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This fountain is fed by water travelling down a pipe | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
from high up in the Cotswold hills, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
and gravity alone thrusts it high up into the air, 300 foot. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
This is the highest gravity-fed fountain in the world. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
It's a modern addition to this historic landscape, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
which gave rise to a particularly British style of gardening. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Come for a stroll with me | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
around Stanway House and Water Gardens in Gloucestershire. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
Stanway is a flower in the Cotswold countryside | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
and here saw the first buds of a distinctively British style | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
of country garden in the 18th century. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Before this, the trendy estate garden looked for inspiration | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
to Europe with its high walls and formal layout. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Stanway's revolutionary garden design | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
blew down the constrictions of the walled garden, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
opening it up to the surrounding countryside. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
It's hard to appreciate now, just how groundbreaking this idea was, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
and it's all attributed to garden designer Charles Bridgeman. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
The trick was to sympathetically blend | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
the natural features of the landscape | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
with some of the formal features which had been hidden behind walls. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
This is a classic example of Bridgeman's work - | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
a 500 foot long canal, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
and up here a cascade which is the longest in England | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
and it's fed from a pond up there, behind the pyramid. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
They were marvels of their day. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Between 1725 and 1735, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Stanway became one of the grandest water gardens in England, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
and it's hard to believe, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:25 | |
but all this was lost for over 150 years | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
until a lawnmower lost a blade on a stone from the overgrown cascade | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
back in the '80s. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
Over the course of ten years, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
the canal and cascade were revealed | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
and restored to their former 18th century glory, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
and as a final flourish, the fountain was added. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
Let's hope that's the only drenching we're likely to see today | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
as our experts are once again primed and ready for action | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
on the lawns of Stanway. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
When I first saw this picture, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
I saw it from about 100 metres away up the lawn, she really beckoned me. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
I have to say, now I'm up close, I'm not the slightest bit disappointed. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
-Good. -She's lovely. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
Yes, she's beautiful. We love her. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
So how did she come into your life? | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
Many years ago it belonged to my parents-in-law down in Brighton, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
they were antique dealers, small time antique dealers, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
they went out on a house clearance | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
and it came home on top of their Vauxhall Victor Estate. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
From then on it hung in their flat, and then a few years ago, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
I loved her so much my mother-in-law gave her to me, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
so we could hang her at home. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
-And so you adopted her? -We did, indeed, she's lovely, yes. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
I have to say, she really is | 0:03:45 | 0:03:46 | |
and there's all sorts of reasons why it is, in my mind, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
but let's start with the signature because it's very bold. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
You don't often get them so clearly expressed. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Bottom left, "John Wood 1840". Now do you know about John Wood? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
Not a lot. Um, we've tried the usual sort of internet search | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
and found out that he did exhibit at the Royal Academy, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
but apart from that we know nothing more about him. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
Well, John Wood was a very prominent, eminent figure in England | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
in the 1830s, '40s, '50s and '60s... | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
He exhibited a huge amount. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
I think there's something like 110 works or so on record | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
as being exhibited by him, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
and this, I guess is one of those, because I couldn't help noticing | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
behind there is a label and it says "Royal Academy Exhibition". | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
And so it's one of those. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
This is one of those trophies | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
the artist was very happy to see represented at The Royal Academy. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:40 | |
But this artist was no normal portrait painter. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
He was a subject painter as well, he painted biblical subjects, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
he painted narrative pictures, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
so his paintings have an undercurrent, a further message. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
He's trying to say something through the face. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
And I don't know about you but I find her face very reflective, | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
very introspective as well. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
It's something more than averagely expressive, wouldn't you say? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
Every time we look at her, we see something different. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Every time I walk into the dining room where she hangs, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
sometimes I think she's sad, sometimes I think she's wistful, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
sometimes I think she's just not really sure how she feels | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
about sitting there to have her portrait painted. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
She's always got a different expression. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
I love that, that's lovely. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
-That's, I have to say, how I respond as well. -Yeah. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
I also like her slightly coquettish tilt of the head, don't you? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
Mm. It's a little bit cheeky. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
Yeah, and this is a very interesting time in portraiture, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
because it's 1840 - we're into Victorian England | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
and yet this is the last gasp of - to my mind - of the Regency look, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
the feeling of glamour, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
the feeling of first quarter of the 19th century. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Oh, no, I envy you owning this picture, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
I'd really happily live with that, you know. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
And I'm very choosy. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
So we need to talk about value. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
Well, look, it came with a lot of other things, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
it probably wasn't really given any value at all, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
it just came as a job lot, so we have no idea to be quite truthful. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
I would be very comfortable | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
putting a valuation of around £10,000. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Really? Wow! That's fabulous, yes. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
That's really lovely. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
Yeah, she deserves it. She's lovely. Thank you. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
This is a super pot, isn't it? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
I suppose it's an oil lamp base, isn't it? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Intended for screwing in an oil lamp, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
and under the base there, on the side, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
is the original factory mark. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
WP for Winchcombe Pottery - | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
-not far down the road from here! -About five miles. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Five miles! | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
-And MC for Michael Cardew himself. -That's right. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
The great owner originally of the factory. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
He restarted the pottery, it was a little village pottery at one time, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
and he restarted it in the 1920s and made a fantastic success of it. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
He is now regarded as one of our great potters | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
and I think his work is remarkably great, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
baked from the clay behind the factory | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
and they're wonderful little things. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
It's absolutely splendid to see. How did you come by it? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
We went to Cheltenham car boot and I bought it for 50p. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
50p. That's not fair. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
I didn't believe it either. I'd have paid a pound. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
A public boot fair? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
-It was in a box under a table. -In Cheltenham Race Course? -Yeah. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Well, it's a very unusual pot to have this screw top in it, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
the decoration is absolutely marvellous, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
I love him very much! | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
And I suppose your 50p is now £1,000. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:46 | |
Good Lord! | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Wow! | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
-Really? -Yes, yes. -Oh, God! | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
Worth quite a lot. Congratulations! | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Thank you. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Well, this is an amazing collection here of letters. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
