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It's not just grand houses we get to visit on the Roadshow. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:03 | |
We see some of the most beautiful gardens in the land as well, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
and we've two of them to share with you, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
with some unseen gems from two of our most beautifully manicured venues. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
One of the things I like best about the Roadshow is that it's one big guessing game. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Thousands of people stagger along, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
laden down with mysterious bags and packages, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
and their first port of call is what we call Reception. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
That's where we get our first peek. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
And it's my favourite place on the Roadshow. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
I love trying to fathom out what's inside our visitors' bags and why they've brought them. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
But I'm just a beginner at this. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
People like Henry here are the masters of the game. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Our experts see thousands of objects pass before their eyes at every Roadshow, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
and every now and again they come across a really exciting find. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
Tonight we're bringing you rich pickings from two recent shows - | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
from the gardens here at Bodnant in North Wales, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
and from our visit to the Cornish coast when we dropped anchor at Lanhydrock. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
There it was Bunny Campione's turn to make an exciting discovery. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
So this is known as an automaton, which is a singing bird, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:53 | |
or mechanical clock automaton, so it's got everything in it. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
Tell me, how long have you had it? | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
Me, personally, about 25 years, because that's when I married | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
-my husband and it was his clock, not mine, sort of thing. -Oh, right. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
But I don't know how long he had it before then. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
It just came with him! | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Marry me, marry my automaton! | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
It's by the firm of Blaise Bontems in Paris. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:27 | |
And he founded his workshop in 1849, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:33 | |
and they went right through to the 20th century | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
but they were well known as mechanical clock-makers. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
He then patented a singing bird, which he then became famous for. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:44 | |
In fact, he had all sorts of birds, including nightingales, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
and he made a beautiful clock for the Tsar of Russia in 1850, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
which had a lovely jewelled egg, which opened on the half hour to reveal a singing bird, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:59 | |
and this was echoed later in the century by Faberge. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
The part of it that's a mechanical clock - | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
its pendulum, if you like - is the little swinging cherub or putto. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
-Yes, yes. -It's absolutely wonderful. There's so much to see. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Yes, there is. I quite agree. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
Some of the colouring has gone, some of the feathers of the birds | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
have seen better days, but that's purely the daylight. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
-It's not even the sunshine. -No. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
-Shall we get it going? -Oh, yes, do. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
I think I've wound it already. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:32 | |
I know it worked before we came. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Oh, yes, the waterfall's working. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
They're very, very high-pitched. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
Yes. I was thrilled when we first... | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
when I first had it, sort of thing. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
Like, you know, it was something completely new. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
I think here there's a little bit of mirrored glass | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
-that he's pecking into to get some water. -Oh, yes. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
But it's been moved I think probably over the years it's got covered. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
-Unless he's after a worm. -And the swing is meant to be swinging. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
-Yes. Yes, I was going to say... -It's feeling its age. -Ahhh! | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
So I can stop it. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
What more can I say? | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
What do you think it's worth? | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
Oh, I don't know. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:22 | |
I've no idea because I haven't seen one actually valued anywhere. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
If you would go to the right person, place, dealer, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
say at an antiques fair, you would have to pay upwards of £10,000. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
Really?! Really?! | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
Goodness me! Oh, I had no idea it was that, no. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
-Shall we get it going again? -Oh, yes, yes, that would be nice. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
So you've sniffed out a nice little box for me here. What's inside? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Yes, this is a scent bottle. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
I'm not quite sure who the maker... | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Actually, it's a very nice box. Let's just have a look at the box | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
because we don't often get scent bottles in boxes like this, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
beautifully tooled leather. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
So you would expect, and you would hope, a quality item inside. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-What do you think this is? -I believe it could be Meissen. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
I'm not 100%. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Right. OK. Well, it certainly has the Meissen look. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
It's very finely modelled, very, very detailed. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
-Right. -The painting is good, you've got these flower-encrusted garlands. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
-Yeah. -And it sort of works in the round, it's quite nice, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
but what we want to see on the bottom is the Meissen crossed swords mark. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
And instead we have a spray of flowers. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
-And it's really the spray of flowers that gives it away. -Right. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
It's quite thin enamelling. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
-Right. -So, although it's very crisp and it's very competent, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
I'm going to have to say that is not Meissen. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Actually, the little garland is extremely well done. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
-When you think all those flowers are individually hand made. -Yeah. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
That's, you know, it's still a good factory, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
and it is actually late 19th century in its original box. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
I would say that in its box that's a desirable object. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
