05

when you get a whole lot of strange figures with wide open mouths.

0:25:050:25:09

-Ugly.

-I think they're great fun.

-Yes.

-Somebody would like that.

0:25:090:25:14

-That would fetch in the region of £30 to £40.

-Oh.

0:25:140:25:17

-But it is the most expensive thing on the table, I'm afraid.

-Oh, right.

0:25:170:25:21

My maternal grandmother,

0:25:210:25:24

in her late teens, was a nurse

0:25:240:25:28

around about the Boer War time.

0:25:280:25:32

The story goes that she saved the life of a lord and he was so grateful when he recovered,

0:25:320:25:39

he went to London, he had this bracelet made and gave it to her as a thank-you gift.

0:25:390:25:45

-Do we know who this lord was?

-No, I'm afraid I don't.

0:25:450:25:49

I just know that when I was young, I used to sit with my grandmother

0:25:490:25:54

and because it's got a peculiarity in how you wear it,

0:25:540:25:58

she said, "When you can put it on your wrist, you can have it."

0:25:580:26:02

It took me about six months to work it out.

0:26:020:26:05

Well, let's see if we can just - what you might use the word of -

0:26:050:26:10

dismantling it, because, as snakes go,

0:26:100:26:14

that is the most sinuous coil - articulated tube -

0:26:140:26:21

that you would ever see. It is a complete one-off, isn't it?

0:26:210:26:25

-Yes.

-Can I ask you, as it took you so long to learn how to put it on, can I ask you to put it on?

0:26:250:26:31

Certainly. You start with the head, hopefully, and you hold that there.

0:26:310:26:36

-I'll put that in place there.

-Then you wind it on.

0:26:360:26:40

My goodness me! It's so articulated, it's not really like metal, is it?

0:26:400:26:45

-It's like a ribbon going...

-I'm afraid my wrist

0:26:450:26:48

has got fatter and I can't fasten it now, but that's how it goes.

0:26:480:26:53

But what we're looking at here

0:26:530:26:55

is that the tail crosses over

0:26:550:26:58

and fits snugly into that hole in the body of the snake itself.

0:26:580:27:03

Extraordinary. It really is a piece of Victorian practicality in a piece of jewellery.

0:27:030:27:08

Tremendous. If it were to come up for auction,

0:27:080:27:11

it's going to make in the region of about £800.

0:27:110:27:16

I'm happy to see a fan any day, particularly a warm day like this.

0:27:160:27:20

These are very interesting and those are stunning.

0:27:200:27:23

-What colour would you call that?

-Turquoise.

0:27:230:27:27

-Going from the pale down to the dark.

-Ostrich, of course.

-Yes.

0:27:270:27:32

-They look as if they've been taken from the Folies Bergeres.

-Mm.

0:27:320:27:35

-What do you know about them?

-Well, they came from my husband's side of the family, but that's all.

0:27:350:27:42

And do you bring them out for special occasions? You waft around the garden on summer evenings?

0:27:420:27:47

Not very much, no.

0:27:470:27:49

No, they live in the box, which is rather sad.

0:27:490:27:51

I have to say I don't know much about cats, but I do know something about this artist, Henriette Ronner.

0:27:530:28:00

She was the queen of the cat painters and I just love her work.

0:28:000:28:05

What she does so well is capture

0:28:050:28:09

the whole character of a cat

0:28:090:28:11

and I think this is a superb portrait of, dare I say it, a bit of a moggy.

0:28:110:28:17

But perhaps not - I don't want to offend every cat-lover in the land.

0:28:170:28:21

-How did you come by this?

-Well, it belonged to my grandparents.

0:28:210:28:25

Originally, it belonged to Mary, Duchess of Bedford, the flying duchess.

0:28:250:28:29

She was the lady that disappeared?

0:28:290:28:31

-That's right.

-Didn't she, in her 70s, she took off in a Tiger Moth from here and was never seen again?

