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Our venue this week has been looming over this spot for a very long time. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
It was founded, to be precise, on Christmas Day, 1067. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:42 | |
At a Christmas court at Gloucester, the year after the Battle of Hastings, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:52 | |
King William I held a prizegiving to thank | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
his most loyal supporters for their help with the conquest of Britain. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
The King's cousin Roger de Montgomery had provided 60 ships, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
so William sliced him off one third of the County of Sussex together with the title of Earl. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:16 | |
There were strings attached to this gift. The new earl had to build | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
a castle to protect this part of Sussex from foreign invaders. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
William, having been one himself, knew what the dangers were. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
A year later, in 1068, cousin Roger assigned a large contingent | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
of feudal slaves to start work on building this huge mound of earth... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:42 | |
the foundation for a motte-and-bailey castle. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
900 years later, the castle's promise to keep out invaders was tested when the Royal Observer Corps | 0:01:47 | 0:01:53 | |
had a look-out post up here, scanning the valley and the south coast during World War II. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
By that time, Arundel Castle had been completely transformed. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
The awesome building we see today is down to Henry, 15th Duke of Norfolk, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
whose restoration project in Victorian times turned Arundel | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
into the largest inhabited Gothic Revival house in England. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
In the premier league of lived-in castles, only Windsor is bigger. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
Arundel's interior is predictably sumptuous. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
Today Arundel Castle is letting the invaders in, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
but it's all in a good cause. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
We're holding our Roadshow in the Baron's Hall. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
133 feet long and 50 feet high, it's the largest room in the castle - | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
a bit like home, really. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Well, it's nice to come to a location like this and see something | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
that's even older than the castle. Where did it come from? | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
Well, we'd just moved to Wimbledon, 1968, the garden was a bit of a mess, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
-so I decided to do a bit of digging to plant some bulbs. -Oh. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
And I came across this clod of earth that just | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
didn't seem to want to break up... | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
I didn't hit it with my spade. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
I put it in a bucket of water and forgot about it, and then later, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
went back and realised that it wasn't a clod of earth. It was this. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
-So how old was the house that you were living in? -Well, it was a Victorian house, so, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
-I don't know, that's about 1800s, I think. -She goes...dates back far older to the Roman Empire. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:42 | |
-She was made in marble in the 1st or 2nd century. -Really? | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
So we're looking at a very old lady indeed. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Gosh, how exciting. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
There remains part of the carving here of the ringlets of her hair | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
and, rather interestingly, she's pierced for little earrings | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
which is really an unusual feature on a Roman head of this kind. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
So what was it doing in the garden in Wimbledon? | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Well, the only bit of information I got was from a local historian, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
who thought that a foreign traveller had brought it back and maybe left it | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
in the garden and then during the wars it had fallen into the flower bed and got covered up. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
Well, some of these pieces | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
were brought to Britain by Romans, but most came in exactly that way. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
It's actually quite appropriate to see this here, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
because the 14th Earl of Arundel, known as "the Collector Earl", | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
was indeed a great collector of Roman and Greek statues. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
He formed a marvellous collection which are now the basis of, I think, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
of the Ashmolean Museum collection, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
so collecting has been a popular thing and so I guess this was brought back, maybe 300 years ago, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:47 | |
by someone collecting it. What a thing to lose! | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Amazing to think they'd forgotten about it and it's just laid in the flower beds for all those years. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:55 | |
The condition is pretty good. It's had a bit of damage, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
the nose was knocked off and that certainly happened in antiquity, a long time ago. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
But the good thing is it's been left as it is. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Quite often, when the grand tourists brought these back in the 17th century, they recarved them, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
they added a new nose and restored her face, and that would have spoiled it. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
Instead she's here in her original state as she would have been 1,900, 2,000 years ago. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:21 | |
A piece like this would probably sell today for | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
£4,000 or £5,000. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
Good gracious me! | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Well, I'm rather glad I did that bit of gardening then. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
Well, a lucky find indeed and really great to see her still here now. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
Thank you very much indeed. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
This is a delicious cabinet of curiosities. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
When you look at it, what memories does it stir in you? | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
Oh, from way, way back. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
We came back from South Africa after the war, my parents had split up | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
and my mother was terribly ill all the way over, and it was pretty grim. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
South Africa hadn't been touched by the war, England of course was post-war. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
It was a fearful shock to an eight year old. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
My grandmother had this cabinet, and we used to go round for tea | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
on a Sunday afternoon, and it was the first time I really began to think, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
"Well, maybe this country's got something anyway", when she allowed me to open the post box. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
