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Welcome to another far-reaching pilgrimage by the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
In fact, for this series we may go further than we've ever gone before. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
For openers, we've come to Lichfield in Staffordshire, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
where 7th-century pilgrims used to come looking for miracles at the shrine of St Chad. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:46 | |
The church of St Chad is long gone. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
In its place, a pretty miraculous building - the only English medieval cathedral with three spires. | 0:00:54 | 0:01:02 | |
This is where we're doing our show. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
The Gothic nave is being transformed as we carefully install our state-of-the-art technology, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
but Lichfield Cathedral has been through worse ordeals than this. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
Its commanding position and massive stonework made it a perfect fortress, and in the Civil War, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:24 | |
it held the record for sieges, three of them altogether. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
On 2nd March 1643, the Royalists were in charge | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
and a young fellow called John Dyott, known as "Dumb Dyott", | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
stood here, on the central spire, carrying a duck gun loaded with lead, taken from the cathedral roof. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:52 | |
In his sights, in the street a quarter of a mile away, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
was a high-ranking Parliamentarian, Lord Brooke. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
-Dyott pulled the trigger. -GUNSHOT | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
To everyone's amazement, his aim was deadly accurate. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
Lord Brooke was shot through the eye and killed. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
"Dumb Dyott" had had the last word. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
The cathedral was a real casualty of war | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
and when the Parliamentarians took over in 1646, they showed little respect for the building, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:18 | |
even stabling their horses in the nave. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
One of the clerics who worked here in the cathedral library anticipated the mayhem, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
and smuggled out the Lichfield Gospels, putting them in the care of the Duchess of Somerset. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:35 | |
She returned them safely, with 1,000 books from her collection, to replace those that were destroyed. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
One of the stars of the library's collection | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
is a first edition by Lichfield's famous son, Samuel Johnson. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
His momentous Dictionary Of The English Language | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
has just celebrated its 250th birthday. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
Samuel Johnson was a man of many words and very definite opinions. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
He once wrote, "The pleasure of expecting enjoyment is often greater than that of obtaining it." | 0:03:00 | 0:03:07 | |
Let's hope that doesn't apply to today's Roadshow! | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
The stained glass windows here at Lichfield Cathedral are replicated in the fantastic colourful costumes | 0:03:12 | 0:03:19 | |
of this Punch and Judy set that you've brought in. Tell me where they came from. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
-I presume that they must be a family inheritance. -No. No, they weren't. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
I started collecting toys when my house was open to the public, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
and we had a little house in Chelsea | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
and I was looking round in the World's End. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
-I know. -And I found this antique shop there and saw these puppets | 0:03:42 | 0:03:48 | |
and thought, "Oh, I must have those for the collection. I've got nothing like that." | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
And so I went in and bought them. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Well, they are the most exciting group, I have to say. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
The history of Punch and Judy, of course, goes back to the Teatro del Arte, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:05 | |
the Italian tradition of theatrical entertainers, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
and these travelling puppeteers travelled all through France | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
and into England, and brought with them the Punch, or the Punchinello character, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
and this set, I think, is from the middle of the 19th century, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
with these wonderful characters. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
On the far right, we have the policeman. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
We have Punch and his wife Judy | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
with a rather... a rather strange-looking baby. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
Now who is this? | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
-Let me just have a look at him, because he is, I think, one of the most exciting characters. -Yes. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:44 | |
And all these little figures have a label on there, in very neat writing, and this says "Pantaloon". | 0:04:44 | 0:04:51 | |
So this is the character Pantaloon, who, of course, we don't see in present-day Punch and Judy shows. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
-But his face is so extraordinary, isn't it? -Yes. Do you think they're carved wood? | 0:04:56 | 0:05:02 | |
-They are carved wood, then covered with a very thin layer of whiting or gesso, which softens the edges. -Yes. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:09 | |
It creates a good grounding then for the paint. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
-So here we have Mr Pantaloon. Now, who's he? He looks as if he's the sort of... -..Is he the beadle? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:19 | |
-The beadle, exactly! Almost Dickensian, isn't he? -Looking very official, yes. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
I've seen a lot of Punch and Judy sets, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
but these have what I can only describe as an X factor. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
It's something to do with the quality of the carving, and I think also the quality of the painting, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:37 | |
the costume, and also, one has to say, their condition. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
It looks to me as if they've never, ever been used. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
Well, when I bought them, they were in a little travelling... a wooden suitcase with a handle, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:53 | |
so obviously they were meant to be used, but I've had them for about 50 years | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
-and so they've been in a glass case all that time. -And you've never been tempted... | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
-No.. -..to put your hand up and give them a go? -I haven't tried. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
Think back 50 years. How much do you think you would have paid for them? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
I don't know. It wouldn't have been a great deal. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
