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The Roadshow has arrived at a city,

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which to be fair is just a babe compared with London or Edinburgh.

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It's just 50 years since Cardiff became Wales's capital and only 100 years since it became a city.

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Back in 1913 this port was the world's biggest exporter of coal.

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Steamships delivered it to the Americas,

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Africa, India, the Middle and Far East.

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Nowadays, ironically, the traffic's in the other direction -

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coal comes into Wales from South America and Australia.

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When the mining industry collapsed, the port had to reinvent itself.

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Now it's all go, a place for yachting, new housing, shops and restaurants

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and a barrage embankment which provides the bay with a freshwater lake and water front.

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Coal may no longer be king here, but the name of the man who reigned over the industry is everywhere.

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Not much of a Welsh ring to those.

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No, it was a Scottish laird who cast his gaze over the mineral-rich lands of South Wales in 1814,

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the 2nd Marquis of Bute became known as the "maker of modern Cardiff".

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As coal production increased, he built a canal and a dock. The Taff railway provided rapid connections

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between the coalfields in the Welsh valleys and Bute Dock.

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In 1848, an infant called John Patrick Crichton-Stuart woke up to realise that

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he was the 3rd Marquis of Bute and the richest baby in Britain.

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This is him, some years later.

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This rich man's hobby was architecture and it led to

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the extravagant restoration of Cardiff Castle and the nearby Castell Coch.

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The 3rd Marquis became a figurehead for Cardiff, for a time he even served as mayor.

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Later on, he sold Cathays Park, a former Bute home, to Cardiff Corporation,

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stipulating that the avenue of trees be retained and that only public buildings be built here.

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And on that site now the National Museum and Art Gallery,

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the Law Courts, the University of Wales and the location for our Antiques Roadshow today,

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the handsome City Hall.

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I love this little calling card up the top here.

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It says, "Made from sycamore wood cut down by the Right Honourable WE Gladstone

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"on the Hawarden Estate." Where did you get it from?

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Well, we went to a boot sale. I've seen it there

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and I asked how much it was. The gentleman said £50, I said, "A lovely dress screen."

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I unwrapped it and then I'd seen all these signatures.

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What is it? A country house collection, do you think, of people's signatures?

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Yeah. The owners, instead of getting them to sign visitors books or something like that,

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had got them to sign little pieces of paper or give their signed calling cards

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and mounted them in this screen. You've got some wonderful ones -

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there's Thomas Edison here... Right.

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..the American, and down here

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you've got another lovely little grouping, you've got Hall Caine, the author,

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and Henry James the author as well. You've got all sorts of people. It is quite extraordinary,

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All the great and the good, and probably the not-so-good as well.

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We've got another one, a great Cardiff item here. Bute, the Marquis of Bute. Oh, right.

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He was Mayor of Cardiff. Right.

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And obviously did quite a lot for Cardiff. Are you going to do this trick with it?

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Let's close it up.

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The horror is that we'll open it up and find we've got the same side. This side is even more spectacular.

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Wilkie Collins, who wrote The Moonstone and The Woman In White,

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and was credited with the first detective fiction, Lillie Langtry, Edward VII's mistress.

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It's all quite extraordinary and it's wonderful to speculate

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what sort of parties these people had - the king's mistress.

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I don't see the king having signed this, Edward VII having signed it at all. I mean you've got how many?

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529 signatures. You've counted every one? Yes.

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Have you catalogued every one? No.

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Written them all down? Not at the moment. You've got everybody here.

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As a screen, I'm sure, a late 19th-century screen, certainly worth the £50 you paid for it.

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But I have to say it's the signatures that really interest me, they're fantastic,

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everybody who you could want, really, from the late 19th century,

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so I value this between £2,000 and £3,000. Really? Nice thing to dress behind, isn't it? Yes.

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Thank you for bringing it in. My pleasure, thank you. Lovely.

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Now, do you live in a very Victorian house?

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No, we don't, we live in a 1970s house.

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So how do you accommodate such a Victorian object in your house?

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We have a large lounge and it sits on a gate-leg table quite happily.

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Technically speaking, these things are called dioramas

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and the diorama description is of a fixed group of objects that are

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viewed from a particular aspect, normally through an aperture, which is exactly what this is.

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Yes. But it's a diorama with a difference, isn't it?

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Yes. Because here we've got this family of red squirrels,

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all gentlemen, I think. Yes, yes.

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Disporting themselves in an incredibly Victorian interior

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and frankly, this is Victorian England in one little space.

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Yes, it is. I love the arrangement of pictures, entirely children, to sum up the fun of the thing.

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And the old enemy for the squirrel is Reynard the Fox doing his stuff in the middle of it.

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Absolutely. And that's a big joke.

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Yes. They're enjoying a glass of port wine on something called a loo table, a very Victorian table. Right.

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They're playing the game of cards, loo, which is brilliant. Yes.

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But what I really love is the fact that that squirrel there is... Yes.

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..giving a message to his partner on the other side of the table

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by showing the cards in the mirror behind, which is really naughty.

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Yes, absolutely.

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How did it come into your house?

