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# On Christmas night all Christians sing | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
# To hear the news the angels bring | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
# On Christmas night all Christians sing | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
# To hear the news the angels bring... # | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
We have returned to King's College, Cambridge. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
# ..Then why should men on earth be so sad? | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
# Since our Redeemer made us glad. # | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
The annual festival of lessons and carols from King's | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
has been broadcast for more than 70 years, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
but the choir itself, like the college and the chapel, was founded by Henry VI, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
more than 500 years ago. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Henry wanted the chapel to be without equal in size and beauty... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
an incredibly ambitious task... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
which eventually took five kings, four master masons | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
and an army of craftsmen over a century to complete. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
It took just three of those years | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
to construct the largest fan-vaulted stone ceiling anywhere in the world. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
From below, the intricately carved stonework looks delicate, even fragile, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
but each of the central bosses actually weighs a ton. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
And from way up here in the space between the ceiling and the roof, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
you can tell just how solid it all is. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
Sir Christopher Wren admired the great ceiling and came up here several times | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
to try and work out how it was done, so that he could replicate it. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
He never managed to achieve that, but I'm sure he enjoyed the choir. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
The purity of the human voices is enhanced by the acoustics of the building. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:13 | |
Each note is said to hang in the air for five seconds. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
The chapel is the most popular tourist attraction in Cambridge | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
and it's easy to see why. Now let's test the pulling power of the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
Well, I just love printing presses | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
and this one, because it is so small, is even more adorable. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
Where did you get it? My father - a terrible cadger of free objects - | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
found it at a business that he was doing some work for, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
and, having the cheek of the Devil, he said, "Can I have it?" | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
and they said yes. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
He intended to take it to an industrial archaeology museum | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
but it got no further than my house because I said, "Me, please." You were a terrible cadger, too! | 0:02:54 | 0:03:00 | |
Anyway, Frederick Ullmer, Albion Press. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Well, the Albion presses came first in the 1820s | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
but Frederick Ullmer was a lot later than that. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
He was making Albion presses, or little Albion presses, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
in about the 1870s, 1860s-1870s, and I think this dates from that. Yes. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
It's lovely because it's got the original colour, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
it's green and there's a little gilding round the top here, round this crown and this - | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
where you put the pressure on for the plate - is still in wonderful order. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:33 | |
You've brought some typeface, as well. I have, yes. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
That, as far as I'm concerned, is much later than the printing press. Oh, it is, yes. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
Right, you're the master printer, you're the master cadger, show us how it works. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:46 | |
Right, having rolled up the block underneath... Yes. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
..one carefully feeds the... It's very like Caxton's original press. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Absolutely, yes. It hadn't changed really for several centuries. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
Use pressure. That's it. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Pressure down on it | 0:03:59 | 0:04:00 | |
and wheel it out, and, with a bit of luck, we have a print. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
So, let's have a look. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
That's tremendous. It's a bit smudged but that's absolutely wonderful. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
It's a little bicycle. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
People think that, because they're small, they're for amateurs, but they're not. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
People who had large printing presses would use these for hand bills | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
and smaller pieces of stationery and things like that. Yes. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
So it is an absolutely perfect working Victorian model of a printing press. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:33 | |
It is absolutely tremendous. Now, do you have any idea of value? | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
I haven't a clue. I never have had. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Well, I think if you went into the market today | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
and you had buy one of these, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
you'd be talking about £1,500 to £2,000. Really? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
Yes, yes. And you print off this? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Occasionally, yes. It has seen Christmas cards pass through it. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
If I give you my address, will you send me a Christmas card? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
You could try, yes. You could hope for it. I don't see why not. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
Well, thank you very much. Thank you. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
Adorable item, as I say. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
This was produced by my great grandmother and she left it to her son, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:08 | |
Joseph Whiteside Wakinshaw. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
In her will, it says, "My picture in needlework of Bolton Abbey." | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
Oh, after the Landseer of course. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Absolutely, yes. And who was the seamstress? | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
Who was the stitcher? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:23 | |
She was a woman. She was born Ruth Whiteside, and you can see that on the sampler. Oh, yes. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:29 | |
She did that when she was 13. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
And so she then graduated from that... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
To this. ..To something a little larger. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Well, I think she did this... I don't know the date of Landseer's painting. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
Actually, I don't know either, but I can say that Landseer | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
was at the height of his popularity in the 1840s, which is when Berlin woolwork | 0:05:45 | 0:05:51 | |
was at the height of its popularity, which this is a great example of. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
Berlin woolwork was something invented in Berlin. It was the first time that squared paper | 0:05:56 | 0:06:03 | |
had been printed into patterns where one square represented one square of the canvas... | 0:06:03 | 0:06:10 | |