0:28:310:28:38

-That's right.

-Oh!

-And my grandfather actually waited for her that evening

0:28:380:28:42

and she of course never came back.

0:28:420:28:45

But she was very fond of my grandfather and after she died

0:28:450:28:49

it was apparently wished that three members of the staff

0:28:490:28:54

should have a memento of their choice.

0:28:540:28:57

My grandfather said he was taken to, I think, her room, allowed to pick something and he chose this.

0:28:570:29:04

What a wonderful story!

0:29:040:29:07

Her work has been in huge demand.

0:29:070:29:09

In fact, when she was painting these pictures in the late 19th century,

0:29:090:29:15

-a lot of her clientele came from the aristocratic families of Great Britain.

-Really?

0:29:150:29:21

So that's a lovely tie-up with the Bedfords.

0:29:210:29:24

And what is interesting about the whole phenomenon of 19th-century... You would NEVER find

0:29:240:29:28

-a cat portrait from the 18C or the 17C. They were just part of an incident, you know...

-Yes.

0:29:280:29:34

..in a tavern scene or something, they'd be seen skulking along.

0:29:340:29:38

But to have a portrait of one was interesting and it was to do perhaps more with the fact

0:29:380:29:43

-that in the 19th century people had more leisure and more time on their hands.

-Yes.

0:29:430:29:47

And therefore they would actually have pets,

0:29:470:29:50

and therefore there were artists

0:29:500:29:52

who catered for their rich patrons who wanted their cat or dog painted.

0:29:520:29:57

And so it's very interesting to see Henriette Ronner painting really...

0:29:570:30:02

She's really one of the only painters of cats - or certainly the best - that I know of

0:30:020:30:08

and I just think it's wonderful to see her work.

0:30:080:30:12

-I think if it was to be really, really valuable, it would have more detail in the background.

-Yes.

0:30:120:30:18

-This cat would be on a sofa.

-Yes.

-Or sometimes playing around a harp

0:30:180:30:22

or something like that - quite an interesting sort of idea.

0:30:220:30:26

Now, what's it worth, that's the interesting question.

0:30:260:30:31

-You've never had it insured or valued?

-No, no.

0:30:310:30:34

Well, I think it's wonderful and her work is certainly collected.

0:30:340:30:37

-I would say that if it came up for auction, it could make between £12,000 and £18,000.

-Really?

0:30:370:30:44

And I would insure it for perhaps £20,000.

0:30:440:30:47

-So I hope that's a surprise, and what a wonderful, generous present from the Duchess.

-Indeed.

0:30:470:30:53

I've seen lots of punch bowls, but never with such decoration.

0:30:540:31:00

It really is remarkable.

0:31:000:31:02

What do you know about it?

0:31:020:31:04

It's been in my parents' household since the '40s.

0:31:040:31:08

But they lived in a little village

0:31:080:31:11

and the original owner of the house had been related to the Thynnes

0:31:110:31:15

-and um, way back...

-Like Longleat.

-Yes, Longleat and the Marquis of Bath's younger son,

0:31:150:31:22

so whether it came from there originally, we're not sure.

0:31:220:31:24

But where did it come from before it was in Longleat?

0:31:240:31:28

I would think it's Chinese.

0:31:280:31:30

Yes, it is Chinese

0:31:300:31:33

but it was made in China in about 1750, very close to 1750,

0:31:330:31:38

for the European market.

0:31:380:31:41

The decoration on it is really remarkable.

0:31:410:31:46

Just the whole thing is extremely inventive,

0:31:460:31:49

and then these scenes - the level of the enamelling in these landscapes is as good as you'll ever see.

0:31:490:31:56

-Technically, it's marvellous.

-Is it gilding?

0:31:560:31:59

That's all gilding. The gilding is very, very good.

0:31:590:32:03

It's Rococo gilding, exactly what you get in Europe at the time.

0:32:030:32:07

-There is a problem - somebody bust it.

-A picture dropped on it.

