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This week, the Antiques Roadshow is racing through Devon, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
our destination - the historic town of Tavistock on the edge of Dartmoor. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
Wonderful country and a breeding place for myth and legend. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
At nearly 1,000 square kilometres - make that 368 square miles - Dartmoor is the largest | 0:00:56 | 0:01:02 | |
and the wildest area of open country in the south of England. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
Distinctive granite tors, abandoned tin mines and Bronze Age settlements are scattered all over the place. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:13 | |
You can see how it would appeal to writers. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
Arthur Conan Doyle did his bit to immortalise Dartmoor | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
with his terrifying tale of The Hound Of The Baskervilles Versus Sherlock Holmes, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:24 | |
and HERE is the very swamp where the half-starved beast lay in wait for its victims. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:30 | |
The dog was around here somewhere, too. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
HOWLING | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
The great moor land was also said to be the lair of witches | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
who infested the granite tors, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
luring young men into the swamps and watching them sink to their deaths. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
Even now, when a mist descends, the imagination can run wild. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
Right, that's enough myth and legend, here's an ancient fact. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
There's gold in them there moors. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
Well, tin, actually. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
The miners who dug the stuff up needed somewhere to have their tin evaluated, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
and 700 years ago a royal charter to do just that was granted to a town by the name of... | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
Tavistock, and this is it. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
Tavistock already had a thriving weekly market which Henry I had agreed to back in 1105. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:35 | |
The first traders set up their stalls here in Market Street | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
exactly 900 years ago, and they're still doing it. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
An unknown poet has written, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
-IN A WEST COUNTRY ACCENT: -"I love to go to Tavistock on market day when people flock by train and bus | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
"and trap and car, from every village near and far they bring their butter, cream and cheese, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:57 | |
"their chickens and their ducks to please the many folk who find their way to Tavistock on market day." | 0:02:57 | 0:03:05 | |
The only chickens and ducks we see today will be made of porcelain, I think. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
The most recent market to open here is one for antiques. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
And in a comradely way, the traders of Tavistock's Pannier Market have offered up their pitches | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
to our experts for what we hope will be an historic roadshow. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
You know, some people love gnomes and some people loathe gnomes. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
-What are you? -I think they're hideous, but then that's only my personal opinion. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
They're my wife's, actually, and she likes them and her family like them so... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
-So descended to your wife, have they? -Yes, indeed, they belonged to her grandparents many years ago, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:52 | |
and they owned hotels down in Cornwall, in Weybridge, and they seem to remember these, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:58 | |
er...chappies were in the hotels and in the foyer, you know, welcoming people as they went in. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
They're welcoming creatures, aren't they? Lovely happy faces. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
Oh, they have, and you can tell they're Cornish. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
This chap's collecting money from people, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
and this chap's obviously taking the tourists' photographs. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
You'd better not go to Cornwall after this! | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Now, a lot of people think they're English creations, but of course they | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
don't come from England originally, they come from Germany. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
And these are German gnomes in terracotta, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
painted terracotta, um, somewhere in date about 1900, incredibly early. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:32 | |
They're about the earliest gnomes you're likely to come across. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
There are a few earlier ones, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
they became very popular in Europe and then came over to England | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
somewhere about the 1880s, 1890s, and I suppose they derive really | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
from, um, you know, the Ring of the Nibelung, you know, they're little miners and getting money and... | 0:04:47 | 0:04:53 | |
But the camera is fantastic, isn't it? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
A little box Brownie, yeah. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
An early box camera, yes, and in date quite right for about 1900, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
so they're both very, very early gnomes and as such are very collectable. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
They just stand around looking handsome, I suppose. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-So they're not Cornish piskies after all. -They're not, no! | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
But I think they're great, though you obviously don't like them. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
I'm only joking, really, we can give them house room. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Give them house room now, because they are reasonably valuable. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
I suppose a good pair like this, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
in very, very good condition, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
I suppose they're going to be at auction something like about £2,000. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
-Well, you do surprise me. -So look after them. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
-Will do. -And cheer them up. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
-Well, they'll keep smiling, don't worry. -Keep smiling! | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
This is probably the most uncomfortable suit of clothes | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
I think, I've ever seen. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
It's made of, er...sacking or canvas. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
-Yes. -With this incredibly coarse stitching. Where did you get it from? | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
Um, well, I actually work for a museum, local, Dartmoor Prison, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
and they obtained it last year. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
It was from Exeter Prison, it's either originated from Dartmoor or Exeter. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
They weren't sure themselves but other than that... | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
Well, certainly, as far as dating is concerned, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