Stitching by numbers, really. Yes. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
And it became hugely, hugely popular. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Queen Victoria, for instance... | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
There are reports of her actually sitting | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
and doing her Berlin woolwork during meetings with Prime Ministers, and so on. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
That compulsive? Yes. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
There are a couple of things that detract from its appeal. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:32 | |
One is that it is slightly faded, but it's faded in a uniform way, which is something. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:38 | |
The second thing, of course, is that it shows a dead animal. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
Yes. Now, it's a lovely dead animal. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Politically incorrect. But a bit UPC, yes. Absolutely. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
So that will have an effect on the value | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
but, to compensate, it's got this fabulous rosewood frame of extraordinary dimensions. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
Yes. I mean, it weighs a ton. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
I bet it does. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
Value of this - | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
we'd be talking about perhaps £1,000 to £1,500 at auction. Oh, really? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:08 | |
Yes. Now let's turn to this little poppet. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
It really is so lovely. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
First of all, it's named and dated. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
Secondly, it's got a very attractive border around it. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
It has very neat colourful stitching, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
but the thing that makes it exceptional is this frieze of children at the bottom here. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
There's a boy holding a sheaf of corn. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
There's a toddler holding an animal of some description... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
a sheep perhaps. I think it's a sheep. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
A sheep. A boy here holding his hat and probably the mother figure here. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
That really brings the whole thing to life in an extraordinary way. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:54 | |
The surprising thing, I suppose, about this, is the value... | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
because, although it is a tiny proportion of the size of this piece of Berlin woolwork, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:04 | |
this is so perfect and so desirable that this would probably have a similar sort of price. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
We'd be talking about around £1,000. Really? | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
For this little sampler here. You do surprise me. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
So, are you a stitcher yourself? | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Yes, but only of kits. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
Me too, but at least we can pretend that we're doing the real thing. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
Yes, yes. Thanks for bringing them. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
Thank you very much indeed. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
That's rather nice, a little miniature of... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
looks like Pope Gregory XIII... | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
it's been in the wars. Yes. Tell me about it. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
My father lived in a converted lifeboat on the River Cam. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
And was in the Home Guard. Yes. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
And spent his life fishing. Yes. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
It's one of the items that came out of the water. Came out of the water? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
Yes, during the war. I wonder what the story was behind it. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Did someone throw it away or do you think it was...? I have no idea. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
It seems such an odd thing to throw away. It's on a nice piece of copper, | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
which is an expensive medium to paint on, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
but it looks like it's been cut down. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
I think it's probably a copy after Titian, who painted a number of portraits of popes | 0:09:04 | 0:09:11 | |
but it seems to me as if someone's kept it as a nice sort of memento. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
Yes. You know, it's a rather intimate small size, and things like that. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
It's remarkable that it's survived being in the water for so long | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
and it's lost a little bit of paint, but nothing very serious. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
I just can't believe it and I think it indicates how well painted it is. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
The artist really spent some time preparing to paint onto this lovely bit of copper. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
I suppose we have to put a value on it, don't we? | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
You know, the idea that it came out of the Cam on a fishing trip is wonderful. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
Um, I guess it's worth in the region of sort of £300 to £500, something like that. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
Fine. Not bad for a day's fishing. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
It's not, no. It's not going anywhere so... Good. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Now, let's just see what sort of weight we've got here... 31 ounces. | 0:09:53 | 0:10:01 | |
So that's about £100 worth of silver just on scrap value but... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
..have a look and see. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Now, what can you tell me about it? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
Well, this salver came to me from my grandmother, who was born in 1875 | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
and I'm particularly interested to know if there's other significance of the engraving. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
Indeed, now the salver itself is an absolute joy, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
but the armorial there is fascinating | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
because what we've got, the actual arms... | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Can you see a representation of what is essentially a lozenge? Mm. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
Now, that straight away tells me that this was made for a lady. Mm. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
The reason being that, in heraldry, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
men have their arms represented on shield-shaped escutcheons, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
but that was an implement of warfare and considered unseemly for ladies. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
Normally, this tells you that it's going to be a widow. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
The lady wouldn't normally represent her arms in this way unless her husband was already dead... | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
because it would be obviously then, the husband... | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
It should be fairly straightforward to establish whose arms those are. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
Now, this wonderful little Neo-Classic bow at the top, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
the engraving here is 1770s. In fact, let's just have a look at the exact date. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:19 | |
Oh, yes, there we are. We've got that letter "a", for 1776 | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
and so the engraving tallies nicely. Maker... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
That's a chap called Richard Rugg... | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
Uh-huh. ..who specialised in making salvers. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
Had you thought about value? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