We normally encourage people to bring only five items in, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
-because there's normally queues of people. -Yes, yes. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
You've brought well over a thousand. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
-Yes, um... -Tell me about it, tell me about them. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
The tin trunk was not investigated by anybody in the family, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:17 | |
-we didn't know anything about it till my grandmother died. -Yes. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
And then it was handed over to me, as the eldest grandson | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
and after a little while I took the courage to open it | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
and started investigating, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
and what I didn't know about at all | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
was that it would tell me about a secret engagement | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
that my grandmother had in 1912 for a whole year. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
Why was it secret? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
Well, it was secret because she was the youngest of ten children. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-Yes. -And her father, it was obvious would not approve | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
of her getting married or engaged to a young man | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
who had not yet got a job, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
-and had not finished his training as an accountant. -Right. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
So, they had secret meetings. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
She used to go away from home to house parties | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
and he would meet her at Charing Cross. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
-And here they are. Is that them? -Here they are. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
This is Clare, my grandmother, and this is Reggie, my grandfather. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Very First World War uniform there. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
Yes, this is a formal portrait that was taken | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
after the beginning of the war. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
So they had these meetings at London stations, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
at Charing Cross for instance, she would come up to Charing Cross | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
and he would take her in a taxi across to Paddington. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Oh, it all sounds terribly Brief Encounter, doesn't it? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Very, very Brief Encounter indeed, yes, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
but that was the only way they could manage really | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
in that sort of situation. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
Then when they became engaged, it all went public, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
so in the box there's lots and lots of letters from 1912 and '13 | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
and then a blank until he went to the Western Front. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
So what we find is, they advanced across the Somme battlefield... | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
-This is early 1917. -This is the 1917 one? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
These are April 1917, but these two letters tell us about the first time | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
he was actually under fire and they were advancing down a hill | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
to take this village on the next hill - | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
I've been to the site where this was - | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
and he was in the front line at this point, early in the morning, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
and a snowstorm developed. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
And as he says in the letter to his wife rather elliptically | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
"It was the snowstorm that saved us." | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
Because of the snowstorm, the German guns didn't know where to fire. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
No. Now this one looks rather important, what is this one? | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
Significance of this one? It's got a little red seal on it. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Yes, well this, this is the letter he wrote at the end of 1917 | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
when he's more of a hardened soldier | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
and he realises the chances of course of being killed are very considerable | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
and like many soldiers did, he sent a letter to the bank to be left, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
as it says on here, on the front, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
it says, "Left in the case of my death to be passed to my wife." | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
So he was actually killed during the... | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
-He was killed, he was killed on 21st March 1918. -This is... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
The great German offensive and it's a very moving letter of course. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
"Well, the war is over for me | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
"and will I hope soon be over for everyone. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
"It's a bad business for the whole world. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
"Goodbye, my Clare, your own, Reg". | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
And then there's a PS - | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
"I meant to copy this out but just do not have time. Goodbye darling, Reg." | 0:11:21 | 0:11:27 | |
-Well, that's incredibly sad. -Yes. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Well, where are all these going, what's going to happen with these? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
-Well... -Hundreds and thousands of love letters. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
Well, the idea is to leave them to the college | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
-that he was at in Oxford, Merton College. -Yes. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
And the college is very pleased | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
and has agreed in principle to receive all these | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
and to look after them properly. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:47 | |
I think Merton College are getting a very good deal out of this, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
and I think that it should be valued somewhere in the region of £5,000. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
-That's interesting to know that. -Thank you for bringing them in. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
This beautiful musical box, I can date exactly to 1874 | 0:11:59 | 0:12:05 | |
from the serial number, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
and I believe actually the summer of that year. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
But that's what I know about it. What can you tell me about it? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
Well, all I know is that it was my grandmother's, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
and I can remember seeing it in my grandmother's bedroom | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
ever since... Well, always. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
So could have bought it new from her mother | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
or something like that? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:24 | |
Possibly yes, or grandmother. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
What about its more recent history? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
It was damaged in the floods of July '07. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
I was actually down in Evesham shopping | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
and at eleven o'clock in the morning, the petrol station, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
one of the petrol stations was completely under water. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
-This was at eleven o'clock in the morning on that Friday. -Frightening. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
It was... Oh, it was just dreadful, it was unbelievable. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Anyhow, the water kept rising and it came up and over the garden wall | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
and it hadn't got anywhere else to go except in the house. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
-To experience that must have been really frightening. -It was. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
And within ten minutes, it was complete and utter devastation, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
it was devastating. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
-So you thought at that stage your musical box... -We thought... | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
-Your heirloom was gone for ever. -Yeah. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Now what often happens with water damage | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
-is veneer and marquetry often pops up, had that happened? -Yes, it did. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
Yes, it had. Where the water had made it all sort of swell | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
and you could see... Well, it was just awful. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
But now it's better than new. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
It's beautiful. It's really, really beautiful. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
And inside the mechanism is all shining | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
-and probably, as you say, better than it ever was. -Yes. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
What I like about this particular musical box | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
that makes it, in my opinion, quite a rarity, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
is this tiny little document here. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
I don't know how many hundreds of musical boxes | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I've seen on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
but it's many many, and this is the original maker's - | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
Gremond directions concerning the musical box in the winter. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
"To avoid affect caused by a sudden transition of temperature, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
"you must on arrival with the musical box | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
"leave it during some hours in a warm room | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
-"before opening the glass cover." -Yes, it's amazing, isn't it? | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Then how to transport it... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
These bits of document get lost, so, so rare. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
Please do keep that in a very safe place, because it's an exception. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
But also the proof of the pudding is what does it sound like? | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
It's beautiful, it really is beautiful. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Well, just before we play it, we have to talk about price. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
It probably cost an arm and a leg to get it restored. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Yes, it was quite expensive. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
-But it was worth every penny. -Absolutely. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
So, at auction, we're probably talking about a figure | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
of between £2,500 and £3,000. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
-Really? -But let's give it a whirl, let's see what it sounds like. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
Yes, absolutely, yes. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
MUSIC CHIMES | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