-The post box. -You know... -Is this the post box? -Yes, that's it. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
-OK, so here you are. -You take the lid off... I can still remember. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-So off comes the lid, oh, and there's something inside. -Yes. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
Not something, there's somebody inside... It's the postman! | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
-Isn't he gorgeous? -Isn't that wonderful? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
-That's fantastic. -And that was my special treat. After that, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
every time I went round, we were allowed to look at the cabinet. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
In those days it was look, not touch, and now I have six grandchildren, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
and they know that they can touch, but under supervision. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
Very good. Now I'm going to pick one of these up. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-Now that's my step-grandmother. -This is a little fox, isn't it? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-Yes, I believe it's bronze. -Do you know where it came from? | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
No, I don't know those, and there's a monkey beside it. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
There's a little group of bronzes here, we've got the monkey, we've got a little pug dog and two cats. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:22 | |
-Yes. -And they are almost certainly from Vienna, Viennese bronzes. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
-And what is... This looks like a little scarab beetle. -Yes. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
-Is there a surprise inside? -Er, it's not, it's not, open it up... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
it's Moses in his basket. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
No! | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
There's Moses. Now we once dropped Moses | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
on a patterned carpet, so Moses now is only ever allowed to be exposed. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:46 | |
On a plain surface. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-On a plain surface. -How long did it take Moses to be rediscovered? | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
Well, with great difficulty, because everybody had to stand still. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
Like finding a contact lens. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
-Yes, exactly. -That's wonderful. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
Well, let's just run through this, so going down onto the next shelf, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
I can see you've got some of Upton's figures, the peg doll. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
-Pig-wig and the wig. -Yes, and were those favourites of Grandma's? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
Granny used to read us the book, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
and she had these figures - I just like them. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Yes, because they're beautifully done, again they're little bronzes | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
and they will almost certainly again be from Vienna. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
And then you've got a little series of books. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
-There's a photograph album. -Oh, is there? | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
I believe these are all family, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
but I don't know exactly who. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
No doubt forebears of the Granny who actually collected. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
Yes, yes, yes, yeah. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Well, I think it's fascinating. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
I think what I'd like to do is just go into a corner with you and it, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
and spend the rest of the day exploring all its possibilities - I think it's wonderful. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
I'd be happy... Yes, I love it. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:52 | |
The value is going to be obviously very mixed with these things. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
Some little pieces are going to be worth | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
just a pound or two, and others are going to be much more valuable. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
Some of those are going to be £75 or £100... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
that's the sort of price you'd have | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-to pay in a shop if you wanted to replace them. -To go and buy them. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
So, if you went through and added every single thing up, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
you'd actually find that it's not just a cabinet of curiosities | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
but it's actually a little treasure chest, and I'm very pleased | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
that you wanted to share it with us, it's been a real treat. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-Well, thank you, thank you very much, I've really enjoyed going through it with you. -Good. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
An exquisite little watercolour on the front by Martineau | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
and on the back a letter from Edward VII when Prince of Wales. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
-Yes. -There's more to this, isn't there? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
Well, the picture belonged to my uncle and his grandmother was given | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
this picture as a New Year's present for January 1901, and amazingly, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:50 | |
later that year, he bestowed upon her the use, for her life, of White Lodge | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
in Richmond Park which was a Royal Hunting Lodge and nobody to this day | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
knows why she had this honour, but she lived there eight years. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
-So the king to be... -Yes. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
..has given her this little present, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
bestowed this house upon her and we don't know why he did it. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
No, it's a mystery to this day. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
But we can probably guess, can't we? | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
Because didn't have quite a prodigious appetite for mistresses? | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
Well, she was a widow and she was 66 at the time, so I don't know whether she came into that category. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
Oh, well, that's of course a possibility, but how about when he was younger? | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
I think she was a long-term friend actually, of the family, apparently | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
of irresistible charm, and she had to entertain him when he came to White Lodge with a vast entourage | 0:10:32 | 0:10:38 | |
of friends and servants and so on, and it cost a lot of money, I think, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
but she lived there for eight years in great style. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
And then, as you probably know, it's now the home of the Royal Ballet School, the junior section, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
and they've been there since 1956, so I've got that picture. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
So a wonderful house and an exquisite little picture, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
-worth, I suspect, £700 or £800. -Oh, thank you. Well, I won't sell it. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
It's going to a very special home where it will be much treasured. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
-And I suspect there's a story here we need to know more about. -I think so. Thank you so much. -Pleasure. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:09 | |
And last, but not least, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
we've got this character. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:15 | |
That's right. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
