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The famous owner of this fine house in the Buckinghamshire countryside

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once declared, "There are three kinds of lies - there are lies,

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"damned lies and statistics."

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He was, of course, a politician,

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three times Chancellor of the Exchequer, twice Prime Minister.

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The house is Hughenden Manor on the outskirts of High Wycombe.

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Today it's owned by the National Trust, but from

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the middle of the 19th century,

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it was the home of Conservative leader Benjamin Disraeli.

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Disraeli would have quite enjoyed the modern age

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of spin and the soundbyte.

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He once dismissed his main Liberal opponent with this one...

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"If Gladstone fell into the Thames, that would be a misfortune,

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"and if anybody pulled him out, that, I suppose, would be a calamity."

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Away from the hectic atmosphere of Westminster, Disraeli found

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the calm that he needed at Hughenden to devote himself to a whole raft

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of social policies.

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He brought in laws to encourage slum clearance

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and to find housing for the poor, and legislation to stop children

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being used as chimney sweeps.

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It wasn't all social reform and political put-down. Disraeli was

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also an enthusiastic host, the cream of Victorian high society were

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invited here, and when Queen Victoria herself came to dine,

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her chair was especially shortened

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so that her feet would touch the floor.

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The Queen always said that Disraeli was her favourite Prime Minister,

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and when he died, his body was laid out beneath her portrait.

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And while the apple of the Queen's eye dealt with matters of state,

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his wife, the effervescent Mary Anne,

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busied herself with matters on the estate.

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She supervised the planting of hundreds of trees

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and the landscaping of a vivid and colourful garden, all nicely matured

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for today's Antiques Roadshow.

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Well, this looks very comfortable.

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-Yes.

-Whoops. I'm sorry, I'll tighten up this multi-purpose chair.

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-How long have you had it?

-About five or six years.

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-Right, and...

-Just bought it at the local auction in Amersham

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where I work and near where I live. It's what I've been looking for.

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I thought I'd buy another one, but I fell in love with this.

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Have you had it recovered?

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I've had it reupholstered, again locally in Chesham, yes.

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-Well, he did a jolly good job.

-Very traditional.

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Oh, yes, quite interesting that

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-this idea developed over a period of 250 years.

-Uh-huh.

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The first moveable chair, adjustable chair, was introduced

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-in the end of the 17th century, fairly simple compared to this.

-Mm.

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But what I like about it is, it shows how the Industrial Revolution,

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the production of various metals and the absolutely unrestrainable

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imagination of the Victorians enabled this sort of thing

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to be created out of a simple idea.

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This chair does absolutely everything,

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and obviously, it slopes back, it rocks if I release that.

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-You don't want to rock, do you?

-No.

-OK!

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You've got a variety of foot-rest angles, you've got something

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to support your feet, if you can reach them,

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then you've got a little tray for your drink

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and this, which is the most fabulous universal-joint mechanical device, to enable you to read,

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and you just undo this, and the most amazing fitment

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on here and it swings round so you can have a book, a drink,

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-got the fire in front of you, marvellous.

-Describes my life, eh?

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If you feel like easing

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your head forward a little, then there's an even better headrest.

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This was made by Foot, well, they were one of several firms

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who patented various different designs, so can you

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remember how much you paid for it?

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Around £300, I think.

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OK, and you've spent quite a bit of money on it?

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About as much again, yes.

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Even that's very good because if you go back in

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the auction records, and certainly the last one I remember being sold,

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because one does remember things like this, was last September

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-and it made £1,400.

-Oh, very nice.

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-So that was good, you bought very well.

-Sit back and enjoy it.

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Sit back and enjoy the show, the perfect antique.

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Thank you very much.

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-Well, it's sort of "all aboard for the Antiques Roadshow".

-Yes.

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It's a great train set, and it's lovely to be able to

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put it out on the track here. What are your first memories of it?

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My father used to keep it in the wardrobe and

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one day Mother said, "You should see your father's old train set,"

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and got it out and had a look at it, but I never played with it.

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Now you never played with it

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because it was forbidden or because it was sort of old and fusty or...?

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No, I just felt that because it was so old, even then, that,

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I didn't want to take the chance of damaging it,

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particularly winding it up, and we never had a key in any case.

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I mean, I would put it around 1900/1902. Does that fit in with Dad?

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Yeah, that would fit in exactly, because he was born in 1898.

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Um, it's made by one of the great

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German manufacturers, a company called Gebruder Marklin.

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-Really?

-Now, Marklin started the business in the 1850s

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and in fact it's one of very few German manufacturing companies

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that's still in existence today, still making trains.

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And let's see if we can find a...

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let's see if we can find a trademark of the Marklin company.

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There's one on this little carriage here.

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-There we go, can you see this shield?

-Yes, yes.

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And in it, there is a letter "M"

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and we can see that that is the trademark

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of the Marklin company at that time, sort of 1900/1905 period.

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I mean, to me,

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what I love about this type of toy is that it's not an accurate model.

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It's...it's...

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got a sort of element of whimsy about it.

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-Do you see what I mean?

-Yeah, I do, yeah, yes.

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Everything's not quite to scale,

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it's done by somebody with a free hand,

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the painting is pretty but not prissy,

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and I can understand

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why people love them,

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and people do love them

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and they're very collectable.

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So whilst this is not in perfect condition,

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one can't pretend that it is, I still think it is

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a desirable object and I would have thought we're talking about £1,500,

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certainly, and maybe a little bit more with the wind behind it.

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-So have you ever seen it going?

-No, I haven't,

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which is probably because I have no key for it.

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Oh, shame, I wish I could magic a key up, but I can't.

