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'..Malin, Hebrides - north-east four or five, becoming cyclonic, then south-west six to gale eight, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:39 | |
'perhaps severe gale nine later. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
'Rain. Moderate or good.' | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Well, as you might've gathered, the Roadshow is a long way from home | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
on one of the most remote, windswept parts of the British Isles. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
a place known best to us as a fixture on the shipping forecast. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
So welcome, on a mercifully sunny day, to the largest island of the Outer Hebrides - Lewis. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:05 | |
The Hebridean landscape is sometimes beautiful, sometimes forbidding, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
but the islands boast a world heritage site, four national nature reserves | 0:01:12 | 0:01:18 | |
and no less than 55 sites of special scientific interest. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
The coastline offers dramatic cliff views, secluded sandy coves and mystical standing stones. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:30 | |
The Celts and Vikings both left their mark on these Western Isles, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
and a traditional way of life still flourishes among the 26,000 people who live here. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
70% of them are native speakers of Scots Gaelic, an ancient Celtic language. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:47 | |
Fortunately, they also speak English, making life easier for our experts. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Now, until recently, there wasn't a venue here big enough to hold the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
then we heard they were building a new leisure centre in the principal town of Stornoway. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
In fact, we're due to be the first public event in the new complex, assuming its finished, of course. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:12 | |
Like the Olympic Stadium in Athens, it's showing every sign of being a close-run thing. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
Our experts are hoping for some interesting finds, though, and up here that wouldn't be unknown. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
During a particularly violent storm in 1831, a local crofter, who was rounding up his cows | 0:02:22 | 0:02:28 | |
in these sand dunes near Ardroil, came across a stone chamber unearthed by the force of the wind. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:34 | |
He broke into the chamber and discovered, to his amazement, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
what looked like a gathering of gnomes and elves. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
There were 78 little people in all, dressed as churchmen, royalty and warriors. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:49 | |
Wise people at the British Museum finally concluded that they were 12th-century Norse chessmen | 0:02:49 | 0:02:56 | |
carved from walrus tusk. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
Many regard the original Lewis figures as the finest early chess pieces in the world. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:04 | |
Lo and behold, come the day and all the pieces are in place here in Stornoway, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
where they've finished enough of the building for our opening gambit. So, on with the first event to be held | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
in the brand new Lewis Sports Centre and the first ever Antiques Roadshow from the Outer Hebrides. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:20 | |
Two classic views of the Highlands painted on porcelain. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
Are these scenes you've grown up with? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Eh, yes, I've been in Scotland all my life. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
So you can picture the highland cattle there by a loch. Yes. And the sheep amongst the heather. Indeed. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
These are scenes I'VE grown up with, because these are from Worcester, they're Royal Worcester plaques. Ah! | 0:03:33 | 0:03:39 | |
And nice to see them in their original frames. This is how they left the Worcester factory. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
Yes. And the Worcester always had a little cut-out on the back. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
When we look around...inside the frame, there's a little hole showing the factory mark. That tells us... | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
the Royal Worcester sign, and this little code system, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
they've got little tiny dots around the factory mark, 25 dots there, that's the year 1916. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
So that's when they were made. Oh! | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
And they're by two of the greatest china painters of all time, really, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
this one by John Stinton and this one here by Harry Davis. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
Yes. John Stinton specialised in the cattle. And during his very long life - he lived to be over 100... | 0:04:13 | 0:04:19 | |
during his whole life at Worcester, he painted the highland scenes with the cattle by the loch there. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
Yes. Though they're not scenes that he ever saw himself. Oh, he never...? During that time... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
His son said that John Stinton never went further north than Droitwich, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
which is only a few miles up the A38 north of Worcester. He never came to Scotland at all. Didn't he? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
Neither did Harry Davis, here painting sheep. And you can sort of smell the heather in the atmosphere! | 0:04:39 | 0:04:45 | |
Yes, yes. I knew Harry Davis when I was a young lad at Worcester, growing up. Oh. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
He was in his 80s, still painting at Worcester - he lived there all his life - | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
painting the sheep in the landscapes. When I was ten years old, I would watch him paint, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
still painting highland scenes, doing it from memory! And I thought, "How did you do this?" | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
He'd never seen the sheep themselves. Didn't know... | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
And he showed me little picture postcards that friends had sent him of Highland scenes. Uh-huh? | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
He did it all from that. He just imagined the scenes. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
Neither Stinton or Davis ever went there. Where did these come from? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
Have they always been in your family? No, my husband bought them at a house sale in Greenock. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:26 | |
And...? I think he didn't pay very much for them. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
£2.10/- in old money, somewhere about there. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Porcelain lovers know the Highlands from the work of Stinton and Davis, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
and they pay very big money for them nowadays indeed. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
This one here, by John Stinton, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
is probably worth, today, something round about £3,000. Mm-hmm. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:52 | |
and this one by Harry Davis, probably £4,000. Oh. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
Harry's work is...is just so special. And a plaque like that has got everything. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:03 | |
Oh, I shall look at them in a different light! | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