Now, looking at that profile | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
and looking at your profile, there is a similarity there... | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
-Yes? -I think there should be, yes. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
-Well, tell me why. -Well, I did a biography of William K Harper | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
who was a modeller for Royal Doulton. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
-Yes. -And afterwards, he said to me, "have you got any suggestions for | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
"figures that Royal Doulton could manufacture?" | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
and I suggested a busker figure or a one-man band, and so he said, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
"Well, if you'd like to give me one or two of your photographs, I'll make his face look like you." | 0:11:45 | 0:11:52 | |
-And so... -So there you are. -That's exactly what happened. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
-That's immortality for you, isn't it? -Well, it is rather, isn't it? | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
-Yes. -And you've got some information regarding all that, have you? -Yes. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
What have you here? Just show me what we've got, what's this? | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Well, that's... when I suggested making that figure, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
he was sitting in the hotel with me. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
-Yes. -And while we were talking he literally sketched that little figure | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
as to what it might look like. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
-Really? -And it's amazing actually, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
the similarity between his first undertaking and the final figure. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
Amazing, absolutely amazing. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
I mean I've not seen that figure turn up on the market, is it a one-off? | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
No, it may have been rather expensive to produce. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
-Yes. -They did it as a pilot figure. -Yeah. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
-And fully painted it and everything, but then decided not to put it into production. -Well, that makes it | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
-that little bit special, doesn't it? -I think it's the only one, I think. -You know, as a professional value | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
-I'll say a few hundred quid, how about that? -OK. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
-Well, let's go back in time. -Yes. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
Because I love early Doulton, especially the early stuff | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
that was made down at Lambeth, and I love that little mug. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
It must have been made for a child. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
I think it was made for a child, and I understand it's by Hannah Barlow. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
You're right. I mean the decoration itself is sort of incised, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
-the technical term is sgraffito. -Right. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
But it's a technique that goes back to sort of pre-history really, where | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
you incise the clay while it's still leather hard and you actually, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
you're able then to sort of paint in a pigment, which sort of raises | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
-the relief and gives high definition. -Oh, yes. -There's a signature underneath. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
-Right. -This is quite early - this is the early 1880s. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
A little pot like that, it's going to have probably | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
around a £300, maybe a £350 price tag on it. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-Oh, right, OK. -Let's get topical, let's get local, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
because I love this little mouse group, and it's inscribed, isn't it? | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
It says "Cockneys at Brighton". | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
-Exactly. -Only down the road, isn't it? -That's right, yes, it is. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
-Only down the road. -There's a bit of humour there somewhere, isn't there? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
-There's a lot of humour in there and it is by the great man. -Absolutely. -The great man... You know who it is. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
-Well, it's George Tinworth. -It is George Tinworth. -Who was a wonderful sculptor. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
He excels at these little groups. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
-Oh, yes. -If it ain't mice, it's frogs. -Exactly, yes. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Here they are having a jolly time, somewhere off one of the piers. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
I love this at the other side, look at that. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
-Oh, yeah. -I love that little fish. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
-Yeah. -I say "the fish", it looks like the Loch Ness monster from here, doesn't it? -Well, it does, yes, yes. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
One thing I like is the little fellow there being sick over the side. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
He does look queasy, doesn't he? | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
-He does a bit. -Yes, bless him. -Absolutely true. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
So date-wise, well, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
-again I think we're in the sort of 1880s, late 1880s. -Oh, right. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
Maybe 1890. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
A few weeks ago I saw a very similar group sell for close on £5,000. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:44 | |
My goodness, as much as that? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Price of Cockneys for you, you see. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Well, well, they're well worth collecting then, aren't they? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
Well, that's a treasure in every sense of the word, isn't it? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Yes, it is indeed. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
When I heard there was a warming cupboard here, I thought | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
it might be some kind of punishment, you know like "If you do that again, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
"you'll go in the warming cupboard". | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
-But it's not, is it? -No, it's not. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
It's a functional warming cupboard. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
You pick it up and take it and put it in front of the fire | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
to warm your plate, warm your food, whatever else you want to warm. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-So it had no back on it? -No, no back, this cloth wouldn't be there, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
um, it would just be an open back so that when it was taken | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
and put near the fire, it would warm the contents. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
So it's in the right place now, we've got this massive fireplace | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
in the Baron's Hall, this is its natural home. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Yes, it is, yes. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
It's a kind of early hostess trolley, isn't it? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
I suppose you could say that, yes. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
-How does it operate? -Well, inside here we have it all lined with tin. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
-To keep the heat in. -To keep the heat in. -Gosh. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
It's been in my family, well ever since I can remember, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
where it came from I've no idea | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