My great-great-great-grandfather left Essex to build bridges in China | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
-with the Royal Engineers. -Right. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:14 | |
And he met and married Amoi, or Amy, as we've translated it. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
And this is Amy here? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
That's... Yes. And she was born and raised in China as a Chinese woman. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
-OK, so... -But she wore those in all her photographs that we have of her. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
These ear pendants. Always worn them? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Always worn them, doesn't matter if she's gardening or wherever, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
she is always wearing the pendants. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:35 | |
And when do you think...? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
I mean, these to me seem to be in the date of around about 1860, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
so do you think that she was given them? | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
Well, my belief is - from some of the letters - | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
-that she was given them by her mother. -Oh, right. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
She married my great-great-great grandfather in 1863. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
-Right. -And in all of his pictures of her, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
she was certainly wearing them then, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
and then in 1867 they moved back to England. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
-Right. -And I guess it was so totally unacceptable, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
as actually we thought it would have been in China too, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
-but she always had support from her family. -What was unacceptable? | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
-A mixed marriage. -Gosh. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
A mixed marriage back in the mid 19th century, so... | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
-It was quite shocking, was it? -It was quite shocking. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
It was quite shocking when they moved back with two children | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
who had been born in China | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
and they managed to stay here for about 15 months. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
I gather life was pretty miserable for them as far as acceptance. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
-Here in the UK. -And then they moved to Canada. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
He unfortunately died about five years after they came to Canada. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
-Oh, really? -And she was left a widow with eight children. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Goodness me! That to me, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
there must have been so much love there | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
to have gone through all that. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
I think it really was a true love match. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Well, she was wearing these ear pendants | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
with these beautiful dragons that are curling round this ball, | 0:16:53 | 0:17:00 | |
-and the dragon symbolises good fortune. -Yes. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
So I think, no wonder she never took them off, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
because I think she clearly had good fortune and good stamina. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
What I love about these ear pendants is the attention to detail. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:16 | |
-Underneath, where you don't normally see it. -Yes. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
You know, that's what's fascinating. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Now the only thing negative about these | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
is that they're not the original ear fitting. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-Um, I believe my grandmother changed those. -She did? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Because she liked to wear them because it was a hoop. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
-Just a plain hoop. -It was just a plain hoop. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
-I think she thought she might lose them. -Might lose one. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Unfortunately they're not, but I believe that's the reason. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
And I would say at auction you'd be looking at around about, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
in the condition that they're in, it's about £1,000 to £1,500. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
-Thank you. -I just love the story, it's a fabulous story. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
It is and it's a romantic story. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
It is and you wear them? Do you wear them? | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
I do occasionally, but they are very heavy, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
so I don't know how great-great-great grandmother wore them. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
They are hollow, but they have got a lot of weight in them, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
they're 18 carat gold but maybe you should wear them | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
-and they'll bring you good fortune as well. -That would be great. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:15 | |
If you had to ask anyone in the Roadshow today | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
who the most famous wrist watch manufacturer was in the world, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
they'd probably say... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
-Rolex. -Exactly right, which is what we have here. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
And when you first took it out of your pocket and showed it to me, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
I took a double take at this watch, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
because although it doesn't look the part, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
it is in fact quite a special piece. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
But before I go any further, what do you know about it? | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
Not a lot really. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:45 | |
I brought some other watches and my friend said, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
"I've got a couple of watches in a drawer, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
"belonged to my grandfather". | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
He said, "Take them along with you" That's as far as I know. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
No evidence of any scientific interest in his family, do you know? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
He worked in a power station. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
His grandfather, or him? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:03 | |
-His grandfather. -Did he? -Yeah. -Now that's fascinating. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
What's the significance of that? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
The fact that if he was in the power industry, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
this would have been given to his grandfather, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
because they were resistant to the electromagnetic fields, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
because they put a special coating around the movement. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
It's a steel case, and it has a very special seconds hand | 0:19:23 | 0:19:29 | |
-shaped in the form of a lightning bolt. -Yes. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
And the only time Rolex used lightning bolts seconds hand | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
was with a special watch they produced called the Milgauss. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
And the Milgauss... | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
I think I'm right in saying that 'gauss' | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
is a measurement of electromagnetic power. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
And the Milgauss was specially made by Rolex | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
for workers in the electromagnetic industry | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
in around the 1950s, 1960s. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
Now they made various different versions of it | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
and those that were made with this slightly browned version | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
of the honeycomb dial were the rarest of all. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
When you take a glass, an eyeglass, and look closely at the dial | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
you get, "Oh, my goodness me! It's dreadfully oxidised and rusty | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
"and it's all gone wrong" | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
But that's what collectors like. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
Now, an awful lot of Rolexes have been faked over the years, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
as we all know. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
Why collectors like them in this condition | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
is because they look right, they feel right. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
There's always a downside to this though, there's always something. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
The band going around the dial is plain, it's steel. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
-This bevel band that runs around the dial. -Yes. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
If you put your finger inside it, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
there's a little, there's a slightly sort of sharp edge to it, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
and that indicates to me that originally | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
it had an enamelled band going around it | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
and that has been chipped and it's been taken out, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
because it probably would have looked ugly. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
That won't help its value. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:04 | |
But it's a rare piece and your friend's a lucky fellow. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-Is he really? -He is. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
If this were to come up for sale today, it's worth somewhere between | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
£5,000 and £15,000. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Is it really? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
It is. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
And if I were to say to you | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
that last week a Milgauss sold for just over 150,000, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:29 | |
but it was extra special and it was a rarer version of this, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
that might tell you why your friend needs to go to Rolex | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
to get it researched. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:37 | |
-I'll have to tell him that. -It's absolutely intriguing. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
I'll be fascinated to hear more about it. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
-I'll certainly tell him and see what he can find out. -Fantastic. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
He'll be over the moon. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
People come from far and wide to see the Roadshow | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
and to bring their items along for the experts to have a look at. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Today we've got some people who've come from further | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
than I've ever heard of before, starting with you. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
Now where have you come from? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