0:32:070:32:12

I can't believe it! Anyway, it's been very well put together.

0:32:120:32:17

Obviously, value has been grossly diminished, greatly diminished.

0:32:170:32:22

But still, because it is so good - I mean, this is lovely -

0:32:220:32:27

so although it's had an almighty crash and been duffed up and restored, I mean it's still worth...

0:32:270:32:34

-..£500 or £600.

-Lovely!

0:32:360:32:39

It's a cracking good table and the exceptional thing is that the frieze

0:32:410:32:45

and here along the front edge, you've got this sort of trellis

0:32:450:32:48

pattern which is ebony, but it's the leg - now the top part of that leg would expect to continue with

0:32:480:32:54

this fluting right to the bottom, that would be the normal model,

0:32:540:33:00

1800-1810, 1815 at the very latest.

0:33:000:33:03

But this one stops - then a little bit of ring turning, continuing down to the base and then these amazing -

0:33:030:33:10

and I'm just going to tip it back slightly - just look at those feet.

0:33:100:33:15

It's not a castor, it's a ball foot and that type of cast foot

0:33:150:33:20

is typical of a maker called John Linnell.

0:33:200:33:24

Now, I'm not saying it's by him or from his workshops,

0:33:240:33:26

but it's by somebody who copied or admired his work and they've put this type of foot on.

0:33:260:33:33

Very rare. I have not seen a better D-shaped card table than that,

0:33:330:33:37

because of that feature here

0:33:370:33:41

and then that particular brass foot, which is all original.

0:33:410:33:44

And the value today, for insurance?

0:33:440:33:47

-£3,500 to £4,000.

-Lovely. I didn't think it was anything like that.

0:33:470:33:51

Now here we have a Distinguished Service Medal to Frederick Burges - now, who was he?

0:33:510:33:58

-He was the father of my son-in-law.

-Oh, right.

0:33:580:34:01

Well, now, the interesting thing about it is that it's HMS Belfast, he served in the gun turrets.

0:34:010:34:08

-That's correct.

-And it was destroying the Scharnhorst - on the 26th December 1943.

-Yes.

0:34:080:34:15

-This is real history, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:34:150:34:18

-Because the Belfast - we still have one.

-And that we can relate to.

-She's still in the Thames.

-Yes.

0:34:180:34:23

Something that you ought to take to the Belfast at some time and show the existing captain.

0:34:230:34:27

Oh, right, I'll pass that message on.

0:34:270:34:29

Well, normally, Distinguished Service Medals to the Navy

0:34:290:34:33

-are valued around about £500 to £800.

-Very good.

0:34:330:34:38

But this one, because it's the Scharnhorst and the Belfast,

0:34:380:34:42

I would go for the top figure, £800.

0:34:420:34:46

-Thank you for bringing it in, it's great just to handle it.

-Thank you.

0:34:460:34:50

-Well, the word is majolica...

-Yes.

0:34:500:34:53

..a very colourful, decorative Victorian pottery developed in the 1850s by many manufacturers,

0:34:530:34:58

-and this is an oyster dish.

-Oh!

0:34:580:35:00

So you could have your six oysters and your sauce, and this is a very standard majolica form.

0:35:000:35:06

If we flip it, this is the magic

0:35:060:35:09

because here are all the glaze numbers and names identified

0:35:090:35:14

and so what this is, is a factory test piece where they've tried out and recorded various glazes.

0:35:140:35:22

This is the biscuit, the single-fired, unglazed pottery.

0:35:220:35:26

They've then put on the glazes. And this was regular factory practice.

0:35:260:35:29

-But what is fascinating is that they rarely come out.

-They're thrown away.

-Exactly!

0:35:290:35:35

But it is a rarity on two counts - one that it's majolica,

0:35:350:35:38

and two, I've never seen a majolica test piece.

0:35:380:35:41

I've seen hundreds of test pieces, but never a majolica piece.