Well, no. I certainly don't want to sell it, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
but one's always interested in something's worth. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Right, well I certainly don't blame you not wanting to sell it. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
I would say today we're looking at £3,000 plus. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:50 | |
What do you think they represent, or do, or are? | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Well, I can tell they're Oriental. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Very good. And they're whistles, aren't they? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
They are whistles. We'll try. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
That's amazingly good. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Did you hear that? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
They are indeed Oriental - they're Chinese. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
And they're a class of porcelain called blanc de chine | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
and they come not from Jingdezhen, which is the main porcelain centre in China, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:22 | |
but down south from Dehua. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
These were called toys, that was the proper name for them, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
and they were made, not to be played with by children, but by adults. Oh. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
And this one is SUCH fun... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
We've got a Dutchman... You can tell he's a Dutchman because he's got this tricorn hat on. Oh, yes. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:43 | |
And he's kicking a tiger! | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
Rare little things, and the fact they've survived is extraordinary. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
What date do you think they are? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Absolutely no idea whatsoever. Right. I inherited them. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
Would you believe about 1660? | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
Oh, goodness. Isn't that extraordinary? | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Yes, yes. Absolutely extraordinary. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
And I think, despite a little bit of damage on each of them, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
we're looking at about £500 to £1,000 for the two of them. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
Ooh, that's amazing. Isn't it amazing? Yes. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
We've got a mass of what apparently are proofs for packets here. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
What do they mean? | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
What have you got here? | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
They were left to me by my uncle, Ernie Hunt. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
Right. And he actually designed and drew them. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
So he was a commercial artist? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
He was a lithographic artist, yes. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
So he did the designs and then he prepared the colour separations for printing. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
Yes, yes. Right. So what we have here in effect is his portfolio. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
Had he been looking for a job, he'd have taken these to say, "Look, this is what I can do." | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
So we start off very suitably... Cambridge Cracker. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Yes. Which was a type of biscuit, but Macfarlane and Lang - famous name. If we move on... | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
There's another Cambridge cracker... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
A different kind. That's lovely, isn't it? It is, yes. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
And she's advertising some cosmetic, French cosmetic or Dutch. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
Very pretty, very decorative. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
Most of them are 1920s' style. Yeah. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
Here we've got biscuits, again another famous name. Here we've got tobacco... | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
These presumably are lids for tins, aren't they? Yes. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Which might have been lithographed onto a tin or with a paper label, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
and there's a much more elaborate design for domestic bottled goods. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:26 | |
Yes. So we've got 20, 50... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:27 | |
..I haven't counted... 60 or so here. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
For value, it's very much to do with the decorative quality of the image and the condition. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
This chef, torn and tatty, is frankly not worth very much. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
Good ones in bright colours, nice subjects, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
will be worth £30, £40 each. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Yeah. And the subject is important. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
It's always a pretty girl that is the most popular. Pretty girls can sell anything. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
Add it up... You've got several hundred pounds' worth. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
Yeah. But more important, it's a family archive. It is, yeah. Yeah. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
I've had somebody who was not an expert, give an opinion, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
but I'd like to know how old it is and who might have owned it. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
What was the non-expert opinion? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Well, we've always called it a chest, but he called it a coffer, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
so I thought that it was used for storing money. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
But something that big would hold a lot of money. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Yes. How old is it and who owned it? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
That's what I'm interested in. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
Right, it's actually the type of chest which can range between 1500-1550 to about 1700-1720. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:31 | |
It's the sort of thing that was made... let's have a look... | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
You say coffer. I think the definition of a coffer and a chest is the same thing. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
A coffer doesn't mean to say it's for money. Right. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Sometimes they do have a little till here which is for money. Original hinges, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
totally untouched, 400-year-old piece of furniture - fascinating. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
It would have been used for linen, because linen was very expensive. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
Linen bed sheets, things like that. Tapestry covers, very expensive. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
Almost one of the luxuries of the 17th century. So that's what it would've been used for. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
I just think that it's just charming... | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
You've got the thumb carving, the chip carving here. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
Just the most simple carving, one quick hit with a chisel, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
and you get that lovely effect, but just, you know, it's a local joiner, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
not a cabinet maker or carver, it's pre-cabinet making. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
It's very simple - known as a six-plank chest. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
Right. One, two, top, bottom. Two front and back, four and two slab sides, so a six-plank chest. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:28 | |
I just love this wonderful warping. Here he is, he's got some wood | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
and for some reason he hasn't got the wood seasoned properly | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
and you've got this lovely warping, and to me that adds value. Oh, right. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