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Um, but at least let's have

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an illusion of it going along under clockwork.

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-Yes.

-And just enjoy this survivor from the golden age of toys.

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What a good idea.

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Absolute riot of colour,

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this picture, all this produce, groaning produce on this bench here,

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being sold in this market

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is an extraordinary riot of colour.

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-Was it always this colourful in your memory?

-No.

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What happened is...

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We've had it in our family.

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It's my brother's picture, but he can't be here today.

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So I decided for a Christmas present for him, we'd get it cleaned

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-and this is the final result.

-Did he know you were going to do it

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-or did you just display it on Christmas Day?

-Oh, yes.

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We look after it, so it hangs up. He went, "Where's me picture gone?"

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I had to tell him, "I'll get it cleaned for you for Christmas."

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-Was it away a long time?

-Four months.

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They did a good job.

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When I saw this picture at first, I mean, I knew who it was by

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because it's an artist who always paints this scene.

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He's called Henry Charles Bryant.

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-Oh, right.

-So I felt a bit smart saying "Henry Charles Bryant",

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and then, of course, it's signed down here so that was

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a useful endorsement, but you know, he always does these scenes,

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it makes you wonder how many he did, because you see them in sale rooms

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across the country and they come up quite regularly.

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They're not always exactly the same, there are little variations,

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but what's distinctive about him are, in the figures, for example,

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he often only does the full profile, do you see?

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He avoids doing any turn of the face except for full face,

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because actually, he's not very good at them.

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If you look at this fellow, he's in three-quarter profile

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and it doesn't quite work, but what he is good at,

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remarkably good at, is painting the lemons and the eggs and the oranges

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and the pineapples. Just look at them, and the radishes

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and the spring onions and the potatoes, that's lovely.

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That's what I like, the vegetables and how clear it is now.

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Yeah, extraordinary, and then you get these chickens,

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which he's done extremely well. It's a bygone age.

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The EU won't let you buy any of this produce any more,

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not under these circumstances, and also I like his backdrops

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of these market towns, which are...

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I must say, there's very little known about this artist.

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-Oh, right.

-We know that he lived in London for much of his life

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then he moved to Portsea,

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near Portsmouth.

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Those are the addresses he gave

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when he exhibited in the British Institution, in Suffolk Street,

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but these market towns, they don't seem to bear any resemblance...

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although they seem to be generic market towns.

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So when you actually got it cleaned,

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did you get it valued as well?

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Yes, we got it valued and it came back to say

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that two pictures had been sold in London

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in 1990 and 1991

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-and both of them went for about £40,000 each.

-Phew!

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-It's a lot of money, isn't it?

-Aye.

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Well, since then, of course, those high prices have smoked out some

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more, and then we start to realise just how many of these he painted.

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Once, of course, you've bought your H C Bryant,

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you don't really need another one, and I think

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the price has sort of fallen away from those heights to now.

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I think it'd be more accurate

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now to put something like £15,000 to £20,000 on this.

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The market has dipped.

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It'll probably come back, so we should hang on.

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For insurance purposes, what would you say, then?

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Well, that's a tricky one. Who's to say it might not creep up again?

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It's just a dip, you know, you don't really know,

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um, so I would probably put

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a sort of an in-betweeny figure of £30,000 on it for insurance.

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-Right.

-But what a wonderful thing.

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It's a giant hand holding a huge pot. Oooh!

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And I suppose Italian-made, made in Italy.

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-Is it? Yes.

-Made in Italy, yes, and the diamonds are falling out of it.

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-Yes.

-Are they real diamonds?

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-I shouldn't think so.

-No, they're cut glass, aren't they?

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-Yes, yes.

-But they look jolly nice, this one has fallen out.

-Yes.

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Where does it live?

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-That side.

-Somewhere in there, so you're going to stick that back?

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-Back in, yes.

-Very valuable(!)

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But it's mad, isn't it?

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Through the family?

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My mother bought it in about 1960 or '70, I think.

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-Yes.

-Yes, and I've had it ever since, because she loved it.

-Yes.

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It's the sort of thing that you either love or you hate.

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-Yes, and what do you do?

-Well, I quite like it, yes.

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-It grows on you, doesn't it?

-Well, I suppose so, yes.

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-But what do you do with it?

-I just have it on the side.

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-I have it laid down, I don't have it...

-Laid down, so...

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-like that?

-Yes.

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And what do you do with it then?

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-Nothing, it's just an ornament on the side.

-Do you put things in it or...?

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Sometimes.

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It's absolutely crazy, little handmade flowers.

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-Yes.

-It's quite impressive and I suppose made around about

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-the 1920s. I don't suppose it's worth a huge amount.

-No.

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-I mean, Mother probably prized it and you prize it.

-Yes, yes.

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Worth, I don't know, about £50-£80, something like that.

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-As much as that?

-It's good for a laugh, isn't it?

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-Yes, yes.

-Marvellous, and put the diamond back.

-I will.

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Now I recognise this young man here. It's Christopher Robin, isn't it?

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-It is indeed.

-And his mother. I don't think I've seen

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-a photograph of her before.

-We assume it's his mother.

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-Well, I don't think he'd get that close with any old woman.

-No.

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I think that's lovely, and here we have a copy of Winnie The Pooh

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and it's signed "AA Milne".

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Now I notice it's not a first edition.

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Who is Farmhouse School?

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Well, my grandmother's best friend was a teacher there,

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and she wrote apparently to AA Milne

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asking if he would be prepared to take an interest

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in them, so he sent the book

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presumably soon after that, and it wasn't a first edition,

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and then that was...that was how it all started.

