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I'm going to start this programme with a little bit of an apology. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
You see, it's been 15 years since we last came to Guernsey, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
and our Channel crossing is long overdue, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
so time to make up for lost time now. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Guernsey seems such a tranquil island, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
a place surrounded by such calm waters | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
that it's easy to forget its turbulent past. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
But a huge network of fortifications, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
built from medieval to Napoleonic times, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
stand testament to over 600 years of conflict with nearby France. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Guernsey fought off all attempts by the French to capture the island, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
but nothing could stop the onslaught of the Nazis. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
On the afternoon of June 28th 1940, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
six bombers from Hitler's Luftwaffe attacked Jersey and Guernsey. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Like the rest of the Channel Islands, Guernsey was completely defenceless. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
When the German invasion force landed, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
islanders had no choice but to surrender. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
One of Hitler's first acts was to fortify the island | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
with vast concrete gun emplacements and observation towers. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
It feels quite eerie to be stood here by one of these concrete monoliths | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
and though they may scar the beautiful coastline here, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
it seems only fitting that they should remain | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
as a reminder of a bleak period in this island's history. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
These German building works | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
were coordinated from a French-style chateau in Saumarez Park. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
It had been commandeered by the German Labour Corps, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
who stripped it of its fine furniture and fittings. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
Today, in these more peaceful times, it's a residential home | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
in the heart of one of the island's most popular parks. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
And plenty of people have turned out to see us, I'm glad to say. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
So over to our experts. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
I can see you're a wine drinker. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
-Yes, indeed. -Do you have wine out of here ever? | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
No, I haven't done, because I haven't had any claret. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
-I think you're permitted to put something else in, if you want to. -That's a good idea. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
-Yes. -Yeah, I think you must. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
It's such a beautiful object. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
I was immediately taken by this glass | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
and the way it's been cut, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
-and this is called rock crystal engraving. -Oh. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
And it was a technique which was done largely in Stourbridge, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
-just south of Birmingham. -Yes. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
Many factories could have done it, but Webb is a strong contender. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
Dates from the last years of the 19th century, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
or the early 20th century. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
In fact, these ran up to the '30s. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
It's been mounted in what we call parcel-gilt, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
which means that it's silver which has had gold onto it. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
-In places, not all over. -Hmm-mm. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
And we can get the date of it from the date letter here, which is 1900. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:55 | |
Oh, I'd never noticed that. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
Ah, you see, that's why we're here. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
Now, I want to know... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
did you buy it, for a start? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
-Yes. -And what did you pay for it? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
I can't remember whether it was £70 or £700. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
-Really? Now, wait a minute... -It was a long time ago! | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
..if I give you an IOU, this could be money in this somewhere. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
Very interesting. How long ago? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
15 years ago. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
At £70, it would have been seriously cheap, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
unless you were really very lucky. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
-So I think you must have paid £700 for it. -Hmm. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
Well, what's it worth today? | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Yes. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
The real wine buffs are... decanting wine. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:45 | |
They don't need to decant wine, because it's not throwing a sediment | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
but they're decanting it | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
because it shows off the colour of the wine so well. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
So you take it out of that dark bottle | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
and you pour it into here, | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
and the colour absolutely comes to life, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
-particularly with rock crystal engraving. -Oh. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
Your smart claret drinker is going to want that | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
and he's going to pay for it. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
He would, you know, this is a top-of-the-range model, almost. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Um, I think that would make somewhere around £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
-Wow! -You did all right. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Wow! I sure did. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
The jewellery, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
the lady wearing one of the pieces of jewellery, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
who was she? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
She was, er, Doris Clapham | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
and she was one of the original Tiller Girls | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
in the beginning of the century, taken in by my grandmother. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
-Right, right. -Because she didn't get on with her step-mother. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Oh, interesting, interesting. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
-What made her become a Tiller Girl, all those years back? -Well, I think she was a dancer. -Yes. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:58 | |
When she left home, I suppose it was one way to earn a living. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Apparently, the early ones nearly all married into the aristocracy. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
Oh, really? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
And she married Fred Day of Francis, Day & Hunter, music publishers. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
He went to see her every night when she was a Tiller Girl. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
They got married and lived a very high life after that. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
What year did she get married, then? | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