"The Peter Pan portfolio by Arthur Rackham, from Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens by J. M. Barrie." | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
Now, why do you like this? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
I bought it because I love... I like anything about Peter Pan, I like the stories and... | 0:06:13 | 0:06:19 | |
Never-never land. And Never-never land. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
Yes. And where did you buy it? | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
I bought it in Inverness at an auction. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
At an auction? Yes. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
I mean, just look at that! | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Yes, it's beautiful. It looks absolutely...absolutely glorious. And this lovely attention to detail! | 0:06:31 | 0:06:38 | |
This one I've always loved because it's got this... | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
This is Kensington Gardens. There you've got all the fairies. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
In fact, you probably have beer bottles down here today. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
But they've got fairies. And this lovely sort of twilight... | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
That's the Serpentine. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
And here's another one, look at the movement in those. I mean, they are just absolutely tremendous. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:04 | |
And...autumn fruit, I suppose, coming in there, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
and all that. And this little chap. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
Well, Arthur Rackham, as you know, obviously a very famous artist, started working for magazines | 0:07:10 | 0:07:17 | |
in the late 19th century. And then, by about 1900-1904, I think, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:24 | |
he started to bring out coloured illustrated books | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
of other people's texts and, you know, possibly Christmas wasn't Christmas without a Rackham in it. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
Now, you'll have to tell me how much you paid for this. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
I can't really remember correctly, but it was £300 or £400, I think it was. 300 or 400. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
I couldn't be quite... Couldn't be quite sure? That was quite... that was quite a punch. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
I thought it was, yes. Yes, very bold. My husband was saying, "Oh!" | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
Was he absolutely horrified? I love this one of this chrysanthemum as a man. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
Yes. Isn't he tremendous? | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
Gorgeous. And he's got a monocle. I suppose he looks like Joseph Chamberlain, doesn't he? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
I mean, you know, of the period. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
And this child, the expression on its face! | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Well, look, there are various things wrong with this. The binding itself is not in bad condition. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:15 | |
The vellum - obviously people have been putting fingers all round there. But it could be tidied up | 0:08:15 | 0:08:22 | |
and really made to look absolutely very special. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
Oh. In fine condition, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
the Peter Pan portfolio is worth somewhere between £1,500 and £2,000. I see. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:34 | |
So if you care to - and I think it would be worthwhile - spend a bit more money on it. Uh-huh, yes. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:40 | |
And put it into apple-pie order. That's lovely. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
This is your table, isn't it? It's my table. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
The chair however, we have borrowed from the Cabost collection in the local museum. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
Oh, yes. And that is of interest here, but let us actually concentrate on your table. Right. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
What can you tell us about it? Well, it's been in my family... I mean, first knew about it | 0:08:56 | 0:09:02 | |
when we came here to visit my grandparents in the '30s. Right. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
And it was there then. And your grandparents were local people? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
My grandfather was. Right. But my grandmother was a New Zealander. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
But do you think they acquired it or made it, or what? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
No, it was made by my great grandfather. Right. He made this. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
That's actually very interesting. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Is it? Because, in fact, furniture of this sort, made on the island, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
was almost certainly made from either driftwood... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
Ah. ..or fragments of wood that were left over from other construction projects. Because there was so... | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
there's no indigenous wood on the island. Everything had to be imported then and now. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
That's right, yes. But your great grandfather had obviously seen fashionable pieces of furniture | 0:09:37 | 0:09:44 | |
on the mainland, and tried to recreate it, without the... | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
without the real knowledge OR the technology to do it. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
This stem - he had no access to a lathe so he simply carved it. Uh-huh. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
The legs themselves are shaped, to a degree, as a fashionable one would have been, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:04 | |
but it is likely he tried to find pieces of wood that had that natural shape in them. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:11 | |
Ah. Now, he made the base, but the top is a different kettle of fish altogether. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
This is made of oak. It is also a reclaimed piece of wood. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
But you can see in the joint here that it's a very sophisticated joint, a tongue-and-groove joint. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:28 | |
Yes, yes, you can see that, yes. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
And that was made, almost certainly on a machine. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
So it is likely that this was maybe a door once. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Ah. You know. A ship got wrecked and that's a door of one of the cabins. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
Yes. And that's as big a top as he was able to salvage from this piece of wood. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
So that's fascinating. The other wonderful thing about these two bits of furniture, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:54 | |
now we've put them together. Ah? | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
Is the size of them. What do you use this for? | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Oh, I just use it as a coffee table. As a little coffee table, absolutely. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
But have you ever wondered why it was so low? They didn't have coffee tables in the 19th century. No. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:10 | |
Well, they had very low ceilings and very small places to live in. That's exactly right. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
The original blackhouses, and do you know why they're so low? | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
It's not necessarily the height of the ceilings, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