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Well, it's the same year as the first edition, which I think

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is very nice, also the fact that it's got a slightly grubby but

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nevertheless very serviceable dust jacket, which means

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that the cloth underneath - let's have a look - is very good.

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And here he is again

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looking absolutely enchanting. But you've also got, I've noticed,

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this - the complete Winnie The Pooh. Now this is a lot later, obviously.

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-Yes.

-But it's got rather... It's by AA Milne, obviously.

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But it's got another rather interesting inscription,

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inscribed, "To Miss Jean Craig to remind her of our second meeting

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"after very many years

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"at Dartmouth on 11th February 1960, Christopher Robin Milne."

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Which suggests to me that he met her before, at the school.

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I presume so, I'm not sure about that, he mentions

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in his autobiography that there was this one school that they had contact

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with, because obviously they had a lot of people writing in to ask for things,

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but they felt that this little school in Birmingham

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was one that they could support, and then they sent the book

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and sent the pictures.

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It's absolutely lovely, and this,

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which is the piece of resistance, I have to say, is fantastic.

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It's a picture of a rather effeminate son, Christopher Robin, and AA Milne,

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his father, and it's signed here "Christopher Robin",

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childish handwriting, and "AA Milne"

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there on the other side, which I think is absolutely cracking.

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Well, anybody who's collecting Pooh would want that, wouldn't they?

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So, what about values?

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We've never had them valued, they're family pieces.

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-They're family pieces now!

-They are family pieces.

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Right, right. Let's start at the beginning, shall we?

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Um, the one with Mummy that's unsigned, I think we can probably

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say somewhere between £300 and £500 on that.

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The second edition of Winnie The Pooh, I should think we can say

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somewhere in the region of, what, £500 for that.

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This one, "The Complete Winnie The Pooh"

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with the lovely inscription by

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Christopher Robin Milne, I wouldn't put anything like that on it, simply

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because it's from a different era, it's not the Christopher Robin that

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we know and love, it's...it's a bookseller, antiquarian bookseller.

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Yes, I think he was quite unhappy about his...his...

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-His childhood.

-..childhood experience.

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Being dragged around in a pudding-basin haircut and all that,

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but for this one, which is what any Pooh collector would want...

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..I can see that going for...

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-£2,000.

-Goodness me, amazing.

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Isn't that the most wonderful photograph, though?

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-It's excellent, isn't it?

-It's got everything going for it.

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-Lovely.

-Lovely to see them, and thank you for bringing them.

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Well, thank you very much.

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Well, this mass of colour and pattern says only thing to me,

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and I think you know as well as I that we're looking

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at a wonderful piece of Poole pottery.

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How does it come to be in your possession?

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Well, I saw it on the wall of a house which had been emptied and the

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people who'd inherited the house had taken out what I was told they wanted

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to keep, and this was on the wall, and I understood that everything was

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going to house clearance, so I took it home and peeled off the sticker

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that was on the back, the hanger, and saw that it was Poole,

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which I really didn't know anything about at the time.

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I phoned the Poole Collectors Club and I spoke to the gentleman who was

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the secretary at the time - this is some years ago - and he said,

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"Oh, yes, describe it to me... Yes, I think I know the sort of plate it is."

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He said, "Can you tell me what's on the back?"

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So I told him there was a pin man

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doing the splits and juggling with one ball

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and he said could I turn it up the other way!

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The detective work's got you quite a long way down the line,

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but hopefully there's a little bit more I can clear up for you.

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If we look at the back to start, we quite clearly have two very

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-important marks here.

-Yes.

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The first of these is this sort of monogram,

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-your juggling man doing the splits.

-Yes.

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Well, I think you decided that it might be a "T" and an "M".

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-Yes.

-Absolutely spot on, and actually it relates to a very

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important gentleman at the Poole pottery works called Tony Morris.

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-Right.

-The second mark that is very important and makes it something

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slightly different for Poole is this one here, which is the Poole

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-Studio mark.

-I see.

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Now if we go back to 1963,

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we've got Poole pottery working

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in conjunction with Heal's of London, and they're launching a new range.

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-Ah.

-And it was called Poole Studio.

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Now something that I love about this which once sort of told becomes all

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so obvious is the inspiration for this pattern, and actually it is a

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vertical aerial view of a town plan.

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-No!

-With its streets and its towns and its cities and its buildings.

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That's not what I see at all.

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No? Well, I'm not going to say you're wrong either,

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but that was his inspiration, it was all about town planning.

0:18:370:18:40

-Really?

-And that's what he drew, and you think about the '60s,

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it was all about town planning and rejuvenating.

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One thing with this type of pottery was, it basically didn't

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survive that long, it wasn't made in great quantities because it was

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just so expensive.

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-Really?

-They used the most expensive glazes, they used the most expensive

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time-consuming methods of decoration,

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-and as a result you don't see as much of this around on the market.

-Mm.

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And I think an auction price today, if this were to go into a saleroom,

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this would carry quite comfortably

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-a pre-sale estimate of £800 to £1,200.

-Wow.

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And I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't top out over

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the upper estimate of that.

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-Gracious.

-Commercially it is everything a Poole Studio collector

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would want to see.

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I've had a quick look in the books that I've got here today,

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I can't find William Ball of High Wycombe offhand,

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but it's great to find a Wycombe clock anyway when we're here. Can you give me any background on him?

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Right, now, William Ball lived in Crendon Lane, which is now

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Crendon Street in High Wycombe, and he made clocks at number eight.

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He assembled the kit from Birmingham and then the cases were made by local cabinet makers.

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My great great great great great great grandfather was a local cabinet maker

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and he at that time was living up at the White Lion which is just up in Crendon Lane,

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he was the licensee, and they made chairs and clocks and suite cabinets and all that sort of stuff.