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Well, we've owned it since 1987 when my father-in-law died.

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My husband remembers it coming to his parents' house in 1951

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via his grandfather, who accepted it as payment in lieu of a debt. And what did the grandfather do?

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Well, he was in a bakery business and general stores in London, so I mean that's quite feasible.

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Well, it must have been quite a debt, mustn't it?

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I think so, yes. To take this, to take this in lieu. Yes, absolutely.

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Well, it's a curious thing and some of these things were set up to sit

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in a Victorian parlour and sometimes they were taken around and shown on displays by travellers

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and they charged children a shilling to have a look at the squirrels' card party, or whatever. Right, yes.

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And those children would come in and they'd ooh and ah about it. It is a fantastic object.

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It is, yes, it's great fun. If you wanted an entire Victorian house within your house

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without having to move house, then this is for you, isn't it? Mm, yes.

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And I would have thought that you'd probably get between £5,000 and £8,000 for it. Would we?

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On a good day, who knows? £10,000.

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I don't know how endangered these red squirrels are. This is the trouble. They are today. Absolutely.

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I think they've been smoking and drinking, that's the trouble with it.

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This, I bought in a jumble sale when I was nine years of age

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and I paid the princely sum of two and sixpence for it.

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Half a crown? Yes, half a crown. Wow.

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I believe it's a George III tea caddy but obviously you're going to tell me all about it.

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Well, right, yes, it is a George III period tea caddy.

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This was the type of presentation box that you took...

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Instead of taking a box of chocolates or a bottle of wine, you took a little caddy of tea.

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Ah. And this would have been taken to a rather important lady for a very important tea table.

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That's what they called the occasion, the tea table, it was the big event for gossiping in the afternoon.

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Nothing to eat with it, just the presentation and serving of tea.

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It is decorated with a veneer of yew wood, burr yew, which gives this wonderful sort of ripply effect,

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and a typical shell on the top.

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When it was new, this was bright green background and then these were various shades of gold. Oh.

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And that shading is done by dipping each of those little bits into hot sand.

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Now, the important thing about it to us,

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particularly here, is the Prince of Wales feathers.

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Well, I wondered if there was a Welsh connection.

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Well, there's no telling. There's much more likely to be a connection between the person

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who gave it, or the recipient as an allegiance to the Prince of Wales rather than to the King. I see.

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So we know that it was given to,

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or belonged to, someone who was a Whig.

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Ah. Parliamentarian, right. Wow.

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So that, I think it starts to get interesting because now you're at the period when he was Prince of Wales,

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leader of high style fashion and a strict coterie of close friends

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and that showed a strict allegiance to him rather than the King.

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And that takes us into an academic piece of furniture. Oh, excellent.

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So it's worth more than half a crown? Oh, yes, just a little.

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Probably five bob now, 100% profit.

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Wonderful. I should think it's worth between £2,500 and £3,000.

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Never! Oh. Oh, yes, yes, wonderful. I don't believe it!

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Good gracious alive. I never dreamt it would be anything like that.

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I've not seen one with the Prince of Wales feathers on it in 40 years.

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Oh, you've made my day. I've seen hundreds of tea caddies, but not one like that.

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Wonderful. You've made my day too. Thank you.

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'What sort of date do you think it might be?'

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There is a little piece of paper inside that has 11th April 1905 written on it.

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Well, that's a start, but I think you're a little bit out with the date because...

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have you ever looked inside here? No. Well, a glance.

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There's the usual nib to open the thing at the bottom. Right.

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And there we are, we've got a full set of London hallmarks for 1822.

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Good heavens. So rather earlier than you thought.

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Yes. And I notice here

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that the watch is signed by George Stephenson and Warminster.

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Now, what are we doing with a Warminster watch in Cardiff?

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My father was, as I am, Bristolian and his father was Bristolian.

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So we are a Bristolian family. So pretty close to Warminster.

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Nothing to do with Cardiff, I've lived here for the last 30 years.

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It all ties up and you might have noticed this extra hand.

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Yes. It's a calendar hand. You've got one through to 31 there.

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A nice little touch. The hands are original, it's a very pretty thing.

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Lovely. So you've never actually looked at this piece of paper before?

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I've seen it but I've never removed it,

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just in case it disintegrated and it would have been a shame.

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All these sort of papers are what we call watch papers, advertising for the specific jeweller.

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Right. And on the back, it's not a presentation but it would have been the date of a repair.

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We'll just take it out gently without damaging the silk that's inside and oh, isn't that lovely?

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We have a little picture here of a shop front and in the windows

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are clocks hanging up, and up here, we have advertisements to say, "Gold and silver."

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And then it says "18/6d". Oh, that's lovely.

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So this would have been an advertisement for his shop. Yes.

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And having done the repair, he put that back in the watch case and then you'd know when it was last done.

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Oh, that's amazing. And you've never seen that before?

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Never ever seen that before, I'm not even sure whether my father had done. I love that.

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Sometimes, you'll get five or six,

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even ten of these in a watch and you can build up a history of when it was cleaned and repaired over many years.

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So that's when it was last in the repair shop. Isn't that fun?