-Er, 9...8...1912. -1912. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-1912. -Yes, because that's her diamond wedding. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
All right, the brooch that she's wearing here, in the painting, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
is this brooch here, made in platinum, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
in around about 1925. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Diamonds, and look at the very white diamonds here, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
in two-row formation, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
in little borders of what are called calibre-cut sapphires. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
-Baton-shaped sapphires. -Yes. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
But this is a really pretty brooch, wearable. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
These two pieces here are not in the painting, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
so what do we know about these? | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
They were given to her by her husband Fred, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
and apparently she lost the bracelet | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
at some point when they were in Paris. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-Oh, really? -And he had another one made. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
The bracelet itself has got a highly technical name | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
that we describe these, which is called Tutti Frutti. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
-Tutti Frutti, yes. -Quite clearly, you can see they are a pair. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Now, these are later than the brooch. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
These were probably made in around about 1935 | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
and they are a tour de force | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
-of colourful, bold, strong, society jewellery. -Yes. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
And the gems themselves are interesting because, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
when you look closely, you will see that they're carved leaves. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
They carved leaves here of emeralds, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
rubies and sapphires, in diamond frames. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
-Tutti Frutti, would you not agree, is very descriptive? -Yes. -Hmm. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:00 | |
Let's move on to... some prices for you. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
Well, the painting itself, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
let me explain, I know NOTHING about pictures, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
but I'm reliably informed by my colleagues that it's painted by a man called Cooper, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
who was a society painter in the '20s and '30s, which figures. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
-Hmm, yes. -That's what we see here. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Now, the painting is damaged. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
It's severely suffering from flaking here, caused by damp. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
Apparently, I'm told it's worth £400 to £500. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
The jewels themselves... | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
The diamond and sapphire brooch with its strength, its power, its beauty, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
I suppose if I were selling that today - £6,000 to £8,000. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
I think for that grouping, that style, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:45 | |
-I'm thinking about £20,000 to £30,000. -Hmm. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
It's beautiful. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
You can imagine that when she went on holiday to Vienna - | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
they used to spend a lot of time at Vienna - | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
she probably travelled with all this. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
Well, there she was, style, panache. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
She was a woman with individuality, with jewellery to match. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
Well, we've done a number of dressers on the Roadshow | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
over the last 25, 30 years, but none better than this base. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
This is an extremely interesting base, from my point of view. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
-It's got cabriole legs, which is the most desirable type, OK. -Mm. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
And we can put it round about 1735 to 1770. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Difficult to be more precise because they made them in the country the same way. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
Once a fashion had come in, it tended to stay. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
We can tell also that it's western seaboard. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
So not necessarily a Welsh dresser, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
but certainly up from there going north, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
Chester, way up on the western seaboard. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
And that's usually denoted | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
by this type of mahogany crossbanding around an oak drawer. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
Got nice little details, a little extra curl here, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
which was an overhang, really, from 1710s, 1720s, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
and an overhanging drawer front. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
All these little details go to confirm that sort of period. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
So if we say mid-18th century, it's pretty safe. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
-That's the base part. That's the valuable bit. -Right. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
This is later. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
This is nothing to do with it, originally. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
A pair of old doors, nice doors here, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
and this part is not as old as the doors. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
So we have a dresser base, which is valuable in its own right | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
and a later adaption of a top, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
which adds utility value to it, but not commercial. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
If this were on the market you'd take that bit away, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
and probably hang it on the wall as a separate item, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
and sell that part, which is the valuable bit. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
-Good heavens. -Now, I'm interested because it's quite insecure. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
I mean, it's probably screwed to the base. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
But an original one would have a retaining moulding around. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
It wouldn't just sit, plonked on the top. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
So is this where you screw it back to the wall | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
for security or something like that? | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
No, that has an interesting history, actually. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
The dresser belonged to my grandparents, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
who left the island hurriedly in June 1940, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
and when they came back five years later, they discovered that, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
like many local houses, theirs had been requisitioned by the Germans, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
and they found that somebody had taken a pot shot | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
at the quails in that picture. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
-This plate? -Yes. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
I think it's cloisonne, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
-and because of that, they knew it wouldn't break. -Good Lord. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
They could have gone mad and smashed all the other ones, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
but they just chose that plate, because you can see the two corresponding bullet holes. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
-These are actual bullet holes? -Yes. Yes. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