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Well, I was going to say that the case is slightly unusual.

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It's obviously the style, the broken arch top and that sort of thing

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is typical for the very end of the 18th century, 1790, with the

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parquetry, but what is a bit more unusual is the parquetry stringing

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and the way it's been inlaid,

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-it's I suppose what you'd call an up-market country clock case.

-Yes.

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We're not that far from London so in a sense some of the techniques that

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would have been used in London...

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-He's probably trying to flog them there!

-Yeah.

0:20:350:20:37

..have crept out to here whereas if you go...

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the further you go out into the country, usually the simpler they are.

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-Mm. Mm.

-One point I would

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like to bring up is the base. I am not convinced

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that this bit here is original, I reckon that that is replaced.

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OK.

0:20:540:20:56

Probably end of the 19th century.

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Yeah, woodworm, probably.

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More likely actually is washing the stone floors.

0:21:000:21:04

-Oh, right, rotting the...

-Chucking down buckets of water,

0:21:040:21:06

washing it, and in fact somebody's made a nice stout base for that.

0:21:060:21:10

-Yeah.

-Which you could effectively

0:21:100:21:12

-wash about and you wouldn't damage the base.

-Yeah.

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But they rotted out very easily.

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-Yeah, OK.

-It seems to be running too.

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Yes, great great great grandfather didn't want to pay the winders.

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-Sorry?

-Well, you see this gentleman here...

0:21:240:21:26

We're talking about the lock being ripped off.

0:21:260:21:28

This geyser, like lots of clockmakers, he had a winder,

0:21:280:21:31

-and the winder went round to wind people's clocks up.

-Yeah, yeah.

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Bought the clock and you had to pay the winder to come and wind it up.

0:21:340:21:38

-You bought the clock...

-He kept the key.

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And the man...Mr Ball kept...?

0:21:400:21:42

-Yeah, he kept the key.

-That is seriously smart.

0:21:420:21:44

So he has an income, doesn't he?

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Great great great grandfather said, "I'm not paying him a penny a week,"

0:21:460:21:49

screwdriver,

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lock's gone...Blu-Tack...

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so whatever.

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The top of the second opening,

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there's a small catch, which if we pull it down...

0:21:570:22:01

-Yes. There we go.

-The theory was that you could not upset the clock,

0:22:010:22:04

so whether it was the master of the house or the local clockmaker

0:22:040:22:08

who came round and wound it, kids could not play with it.

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My brother and I did. We used to climb into the loft on it, hence the finial missing.

0:22:130:22:17

I was about to mention that, that you'd

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-forgotten to bring it with you.

-It's a climbing frame.

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You see, one step, two steps, three steps, into the loft, loft access.

0:22:220:22:26

Well, it's a fascinating story, it is a fairly conventional

0:22:260:22:30

clock of the period.

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The local interest will obviously affect the value,

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I mean, it's a family thing, but generally when you find a clock

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that is locally made,

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despite the fact that the movement will have been, as you say, made in Birmingham or somewhere like that,

0:22:390:22:44

and signed and made for a local customer, it makes a difference.

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And I would say this is now the sort of clock that's worth

0:22:480:22:52

perhaps in the region of about £3,000 or so.

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I've got it on my insurance at three, which is...

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You could put that up a bit. The purpose of insurance

0:22:570:23:00

is that you don't have to become an antique dealer to replace it,

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so the insurance value is usually a bit higher.

0:23:030:23:05

I'd say four for insurance and about three for value.

0:23:050:23:08

"James the mouler and David the butcher".

0:23:090:23:13

-Any relation?

-I don't think so.

0:23:130:23:16

I believe my mother found this at an auction a long time ago, I'm not

0:23:160:23:19

sure, but it's always been around, but I don't think they're family.

0:23:190:23:22

-And she got it how many years ago?

-I would say probably 40 to 50, I believe.

-And where does it live?

0:23:220:23:29

We keep it in the downstairs loo so the cats can't get at it and knock it over.

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-Not because you're ashamed of it?

-No, we love it, and we don't want the cats to obliterate it.

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It's a bit of a mystery piece, this.

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It says underneath "Their bottle, June 1790..."

0:23:390:23:44

-Is that Hadleigh, Essex?

-Yes.

-So I think we can presume it's a local Essex pottery.

0:23:440:23:49

It's certainly that lovely native English red soil covered in a lead glaze.

0:23:490:23:54

Now if you put cider into a lead glaze, you get a nice little

0:23:540:23:58

amount of lead poisoning every time you take a swig.

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-Super(!)

-And that's why they're a bit strange in those parts of Essex.

0:24:010:24:05

So we will never know what brought James the mouler

0:24:050:24:10

and David together, but whatever it was, it happened on 17th June 1790.

0:24:100:24:15

I think it's a really gorgeous honest pot and I guess it's worth

0:24:150:24:20

somewhere in the region of, let's say £500 to £800.

0:24:200:24:23

Oh, lovely, that's good.

0:24:230:24:25

They do say, as you get older and older, you retire more and more

0:24:280:24:32

into your childhood, and this reminds me of my childhood on the

0:24:320:24:36

south coast and summer holidays, catching crabs and shrimps

0:24:360:24:41

and prawns and eels

0:24:410:24:44

on the south coast.

0:24:440:24:46

On one glorious day I put down my net and a lobster walked backwards

0:24:460:24:52

into it and I came back, age seven, with a live lobster and this was

0:24:520:24:58

sort of post-war austerity and it was really very exciting

0:24:580:25:02

and my mother cooked it, and I've never eaten lobster since.

0:25:020:25:07

Don't try these.