0:35:410:35:44

-How does £800 sound?

-Oh, my goodness! Yes.

0:35:440:35:48

-Wow!

-And that's very much an American-driven market.

0:35:480:35:52

-Yes.

-They are wild about oyster plates and a lot of majolica

0:35:520:35:56

and, to an American oyster-plate collector, this would be heaven.

0:35:560:36:00

-FRENCH ACCENT:

-They are family heirlooms and they were bought pre-war -

0:36:030:36:08

1920, I think.

0:36:080:36:10

From your accent, you are French?

0:36:100:36:14

-Yes, I am.

-So, are you telling me they were bought in France?

0:36:140:36:18

Yes.

0:36:180:36:20

That doesn't surprise me because the French together with the rest of Europe and Britain and America

0:36:200:36:26

were very keen to import Chinese porcelain.

0:36:260:36:29

There was a great Chinese porcelain craze

0:36:290:36:32

throughout the 18th and especially the late 19th century.

0:36:320:36:37

Now, looking at your pair of vases,

0:36:370:36:40

from a distance anybody would be forgiven for thinking they were 18th-century,

0:36:400:36:46

because they're in that style.

0:36:460:36:49

They're in the famille rose style, to take a French phrase.

0:36:490:36:54

The composition is basically flowering peonies.

0:36:540:36:58

You have branches which incorporate twin birds -

0:36:580:37:02

there's a symbolism here, which is marital bliss.

0:37:020:37:06

And if you notice the blue enamel...

0:37:060:37:09

If this was an 18th-century example, if you turn it into the light,

0:37:090:37:14

you would probably see a slight iridescence around the blue enamel,

0:37:140:37:18

but because we're looking at something from around about 1870, you'll find it is iridescent-free.

0:37:180:37:25

A nice composition - the only thing that lets it down is the material on which they're painted,

0:37:250:37:33

because it's far from perfect porcelain.

0:37:330:37:36

-So, I suppose it's a case of combien?

-Combien? How much?

-Mm.

0:37:360:37:41

I would say you're looking at the best part of £800, should you wish to replace them.

0:37:410:37:47

Gosh! That's lovely. Thank you.

0:37:470:37:49

-You can translate that into euros later.

-Oh, yes, definitely!

0:37:490:37:53

-That's very nice. Thank you.

-Merci bien.

-Merci beaucoup, monsieur.

0:37:530:37:57

One of the most popular exports from Japan in the 19th century was bronze elephants.

0:37:570:38:05

They really appealed to the Victorian mind.

0:38:050:38:09

I think there's the sort of link with Africa and India and the Raj and all that -

0:38:090:38:16

the Empire - and the elephant really epitomised that perfectly well.

0:38:160:38:21

In India, the East India Company nabobs

0:38:210:38:25

were shooting tigers from the top of elephants,

0:38:250:38:28

so this is the kind of scene they would have seen out there.

0:38:280:38:32

-Where did yours come from?

-This came from my father.

0:38:320:38:35

-I don't know any more of its history than that.

-And you've now got it?

-Yes.

-Do you like it?

-Yes.

0:38:350:38:40

-Did you know it was Japanese?

-Oriental.

-Oriental was as far as you'd got.

0:38:400:38:46

It would have to be Japanese -

0:38:460:38:49

nobody else was capable of casting as well as this, at that time.

0:38:490:38:55

They were absolute masters of it.

0:38:550:38:58

The way they've textured the skin on here

0:38:580:39:02

and contrasted it with the tiger with his stripes here,

0:39:020:39:07

slightly in relief and burnished against a slightly matt ground,

0:39:070:39:15

it's a virtuoso bit of metalwork, really.

0:39:150:39:17

But this is big, of its kind, and this is by a good maker.

0:39:170:39:23

-And if we turn it up... Are these loose?

-Yes, they are.

0:39:230:39:27

-Do they come out?

-Yep.

0:39:270:39:28

I don't want them to drop off.