In the region of £400-£600. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
-Lovely. -Thank you. -Are you impressed by that, Hector? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
"I am." | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
He's probably more impressed by its former contents. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
Let's see whether he can detect... | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
-the smell. -Yes. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
He's not a bloodhound, is he? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
So here we have two fabulous watercolours, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
one which is signed F Stuart Richardson, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
the other which is unsigned, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
but you've also brought in | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
a very beautiful oil by the same artist. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Yes. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
Which has the artist's initials... | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
-here, and this is Frederick Stuart Richardson. -Yes. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
-Fascinating group of pictures by him. -Yes. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
And we hardly ever see works by him, so tell me a little bit about them. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
How have you come across them? | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
Well, he was my grandfather. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
They've come down through the family. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
And do you have other pictures? You must have others. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
Yes, actually the family have quite a lot, because he was very prolific. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
He never went anywhere without his paint and his easel and so on, ever. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:21 | |
I've a couple of photographs here, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
one which was taken when he was painting in Polperro. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
There he is. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
Painting. And the other is a couple of years later with him painting on the beach, when he was... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:34 | |
That's my grandmother, and this is my father here as a little baby. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
It was taken... must have been taken in 1913. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
Absolutely fascinating. And there he is, painting away, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
totally ignoring your father and grandmother. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-Absolutely, yes. -And there also seems to be a huge age difference. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-Tell me a bit of that. -There was. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Well, he was painting before that in Coverack in Cornwall, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
staying at the hotel, | 0:07:58 | 0:07:59 | |
and my grandmother visited with her older sister and niece. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
She was 26. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
She'd just come out of a long engagement to a doctor. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
She was upper-middle-class, careful not to marry into poverty, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
but the first day when she visited, he obviously liked her | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
because he leant out of the window and said, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
"Leicester are doing well in the cricket this season, aren't they?" But they hadn't been introduced, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:24 | |
so she didn't follow up the conversation. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
But a few days later on the beach, she did send the child over to see what he was painting and he said, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
"Well, if they want to know what I'm painting, they can come and see for themselves and ask me." | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
Then at the end of the fortnight, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
she went home and her father said, "How did your holiday go? | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
"More cheered up?" and she said, "Well, I got engaged." | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
And he said, "Engaged! Who to?" | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
and she said, "Well, an artist". | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
And he was quite shocked. "An artist?! Tell me about him." | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
She said, "Well, he's 56." | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
And she was 26 at the time, so he said, "Well, you can just get unengaged." | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
You know, it would be really frowned upon to marry a quite elderly artist. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:03 | |
Yes, absolutely. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:04 | |
Well, certainly a large age gap, and an artist who perhaps wasn't making a great deal of money... | 0:09:04 | 0:09:10 | |
-No. -Very, very interesting. I love the one of him also, Polperro... -Yes. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
..which connects to this picture... | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
-Yes. -..which is Polperro Harbour, which is a little bit later on, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
and this connects him also to Harold Knight and Dame Laura Knight, because they met at Staithes. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
Staithes. He was a member of the Staithes Group. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
-He travelled a great deal, didn't he? -Yes. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
And so The Mariner's Shop, which is beautifully detailed | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
and lots and lots of objects in here, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
this must have been influenced from his trip to Holland where he | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
must have met the Hague School - Joseph Israels and artists like that. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
Yes, he did, absolutely. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
And talking about the oil, which I think is an incredibly moody piece of painting. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
Yes. He was very good at cold, bleak seas. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
Some of his greatest paintings have been of stormy, bleak seas, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
not of what I call a "chocolate box" sea. He very rarely did those. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
In terms of value... | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
-It doesn't matter. -It doesn't matter cos they're family objects. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
-And I love them. -The little oil. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
-Yes? -I think is an absolute stunner, really beautiful. -Yes. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
-£2,000 to £3,000? -Oh, wow! Help! | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
The Mariner's Shop, absolutely gorgeous, easily £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
And the real stunner, you know, the larger watercolour beneath Polperro, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
-certainly £3,000 to £5,000. -Oh, dear. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
They're a terrific group and I love all your history. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
-Yes, thank you very much. -Thank you very much. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
You've come in with loads of Manchester United material. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Where did you get this incredible passion for collecting? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
Well, I've been a collector of Man United stuff | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
probably for about 40-odd years now. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
-Went to my first match back in the '70s. -Really? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Got the passion for it and just sort of collected from there. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Tell me, what's a Cornishman doing so far away from Manchester, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
supporting that club? | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
I think it was back in the George Best era, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
back at that time when they were doing really well. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
I hesitated about doing this because I'm a Sheffield United supporter. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