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That's absolutely lovely. Oh, I'm so glad I brought that in now.

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So a silver pair case English verge watch.

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The sort of thing at auction - £220, £250.

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Yes, lovely. Thank you so much. That's lovely.

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Today, we're in a Sandon-free zone.

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Right. Which means that me and the chaps get an opportunity to talk about Royal Worcester.

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Do you like this? I do. It's my favourite piece. And my husband's favourite piece.

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It is? It's not ours, though, it's my father's, so...

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OK, but it's got your name written all over it in later years, has it?

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It has. Well, it's one of those pieces that the minute you see it,

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it shouts but one name, and that one name is George Owen.

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It's not signed, and to be frank it's one of those objects that

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it doesn't really need a signature, because the signature is the piece itself,

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and you've just got to marvel at this man. He's working in the early part of the 20th century.

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I think he actually locked himself in a room to do all this piercing.

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I did wonder how they actually do this.

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Well, he was very careful to keep the secret to himself. I mean, obviously he was big on patience -

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I mean, lots of patience - because it just beggars belief, doesn't it? It's fabulous.

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It is fabulous. Let's give it a bit of a twirl because you've got...

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You've got that lovely pierced ovoid body, and then look at that handle and look at the beading...

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You've got the beading on that top and then the actual lips themselves -

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you'll notice they're actually pierced as well with a pretty design.

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The gilding... Wow! It just sparkles like, you know... This should be with the crown jewels, it's so sparkly.

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This is quality with a capital Q, isn't it? It really is. Yeah.

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If I could go out and buy a single ewer to match that,

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I would probably have to pay... Well, probably more than £10,000.

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But it's only money. Yes.

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And aren't you pleased that you've made it clear that

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that was the piece that you wanted before I told you what it was worth?

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Thank you.

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We're in Wales, and the passion of this week's collector is mining memorabilia,

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but for Bill Richards it's not just a collection -

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it's a celebration of a way of life and a family history, because, Bill, you were a miner. Yes, I was, yes.

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How long were you down there?

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15 years. Man and boy.

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Man and boy, yes. And you're not the first miner in your family. No, all the family, on both sides,

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going back to 1840 - my grandfather,

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my great-grandfather...

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That's one from Bristol.

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That's your great-grandfather? That's my great-grandfather. A miner, as well. Miner, born in 1841.

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And were the women involved as well?

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My grandmother worked on the surface of a colliery in the Rhondda and she lost an arm, severed about there,

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making bricks when she was 16 in 1893.

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So, you've really earned your name as a mining family.

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Did your collection start from your own experience? Did you bring your own equipment?

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Well, I kept a lot of stuff when I left the colliery, and I was in business in Tonypandy,

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and a lot of my customers gave me stuff to display in the window, you know, and it's grown from there.

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It's interesting, this is all stuff that has a purpose and a useful working life,

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and yet it's quite lovely, as well. Now, what are these sort of tokens over here?

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When you sign on at a colliery,

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you were given a check, and on your first day when you go to the lamp room you'd take a lamp out...

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..off the shelf, take that away, and you hang the check in place,

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so that if at the end of the shift - say, two hours after the end of the shift - that check is still there...

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Proof that a man is missing.

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Proof he's still underground or he's missing. That's quite dramatic.

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I don't want to be morbid, but did you see any bad things when you were below?

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Well, yes, I think every miner saw that.

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The biggest thing that will remain with me for ever is the explosion of 1965 in Cambrian,

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when 31 of our colleagues died. They were shocking days, shocking. Yes.

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Now, what are these boxes? I mean, they look like something

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one of our experts would be pleased to see snuff in. What are they?

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Well, that's a tobacco box.

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And that is actually what we call a chew of tobacco,

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and you chew that...

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break it off and chew it, to keep your mouth moist and stop the penetration of the dust.

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And was that sort of something that they all had to do?

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Suppose you hated the taste. Well... Could you sell it to another miner?

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Oh, no, it was all given away, because someone would say, "Give us a chew,"

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and if you look at that box there, you see, what he did then, he'd put it like that... Yeah.

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..and that's why... That is worn away there. It's worn away there. Yes, fabulous.

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What's the star of your collection? Would I be right in guessing it's those watches?

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Because they are magnificent. Well, yes...

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That was one that I used, that was my father's, and that was his father's.

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He was killed in 1915. A tram run over his body, but I've been told that the watch was still going.

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The watch was working, I know, at one time, but it's not working any more.

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This is really concentrated family history, three generations. Yes.

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What do you want to happen to your collection? Are you interested in its actual value?

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Not particularly, because I just hope...

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I've got two grandsons and I've got a granddaughter coming,

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and I just hope that it'll be kept and passed on for them.

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It's a great story, Bill. Thank you.

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Do you come from a gambling family? Yes.

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You do? We have a local bookmaker's shop in Grangetown in Cardiff, yes.

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Ah, right, OK. And a social club.

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Where was the club? Oh, it's in Grangetown in Cardiff. Right. Still running at the moment.

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Where was this from? This is from the social club. Right, OK, and I take it no longer used, obviously.

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It's been in the front room for about 20 years. Right.