the National Penitentiary Service, which was formed in 1850, I think, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
the prisoners of that service wore the broad arrow outfit, the uniform. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
-Right, yes. -And so we're certain... We know that it can't be before 1850. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
-Oh, right. -And I think the National Penitentiary Service was abolished in about 1920 or thereabouts, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
-so it wouldn't be after 1920. -No, no. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
So it has to be in that sort of actually fairly broad corridor. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
-Yes. -It's certainly a really uncomfortable uniform. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Can you imagine wearing this on a really cold icy winter's morning with probably no underwear? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
It must have been incredibly uncomfortable to use. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
What about the broad arrow? What do you know about that? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
We believe it meant that... | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
it's a government symbol, something like that. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Absolutely right, it was quite common at the time for guns and anything really belonging to the government | 0:07:02 | 0:07:09 | |
to be marked with this broad arrow, so I guess what they were saying here | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
that the prisoner was - for the time that he was in prison - property of the government. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
I can't imagine there are very many of these around in the country. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
It must be almost unique, I would think. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
-Yes. -But you've brought in something else... -Yes. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
-..That I find fascinating and actually quite gruesome at the same time. -It is really. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
-This is a real, genuine cat o' nine tails. -Yeah. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
And has this come from the same place? | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
It did, yes, we don't know any background to that at all, that's the thing. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
OK, well, um, it's a pretty gruesome object, and of course the origin, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
really, in common use came from the Navy in the 17th and 18th century. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:52 | |
And it brought about such common phrases, for example, as, "Don't let the cat out of the bag" | 0:07:52 | 0:07:58 | |
and, "Not enough room to swing a cat." | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-On board ship, of course, room was very, very tight. -Yeah. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
But this is extraordinary, because this has never, ever been used, thank goodness, I think I should say. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
It looks almost new. I mean, if you'd said to me this was made last year, I'd have believed you. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
But I think it has to have some age to it, it's a genuine... | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Oh, that's interesting, we've got a wax seal on the end | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
that says, "Prison Commission, Home Office". | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
-That's interesting. I think probably that means it's 20th century. -Right. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
And you've got to remember that corporal punishment, of course, continued until the...what? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:36 | |
1950s, even '60s, I think... | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
-I wasn't sure. -..With birching and beating with the cat o' nine tails, in prisons in particular. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
Now, what about value? Have you thought about that? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
-We haven't got a clue. -How do you put a value on something like this? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
We really haven't got a clue with these, no. We really don't know. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
It's very, very hard to put a value on objects such as these. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
There are collectors of police and prison memorabilia, of course. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
I guess that if something like this came up on the open market today, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
it's such a rare object, such an unusual object, that I think it could sell for | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
-several thousand pounds, probably two, maybe even £3,000, because it's so rare. -Yes, thank you. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
And as far as the cat o' nine tails is concerned, not quite that much, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
but it is a very collectable object... | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
-Thank you. -..I'm afraid to say, and my guess is, again if it came up | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
on the open market, that it would sell for £500-600. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
-Amazing. -Quite extraordinary. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
-Tell me about her. -Well, she was my mother's, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
and so I did see her from time to time. I mean, she was brought out. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
-Were you allowed to play with her? -I didn't, but I know my mother did. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
My mother was born in 1905, and she played with her a lot, I think. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
-Can I hold her? -Yes. -Um... | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
Now you said your mother was born in 1905. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
-Yes, she was. -So this doll actually was born a bit later, as it were, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
she was registered in 1909. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
-Oh, right. -In fact, she could have even been registered | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
in 1911, even a bit later than that, so your mother would have been what? | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
-Six or something. -Perhaps, could it have been... | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
I don't think she'd have been given a bisque doll, which is what it is - | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
-it's, unglazed porcelain... -Yes. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
..If she was really a baby, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
so if she was sort of six, it would have been perfect. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
-I see. -She's kept it very well, although the stringing's | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
a little bit loose, but that's what happens with a bit of elastic. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
It sort of starts going a bit loose, you know, like all of us when we get later on in life. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
Now, behind, I mean, I immediately knew what she was | 0:10:33 | 0:10:38 | |
because of the mould of her face, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
because of the charming little smiling mouth. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
-She's got a lovely, lovely expression. -She is a darling. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
And do you know what she's known as? | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
She's German, and they call her, "Mein Liebling", my darling. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
-Oh, really? -Yes, and behind...there is, underneath the wig, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:59 | |
"K*R...Simon & Halbig...117." | 0:10:59 | 0:11:05 | |
Now, the K*R is Kammer - or Kammer with an umlaut over the "a" - | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
and Reinhardt, together with Simon and Halbig. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Now, Kammer and Reinhardt designed it but made the body, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