0:25:070:25:09

This looks very much like the seashore down there at Bognor.

0:25:090:25:13

These are in fact Japanese

0:25:130:25:15

rather than Sussex, these are all late 19th century.

0:25:150:25:21

-Right.

-They're mostly made of bronze and they've been patinated.

-Ah.

0:25:210:25:26

-You didn't know?

-I thought they were bronze but then we saw brass,

0:25:260:25:29

when we moved those segments on the crayfish there.

0:25:290:25:33

-Well, what you can see here is the base colour.

-Yes.

0:25:330:25:38

It is actually effectively a brass.

0:25:380:25:41

-Yes.

-And that has then been patinated to give it this

0:25:410:25:45

coppery, browny, goldy whatever colour that they wanted on it.

0:25:450:25:50

Um, and that is what you will find on any bronze

0:25:500:25:55

where it stands, you'll find it rubs to that colour.

0:25:550:25:58

Do you have them at home crawling

0:25:580:26:01

across the carpet, or on a table?

0:26:010:26:03

Well, they belonged to my mother, and now they've come down to my

0:26:030:26:08

sister and me, and before that they were my grandfather's,

0:26:080:26:13

-and he was something of a naturalist, loved creepy crawlies like this.

-Ah.

0:26:130:26:17

-And so they've sort of always been there.

-Right.

0:26:170:26:20

On a shelf, in a row, actually.

0:26:200:26:22

-Really?

-So first time we've had them in the round as it were.

0:26:220:26:25

First time they've seen the light of day, like this anyway.

0:26:250:26:28

-They do look wonderful together, I think.

-They do.

0:26:280:26:31

Most of them are just

0:26:310:26:32

fixed...

0:26:320:26:35

demonstrations of a particular crustacean, but two are articulated

0:26:350:26:42

and the...

0:26:420:26:44

arms and legs and the claws are all moveable,

0:26:440:26:49

giving a very naturalistic...

0:26:490:26:53

Yes, we were very intrigued as children, as you can imagine.

0:26:530:26:56

I can imagine, and look at this one, absolutely fantastic.

0:26:560:27:01

It's really...

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LAUGHTER

0:27:030:27:04

..lovely.

0:27:040:27:05

And these come out like that.

0:27:050:27:08

Now value. I think that the majority of these are in the region

0:27:100:27:16

of £100 to £150 each.

0:27:160:27:20

Once you come to something more amusing like that...

0:27:200:27:25

..you're in the £250 to £300 region,

0:27:270:27:30

and that one, we're looking at £300 to £500.

0:27:300:27:36

Overall we're looking somewhere at

0:27:360:27:38

-£1,500 to £2,000.

-That's very nice.

0:27:380:27:42

-Very interesting.

-So thank you very much indeed.

-A pleasure, thank you.

-Thank you.

0:27:420:27:46

I'm sure Disraeli would be quite happy that we're doing the Antiques Roadshow on his south lawn.

0:27:530:27:57

Unfortunately, of course, he's been lying here since 1881.

0:27:570:28:01

-Did he choose to be buried here, Jessie?

-He did.

0:28:010:28:03

When he died he was offered the chance of being buried in Westminster Abbey as he'd been a prime minister,

0:28:030:28:09

but he chose to be buried here, at Hughenden, the place that he loved,

0:28:090:28:12

just down the hill from the manor house and next to his wife.

0:28:120:28:15

And next also, I see, to Sarah Brydges-Willyams.

0:28:150:28:18

How did that come about?

0:28:180:28:21

Yes, throughout his life Disraeli made a lot of relationships with

0:28:210:28:24

older women who could look after him.

0:28:240:28:25

Mrs Brydges-Willyams was one of these.

0:28:250:28:28

She promised to give him her legacy when she died,

0:28:280:28:32

if he would let her be buried in the tomb next to him and his wife.

0:28:320:28:36

He and Mary Anne agreed on this, and here she lies, and the £30,000

0:28:360:28:41

that he inherited on her death enabled them to restore and remodel

0:28:410:28:44

the house and the gardens in the way that they wanted.

0:28:440:28:47

So the great statesman and reformer was actually short of a few bob?

0:28:470:28:51

He was, yes, many times through his life.

0:28:510:28:54

He lost all his money on South American mining shares

0:28:540:28:57

very early on in his life, he launched a newspaper which failed,

0:28:570:29:01

and he made his name for himself as a novelist, writing best-selling novels

0:29:010:29:06

but they made him a lot of enemies because of the thinly veiled attacks

0:29:060:29:09

on famous people that he put inside them, and throughout all

0:29:090:29:12

his life, he struggled against debt, using Mary Anne's money, money he

0:29:120:29:16

borrowed off friends, really to try and maintain the life he had here.

0:29:160:29:20

So there was much more to Disraeli than met the public eye.

0:29:200:29:23

Absolutely, he tried to keep it very well under wraps.

0:29:230:29:26

You know, I've probably said it before,

0:29:310:29:33

but if objects could talk, I'd be out of a job!

0:29:330:29:36

But I know you're going to do some talking about these plates.

0:29:360:29:39

-This is the focus of your attention today?

-It is indeed, yes.

0:29:390:29:42

Because in these two straightforward dessert dishes

0:29:420:29:46

lies a tale that connects these dishes with the house,

0:29:460:29:51

and Byron and Disraeli, yes?

0:29:510:29:54

-Indeed, yes.

-So just elaborate, just fill me in.

0:29:540:29:58

OK, my great great great grandfather was a Venetian gondolier, that's a portrait of him there.

0:29:580:30:04

The great man. He doesn't look very Venetian there, does he?