it's the level of the smoke that gathered in the roof. Oh. Yes! And if you're low down here, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
you're below that smoke level. Yes. A lovely, lovely local detail. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
And you only find that sort of thing in local, vernacular furniture. Yes. It's absolutely fabulous. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
What's it worth? No idea. I haven't a clue. Not a lot. The curious thing is, this local blackhouse furniture | 0:11:38 | 0:11:46 | |
is so rare - it is SO rare! | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
And you can value it in many, many hundreds of pounds, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
possibly over £1,000. Really? Yeah. My aunt wanted to buy it, but I wouldn't sell it. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
How much did she offer you? £10,000. TEN thousand? Yes, she offered me... Yes. She's American. A lot of money. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:06 | |
That's exactly the point. And I said "No, I'd rather keep it". | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
When... When you find somebody who really wants it, in America... | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
I said "over £1,000". I wasn't dreaming of £10,000, but it doesn't surprise me! That's what she said. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
She said "I'll give you £10,000 for it," and I said "No, I'll keep it." That is absolutely brilliant. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
Well, I think anyone watching with a nervous disposition might well be obliged to switch off now, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
before we explain what this rather gruesome object is. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
How did it come into your possession? I inherited it from my father. From your father, right. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
Was he a doctor? He was indeed. That gives us a clue as to what it is. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Well, in fact it's a tonsil extractor. That's right. And how it worked | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
was that this was put in the mouth, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
covering the tonsils. You push this forward... | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
and the sharp blade here underneath cuts off the tonsils | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
which then attach themselves to the barbed points | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
and you pull this back, and the tonsils come with it. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
It must've been a pretty horrendous business. Oh, these days it wouldn't be allowed. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
I think something like this probably dates from around 1900. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
It's made of steel, it's a bit pitted, not in the best of conditions, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
certainly wouldn't pass modern hygiene regulations. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
Um, any idea as to its value? | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
None at all, no. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
Well, if it came up at auction, I think it would probably fetch between £200 and £250. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
Really, would it? Extraordinary. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
So this is for making biscuits. Yes. What, sweet biscuits or oatmeal biscuits? Oatmeal. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:40 | |
Oatmeal, ah, the best sort. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Can you read backwards? Yes. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
What does it say? "Playtime." And does this one have a name on it? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
"Ness." Ness. That sounds very Scottish. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
That's where they were made. So these are for making monster biscuits! | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
The thing is that this is not Dom Perignon. No. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
And because it's not Dom Perignon 1921 | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
and it's Guinard 1923, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
it's only going to be worth £50 to £60! | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
After all that! Yes. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
I was talking to one of my fellow experts on the Roadshow today about Clarice Cliff, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:25 | |
who told me their mother received a Clarice Cliff dinner service as a wedding present in the 1930s, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
and she was so disgusted and appalled with it, she thought it was so common and downmarket, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
that she threw it away. What do you think about it? Same. Don't like it at all, no. Same? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
But you haven't thrown it away. No, I haven't. Put it in the loft. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
You put it up in the loft and then it's been resurrected. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
Well, Clarice Cliff is generally a very famous ceramic designer. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
She was working in the '20s and '30s and producing things in this wonderful Art Deco style. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:59 | |
I think, you know, when one looks at a jug like that, which is the most extraordinary, even bizarre shape, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:06 | |
in many ways totally impractical... Not nice at all. There's no way to put your finger through the handle. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:12 | |
You have to grip it, hold on to it for dear life, otherwise you'll drop it. Similarly, the cups. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:19 | |
Can you imagine a cup full of scalding hot tea...? She must have had a lot of designs, though. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
She did. We looked on the Internet and couldn't find that design. We found other designs but not that. Ah. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
It's interesting you should mention the design. There are two aspects to a piece of Clarice Cliff tea ware. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
There's the design, the pattern, which in this instance is called "Sunshine". Yes. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
And there's the shape. You didn't find this one? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
No. It's not actually a particularly rare one. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
The shape, however, is the thing I like about this set, and it's called the "conical shape", | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
Conical shape is what everybody wants because of this wonderful, stylish Deco design. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:57 | |
But the pattern is, perhaps, not so good. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
Some of the Clarice designs are really strong, bold geometric designs. Yes. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
Although this is clearly of the period, it's a more naturalistic, floral pattern. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:11 | |
So how old is this one, then? This, interestingly, is dated. It's easy for me to tell you when it was made. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:17 | |
Some of the Clarice Cliff pieces have... | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
impressed, just inside the foot-rim, the date. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
And there we have "30" for 1930. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Ah. So it was made in 1930, not all the pieces are dated in this way | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
but the teapot, being the most important piece... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Well, I never noticed that before. ..is obviously the one thing to date. And you've no idea...? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
Perhaps your father bought it? No, probably my mother bought it, I would imagine, yeah. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