but my parents never used it to warm anything when I was a child. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
-I've never seen one like it, have you? -No, never. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
Well, you saw it first on the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
Yes, that's right. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
Are these things that have come down to you or have you bought them? | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
No, no, these, we go round the country, you know, we like driving | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
and we call in obscure boot sales, not the big ones. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
-Oh, yes, yes. -You know, we pass a field and there might be half a dozen, so these were picked up at... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:27 | |
-At boot sales. -Yeah, various ones. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
May I ask what you paid for them? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
Um, that one I think I paid £5, and that one, I think, £10. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:37 | |
I looked up the two jars on the internet, it said "bellamine" | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
but I don't know. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Well, a bellamine is a stoneware jug which is characterised | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
by having this face | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
of a bearded man, named after Count Bellamine. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
Basically they're German, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
they came over to England in quite large quantities with wine in them, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:05 | |
and they were also used on the table for wine. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
These are actually called tigerware, but they're more like a leopard, but anyway... | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
see that appearance there? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
-Yes. -It's been painted. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
-I see. -The handle's been off, the spout's been off, it's been broken into several pieces. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
-That is restoration. -Right, yes. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
Um, this is an early jug dating from the 17th century, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:33 | |
-but it's been restored. -Right. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
This one...is brand new. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Brand new, as opposed to new. Right. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
We won't quibble, it's new. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
-It's new, right. -It's kind of gone | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
"urgh" and this is too small in proportion to that, and this | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
doesn't meet up at the right place and it's too big, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
these are very badly formed, the colour's not quite right, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
they're all little things, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
but enough for one to fault it. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
-What about that? -That was a boot sale again, and my wife | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
keeps her trinkets, bits and odds and ends of jewellery in it, so... | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
-Saw the date there, 1636? -Saw the date, that's why I bought it, yes. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Yeah, well that would be very nice if that object were 1636. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
It's not? | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
It's brand new. Let's not quibble, it's new. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
It's new. I'm not very lucky, am I? | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-What about the horse? -Um, she wanted | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
£50 for it and I said no and we quibbled and I got it for £30, so... | 0:18:39 | 0:18:45 | |
I bought it because it's a lovely object so, you know... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
It is, I'm afraid also... | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
New. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
It's pretending to be a Han or T'ang horse from about | 0:18:54 | 0:19:00 | |
the 5th to the 10th century AD, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
in China, and the record price | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
for one is, I think, £3m. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
Right, so it is new! | 0:19:09 | 0:19:10 | |
It's a slightly better one than this one, I have to say, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
but of that ilk. The Chinese started to make them again | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
about 30 years ago. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
That is not the real thing. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
-No. -But you know, I would be happy to pay £30 | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
for that, I think that's a good buy. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
-It is, as you say, a very decorative object. -Yes. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
And I'm very happy with you pulling into a field and buying these | 0:19:31 | 0:19:37 | |
-sort of things, as long as you don't pay too much money for them. -Well, no, this is... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
-I wouldn't pay because I wouldn't know what I was buying. -Very good, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
-enjoy, thank you. -Thank you. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
My father took that in 1931 and he meticulously dated it on the back. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
Those were all my soft toys at the time so I was a very lucky. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
-All of them? How many are there? -All of them. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
I don't know but we've still got 35 of them out of that picture. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
Really? Now... | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
so how did it all begin? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Well, it was, you know, I collected those as a child and then, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:11 | |
in June 1939, our father went back in the army | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
and everything was put in store and forgotten for 40 years, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
and were discovered again in the late 1970s with the picture with them. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
Really? Oh, what a wonderful surprise it must have been, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
and you collected the same thing or...? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Well, some of those were mine, the monkey was mine and one or two | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
of them were, but she was the one that loved the little animals. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
Which is your favourite? Because they all look such characters. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Well, I think they're all... | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
I mean, when I was little, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Flip and this one here, Lop, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
used to be with me constantly. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
-That dog there, we wonder what make he is. -That is a difficult one. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
-Yes. -Because he, with these extraordinary eyes, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
looks very much like the Chloe Preston for Farnell toys - | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
Chloe Preston being the designer. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
-Yes. -For me, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
these two, they're known as Bosco... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
and Honey, and they were a comic strip for Warner Brothers, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
and they started off being, well, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
it was designed by someone called Hugh Harman in the States. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
His, being Bosco, was a black ink blob, he then became | 0:21:21 | 0:21:27 | |
an animated child, but Bosco had a girlfriend, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