and Simon and Halbig made the head according to the design, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
and 117 is what we call the hundred mould of Kammer and Reinhardt. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
-Yes. -Have you any idea of her value? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
None, no. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
-No? None whatsoever? -Not at all, no. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
So if I said she was worth 300, what would you think? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:38 | |
Well, she could be, I don't...I honestly don't know. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
Well, if you add a nought and say between £3,000 and £4,000, would that make you feel a bit better? | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
I am...I am astonished, and my mother would have been astonished, too. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
-She's a real little darling, isn't she? -Good gracious, yes. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
And I nearly didn't bring them! | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
The box says, "Clock". | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
Yes, there is a clock. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Yes, this is one of those relatively inexpensive American clocks that were made to simulate marble. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:12 | |
They were sent over to this country in quite large numbers to... | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
to combat, as it were, the influx of marble clocks from the Continent, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:20 | |
made for very much...let's say the cottage market. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
-So I can see the clock's dismantled, this must have been a restoration project. -Yes. -Who did it belong to? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
-My husband. -And he enjoyed mucking about with clocks? -Oh, yes. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
This is obviously the movement in here, I can see the bell poking out. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
But while I was glancing earlier, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
I can see a telltale sign of a problem that these, as I say, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
inexpensive clocks often have, and yes, look, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
there is further evidence of what I think I'm going to find. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
Oh, dear, yes, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:55 | |
-this has got the best example of this problem that I have ever seen. -Yes. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
-The only thing holding it together is the lacquer on the outside. -Yes. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
The woodworm have really gone to town. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
There's nothing you can do, and this clock really boils down to a set of spare parts. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:13 | |
Now come on, David, nationality. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
We've got to try and get this right. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
I've been looking at these things for 30 years, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
and I sway backwards between China and Japan, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
and I've never really formed a definite opinion. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
-Well, they're export, I presume? -Oh, yeah, and they're characteristically | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
Chinese in style, but that doesn't mean to say they can't be Japanese. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
-Cos the Japanese were copying the Chinese styles. -Yeah. -So let's go for it, then, what is it? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:43 | |
-Japanese. -Chinese. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
So you think Chinese? OK, well, we'll give it some more thought. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Yeah, OK. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
So what do you think this extraordinary object could possibly have been used for? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Well, it was sold to me as a warmer, but how it works or what... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
-A warmer? -Yes. -A warmer of what, do you...? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
-I'm not sure. -It is a food warmer, um... | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
and to understand the principle behind it, you have to... | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
we have to cast our minds back into the 18th century | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
and imagine how people lived, and you might imagine a rather dark, cold, inhospitable room | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
which might have been somebody's bedroom, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
and they might have decided they wanted a warm snack in the middle of the night. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
The kitchen was miles away, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
your staff had all gone to bed. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
How do you get your food warm? | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
-You might have a bit of soup, something like that, and that's what these were for. -Oh, right. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
Can you speculate how you warm food in that? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
It's difficult, isn't it? I guess a candle or something went in there. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
-There must be something missing out of the top here. -Absolutely right. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
I have seen... You say you haven't seen one before, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
I have seen one before illustrated in a book. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
And your piece is, in fact, missing... | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
a little bowl that rests in the centre here, and this was the lid that went on the top to keep it warm, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:08 | |
and to combine a knop or a handle with a little taper stick, so you would have had a little | 0:15:08 | 0:15:14 | |
taper in the top with a flame alight that you could have used to light the burner underneath. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:20 | |
It's English Delft, and it dates from about 1760-1770. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:27 | |
They were made in London. We think they were probably made in Lambeth. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
A very, very reassuring thing to see is, when we turn the piece over, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
we've got a numeral painted on the base, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
the same numeral there on the lid, so we know that these two pieces | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
have been together since 1760-70 when they were made. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
Um... But really a very, very rare object. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
The design is terribly interesting, too, these wonderful scroll handles | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
and human masks, human masks applied to either side. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:02 | |
And that typical symptom of Delft, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
it's an earthenware body covered in a white tin glaze, and the glaze chips | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
off very easily to give you these...little imperfections, I suppose you'd call them. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
On Delft, minor chipping isn't really an issue. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
What probably is more of an issue with this is the lack of the bowl. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
Can you tell me where you got it? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
I bought it from an antique show last summer, and I paid 700 for it. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:33 | |
-700, and they knew what it was? -They knew what it was, yeah. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
Yeah, well, I think you did tremendously well, because... | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