-Yes, don't worry about that. -But I think we both share | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
a love of George Best, because I grew up with him. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
He was a symbol of everything that was good and vigorous about English football. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
-Exactly. -What's the mainstay of the collection? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
Or have you got a bit of everything? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
I've got a bit of everything. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
-Programmes, scarves... -From right back to the early ages, right up to modern-day stuff. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
It's a club that goes back a long time. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
-Definitely, yeah. -The 1870s. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
Yeah, yeah. Well, this is one of the oldest things I've got. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
This is when they won their Division Two Championship back in '35-'36 season. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
-Yeah. -Signed by all the players. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
Yeah, here they all are, listed, their positions. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Their positions, yeah. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
Nice and complete and torn out of an autograph book. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
Exactly, yes. And it goes on to 1936-37 season, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
there's just a few autographs of that. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Yeah, I mean it's so rare to find the whole team | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
and it's nice to have the period sort of autograph album leaves. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
-Those are worth £500 to £800 each. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Easily, as an auction estimate, maybe they'd make more on the day. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
-What about this one? This is a photograph of Sir Matt Busby. -Yeah. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
-He joined the club after the war. -Yeah, from Man City. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Oh, really? Right. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
This would be worth maybe £200 or £300, something like that. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
And of course it was a period that had its fair share of tragedy. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
Yeah, then it goes on to the Busby Babes and the Munich air disaster. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
This album here, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
all of Munich. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
-Right, right. -And it's signed by the complete team of the Busby Babes. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
Duncan Edwards you've got there. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
Yeah. Where's he? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
Dennis Viollet. Duncan Edwards is here look, the big man on the end. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
The terrible date was February 1958. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
-Exactly, yeah, 50 years. -When of course the plane went down in Munich and eight of the lads were lost. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
-Exactly, yeah. -Some survived, including Bobby Charlton. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
-Sir Bobby, yeah. -Of course, I mean it makes these incredibly rare and of course very, very collectable. -Yes. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:08 | |
I mean, I've sold these at auction in the past, but this is lovely. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
It's complete and a little bit of brown Sellotape but we'd be looking | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
at £1,500, £2,000 as an auction estimate just for this page. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
Yeah. There's quite a few pages like that in there, signed. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
And of course it's the '60s when I was born, that I remember perhaps the greatest player, George Best. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:31 | |
Yeah, it goes on to George Best. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:32 | |
I've got a couple of shirts on by George here, got them signed. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
Let's have a look at it. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:37 | |
Met George a few times, got his shirts signed by him and bits and pieces. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
Here we are, "Best wishes, George". | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
Does that say "Best"? It's not too clear. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
It does, just, yeah. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
I mean, obviously, poor old George, he's gone, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
but £500-£800 minimum for that. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
I think even what I've seen here, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
we must be looking at least... | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
sort of £20,000 or £30,000, if not more. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Yeah. This is only a third of what I've got, really. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
Oh, you've got more? I thought this was it. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
-Thank you very much, a privilege to see it. -Thank you. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
This is a very important part of Cornish history, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
and you are the team rector here at the parish church at Lanhydrock. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
Tell me about this. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
Well, this is the casket or reliquary of St Petroc | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
and it contained the skull of St Petroc, or the bones of St Petroc, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
and as such is a very important part of Cornish history. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
He's the patron saint of Cornwall. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
-Well, he's the chief saint of Cornwall. -The chief saint. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
That's important to say that, and he came from Wales. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
We think he was of royal heritage, from the royal family in Wales, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
in around about 600AD. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
The origin of this casket really goes back to about 1177, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
where the bones were stolen by a monk called Martin | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
who had a row with the prior and ran off with the bones to Brittany. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
Oh, dear! That's not very monk-like behaviour! Not very Christian. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
Not at all. And Henry II got involved in all this, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
and he was instrumental in getting the bones back again, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
and this casket was chosen as the thing to put them in. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
This casket is ivory and you were telling me that underneath, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
because it's rather bleached here. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
-It is, yes. -I don't dare lift it. Do you dare lift it? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
I can lift it. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
-OK, so let's have a look. -And underneath you'll see some rather... | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
-Oh, I see. -You see you've still got the colours whereas the top one... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Yes, yes, it's all bleached on the top. Here, let's put it back. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
And are the bones still inside? | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
-Unfortunately not, no. -No? Well, let's have a look. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Let's see, oh. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Very disappointing, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
it's polystyrene to keep the whole thing in shape so it's not distorted. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
So what happened to the bones? | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
Nobody really knows, but probably at the Reformation it was felt wrong to be venerating bones and so on. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:09 | |
-Goodness me. -And Henry VIII's gang probably chucked them somewhere. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