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I like Jennings machines a great deal. There's quite a history behind them. They were an American company

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I believe, based in Chicago, in fact, and some of their early machines from the 1930s are extremely stylish.

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Now, I believe that this model,

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which became a lot more sort of boxy and less complicated in its design,

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came in after about 1938, so hopefully that ties in with the history of the club.

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Um, it's called "The Governor" here, but obviously these are plates

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that were made for use in Britain, and a lovely piece of design.

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Now, unfortunately, it seems to be jammed.

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Yeah, I think my son jammed it.

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Ah, right, OK. A few years ago.

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I suspect if we could get into the back and have a look, it may be possible to unjam it.

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What's interesting, as well, is it's got its original stand, so it's a whole package, in fact.

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I think whether it's working or not, people like them for decoration - they're good-looking things.

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This obviously isn't one of the earliest examples, which can make a fair amount of money.

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As a later example, and as an auctioneer, I'd tend to put £400 to £600 on these for auction.

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Right, lovely. Thank you for bringing it.

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Yeah, thank you very much. Happy gambling. Yeah.

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Did you know it was 18th century? No.

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Do you know how to tell whether it's 18th or 19th century? No.

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Well, there are an awful lot of copies around and you have to be very careful and one way to tell

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is to take a pen and a piece of paper.

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Smaller on the top than the base.

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The fakes are almost invariably the other way round. Right.

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They never make the base big enough.

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Pretty sure-fire way of telling.

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This one dates from about 1755,

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with this lovely cotton-twist stem...

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Do you know how they made the cotton twist? No. Absolutely amazing...

0:21:200:21:23

You get an iron collar

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and you put a pattern of white glass rods and clear glass rods

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in the pattern you want. You heat the collar up until the glass has melted,

0:21:320:21:38

and you put an iron rod on one end and an iron rod on the other end

0:21:380:21:43

and two men walk the length of this hall,

0:21:430:21:48

and what started out that big, ends up that big,

0:21:480:21:53

and they break it up into sections and make it into a glass stem.

0:21:530:21:56

Then they put the foot on it, then they put the bowl on it.

0:21:560:22:00

Now the nice thing about this one is that we've got an inscription on here

0:22:000:22:05

in diamond point. This was actually engraved with, possibly a diamond ring,

0:22:050:22:10

but more likely a diamond fixed in bitumen on the end of a pencil,

0:22:100:22:17

and they've engraved it with this message. I can't see it -

0:22:170:22:20

I haven't my glasses - what does it say?

0:22:200:22:23

"A keepsake from..." Yeah.

0:22:230:22:25

"..Sarah Smith

0:22:250:22:27

"to Sarah Louise Ford."

0:22:270:22:30

Sarah Louise Ford would have been my great-grandmother.

0:22:300:22:33

I think it goes back further than that.

0:22:330:22:36

There might have been another one. Do you know the other person?

0:22:360:22:39

No, Ford was my grandmother's maiden name. They were from Bristol.

0:22:390:22:44

Well, it might be a later engraving, but I would have put that engraving to the beginning of the 19th century,

0:22:440:22:50

and that would take it back way beyond your great-grandmother,

0:22:500:22:55

but who knows? Um, very unusual, very sensitive message for this date,

0:22:550:23:02

a woman to a woman, very uncommon, and clearly done not a professional engraving,

0:23:020:23:07

but possibly even by Sarah herself.

0:23:070:23:10

Oh, right. Lovely thing.

0:23:100:23:13

Chip on the bottom - it will affect the price,

0:23:130:23:17

but it's boosted by the fact that you've got this unusual message on it.

0:23:170:23:22

You could easily see it making £400 to £600.

0:23:220:23:29

Very good. Nice thing. Thank you very much. Yes, thank you.

0:23:290:23:32

My grandfather bought her, and then she came down through the family

0:23:320:23:36

and after my mother died, she became mine.

0:23:360:23:39

Right, was that difficult? I mean, have you got brothers and sisters?

0:23:390:23:43

Yeah, five brothers and sisters but we have a rule that you're not allowed to argue, so we cut cards.

0:23:430:23:48

Anyway, your lucky card turned up and you finished up with her.

0:23:480:23:52

Yes. I mean she is an extremely smart society girl, isn't she?

0:23:520:23:57

Beautifully wrapped up in her musquash fur coat

0:23:570:24:02

with this delightful fur collar and her hair tied up in this exquisite way.

0:24:020:24:07

A sort of turbany thing. Turbany thing. It's made of bronze, it's made of cold-painted bronze,

0:24:070:24:13

which is a particular type of treatment for the surface of the bronze where you paint on cold,

0:24:130:24:19

after it's cooled, a colouring scheme, but it's discoloured over the years a bit with this.

0:24:190:24:26

That's why she's got different shades of colour. That's right.

0:24:260:24:30

So, the musquash coat itself is that sort of chocolaty brown,

0:24:300:24:34

and the fur collar is a slightly different and darker brown, as is her muff,

0:24:340:24:38

and then the head-dress is almost greenish.

0:24:380:24:41

I've been over her quite carefully and I can find no marks at all.