if we start at the top and say... | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
if you had the liner, the bowl, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
and if the cover wasn't in rather cracked condition, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
-I'd be saying 4,000 or 5,000 on this. -Really? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
It is extremely rare. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
I think without the bowl | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
you're still going to be 1,500, probably £2,000. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
-That's fantastic. -So that's what I call good investment, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
buying last year for £700, and doubling your money in 12 months. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
-Fantastic, thank you very much. -Good, wonderful. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
We were having a look at this earlier | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
and trying to decide whether it was Japanese or Chinese, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
and I've always kind of thought they were Japanese | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
because I've got a catalogue, a 1920s catalogue, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
by a company called Yamanaka, and they were a Japanese company which imported goods into Europe, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:35 | |
and these are illustrated in it. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
So I kind of, without really thinking about it, assumed they were Japanese, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
but...the more one looks at it, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
the more one suspects that actually it's not Japanese, it's Chinese. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:51 | |
It's red lacquer over carved wood. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
The dragon here is pursuing the Buddhistic pearl of wisdom | 0:17:54 | 0:18:01 | |
which it's managed to catch in here. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Actually, I see it's got my moustache on it, which is... | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
But the thing that clinched it for me as China, not Japan, is this panel. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:14 | |
I was in the Forbidden City in Peking earlier in the year, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
and there are panels almost identical to that | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
over some of the doorways, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
and I think this is definitely Chinese, not Japanese. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
I think the date is 1920s, um... | 0:18:32 | 0:18:38 | |
but the interesting thing is that the form | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
is rather like a George III English chair. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
-Yes. -Mahogany chair. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
-Do you sit in it? -Yes, now and then. -You do? -Yes. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
Well done, where did it come from? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
-Um, I bought it when I was 12 years old. -When you were 12?! | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
Yes, yeah, from a house clearance. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
Very precocious, if I might say so. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Well, I went there with my father, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
and he was doing something there, I don't know what he was doing exactly, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
but, um...I liked the look of it, and I bought it for £12. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
-Really? -Yes. -And when was that? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
That'd be 1939. I'm 78 now, so... | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
What on earth was a 12-year-old doing buying a chair? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
You could have bought a bicycle! | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
Ah, I already had a bicycle. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Very good! What attracted you to it? | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
-Well, I just liked the intricate carving on it. -Yes. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Have you bought more antiques since? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
-No, no. -How extraordinary! | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
A flash in the pan, well done, you. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
I remember these selling in salerooms in London in the 1970s for quite a lot of money, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:54 | |
and it's the sort of thing which moves in cycles, in and out of fashion. | 0:19:54 | 0:20:00 | |
But I have to be quite honest, the market at the moment is... | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
I mean, the market really is flat, not just for this, but for a whole raft of things, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:10 | |
and I think if you put this into an auction today, I suspect it would probably make in the region of | 0:20:10 | 0:20:17 | |
£400, £500, something like that, so it's not a bad investment. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
Not a bad investment, no. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
-Can I... Can I do something? -Yes. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
I want to sit in it. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:27 | |
-It's very comfortable, actually. -It's good, isn't it? -Yes, it is. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
-I can see why you bought it. Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
Everyone here at the Roadshow has personal items that they cherish, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
but there is one symbol of a momentous day in people's lives | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
that often gets thrown away or forgotten about, and that's the wedding dress, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
but not in Barbara Churchill's case. You've not only got your own dress, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
-but you've got how many others? 140? -That's right. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
Why do you collect wedding dresses? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
They...are worn on a very happy occasion | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
and then invariably put in a box. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
I thought, you know, it's a shame that such happiness is packed away. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
Even if marriages go wrong in the end, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
that day is a special day. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
So when did wedding dresses come in? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
White wedding dresses came in in the Victorian times when Queen Victoria | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
had a white dress, so everybody wanted to follow fashion, basically. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:32 | |
White, I suppose, symbolising purity. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Purity, that's right, and a green dress | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
had the sort of hint that maybe... | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
you know, there'd been a bit of frolicking in the grass, so they seemed to die out. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:49 | |
So there's a stigma attached to a coloured dress. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
Very often, very often. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
Well, you've got a selection of your huge mass of dresses. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
Are these as old as they appear, these pretty ones? | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
These are from the 1940s. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
This pink one here is not actually mine, but it's on permanent loan, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
because I show them occasionally for charity, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
and the lady who wore this dress had really gone to the shop to buy | 0:22:11 | 0:22:17 | |