So it's just a bit of what, holy dust in there now? | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
There's a bit of holy dust in there, yeah. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Ah, yes, that's good to hear. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
So these are Cornish surfers? | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Well, that's how we refer to them, because we don't know... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
they look a bit like it, yes. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
-And that's the surfboard? -Yes. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
-OK so that would make this a Cornish flagon. -Oh, I wouldn't say that. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
What would you say? Tell me how you got it. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Well, it's my aunt's. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
She's had it in her house and we looked at it and admired it lots of times. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
-Yes. -She tells us she acquired it in...late 1940s, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
when she opened a restaurant and she was looking for things to dress the restaurant. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
With a sort of Cornish style, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
with these...these surfing gentlemen. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
Well, yes, now we're in Cornwall, you see that's our explanation. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
I'm going to take you a little bit further afield than Cornwall. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
-Yes. -First of all, this painting style is absolutely typically Dutch. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
-Right. -OK? But we have to go even further afield than Holland. -Right. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
-Because the people who painted this were actually living in Japan. -Right. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
And the Dutch were trading with Japan in, let's say, the 1660s, 1680s, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
and sending out to Japan Dutch imitations of Chinese landscapes. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:30 | |
-Right. -So this was actually made in Japan, in the late 17th century, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
copying a Dutch idea of Chinese people in the late 17th century. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:42 | |
It's a rare object, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
-probably worth between £1,000 and £2,000. -That?! | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
Worth £1,000 to £2,000? No! | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
Oh, my aunt's going to be delighted, isn't she? | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
She's not going to believe that. I shall have to have that in writing before she'll believe it. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
Now we're sitting here making a television programme, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
everybody knows that, but what interests me is that while you and I know what we're doing here, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
we're suddenly taken into a very important part of television history. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
These are pictures of the Christmas broadcast, Sandringham 1957. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
Now that was the first time the Queen did it on television. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
-That's right, yes. -The Christmas broadcast hitherto had a long tradition of being on the radio. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
-That's right. -Suddenly there it is and of course in the technology of the time it was live, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
-she had to do it almost as you and I are doing it here. -That's right, yes. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
So what are these to you? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:48 | |
Well, it's part of the history of my father. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
He was the superintendent of lighting for outside broadcasts | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
for the BBC during the '50s and the early '60s. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
-So a very important person. -Yes, he was. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
I think he was a specialist in the art of television lighting | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
and there were very few of that skill around at the time. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
And also outside broadcast then was very little used. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
-It was always live. -And always live, yes. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
So he was there, these were his sets. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
He actually chose the Queen's dress as well, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
and set the set up so it would appear proper when you actually watched it on the television. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:21 | |
Television was in black and white in those days. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
Today we see in colour but in those days it was about tones rather than colours | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
and dresses that might be the right colour might be the wrong tone for black and white television. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
So he said, "I'm sorry, ma'am, you can't wear that." | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
-He did, he did. -A very tough man, obviously. -Yes, yes. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
And then who took the photographs? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
The ones of Prince Charles and Princess Anne were by my father, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
and other members of the crew would have taken some of the background pictures | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
but it was my father that took all these pictures here. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
-So he was the cameraman in a sense of recording a scene? -He was, yes. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
So there we have the Queen, on that occasion, 1957. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
-Yes. -Wearing the dress that he chose and so he was there, snapping away, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
without any sort of... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
Without any prohibition at all, he was a very lucky person. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-No royal protocol? -No. -So that's...obviously that... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
-Is this him? -That's him taken just after the war. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
So what was he like? | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
He was a very talented person, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
a lot of personality and quite a grumpy old man in many respects. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
And on the set here, the Queen didn't actually know his name, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
and one of the assistants, when asked his name, was told, "Oh, that's Mr Grumps" | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
and we actually had a Christmas card from the Queen to "Mr Grumps". | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
-But what actually was his name? -Harold Mayhew. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Here we have Princess Anne and Prince Charles learning to be cameramen. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
-Yes, but they didn't take the trade up. -Oh, what a pity! | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
-They might have had a new profession! -You never know. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
So then this is...different dress. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
That would be the 1958 broadcast. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
I think it was a very impressive, exciting part of television history | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
and these very much bring it to life. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
It's obviously very personal to you, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
-have any of these ever been published? -No, they haven't. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
-So we are seeing them for the first time? -For the first time anywhere. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
So the Royal Family doesn't know about them? | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
I have a feeling that the Royal Family has a set of these pictures here, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
I think my father did present them to them. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
-So buried in the royal archives. -Yes. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:18 | |