and that was Honey, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
and so this was called Looney Film Productions and you can | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
-imagine why, because they do look a bit looney, don't they? -Yes. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
-I think always one of my favourites is Dismal Desmond. -Yes. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
He was dismal because his owner... | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
who was called Daisy Doo Dah, died. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
And so your doll is this one? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
-Yes, this is my doll, and this doll... -Tell me about this one. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Well, this is my Kathe Kruse doll. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
-Yes. -When I was three years old, I was bridesmaid at my aunt's wedding | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
and he was my bridesmaid present. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
This is his original pinny. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
-Yes. -I'm afraid he lost his original rompers, and his original rompers | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
were bright red and so I called him Reggie. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
-Very original. -I love it. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
He is a serious doll, a cloth-headed doll, and beautifully painted eyes. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:27 | |
-Even with the damage, I'd say around £1,000. -That's what I thought. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
-Lovely. -Oh, you did? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
-But I couldn't bring myself to sell him after all these years. -Oh, no, that would be sacrilege! | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
-But going back to your collection. -Yes. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
-I mean I have to say that these are the two rarest. -Yes. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
And on a good day, I would think that they are almost as much. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
-Really? -As the Kathe Kruse. -Oh, how wonderful. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
-Ooh, yes. -I mean, they are incredibly in demand, when you can find them, and the others... | 0:22:52 | 0:22:59 | |
Bonzo... You have Bonzo collectors, and Bonzo collectors | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
will pay probably somewhere around £300 to £400 for him. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
-Right. -Dismal Desmond, possibly about the same. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
Schuco teddy and, well, the teddy's worth more than the monkey. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
They are probably £200 to £300 each. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
-Oh, gosh. -So if you've got, if this is just part of your collection. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
-Yes, it is, I mean. -36 of them, I dread to think how much they're all worth. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
36 from there, yes. Well, that's wonderful to know. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
-And how lovely, I'm so glad you came in with them. -And thank you so much. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
-Thank you so much. -Made my day. -Made ours, thank you very much. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
-I have a feeling you're not about to offer me a cigar so what's hidden inside the box? -Well, I hope | 0:23:40 | 0:23:46 | |
it's going to be a big a surprise to you, as it was to me, the first time I opened it. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
-Wow, it's a tiny little dinner service. -It is. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
It's so beautifully packed, I'm wondering if I can... | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
-Well, that is the trouble you see. -take them out. -Yes, when I moved | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
to Worthing, we wanted somewhere to park my car and my husband found | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
this old house with five parking lots and he knocked and said, could we... | 0:24:04 | 0:24:09 | |
-"Could I park the car?" -That's right, and then over the years, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
we became friends. She was an elderly lady when I first met her, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
and then she started losing her sight, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
and so I started typing her business letters and taking her to the hospital, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
but she had bees, and she used to pay me with jars of honey, which was great. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
-Lovely. -But then she said she would like me to have one of her antiques. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
Well, I can see why you were delighted, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
because what could be more charming than a little doll's dinner service? | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
It fits into this box and the box is contemporary with it, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
this is a set of around 1800 - 1810. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
I could imagine some very proud young lady of the mid, um, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
Regency period would have been delighted with it. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
-It's very like a pattern by Spode called the Cameronian series. -Right. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
But there's something about it which I don't think is by Spode. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
-No. -If we look at the quality of the print, Spode were so well known | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
for their blue and white printing, and if you look round here, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
it's a bit out of line and there's a bit of a line and a smudge here, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
so it's not by Spode, but that doesn't really matter. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
The pattern is lovely, the object is lovely and any collector of things | 0:25:22 | 0:25:28 | |
to do with childhood or blue and white would be delighted to have it. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
-Yes. -And they would be very happy to pay anything between £1,500 and £2,000 for it. -Really? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:36 | |
Absolutely really, yes, honestly. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Gosh. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
So here we have a first edition, The Diamond Smugglers | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
by Ian Fleming, author of Diamonds are Forever, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
and From Russia with Love, etc, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
and turn to the front free endpaper, and there's a fabulous inscription, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
it says - "to Una who worked like a slave, from Ian Fleming, 1957". | 0:25:57 | 0:26:03 | |
Now who is Una? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
-That's me. -That's you? -Yes. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
-And "who worked like a slave" for him? -Well, I worked for him as a secretary. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:12 | |
What was his job at the time? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
-He was foreign manager of the Sunday Times at the time. -Yes. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
But he also, you know, it was agreed, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
that I could type his books and personal things as well. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
So you had to do that on top? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
But I tried to make a point | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
of not reading ahead of the typing, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
otherwise it got boring, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
but I typed quicker if I waited. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
And here's another one. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
Doctor No by Ian Fleming again. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
-Yes. -"To Una with apologies for her sudden death..." | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
-So what is that all about? -Well, right at the beginning, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
he did call the victim Mary Trueblood. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