0:30:040:30:07

No, Disraeli had this picture commissioned in 1836, and had him

0:30:070:30:11

dressed up in a Turkish outfit for it, not quite the Italian look.

0:30:110:30:15

OK, now this is a copy, the original is in the house behind us.

0:30:150:30:20

-It hangs in Hughenden, yes.

-OK.

-It was commissioned by Disraeli

0:30:200:30:23

because he was quite a character.

0:30:230:30:26

Um, he came to England in about 1832

0:30:260:30:29

and went to work for Disraeli's father Isaac,

0:30:290:30:32

-who lived about five minutes down the road at Bradenham Manor.

-OK.

0:30:320:30:35

They worked there for 19 years, he was the valet.

0:30:350:30:38

When the house was broken up he went to work in London,

0:30:380:30:41

but the story that comes back to the

0:30:410:30:43

plates is that we were always told that they came from the house of

0:30:430:30:47

Benjamin Disraeli.

0:30:470:30:49

No-one had ever tried to verify it, but because we have Falcieri...

0:30:490:30:54

This is Giovanni Batista Falcieri.

0:30:540:30:56

..working in the house at the time, we have the perfect opportunity here

0:30:560:31:01

-for them to have come across some of these plates.

-Right.

0:31:010:31:03

But they have to have certain dates.

0:31:030:31:05

-They do?

-Yes, because the house was closed up in 1848,

0:31:050:31:09

so if the plates are later than 1848, I don't think the story works.

0:31:090:31:14

-All right.

-So this is the clincher really.

0:31:140:31:16

I want to know a little bit more about this chap because he's known as Tita?

0:31:160:31:20

Tita, he was nicknamed Tita, we're not too sure who nicknamed him,

0:31:200:31:23

but Byron always called him Tita, so he may have given him that nickname.

0:31:230:31:26

-OK. So I'm looking backwards and forwards in here.

-Yes.

0:31:260:31:29

And you do have a definite Italianate look,

0:31:290:31:31

you have a sort of a look of the Latin about you.

0:31:310:31:34

If you look through the family tree pictures, everyone looks Italian.

0:31:340:31:38

-Yes.

-It's a very, very strong look that's carried right down.

0:31:380:31:41

Now he is actually dressed in such a way, he looks more in the way

0:31:410:31:44

of a Greek or a Turk, doesn't he?

0:31:440:31:46

Which would work with a Byron connection.

0:31:460:31:48

Yes, well, he fought with Byron in the Greek War of Independence.

0:31:480:31:51

-Oh, did he?

-And when Byron died in Missolonghi in 1824, he was at

0:31:510:31:56

his bedside and he actually brought the body back to England for burial.

0:31:560:32:00

Fascinating stuff.

0:32:000:32:02

But Disraeli said, "Oh, yes, my father could do with a valet. Off you go to Bradenham."

0:32:020:32:06

So they sent him up there and he caused absolute havoc because he

0:32:060:32:10

was such an unusual character, for all these local people living

0:32:100:32:13

in this tiny village in Bradenham,

0:32:130:32:14

who'd never seen anything like it.

0:32:140:32:16

-I bet.

-He was... A lot of jealousy apparently between the staff over this character.

0:32:160:32:21

Was that the female staff, I wonder?

0:32:210:32:24

Um, I would guess so. He did actually end up marrying the housekeeper.

0:32:240:32:27

-Oh, did he?

-Yes,

0:32:270:32:28

So there must have been a relationship built up there.

0:32:280:32:31

Well, there was obviously a relationship because

0:32:310:32:32

-here you are today!

-Yeah.

0:32:320:32:34

You're living evidence of it, you know!

0:32:340:32:36

Absolutely, so yes.

0:32:360:32:38

So it all comes back to the plates, doesn't it?

0:32:380:32:41

It's all down to the plates, yes.

0:32:410:32:42

Let's have a look at the plates, let's just turn one up.

0:32:420:32:45

Um, well we can see a little bit of the history of the piece,

0:32:450:32:49

because it's been restored.

0:32:490:32:51

Now, getting to the point,

0:32:510:32:53

you were looking for a maker's mark, there's nothing there.

0:32:530:32:55

-No.

-There is a pattern number, OK. That is indicative of

0:32:550:33:00

quite a lot of pottery throughout the 19th century. You would have

0:33:000:33:03

thought whoever made these would have been happy to say, you know,

0:33:030:33:07

"I was proud to make that plate."

0:33:070:33:09

But it was just the way it was between 1820 and 1840.

0:33:090:33:13

-Right.

-So your plates, um,

0:33:150:33:19

are around about 1830 in date.

0:33:190:33:22

-Fabulous.

-Which I think works in well with your gondolier.

-Yes.

0:33:220:33:28

-With Byron, with Dizzy, as he was called in these parts.

-Absolutely, yes.

0:33:280:33:33

If you were to ask me what the plates are worth,

0:33:330:33:35

to be frank, they're the sort of thing that you can go on a local car boot and pick up for a fiver.

0:33:350:33:41

But we're not talking money here, we're talking treasure.

0:33:410:33:43

-Absolutely.

-And the treasure is in the story,

0:33:430:33:47

and the treasure is in the connection with a character who's long gone.

0:33:470:33:51

-Yes.

-What a nice little bit of family history.

-Thank you.

0:33:510:33:54

They've been in the family as long as I remember, then I inherited them,

0:33:540:33:59

and I believe my grandfather brought them home from the Far East

0:33:590:34:04

because he was in sanitation, and he worked out there, and I think

0:34:040:34:09

probably brought these home as a gift for my nan or family members.

0:34:090:34:13

-He was laying pipes, was he, in the Far East?

-Yes, yes.