-I've come from Toronto. -From Canada? -Yes, yes. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Goodness me! Do you know the Antiques Roadshow in Canada? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Oh, absolutely, there are three Antiques Roadshows at home - | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
the American, the Canadian and the real one, the BBC. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
Oh, an embarrassment of roadshows. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
Yes, but on Sunday afternoon I think Canada stops | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
to watch the Antiques Roadshow from the BBC. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Oh, that's what we like to hear. So Canada. And you've come from...? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
-Sydney, Australia. -Sydney, Australia. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
And do you watch it out there? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Yes, every night, every afternoon, 5.30, Monday to Friday. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:36 | |
-What, you watch the Roadshow every day? -Yeah. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Oh, my goodness, you must be our biggest fans. Thank you! | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
What devotion, my goodness! | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
-What is it you like about the show? -Just very interesting. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
There's different things which you don't normally see. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
People bring things out the woodwork, it's just amazing, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
what's in the closet. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
You've come to Stanway in Gloucestershire today | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
because you're on holiday? | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Or did you find out where we were and plan your trip around it or... | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-Yes, yes, exactly right. Yes. -Really? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Yes, this part of the trip, we did, yes. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
-Fantastic! -We're great fans. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
Well, we're very glad to have you, wonderful. So you're from Australia. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
Moving on. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
-And where are you guys from? -Wellington, New Zealand. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
Wellington, New Zealand! | 0:23:18 | 0:23:19 | |
So you win the prize for having come the furthest, fantastic! | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
How did you find out that we were here? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
Did you plan your trip around it? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
We've followed the Antiques Roadshow for quite some time, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
last time we were in England we planned on coming, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
but unfortunately we weren't in the area in which you were in, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
but this time you are | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
and we're coming to a wedding reception in Kendal, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
so we're not too far away. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:40 | |
Now I know that the Roadshow has been to Canada, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
it's been to Australia. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:45 | |
We haven't been to New Zealand. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
-We're waiting on it. -We're waiting patiently. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
You and me both. I think next stop - New Zealand. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
I'm sure people will be wondering | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
-why we're looking at furniture like this. -Yes, on the Antiques Roadshow! | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
Exactly. And also perhaps why I'm doing furniture. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
But it's interesting that the furniture chaps | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
were not particularly familiar with 20th century furniture. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
Particularly, this is Cotswolds 20th century furniture. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Why did you buy it? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Well, we bought it mainly because John and I, at the time, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
both worked from home | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
and we needed some office furniture. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
We have quite a large room dedicated to the office | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
and just fell in love with it really, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
the lovely sort of rounded smooth lines of it | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
and the contrast in the wood, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
we felt it would be a real statement in the room. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
So the manufacturer was Gordon Russell | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
and it takes us right back to the Broadway tradition, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
where Gordon Russell's workshops were. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
Rather different in style but very much a Cotswold's thing nonetheless, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
so was that why you bought it? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
When we found out it was Gordon Russell, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
for me personally, with my family being from Broadway, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
and obviously Gordon Russell originating there, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
that made it sort of, "Yes, I really want that now". | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Well, it was designed by a man called Ray Leigh. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Do you know what date it is? | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Well, I thought it was 1960's, but I'm not entirely sure, actually. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
Well, it's known as a sycamore suite. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
-Right. -And it was made in the early to mid 1980's. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
-Oh, really? -And each piece, I think, is so redolent | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
-of the 1930s with this use of blonde wood and contrasts and so on. -Yeah. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
And I think, you know, particularly this simple plain plinth | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
and cornice here | 0:25:34 | 0:25:35 | |
and the concealed handles is, so, so very 1930s, isn't it? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
Mm, absolutely. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
Well, when we bought it from the dealer in Pershore, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
he said that it was made for an executive in Birmingham | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
and he paid £8,000 for it new. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
What did it cost? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:52 | |
Well, we moved house and we had a Victorian oak wind-out table, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
dining table and it didn't really fit in the house, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
so we went back to the dealer we bought that table from ten years ago | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
and asked if we could exchange it for some office furniture. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
And we looked at various pieces, but, as I say, when I saw this, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
I just fell in love with it. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
Did you buy the chair with it as well? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Yes. Although we were unsure | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
whether that was a Gordon Russell chair at the time. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
-Yes. -It seems to match perfectly. -It seems to match, doesn't it? -Mm. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Well, we can probably find out. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
Oh, I'd love to know. Yes, I would. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
We could find out now, because we have Ray Leigh here. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Oh, how fantastic! | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
-Hello, pleased to meet you. -Hello, nice to meet you. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Very nice to meet you, yes. And very exciting to see this, yes. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
-Oh, fantastic. -So you like it? -I do, I love it very much. -Good. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
Well, Ray designed this suite and Ray, did you make the chair? | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
No, we didn't make the chair. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
No, I don't know where the chair comes from, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
-but, no, that wasn't us. -Ah! | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
And how much were you charging for a piece like this? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Well, I'm trying to cast... Cos this was designed back in '84. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
-Right. -And casting my mind back, we think probably about £200-250 | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
-for the desk at that time. -Oh, gosh! Ah. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
So the figure of 8,000 that I was told was inflated. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
-8,000? -Yeah, somewhat. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
I'd like to think it was 8,000, but no, it wasn't. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
-Right, OK. -So you swapped the table. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
-Yes. -And you bought the suite | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
-and it cost you what, about £1,300 £1,400 in all? -Yes £1,350 yes. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
-You did well. -It's probably worth perhaps £300 per piece. -Right. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
So that's 300, £400 per piece, so it's about what you paid for it, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
which you know just goes to show | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
-how incredibly good value it is today. -Yes. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
So there we are, and you had no idea that it was by Ray Leigh. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
-No. -There we are. -Oh, very nice to meet you. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
Nice to meet you and nice to know... | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
I hope it gives you years of pleasure. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
Yes, it will and it's very useful. We use it so... | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
-I'll leave you chatting then. -Thank you. -Oh, it's great fun. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
-Thanks a lot. -Thank you. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
-Do you know you've answered two prayers. -I have? | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
You have. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
Lovely, I'm pleased about that. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
One is arriving in this area | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
and I thought to myself, "What would be wonderful to turn up?" | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
And you've brought it along for me. Guild of Handicraft pieces! | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
Wonderful! And of course made in Chipping Camden, just down the road. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:24 | |
That's right. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Guild of Handicraft, absolutely fascinating, Ashbee's designs here. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
What made you buy them? | 0:28:30 | 0:28:31 | |
I'm just fascinated with the Guild of Handicraft work, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
the way they've made them, all by hand, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
the craftsmen have done it | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
and it's just fantastic as far as I'm concerned. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
The marvellous thing with the Guild of Handicraft | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