Or it might have been in her family. She must've been rather avant-garde and stylish. Yes, she was. She was. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
You know, had a bit of a sparkle. Yeah. I can imagine - these sort of things, she would've gone for. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
She did well and, despite the less commercial design | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
but because of the wonderful shapes and the completeness of the set, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
we're looking at a value probably about £800 to £1,000 at auction | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
and you should insure it for a little bit more than that. Wow. But it's a really good set. Yeah. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
That must've been one gigantic whale! What's the story? Yes, it was over 80 feet long, I believe. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:21 | |
The story is that it came ashore in a bay on the west side of Lewis | 0:17:21 | 0:17:27 | |
and it had been wounded by the harpoon, like you see hanging there. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
And whales make for shore when they're wounded. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
And the local people, of course, took a great deal of interest in it. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
They took all the blubber and used it, in fact, as oil and for various other reasons - | 0:17:39 | 0:17:45 | |
because this was 1920. And leaving... And they left this. All the bones, in fact. This is its lower jawbone? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:53 | |
This is the lower jawbone. And how high is it? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Eh, about 22 feet high and 14 across. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
And this was the harpoon that it dragged with it? Yes. And have you any idea what distance it travelled? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:07 | |
We don't know exactly, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
but it may have... There was a whaling station in Harris, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
but it may have come from anywhere in the North Atlantic. What a difficult job getting it here! | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
They had two horses and a lot of men - | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
I think, over 20 young men fresh from the war - | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
to drag it out the whole length of... | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
the mile from the shore up to here. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
And here it stands, looking like the entrance to a film studio! | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
A landmark. A landmark indeed. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
I think you know what this is. Yes. I knew it was a scarifier, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
I knew it was used as a skin incisor, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
but I wasn't very sure as to its date. I wasn't sure whether it succeeded the leech, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
whether it was a mechanical leech or what. I'd be interested to hear. In a way, it's a mechanical leech. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
In the bottom, here, are hidden some blades. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
And you hold it against the skin | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
and fire it, and those blades will come out and cut the skin. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:09 | |
Bloodletting in that way was meant to relieve things like high blood pressure. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
I can see on this it's got a name, it's got a maker's name. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:20 | |
It probably dates from the first 20 or 30 years of the 19th century. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
That early? Now, we ought to see how this works. Indeed. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
I've already worked the trigger to load it, so it's ready to spring, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:35 | |
I don't suppose you want to try it on yourself, do you? I do not, thank you very much. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
It just so happens that I have a balloon handy. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
Very convenient! And you can see there are no blades showing. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
This is how it would work. You would've rested it on the balloon... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
LOUD BANG Oh! And fired and that's what would have happened. Very quick action. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
The blades have gone again. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
That on your leg, or wherever it was held, will have done the scarifying. And blood would be flowing even now. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:03 | |
Yes, nasty. Nasty, really nasty! | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
So this has some value. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
I mean, no medical connections or anything like this in the family? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:14 | |
No, but the ground floor of our house was leased out as a doctor's consulting room, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
and when the lease expired and my husband wanted to use the rooms, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
he of course ended up clearing out some of the cupboards, and he discovered this amongst other things. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:29 | |
A rather nice find to have. Really? | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
They're now wonderfully valuable today. No, no. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
But old medical antiques, before anaesthetics and before antisepsis, are collected. Right. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:40 | |
And such a collector would pay between £100 and £150 for this. Oh! | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
I'd like to begin by confessing that this artist is completely unknown to me, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
but I think it's an absolutely beautiful image. Can you help me identify the artist? | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
Well, John Hunter, he's an artist who worked in Northern Ireland. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
He was born in China. I believe his mother was Russian... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
Missionaries in China. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
This particular painting is of the Mull of Kintyre | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
And it's rather stylised, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
but it emphasises the wildness and bleakness of the landscape. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
Indeed. particularly like the way he... | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
We have sort of conflicting planes of both curving lines and angular... | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
this sort of angular profile of the hills. It's all very geometric, there's a wonderful design to it. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
Yes. When I first saw this picture, it reminded me very much of another Irish artist called John Luke. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
Now, he worked, essentially, in tempera. Yes. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
Um, but his pictures are altogether more colourful than this. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
Now, do we know much about when John Hunter was active? | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
Well, he died in, I think, 1951. And he was born 1875, so... | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
So he was a contemporary of Luke. So it might be that they'd have known each other? I'm sure they did. | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
There's distinct similarities. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