0:24:410:24:46

No, I know. That's why we don't know anything about her.

0:24:460:24:49

But, fortunately, I've seen one or two of these before. OK.

0:24:490:24:52

It's actually made in Austria. It's made by the Bergman family, and sometimes you get a "B",

0:24:520:24:58

a "B" in a vase-shaped ornament, stamped somewhere,

0:24:580:25:02

and that's an indication of the Bergman family.

0:25:020:25:05

Sometimes they're stamped "Namgreb" and Namgreb is Bergman backwards,

0:25:050:25:12

so those are two things to look out for, for this type of bronze. Right.

0:25:120:25:16

She's very special. Around about 1910-1915.

0:25:160:25:21

Bit earlier than we thought, then.

0:25:210:25:23

Bit earlier than you thought, but she has a special feature, doesn't she?

0:25:230:25:27

And if we get hold of the edge of her coat...

0:25:270:25:30

Da-da!

0:25:300:25:32

She does literally reveal all. She always makes you laugh when you do that. She makes you laugh?!

0:25:320:25:39

But what I think is so extraordinary is that her silk stockings finish here...

0:25:390:25:43

I've never seen a bronze finished with silk stockings. It's a bit naughty, really, isn't it?

0:25:430:25:50

And, of course, she's wearing boots. I know. Really wonderful.

0:25:500:25:54

Wonderful. The whole business of wearing no knickers but wearing a fur coat has a new connotation

0:25:540:26:00

when you're looking at an old work of art, like this.

0:26:000:26:04

She's just gorgeous, and her boots are so chunky and she's so elegant.

0:26:040:26:07

I know. Very, very schoolboyish, I have to say, but delightful

0:26:070:26:12

and incredibly commercial. This sort of thing is popular on the market,

0:26:120:26:17

it's popular worldwide. I can't imagine why, but anyway it is,

0:26:170:26:21

and if I was valuing it, I'd put an estimate, a cheeky estimate, of probably £1,800 to £2,500,

0:26:210:26:28

because of its type, it's a very good one. Yes.

0:26:280:26:30

Thanks for bringing it in. Thank you.

0:26:300:26:32

This is a really interesting picture and I actually know straightaway who this is by.

0:26:330:26:37

If you look very carefully on the right-hand side here, we see Fred Yates incised in the paint.

0:26:370:26:44

Now, Fred Yates was an artist who was born in Manchester in the 1920s,

0:26:440:26:49

but from the '70s, he was living in Cornwall. This is very much a Cornish street scene, like Helford,

0:26:490:26:54

and it's beautifully painted and spontaneously painted.

0:26:540:26:58

When you look at the style of the painting, it reminds you of Helen Bradley, and before that, Lowry.

0:26:580:27:03

And is this something that you've had for a while?

0:27:030:27:06

Well, I bought it about

0:27:060:27:09

four or five months ago in a car-boot sale. Car-boot sale?

0:27:090:27:13

Yeah. And I asked the woman how much she wanted for it,

0:27:130:27:17

and she said, "Ten pence."

0:27:170:27:19

Ten pence?! Yeah. I don't believe it.

0:27:190:27:21

Yeah, ten pence, so... Well, that's fantastic!

0:27:210:27:24

Well, Fred Yates, over the last 12 months, has become very, very popular,

0:27:240:27:29

and your ten pence has turned into £700 to £1,000.

0:27:290:27:34

Crikey. And, I mean, that is amazing - ten pence.

0:27:340:27:40

What can you tell me about its history?

0:27:420:27:45

Well, it was left to me by my great-grandmother.

0:27:450:27:48

Right. So that would put it back - what? - into the 19th century, do you think? Yes, I should think so.

0:27:480:27:54

Yes, right. The features that I think make it such a lovely object

0:27:540:28:00

are the way the potter has been able to recreate the tabby markings on the cat so effectively

0:28:000:28:05

with these wonderful stripes.

0:28:050:28:07

And also to give it this really strange feel which...

0:28:070:28:11

You know, it's rough but it's smooth - it's what we call "salt glaze".

0:28:110:28:15

Oh, right. And it involves putting the pieces into a kiln,

0:28:150:28:19

and at a certain key point in the firing process, you put salt

0:28:190:28:24

in the top of the kiln, it falls down onto the pieces inside the kiln,

0:28:240:28:29

reacts and creates this wonderful effect. Almost grainy.

0:28:290:28:34

Yes, this is a Staffordshire cat. Oh.

0:28:340:28:38

It was made in two pieces. Yes.

0:28:380:28:41

And flat clay was pressed into a mould,

0:28:410:28:43

but when you look underneath it, the tabby markings on the outside...

0:28:430:28:48

Go right inside. ..are also on the inside, which seems rather strange.

0:28:480:28:53

The reason for that is that the body of the cat is what we call agate -

0:28:530:28:58

it's made of a mixture of different clays all swirled together.

0:28:580:29:03

It's quite a skilled technique to do it,

0:29:030:29:06

but when the clay is then rolled out and pressed into the mould, you get this wonderful effect.