I've never been able to find the bullets, sadly. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Look at...now! | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
If we were on a crime TV series, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
we'd get a rod and we could tell at what angle they were - | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
were they standing up or sitting down? | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
-Absolutely. -Ttfff! | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
I've always believed that they were two bored Germans, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
sitting one winter's evening in chairs either side of the room, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
-and one took a shot at the quail from one angle... -Yeah. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
..and the other, from the other. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
-Fantastic! -Both missed. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
-They missed the quail. -Yes. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
Well, I... That's a unique story. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
There's nothing like that I've ever encountered. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
All I can tell you is this part, this bit, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
-is probably worth between £4,000 and £6,000 as it is. -Good heavens! | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
That part is priceless. Absolutely priceless. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
Well, you are Lord de Saumarez | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
and we're standing here in Saumarez Park, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
which you know very well, don't you? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Yes, it's the old family seat | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
that my grandfather sold in 1936 to the States. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
And you've brought along today an interesting sword. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Something that, actually, I recognise | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
and I recognise it by this incredibly distinctive grip, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
the hilt, in the form of a crocodile. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
I recognise this as a copy of the sword | 0:13:05 | 0:13:11 | |
that was presented to Nelson | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
to commemorate the victory at the Battle of the Nile. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
Now, after the Battle of the Nile, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
-his captains met on Saumarez's ship, the Orion. -That's right. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:27 | |
And they decided to invite Nelson to accept a sword, paid for by them, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:34 | |
and a portrait that they were going to have painted later. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
I don't think that ever happened. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
I don't think it did. They also inaugurated the Egyptian Club. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
-The Egyptian Club, sometimes called the Crocodile Club. -Yes. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
And this sword is one of the swords | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
that some of the captains had made for them afterwards. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Nelson had the original, which was made in gold, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
and then his prize agent | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
arranged for several copies for the senior captains, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
of which I guess your ancestor would be one, Saumarez would be one, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:09 | |
to have some copies made in gilded brass and this is - | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
and I can't believe I'm actually holding it - | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
this is Saumarez's actual sword. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
It is, and I believe it's one of the few still in the possession | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
-of the family of one of the Band of Brothers. -Because many of the others were sold, of course. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
Let's take a look at this sword. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
The hilt is made in the form of a crocodile | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
because of the Nile crocodiles, and there's an oval plaque here | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
that says "Victory of the Nile, 1st August 1798" | 0:14:38 | 0:14:46 | |
and that was the date, of course, of the great victory over the French. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
And on the other side... | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
..it says - I can't quite read that. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
-What does it say? -"Captain James Saumarez, His Majesty's Ship Orion". | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
He was second in command at the Battle of the Nile. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
-So he was Nelson's deputy, if you like? -Yes, yes. -How astonishing! | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
Now, I wonder what the blade is like? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
Let's just take this... My goodness, that's stiff! | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Aah! Good. Can I ask you to hold that? | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
That's a beautiful blade. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
Now, if we turn it this way, we can see that, originally, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
this would have been blued and gilded, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
which is, which would be sumptuous, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
beautiful blueing and gilding. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
We can just see traces of the blueing and gilding left. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
We've got a crown there, the King's crown, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
and GR for George, George III of course, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
and that's the period that this sword was made in. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
But it's a fabulous piece. It's a really, really fantastic item. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
And it does actually have quite a significant value. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:55 | |
Not many of these ever turn up on the open market today, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
but if this ever did, it would sell for | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
somewhere between £150,000 and £200,000. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
Not for sale. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
-You can't be tempted? -No. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
I'm glad to hear it. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:15 | |
I find myself in a very lucky situation today of being faced by two very lovely ladies. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
-Yourself. -Thank you. -And Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
Now, for all of those people who were growing up in the '60s, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
-I'm sure they'll all remember Lady Penelope from Thunderbirds. -Yeah. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
Now, this is what appears to be an oil painting | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
and I want to know how you happen to have an oil painting of Lady Penelope. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
Well, my husband worked at Century 21. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
-Really? -In Slough. -Right. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
And it was given to him when the firm closed. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
Right, OK. Now, can you tell me what your husband did at Century 21? | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Obviously that was Gerry and Sylvia Anderson's production company, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
which made all the shows like Thunderbirds, Stingray, Captain Scarlet. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
Did he work on all of those productions? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
Yeah, he did all the explosions. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
-He did all the explosions?! -Yeah. -Fabulous! | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
Of course, as a boy, that was the bit I probably most liked. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
-You would. -With all the explosions. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
-All those fabulous models that used to sadly get destroyed. -Yeah. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