-50 years ago, they wouldn't have been valued at a great deal. -No. -Nobody appreciated them. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
So what are they worth now? I think that they would be worth... | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
It must be £5,000. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
I mean, they are SO unusual. They are SO perfect. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
And, best of all, they're such fun. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
"Please treat this book with care when you look through it. Thank you." | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
-So who put this in here? -That was me. I was a primary school teacher. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
This book was on display as a resource. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Well, I have to say you shouldn't stick it in, a note in like this, with Blu-tac. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:54 | |
It stains the book and it really isn't very good for it. I'd take that out after we've finished. | 0:06:54 | 0:07:00 | |
But, anyway, having smacked you for that, this is the most fantastic album I think I've seen, of scraps, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:06 | |
in a very long time. Where did you get it from? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
This album belonged, originally, to my wife's great aunts, who lived in the Black Country, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:16 | |
born in the 1870s and died in the 1960s. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
-So they were maiden aunts? -Yes. -Awfully fashionable. -Yes. -And what did they do? | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
-They were both in service at various houses throughout the country. -What, big houses? -Yes. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:31 | |
-So you could imagine them climbing the stairs to their garrets at night... -Absolutely. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
..and sticking the scraps in. It's meticulous, isn't it? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
-I mean, this is Albert Victor. Albert Victor... -Yes. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
..who was supposed to... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
Some people believed that he was Jack the Ripper. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
-I see. -I don't think he was clever enough for that. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
And he was engaged to Princess Mary of Teck, as she was then, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
and he died, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
and so Queen Mary conveniently slipped off and married his brother... | 0:07:56 | 0:08:02 | |
-Oh, right. -..who became George V. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
That's a bit of history I wasn't aware of. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
You've got virtually the whole royalty of Europe here. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
-Yes. -The royalty of Europe were all related to Queen Victoria. -Yes. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
-Oh, and this one, I like this one. -That's one of our favourites. -Wonderful Victorian sentimentality! | 0:08:13 | 0:08:20 | |
-Here's the death of the Prince Consort at Buckingham Palace. -Right. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
And there's Queen Victoria with her Prime Minister, Disraeli. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
-And it goes on and on and on. -On the old Empire, as it would have been then. -The old Empire. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:34 | |
Absolutely fantastic! It's an exceptional album, and I suppose you want me to value it? | 0:08:34 | 0:08:41 | |
-Um, it's been rebound at some stage with this sort of covering. -Yes. -Take the label out. -Yes! | 0:08:41 | 0:08:48 | |
You've got an album that's worth the best part of, what, £800 to £1,000. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:54 | |
It's fantastic. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
-Can I be very rude and ask you how old you are? -82. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
-82? -Next month. -Well, do you know, this is just a little bit older than you are. Not much. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:07 | |
It was probably made around 1900, 1910. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
And can you tell me anything about the history? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Well, I was a teenager, a very young teenager, when my mother came in with it. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
She was one that went round antique shops. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
-Ah! -She picked it up. That's all I can tell you. I didn't like it. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
I voiced my opinion when she brought it in, but she took no notice. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
And so you never liked it, but you've kept it? | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
I like it now. When the china's in, it looks lovely. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
-What about your daughters? ..What do you think of it? -Well, I don't really like it. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
It stood in our front room when we were small children | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
and we weren't allowed to play there for fear that we did some damage. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
So it's got a sense of foreboding, really, for me and, in fact, this is probably the closest I've ever stood. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
-I think I'm going to move slightly away from it. -And what about you? | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
I think it's pretty, I've always liked it, actually. It's exquisite. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
So it's one for and one against, which is an interesting situation. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
It's from the beginning of the century, Art Nouveau. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
It's very English Art Nouveau. It's quite restrained. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
This has little details like this overhanging eave or cornice, which is quite flat. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
That's absolutely characteristic of the period in England, and so are these little inlays, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
copper and pewter, or copper and tin, and this delightful wood inlay, and brass and pewter at the base. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:33 | |
Quite interesting. Usually you find this sort of cabinet in mahogany, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:38 | |
whereas this one is satinwood, which gives it that lovely golden colour. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
At the top, at the back, there is a registration mark, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
which means that, although I can't see any maker's name, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
we could probably look up in the patent number, the register, and find out when it was registered | 0:10:49 | 0:10:55 | |
and who registered the design, who made this piece. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Often having a maker will increase the value. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
Value. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
Well, there are one or two little areas of damage, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
but I would think £1,200 to £1,500. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
So does that change your feelings about it at all? | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
No, I still like it. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
I like it a bit more, but not a lot. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Excellent. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Well, this bear belonged to my husband's great aunt, Mollie. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
Her husband was called Selwyn, and she always called him "Jimmy". | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