0:29:060:29:11

In the 1920s, some excavations were carried out in Staffordshire

0:29:110:29:17

and the broken pieces of similar cats to this were found

0:29:170:29:22

buried in the ground on the site of a pottery there,

0:29:220:29:26

so this is a cat that dates from about 1745.

0:29:260:29:30

Gosh. They're really quite rare,

0:29:300:29:32

um, and I think we'd really be looking at a figure in the region of £2,000 to £3,000.

0:29:320:29:38

Never! Yeah.

0:29:380:29:39

Oh, my gosh!

0:29:390:29:42

It's a wonderful little cat. Oh, yes.

0:29:420:29:46

And it was your great-grandfather who established David Morgan,

0:29:490:29:53

which became the largest department store in Wales.

0:29:530:29:55

That's right - David Morgan on the picture there.

0:29:550:29:59

A great landmark in Cardiff, certainly.

0:29:590:30:01

And it sadly, after 125 years, will soon be closed.

0:30:010:30:06

Will be closing at the end of January, next January,

0:30:060:30:10

but in the meantime we celebrate our 125th anniversary this October.

0:30:100:30:15

I don't know if you realise it, but I do have a personal connection with this place.

0:30:150:30:21

I had received a hint, and by sheer coincidence, I have the documentary evidence here.

0:30:210:30:28

Oh. Your record card when you were with us 50 years ago.

0:30:280:30:33

I can't deny that, of course.

0:30:330:30:35

The evidence is there - your signature. Yes. Good references, though.

0:30:350:30:38

And I worked for your family store for quite some time as a sort of salesman,

0:30:380:30:45

but I was getting into broadcasting at the same time here in Cardiff in the early '50s. Yes.

0:30:450:30:50

And I was allowed to have time off by Mr Gerald, who was your...?

0:30:500:30:55

My uncle. I was doing Children's Hour Serial Play, and he let me off for four of the episodes,

0:30:550:31:00

but he wouldn't let me off for the fifth. I said "I get killed in that episode - I must go,"

0:31:000:31:04

and he said, "Choose between the BBC and David Morgan," so I went to the BBC and I did the thing,

0:31:040:31:10

and when I came back, he said, "I told you you had to choose," and I said, "I have chosen the BBC,"

0:31:100:31:15

and he said, "I do not accept your resignation - you are dismissed," and here it is. There it is.

0:31:150:31:21

"Reason for leaving - absent without permission."

0:31:210:31:24

Yes. Oh, have you forgiven me?

0:31:240:31:26

Oh, I think after 50 years we can forgive you.

0:31:260:31:29

Well, you are obviously very keen on jewellery, aren't you?

0:31:320:31:35

My husband always bought me nice jewellery. Did he? Did he buy you this?

0:31:350:31:39

No, I was left it by a great-aunt about 30 years ago,

0:31:390:31:44

and, apparently... I think it's like a Polish origin, because this lady,

0:31:440:31:50

it was an engagement present instead of a ring,

0:31:500:31:54

and then some Polish connections.

0:31:540:31:56

But I'd love to know the value, and I'm afraid to wear it because it's valuable.

0:31:560:32:01

What did you feel when you opened that box, when you were first left it? Was that an exciting moment?

0:32:010:32:06

It was, yes, because I hadn't seen such a lovely piece, and I didn't know that she had this thing.

0:32:060:32:13

Well, lovely it certainly is, and, my goodness, it's decorated.

0:32:130:32:16

And I'd love to know what the stones are and...

0:32:160:32:19

Right, shall we run through those quickly? All right, then.

0:32:190:32:23

That's a chrysoberyl there. Yes.

0:32:230:32:26

And that's a hessonite garnet called a "jacinth", and there's an amethyst and a pink topaz and a turquoise.

0:32:260:32:34

Pink topaz? That's my lucky stone, because I'm a Halloween birthday.

0:32:340:32:38

You're a Halloween birthday?

0:32:380:32:39

Yes, and my name's Mrs Wookey, so I'm Wookey the witch. Wookey the witch? Well, that's fantastic.

0:32:390:32:45

The turquoise, and there's a peridot at the end,

0:32:450:32:47

but it's spattered with turquoises and rubies and it's...

0:32:470:32:51

Rubies?

0:32:510:32:52

Oh, I see a ruby there. Oh, yes, I hadn't noticed those.

0:32:520:32:56

It's an amazingly rich-looking object, isn't it?

0:32:560:32:59

Have you tried to understand what these funny girls are all over it?

0:32:590:33:02

What are they all about? I've no idea at all.

0:33:020:33:05

Well, they're in national costume. Oh, I see. Of what country?

0:33:050:33:09

It's not Poland - it's actually Switzerland.

0:33:090:33:12

Switzerland? I'm surprised at that. These are the...

0:33:120:33:15

And each little portrait of a girl in national costume

0:33:150:33:19

is actually paralleled with a shield emblematic of a Swiss canton.

0:33:190:33:25

Oh, Swiss canton? Swiss canton, yeah.

0:33:250:33:27

And these little panels are painted enamel, so truly astonishing

0:33:270:33:31

and it's rather older than you think. How old do you think? Older than me?