That's what attracted me, because we see a lot of these. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
People bring them in to the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Right. But this is just plain, simple, unadulterated and just the naivety of that... | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
Value? No idea. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
I know it wouldn't have cost very much when we bought it. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
£1,000. Really? As much as that? | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Jolly good. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
I'm very excited about this... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
Let's imagine we're back in Edwardian times - 1905 - | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
and I'm a ten-year-old school boy. You've given me this present and I've ripped it open. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
The first thing I see is the wonderful label, which tells me what's inside | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
because here is a railway station, beautifully lithographed. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
All the figures are going in and out of the train. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
Joy of joys for a small boy, and even a big boy, I have to say... | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
Right. ..Is this fantastic train set. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Where did it come from and why is it in such amazing condition? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
It was won by my great grandfather in a raffle in a pub, in 1913, for sixpence. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:41 | |
Right. And although, the children were allowed to play with it, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
I don't think they played with it much, and they had to be careful, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
and, as you can see, it is in quite good condition. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
What I love about it is it's actually an engine that's run on steam. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
Have you ever tried to fire it up? | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
We did get it going once, when I was a small child and we set it up one Christmas | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
but it went so fast round the track, it fell over and very nearly set the carpet alight. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
And they could also blow up and blind you, so not a good idea to try it today. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
No, we've never done it since. But let's have a quick play, can I? Yes. Oh, good. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
So it's what's called a gauge one and that's the size of the track. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
As I explained, it works on steam, so you could actually fire this up | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
and you'd put water on it and away it would steam. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Then it has the tender, as the train would. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
Then it has these two glorious carriages, one of which is the first class, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:38 | |
There's a second class one too. It's tucked underneath. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
And these are all hand painted, hand enamelled. Right. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
And you've even got the little plaster figures that go inside. Yes. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Now these are the things that go missing. They get broken or eaten, or whatever. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:57 | |
But they just... You open the lid and...in they go. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
It's in pristine condition. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Right. I can see it today at auction fetching somewhere in the region of between £2,500 and £3,500. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:09 | |
Wow. So, not a bad raffle prize. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
No, very good. Thank you for letting me play with your toys. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
That's all right. Thank you. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
If you look at that you'd think, "That's a strange-looking shotgun cartridge," | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
but with a bit of wizardry as you twist the bottom. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Yes. Up comes this carrier and out pops these little silver leaves. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Do you know what this is for? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
Well, we didn't when we first had it. My husband was given it about 20 years ago. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
We had it rolling around in a drawer for about five of those | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
and then one day he started to play with it, and out they popped. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
That's absolutely brilliant. And it was only after he'd been on a shoot that he realised what it was. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:48 | |
They're called place finders and they... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Well, this is a very elaborate version of what is a fairly simple idea, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
where to ensure that there is no fixing about who stands on the best peg... Yes. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
..Where the biggest number of birds is going to come across, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
then the host of the shoot, at the beginning of the shoot | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
gets all the guns together and says, "We're going to draw for pegs" | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
and he would produce this. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
Would you like to draw for a peg? Thank you. What have you got? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
Number one, yes. That's a very hot drive, this one. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
They'll be coming nice and high over you(!) | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
And it was that sort of element of chance that gave people at the beginning of a shoot, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
firstly to know where they had to be, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
and then they went up two numbers or down two. Yes, I see. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
It was just a novel way of doing it. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
Hundreds of these must have got dropped in farmyards and things. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Yes. Which is why yours is so nice - it's complete. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
It's rather neat, isn't it? Yes, it's incredibly clever. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
These have become very, very popular, recently | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
and these brass versions are worth between £750 and £1,000. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
So, all that time it was in your drawer, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
you didn't know what it was or what it was worth. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
No idea. I'm glad I brought it along. Thank you very much. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Thank you, thanks. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
This brings together two of the most influential and important artists | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
working at the beginning of the 19th century. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Sir William Nicholson - the portrait painter - | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
and Sir Edwin Lutyens - one of the most famous country house architects. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:14 | |
So, what's the connection? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
Which side are you connected with? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
Well, Sir Edwin was my husband's grandfather. Ah, right. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
And these have been handed down through the family and I ended up with them when my husband died, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:31 | |
and Sir Edwin and William Nicholson were great friends. Yes. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
And I think, probably, these were drawn after a very enjoyable dinner one night. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:41 | |
Yes, they're somewhat surprising in execution. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
We have Sir William Nicholson's monogram in the bottom left-hand corner | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