I just... I love this picture. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
I think... Collectors are always looking for new opportunities, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
for new artists whose work they may not previously be familiar with. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
And this picture has all the elements of different styles in British painting in the 20th C - | 0:22:14 | 0:22:21 | |
the suggestion of Cubism in the foreground, with this very angular approach to the rocks... | 0:22:21 | 0:22:28 | |
and this wonderful diagonal line here, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
which reminds us of vorticism. It's just got everything in it! | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Have you had the picture valued? No, not at any stage. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
It has some sentimental value because it came to me through my mother, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
who was married, at one stage, to one of the sons of the artist. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
Ah, right, that's very interesting. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
In saying all that, it's not a valuable picture, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
but I would think, at auction, it would probably fetch in the region of about £2,000 to £3,000. Yes. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
Well, you've got a nice little stash | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
of early 19th-C Chinese porcelain in here. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
But it's not really that that caught my eye, it's actually the container. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Tell me the history of this extraordinary box. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
Well, I bought it about 12 years ago from a dealer in the North of Scotland. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
I saw it in the shop. It was a fantastic object - damaged, like most of the things I buy. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
And I had...a thought that at some point I might restore it myself, and I bought it. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:30 | |
Did you have any idea where it was from? Did he say? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
I spoke to him about it because, obviously, it's very unusual, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
and he said that it had come to Scotland from a Norwegian family who owned a shipbuilding line. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
Yeah. Well, of course, there are huge contacts between Scotland and Scandinavia, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
in particular Norway. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
it's easier to get to Norway if you're living north of the wall than it is to get down south to London. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:55 | |
How do we actually work out which part of the world this comes from? | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
I think that the beautiful little cartouches of these animals | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
are beginning to give me a clue, especially the elephant. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
The elephant does figure enormously in Danish and Norwegian art | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
because the elephant represents the Danish state, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
the Order of the Elephant - a Danish equivalent of the Order of the Garter. Yeah? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
So the elephant is very popular in Denmark. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
It's a very interesting box, this, so let's have a look inside. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
First, there's a bit of a mystery. "What on earth are we looking at?" | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
The wood seems to have been used once before, before it became a box. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
You've got various lines, you've got oak, you've got pine and then, on the top surface, a bit of mahogany. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:43 | |
Three types of wood. Now, what about the decoration? Well... | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
you've got almost everything you could throw at a box! You've bone... | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
running all the way along the edges | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
and across the bands here. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
You've got stained ivory... | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
this is green stained ivory. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
You've got an ivory panel in the middle. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
And behind that panel there's this little twinkle which suggests... | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
That LOOKS like silver foil behind a transparent... Well, it could be mica, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
something trying to look like tortoiseshell. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
Mm. On the front we have what appears to be a courting couple. Now, that could be the clue. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:26 | |
I think, I think there is... | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
this has a weddingy feel to it. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
If we go round the box, there's a lion standing in a heraldic scroll, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
again, a courting couple on the back...and then another lion. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:42 | |
Now how do we date an object like this? Well, I suppose the biggest clue is in scrollwork, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:48 | |
in all of these cut-out panels you've got fragmentary scrolls, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
c-scrolls cos they're a "c" shape. Yeah, right. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
And with those sort of fragmentary rococo scrolls, I'm going to push it towards 1740-1750, | 0:25:55 | 0:26:01 | |
the middle 18th C. Right. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
It's a gorgeous little thing and... | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Well, how much did you pay for it? I paid £50 for it. £50? Do you think you got a deal? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:12 | |
I think I did. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Well, you have to bear in mind it is actually quite badly damaged. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
I mean you've got these missing parts of the ivory on there, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
but otherwise it's in reasonable shape. And I think you've got something there, for £50, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
which might today fetch between... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
let's say £1,200 and £1,800. ..That's quite nice! | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
I don't think I'll part with it, though, it's a beautiful object. It was a very good buy. Yes. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
And so to our dedicated collector. If anyone in the hall gets a touch of the vapours today, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:45 | |
help will be at hand, because we're going to meet a gentleman who claims to be a gatherer of almost anything, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:51 | |
but specialises in items of a pharmaceutical nature, Sandy Matheson. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
Sandy, you have a professional interest in this, don't you? | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Yes, indeed. I am a pharmacist. I qualified some 40 years ago, came home to work in the family business. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:05 | |
And when I did my apprenticeship to be a pharmacist, in Aberdeen, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
I was taught by an apprentice-master who was very much a traditionalist. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
He taught me how to do things like make pills and so forth, all of which are gone, obsolescent and past now. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:20 | |