-Right. -And so it was named after me. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
Right, but to have a sudden death right at the beginning... | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
-Yes, shot at the beginning. -She was shot at the beginning? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
-Dear, oh, dear. -Bit much! | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
And here's another one, this is Goldfinger this time. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
-Yes. -Ian Fleming and again another wonderful inscription - "To Una, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
"who again wrote the whole thing, from Ian Fleming". That's brilliant... | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
-Just a way of saying thank you. -And they've all got their original dust wrappers on, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:30 | |
which is most important in the first edition market for them all | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
-to have their original dust wrappers, and you have ten signed copies. -Yes. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
Ten signed copies, which is quite, quite incredible. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
I don't think I've seen such an assemblage of signed Flemings. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
-No. -Well, ten signed Ian Flemings, I reckon, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
must be somewhere in the region... | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
..of... | 0:27:57 | 0:27:58 | |
You're waiting for it, yes, I know, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
well, I reckon that something like £6,000 a copy. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
Ooh, 6,000 each? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
Yes. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Oh. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
Now you be careful as you go home! | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
This came into our... | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
possession about 40 odd years ago and we've got three questions for it. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
Age, origin and manufacture. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
Right, OK, age... Any ideas at all? | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
Well, when it was restored, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
the restorer said they were all hand-cut veneers, so that would put it back | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
-before machine veneers somewhere but we've no, no real idea. -Well, that... | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
hand-cut veneers takes us between 1650 and about, let's say 1900 so... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:56 | |
but the decoration is about 1830-40, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
possibly as late as 1850, but no later than that. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
-Yeah. -What was the next one? Origin. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
-Origin. -It's totally English. The next question is the one | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
I can't answer, manufacturer, if you mean who made it? | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
-Mm. -I don't think we'll ever know. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:13 | |
It's clearly not a top-grade cabinet maker, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
it's more like it's a box maker - you know what this reminds me of? | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
-No. -Is the Tunbridge Wells work, in Tunbridge. -Right. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
-They made little boxes of parquetry. -Oh, right, yes. -The geometric shapes were put together for boxes, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
often cube parquetry, often with tiny little micro-mosaic scenes. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
And I think this is one stage further, about the 1840s or '50s. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
You talk about veneers - this is called rosewood, it's Brazilian rosewood from South America. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
-Yes, yeah. -This is maple, which could be American at this date, could be English maple. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:46 | |
-That's amboyna. -Amboyna? Never heard... | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
-Yes, so that's an exotic wood imported into this country. -Yes. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
And this cube here is very like the French cube parquetry | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
-of the 18th century which is kingwood, known as kingwood. -Right. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
But it's just such a visual treat, I just love... | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
and this extraordinary shape to the frieze with these cut outs here. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
-Yes. -I've never seen anything quite like it. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
But what is so amazing about it | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
is...wow. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
There's no discolouration on it, I don't think it's... | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
It's hardly ever been used or exposed to the air, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
and it's just fabulous to see that | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
and what, I mean this wonderful decoration, these colours, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
contrasting colours on what's sort of like brown paper. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
-Mm. -This partridge... It's almost to look like partridge feathers. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
This wonderful stencil of red with this sort of Elizabethan-type scrollwork here, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
-and blue, vivid flowers. -It is. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
But then these just fascinate me, these holes. I mean, clearly made to cover the little buttons. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
-That's right. -And what have we got in here? Just more of the same, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
compartments, that's wonderful. Such an unusual thing. I mean... | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
Of course, people don't use these today for sewing. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
But if we close it and it fits nicely over those buttons... | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
I suspect that these have been put in later because I don't know why, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
just for decoration, somebody was playing with it. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
-Well, could have been, yes. -It seems such an odd position to have the key but it's offset. -Yeah. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
It's just a great visual treat, I mean, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
I think I'm going to put, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
for retail price or insurance price, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
£3,500...£3,800, something like that. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
Fantastic. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
Well, worth the restoration project. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
Well, I must say this is a very unprepossessing blob of icing sugar you've brought me. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
Where on earth did it come from? | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
Um, it was in a button box. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
And where did you get the box of buttons from? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
I bought the box of buttons in an auction about 35 years ago | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
because my grandmother told me when I was little, if you've got | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
-a box of buttons you'll never be broke, you'll always have some, you know, some wealth so... -How funny. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:51 | |
-So you bought the box of buttons. -Yes. -And what did it cost you? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
I think £1 then, about 30 years ago. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
Thirty years ago, and have you ever wondered what this was? | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
Um, it looks like a cameo, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
and it looks as if it ought... | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
-it's been uncut, as if it hasn't been finished. -Well, you're well on the way. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:12 | |