but if somebody wasn't familiar with his work, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
he would be forgiven for thinking, "Are these good enough?" | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
I mean, they are caricatures, quickly, randomly drawn. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
The perforations on the left-hand side are sheets from a sketch book. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
Did he have them on him when he was at every dinner? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
I don't know. Perhaps they played some sort of game between them? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
Sir Edwin, in all the letters he wrote to the children, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
he always did small caricatures. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Yes, yes. Funny pictures. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
I love the way that the spectacles just intersect the eyeballs in both of the drawings. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:27 | |
Yes. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
Of course, Edwin was the designer of the Cenotaph, the Viceroy's house in New Delhi. Yes. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:35 | |
Very, very, very successful and Sir William Nicholson was also a great painter. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:42 | |
Now, as I said, they don't look like any other works or paintings by Nicholson that I know, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:48 | |
but they are fascinating because it brings these two great men together. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
Mm. I think perhaps... I hope you won't be too upset if I said | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
probably the maximum they're worth is £2,000 for the two. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
No, I wouldn't be upset at all. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
Well, they're wonderful. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
He's a Japanese figure and he's a porcelain figure not a pottery figure. Yes. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
And he's amongst the very earliest Japanese enamelled porcelains to exist. Really? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:15 | |
What sort of date do you think he is? | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
What sort of date do you think he is? Well, you tell me the earliest. Let's say 400 years? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
Mm, he was made in about 1660, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
just after Cromwell, but in Japan. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
Right, yes. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
It's a model of the rice god Daikoku standing here on two rice bales. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
The base is interesting. You can see the muslin... | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
Yes. ..that the porcelain was pushed onto when he was made. He's a very rare little thing, really. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:42 | |
Um, the other pieces here. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Yes. Running through them quickly, these are Chinese, from around 1900. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
Really? This is Chinese, dating from the second half of the 18th century. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:55 | |
Right. And running through the prices of these - | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
about 50p. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
Really? About 50p, about £5, about £5,000. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
Really? Mm. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
Well, I thought he was a little gem but I didn't have any idea what it was. That's fantastic, isn't it? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:16 | |
Often the backs of pictures have more information than the front | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
and here we have a wonderful inscription, which really tells us the whole story. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
"HMS Triumph homeward bound in Magellan Straits, September 1888" | 0:24:24 | 0:24:31 | |
And then we have the initials of the painter - "JDM", | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
but we don't quite know who the artist is. Now let me just... | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
turn it round. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Here we have this wonderful picture of HMS Triumph. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
It's sort of Boys' Own stuff, isn't it? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
She's quite an important ship, you know. You've done a bit of work. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
I have, yes. Can you tell me something? | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
Well, she was actually the flagship for the Pacific fleet. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
And we don't know who JDM is, or do we? | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
I worked through and I've decided he wasn't an officer. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Right. And so he was a member of the crew who was obviously talented in this way. Yes, exactly. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
And they were going through very difficult places there. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Of course. Lovely. It's frustrating, isn't it? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Because you know we've got actually a historically interesting picture. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
Yes. It's quite well painted, although it is obviously by an amateur hand. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
Yes. And you can see some of the figures are a bit naive. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
Lovely, yes. It's wonderful. And are these...icebergs, do you think? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
Yes, yes. Coming through... Fascinating, fascinating. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
I also love the landscape. I mean it's wonderfully exotic. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Yes, isn't it? Lurking danger... | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
She was going through the narrow parts here. Right. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
And because it was the narrow parts they had to anchor every night. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
Difficult to value because, you know, we don't know who JDM is. No. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
I don't know what it's worth, so I'm going to skip that problem. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
I'm not going to sell it, so that's all right. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
It's funny to see things like this on the Antiques Roadshow that are part of our lives. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
Yes, these are quite new to me... | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
but very familiar and that's how I earn my living. Here they are...relics. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
Relics of an already nostalgic age. People collect these things - | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
they have become part of our past, but I remember the first set we had like that. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
1953 - the Coronation. But my mother had already been working on Watch With Mother since 1950, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:24 | |
so I was very much a child of the television era and you must have similar memories. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
Well, television wasn't around when I was a child. The wireless was everything. Yes. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
And I listened to Children's Hour and the wireless Toy Town series. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
I actually met the mayor of Toy Town when I started broadcasting | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
and no-one I've ever met since has matched that. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
I can't match that. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
These are both by Pye, which is a local Cambridge company | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
set up in 1896 to make scientific instruments. Their first radio was 1922. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:57 | |
Their first television was in the late 1930s during that curious era | 0:26:57 | 0:27:02 | |
when there was experimental television from Alexandra Palace | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
and I understand that Pye sold 2,000 sets at about 34 guineas each | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
before 1939, which is a huge amount of money, in relative terms. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