0:39:280:39:31

Oh, it's incredibly heavy!

0:39:330:39:35

We've got here a mark which says...

0:39:380:39:43

..Dai Nippon - which is Great Japan.

0:39:440:39:48

Genryusai Seiya.

0:39:480:39:51

Now, Seiya was the major, or one of the major,

0:39:510:39:55

casters of animal groups in the 19th century, and here we're looking at about 1880, something like that.

0:39:550:40:02

Now, if we put him back again...

0:40:040:40:06

He's a terrific group.

0:40:070:40:09

I think this would easily make £3,000.

0:40:090:40:13

-Happy with that?

-Very.

0:40:130:40:15

It's probably been in our family for about 80-90 years.

0:40:150:40:18

-It came from my great-grandmother to my grandmother.

-Yes.

0:40:180:40:22

It bypassed my mother and came straight to me.

0:40:220:40:25

It will become evident when you open the box why I inherited it.

0:40:250:40:29

Well, I can't wait to open up.

0:40:290:40:31

-Oh, isn't that absolutely beautiful?

-Yeah.

0:40:310:40:35

The first impression is a lot of attention to detail.

0:40:350:40:40

-Look at this lovely scrollwork on the hatpin box here.

-Yeah, it's...

0:40:400:40:44

Again, lovely condition, beautifully done.

0:40:440:40:47

-Now, is their relevance...?

-CA is my initials.

-Oh, that's wonderful.

0:40:470:40:52

-And that's just pure chance?

-Well, I don't know if you manufactured...

0:40:520:40:56

Absolute chance...

0:40:560:40:58

Well, cases like this were essential kit of ladies travelling in the 19th century.

0:40:580:41:05

They had to have protective boxes

0:41:050:41:08

to keep all the perfume and the paste and powders and what have you, and they're nearly always silver.

0:41:080:41:15

So we'll just see if this is marked, yeah...

0:41:150:41:19

-It's got a series of marks here. TW for Thomas Weller.

-Right.

0:41:210:41:25

He was a specialist case maker and has a date letter "l" there for 1866.

0:41:250:41:32

So pretty much mid-Victorian,

0:41:320:41:36

and this sort of engraving is just what you would expect from a piece of that date.

0:41:360:41:42

Very high quality, lovely condition.

0:41:420:41:46

So here we've got a mixture of scent bottles and paste pots

0:41:460:41:51

and one here, I see, has a push button.

0:41:510:41:54

I've always wondered why that one's different.

0:41:540:41:58

Well, that was to hold something of liquid and so it has a seal there.

0:41:580:42:03

I see.

0:42:030:42:04

-The main thing is about these dressing sets is that the glass is not damaged.

-Yes.

0:42:040:42:10

The more complete, the better.

0:42:100:42:13

And I see we've got a couple of pieces of the manicure set missing,

0:42:130:42:17

but basically, most of it is all here.

0:42:170:42:21

It's actually quite rare to get one in a mother-of-pearl box like this.

0:42:210:42:26

Normally they're made of coromandel wood with brass corners.

0:42:260:42:30

I have to ask whether it's on your insurance valuation.

0:42:300:42:34

-No.

-It's on the house insurance.

-On the house insurance?

-Yes.

0:42:340:42:38

I think you need to speak to your insurers.

0:42:380:42:42

-Right.

-Because I think you ought to have that insured for £8,000 or £9,000.

-Oh, gosh.

0:42:420:42:49

Oh, my goodness!

0:42:490:42:52

Well, it is such a rare box, to have one so beautifully done like this.

0:42:520:42:58

-Thank you so much for bringing it along.

-Thank you, great.

0:42:580:43:03

I was talking to a man here earlier at Woburn who is head verderer - he looks after all the deer.

0:43:030:43:08

And he said that he likes it to rain every other day to keep the grass nice and sweet.

0:43:080:43:14

I think it'll have to be tomorrow. It's been a scorcher here.

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