-She always said, "Please look after Jimmy's bear." -Look at him. Look at those yellow eyes. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
This is a very special bear. I see so many on the Roadshow, and they're usually the expensive Steiff ones, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:41 | |
which are the German ones, so it's wonderful for me to find an English one that is really special. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:48 | |
He's by JK Farnell, John Kirby Farnell. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
I think he's more likely to be about 1910, and his fur is very special | 0:11:51 | 0:11:57 | |
because it's silvery, so it's not an ordinary bear colour, and it's very collectable. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
And he's stuffed with the usual... what they always call "sawdust" but it's not. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
It's thin strips of lime wood. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
-Anyway, I'm going to get to a very important point... -He used to growl, can I just say? He really growled! | 0:12:10 | 0:12:17 | |
-And he no longer wants to... -No! -So have you any idea...? | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
I haven't a clue. I'm not interested, other than to tell my children, "Look after him!" and get him insured. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:28 | |
-Maybe we should say that, so that they will look after him. -Yes, yes. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
And for insurance, you should insure him for £5,000. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
You are... | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
Good grief! Well, he will be insured, because he's not going anywhere. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
-Thank you so much. -I'm glad to hear it. -Gosh! He's such a dear bear. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
-Oh, you are... -I am, actually. -You're going to make me cry now. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
This has been in the family as long as I have, and it's said to come from Howard Carter's estate. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:03 | |
We understand that it came out of Tutankhamun's tomb. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
My grandmother knew Howard Carter and when his estate was sold up, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
she went to the auction and bought this artefact. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
And that was when? | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
Erm... | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
1939, I think, that sort of time. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
-Which squares perfectly with the base. -Yes. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
That is a typical base that you'd find on a 1930s bronze and ivory figure, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
-but here we have a statue of a much more ancient gentleman. -Right. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
-You think that it may have come out of the tomb of Tutankhamun? -Yes, that's the family history. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:39 | |
-Stylistically, it's much later... -Right. -..than Tutankhamun. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
-Yeah. -This is probably, maybe getting on for 1,000 years later. -Right. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
Getting on to 600 BC or thereabouts. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
But the interesting and nice link with it is that it is actually a statue of the god Amun... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:57 | |
-Right. -..after whom Tutankhamun is named. -Right, really? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
He was originally named Tutankhaten, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
-but the religion changed and Amun became top dog. -Right. -That's him. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
So maybe Carter had a penchant for the god | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
after whom his most famous tomb was named, and there he is. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
He's rather spectacular. Bronze with beautiful details - look at that wonderful plaited beard of his. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:26 | |
He would have been holding a flail, I think, and it is a very, very nice object. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:32 | |
The problem with valuing this is not what it is, when it was made - we know that - but the provenance. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:38 | |
It belonged to one of the most famous Egyptologists of the 20th century, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
the man who opened the tomb of King Tut. That gives it a kick extra. How big is that kick? I don't know. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:50 | |
-Yeah. -Let us say, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
conservatively, it's probably worth somewhere in the region | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
-of £2,000, £3,000. -Lovely. That's very nice. Thank you for telling me that. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
Now this is a heroic piece, isn't it? | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
-I think that's the best way of describing it. -Yes. -What do you know about it? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
I believe the model was an airman in the Second World War, a pilot. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
And it's by Dora Gordine. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Gordine, yes. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
When I started to look into the background and everything, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
I found later on, about the house that she'd given to, with a lot of these things, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:30 | |
-to the University of Kingston, I think it is. -Yes. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
I took myself off to London and that's how I realised I'd got something I didn't know about. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:42 | |
Yes. But you must have known it was a good thing. It's very powerful. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
Well, we liked it. My husband liked it very much. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
-And when was it produced? -About 1942. And there are... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:55 | |
-There is an identical one in that house in Kingston. -That's interesting. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
You can see it's clearly signed by Dora Gordine. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
-Yes. -And then it's actually got number 4. -4 of 6. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
Quite a small edition for bronzes, it was often nine. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
Dora Gordine, you'll probably know, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:10 | |
-born in Petersburg of a Russian mother and a Scottish father. -Yes. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
She brings to English sculpture between the wars, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
a really quite an exotic feel, I think, a new influence. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
It's not just from Russia and it's not just from Singapore, where she later spent some time. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:29 | |
I think his features are slightly Asiatic, actually, don't you think? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
-The way the eyebrows are done, there's a slightly Asiatic feel to the face. -Yes, I agree, yes. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
I wondered whether she picked that up in Singapore, where she went with her first husband. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
At any rate, the other thing she did was spend time in Paris, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
where she met the French sculptor, Aristide Maillol. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
Now, he is quite clearly a strong influence on this sculpture, I think, because he went in for | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