And then they came back in the 1940s after war-time radar experiences | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
and this was one of their first post-war models. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
This is 1948 and so this is really the sort of thing that I remember very well. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
And people collect them not simply because they are old... | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
That is a fairly plain thing. This has a sort of beauty to it. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
This is a wonderful sort of Art Deco motif - the sun burst and the clouds and all that. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
People collect these for two reasons... | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
They're technicians and they're interested in how it works, they're interested in the visual impact, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:45 | |
because, in this time, the television and the radio had to become pieces of domestic furniture, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
they lived in our house and if it looked like a scientific box of tricks, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
everybody would say, "I don't want that in there." | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
It had to acquire a domestic face, and this is a classic, really | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
because it doesn't tell you it's a radio. The knobs are round the side, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
it's a wonderful sort of structure reflective of all the spirit of the jazz age. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
It's a good area because they're not expensive. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
You can buy a radio like that for about £150. You can buy a telly like that for about £100 if you want it. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:18 | |
So it's quite accessible to the next generation. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
But let's imagine again... | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
If we had that radio, what would we like to hear? | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Well, I would live on a permanent diet of Larry the Lamb, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Dennis the Dachshund and Mr Grouser. That would be your thing, would it? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
Yes, what I wouldn't do is to hear again Mr Chamberlain declaring war... | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
I heard that with my family around a set like this - terrifying moment. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
That picture seen so often. Sitting on the arms of chairs. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
You actually did that? Yes. Well, I couldn't claim that. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
Shall we see what's on telly? Yes, haven't got Radio Times but I bet it's good. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
I'll turn it on, it's bound to be good. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
There you are, a real classic. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
ANTIQUES ROADSHOW THEME PLAYS | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
So, you've had this a while? | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
Just had it, just over a year. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
Yes. There we are. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Oh, isn't that lovely? Bought from an auction or... | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
I saw it in an antique shop locally and liked the pattern, so I thought, "Well, I'll have that one." | 0:29:26 | 0:29:33 | |
I should think so too... what did you pay for it? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
£20. £20? Yes. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
It is well marked, isn't it? | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
It's got the Worcester mark on it, but no signature of the painter. Do you know who painted it? | 0:29:40 | 0:29:47 | |
Well, I understand, through a bit of research, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
because I was so interested in it, that it might be Bott. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
That it might be, I'm not 100% sure. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
Well, I can tell you positively - it is Thomas Bott. Thomas Bott, senior. | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
Yes. He had a son at Royal Worcester | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
who did this sort of style of Limoges enamel | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
but this is Thomas Bott, senior. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
Yes. Somewhere round about the 1865 period. Yes. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
All this is in enamels. Enamels on this deep blue ground, which is Thomas Bott's speciality, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:18 | |
he claimed it was like Limoges enamels, the medieval method of painting white enamel onto copper, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:25 | |
but in this case he just painted these white enamels onto the blue, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:31 | |
but it's not a case of firing this colour. He built and built these colours, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
time and time again, to raise them, and fired each time | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
and then eventually you get to the heavy raised enamel on the fronts of these, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
of these faces, and the very faint bits are left as tiny little stems of the leaves. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:51 | |
The workmanship is absolutely fantastic | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
and this is sort of Classical style, sort of imitating Greek and Roman, which was his great love. | 0:30:54 | 0:31:01 | |
That's what attracted me to it. The decoration? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
The decoration. I love Roman Classical decorations. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
Yes, but they are very beautiful and so typical of Bott's work because it just screams Thomas Bott. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:13 | |
I mean, it just couldn't be anybody else. So, you've got a very fine piece. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
Twenty quid? Yes. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
Well, I suppose if you want to know the value now, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
the real value, I think you're looking at £1,500 to £1,750, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
something like that and perhaps you should insure it for £2,000 | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
because you're not going to find another one too easily, so congratulations. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
Thank you. And treat it reverently. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
I will, I love it. I wouldn't let it go. Good. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
Of course, this is tremendous fun. Tell me, what on earth is the significance of that car? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:51 | |
It belonged to my cousin who was serving out in Shanghai as a nurse | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
and it arrived out there in 1923 | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
for the grand sum of £190, including shipping | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
and I've even got a photograph of it with my dear cousin at the wheel. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
Isn't that wonderful? A number of her nurses draped over it. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
It cost £190? The car did, yes. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
Oh, the car, not the ink set. No, I've no idea how much that cost. Extraordinary. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
It's wonderful when you get a bit of original material to go with it | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
and, of course, the maker we've got here is Omar Ramsden. Ramsden, yes. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:28 | |
And, of course, it's an inkwell. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
What fun to have this individually commissioned with this wonderful enamel work | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
but, the ink stand itself, a special commission from Ramsden. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:42 | |
I suppose today, if that was coming up at auction, it would be estimated probably at £2,000...£2,500. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:50 | |
Really? Gracious me. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
Especially with the car connection. Anybody interested in Citroens, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
this is going to be almost a "must have" if you're a fanatical collector. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