was this idea of getting back to the medieval system, a small workshop, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
each man knew the limitations, the capabilities of the other - | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
they worked together, it was a creative joint process, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
and all this of course had been inspired by William Morris. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
The Guild moved - as I'm sure you know - | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
in 1902 to Chipping Camden and lovely, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
this was actually - the mustard pot was made in 1902. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
The bowl, 1905, so all very nicely within that period. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
So, tell me about the saucepan. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
I saw it and it was advertised as Paul de Lamerie, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
so I like Paul de Lamerie's work, I'm fascinated with Paul de Lamerie, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:26 | |
so when I acquired it, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
I looked in some books, did some research | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
and found it could have been Pierre Platel, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
but not knowing the difference, so I thought the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
-see what they can come up with. -Brilliant. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
It absolutely shrieks quality. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
When you look at the back here, that's known as cut card work, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
a strengthening plate essentially, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
but the wonderful shaping we've got there. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
Lovely formal baroque armorial. | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
And what you get so often with these top Huguenots - | 0:30:00 | 0:30:06 | |
just a maker's mark, no complete set of hallmarks. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
They quite liked not sending things through the Assay Office. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
So is it Lamerie? Is it Platel? | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
Please tell me. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
-It's Platel. -It is? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
Which I think is brilliant. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Pierre Platel, one of the greatest goldsmiths the world has ever known. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:30 | |
Fabulous goldsmith! | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
He took on Paul de Lamerie as his apprentice in 1713 | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
and, not surprisingly, Paul de Lamerie ends up | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
as one of the most fabulous goldsmiths in the world. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
And how we know that it's not the sterling standard mark | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
of Paul de Lamerie, which would have been PL, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
you look between the marks. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
-Lamerie put a little dot in between the P and the L. -Right. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
-There's no dot here, it's Platel. -It's Platel. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
So values. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
What did you pay for them? | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
-Er, I think that one was £800. -Right. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
-And that one, I think that was £200 £300 somewhere around there. -Yes. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
And that was £2,000. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
Right, OK. I think that's easily doubled up on that - £1,600. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:22 | |
I mean, in recent years Ashbee's been doing very well | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
and even in the current situation Ashbee's doing jolly well. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
That is a rare piece, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
the mustard pot. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
I think that's closer to the value, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
but, you know, maybe £3,000 today for that. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
It is an unusual one to find. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
And the Platel, I think we're looking more | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
towards the £3,000, £4,000 quite easily on that one. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
I mean, Platel is just so fabulous. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
-Wow! -So you really have made my day. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
You've made my day, thank you very much indeed. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
A pleasure. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
Now is the reason you own this is | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
because there's a hairdresser in the family or something to do with that? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
No, there are no hairdressers in the family at all. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
This was bequeathed to me | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
by my father when he passed away two years ago at the age of 104. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
-104 that's a very good age. -Yes, it is indeed. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
Goodness, he didn't have his cut like Samson or someone like that? | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
-No, he was as bald as a coot. -Was he? | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
Yes. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:29 | |
-What a lovely story but... -And not much taller than me either. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
But to survive until 104, that's a great age. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Exceptional, yes. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:36 | |
And how did he get this bronze? | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
He was a gardener/chauffeur down in Thurleston in Devon, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:45 | |
and this was given to him as a leaving present | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
for services rendered. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
What a lovely thing to get. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
Well, here we've got an Italian bronze, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
at the front it actually says "Roma". | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
-Yes. -With a signature above it which could read Banellini. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
-It's not terribly clear. -Right. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
-But it's dated 1881, so we've got that. -Yes, yes. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
And this man, I don't know whoever, if it's father or quite who it is, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
has caught his child with his trousers down | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
for his first ever haircut. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
And you can see the child doesn't really like it. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
Definitely resistance there, isn't there? | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
There's a broken pot on the stand here, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
and presumably this is the hair cutter's hat, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:32 | |
and I wonder whether he's an Alpine shepherd or someone like this, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
who's come back with his sheep clippers, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
enormously big for the job of cutting hair. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
-Absolutely. -Anyway, great subject, I think there's humour in it... | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
the first haircut being quite so ghastly for the child. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
-It certainly is. -Um, and I think if it went to an auction it would make | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
between £600 and £900. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
Right, thank you. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
Thank you. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
My husband bought it for me from a second-hand jewellers in Cheltenham | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
about four or five years ago and I absolutely love it, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
and I wear it on a long gold chain, but I don't know anything about it | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
other than that I love it and I imagine it's old, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
but I don't know whether it's ecclesiastical... | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
Why did he go into a shop to buy a cross specifically? | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
-Because I love crosses. -You love crosses, yes. -So... | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
and I think he thought it was very, well I think he thought that it was | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
modern-looking but fascinating because it obviously wasn't modern. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
Well, gold cap finials, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
and the frame of the cross itself is made out of... | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
cut from solid rock crystal. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
-Now rock crystal looks like glass but it's not glass. -No. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
Rock crystal is a natural material. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
So what someone's done is carefully cut the rock crystal panel out, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:54 | |
and then they've very very carefully made these gold cap finials. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
They've put little beaded motifs around the caps | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
and engraved the caps too. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
And do you know where you think it was made? I don't. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
I just couldn't imagine it being English but I just don't know. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
It's difficult to say where it was made. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
-It looks English to me. -Really? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
-That is amazing. -Date, 1825, 1830. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
-Oh, gosh. -So it's a Georgian cross. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
-How amazing. -And it's the box that really adds to the virtue, isn't it? | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
I love the box, virtually as much as the cross. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
Let's come back to that one and now let's look at this bangle. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
"Dulcis vita" | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
on a yellow bangle, now tell me a little bit about that one. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
Well, my husband again bought that from an auction | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
and I know on the description it just said "gold bangle" | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
inscribed "sweet life". | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
Sweet life, so the inscription sweet life...dulcis vita. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
So I, yes, but I didn't know whether it was in its original box. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
I mean I imagined it was gold, but I just didn't know whether | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
it was English in its original box. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
He's got good taste, hasn't he, your husband? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
I like to think so, yes. I've trained him! | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
He really has. Did you? Well, this is a quality piece because | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
the clasp is difficult to spot. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
-Here on each side, we've got what you might call batons. -Yeah. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