this very heroic style, very far apart from what Rodin was doing at the same time, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:03 | |
which is very flowing and very human. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
You'd expect that, actually, thinking about it, of an airman in the Second World War, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
-because they did save the country, the Battle of Britain. -Absolutely. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
-So there's an appropriateness to the stance, to the figure. This is the personification of the hero. -Yes. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:20 | |
Have you had it valued? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
I was told, when I went, um, to Kingston, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
that it was not possible to value him | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
because one had never come on the market before. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
-There hasn't been one on the market. -And I don't think still there has. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
But there is, on the other hand, a big resurgence of interest in the art of this period. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:44 | |
Um...and particularly the sculpture of this style. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
It should command a price about £6,000 retail, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
-but it's not something you'll be selling, I imagine. -I would not sell it, no. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
We always rather liked him. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
-Where he is at home, it's a very, very austere background, you know. -Suits it quite well. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:04 | |
He's not going to come out so well here! | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
Time to be amazed by this week's dedicated collector. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Without show business, there is no business for Fred Mead because he collects theatrical memorabilia. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:19 | |
-In fact, not so much collect as amass. -We do, Michael. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
We have 6,000 items at home, covering most of the performing arts. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
And all your life you've been collecting? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
I've been collecting since I've been about 11 when I first saw a theatre programme that my parents took me to. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:35 | |
-Has it been difficult to find these pieces? -Some are quite rare. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
Most come from dealers or specialist collectors. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
Some of the items, in fact, come from actors themselves, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
because if you write a nice letter, you may be lucky to get a souvenir sent back. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
So this is just a selection. What's the oldest piece you've got? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
The oldest items come from the Roman era. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
These are Roman theatre tickets, or theatre tokens. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
I think it's interesting to think as to what kind of performances these tokens may have seen. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:05 | |
They could have been gladiatorial contests, or even mimes, of course. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
-So the performers might not have finished the show? -Indeed! That's probably quite true. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
-Fred, who was Chung Ling Soo? -Chung Ling Soo was as much a mystery off stage as he was on. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:20 | |
He was a very famous Chinese conjuror who appeared around 1900, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
and whenever he appeared for interviews, he always had an interpreter with him. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
His most famous trick was the bullet-catch trick. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
In this trick, two guns would be loaded and aimed at Chung Ling Soo, and fired. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
He'd catch the bullets in his teeth and drop them into a plate at the end of the performance. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
One evening, he didn't check the apparatus. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
When the guns were fired, the bullets hit Chung Ling Soo, he fell to the stage and died the following day. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
But the mystery didn't end there. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
Only after he died did the general public realise that he wasn't Chinese at all, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
but an American conjuror by the name of William Ellsworth Robinson. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
This is an unusual autograph, because Chung Ling Soo had autographed the album page | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
and had written, "Go slowly - you will live longer." Slightly ironic. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
-Do my eyes deceive me, or is that a letter from Houdini? -Yes. It is a letter from Houdini, the magician. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
Synonymous with magic, but more famous for escapology, of course. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
Houdini, as you probably know, died in 1926 | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
after somebody struck him in the stomach | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
because he said he could withstand almost any blows, which he could, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
but Houdini wasn't prepared for this blow when this student hit him. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
Unfortunately, so the story goes, it ruptured his appendix. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
A letter from Houdini, addressed to somebody in Southend-on-Sea! | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
David Garrick was from Lichfield. He would have been interested in this. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
-Are you a frustrated thespian? -Frustrated maybe, but I'm not quite sure about thespian. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
You do the occasional trick, do you? | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
-You can use your props? That fan, for example? -We can use... | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
I'm not actually a magician, but this is a rather unusual fan that I could actually say to you, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:04 | |
-"Thank you, good night." -Follow that! | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
Imagine yourself as a guest at an English country estate. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
You've just arrived and are waiting for the main meal of the day, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
which would have been taken at three o'clock in the afternoon. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
This is how you might have just spent the first two hours of your visit, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
being shown round this wonderful landscape. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
You're walking, you're talking. Here, you're flirting even. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
And this lovely figure has got a fishing-line, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
just flicked over into the water. I love the dog down here. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:46 | |
It tells us so much about what was going on at the end of the 18th century. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
-How this has been done is in layers, rather like doing the backdrop of a stage set. -I see. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:58 | |
Some of the figures in the front and some of the landscape | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