0:33:310:33:35

Well, it's certainly older than me!

0:33:350:33:37

And it's made in about 1840. 1840?

0:33:370:33:43

Yeah. And it's a souvenir. What do you think of that? Souvenir.

0:33:430:33:48

Well, it was bought as an engagement present.

0:33:480:33:51

I mean, I think, you know, what we can be certain of is if it was given in an engagement present,

0:33:510:33:56

that wasn't the first owner - it was already an old thing by that time.

0:33:560:34:00

Switzerland, particularly Geneva, is a centre for enamelling and watch making,

0:34:000:34:04

and when you went to Switzerland, which was an accessible place to go to on a grand tour of the continent

0:34:040:34:10

in the 19th century, you wanted to bring back a little flavour of what you'd seen,

0:34:100:34:15

and you'd probably be taken round enamelling factories and watch-making factories...

0:34:150:34:20

It's a souvenir of the grandest possible type.

0:34:200:34:23

It would have cost an absolute bomb in its own time. Oh. Lucky girl who received it. Yes.

0:34:230:34:27

It's in fantastic order. There's some damage to the enamel there, which I don't think is too serious.

0:34:270:34:33

It's a miraculous piece of craftsmanship to work up this wonderfully malleable gold...

0:34:330:34:39

It's almost a sort of museum quality thing, terribly exciting, and if you found it in an antique shop

0:34:390:34:45

specialising in jewellery, you'd be asked something in the region of...£8,000.

0:34:450:34:51

£8,000?! Oh, that's a nice lot. Another few cruises.

0:34:510:34:57

Very, very good. Absolutely brilliant. Fantastic. Thank you very much.

0:34:570:35:02

And the locomotive itself, because it's in such nice condition

0:35:020:35:05

is worth probably around about £120 to £180.

0:35:050:35:09

I like this because it's in GWR livery, God's Wonderful Railway, of course. Everyone loves GWR.

0:35:090:35:15

It's an engineering tour de force underneath here,

0:35:150:35:18

where we've got a ribbon of brass and then these solid steel supports,

0:35:180:35:24

each of which go to bits of bamboo

0:35:240:35:28

and finish up with the ivory terminals. That is an extremely rare and very beautiful example.

0:35:280:35:36

I'd give you more for this one than I would for all those brollies on that heap -

0:35:360:35:40

between £400 and £600.

0:35:400:35:42

Never. Yeah. Wow...

0:35:420:35:43

John Lennon bought it about 1967.

0:35:450:35:48

Bought this very figure? Yeah. Wow.

0:35:480:35:51

And gave it as a gift to Yoko Ono...

0:35:510:35:55

Fantastic. ..when they lived together in Kenwood in Weybridge, between '67 and 1970 I think.

0:35:550:36:02

That's amazing.

0:36:020:36:04

Are you a bit of a Beatles fan yourself? Oh, yeah, I love the Beatles,

0:36:040:36:07

but I also collect Royal Doulton and I do have several other figures, so the connection...

0:36:070:36:12

And it so happens that this is Royal Doulton. Yes, that's correct.

0:36:120:36:16

The great thing is that you don't have to be a rocket scientist to spot Royal Doulton,

0:36:160:36:22

because it's so beautifully stamped. The backstamp's always very clear on the underside,

0:36:220:36:26

and what we've got on the underside here, we've got the Geisha and also the backstamp of Royal Doulton,

0:36:260:36:34

and this particular figure was produced between 1927 and 1938 by Charles Noke

0:36:340:36:38

who was actually one of most influential figures throughout the whole history of Royal Doulton.

0:36:380:36:44

Yes, yes. It has collectability just because it's Royal Doulton. Yes, yes.

0:36:440:36:49

But the amazing fact that it was purchased by John Lennon...

0:36:490:36:53

Now have you got any sort of proof? At the end of the day, it's all very well having hearsay.

0:36:530:36:57

It just so happens I have some...

0:36:570:36:59

Sorry. Here it is.

0:36:590:37:01

What have we got here? Well, this...

0:37:010:37:04

I'll just give you that, shall I?

0:37:040:37:06

That's a signed letter from

0:37:060:37:10

Ken and Margaret Brunt who were the haulage contractors of the Beatles between 1967 and 1970. Yeah.

0:37:100:37:17

And, in fact, when the Beatles broke up in 1970, John Lennon gave it as a gift to Ken and Margaret Brunt.

0:37:170:37:24

So here we have concrete proof that John Lennon actually gave this to the hauliers. Absolutely, yes.

0:37:240:37:31

As a gift. What a fantastic thing to do.

0:37:310:37:34

And a number of other documents, such as an Apple headed letter to Mr Brunt,

0:37:340:37:39

organising some car tax, I think, and... But it just guarantees the authenticity of the letter.

0:37:390:37:44

Yes, yeah. I've just spotted at the top here, a bit of restoration. What's the story behind that?

0:37:440:37:51

Yes, when I bought it,

0:37:510:37:54

the tip of the mandolin...

0:37:540:37:56

Yeah. ..was broken and it had been glued back on.

0:37:560:37:59

I had it professionally repaired, as you can see.