Quite impressive, actually. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
-Um, what we have is a cameo in the sense that it's in relief. -Right. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:20 | |
Of a lady in a mob cap and bodice. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
The clue to what it is, is here, it says "Jane Grey died February 1792", | 0:32:25 | 0:32:32 | |
and then the word "Tassie". | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
-Right, right. -Do you know who "Tassie" was? -No. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
Well, James Tassie was a very interesting man. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
He was born in Glasgow and he started out life as a stonemason. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:49 | |
-Oh... -And then he went to Dublin and there he developed a technique | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
of modelling in glass, and what he did was to model this in wax, | 0:32:53 | 0:33:00 | |
-in relief. -Yes. -Cast it, cast another one from that, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:06 | |
cast another one from that and then cast from that and in that one, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:13 | |
the last one, made of plaster of Paris, he put it in a kiln | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
and he put a sheet of glass on top of it and then heated the kiln up | 0:33:18 | 0:33:23 | |
and the sheet of glass went "blmmm" into the mould. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
-Into the mould! -Oh, right. -Now normally when one sees them, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
one doesn't have this, um, scarf edge round here. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
-And what I think's happened, you see it's slightly discoloured here? -Yes. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
He's looked at it and said "No, it's a second" and chucked it out. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
-Oh, not finished it off. -Not finished it off. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
-Oh. -However, although it's got that slight problem to it, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:52 | |
I still think that the market would like it very much. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
It's a big example, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
it's got the added interest of never having been trimmed. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
I think you could certainly see somewhere between £1,500 and £2,500 for it. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
-Really? As much as that? -Mm. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
Goodness me! | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
Wow, really? | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
Oh, thank you - that's lovely. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
I think it's entirely fitting that here we are in one | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
of the most historic settings that the Roadshow's been to, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
and laid out in front of us is some of the most historic silver | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
I've ever had the pleasure to see. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
-It presumably is the Corporation plate of Arundel. -Yes. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
And the first thing that intrigues me is this, looks like a very early medieval seal... | 0:34:37 | 0:34:44 | |
What is the significance of the bird? | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
Well, one of the theories is that after the Norman Conquest of 1066 | 0:34:47 | 0:34:54 | |
and the first fortification of Arundel, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
that the area was full of swallows | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
and the French for swallow is "hirondelle" | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
and hence people think that "hirondelle" | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
became "Arundel", so that's one of the theories. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
Well, that sounds entirely plausible to me. I mean looking at the... | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
script round the edge, this looks like quite an early piece, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:20 | |
early 16th century, possibly. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
-Now I can see the significance of the... -Right. -The swallow and the piece and your mayoral chain. -Yes. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:29 | |
-This piece is somewhat special. -Yes. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
Because not only | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
is it double the size of most drinking vessels of the period, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
and we're talking of something made in the reign of Charles II. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
-Right. -But it has a lovely inscription around the side, all spelt in rather funny English. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:48 | |
"The gift of Thomas Ballard, sometimes Mayor of Arundel, 1677". | 0:35:48 | 0:35:55 | |
-Now you're not sometimes mayor are you? -No I've been Mayor for two years | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
and it's a delightful town to be Mayor of. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
-Yeah, but again, we've got the swallow. -Yes. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
-Which is presumably the town crest? -Yes, it is. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
Perhaps the most interesting of all | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
are these group of maces here. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
Maces evolved from the original clubs that knights used to use | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
when they went into battle. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
-Right. -They used to ride into battle | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
-holding the club like that - this was the business end. -Right. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
This is what gave the headache, and... | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
at the late 15th century they became somewhat obsolete as arms | 0:36:33 | 0:36:39 | |
-and armour developed so they then became used that way up. -Right. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:45 | |
And on the top here we've got the lovely royal arms to show | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
that you were a true follower of the king or queen, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
incredibly rare. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
Gradually as the centuries evolved, | 0:36:55 | 0:37:00 | |
-we got to the grand maces of the 17th century. -Right. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
And here we have a fabulous Charles II one made in silver gilt, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
and this is really the full development of the mace, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:15 | |
with the big crown at the top and the business end | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
now is quite different, it's become purely ceremonial. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
Now is any of this stuff ever used? | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
I'm not saying you ride into battle clubbing people, but, um... | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
Well, this mace is used at every council meeting... | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
-Yeah. -..and every civic procession, and not too many years ago there | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
were protestors lining the street | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
and the mace bearer had to wield that to disperse a few of the protestors. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:47 | |
Well, I hope these are kept under safe lock and key. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
Yes, they are. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
Because we do have some pretty valuable pieces on this table. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
Yes, I'm sure, I'm sure. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
I think we are actually looking at a value, something probably | 0:37:57 | 0:38:03 | |
in excess of £300,000. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
Wow! Seriously? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
-It is. -We have to increase our insurance very quickly. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
It is pretty rare stuff, this. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