And I think it's worth showing how we open it. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
You put your thumb nail into that little groove, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:24 | |
and you pull it back | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
and look at the subtlety, look at the quality of that. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
And may I just show that... | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
that when you push it back gently, that little bead slots into place. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:37 | |
Yes, I just think it's amazing and it's like the cross in the sense | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
that it's so modern-looking for something that... | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
-It's timeless, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
All right, now let me tell you a little bit | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
about the company that made it. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:48 | |
Phillips of Cockspur Street, London. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
Robert Phillips of Cockspur Street was one of the great jewellers | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
who was working in the mid-part of the Victorian period. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Now at that time, there was an incredible interest for things | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
to do with the classics. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
-And so what date do you think that is? -About 1860, 1865 I would say. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:13 | |
All right, let's talk about some prices now. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
This is very simple and plain. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
Now crosses are not everybody's cup of tea, it has to be said, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
so you have to take a little bit of a careful view on it, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
but I think that probably if it were ever sold on the market again | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
-would make £1,500... that sort of figure. -Goodness. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
Now the dulcis vita, sweet life, bangle, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
in that condition, Robert Phillips of Cockspur Street, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:42 | |
I suppose we're looking at what, £4,000, £5,000. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
Oh, my God! Oh, my God! | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
Oh, my goodness, oh, my goodness! | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Oh, my God, he's going to have a heart attack. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
I hope not. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
How bizarre! Oh, my goodness! | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
I'm imagining this in the middle of your table full of fruit... | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
am I right or wrong? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
No, it sits on the display stand, but it is a fruit dish. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
It is, so have you known it a long time, or have you just bought it? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
No, I had it, it was left to me by my aunt, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
and she's had it ever since I was a small child, and I always admired it | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
and she said, "that's yours when I go" | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
and it was left to me when she died. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
So, other than inheriting it from an aunt, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
-you've no idea where it was made? -No idea about it, no. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Well, it's a type of ware called majolica | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
which is a glazed earthenware, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
it was made in Italy in the 16th, 17th century. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
But in the Victorian period there were some noted manufacturers, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
-Minton, Wedgwood and George Jones in particular. -Yes. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
And this one was made by a firm called George Jones, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
the big give away is this sort of tortoiseshell glaze underneath | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
and this little patch here where they've put a little crescent | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
and the pattern number, is a giveaway for being George Jones. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
-Right. -And it's really a rather splendid thing. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
Made, probably it would have been a set, there might have been four | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
would have gone down the table. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Majolica is really quite collectible. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
It has gone back a little bit in value. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
Did you know the top's actually been restored, there's been some damage? | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
You didn't break it as a child? | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
-No. -You weren't the guilty party. -No I wasn't. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
There has been a couple of cracks. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
The good thing about majolica is, majolica collectors | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
aren't that bothered about damage and restoration. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
-They're looking for key pieces and this is a rare piece. -Yes. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
And I think that if this was in the right sale and the right collector, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:38 | |
it could still make as much as between £4,000 and £6,000. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:45 | |
Really? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
So here we have one of the most famous novels | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
in the whole of English literature, I would say, "Pride and Prejudice" | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
by Jane Austen. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
Now it was not considered seemly for women to put their names on novels | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
because they wouldn't sell or people would be | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
prejudiced against them I suppose, and so her name is not there. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
I mean, later on you get George Eliot, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
who was Marian Evans of course, and people like that | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
who tried to disguise their femininity | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
to get their books published. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
But one of the most famous books in the English language, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
a first edition, 1813. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
My worry about it is, you've got them all here, you've got "Emma", | 0:40:23 | 0:40:29 | |
"Pride and Prejudice" obviously, and you've also got "Mansfield Park" | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
but they're all in such appalling condition. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
-Yes, dreadful, yes. -Tell me about them. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
They've been in the suitcase in an attic for a long time and I came, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
they came down to me from my father who died 25 years ago, or so, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
and I think they came to him from a Godmother of his, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:51 | |
and sort of had a close look at them. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:52 | |
Lovely, did you read them in first edition? | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
I haven't read them in first edition yet, no. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
-But you've done it in paperback I assume. -Oh, yes, often. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
-And watched the telly. -Oh, endlessly! I'm word perfect! | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
Absolutely splendid stuff. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:04 | |
They all need rebinding and so you've got nine volumes there, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
it's going to cost you £1,000 plus to have them all redone. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
Would it be worth it? | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
I suppose it might. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
Are you asking me how much they're worth? | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
Yes! | 0:41:16 | 0:41:17 | |
That's what you came for, isn't it? | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
Well, yes, I suppose it is. But also | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
I was fascinated, I didn't actually know they were first editions. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
-Yes. They're first editions. -I hoped, but I didn't know. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
-First editions but in appalling condition. -Yes. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
-They would well be worth having them rebound. -Yes. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
Because I think that we're talking about certainly £5,000 | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
for this one "Pride and Prejudice", possibly £5,000 for "Emma" | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
and possibly £5,000 for "Mansfield Park". | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
That is a low estimate I hasten to add. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
How very nice. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
-And thank you for bringing them in. -Well, thank you. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
This series I'm finding out a little bit more about our team of experts. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
Now, you wouldn't be surprised to hear that they've all got | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
wonderful collections and wonderful objects of their own at home, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
but you might be a bit more surprised | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
to find out that even they have dropped the odd clanger... | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
bought a fake perhaps, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
or something that's turned out to be a real disappointment. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
Clive Stewart Lockhart, let's not start with that, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
let's start on a high note, with which of these | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
-is your most prized possession? -It's an object which... | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
I'm the only member of the family that likes... | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
my wife and children can't understand why I like it, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
but to me, it's the most important thing I have. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
And this is it? | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
This, this is it, yes, this is... | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
And what is it? | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
It's a piece of Fijian bark cloth or tapper cloth, and it was given to me | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
by my Godfather and you may ask why would he give me this? | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
And I never really understood until, sort of later in his life, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:54 | |
I unravelled his life story, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
which was just the most extraordinary life story. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
-Tell me a bit about him. -Well, he was born in Canada, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:04 | |
he was a typical sort of Colonial, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
he joined the navy and had an illustrious war, won a DSC and Bar. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:12 | |
His ship, HMS Zulu, was sunk at Tobruk, he was captured | 0:43:12 | 0:43:18 | |
and, on his way to a prison camp, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