will have been painted directly reversed onto the glass. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
And then, behind that, if you took it to bits, I think you would find a sheet of paper | 0:22:08 | 0:22:14 | |
which has also been painted with a landscape. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
So you get this sort of 3D-effect. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
It really is an absolutely startling image. I love it. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
Tell me the story here. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
Well, it's been in the family as long as I know, possibly about 100 years. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
My mother-in-law used to have it in her house here in Lichfield and then, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
when the house was sold and items were divided up by the family, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
I particularly liked this painting and said, "Can I have it?" So... | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
There's not a lot known about the artists who paint these reverse paintings. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Classically, they're done in China, and they're taken from engravings and images, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:56 | |
for export back into the English market. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
But I feel pretty certain that this in an English painter. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
-I think we're looking at a figure somewhere in the region of... £3,000 to £4,000. -Gosh! | 0:23:02 | 0:23:08 | |
I'm amazed. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
It does, however, leave you with a slight problem, because in no way is this fitting securely in its frame. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
It's completely unstable. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Because its value is that it is perfect, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
the most important thing is to get it properly framed and properly secured within its frame. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:28 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
I'm always absolutely delighted when people bring long case clocks along to the Roadshow, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
particularly where we've got an automaton that we can get working. What do you think of that? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:41 | |
Well, quite frankly, that's the first time I've seen that working in my lifetime. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
My father disconnected it before I was born because it didn't keep good time if the automaton was working. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
-Seriously? -Absolutely. -You've never seen that go before? -No. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
The clock should run absolutely perfectly with that going. When it goes home, I'm sure it will. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:01 | |
-And you've really known it all your life? -Oh, yes. It was the only clock we had. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
We lived in the country, no radio, no electricity. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
Father used to go out at nine o'clock at night and listen to the town hall clock at Preston eight miles away, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
-rush in and set the clock and that set us up for two or three weeks. -So you're a Lancashire man? -Yes. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:22 | |
And here we are, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
J Alker of Wigan. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
You probably know there were a large family of Alkers working | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
for about 120 years in Wigan, and this fits in exactly. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
This is one of the Johns and it fits in exactly with the date of the clock as being around 1830. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:41 | |
It's the most extraordinary thing because it's a highly visual clock, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
absolutely typical of a north country clock from the 1830s, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
and yet we've got this incredible mixture of a very military case | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
with this very Biblical movement. And the four spandrels, | 0:24:56 | 0:25:02 | |
-which are painted with Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Do you know who these are? -Faith, Hope and Charity. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:08 | |
Faith, Hope and Charity makes very good sense to me. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
It's a very attractive dial, but not the sort of thing I'd expect to see with the rest of the case. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:18 | |
Then we've got these two superb pictures. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
We have Nelson, we have Hardy there, we've got Royal Marines fighting on the quarterdeck. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
What do you know about that? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
Erm... Well, it's always intrigued me, all my life. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
My wife and I tried to find out where the original is, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
and it is in the museum opposite The Victory at Portsmouth. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
Right, what a concoction! | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
What a wonderfully visual piece! | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
An incredibly difficult thing to value, mainly because it's not really a clock man's clock. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:53 | |
It's going to sell to somebody who just loves Nelson, not that you'd ever sell it. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
But, as a rough guide, I suppose, if it came up at auction with all this... | 0:25:59 | 0:26:05 | |
-probably between £7,000 and £10,000. -Good. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
I just can't believe this is a box for a Schuco scent bottle. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
Look at that! Look at the colour of it! | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
How did you find it in such good condition? | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
-A car-boot sale. -Do you go to a lot of them? -I do, yes. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
What time do you get there? | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
-Half past four. -They don't open at half past four. -They do. -Do they? -They do, they do. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
-And that's how you found him? -Yeah, yeah. -Just sitting there? -No, it was in a chest of drawers. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
That is fantastic! Look at that colour! | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
Schuco was a very good German maker, as you probably know. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
These were patented in 1926. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
The fact that he's in the original box adds another... | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
Well, double what he would otherwise be making at auction. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
Do you mind if I ask you how much you paid? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
It was £3. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
-Well, you've done extremely well. With the box, £500 to £700. -Really? | 0:27:07 | 0:27:13 | |
-Fantastic, thank you. -Thanks very much. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
You've brought two catalogues, Volumes Two and Three, Catalogue Of Artistic Japanese Bronze Ware. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:23 | |
Let's look at Volume Three, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
which is "K Kakuha, most reliable and reasonable establishment in the East. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:32 | |