Well, thank you very much and we'll continue to look after them. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
Ooh, nice and easy does it... | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
Now, I don't know why it is that all the sort of naked women | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
that appear in this programme gravitate towards me. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Well, they especially said it should come to you. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
-Oh, did they? -Definitely. -I've got a reputation on this programme. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
-Definitely, definitely. -Well, it's nice to have a reputation, isn't it? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
Um, what can I say? | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
Um, I can say that she's Italiano, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
that I can say, and she's obviously from the 1930s but I can't give you | 0:38:49 | 0:38:56 | |
an exact date, I think maybe about 1935, something like that. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
Well, actually she was a wedding present from my father to my mother | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
and that is the original receipt. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
-Goodness me, two pounds and fifteen shillings in 1938. -Yeah. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
Three years out, not doing too badly. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
-No. -It's not the sort of normal wedding present you'd normally get. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
-You obviously had a very broadminded mother. -I think I probably did. -I'm sure this went in a drawer | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
-when the vicar came round on a Sunday. -Definitely not. -No? | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
-It was always pride of place. -Was it really? | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
-Yes. -Well, I think she's fabulous. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
When it comes to the maker, we've actually got a choice of two. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Could be Lenci or it could be Essevi, but it's almost certainly | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
modelled by Sandro Vacchetti, and he worked at both factories. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
They were actually based in Turin. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
-Yes. -So we can narrow it down and I love the idea of a Scottie dog, so 1930s... | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
why was it that Scottie dogs were big in the '30s, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
and Borzois big in the '20s? Anyway, I do know that she's desirable, OK, because... | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
No, you can't have her. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
I can't afford her, because to be frank, I just don't have the £4,000 to £5,000 necessary to buy her! | 0:39:55 | 0:40:03 | |
-That much? -Yes, £4,000 to £5,000, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
and I mean I've got to tell you, if she had her clothes on, she'd | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
only be worth half as much. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
It was found when my partner's mother died, put out for the dustbin man. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:19 | |
The dustbin man, gosh, he'd have been a lucky dustbin man! | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
And it took me about three hours to polish it up and get it sorted out | 0:40:22 | 0:40:28 | |
and that's when I recognised the little inscription on the side. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
-Which reads? -Lalique. -Lalique, there's something a little bit Gothic about this, isn't there? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
Um, yes, it's, I thought it was like Robin Hood actually with its... | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
It is, it's a sort of almost a sort of wood nymph, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
a wood god as well, because | 0:40:44 | 0:40:45 | |
it's burgeoning out of a sort of silver bud, isn't it? | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
His head is bursting out and in a way that's a complete signature | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
tune for Lalique because he's obsessed with the natural world, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
he looked at it in a new way and I'm very fortunate really that he made not only jewellery, | 0:40:56 | 0:41:02 | |
but also silversmith's work and goldsmith's work and so he comes into my orbit. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
-Right. -But he is a genius and this is a piece of genius, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
really, as far as I'm concerned. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
It's a practical object, the design is perfectly resolved and it works, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
but every time it's used, one is conscious of the fact that it is sculpture. What does it mean to you? | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
What do you feel about it? | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
It means a lot, because my partner, whose mother it was, has now died, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
so it's not for sale, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
but basically it's a memento of him and his mother so... | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
Yes, and we have to try and imagine the lady that would have carried it. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:39 | |
I think it is probably a lady's cane, it's quite light. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
We're going to try and take it back into the era in which it was | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
made which is about 1900 in Paris, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
and I think in the 1930s this thing would have been scorned, it was... | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
Everybody wanted geometrical things | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
and here you have a very sort of organic shape really, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
and curiously enough Lalique's great patron, Calouste Gulbenkian, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
wrote to Lalique's widow in 1930 saying that, "Your husband's work, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:04 | |
"which I have always treasured has now fallen into disrepute" | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
but she said, "There will be a time when this is the obsession of the contemporary elite", | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
-and this is where we find it now. -Oh. -And I think it's very valuable today. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
There is some issues of condition. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
-Right. -It's been dropped and rubbed and this, that and the other. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
It doesn't stop it being the most marvellous thing... | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Had it been perfect and went into a specialist sale of Art Nouveau, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
-it might have fetched something like £8,000 to £10,000. -God! | 0:42:26 | 0:42:31 | |
But I have no hesitation in valuing it for £4,000 today. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:36 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
I thought maybe £100 or £200 maximum. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:44 | |
Well, that's what you came here for. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
-Well, that's it. -That is it. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
And now to end with a moving little tale. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
We were filming earlier in the castle grounds and I was staring at the battlements in awe, | 0:42:55 | 0:43:00 | |
when, from a great height, a bird left a message on my shoulder. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
"That's lucky" said our guide... | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
"Lucky it didn't hit the rest of us." | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
Well, it's a souvenir and one I shall wear with pride. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
Thanks to everyone who brought us more welcome items, and special thanks | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
to the Duke and Duchess of Norfolk for the use of the Baron's Hall. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
But for now, from Arundel Castle in West Sussex, goodbye. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 |