he was in a train and he decided that it was his duty to escape, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 | |
and so he said to all the men in the train, "Well, who's for escaping?" | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
and only two put their hands up | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
and he cut a hole in the floor of the train with his penknife, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
and they dropped out through the moving train. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
-Dangerous! -And, er... very dangerous...and survived, | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
-and they did some skiing on the way back to England. -No! | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
Absolutely yes, and he rejoined and finished his naval career | 0:43:43 | 0:43:49 | |
in the early, late '40's. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
Disappointed with Britain as it was, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
he decided to buy an island in the Pacific, as you do, | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
and this island called Rendova, which was in the Solomon Islands... | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
and set up this little mini-kingdom really, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
-he was king of all he surveyed. -Oh, and this must be him, is it? | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
-That, that's him, yes. -You haven't told his name actually. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
He was called Ninian Scott Elliot and in fact his middle | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
name was Balthazar which... | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
-so Ninian Balthazar Scott Elliot. -What a name! | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
Extraordinary name for an extraordinary character. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
Extraordinary character, and it turns out that | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
actually a gift of a long piece of tapper cloth is quite an important | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
gift from a tribal chief or a chief on an island, so I suppose he was | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
sort of you know, the chief of the island and he was giving it to me. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
So this is your finest object. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
This therefore must be your biggest disappointment. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
It's not obvious, on the face of it, why. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
Well, it's not obvious, no. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
When I first started in the business I was still living at home, | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
and I was only 19 and one day I was walking | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
through one of the London salerooms and saw a painting by Alfred Wallis. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:56 | |
Alfred Wallis was a St Ives artist, he was a sort of... | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
rather like Douanier Rousseau... | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
he was one of those sort of primitive artists who didn't see | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
themselves as primitive, they just saw that's how you paint. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
and there was this picture and I was absolutely captivated by it. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
But the trouble was I didn't really know whether I should buy it, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
and foolishly went home and said to my mother, "Well, what do you think? | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
"Can you come and have a look at it?" | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
so the next day she came with me and said, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
"Oh, God, you don't want to buy that, it's awful". | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
-She just didn't like the look of it? -She didn't, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
-she just thought it was awful. -And was it on sale for much? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
It was about £120 which at the time was about a month's salary. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
-Ooh crikey, so you... -I was never very highly paid. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
So you'd have to have really wanted it then. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Exactly, I really wanted it and she said, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
"No, no, no you shouldn't, it's just no good", | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
and so I didn't buy it, I listened to my mother...cautionary tale... | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
and anyway, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
today, that picture would be worth perhaps £12,000, £15,000. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:55 | |
-Ooh, no. -So that in itself is a bit of a sadness, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
but just to add insult to injury, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
and I have to say it has become a joke between me and my mother, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
she sends me Alfred Wallis Christmas cards. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
-She bought me this Alfred Wallis mug. -That's cruel! | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
It's very cruel, very cruel, but it constantly reminds me | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
that I should never have listened to her. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
I think that would put me off my cup of tea every time I drank from it! | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
-Clive, thanks very much. -Not at all. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
I feel like Goldilocks with the three bears here... you know, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
big one, middle sized and the baby. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
And it's a huge privilege because each of these tin plate toy cars | 0:46:31 | 0:46:36 | |
is a rarity in itself, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:37 | |
and to have three here really is an embarrassment of riches. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:42 | |
Thank you very much. Now did you start collecting cars | 0:46:42 | 0:46:48 | |
or do you have a wider interest in toys and cars? | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
Basically I've always been involved and interested in vintage cars, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
and I can remember many years ago being at Ragley Hall | 0:46:55 | 0:47:00 | |
and there was an auto jumble there and there was a small tin plate toy | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
again by George Carette, who made these, and I was just | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
fascinated by it and a friend said, "What on earth do you want that for?" | 0:47:07 | 0:47:12 | |
it was about £35 or something. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:13 | |
Anyway, years later I found one or two more, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
because then this is 35, 40 years ago... | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
if you looked carefully you could find these things. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
So, when one looks at a toy like this, you're looking at much more | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
than the actual object. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
The maker, George Carette, based in Nuremberg, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
went out of business in 1917 but up until then, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
he was making some of the best toys that came out of Germany. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
-Yes. -Automotive, particularly, but also trains and boats. -And boats. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:46 | |
These were the three sizes that the 1911 limousine came in, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:52 | |
but if one looks carefully, one can see huge detail... | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
the chauffeur, the lamps, both the front headlamps and the sidelamps, | 0:47:56 | 0:48:01 | |
the levers on the side for the brakes, | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
and the same with the middle size and the same with the small size, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
but of course they came in different qualities, didn't they? | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
-Oh, yes, yes, yes. -These are the lithographed versions | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
and the top quality was the hand-painted versions | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
which had glazed windows... | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
apart from just the front windscreen. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
-I think pneumatic tyres as well. -They did have rubber tyres. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
-Rubber tyres. -Yes, exactly, exactly. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
I personally like the little one. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
-I think... -I do too. -Do you? | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
I mean particularly the colour scheme of this one too, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
but it's the size and the shape of it as compared, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:39 | |
out of all of them, that's the one I'd take home. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
Exactly, exactly. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:43 | |
As far as value is concerned, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
I would have said between £800 and £1,200 for that. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
This one I would put at around £2,000 to £3,000, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
and that one between about £5,000 and £8,000. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
But we have something equally lovely... | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
May I? | 0:49:03 | 0:49:04 | |
Yes, of course you can. Of course you can. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
Back here we have something much earlier. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
Now did this come to you privately? | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
Yes, I bought it privately through another collector in Germany. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
-Did you? Recently? -Yes, yes, about three years ago. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
The maker of this one, it's slightly less obvious, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:25 | |
I think it appeared in a 1901 catalogue by one maker, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
-Gebruder Bing. -Bing. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
But it could be... it's patently not by that maker, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
it's the wrong quality | 0:49:33 | 0:49:34 | |
and there are three or four other makers it could be by. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
-Yes, yes. -All that I can say it it's a cracking car. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
What did you pay for it? | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
Mm, it was, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
yes, it was... | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
I'm sitting by my wife! | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
Block your ears, you'll never know. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
It's not important. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
Seven... | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
The, I won't by any means divulge what that figure was, | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
but what I would say is that I would put this | 0:50:00 | 0:50:06 | |
at between £6,000 and £8,000. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
It's slightly less easy to evaluate the price on it, | 0:50:10 | 0:50:15 | |
but it is a huge rarity and I may be proved wrong on that. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
I'm delighted to see them and I'm really, really pleased | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
that you've decided to give me the little white one to go home with! | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
-Thank you very much. -No problem at all. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
Thank you very much, thank you very much. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
Yes, such a simple little figure, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
almost crude and clumsy, so it's easy perhaps to just | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