I always, because of this gentleman, maintained a great interest in pharmaceutical memorabilia. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:27 | |
It was an art almost more than a science. Indeed. And you made the medicines by hand? | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
That was it, made the medicines by hand, if I can show you for instance, "tincture of opium..." | 0:27:32 | 0:27:38 | |
If you were going to...pour it out, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
you would take it like this and you would pour it in there. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
And then you would put the stopper back like that - part of the art - then you would pour this into your... | 0:27:46 | 0:27:54 | |
into your medicine mortar for making the pill. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
And you would then make it into a mass... | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
like that, which you would place on there. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
And you would...you would roll it into a roll like that. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
then you would... | 0:28:13 | 0:28:14 | |
cut it, and you would get your pills. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
And that is the birth of a pill? | 0:28:20 | 0:28:21 | |
That is a birth of a pill, then having got them nice like that, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
you would want to round them, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
make sure they were nice and spherical. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
Once they were spherical you would put them in this, a pill-coater, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
to coat them with, sometimes, gold leaf, silver leaf, sugar... | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
the coating actually changes the characteristics of the pill inside, you know. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
So you... In those days, I don't think they had music to go with this, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
but maybe this is where the maracas came from! | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
When they were nice and round, you would put them in a pill bottle. And there, the finished article - | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
which have been coated. These have been coated with chocolate. What about this bottle? I noticed, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
when you lifted up the opium bottle, that it's got this ridge. Is that significant? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:10 | |
Yes, very much so. First, it's a green bottle, and that is to change the characteristics of light. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:16 | |
If light got onto the tincture of opium in here, it would speed up its decay. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:23 | |
We call this a "ribbed" bottle and, of course, this is to give you a tactile as well as a visual reminder | 0:29:23 | 0:29:30 | |
that this stuff is poisonous. And these things, being poison, had to be very carefully recorded. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
Oh, yes. Pharmacy was institutionalised, or put on statute, in 1841. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:43 | |
In the course of it, one had to take careful notes. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
The pharmacist had a responsibility to know to whom he was selling certain drugs and for what purpose, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:52 | |
so they had a register. And this is over a hundred years old, isn't it? | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
This is just a hundred years old, but in terms of original pharmacy, I have this book | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
that goes back to 20th November 1863. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
And I can see that a Mr John McLean was given a tonic made up by Mr McPherson, the pharmacist, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:14 | |
according to one of his own particular recipes. Wonder if it did the trick? Oh, I'm sure it did! | 0:30:14 | 0:30:21 | |
Well, I suppose we get used to looking at these in glass cabinets or in galleries, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
but the joy of a pot like this is holding it, the feel of it, isn't it? Yes, yes. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:33 | |
Of course these are by one of our greatest modern potters, Lucy Rie. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
How come you've got two? More important, when did you get them? | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
Well, I got them in the 1960s, when I was teaching out in Africa and came through London and went to Primavera | 0:30:41 | 0:30:47 | |
and bought these two things - 4/6d each - | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
and had them with me in Africa from then on, and used them. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
They used to come camping with me, they used to be slung into the chock box along with the pots and pans, | 0:30:54 | 0:31:01 | |
and they survived. Well, it's nice to think that the potters who made them | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
was creating objects to be used. She wanted you to use her pots. Absolutely, yes. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
These things have given me more pleasure than almost anything else, so I wrote to her and told her | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
about using them in Africa. So this is the letter that she sent me. Oh, she wrote back to you! | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
She was 92, I think. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
She's heard about your adventures with her pots and they were, after all, meant to be functional. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
Yes. She was a grand old lady. She'd had a great tradition of making pottery by hand | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
and she was creating a new style in modern pottery. Yes. When you look at the simplicity of that... | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
It's beautiful. Look at this sgraffito work. Just scratched them through - controlled very well | 0:31:38 | 0:31:44 | |
so it gives a light pattern to the rim. Just really so successful! | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
But these are so very different pieces of pottery indeed. Yes. These, you presumably you got... | 0:31:48 | 0:31:54 | |
when you were in Africa? Yes, at the pottery at Abuja that was started by Michael Cardew | 0:31:54 | 0:32:00 | |
after he came from the other West African countries. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
Michael Cardew was a British potter who went over to set up a pottery at Abuja. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
He was learning from their traditions and introducing British traditions to them. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
This is the famous African tradition of Abuja pottery... | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
this, much more European, yet it still works with the traditional African figures, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
That's something you got at the same time? Yes, though from further south. It's from the Yoruba people. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
You know, they do go together, they have the same sort of... So you're collecting the tribal arts? Yes. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
And also bringing back pottery to go with your more modern pottery traditions here. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
And of course, these ARE domestic pieces, still, but most of Abuja... | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
You can actually collect Abuja quite affordably now. It hasn't yet reached crazy prices. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
That tureen is going to be a few hundred pounds today. It's becoming collected. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
Well, I hope, I hope. Indeed, but of course, by Lucy Rie, domestic or not, is now serious money, isn't it? | 0:32:49 | 0:32:57 | |
Probably is but I'll be keeping those. Those are very, very precious. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