-But otherwise they're unknown images. -Unknown, yes. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
We've got lots of things here. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
We've got television history, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
we've got Royal Family in a very intimate and informal way, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
we've got wonderful records of a period which, as you said, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
is now so far away we forget how difficult it was to do that. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
So we've got this very exciting archive. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
-The copyright certainly rests with you. -Oh, that's interesting to know. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
So they're your images. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
They're going to be £1,500 to £2,000. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
-Really? I'm very surprised. -Oh, yes. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
-That's grand. -And possibly more. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
-Well. -So it's a good legacy. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:57 | |
It is. I'd like to keep them. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
After all, what would Christmas be without the Royal broadcast? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-Wouldn't be Christmas. -Not at all. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Now we're leaving Cornwall, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
and heading back to glorious Bodnant Garden in North Wales, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
where even the green-fingered staff | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
have dug up some treasure for our experts. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
So here we are at Bodnant in Wales with a view of Knole in Kent. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
-How come? -Well, I'm head gardener here at Bodnant now, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
but prior to my position here, I was gardener at Sissinghurst, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
and Sissinghurst was the home of Vita Sackville-West | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
and her birthplace was Knole, so hence the connection. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
Vita didn't inherit Knole, as it passed through the male line, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
so she bought Sissinghurst nearby to Knole in Kent. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
I mean, how did you get this? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
Nigel Nicolson, Vita and Harold's son, was clearing out the attic, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
and he asked me and a couple of gardeners | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
to help him carry things out and put everything into a skip. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
And he said, "Anything you want, take it away." | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
There was lots of stuff but this particular painting caught my eye. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
Very, very nice. Well, I actually know this artist who painted this called Frank Moss Bennett. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:14 | |
Now he specialised in doing historical genre paintings | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
and he was born in the 1870s and his great period was 1920s, '30s, '40s. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
They did loads of prints of his work and his usual subject matter are Elizabethan interiors | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
-with people wearing their wigs, very grand interiors. -Right. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
Because that's what people liked to collect in the 1940s, '50s, '60s. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
And here he's gone to Knole, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
and actually done a study of the interior of one of the main rooms. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
Is this unusual, then, an interior from...? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
-It's not unusual, it's unusual to have it without figures. -I see, yes. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
I know this is just one of his studies, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
and I'd think that Vita probably kept this | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
because he would have gone and made lots of studies in the interior. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
-Yes. -And I expect she said, "Oh, I really like that, can I keep that?" | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
I'm sure. That's why it was there. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
Well, Vita loved, she loved Knole, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
She was really upset she couldn't inherit the place. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
And I just love the early tapestry here and then you've got the ebonised | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
cabinet here with the vases, fantastic detail. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
Well, it's in the original frame, this ebonised-type frame. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
-Right. -It's not in great condition and it's oil on canvas board, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
that is canvas laid onto board. It's wonderful. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Value-wise, it does have a value even though it's just a study by him, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
-and I'd say somewhere in the region of about £1,200 to £1,800. -Is it? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
Yeah, now I'll tell you, if it had had figures in it, this size, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
-it would have been £4,000 to £6,000. -Interesting! | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
But I prefer it without the figures. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Well, I love it like this, yes. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
Well, this is an intriguing collection that we have here, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
some enamelled buttons with a name on, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
"E Tusker", a photograph, an enchanting casket | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
with a fabulous inscription on the top. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
What's the connection and who is the lady in the photograph? | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Well, the lady in the photograph is my mother, and she was born in 1890, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:12 | |
and this photograph is of her at the age of 19 or 20, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
when she would have been attending the Birmingham School of Art | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
and learning to make jewellery, leatherwork, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
enamelling, and all those things. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
Excellent. And did she make this box then? | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
-She did, yes. -Gosh. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
-And she sent it in for a competition and won a prize. -And the prize was? | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
I really don't know, probably be a small sum of money, I should think. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
-How wonderful, and so that would have helped her to make more jewellery, I imagine. -Yes. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:42 | |
And on the front and the top here we've got an inscription | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-and it says, "It's not what I have but what I do is my kingdom." -Yes. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
And then inside, if we have a look, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
we have some more pieces of jewellery which I am assuming she made. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
-Yes. -Is that correct? -Yes, yes, she made all of them. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
And particularly lovely, particularly the colour, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
-vibrant, strong purples, greens. -That's right. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
And it's quite a strong message on the front of the casket as well and these colours were associated, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
-of course, with the Suffragette Movement. -Yes, so I've learned. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
-Yes. -And that's quite interesting because her elder sister | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
was very much involved in the Suffragette Movement. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
So possibly the influence has come from... | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