Interestingly enough, this is not what it appears to be at first sight. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
In fact, even though it appears to be an oil painting, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
it's in fact an overpainted photograph. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Really? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
-It's in the, um, Penelope's house. -Was it really? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
OK. It's been overpainted by hand and we can see that actually, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
because if you look at the detail in her face, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
just here we can see there's some print work just under here. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
So, er, it's not quite what it appears to be at first sight. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-Oh. -But I don't think that really matters, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
because I think it's quite a lovely little memento. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
-It is, yes. -Of that time. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
Forgive me for asking, is your husband with you? Is he... | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
-No. No. -He's passed away, has he? -Yeah. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Well, in many respects, I think this is kind of a fitting little memento to him. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
-It is lovely. -Because without people like your husband, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
boys like myself wouldn't have been entertained. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
-True, true. -I adored anything to do with Thunderbirds. -Yeah. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
In fact, I have an old car that I've actually called Thunderbirds Two. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
Did your husband ever appear in any of the productions? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-Er, only once. -Once. What was he doing? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
-They used his eyeballs. -They used his eyeballs? -Yeah. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
What I liked about Supermarionation | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
was that occasionally they would insert a real hand, wouldn't they? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
-That's right. -And one day he happened to be there and his eyeball came in useful? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
-Yeah, it did. -Wonderful. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
It's an object that I almost hate to talk about value | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
because it has a great deal of meaning to you. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
-Yeah. -But I'm going to have to. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
It's priceless to you, but on the open market, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
to a serious collector of Thunderbirds memorabilia, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
I think it would certainly be worth around about £200 or £300. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-OK. That's fine. -I've really enjoyed looking at it. -Thank you. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
-It's made me very nostalgic too. -Good. -Thank you. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Sue, you're matron of the residential home here behind us. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Is this from inside the home? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
We've been guardians of it for nearly ten years now. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
And what is it? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
We believe that it's a Victorian jockeys' weighing machine, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:24 | |
but it was used in a local sports shop for many, many years | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
to weigh everybody, before bathroom scales and things like that. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
-Oh, I see! -People went along to the shop and they were weighed. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
And if it's a jockey's one, then, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
was it for weighing adults or for weighing children? | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
I would imagine that originally it was for adults, but we don't know. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
So this is something that is a common sight in Guernsey? | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
This has been around at least 95 years, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
because some of the residents can remember paying their penny to be weighed on it, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
when they were small. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
-On this actual chair? -On that chair. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
It's known locally as the Podgers' scales, after the shop. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
The Podgers' scales. OK, hands up, anyone here been weighed? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
Oh, look! Lots of you! | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
You were weighed on here as well? How extraordinary! | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
Well, I've got to give it a go. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:13 | |
-Yes. -So... Well, I know what I think I weigh. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-Right. -This could be quite embarrassing. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
But how much have you got on there now? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
-Um... -28. -That's two stone. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Well, it's going to be more than that. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
Two, four, five, six stone at the moment. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
All right. I've got to say, I weigh more than that. OK, see how we go. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
OK, we'll try these. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
Right, OK. Here we go. Ready? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
-CLUNK -Oh, OK. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
I think we're going to need considerably more weight. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
-More weight. -Er, now, we have a little assistant here. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Rob, lovely Antiques Roadshow assistant here. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Ooh, listen, hang on, that's a bit over the top! | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
That's another four stone, Fiona. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
What, ten?! How much do you think I weigh?! | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Right, OK. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
-Oh! -Ah, nearer there. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
-Hang on, is that too much or too little? -Too much. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
Oh, you are kind. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
That's it! | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
And what did that weigh, then? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
How much is it? That's the 64,000 question. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
How many? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
Ten stone, four pounds. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
Ten stone four?! | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
I don't weigh ten stone four! | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
Fiona, they always weigh more. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
So you're all right. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
It's not even, it's not on an even surface. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Can I just say for the record, nine and a half stone. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
I knew I shouldn't have had that pudding last night. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
This is a most impressive picture and, do you know, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
I've hardly ever seen any work by this artist | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
and it's signed on the left here, A.B. Cull, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
which I know as Alma Burton Cull. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
Whenever I see his work, it's usually watercolours, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
not big oils like this. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
Now, I know that he lived down at Lee-on-Solent, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
and I also know that when he died in 1931, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
his wife put his pictures into store in Portsmouth, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