As, as you should, but it's best not to use them too much now when, to a collector... | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
But I do use them, I get tremendous pleasure from using them. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
It's a privilege, in a way. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
That's nice. But they're probably worth, what, £3,000 each. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
Oh, don't say things like that. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
No, I doubt it very much, not as much as that. Anyway, they're actually used. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Lucy Rie from the '60s is serious art now, but it's also great pottery, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
A lovely story. Great meeting you. Thank you very much. Thank you. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Now, I don't come from a maritime or sea family, but all my life I've liked things to do with the sea, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:39 | |
I don't know why it is. I've always admired these three-dimensional but rather primitive models of ships | 0:33:39 | 0:33:45 | |
and I've always wanted one, but never had one. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
This is a particularly nice one. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
It's a barque - I suppose the end of the 19th century - | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
three-masted barque. Tell me about it, what's the connection with you? | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
This is my grandfather. He was a captain at sea in the late '80s. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
This is his ship. He made this himself. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
So this old story one hears so often of the sailors in their idle moments making models is true? | 0:34:05 | 0:34:11 | |
It's true yes, he made this himself, the cage, everything. So we've got a model of your grandfather's ship. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
Now, what was he doing? Was he in the grain trade or general cargo? | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
Probably general cargo and passengers. Ships like this were sailing to Australia for grain | 0:34:20 | 0:34:26 | |
and were still carrying cargoes like tea. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
There was a lot of activity of this sort of ship. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
Now this box...? This box belonged to my grandfather as well. Right. And he had all his documents in there. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
Right, so there we've got the same ship. Same ship yeah. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
And he painted that? He painted that himself. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
So again, we add to the story. So not only does he make ship models, he also paints. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
Yeah. Because again, the old mythology is that sea captains would have their special box | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
with a portrait of their ship. Yes. I've always believed it, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
but I've never known it to be absolutely accurate. But here... Oh, it is. ..you can guarantee it. Yes. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
If we move on... | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
Now we've moved on a generation, in shipping terms, we're in the 1930s I imagine. So who is this? | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
This is my father's ship, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
a yacht owned by Sir Thomas Sopwith of aircraft fame. Wait a minute! So Tommy Sopwith owned this yacht? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:14 | |
He owned this yacht, yeah. This is the Vita, Royal Thames Yacht Club. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
That's right. And what was your father to do with that? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
He was a sailor, an able seaman on that yacht. They used to go across to America for the Americas Cup. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:27 | |
They used to tow the yachts. So the yachts were towed across the Atlantic. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
The racing yachts, yeah, and the crew of these yachts would stay in these...accommodations | 0:35:30 | 0:35:36 | |
on the way across the Atlantic. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Right, and then... Then they'd be fit and ready when they got there. Then they would race the yachts. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:45 | |
And which is your father? This is my father, that's my father. Right. He went to sea at probably 14, 15. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:51 | |
Right. And the captain of these ships was a local man called McKillop, Captain McKillop. Right. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:58 | |
And he took the young boys to sea. So a lot of these people came from...? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
Most of these people are islanders. These two linking together I think is wonderful! | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
If you think in terms of value, it's much more to do with the family story - this is your grandfather - | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
but just to put it in market terms, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
a model like that now fetches between £400 to £600. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:22 | |
A painted box like that will be a bit less, but in the same sort of area. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:28 | |
But much... The value is greatly added to by the fact that you can identify who did it. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
Again we're looking at slightly less for that. The Sopwith connection makes it important. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:38 | |
Normally that would be about £200 or £300. I think, because of the Sopwith link, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
again one can say probably about £600 or £700. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
Now, these are very unusual cards. They date from the Cromwellian period - 1649, when he came to power | 0:36:51 | 0:36:57 | |
and chopped Charles' head off and then declared himself Protector. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
And just looking through, they all appear to me to be pro the King and anti-Cromwell. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:08 | |
As a Puritan, Oliver Cromwell would not have approved of these cards at all, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
Because Puritans...obviously, gaming and all this sort of thing is not on, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:19 | |
so these were an act of rebellion, really, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
and they are quite incredible! They're all political. Here, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
"A free state, or a toleration of all sorts of villainy." | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
Here, "Oliver seeking God," | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
and there's obviously the king having his head chopped off | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
in the background there. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
They're wonderful! And they're copperplate engravings. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
They'd do, I don't know, about a whole page of them at one time and then cut them out later. Yes. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:50 | |
But it's a remarkable collection. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
Unfortunately, you don't have a complete collection. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
Yes. I don't know where the others disappeared to. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
Can I ask you where they came from? Because I think that's important. What is their provenance? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
Just don't know. You don't know. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
My wife's great-grandmother had them at one stage, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
we know that much, but other than that, I'm afraid, we just don't know how they appeared in her family. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