-So she might have suggested it. -She may indeed. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
Yes, definitely, because of course people say that the colours green, white and violet | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
-were associated with "Give Women the Vote." -That's right. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
And so consequently there's a hidden message, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
as there often is in jewellery, you know, whether it be romantic, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
-or in this aspect, a political nature. -Yes. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
I've never known that before today. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Right, excellent. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
So really pretty, made with enamels, silver, opal, little amethyst | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
and some white seed pearls, very delicate in that respect. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
-And it's a great reflection of how the Arts and Crafts Movement was working at the time. -Yes. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:02 | |
From about 1890 into the early part of the 20th century, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
using very basic materials to bring a hand-crafted look back to jewellery, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
which is excellent and very much led by makers such as Arthur Gaskin | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
and influenced by Burne-Jones. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
But there's another necklace which I think is absolutely exquisite, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
-and do you wear this at all? -Yes, I wear it a lot. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
-Yes. -And my mother explained | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
that they have to make every single little bit of gold chain themselves. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
-Exactly. -With all those little wheels and things. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
Part of the Arts and Crafts Movement was that you were making everything by hand. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
What's interesting about this piece is that it's with gold, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
and normally it's more of the Art Nouveau period, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
which was working alongside the Arts and Crafts period, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
that was working with gold and finer quality pieces. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
So it's absolutely amazing how delicate all these tiny little links are. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
And the patience that she must have had | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
to produce the pieces of jewellery. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
It's quite fabulous indeed. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
A lovely selection, obviously sentimentally | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
it's worth a huge amount to you, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
and really something that would work exceptionally well within a museum. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
If we were to put a value on it, then I think | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
as a collection if it was sold at auction, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
you'd perhaps be looking at somewhere between £1,500 and £2,000. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
Oh, good gracious! | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Well, she would have been amazed. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
-I'm sure. -She lived until she was 96, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
-but she wouldn't have had any idea about that at all. -No, no. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
DEEP GONG | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
Mysterious sound of the Far East. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
What a fabulous gong, where did you get it from? | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
Well, it's been in the family since we were children. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
It belonged to my grandmother and we've always lived with it, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
but apart from that I know absolutely nothing. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
-No, and a real spider trap, yeah, and dust trap. -Definitely, yes. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
-But do you like it? -I do, it's very bizarre, but yes, I love it. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
I can tell you where it's from, because it actually says on the back. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
-Oh, can you? Oh, I've never noticed! -I'm glad I've got a job! | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Yeah it's signed Klier and Co, Rangoon. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
-Really? -Klier and Co would be not the makers, but the retailers, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
and Rangoon of course is in Burma. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
-Gosh. -Yeah, but I knew it was Burmese, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
because look at how lively the carving is. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
It's made of teak wood and the gong is obviously bronze, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
but it's so active. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
Of course, the piece is centred by this beautifully carved, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
crisp opening lotus blossom, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
the very symbol of Buddhism, the symbol of The Buddha. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
And of course the Burmese practiced a type of Buddhism, Theravada Buddhism, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:34 | |
which was of course rolled into their local interest | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
in the natural spirits of the forest and the landscape. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
-I've always been intrigued by the paintings. -Yes, it's lovely. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
Now these are spirits or devas as they were called, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
and you find figures like this in palace carvings - | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
around the doorways of Buddhist temples or palace complexes. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
It's almost certainly made for the tourist market, | 0:29:56 | 0:30:02 | |
-in and around 1890-1900. -Gosh. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
It's a beauty. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
Value, my own thought, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
-a very healthy £500 worth of carving. -Oh, right. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
Well, thanks so much for bringing it in. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
Oh, it's been a pleasure. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
We've enjoyed seeing your gong go. Thank you. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Well, you've brought me two really interesting objects here. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
The first is a book of the "Gwynidion, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
"or an Account of the Royal Denbigh Eisteddfod held in September 1828." | 0:30:32 | 0:30:38 | |
Yes. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
Now, you're talking to an Englishman in Wales. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
-I take it you're a Welshman. -Very much so, yes. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
So you're going to have to tell me a little bit about what the Eisteddfod is, or what the Eisteddfod was. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:52 | |
Well, the Eisteddfod as an institution is the most important thing in the Welsh life. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:58 | |
The culture encompasses literature, art, music, drama, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:04 | |
all that sort of thing and periodically Eisteddfodi are held. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
They are gatherings of people who compete. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
-Right. -It's an annual thing which takes place every August. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
Right, and is it something that goes back a very long way? | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
A very long time. The earliest Eisteddfod was in the 12th century. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
So this gathering in 1828 in Denbigh was part of a very long tradition? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
Oh, indeed. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:29 | |
The other thing you've brought here is a medal which I'm assuming | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