"Largest manufacturer of every description of artistic bronzes and brass ware." | 0:27:32 | 0:27:38 | |
-I love this shop here. -Yes. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
-Now, is it possible that one of your family members went through that very door? -I do think it might be. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:46 | |
We've been travelling into Japan and into India quite a lot at the beginning of the last century | 0:27:46 | 0:27:52 | |
because we were cotton people in Manchester, so we were visiting that way. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
I do believe that probably some of the things that we've got were chosen by those catalogues, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:03 | |
from them, and I think that could be why we haven't got Volume One. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
I feel that Volume One is probably the one that has got the ticks and the choices in. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:13 | |
Do you know whether any of your family went to the great exhibitions out in Japan? | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
Yes, we've got a panel at home which the family tradition says | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
was bought at the Great Tokyo Exhibition of 1901. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
-Ah! -Whether anything else was bought at the time, I don't know. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
-The family doesn't have any record of anything like that. -That is a magical date. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
-Japan, of course, had been totally isolated from Europe for most of the late 18th and 19th centuries. -Yes. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
It starts opening up in the 1860s. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
-By the time we get to the Great Tokyo Exhibition of 1901, it has almost become European-ised. -Yes. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:51 | |
-Hence this sort of catalogue, when Europeans like your family were out there visiting. -Yes. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
This is the thrilling thing for me. You may find it naughty of me to be ignoring these lovely pieces. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:02 | |
This is a wonderful catalogue. A great document. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
I can't put a value on these because I have never seen such catalogues before, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:11 | |
but it strikes me that the family, having gone to those exhibitions, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:17 | |
-was intending to buy using these catalogues. They took them away as a privilege. -Yes. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:23 | |
That leads me on to this piece behind us. What's its history? | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
Well, this is Wallace. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
-Wallace. -He's been Wallace ever since I can remember. -It's not a very Japanese name, Wallace. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
No. Well, if you remember, Stanley Holloway did a monologue and he had a stick with a horse's head handle, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:41 | |
and his little boy put his head in the mouth of a lion at the zoo. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
I think that's why we call him Wallace. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
It is a remarkably good piece. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
I mean, look at the way the stripes are alternately burnished, given this matt finish, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:57 | |
so you've got this wonderful variation in the tone. It's an incredibly robust, muscular object. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:03 | |
The one thing these catalogues don't tell us is... | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
-Yes. -..prices. -Right. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
Do we have any idea what Wallace might have cost? | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
-No, we don't. -Right. OK. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
-Well, for me, it's a toss up whether these are more valuable than this, in real terms. -Oh, right, yes. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:21 | |
But, in money terms, I can say that Wallace is the sort of guy | 0:30:21 | 0:30:28 | |
who, if you were to buy him in a shop or at a very smart fair today, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:35 | |
would cost you... | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
-certainly in the region of £6,000 to £9,000. -Yes. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:44 | |
Yes, well, he's very nice. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
This is such an interesting interior scene. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
If I'm not mistaken, I think this man is looking at fossils, it appears to be. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
Is this someone you know in the picture? | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Yes, this is my great-grandfather, Alfred Leeds. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
He was involved in digging up fossils at Eyebury, Peterborough. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:09 | |
And did he form a collection? | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
Yes, he did. He formed a collection, part of which is in the National History Museum | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
and the other part is at the Hunterian Museum in Glasgow. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
What interests me is the monogram down here. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
When I first saw this, there's one artist that signs with an "N", | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
who is called Sir William Nicholson. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
But this is not his usual monogram. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
-Do you know anything about Nicholson? -Only that he was my great-grandfather's cousin. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:40 | |
Right. Well, looking at the date here, and it's dated 1889, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
and he was born in 1872 - | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
an early work painted by Sir William Nicholson when he's 17 years old. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:53 | |
Now, he became, in the 20th century, a great artist. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
He had a son, | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
who became almost even more famous than him. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
He was called Ben Nicholson who, as you know, was the artist who went to St Ives with Christopher Wood | 0:32:03 | 0:32:10 | |
and he became an abstract artist. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
I think it must have been a fascinating family dynamic there, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
because this man's brother was the curator of the Ashmolean Museum | 0:32:18 | 0:32:24 | |
and also a friend of Lawrence of Arabia, so I think it must... | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
-It's amazing, all the connections. -Fantastic, yes. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
There was an exhibition last year of Sir William Nicholson's work in the Royal Academy, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
and he is one of my favourite artists of the 20th century. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
This picture, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
painted when he was 17, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
just shows how technically proficient he was as a 17-year-old. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
His style in the 20th century goes on. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
He does these still lifes of silver and flowers, and he paints silver better than anybody else. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:59 | |
His still lifes are really luxurious and painted loosely, and just what I call very sexy. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:06 | |