0:37:590:38:02

Yeah. It's a beautiful piece of...

0:38:020:38:04

She's quite revealing for a 1920s figure, don't you think? That's right, yes.

0:38:040:38:09

Because of the damage,

0:38:090:38:10

I could see a figure like this at a general auction sale being valued at between £150 and £250.

0:38:100:38:17

Because it's quite a rare figure in good condition, you're looking at more £300 to £400

0:38:170:38:22

for a figurine. Maybe more,

0:38:220:38:23

but that's at auction. Now, what did you pay for it?

0:38:230:38:27

Um, a lot more than that actually.

0:38:270:38:29

Yeah, yeah, well, that's fine. How much?

0:38:290:38:32

About £700, £800.

0:38:320:38:35

Well, that's fine, because anything connected with John Lennon, you know, turns to gold.

0:38:350:38:41

That's why I bought it, really,

0:38:410:38:43

that connection. Thank you very much.

0:38:430:38:45

Let me ask you why it is so dirty - do you not look after it?

0:38:480:38:51

No, it lives in a box in the attic because it's so ugly.

0:38:510:38:55

Really? Who banished it up there?

0:38:550:38:58

My wife. And how long ago did she put it up there, dare I ask?

0:38:580:39:02

Well, it was given to me about five years ago and it was put straight into the attic.

0:39:020:39:07

But who would give you a clock that you didn't like that much? A friend or family or...? My uncle.

0:39:070:39:13

Do you remember it working in his house when you were a youngster?

0:39:130:39:17

No, it worked in my grandfather's house when I was about 11 years old.

0:39:170:39:21

That would be during the war.

0:39:210:39:23

Right, well, it would be silly for me to say to you, "Do you know where it came from?" Because the "Paris"

0:39:230:39:29

on the dial is a bit of a give-away, so we clearly know it's French.

0:39:290:39:33

Underneath all this filth and mess, we have the most wonderful bronze bull,

0:39:330:39:39

and he is standing on a magnificent ormolu stand, and then we have this lady on the top.

0:39:390:39:47

Now, do you know who she is? Europa.

0:39:470:39:49

Europa. Absolutely right.

0:39:490:39:51

And this of course signifies the Rape of Europa,

0:39:510:39:54

when Zeus turned himself into the bull and theoretically raped her.

0:39:540:39:59

The casting of her is absolutely sensational.

0:39:590:40:03

I'm just looking at things like the detail on her sandal. She is absolutely beautifully cast,

0:40:030:40:10

and all these very, very fine Louis XVI clocks

0:40:100:40:14

are signed on the back plate, and we've got the most magnificent signature along there.

0:40:140:40:19

Sennellier, I don't know really particularly well.

0:40:190:40:24

You're lucky - look. The original pendulum is still there,

0:40:240:40:30

and that hangs on the little silk, and the actual pendulum swings within the tummy of the bull.

0:40:300:40:36

The bell's missing, but bar that, that movement would clean up a treat,

0:40:360:40:42

and it's a lovely top-quality French movement. Would it still work?

0:40:420:40:45

Oh, it would still work. That could be very easily done.

0:40:450:40:50

You're probably gathering I'm rather excited about this. Yes, yes. And you still hate it, don't you?

0:40:530:41:00

Well, I think my wife might still, but I'm getting to be quite...

0:41:000:41:05

Getting keener. Yes. Getting keener. What sort of sum do you think would tempt it to come out of the cupboard?

0:41:050:41:12

I really don't know.

0:41:120:41:14

I did take photographs of it to an auction house,

0:41:140:41:18

and they told me something like £300, £400.

0:41:180:41:22

How long ago was that?

0:41:220:41:25

Oh, ten years.

0:41:250:41:27

Right, OK, that's still a bit mean in those days,

0:41:270:41:32

so if I said to you it's worth £4,500,

0:41:320:41:37

would that tempt you to bring it out and make sure she enjoyed it?

0:41:370:41:40

Yes, I think she would enjoy it.

0:41:400:41:42

Well, that's what you'd have to pay for a 19th-century copy.

0:41:420:41:46

This is the real thing.

0:41:460:41:48

Even in this state I think your initial offer would be in the region of £20,000.

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Twenty? £20,000 in the rough, like this. Good heavens!

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And by the time it's been lovingly cleaned, restored, everything done beautifully,

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you're not going to replace this retail,

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anything under £30,000 to £35,000.

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Would you mind telling me again, how much?

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In the rough, like this,

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I think in the region of £20,000.

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Good heavens above!

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My wife will never believe it. Absolutely marvellous.

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Great.

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There are some very early birds in Cardiff. The first visitor arrived here this morning at five o'clock,

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and we don't open the doors till nine.

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All day, the City Hall has been humming with the discreet sounds of the Antiques Roadshow,

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but I remember when it echoed to the more raucous noises of the jitterbug and the quickstep,

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because we came here, in the '50s when I lived in Cardiff, every Saturday night for the weekly hop.

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Happy memories. And we're coming back.

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Next time, we shall be having a look at the castle and other treasures. Until then, from all of us, goodbye.

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