some white fabric, but when she got there, she didn't have enough... | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
coupons, so she had to have pink. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
You mean white was more expensive than any other colour? | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
-Absolutely, absolutely. -This is very pretty, too. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
This one is a friend...was a friend of mine, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
and she was getting married six weeks after her mother had died, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
and so her father was a little bit perturbed about her wearing white, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:46 | |
so out of respect for Mum and Dad, she went and purchased a grey dress. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
Right, because a dress doesn't necessarily look... | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
or rather it can look older than it is because people choose different styles, don't they? | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
Absolutely, absolutely, yes. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
I mean, that looks terribly old there, and it probably is, is it? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
This one is from 1887, and they came very often in two pieces, rather than in the single piece. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:11 | |
-That's a two-piece? -That's a two-piece, yes, it is, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
and the belt covers up the join. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
Actually, when it was made, it had lace all around the collar | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
and all draping over the sleeve. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
This is a photograph of the lady. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
-Oh, that's the very dress. -That's the very dress. -There it is. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Good Lord, women have all the fun, don't they? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
Here he is, looking very staid, and she looks ravishing. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
And this is your own wedding dress. Is it as it was on the great day? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
No, nothing like it. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
-This dress has been worn about 20 odd times since I actually wore it on my wedding day. -By you? | 0:23:46 | 0:23:53 | |
No, once when I was 21 I had it cut off so I could | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
wear it without tripping over, and then after that it was reduced | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
again to be worn in many pantomimes by the fairy, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
and I think it's been in about 20 pantomimes since then. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
It's paid for itself, that's what I was looking for. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
-You've got the ultimate dust trap here, tell me. -I'm afraid I have! | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
I love it, but my wife hates it. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
I have to clean it. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
And how long have you had this? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Well, my mother bought this in Kingsbridge market in 1954 for £4. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:34 | |
She then took it on to Saltash and painted it white, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:39 | |
and she painted all the leaves green and all the flowers red and yellow and blue. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
She did a beautiful job of it. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Then years later... My mother incidentally died in 1999, aged 102, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
and years later the central heating took over, and the whole thing disintegrated. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:57 | |
I had some friends round for tea one night, Andrew Sharrick and his mother from Tedburn St Mary, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
and I told them about this, so he asked to see it, and he said, "Cor, I'd love to restore it!" | 0:25:02 | 0:25:10 | |
I said, "Andrew, help yourself," and what you see today | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
is the result of Andrew's handiwork. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
What a wonderful, wonderful story. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
I believe this is made out of solid ebony. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
-Right. -And it would have been one hand who would have made it and executed it. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
-It would have been made for the European market in Ceylon, it's Ceylonese. -Right, right. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:34 | |
It's quite crude, I mean it... the whole is beautifully executed, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
-but when you get into it, it's quite crude. -Right. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
If we look closely at the baskets, when we look at the detail there, it's not as sharp as it could be. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
-Right. -When we come down onto the base, you can see again, if you look | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
at the lion paw foot, instead of being a nice, big, generous paw, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
it's a little bit on the mean side. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
-Naive I think would be the word, would it? -Yes, naive or crude. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
So originally it was designed for holding a plant, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
an aspidistra or something like that. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Really, I suppose you want to know what it's worth in today's market. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Yeah, yeah, I would. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
-I would place a value in today's market at about £1,500. -Really? Oh. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:19 | |
It's not hugely valuable, but it's interesting. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
For four quid, that's not bad, is it? | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
Absolutely, she's done well, the girl did well. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
£1,500?! My gosh! | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
There, do you like it any better now, dear? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
Well, yeah. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
How did you get this here? | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
-With some very strong men. -How many very strong men? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Only two, very strong. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
I haven't lifted it up, but I'm intrigued to know two things. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
I want to open it as soon as possible, and I want to know if there's anything inside it. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
-Ah, mmm... -I mean, you obviously know what it is. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
-Yes. -Is it...? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
-It's locked. -It is locked. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
This will be bogus. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
Yes. How that ever fooled anybody, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
hopefully there's a keyhole in the top here. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
-Yes, would you like the key? -Ah! | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
-Can I open it? -You can try. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
I think that... | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Oh, have I got it right? I have. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
I'm really excited. Drop those off... | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
-How many turns? -Just the one. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Oh, look at that! | 0:27:26 | 0:27:27 | |
Isn't that fantastic? There's nothing in it! | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
-No. -That's wonderful, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