They're marvellous, marvellous pictures. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
But to see a work like this is just so interesting, academically. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
So this puts this picture, to a collector, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
in a different light than just being another early picture by an artist. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:21 | |
Value. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
I was looking at this, and I just feel that, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
if this came on the market today, and because he is so important, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
I think this would make probably £8,000 to £12,000 at auction. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
It sounds a lot of money but, believe me, I think, academically, it's really interesting. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
To a collector, I'd actually want this. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
It's more than a 17-year-old boy. I wish I had a 17-year-old son that could paint like that. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:50 | |
-Well, it really is a weird cubist cat, isn't it? -It is, rather, yes. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
-It's quite ugly, to be honest. -You don't like it? -I don't like it, no. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
I inherited it about 21 years ago but really don't know much about it, except that it was... | 0:33:59 | 0:34:05 | |
-I know Louis Wain is famous for cats. -Well, you're quite right. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
Louis Wain is very famous as an illustrator of cats, and cartoon cats in particular. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
Um, but what's interesting is these funny little models made in ceramic. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
Some of them are made on the Continent in hard-paste porcelain. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
This one was made in the UK, in England. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
It's in such lovely condition, but isn't he odd? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
Yes, he is very odd. It doesn't even look like a cat to me. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
-I thought it was just like a warrior lion or... -Do you know what he's for? | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
-No, no. -He's a match-holder. -Right. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
He sits there by the fireside, take your match out, strike it on the wall. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
Shame he hasn't got a match strike, sometimes they do. I think he's marvellous. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
-Right. Were there quite a few characters? -I think there are between 10 and 15 different shapes. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:57 | |
-He dates from round about 1910, 1915, that sort of period. -Yes. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
-He is really quite an unusual one. -Is he? -Yeah. -In what way? | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
-But you haven't done any homework on this? -Not a lot. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
My son found a similar cat and he thought it was valued at about £200, but that was a few years ago. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:15 | |
That's one of the common ones. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
-Right. -I'm not sure exactly how uncommon this one is. -Right. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
-But he's certainly somewhere around £1,000 mark. -Really? You do surprise me. -Could be more. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
-For an ugly character like that? -He's not! He is a marvellous cubist cat. -Right. Now I know(!) | 0:35:26 | 0:35:34 | |
I see you like Mortimer. Of course, Mortimer is one of the premier gunsmiths | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
-that ever operated in London. -Mortimer was one of the top makers, as you say. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:45 | |
But the two pistols here by Mortimer are unique. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
They're Nelson's own. They came from the Davidson Collection, recently auctioned. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:56 | |
Anyone in the world could buy them, which means they would have gone out of the United Kingdom. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
I thought it'd be nice to have them as the pinnacle of my collection and also to save them for the nation. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:08 | |
Good job you were there! | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
Now, you see before Nelson lost his arm at Santa Cruz, he was very much a fighting man himself. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:16 | |
He was always first in the boat, and first out of the boat, onto the enemy ships. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
So there's every possibility he used these weapons at that time. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
Let us talk about one or two. Now, we have a double-barrelled sword pistol. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:30 | |
Now, it's something to see a single-barrelled sword pistol, without a double barrel. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:36 | |
Mind you, not playing the game! One chap draws his sword and then you draw this sword and shoot him. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:42 | |
But, of course, one of the magical weapons. Of course this ISN'T Mortimer. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:49 | |
-Not at all, no. -No, made by Nock, at the time. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
A seven-barrelled volley gun. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
You can imagine, you fire this and all seven barrels go off at once, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
so I don't think you remain standing afterwards, you know. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
-Not probably without a broken shoulder. -Have you ever fired it? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
-I have, actually. -Have you?! -At low charge. -Have to be low charge. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
But it's a hell of a kick. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
Mmm. Nelson wouldn't allow these to be used in the firing tops | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
-because he was worried about the sails catching fire. -Yeah. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
But, of course, you've seen that series, Sharpe? | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
-That's right. -That we've seen on television. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
-The sergeant carries one of these with him, doesn't he? -That's right. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
But I suspect they're naval use rather than infantry. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
Oh, yes, yes. More naval use. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
Now, shall we go to one or two values here? | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
I think this would fetch something like £20,000. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
-The seven-barrelled volley gun, of course, I think because of Sharpe series, the popularity. -Yes. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:52 | |
I've seen them offered at £35,000. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
Wonderful, wonderful things. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
It's a privilege to handle them and see them. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
This jewellery came from my late husband's family and, as far as I believe, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
my father-in-law's grandmother | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
was nanny to Queen Alexandra and Edward VII's children, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:17 | |
or Lord and Lady Knollys' children, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
and Lady Charlotte Knollys was lady-in-waiting to Queen Alexandra. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