But look here, the "High Court of Justice or Oliver's Slaughter House" | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
I mean what could be more anti-Cromwell? These would have been hidden and, you know, you would... | 0:38:19 | 0:38:26 | |
I'm sure this was a treasonable act, to be caught playing with these. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:32 | |
Yes. Anyway I would need further and better particulars from a history book of some sort, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:38 | |
but I'm sure we could get to the bottom of them. But they are, I am sure, incredibly rare. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
Just as engravings themselves, I think that they would be worth | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
somewhere between, what, £800 and £1,000. But as an incomplete deck of cards, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:54 | |
I think possibly they might be worth even more than that. This is subversion - great stuff. | 0:38:54 | 0:39:01 | |
Yes. That's been my life, I think! Strange that I've got them here. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
Subversion's why you've come to live in Lewis, is it? In Lewis, yes. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
Well, I bought this picture about 15 years ago and, since I bought it, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
I've seen in various places, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
in card shops and in buildings, similar prints. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
Subjects that are close to it. Yes, I was wondering what the original... | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Where it had been sourced from. Right. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
Not a print, actually. This is in fact an oil painting by Jack Hoggan, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
signed down here. Interesting man, actually, because he worked as a mining engineer in Fife | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
until, well, well into his 20s. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
and then his girlfriend, when he was about 21, gave him a set of watercolour paints | 0:39:40 | 0:39:46 | |
and he set about trying to teach himself to paint, and became surprisingly successful, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:52 | |
moving on to oils. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
He didn't really use many subjects that he made up from his own mind, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
he would look at other pictures | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
and make pastiches, really, you'd have to call them, of subjects from other artists. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:06 | |
I think here he borrowed heavily from an artist called John Lavery - this is typical | 0:40:06 | 0:40:12 | |
of his sunlit garden scenes with a pretty girl wearing an 1890s costume, sitting in a deck chair - | 0:40:12 | 0:40:19 | |
but he would then alter them quite considerably so that they became his own, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
and really became more generic rather than specific. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
Well, I actually bought it... It was in Elie in Fife that I bought the painting. Oh, was it? | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
That's interesting. So, where he lived I suppose? And when was this? | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
About 15 years ago. And what did you pay for it? | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
I don't remember. I wasn't out looking for a painting, I was actually out grocery shopping, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
and it was in a window of a bric-a-brac second-hand shop. And I liked it. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
Saw it, loved it, bought it. Yes. Yes, that's so often the way. I thought a couple of hundred pounds... | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
You didn't find anything out about the artist then? No, just bought it. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
I didn't think about anything other than I really liked the picture. Well, that's interesting, you know, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:03 | |
because if the story ended there, this picture would probably be worth considerably more than that, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
something in the region of £2,000, something like that. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
Very pretty picture. But, you see, the story doesn't end there, really. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
in 1988, he changed his name. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
And I won't tell you what to, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
not yet, but I will tell you what his most famous picture is now. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
Um, you may have noticed it. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
it's a picture of a butler with an umbrella standing on the seashore, do you know what I mean? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
Yes. Very modern one. Very modern. It's called The Singing Butler. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
And this artist changed his name in 1988 | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
to Vettriano, Jack Vettriano. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
so it's very interesting in that respect because, of course, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
Jack Vettriano's pictures do sell for rather more money than that. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
And, in fact, "The Singing Butler" sold earlier in this year | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
for £744,000. Is that so? | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
Yes, it's a lot of money, I know. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
Now he's been called the "people's painter", Jack Vettriano, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
because the art establishment tends to turn its nose up at his pictures somewhat - | 0:42:06 | 0:42:12 | |
some would say rightly - | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
but the people love him, his prices show you that. The two markets are HELD very distinct - | 0:42:15 | 0:42:21 | |
those for Hoggan, those for Vettriano - | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
and it's said that the Vettrianos, that is, those painted after 1988, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
are those that have HIS ideas in them, and the ones pre-'88 are the pastiches, you see. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:33 | |
Um, that line does become blurred. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
Those people that market his pictures would prefer it was extremely clear... | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
Hoggan - different market, Vettriano - different market, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
but certainly, I think, when you look at this, you realise that the two, two kinds of painting | 0:42:43 | 0:42:49 | |
are very, very similar. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
So I really don't think that we can value it | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
at less than £15,000 to £20,000. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
Good grief. Wow. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
That's fantastic. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
Well, life is full of wonderful surprises. But here in the top left-hand corner of Great Britain, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:14 | |
the weather has had the last laugh. after our wonderful day of filming yesterday, today the rains came. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:20 | |
Luckily, the roof of the new sports centre doesn't leak. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
So thank you very much to the people of Stornoway and round about | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
for braving the elements and bringing us their treasures. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
From the Isle of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides, goodbye. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 |