-must be one of the prizes won at the Eisteddfod in 1828. -Yes. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
Of course I don't read Welsh, but I can make out the words "Eisteddfod" | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
-and "Dinbych". -Yes. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
How would I pronounce that? Denbigh? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
Dinbych is the Welsh word for Denbigh, yes. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
This particular medal was awarded for a particular form of poetry called an Englyn. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:56 | |
How do you say that? Englyn? | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
Englyn is a four-line stanza. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
In this instance, the title was "Awyren". | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
-Awyren in present day terms means an aeroplane but of course... -1828? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:10 | |
Because of course there were no aeroplanes at that time, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
but it referred then to a balloon. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
It's a beautiful object in its own right, and turning it over there's | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
this really breathtaking image. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
I think it's so beautiful. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
I guess I'm hoping that the account of the Royal Denbigh Eisteddfod | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
will have a copy of the poem in it. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
-Does it contain the poem itself? -It does, yes. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
I wonder if you'd do us the honour of reading it to us. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Certainly. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:36 | |
Awyren, belen, glud bali, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
drwy chwa, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
Derch hynt hyd wybreni | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
Nwyf wib long, bau nawf, heb li, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
A llaw dyn yn llyw dani. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
-Of course this medal must be entirely unique. -Oh, it is. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
And therefore of course it has to have some kind of commercial value. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
I wouldn't be at all surprised if these two items together | 0:33:06 | 0:33:11 | |
brought £1,000. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
-That's a lot more than I paid for it. -I'm very pleased to hear that. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
-Thank you. -So it is good news. -Yes. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
I looked at this and I thought, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
oh, could it be worse? | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
and then I thought, well, I don't know actually, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
who would come up with a colour combination of duck-egg blue and this pinky colour? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:41 | |
And then to mount them with deer heads in biscuit and antlers | 0:33:41 | 0:33:48 | |
and wild boar and lurcher dogs and retrievers, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:54 | |
and then set them on a Chinese carved wood base! | 0:33:54 | 0:34:01 | |
But it isn't, it's all porcelain, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
gilded and picked out in black. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
The thing is extraordinary | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
and the more you look at it, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
the more interesting it becomes. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
Did you inherit these or buy them? | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
I bought them about 15 years ago at an antiques fair in Buxton. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:25 | |
And I saw them, and just fell in love with them. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
What particularly appealed to you about them? | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
Where I walk my dog there's a deer park and we've always had dogs and... | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
Ah, right. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
-OK. -The whole combination. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
OK. Did they tell you what they were when you bought them? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
Um, late 19th century, Parisian. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
OK, half right. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
I go along with the Parisian. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
I think they're pretty definitely Paris porcelain, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
but I would put them rather earlier than late 19th century. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
The way they've picked out the details here, in black, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:10 | |
was a very short-lived thing | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
and it's characteristically around the 1860s | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
and the whole thing is kicked off | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
by Queen Victoria and Prince Albert at Balmoral. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
You can imagine these sitting in Balmoral with the hunting | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and the shooting and the fishing, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
absolutely would fit perfectly and that's what's going on here. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
Now, combining biscuit porcelain, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
that is porcelain without a glaze on it, and glazed porcelain, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:48 | |
here painted with flowers, can work extraordinarily well, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
and it does here. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
I think it's very, very good, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:55 | |
and I would take a fair bet that these are 1862. | 0:35:55 | 0:36:03 | |
-An exhibition piece for the 1862 Exhibition. -Really? | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
Yeah, I think that's what they are. London. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
If you didn't like them, you could grow to like them, I think. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
-I've always adored them. -Well, I can absolutely see why. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
I don't normally go for this sort of thing, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
but these really do kind of work for me. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
-Um, what did you pay for them? -£3,900. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
Right. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:31 | |
I think if we found these in the catalogue of the exhibition, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:37 | |
which I think we just might, you'd be looking at | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
£4,000 to £6,000 without any trouble, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
so I think you did very well indeed. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
-Thank you. -Don't be tempted to break the dogs off and sell them separately. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
-Certainly not. -Thank you. -Thank you, David. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
This is not silver, it's actually electroplated, so why am I interested | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
in a fish serving knife with a bit of seaweed engraved on the back? | 0:37:03 | 0:37:09 | |
Well, the answer is, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
turn it over. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
It has some of the finest engraving I've ever seen on electroplate. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
In fact, it ranks among some of the best engraving I've seen on silver. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
This is absolutely beautifully done. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
So what do you know about its past? | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
Well, in about 1952, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
I bought it in a little junk shop in Wallasey for 30 shillings. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:37 | |
-That's not a bad buy. -Wasn't it? | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
Well, I think that this slice, together with its fork, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
actually tell a story. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
And if this was an oil painting, I think it would be entitled "The Fisherman's Return" | 0:37:47 | 0:37:53 | |