and of course, Portsmouth was very badly bombed in 1940, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
the majority of them were destroyed, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
and that's probably the reason one doesn't see so many oils like this. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
Do you know about the fleet here? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:19 | |
Yes, the ship in the front is the Dreadnought, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
which, of course, was the name of the ship | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
that gave birth to a generation of big-gun warships. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
And that was built in about 1906, wasn't it? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
1906, and the other six are two different following classes | 0:22:34 | 0:22:40 | |
before they started changing the design. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
They were the first really super battleships. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
They were the super battleships of the 20th century. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
And where did it come from? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
Well, um, I saw it in a ship's periodical for sale. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:56 | |
I've always loved this picture since seeing it, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
a photograph of it in a... On the wall at school. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
-Mm-hm. -And I've always thought it was fascinating. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Suddenly it came up for sale, 30 years ago. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
And may I ask you what it cost then? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
-Um, well it cost me £2,000. -£2,000? | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
£2,000, and it was a silly price I offered, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
and in the end, I got it for the silly price. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Well, I think it's a very wise investment | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
-and you obviously like naval scenes. -Indeed. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
What is so incredible about this, is the light on the sea. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
-You've got these dark clouds, really very ominous. -Yes. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
And then you've got the sun setting in the background there, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
and this is just superb, absolutely superb. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
There would be a lot of demand for this. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
I imagine one of the big museums or naval museum | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
might be interested in this, if this was ever sold. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
To put a price on this is very difficult. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
I mean, I've sold his watercolours for, you know, £1,500, £2,000. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
With so much atmosphere, I mean, I'm going to say... | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
that's going to be worth | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
certainly £20,000 to £30,000 at auction, and that's conservative. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
-You obviously love it very much. -Very much, my pride and joy. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
But it's only leaving my house with my coffin. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
My goodness me! | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
I do get excited when I see a very large gem stone. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:25 | |
Do you know what it is? | 0:24:26 | 0:24:27 | |
I think it's a sapphire. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
-I'm not sure. It's my father's. -Right. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Um, and he calls it the maharajah's hatpin. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
Why is that? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:37 | |
That's what my father calls it. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
It was given to him by his father, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
-who was a purser for P&O on their flagship. -Oh, wow. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
He used to do a regular run from England to India | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
in the early 1920s, and he got friends out in India, acquaintances, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
-and apparently, he was given this on one of his trips. -By a maharajah? | 0:24:58 | 0:25:04 | |
Um, as far as I know, yes. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
Well, that would make, I mean, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
India is just a complete wealth of stones | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
and the knowledge of stones and they really appreciate gem stones, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
so that would actually make complete sense. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
We see a lot of jewellery, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
and what's so wonderful is to see a stone on its own, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
and that's the beauty of it. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
What's interesting is that a lot of people imagine sapphires just to be blue, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
but sapphires come in all colours. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Greens, um, yellows, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
and sapphire is part of the corundum family, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
which is made of aluminium oxide, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
and depending if there's too much chromium or iron, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
-it is either a ruby or a sapphire. So they're the same family. -Mm-hm. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
It's just such a wonderful colour | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
and it probably will have come from Sri Lanka. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
Now, what is interesting about this as well, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
is that because of its intensity of colour, one would have to, | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
to be absolutely certain, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
you'd have to take it to a laboratory to get it tested, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
to make sure that it hasn't been heat-treated. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
Sometimes when you heat-treat a stone, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
it can just intensify the colour. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
It's permanent. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
To find something of a natural colour like this, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
and I'm assuming that it is, is just quite stunning. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
It's quite deep, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
because the cutter has made sure to capture the maximum colour. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
It's needed the depth to bring that colour back up to the eye. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
This weighs about 90 carats. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
If this was a natural coloured sapphire, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
then I would say it's going to be in the region of about £12,000 to £15,000. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
-Not bad. -Very good. -Very good. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
And if it was heat-treated, then it would be more like £4,000, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
so there is a big difference. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
A reputable laboratory would be able to tell you the difference. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
But I just think it's fabulous. I really do. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
I mean, you can just lose yourself in it, couldn't you? | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Well, this is the precursor to the waiter's friend, isn't it? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:11 | |
-Yes. -Corkscrew. -Corkscrew. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
-And it belonged to? -It belonged to my late mother. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
She bought it in a box at an auction, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
a lot of bric-a-brac, for a pound or two. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
She wouldn't have paid more than that, some 20-odd years ago. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
I wish I could find something in a box of bric-a-brac like this. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