I think the condition of it is amazing. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
-It's called an armada chest. -Yes. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
I'm sure you know that, armada chest after the armada, 1588. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:45 | |
One would like to believe that perhaps. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
There's absolutely no reason, looking at this, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
with the exception perhaps here, one or two 20th-century nuts. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
-Have you put those on? -Not me, no. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
-I can't see anything about this that isn't original. -No. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
And it could well be 16th-century. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
-What is so amazing, our surname is Drake. -It isn't?! -Yes. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
-Are you a direct descendant? -Oh, no. -Perhaps this came from him! | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
If you're going to take provenance, it's going up in value considerably. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
-How did you get it? -My father bought it from a junk shop on the south coast somewhere, I think. -Really? | 0:28:19 | 0:28:26 | |
I've no idea, before I was born. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
-Right, and you've inherited it. -I've inherited it. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
I think it's tremendous. Do you think it's worth something? | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-How much did your father pay for it? -I have no idea, absolutely no idea. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
Is it worth anything? | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
Of course it's worth something, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
-because it's in such good condition, it is such a fantastic bit of history. -Yes. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
I would say it's worth round about £1,000. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
800-1,200 would be a sensible saleroom estimate. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
Now, here is a woman, obviously a high-ranking Naval officer, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
and she looks to me stern but somehow kind. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
-Did you know her? -She was my great aunt, and she was also my godmother. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
She was superintendent of the Wrens in Portsmouth during the war. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
Oh, I see, right. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
But that was only a part of quite a glorious career. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
She's mentioned in quite a number...a lot of literature, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
in Portsmouth, and then after the war, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
she became the director of the Land Army until 1950 when it was disbanded. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
-I see. -And so she was part of disbanding the Land Army. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
-Well, altogether an extremely capable woman, then. -Yes. -Extremely capable. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
Yes, and the antithesis of the great career was that she went back | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
to the west of Ireland, lived the rest of her life and started a raspberry farm | 0:29:46 | 0:29:52 | |
and was well known as quite a character with the locals in the west of Ireland. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
-I bet. -Yes. -Well, would you agree that she's stern but kind? | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
Cos I think this portraitist, whose name is Middleton Todd, Arthur Middleton Todd, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
is well known to an entire generation, a younger generation of artists whom he taught, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
and was involved in setting an example to. Apparently a very modest man himself. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
I often like to think of the chemistry between a sitter and an artist, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
and it seems to me that this stern but kind woman | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
rather got on with this artist, because she looks as though she's about to laugh, don't you think? | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
-Yes. -Now, anyway, I think it's a very successful painting, you know it's quite dirty, don't you? | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
-Perhaps you don't. -Yes, probably. -Well, it is quite dirty, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
and it would clean, and I think that she would come alive. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
I think she'd look great. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-Yes. -Even more characterful. Have you ever thought of value? | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Probably not, cos she's a family member. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
No, I'd like to give the whole collection with her medals, her CBE... | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
-You've got the medals, her medals here. -These are her medals, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:53 | |
her CBE, and I'd really rather they went to a museum in Portsmouth. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
-They should be returned to Portsmouth. -Whoever owns it needs to have some identity | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
with the sitter, otherwise it doesn't really, you know, have much relevance. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
-No, no. -And in that sense, in the open market, um... | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
a portrait of just somebody isn't really going to be worth that much. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
-No, no. -Unless it's a very beautiful girl or an extremely handsome or terribly important man, you know. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:20 | |
-Yes. -And so really in the open market you couldn't put more than... | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
-I don't know, er, £1,000 or £2,000 on this. -As much as that? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Well, as much as that perhaps, you know, but incalculable value to yourself, the family, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
-and perhaps to the Naval museum. -Yes, I think the Wrens perhaps. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
Anyway, it's a really interesting life and a good portrait of her, I think. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:42 | |
-Yes, thank you, thank you very much indeed. -Right. -Thank you. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
-How old are you? -I'm 13. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
-And what's a 13-year-old doing with a snuff box? -Well, um... | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
And medals and all sorts of objects? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
Well, I was the only grandchild interested in all this, and my grandad wanted to give it to me | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
because he didn't want to give it to anyone else because he thought I'd look after it. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
-And it's really maintaining the family history. -Yeah. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
-So you're the family historian. -Yeah. -Well, you've got to keep these very, very carefully. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
I'm quite interested in the engraving on the cover here. What's his name there? | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
-John Brockington. -John Brockington, is that your name? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
-Yeah, I'm Sam Brockington. -You're still Brockington, wonderful. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
But this is extraordinary, because we've got a skull and crossbones here, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
which is quite an unpleasant symbol, if you like, and here you've got the clasped hands of friendship, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:31 | |
so it makes me wonder why we've got the two opposing symbols, really, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