because on the blade here we've got I think the fisherman's wife looking rather pensive, rather doleful, | 0:37:53 | 0:38:01 | |
and fish in a basket at the bottom, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
and if we look at the fork, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
there's the husband out at sea in the sailing boat doing the fishing, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
and she's waiting for him to come back. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
-Yes. -But what I find absolutely astonishing about these pieces | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
is that they're such wonderful quality. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
They've got big ivory handles on the end. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
Why did they make them in electroplate, rather than in silver? | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
-So, 30 shillings in 1952, I don't know what that equates to in today's money. -No. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:32 | |
But all I can say is that this is really a work of art. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
-This is such superb quality. -Really? | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
That I would think a pair of fish servers of this quality | 0:38:41 | 0:38:47 | |
are probably £400-£500 the pair. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
Good gracious! Oh. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
-I think they are absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. -I don't believe it! Oh! | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
-And the quality of that workmanship is as good as anything I've seen for a long, long time. -Brilliant. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:03 | |
Well, the last time I saw beautifully detailed little models like this, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
was when I went to see a friend who was a sea cadet | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
and I remember in one of their cupboards, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
he showed me some beautiful little wooden models of ships. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
Now I always thought they were for recognition purposes, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
for the Admiralty, but tell me more about them. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
Well, these models, the top ones, were made for Winston Churchill | 0:39:30 | 0:39:36 | |
by Bassett-Lowke in 1942, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
after the Navy had lost a number of ships bombed by the RAF. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:46 | |
And he decided, we've got to stop this, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
we're going to have to teach our aircrews how to spot a German boat, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
a British boat and an American boat. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Because of course from the air, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
ship recognition must have been terribly difficult. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
-Exactly. -To identify a ship. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
And do you know if they then went into production of these prototypes? | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
They did, yes. I'm told that Churchill was thrilled by these, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
and he then instructed Bassett-Lowke to make a quantity, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
so that they could be sent to various places where they'd had problems. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
Now of course Bassett-Lowke was very famous for steam locomotives, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:27 | |
-for model steam engines. -Exactly. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
And trains, train sets, that sort of thing. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
But I'm fascinated by what your father did. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
What was he doing in the firm of Bassett-Lowke? | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
-My father was Bassett-Lowke's best friend. -Right. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
-And they travelled the world together. -Right. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
And I have here Bassett-Lowke's sort of signature, really, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
which he took around the world, showing people, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
wherever they went, he said "I can make the best models in the world". | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
But this is a watch case, a pocket watch case. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
Yes, and in there is the Golden Hind. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
Good heavens! Isn't that astonishing? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
-Yes. -So Bassett-Lowke were well known for producing these, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
-these wonderfully detailed waterline models. -Exactly. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
Originally in seasoned lime wood, which is beautiful for carving. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:18 | |
It's got a fantastic grain. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
And because these ships were hand-built in wood, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:27 | |
they were incredibly expensive. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
And these boats were the initial... | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
-Prototypes. -Prototypes, exactly, which Bassett-Lowke and my father | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
took to the Admiralty and this is literally the originals. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
I wonder if Churchill himself actually looked at this very case? | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
-Oh, definitely, definitely. -Isn't that astonishing? | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Well, you've got military ships here of course, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
but the bottom case looks like a history of shipping. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
Tell me all about that. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:55 | |
In the early '50s it was decided that they would like to produce | 0:41:55 | 0:42:00 | |
a unique set of models all to the same scale, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
one inch to a hundred feet. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
-Right. -And every model there is made to that specification. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
There are only two sets of these made. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
One is in the museum in Northampton and the other one is here. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
Is right here. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:21 | |
Well, I feel rather privileged to be looking at it, in that case. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
After the war the Admiralty of course had no more use | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
-for these recognition models. -No, no. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
So, I suppose the end of the 1940s I think it was, they sold them, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:37 | |
they sold them to the public, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
and they do turn up from time to time at auction, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
very seldom I have to say, and a model warship, a wooden model hand-painted warship | 0:42:42 | 0:42:50 | |
today at auction can fetch sometimes up to £100. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
Now what does that mean for the prototypes? | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
I mean, heavens, what an incredibly difficult thing to put a value on, I have to say. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
That's why we're here, you know! | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
-Um, I would say, and I'm going to take the whole lot as a collection. -A package. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
A package if you like, including the pocket watch, that from an historical point of view is just astounding, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:17 | |
and therefore commercially I think you'd be looking at £10,000 to £15,000. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
Really? That is a figure which would glow in my father's heart. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:27 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:30 | |
Some wonderful items there from two beautiful gardens, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
and despite the weather forecast and my Mac, the sun stayed out for us too. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
From all the team, bye bye. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
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