Well, she just stuck by it and felt there was something more to it. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
Well, I'm delighted you brought it in. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
-Well, for a start, you know how it works? -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
So we screw it down and that comes up. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:49 | |
That comes up. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:50 | |
-Yeah. -So you're in, you're now in. It's holding here on the bottle. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
-And here is what we call the worm. -Mm-hm. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
Now, the most important thing, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
when we're talking about an expensive corkscrew, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
or any corkscrew, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
the worm has got to be pointed like that, it mustn't be blunt. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
-Right. -Otherwise it loses its value. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
So then you take the handle... | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
I'm imagining we're into a damn good bottle of claret. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
Mm, that would be nice. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
-And out comes the cork. -Comme ca. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
It's a Royal Club patent, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
and it's by Charles Hull, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
patented in 1864, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
and it's patent number 480. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
-Right. -So you can look it up, anywhere in the corkscrew books. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:42 | |
It's a serious corkscrew. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
Plus the fact that the worm point is wonderfully un-blunt. It's pointed. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:51 | |
The remains of the sort of gilding is still on it, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
-which is a kind of orange paint. -Mm-hm. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
It's in very good condition. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
It's worth between £2,500 and £3,000. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
Good golly! Puh! | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
I will open a bottle tonight. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
I think this is just the most wonderful object. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
-I adore it. -Oh, good. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
-Do you know what it is? -Palanquin? | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
Palanquin. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:22 | |
-Palanquin. -Well, that's what we, in Europe, call it. -Mm-hm. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
But, of course, this is not European. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
It's Japanese, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
and there it would be called a kago, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
and it would have been used - | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
I mean, the full-sized one, not this - the full-sized one | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
would have been used for carrying somebody of some substance. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
It is effectively a sedan chair. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
The person that would have been in it, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
would be identifiable by this, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
which is a mon, or badge. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
So we could find out. I don't know who it is, but we could find out. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
The reason these were made is absolutely extraordinary. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:10 | |
The Japanese are, or were, a very war-like nation, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:16 | |
and they weren't just fighting other people | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
like the Chinese or the Koreans or wherever. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
They were fighting themselves, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
and the samurai were going round the country with their swords, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
chopping people to pieces. Each other. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
And the shogun at the time, in the 16th century, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
called Ieyasu Tokugawa, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
he thought of this brilliant plan, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
which was to have a castle at Edo, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
which is now Kyoto, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
and he said to the samurai and the daimyo, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
who were the lords round the country, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
"You will send me for six months of the year | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
"your wife and your children." | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
So you can't fight one another, because if you do... | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
So these were moving round Japan, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:14 | |
along the Tokaido road, the whole time. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:20 | |
And here we've got one, which I suspect was made | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
right at the end of the period when these would have been in use, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:30 | |
-which is about 1870, 1880. -Mm-hm. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:35 | |
It's made of wood | 0:31:35 | 0:31:36 | |
and it's been lacquered, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
and we've got metal mounts all over it, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
which have been beautifully engraved, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
and as the original would have, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
we have a sliding door. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
This one's been decorated as an original would be, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
with painted paper on the walls | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
-and a brocade cushion. -Mm-hm. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
Because it's such a decorative object, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
I think that would make, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
even though the market's difficult at the moment, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
-somewhere around £3,000 to £5,000. -Mm! | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
-Not bad for a spare bedroom. -My goodness. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
I have to ask, what on earth is this? | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
Well, Fiona, this is something I've dug out from the Occupation Museum. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
The Germans used a lot of horses during the occupation. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
They had 700 of these, and they had this obsession with gas, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
so they had gas masks for horses. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
-So these two cones goes up a horse's nostrils. -No! | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
They wouldn't go up yours, but they would go up a horse. Yes. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
What do you think? It's a look! | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
But any horse would be terrified! | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
Yes, when a local farmer, not far from here, saw it, the horse actually bolted. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
And did they ever actually get a horse to put this on? Comfortably. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
Well, they did... They did practise, because it was part of their drill. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
And so the Germans were worried, what, that the British forces would gas... | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
What, gas the good people of Guernsey along with the Germans? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Well, obviously, but we had civilian gas masks | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
which was issued at the outbreak of war in 1939, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
and the Germans brought their own gas masks in their canisters, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
and these were specifically for horses. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