in juxtaposition, quite strange, but it's a wonderful object, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
and it's something that obviously he would have used every day. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
It's really...really history of your grandfather, your great-grandfather, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
-your great-great-grandfather. -Yeah. -And you need to start writing | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
it down, because it's great to be a family historian. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
-Long may you continue. -All right, thank you. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
A bulging bag, what have we got? | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
All kinds of rubbish in there, I'm afraid. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
Anything you like. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
-Right, there it is. -Oh, that's a good start. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
-What do you reckon? -Do you know what it is? | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
-It's a piece of Bow, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
-Yeah. -Is it an eggcup? It's jolly large for a hen's egg, isn't it? | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
-One wonders whether it's not actually a drinking cup. -Right, yeah. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
After a Chinese Blanc de Chine original, about 1755, 1760, so a nice and early one and rare but... | 0:33:15 | 0:33:23 | |
-Slightly damaged. -Where did it come from? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
Well, it came originally from a boot sale, a friend bought it, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
-and I bought it off him, because I liked it. -Are you a frequenter of boot sales? -'Fraid so, yeah. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
-Have you ever been to the market here? -Yes, many times. -Bought? -Oh, yes. It's always a good market here. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:39 | |
-What did that one cost you? -Well, I had to pay a few quid for it. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
He knew it was good, but we didn't quite know what it was. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
I think probably in that state about £30-40. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
Yeah, that's good, that's fine, that's good. Well, it's not worth a lot. Right, er... | 0:33:47 | 0:33:52 | |
A piece of... A piece of glass. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
Do you know what that is? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
I've got a vague idea. It's an oil lamp, isn't it? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
It's a lace-maker's lamp. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
Lace-maker's. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
It should be...mid-18th century. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
Oh, right. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
-What do you think? -You know that wonderful review of... | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
in a newspaper of a play called I Am A Camera? | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
Somebody wrote a review of this play, which said, "Me no Leica," | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
which I think is rather wonderful. And it applies to this object. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
I don't trust that an inch. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
-That is a reproduction worth very little money. -Good heavens. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
-There you go. -Bad one, I'm afraid. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
Win a few, lose a few. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:43 | |
Oh. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
-Oh. -You like that one? | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
-Do you like it? -I like it, yeah. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
That's really very nice and rare, with this pie-crust rim. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
-This is a piece of English Delft, probably Bristol. -Right. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
I'm not good on the English Delft factories, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
and I have this slight fear that most other people aren't either. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
-We seem to change our opinion of where a piece of Delft was made every other week. -Oh, right. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
Somebody digs up a shard in Wincanton, and they find | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
another one in Liverpool, and is it halfway between? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
That's sort of 1760. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
A rare thing. How much was this? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
-I didn't pay very much for it, I bought it at a boot sale again. -How much is not very much? | 0:35:33 | 0:35:39 | |
£1. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
Will you take two? | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
No, no, no, I'll be more clever than that. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
Well, you'd be mad to. I think we're pushing the upper hundreds here. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
-Really?! -Yeah, I think 600, 800, no problem at all. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
-Oh, right. Oh, big money, then? -You did well there. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
Right, so this telegram reads, "Thank you all so much for the lovely carnations | 0:35:59 | 0:36:05 | |
"and for your thoughts of us both, Winston and Clementine Churchill." | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
And then you have a note which says, "With all good wishes, Winston S Churchill." | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
And then you have a pennant. What's the story? | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
-Well, my grandpa was Churchill's bodyguard from 1950 to 1965. -Really? | 0:36:18 | 0:36:24 | |
And as far as I know, they were given to him when Churchill died. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
-It must've been a very interesting job, did he tell you stories... No, he wouldn't have. -Not particularly, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
but the impression I got was he spent a lot of time painting, oils of Churchill obviously, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
-and travelling to the South of France. -Have you got any of the paintings? | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
-Unfortunately not, I think they're worth quite a lot of money nowadays. -They're worth an incredible amount. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
-Now, there's good news here and there's bad news here. -OK. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
-Right, what do you want first? -Er, whichever, I have to have them both sometime. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
Brave lad, brave lad, right, here we go. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
This note here is a facsimile. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
-It's not a real note. -Oh, really? | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
Yes, so instead of being worth loads if Churchill had actually signed it, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
it's worth virtually nothing, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
but it's a curio and it goes with the rest of the stuff. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
There's little enough value in the telegram. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
But the pennant I think is fantastic, and it's a wonderful relic | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
-and with the provenance that your family can give it... -Yes. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
..I'm going to say £1,000. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Oh, really? That's fantastic. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
Thanks. Any more in the bag? | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
Ooh! | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
Where did this come from? | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
Same sort of place, I'm afraid, boot sale. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
What do you do as a job? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
Building is my job, is what I do, but... | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