0:34:130:34:17

Which countries in the Far East was he visiting?

0:34:170:34:19

I think he was China, Japan and those sort of countries,

0:34:190:34:22

back in 1900, 1910 sort of era.

0:34:220:34:25

He probably popped in on India on the way back, I guess.

0:34:250:34:28

-Quite probably.

-That's where the box comes from, the box is Indian.

0:34:280:34:32

-Ah, right.

-And they're all pretty much of a period. I'm going to put

0:34:320:34:35

the period around the 1890s, early 1900s, does that square?

0:34:350:34:40

Yes, yes, a bit earlier than I thought, but yes.

0:34:400:34:42

Yeah, OK, well, the figure we've got here is a Chinese Immortal.

0:34:420:34:47

He's called Lui Hai, and he's depicted with a toad...

0:34:470:34:51

-Can you see the toad peeping out of there?

-Yes.

0:34:510:34:54

Do you see this lovely little plume of smoke,

0:34:540:34:57

this is sort of auspicious vapour...

0:34:570:35:00

-Right.

-..that's coming out of the toad and he's got...

0:35:000:35:03

They've even inlaid the eyes.

0:35:030:35:05

He's rather a nice character

0:35:050:35:06

-and he's supposed to bring you good luck and good fortune.

-Right.

0:35:060:35:10

You can see the carver's actually followed the tip of the ivory,

0:35:100:35:14

this is the bottom part of an elephant's tusk,

0:35:140:35:16

the very last part of the tusk,

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and they've put it onto a separate piece of ivory.

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Very often, you'll find ivory figures conform to the outline of

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the tusk because they don't want to waste any of the material.

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-Right.

-So he's Chinese. What about this lady here?

0:35:290:35:32

Oh, she's beautiful, the craftsmanship,

0:35:320:35:35

-the exquisite...

-This is your favourite?

-Yes, I love her.

0:35:350:35:39

Well, I'm pretty sure I can say that today,

0:35:390:35:43

whatever we see,

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however many thousands of pieces we're going to see today, and we see a lot of ivory,

0:35:450:35:49

I would be very, very surprised

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if we see a piece as good as this.

0:35:500:35:52

In terms of carving, this is as good as it gets.

0:35:550:35:59

It's incredible, isn't it? And is this one Japanese or Chinese?

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-This is Japanese.

-This is Japanese.

0:36:020:36:04

Absolutely.

0:36:040:36:05

There was an extraordinary

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meticulous interest in total detail, obsessional.

0:36:080:36:13

-Right.

-I mean, when you look at this, it's obsessional, isn't it?

0:36:130:36:16

-Yes.

-The fan...

-The fan.

0:36:160:36:19

The fan, if we actually look down the edge,

0:36:190:36:21

you can see they've actually unfurled

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just a couple of leaves out of there

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and you can see the others folded back on themselves. The hairdo,

0:36:240:36:28

the way it's bunched...

0:36:280:36:31

Every time I look at it,

0:36:310:36:33

-I marvel at it.

-You get enjoyment out of this?

0:36:330:36:36

-Yes, I do.

-You're absolutely right, though,

0:36:360:36:37

the flowers are the crowning glory,

0:36:370:36:39

-aren't they?

-Yes.

0:36:390:36:41

That is absolutely amazing carving.

0:36:410:36:43

Now ivory's a very sensitive issue

0:36:430:36:46

because people like elephants, I like elephants. At the time

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this was made, the elephant was not an endangered species.

0:36:490:36:53

I have no problem in enjoying this piece.

0:36:530:36:57

They were a farmed resource.

0:36:570:36:59

I know today it's a different matter,

0:36:590:37:01

so I don't think you should have any qualms

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about owning something like this. Other people might disagree.

0:37:040:37:08

Remarkably, the artist's signature is incredibly modest,

0:37:080:37:13

in fact it's almost indecipherable, and it appears right down in the

0:37:130:37:16

bottom, at the centre of the piece. I think that is absolutely superb.

0:37:160:37:21

Right, your Indian box, not worth a huge amount of money, maybe £50.

0:37:210:37:26

-Right.

-Your Chinese Lui Hai,

0:37:260:37:29

he's probably worth about £200 or so.

0:37:290:37:34

Right, she's in good nick.

0:37:340:37:37

-Good.

-Any idea of value?

0:37:370:37:39

-Well, if that's £200...

-Yes.

0:37:390:37:41

..um...that's...£800.

0:37:420:37:45

Yes, I think you're right. I think if that came up for auction,

0:37:450:37:51

I would have thought £2,000 would be about right.

0:37:510:37:54

Not £800. £2,000!

0:37:560:37:59

Right.

0:37:590:38:00

Good gracious.

0:38:000:38:03

Do you mind if I'm a bit rude?

0:38:050:38:07

We see a lot of jewellery like this brought in on the Antiques Roadshow.

0:38:090:38:12

Do you know what they are?

0:38:120:38:14

-I don't, no.

-All right, well, what they are, are colourless glass

0:38:140:38:18

clusters for the ears.

0:38:180:38:20

-Right.

-And in fact there they are, mounted up in their pad.

0:38:200:38:23

-Yes.

-So they're white glass, known as paste.

-Right.

0:38:230:38:26

In colourless paste borders, mounted up in white metal and these were

0:38:260:38:30

made in around about, what, 1900, 1910. They're copies of diamonds.

0:38:300:38:35

Now what do you know about these pieces

0:38:350:38:37

here in the box all twisted up in this paper here?

0:38:370:38:40

-Shall I take them out?

-Yes.

-What do you know about that one?

0:38:400:38:43

All I know is that they all belonged to my great grandmother.