dismiss it as nothing, but holding it here I'm actually quite excited. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
What do you know about it? | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
Well, I was given it. My mother in law was moving house and gave | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
me and my husband a box of china, and this was in the box of china. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
Right, and has it been treasured at all or... | 0:50:52 | 0:50:53 | |
-No, not as far as I know. -So you don't know much about its history? | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
I don't actually, I know it was kept in the kitchen I think, | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
she had it on a shelf in the kitchen and that's all I know about it. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
Well, he's a little figure from the Italian comedy, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
he's a figure of Scapin, | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
one of the great models made at Meissen in the 1730s, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
but the original Meissen model is superb quality | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
and really a wonderful piece of early porcelain. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
But this was a copy, but a copy made in England, it was made at | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
the Bow factory and it's really perhaps as rare an English porcelain | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
-as you can actually find. -OK. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
Because at that time the porcelain from Meissen was rare in England, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
people wanted to own it, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
the factories in London at Chelsea and Bow borrowed examples from | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
Meissen and made their own versions, but they weren't as good as Meissen, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
and the modelling is usually rather lost in translation. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
He has got a fair bit of detail added, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:45 | |
with scratching into the clay, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
little scratching buttons and patterning there, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
which is typical of the Bow factory right at its beginning, | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
we're looking here... | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
a figure made in oh, 1750, 1751 and that's early for English, | 0:51:55 | 0:52:01 | |
so it's a... and it's in wonderful condition, I mean, just in a kitchen | 0:52:01 | 0:52:06 | |
knocking around in a box, there's nothing wrong with it. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
So, wonderful, very rare, very exciting. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
Expensive too... | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
£6,000. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:20 | |
Oh, no, that it staggering, oh, I don't know if I can touch it. Oh! | 0:52:20 | 0:52:27 | |
There you are, hold it, you can hold it, there you are. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:32 | |
-That is amazing. -But just be careful with it. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
Yes, OK. Well, thank you very much! | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
I bought these as a young boy, 11 year old boy, early 1970's, | 0:52:39 | 0:52:44 | |
went to a house auction sale with my mother. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
It was the contents of a house in Gloucester. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
Now one of the rooms was a lot, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
and within that room, all sorts of artist materials, et cetera. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
But underneath the table was a big brown paper parcel, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
I was a very busy-body 11-year-old, I thought I'd like to look at that, | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
so I ripped the top off and there was a travel poster in there. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
I thought, "Ooh they look nice", so I went down to where they were | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
doing the auction and I noticed a lady marked on her programme this | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
particular lot, so I said to her, "If you buy that lot, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
"could I buy the posters off you?" | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
and she said "I don't know that there are any posters but we'll see". | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
You know, so I stood by her | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
and she did win the lot, she bid for the lot, I think it was £13. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
So I thought, great, can we go and have a look and do the, you know, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
have a look at them, so went up. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:32 | |
And she said, "Well, how much will you give me for them?" | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
So I said "I'll give you 50p" | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
and she said, "Yeah, great". I took them home and when we got them home, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
unwrapped them, and there were about 120 posters from about 1905 through | 0:53:41 | 0:53:47 | |
to just before the Second World War, travel posters, railway posters. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:52 | |
But what appealed to you, an 11-year-old boy? | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
It was travel, it was trains, it was all, you know, it was just | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
pictures of cars and boats and you know, who wouldn't be? You know, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:04 | |
I mean and colours and you know, it was just, they were fantastic things. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
Because you really have got a great selection here | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
of some of the great movers and shakers of the 1920's and '30's. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:17 | |
I mean obviously ocean going ships, I mean wonderful Cook's ocean | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
passage tickets, you know, I mean this is the White Star Line, | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
really wonderful, the colours, the vibrancy. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
-So this is what appealed to you? -Yeah, when you see a ship like that | 0:54:28 | 0:54:33 | |
coming out of the page at you as a kid, it's great, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
-just what you want on your wall. -Well, it is a great collection, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
I mean from, you know, you've got one here, the Buckingham Palace, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
McKnight, Korfer, I mean the great... he was called | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
the Picasso of advertising design, highly desirable artist. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
The great thing about lots of these posters, they were commissioned | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
by somebody called Frank Pick for London Transport who just wanted | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
to bring great art to the masses. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
He thought "if we're having posters about London transport, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
why not have great artists doing it?" | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
so he commissioned a lot of these artists | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
and then we had all these fabulous posters. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
And you've got everything from really just sort of advertising | 0:55:10 | 0:55:15 | |
posters, the telephone, absolutely top, Frank Newbold, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
great Art Deco designer, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
really wonderful, and you know, as I say those ships, highly collectible. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
I mean these in particular... | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
I mean Jean Dupain, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
born in 1882 very well known as an artist and designer, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:36 | |
won the Prix de Rome in 1911, so well established. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
By the time he started to work | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
for London Transport in the 1930's and these... because of this logo... | 0:55:42 | 0:55:48 | |
would have been done in 1933, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
and they are particularly stylish, I mean they're everything about that | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
whole Art Deco movement, the very elongated slightly androgynous | 0:55:55 | 0:56:01 | |
women, some of the girls in sort of quite masculine clothes, so really | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
very, very stylish and quite avant garde even for the Art Deco period. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:10 | |
He went on to design interiors for The Normandy | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
and the famous liners of the day. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
Well, you know, posters like this advertising the telephone, | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
that's wonderful typography for the Art Deco period | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
and I could easily see that going for £500, £600. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
-Just a little one. -The little one, yeah, and you know, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
when you get into the White Star Line, the cruises, the ocean liners, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
you know these can tend to go for, you know £1,200, £1,500 each. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:44 | |
And you know, McKnight Korfer, Buckingham Palace that comes from | 0:56:44 | 0:56:49 | |
a series and they come up quite regularly and that's anywhere | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
between maybe £1,200 to £1,500. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
-Wow, wow. -And then you come to the great Jean Dupain, | 0:56:56 | 0:57:02 | |
these are very rare posters. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
Probably, this one would sell for maybe £7,000. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:12 | |
Oh! | 0:57:12 | 0:57:13 | |
And probably a little bit more for this one, | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
-maybe £8,000. -Gosh. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
And elephant, the one to the zoo, again about £8,000 to £9,000 | 0:57:24 | 0:57:29 | |
so if I told you that the posters that we're looking at | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
will probably sell for an excess of £30,000. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:39 | |
So for a little boy of 11... | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
That's quite a good return on my investment! | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
I think I need a stiff drink after that! | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
That was a very well-spent 50p! | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
Wow! Gosh, gosh, well, thank you that's absolutely fantastic. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
Gosh. | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
One of the wonderful things about Stanway House | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
is they have their own brewery on the estate. It's just over there. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
It's been there since at least 1735 | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
and the workers on the estate used to get paid in beer, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
so if they did an hour's overtime, they got a pint of beer and then if | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
they did another hour's overtime they got another pint of beer. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
Well, we've done quite a bit of overtime here at the Roadshow | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
and all I've got is this cup of tea. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:20 | |
Times have changed! | 0:58:20 | 0:58:21 | |
From the Roadshow at Stanway House in Gloucestershire, bye bye. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:25 | |
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