It's such a treat to see these early cigarette cards | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
and the quality of printing is simply fantastic. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
Absolutely. How many cards should there be? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
Right, the small size and the medium size set, both comprise 50 cards. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
I see here you've got the small zebu and the large zebu. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:22 | |
I brought them along to demonstrate the background that appears on the larger sets. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
There's a bit extra for your money, as well as the size. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
And did you have to pay a little bit extra? Yes, always a little bit extra. Exactly. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
But what's even more extraordinary is that you've got another lot here | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
and these appear to be the original drawings for these. Watercolour drawings. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:45 | |
That's what I think and hope. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
And they were first produced in about 1890 and they are simply fantastic, aren't they? | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
I mean, this orang-utan...and you've got the small card of that. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
Do you have the large card? No, I haven't. So we don't know what kind of jungle he's in. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
No, not really. Looks fairly dense but... Doesn't it, just? | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
The very fact that you've got every one that matches up with your set, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
I can't imagine they're anything other than the originals. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
No. And I think they're really very desirable. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
The small cards have a catalogue value, I dare say, of about £150...£200. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
The bigger ones much more than that, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
but the originals are really very difficult to value. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
I imagine they would make around £80 a piece for the larger ones. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
That's £2,500 and then you've got all these... | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
How many original fish have you got? 50. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
Supposing they're worth £40, £50 each, that's another £2,500. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
So that's £5,000 for the drawings. That's right, yes. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
All in all, it's really fantastic. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
Should cover the council tax for a couple of years. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
Depends how much they put it up, I suppose. Well, indeed. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
E Wheeldon, Derby. That's great-grandpa. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Oh, quite a grand sounding ceramic name, but spelt differently. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
Yes. And a Whieldon pot indeed. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
Do you know anything about Whieldon ware? | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Well, it's pre-Wedgwood. They got together, didn't they, and collaborated? | 0:35:00 | 0:35:06 | |
We've have had quite a few pots like these on the Roadshow, over the years. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
There was a wonderful punch pot in Liverpool, years ago. I remember that. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
You remember that? | 0:35:14 | 0:35:15 | |
I do. With these wonderful glazes. Yes. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
And super colours. And it's got its top, as well, sitting on there. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
Was this used in the family? | 0:35:22 | 0:35:23 | |
Oh, never. It was bought in the early 1950s by my father for eight guineas... Eight guineas. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:30 | |
..From an antique shop in Wiltshire. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
Well, that's less than £9, isn't it? Yes. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
It's '50s, that was a long time ago. Yes, he was very pleased to find it. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
I bet he was, I bet he was. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
Whieldon is a name given to these wonderful coloured glazes | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
where the glaze is sort of an inherent part of the pot. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
They're sealed there, those colours, for all time, they never change. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
That pineapple is as bright now as when it was made. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
What, in 1760, 1765? | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
I mean, it's a marvellous design, isn't it? | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
The whole plant comes out of the pot, doesn't it? | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
Of course, in the '50s, Whieldon was the only potter anyone really knew about. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:10 | |
He worked at Wedgwood, he made these glazes in Staffordshire, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
but we've done more research since and we now know there's a lot more pottery | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
and a few years back they were digging in Staffordshire and they found bits of this teapot | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
on the factory site of another maker called William Greatbatch. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
We now know this isn't Whieldon. It's actually a Greatbatch teapot. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
Oh. It's only made down the road. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
Oh, right. Really, he was a marvellous caster. The detail in the modelling is always superb. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:36 | |
Just look at those leaves. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
Eight guineas back then in the '50s. I suppose that reflected... | 0:36:38 | 0:36:45 | |
The handle's been broken off at some time. I don't know if you'd noticed. No. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
It's had a bit of mending there, but I think we can forgive it that. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
Right. Even so, with a broken handle, it's still going to be £4,000. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
Oh, I see. It's a lot of money. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
A costly little teapot. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
It is, yes. But an exciting one. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Oh, I'm glad you like it. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
I believe that it's a missionary being eaten alive by an alligator or crocodile. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:12 | |
And I feel it's about 100 years old, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
sort of about the time that Africa was being opened up... in the 1870s, 1900. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:23 | |
You're absolutely right. It was made around the 1890s, I would think. Made in Europe, in Austria. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
It's a cold-painted bronze. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
What made you think it was a missionary? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
I thought the book was a bible and I thought it was German, perhaps. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
I thought it was a missionary's hat. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
Yes, yes. Well, in fact, there is a German name on the book but it's Baedeker. Right. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
Baedeker travel guides. Oh, really? | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
No self-respecting person would leave Europe without a copy of Baedeker. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
In fact, nobody would travel without a copy of Baedeker. Right. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
Fantastic travel guides that were produced from the late 19th century onwards, | 0:37:55 | 0:38:01 | |
so that ties in very nicely with the date that this was made. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Right. I think it's really a crocodile eating a traveller of some kind. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:10 | |
I love the angle of the feet here. It looks as if someone's dived into this crocodile | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