-Really? -..But at the weekends I go to boot sales. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
You have an amazing eye, you know. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
-No, you do! -Really? | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
Yeah, you do, I mean OK, you get it wrong occasionally. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
-Oh, yeah, I did there, didn't I? -But that doesn't matter. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
I mean, basically you're honing in on the real thing, um... | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
And of course you're going to make mistakes, we all make mistakes, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
but this is a really very nice South Staffordshire box. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:16 | |
There's a transfer print under here and then hand colouring on top. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Date - about 1770, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
and I tell you the extraordinary thing about this one | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
is that it's in perfect condition. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
These enamel boxes... | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
This is a layer of enamel on copper. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
-Right. -And they're always bust, they're always chipped or cracked, and this one isn't. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
Yeah. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
Go on, how much? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
Er, that one, I think I paid 50 pence for that one. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:48 | |
Sorry about this. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:49 | |
What's the housing market like down here? | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
I think you wouldn't have any trouble getting... | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
..700. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
How much?! | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
-You wouldn't have any trouble getting £700 for that. -Good grief! | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
-That shocks me. -Give up the building. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:11 | |
That shocks me, I'm probably better at this by the sound of it. I'm amazed, so how old is it? | 0:39:11 | 0:39:17 | |
1760-1770. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
-Good grief. -Any more? | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
So you were at D-Day, and this was with you, was it, as a mascot or what? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
No, no, no, I didn't even know I was going to have to sound this horn at all. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:32 | |
I was with the Army Commandos, and we came in | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
on the beaches near to Quistreham, and there was a bit of | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
a thing went on about whether or not the radio sets we had would work well in a built-up area. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:48 | |
They were perfectly all right for open country, and so I understand that | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
the French commander, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
Commandant Philippe Keifer, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
produced a horn and, er...and said, "Well, look, find somebody to sound this." | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
And the adjutant came and pointed at me and said, "You can sound a hunting horn, you sound it." | 0:40:04 | 0:40:11 | |
And when I tried it, I found that it was a little | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
different from a straightforward English hunting horn. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
You've got to give it a little more puff with this. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
And when we...when we finally came and bashed our way through and came to the German gun battery, we were | 0:40:21 | 0:40:27 | |
ready to go, I found the radios were working quite well, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
so I thought, "Well, I won't have to sound it." | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
And what happened? | 0:40:35 | 0:40:36 | |
Well, my commanding officer, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
Colonel Dawson, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
he said "OK, sound the bloody thing just for the hell of it!" And... | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
And so I sounded the tally-ho twice, just for the hell of it. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:51 | |
Well, just for the hell of it, could I ask you to give us a blast now? | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
Well, I can't reach the high notes, I don't think I can make the tally-ho, but, um...I'll have a go. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:03 | |
-Any more? -Er... | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
Yeah, a nice old dish. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
Well, it would have been nice to go out on something good, wouldn't it? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
Oh. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
-We did. -Oh! | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
Oh, right. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
That's a corker, isn't it? | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
You like it? | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
And this was local again? | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
I bought it in here, in this building. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
-They have things at the weekend and... -How long ago? | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Oh, that was a few years ago, about six years ago, I think. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
That's not very long, is it? | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
-No, no, but... -And how much? | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
It was on a stall with a pile of junk, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
and I gave the guy £35 for it. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:55 | |
It makes me weep. I think it's a lovely, lovely dish. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
-Right. -Wonderful bird in the middle here. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
-Right. -Um... Stylised flowers round here, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
terrific palette. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
Again, I think probably Bristol. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
A few nibbles round the rim. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:15 | |
-Yeah. -An odd, curious firing thing here, which is not a problem. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:22 | |
-Not? I thought it was damaged. -Yes, I did too, but it isn't, no. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
-The back stop. -Little crosses and ticks on the back, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
exactly what you expect, beautiful clean back there to it. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
Yes. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
Well, your 30 quid has turned into £1,000. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
1,000?! | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
Good grief! Really? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
-I'd no idea! -Give up the day job. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Thank you very much indeed, that's absolutely fantastic. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
-You've made my day in Tavistock, I have to say. -Good. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
It's a fantastic group of things, you've got a great eye. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
-You're very kind, thanks very much indeed. -Thank you very much indeed. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
Well, time's up, we've had a couple of cases of deja vu today, some of the items that were brought in were | 0:43:00 | 0:43:06 | |
purchased here at the Pannier Market originally, so in a way they've come home, and now we're going home, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:12 | |
but we're coming back, so until Tavistock 2, from Devon, goodbye. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:18 |