0:38:430:38:46

-Mm.

-She was from Buxton.

0:38:460:38:48

That's all I know, and it was passed through the family...

0:38:480:38:53

-So nothing was conveyed to you?

-No, not at all, no.

0:38:530:38:56

-This is just, this is the jewellery and it's yours.

-That's right.

0:38:560:39:00

So do you assume that that is the same as that,

0:39:000:39:03

as far as the material is concerned?

0:39:030:39:05

-I would have thought so, yes.

-Do you? Right.

0:39:050:39:08

-Well, those are diamonds.

-Right.

0:39:080:39:10

OK.

0:39:100:39:12

So those are paste, worth around about £10 or £15.

0:39:120:39:16

-OK.

-Those are diamonds and it's worth more than that.

-Yes.

0:39:160:39:19

The brooch itself was probably made in around about 1925-1930

0:39:190:39:24

and it's Art Deco.

0:39:240:39:25

It follows the clear defined design for Art Deco,

0:39:250:39:29

geometric, linear, mounted in platinum.

0:39:290:39:33

Now if I get to grips with it, the diamonds themselves are,

0:39:330:39:38

as I say, typically set,

0:39:380:39:40

but the quality of the stones is incredible.

0:39:400:39:43

-Mmm.

-They're practically pure white diamonds.

0:39:430:39:47

The centre stone would weigh around about 1.50 carat, 1.60 carat.

0:39:470:39:50

These weigh about a carat apiece, and you've got this

0:39:500:39:54

sprinkling of smaller stones within.

0:39:540:39:57

In the twist of paper wrapping the box,

0:39:570:40:01

-we've got this as well.

-Yes.

0:40:010:40:04

-What do you know about that?

-I would have said diamonds.

0:40:040:40:07

Why?

0:40:070:40:09

Just the way they're glistening.

0:40:090:40:12

-But nothing was told to you about what these were?

-No.

0:40:120:40:16

All right.

0:40:160:40:18

-Those are diamonds.

-Yes.

0:40:180:40:20

And they're big stones. Those are diamonds and they're huge stones.

0:40:200:40:23

-Yes.

-Hmm.

0:40:230:40:25

Let me try and tell you what sort of weight of diamonds we have here.

0:40:260:40:30

If I place it on the back of my hand,

0:40:300:40:32

-first of all let me tell you about the history of it.

-Mm-hm.

0:40:320:40:35

It was made in around about,

0:40:350:40:37

I suppose what, 1910-1915, this sort of period of belle epoque jewellery.

0:40:370:40:44

They sometimes called them negligee pendants and actually that means

0:40:440:40:48

a diamond or a gem with a bar and a bigger gem at the bottom.

0:40:480:40:51

Mm-hm.

0:40:510:40:53

But here, what they've done is

0:40:530:40:55

they've mounted three specimen diamonds

0:40:550:40:58

-and the top stone weighs around about 2 carats to 2.20 carats.

-Right.

0:40:580:41:04

And the bottom stones individually weigh, I suppose,

0:41:040:41:09

3.20 carat each.

0:41:090:41:13

Wow.

0:41:130:41:14

In other words, if you add up the total weight of diamonds here

0:41:140:41:19

-in this piece, in this screw of paper that you've got.

-Yes, yes.

0:41:190:41:22

-You've got the best part of ten carats...

-Wow.

0:41:220:41:25

..of diamonds in these three stones.

0:41:250:41:28

That's incredible.

0:41:300:41:31

Now, the...

0:41:310:41:33

So obviously you've never had them valued.

0:41:340:41:37

I think my mother had the necklace valued.

0:41:370:41:40

-She did?

-She did, yes.

-OK, but never intimated to you what it might be?

0:41:400:41:43

She mentioned it, yes.

0:41:430:41:45

-What did she say?

-£3,000.

0:41:450:41:47

£3,000. Well, that's a good price for a diamond pendant,

0:41:470:41:52

but you do not buy ten carats of diamonds for £3,000 today.

0:41:520:41:56

Wow.

0:41:560:41:58

No, this diamond brooch is, by itself,

0:41:580:42:01

in my opinion, worth, if you were selling it,

0:42:010:42:03

something in the region of £7,000 or £8,000.

0:42:030:42:05

-Gosh, wow.

-Just for that one.

0:42:050:42:09

Now you've got ten carats of diamonds, their cut is all matching

0:42:090:42:15

and they're reasonable clarity.

0:42:150:42:18

Now if you were to say to me what does the market want at the moment?

0:42:180:42:22

-They all want diamonds, they're crying out for diamonds.

-Right.

0:42:220:42:24

Frankly, there's a shortage of diamonds on the market,

0:42:240:42:27

and what's that doing?

0:42:270:42:28

It's pressing the price up and up,

0:42:280:42:30

so your £3,000...

0:42:300:42:32

I'm going to probably say something like £18,000-£22,000.

0:42:320:42:37

Gosh, that's amazing.

0:42:370:42:40

-It is really a very serious piece of diamond jewellery.

-Right.

0:42:420:42:47

What a spectacular thing to find,

0:42:470:42:49

-I'm absolutely bowled over, fabulous. Thank you very much indeed, thank you.

-Thank you.

0:42:490:42:54

Hughenden's owner, Disraeli, had the right phrase for every occasion,

0:42:570:43:00

he even had one that would suit the Roadshow

0:43:000:43:03

when he wrote, "The greatest good you can do for another is not just to share your riches,

0:43:030:43:07

"but to reveal to him his own." Very true.

0:43:070:43:11

We plan to return to Hughenden when we shall reveal the story that the house kept a secret for 60 years.

0:43:110:43:17

Until then, goodbye.

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