and even the wind in the scarf on this great top hat, and I think the brolly as well, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:20 | |
adds an additional feature to the whole thing, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
so the crocodile is totally dressed up with the man's clothes. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
And, at the top here, there is a purpose to this as well, isn't there? | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
Because this has got a little vesta case in here and you could strike your matches there. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
It would have sat on somebody's desk. You obviously like it. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
Well, yes. He's both hideous and attractive, isn't he? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
And my mother thought he was appalling but my father must have enjoyed him, and I certainly do. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:51 | |
If it was to come at auction it would fetch in the region of | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
£800 to £1,000. Would it really? | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Good gracious. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
Mother will be shattered. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
Well, obviously, it's a town plan, but which town? | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
Now, I notice at the bottom here that it says "the Delaware River" | 0:39:10 | 0:39:16 | |
and I notice, rather excitingly, "RM Penn, RM Penn" | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
and various other Penns all over the place. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Is this Philadelphia? Indeed, yes. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
I don't believe it. This is presumably to do with land transactions. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
That's correct, yes. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
As we're in Philadelphia, this has to do with Pennsylvania, which William Penn founded. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:40 | |
Oh, that's quite correct. RM Penn is Richard Penn, who was one of his grandchildren. Right. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
And there are large areas of land in Philadelphia that were left into the Penn family | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
and remained with the Penns until the time of the revolution. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
So where did you get it from? | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
My grandfather was an auctioneer. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
Yes. And after he died and his house was being cleared, my father went through some five sacks of documents | 0:39:58 | 0:40:04 | |
and pulled out the most interesting. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
What he thought was the most interesting. Yes. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
And this map is dated just before the revolution. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
Yes. 1775. And in the indenture, when you read this script, you find that, in William Penn's will, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:20 | |
he is leaving 10,000 acres of Philadelphia to each of his four children of the second marriage, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
and that is just to begin with. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
Beyond that, he doesn't bother to detail the rest of the land. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
And, of course, all this is worth a fortune, I assume. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
I've no idea. Well, in 1775, I mean. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
Oh, yes, in those terms. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
I don't know if you've had a chance to notice. This piece of land alone is 124 acres of Philadelphia. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:45 | |
That's extraordinary. So what it would be worth now is beyond imagining. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
Quite incredible, and it was lying in your... An attic. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
In an attic in your grandfather's... I think that's incredible. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
When I first received these documents they were folded so tight | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
that they'd fit between my two hands. Good heavens. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
And I found somebody at a museum here in Cambridge | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
who could put them in a humidity chamber to unwrap them. That is amazing. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:11 | |
It might have fallen apart if I'd tried to open it. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
Did it cost you a lot of money to have that done? No. It was not a lot, less than £100. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:18 | |
Oh, well, I think that you could certainly get somewhere in the region, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
for this little piece of history, somewhere in the region of £10,000. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
Indeed? Well, I... | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
It's been worth the trouble, then. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
At first sight, this is the world's most boring pot. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
Just blue... | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
but when you get round to the front, all is revealed and even taking the whole pot in one go, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:48 | |
you don't get the real glory of it, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
you've got to see it up close because it is fantastic. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:57 | |
We have these little birds, which are probably sparrows, flittering through the air | 0:41:57 | 0:42:03 | |
on this midnight blue ground, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
very popular colour for Japanese cloisonne ware, which is, of course, what this is. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
The quality | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
of the lines here in silver. This is silver. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
Right. But it is fantastic work. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
How on earth did they fix onto metal, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
a vertical piece of wire that thin and then infill it with colour? | 0:42:27 | 0:42:34 | |
It is just mind-blowing quality. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
On the shoulders, we've got beautiful little kiku chrysanthemums | 0:42:37 | 0:42:43 | |
and, unusually, we've got this decoration inside the mouth and on the bottom. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:50 | |
Now, I've seen only three or four pots in my life with that feature. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:56 | |
Where did you get it from? | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Here. In Cambridge? Cambridge, yes. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
And where... In an antique shop? | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
Yes, in an antique shop. How long ago? | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
20 years, 30 years. Really? Between 20 and 30 years ago. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
The moment I saw it... | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
You had to have it. ..I just, yes, had to have it. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
What did you pay for it, may I ask? Um, £20... £30... I can't remember. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
Serious money, then. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:18 | |
Oh, yes, well... You liked it a lot, didn't you? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
I liked it, yes. Yeah, quite a lot of money, £20... £30... | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
Do you think it's worth a bit more now? | 0:43:25 | 0:43:26 | |
I've no idea at all. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
Well, you can add a nought to it. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
Really? No, you can add two noughts to it. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
What? Certainly £3,000 to £4,000. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
Wow! Ooh. How awful. You've got very good taste. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
Thank you very much. Thank YOU very much. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
Here endeth our second visit to King's College, Cambridge. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
But now to the Provost and Fellows of King's, many thanks. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
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