But gas was never used. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
So when the Germans surrendered in 1945, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
what happened to all the horses? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
Well, before that, in June 1944, with the invasion of France, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
we were cut off in the Channel Islands, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
and there was very little food coming in. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
In fact, there was nothing coming in, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
so by the end of '44, the Germans were consuming, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
they were actually eating their horses. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
-Oh! -And they were also catching a lot of fish. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
The locals had to catch fish | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
and a percent of the catch went for the Germans. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
So by liberation, out of 700 horses, there was only 302 left. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:04 | |
Well, I hate to think of a horse having to wear this. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
I think it would be cruel in the extreme, I must say. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
-But I've loved seeing them, thanks very much. -Thank you. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Just looking at this dress, it takes me back immediately to the 1920s. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:20 | |
To flappers, to parties, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
to women emancipated after the First World War, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
-women really having their own place in society now and enjoying it. -Yes. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
So is this dress related to someone in your family? | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
Um, well, she wasn't a direct relation. We called her Aunt Mary. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
We were close neighbours and my mother-in-law helped her and looked after her. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
She got very old. She lived to 92, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
and it was left to my mother-in-law and it passed to me. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
-And this is the lady, this is... -That's Mary Rust, yes. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
-This is the lady who wore this fantastic dress. -Yes, that's right. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
-I mean, she was obviously a beauty in her time. -Yes. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
And what was her story? What was Mary's story? | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
Well, she was born in Louisiana, and she was in a relationship | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
with a young man that the family didn't approve of, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
so they sent her to China, where they... | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
I mean, being sent to China, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
it must have been a very, very unfortunate relationship, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
-because I mean, Louisiana, Deep South in America, very strict moral values. -Yes. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
And of course, anything, any impropriety, you would be sent away. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
I think she had missionaries in the family that were in China at the time. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
Ah! So they decided, get Mary, pack Mary off... | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
They took her under their wing | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
and she went to, sort of, tea parties and social occasions. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
I must say, with a dress like this, she went to more than tea parties! | 0:35:37 | 0:35:43 | |
-I think this was not a sedate tea party. -Started off with tea parties. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:48 | |
-She obviously got rid of the missionaries quick. -Yeah. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-But, no, because this was the height of fashion. -Yes. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
Women for the first time in public, smoking and drinking and having great fun. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
Mm, that's right. She met a young man called Oliver Hume, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
who was a self-made man, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
and he became the postmaster general of China, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
and she mixed in very high society | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
and she met the Emperor of Japan and such people. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
-Shanghai was an open port. -Yes. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
And it was very much high society. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
This was the period everyone came into Shanghai. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
It was lots of wealthy people, lots of merchants | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
and lots of fantastic parties, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
and I mean, a dress like this | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
would absolutely have been the height of fashion. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
You would have worn this at something - | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
-I should think with a little slip underneath... -Yes. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
-You would have worn this... -She was quite small, she wasn't very tall. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
It's absolutely beautiful at the front and then again, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
when you turn it round onto the back, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
it's got that incredible beaded train. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
I mean, this is so lovely. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
You can just imagine her dancing with that. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
I mean, really, really beautiful thing. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Just the detail of it is just fabulous. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
I hope she had some nice shoes. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:02 | |
-Oh, I bet she had wonderful shoes. -Yes. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
Ooh, yes. Ooh, I think so. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
A dress like this, so redolent of that period, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
in such beautiful condition, so beautifully done. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
Normally, these dresses I would say about £200 to £300. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
That tends to be... | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
Good ones might go for a little bit more, maybe £500. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
This one, I have no hesitation in saying it's £1,000 plus. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
That's right. It's got to go in a glass case really, doesn't it? | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
It does, and I'm sure Mary would be delighted that we were looking at it. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
Aunt Mary would love it and she'd be pouring herself a gin. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
These candlesticks I would love to see on my dining room table. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
-Really? -They are gorgeous. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
-What can you tell me about them? -Er, not a lot. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
Really can't, because they belong to my partner, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
and they were left to her by her late husband, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
who died ten years ago. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
-Right. -We know he acquired them, we don't know when, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
we don't know much about them at all. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
We love them because we put them on the table when we have a dinner party | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
and they just set the scene very nicely, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
but Georgian is the one word that I know may apply. That's about it. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
-Fair enough. In fact, they just scrape into Georgian. -Right. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
The dates are interesting. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
-In fact, we've actually got two pairs here. -Oh, right. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
