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Formidable! We've set off on quite a journey this week | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
and travelled hundreds of miles to bring you a flavour of France. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
So it might surprise you to know we're here in County Durham | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
at the magnificent Bowes Museum, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
this week's home of the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Bowes is no ordinary museum. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Its most perfectly appointed French windows | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
overlook the undulating splendour of Cumbria and North Yorkshire. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
The man who gave his name to this treasure house was John Bowes, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
a wealthy Durham landowner, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
a coal magnate and a Francophile. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
In 1848, he moved to Paris where he bought a theatre | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
and met the love of his life, an actress called Josephine Chevalier. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
It was she who decided to return to Teesdale | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
and set about building a museum for their collections. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
John and Josephine amassed marvellous objets d'art, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
at a rate of 1,000 a year. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
They often went on shopping sprees across Europe | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
and on their most ambitious trip, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
they travelled 1,500 miles in ten weeks, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
stopping at Cologne, Munich, Vienna and Dresden. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
There they spent hundreds of pounds at the Royal Porcelain Factory. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
They also ran up a sizeable bill | 0:02:11 | 0:02:12 | |
at the London and Paris exhibitions of the 1860s. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
They recreated the artistic salons of France | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
with their chic supper parties for up to 150 guests, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
including Charles Chaplin, no less, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
and Pre-Impressionist painters such as Corot and Boudin, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
and a name that's cropped up on the Roadshow - | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
Emile Galle's early work was commissioned by Josephine. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
This is his exquisite cabaret set. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
MELODIC RINGING | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Their most expensive and iconic purchase was a musical automaton. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
It's a beautifully crafted silver swan, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
made in 1773 by John Joseph Merlin, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
bought for the Bowes Museum 100 years later for £200. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
Tragically, they never got to see the final result of their passion. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
Josephine died young, in 1874, and John died just ten years later. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
It was a sad end to a magnificent endeavour. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
The museum opened to much fanfare and adulation in 1892. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
We're lucky enough to see for ourselves | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
what wonders lie behind those French shutters. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Over now to our specialists, who are poised to appreciate the treasures | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
brought to them by the people of Teesdale. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
I want to know whether this Chinaman's been a resident | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
in your home for many a generation. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:39 | |
Yes, it was in my grandmother's house for... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
as long as I can remember and then passed to my parents, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
and suddenly, when they died, I inherited it, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
and it's been with me ever since, which is about ten years now, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
so, he's been around ever since I was very small. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
So, has he developed a Durham accent? That's what I want to know. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
-He's from Yorkshire. -Oh, is he? | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
-Yes, yes. -Aha! | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
-Date wise, he's around about 1875. -Right. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Um, the colours give him away immediately for, erm, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
-being decorated in majolica glazes. -Ah, right. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Nice and bright and vibrant. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
The sad thing is, I don't want to disappoint you, but this Chinaman | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
-has probably never been further east than maybe Whitby. -Aw! | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
Because he's made in Stoke-on-Trent. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
-Oh, right. -And if we turn it upside down very briefly, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
I'm not going to linger because you can hardly make it out, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
but there's a mark there that says exactly who made him, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
-and that's Minton. -Oh. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Minton, the great, great factory from the 19th century. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
And, of course, the Victorians loved anything novelty, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
and novelty teapots like this were coming out of Stoke-on-Trent, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
-you know, at quite a rapid rate. -Yes. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
So, I'm not suggesting you should use him, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
-I don't think... I think he's mainly decorative. -Right. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
Where do you keep him? | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
He's just on a dresser with various other sort of ornaments | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
that I got from my grandmother | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
which probably all come from the same place, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
but I've always thought they came from romantic, far-off places, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
so I shall continue to live with that dream. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
Well, you should! Well, he's on your sideboard, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
but is he on your house contents? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Um, probably not, but... | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
OK, well he's a relatively expensive Chinaman, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
in so far as, if I wanted to find him, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
-auction estimates for these usually vary between £600-800. -Oh, right. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
Now, I don't want to end on a downer, but that's the good news. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
The bad news is, if we were having this conversation about ten years ago, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
he was worth double that, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:41 | |
-but the American market has slightly evaporated, so... -Yes. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
Bit sad, really, to think you're Chinese and you're up one minute | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
-and you're down the next, but that's life, isn't it? -It is, never mind. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
I know it is clear what this is, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
this wonderful jockey-on-a-horse brooch. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
But, as a jeweller looking at it, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
it has so much detail packed into it, it is extraordinary. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
What's your story behind it? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
Well, I was given the lovely brooch by my parents | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
and my mother and father had been willed it | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
by an Army friend's widow, so we've had it since the middle '70s. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
And you love racing, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
-are you steeped in the world of racing? -Yes, I love racing, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
especially up here, Wetherby's probably my favourite. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
-You're surrounded by them, aren't you? -We're very lucky. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
So, do you wear it when you go onto the racecourse? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
-Very often. -You do? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:38 | |
-Very often. -Does it get admired, do people notice it? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
-Yes. -Mm, I bet they do. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Cos I think these sort of brooches, these sporting brooches, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
-were very popular in around about 1910. -Right. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
-I think it may have been made as far back as then. -Gosh! | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Let me tell you about the brooch itself. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
First of all, the first point to make is that usually when we see these, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
they're damaged. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:01 | |
They were used robustly | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
and the enamel decoration on the jockeys was quite frequently chipped, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
so when you come across one where the colour is absolutely perfect, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
-as this one is, it's really rather rare. -Hmm. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Let's look at the body of the horse himself. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