Well, fantastic. There's plenty of evidence to back that up, isn't there? | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
-Yes. -These magnificent little presentation brooches are a sort of little march through her career. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:35 | |
This is the cipher of Queen Alexandra, the double A. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
-Yes, that's right. -Under the Royal crown. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
So perhaps this was a Christmas present. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
Maybe that's a birthday present, and yet another one. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
This nanny would wear them with enormous pride, I'm sure. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
These two, actually, made her swell with pride even more. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
Have you thought about the date? 1902, why that would be special? | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
-Um... -It's the coronation of Edward VII. -That's right. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
Certainly, Mrs Martin, the nanny, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
would have shared in the great drama that surrounded the coronation | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
and those at that coronation would have been given a medal. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
More intimate friends would have been given a brooch, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
where the date 1902 is laid out on the lid. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
But if we can get a measure of how intimate this relationship is, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:24 | |
and it very clearly is, we need to look at these stunning telegrams. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
It says, "Handed in at Sandringham. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
"Mrs Martin at Sir John Knollys's stable yard, St James's Palace." | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
And it says, and I think this is full of drama, I really do. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
"Poor dear Baba and tiny Mama miss Nana very much. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
"Hope she is well and not too sad, signed Princess of Wales." | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Would that be the sadness of Queen Alexandra's death? | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
-What's the date of that? -Yes, I suppose that's absolutely right. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
-Of course, you're living with them. Absolutely marvellous. -Yes. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
-That an absolute bombshell to receive. -Yes. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
A bombshell to have taken down by the secretary at the postal office. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
A very exciting moment to get that. Similar excitement here. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
Fantastically exciting invitation. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
It says, "At Sandringham, the Queen wishes to let Nana know | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
-"that she's expected here as usual for Christmas." -That's lovely. -Fantastic. Straight from the heart. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
-Quite a closeness. Very nice. -These were enormously important people | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
that sent these telegrams, gave these jewels. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
What do you really feel about them? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
I just love them. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
I feel as though I'd like to go back in time and be a part of it. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
But, I suppose, in a way, I am a part of it, because they've ended up in my care. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
So, value... Goodness. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
This is almost vulgarity to value them, isn't it? | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
I mean, I don't know where to start. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
A little medallion from the coronation of Edward VII. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
£500 or £600, perhaps, for that. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
Gosh. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
And a brooch commemorating the same occasion, maybe £1,250. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
-Gosh! -And then move on to this one, slightly smaller, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
but much more complex. It's a reverse intaglio. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
It's made of rock crystal that's been engraved from behind, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
with the cipher of the Queen, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
then painted from behind, so it seems to be in 3D, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
backed with mother of pearl and then sealed in gold. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
And original box, um, £1,500 maybe. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
-SHE GASPS -£1,750, I don't know. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
A watch, a gorgeous watch. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:29 | |
Actually plain, but sophisticated. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
Well, maybe £2,000. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
And then back here with more colour, in translucent green enamel and white enamel and pearls. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:42 | |
They're not only masterpieces of ciphers and monograms, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
but they're also thought out in colour, in texture and in 3D. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
-They are little sculptures in boxes, so £2,000 for that one. -Gosh! | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
So, heavens above, I don't know, what does it all add up to? | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
-I nearly didn't bother to come today. -Did you not? -Nearly stayed at home and decorated. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
I'm massively relieved that you put the paintbrush down! | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
-Thank you! -You completely made my day. This is absolutely marvellous. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
-I know you'll take great care of them, because you care about them, don't you? -Oh, yes, I do, very much. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:16 | |
In the past, when we've broadcast from great churches like this, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
people have told us they're uncomfortable about us | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
discussing the values of material things in such places. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
-Canon Tony Barnard, do you feel there's a conflict? -We always think carefully where we draw the line. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:35 | |
But, basically, the things that have been brought are beautiful treasures, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
beautiful artefacts, and the Church has a long tradition of sponsoring the arts. We still do it today. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:45 | |
More importantly, it's bringing hundreds of people into the cathedral | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
who probably wouldn't come here otherwise, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
and they can be touched by the beauty of the place that we're standing in, and hopefully by God. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:58 | |
It's been a wonderful day all round, then. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
-Thank you for that seal of approval, and for your hospitality. -We've enjoyed it very much. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
And from Lichfield Cathedral, until the next time, goodbye. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 |