-One pair was made in 1715. -Wow. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
And the other pair was made in 1716. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
-Really? -But actually, they were probably all made together. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
They were made over Christmas and New Year. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
Well, in fact, May, middle of May, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
because the goldsmith's year runs from May of one year | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
-to May of the next. -Oh, I see. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
So literally, they could have gone and - | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
one pair into the assay office on a Tuesday, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
the next pair on the Wednesday. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
So the fact they're two - | 0:38:57 | 0:38:58 | |
-if they were chairs or something, you wouldn't know. -Yes. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
But because they're silver, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
we've actually got... | 0:39:04 | 0:39:05 | |
-that's the A for 1716 on that one. -Right. Yes. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
And let's see what we've got on this one. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
-We've got - and that is the date letter for 1715. -Oh, I see. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
The other marks we've got there are for Britannia standard silver. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
Oh, that's a very high quality silver. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
The highest quality, historically, that we had. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
-The maker is David Green. -Is that London? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:33 | |
Oh, yes, they're London candlesticks, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
and David Green, specialist candlestick maker. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
And within goldsmithing, you have these specialties - | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
-spoon making, candlestick making. -Yes. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
All each to their own in that sort of way. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
So, where do we go with value? | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
I'm going to be a bit conservative, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
because the market's a little bit funny at the moment. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
I would suggest we're looking at a value, at auction, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
of at least £10,000. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
-Good Lord, really? -Yes. -My word. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
If they went towards 15, it wouldn't surprise me. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
Good heavens, that's fantastic. Very unexpected. Thank you. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
I wonder what we have in this little manila envelope. Ah! | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
It's an interesting banknote. A £1. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
It's an occupation note, isn't it? | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
-Yes. -That's been specially printed during the occupation of the island, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
and I can see it's dated 1st January 1943. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
What's the story behind it? | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
Well, from what I can gather, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
my father, at the end of the occupation, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
had a carrier bag of these notes. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
Right. A carrier bag full of these notes? | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
I don't know how full they were, but he definitely had them in a carrier bag. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
He also had quite a lot of German memorabilia | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
because my mother sort of said that when the Germans left the island, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
-they just left everything. -Right. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
So you'd be walking around and you'd see German helmets and things just... | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
-Just left scattered everywhere. -Yes, it was just left. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
And so they thought nothing about it, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
and then in the '60s and '70s, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
my father realised that these might be collectable, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
so he started selling them to local dealers for pocket money, really. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
Can you remember how much money they were taking these for? | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
No, I don't, I don't know, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
but it came to the thing when the dealers were coming to him | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
and asking if he had any more notes to sell. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
Did that ever arouse any kind of suspicions? | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
Did you ever worry or did he ever worry about it? | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
No, no, we just laughed because it was just my dad, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
you know, getting a bit of extra money. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
Generally, I suppose that something like this probably isn't worth much money at all. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
Do you have any idea of what it's worth? | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
No, I have no idea. Um, no idea. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
No idea. OK. Well, if I were to tell you that this £1 | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
was worth £500, you'd be pretty surprised wouldn't you? | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
-Yes. -Yeah. -Yes. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:03 | |
Well, not only is it worth £500, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
it's worth six times that. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
It's worth £3,000. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
This is one... This is one of the rarest occupation notes there is | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
and this genuinely is worth £3,000. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:42:18 | 0:42:19 | |
To be honest with you, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
it's a shame that your father gave away, or sold, so many. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
Yes, well, there should be four others in existence, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
because when he was coming to the end of the carrier bag, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
-my mum gave one to each of her existing grandchildren. -Right. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
-So... -So what you need to do is track them all down. -Is track them down. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
Because in reality, you have £15,000 worth of these, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
if you can find them all, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
-and... -Good heavens. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:45 | |
-There was one sold recently on the island, I think... -Yes, yes. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
..which made exactly £3,000, and it genuinely is worth that. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
Flabbergasting, isn't it? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
Absolutely! | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
This wins the prize for the most unusual thing I've seen today. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
It's a little handmade wooden box. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
Inside... | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
..a little brush, look. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
And what do you think those bristles are made of? | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
Believe it or not, the man who made it, it's his beard! | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
He had a long auburn beard | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
and he cut it off and put it into the bristles. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
Which is charming...I think. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
Anyway, from Saumarez Park in Guernsey, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
we've had a great day, hope you have too. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow, bye-bye. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 |