I mean, look at the gallop, look at the poise there, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
the sense of movement that we've got. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
The horse itself is set with diamonds, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
but it's what we call pave set with diamonds. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Now, when they're pave set, they're set in touching formation | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-and, I'm sure you've noticed this... -Yes. -There's a tiny sapphire. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
Sapphire in the eye, yes. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
But it's the movement of the thing | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
that's really well-modelled. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
-Yes. -And I think it's a very commercial piece of jewellery. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
If you were to sell it, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-I think you would get something in the region of £2,000. -Right, gosh! | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
Sporting jewellery, we see it, this one is a very potent example. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
-That's great. -Around here, with all the racecourses, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
-what a perfect thing to bring! -That's great, thank you very much. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:05 | |
I've seen many of this class of cabinet in the last 40 years | 0:08:05 | 0:08:12 | |
and they are universally dreadful... | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
..but this one is the best I've seen! | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
It's Japanese and it was made about 1920. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:29 | |
How long have you had it? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
-We've had it ten years. -Oh, only ten years? | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
But it's been in the family since probably 1920. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:41 | |
Right. Do you love it? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:42 | |
-Well... -I love it! | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
-You love it? -I think it's gorgeous. -Right. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Well, what it is, it's basically a wood construction | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
and the whole of the...superstructure is lacquer. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
This would have been made for Western consumption. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:02 | |
In about 1870, in came teachers from art schools...in Europe | 0:09:02 | 0:09:10 | |
and they started to teach the Japanese | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
how to paint in the Western tradition. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
And the Western tradition was quite different. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
For a start, it had perspective, which they didn't know about at all. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
They painted with a brush which was absolutely flat, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
and here, you've got the result | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
of the Japanese painting in Western tradition. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
And it's very naturalistic. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
I'd guess they're probably realistic scenes round, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
I don't know, Yokohama or somewhere | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
and if you've got a proper Japanese who could read that sort of script, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:51 | |
-they could probably identify where the places were. -I see, yeah. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
It's suffering. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
What you've got here is the varnish breaking up over time. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:05 | |
-And they are all very, very yellow. -They are. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
If you were to take these to a picture restorer | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
who dealt with oil paintings, this is exactly the same, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
he would have no trouble removing that varnish | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
and then put on a slightly tinted modern varnish | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
and it would transform it. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
As I say, it's the best of its type I've ever seen. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
And I think it would probably, at auction, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
make somewhere around £700-1,000, which is an awful lot | 0:10:32 | 0:10:39 | |
considering that the next one down is worth 200. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
-HE LAUGHS -Right. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:44 | |
So, well done, enjoy. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
-Right, thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
Delightful little match case there with a very Flemish scene on it, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
but what's it all about? Where did you get it? | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Well, it was my father's. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:00 | |
-Right. -And he was in the 47th Royal Dragoon Guards. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
-Right. -They went over to France on D-Day, landed on Gold Beach, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
-fought their way through France. -Wow! | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
And by Christmas time, they were in the region of Arnhem. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
-Was this Market Garden? -This was... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
-Gosh! -Operation Market Garden was to liberate that area. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
Anyway, they did manage to liberate some Dutch towns | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
and whenever they went in with the tanks, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
everyone came out from their houses and they were waving and cheering | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
and one old lady evidently came forward | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
and pressed this item into my father's hand... | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
-Gosh. -..and said, "Thank you so much and happy Christmas." | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
I have to say I'm almost overcome by the fact that... | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
-I mean, that's wonderful, but what's the picture? -Well... | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
-this is my father in the central square of Lille. -Right. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
-Erm... -So, that's actually your father there? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
-Yep. -That's wonderful... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
-In this Sherman tank. -Yeah, that's my father. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
He didn't fit the tank very well, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
he was 6' 8" tall, took up rather a lot of room. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
That's...that's tall for getting into a Sherman! | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Very, very tall, very tall, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:12 | |
though he remained very good friends | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
with the rest of the people from the tank after that. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-Wonderful! -Yeah. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
-Looking at it, very coldly as a matchbox holder... -Yeah. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
-..it's worth what, £50 maybe to a collector? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
But what you must do is write that history down. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Oh, right, yes. OK, I will, I'll write it down, fold it up, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
put it in a matchbox and keep it safe. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
So, when you bought these two plaques, did you turn them over? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
No. No, I didn't. I only bought them for the decorative purpose. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
You bought them because you liked them. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Yes, and I bought them for me brother and his partner | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
because they have Cavalier and King Charles spaniel dogs | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and it made a nice Christmas present. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
I am going to insist on your looking at this mark. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
What can you tell me from the mark? | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
Well, I have looked at the mark since, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-and I know they're Royal Worcester. -OK. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
And I know the dots mean a year, but after that I haven't a clue. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
-OK. -No idea. -You're right, this is the classic Royal Worcester mark. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
-Yes. -Here are the dots you're talking about, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
one, two, three. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
We add three to 1891 and the result is 1894. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Good grief, I didn't think they would have been that old. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-Now, let's have a look at the front, shall we? -Yes. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
Tell me about dogs cos I don't know, this is... | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
That is the King Charles spaniel. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
-That's a King Charles. -Its nose is rather squashed. -OK. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-This is the Cavalier King Charles and it has a more pointed nose. -OK. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:43 | |
-So, what we have, what we appear to have is two Worcester plaques. -Mm-hm. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
The marks tell us 1894 and the artist's signature - J Bradley. OK. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:54 | |
How much did you pay? | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
£25 each in a little antique shop in Wolsingham where I come from, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
-which is about half an hour over that way. -OK. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
These are quite heavy | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
and if you rub your fingers along the back, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
-this porcelain feels very hard. -Right. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
-Hard-paste porcelain. -Right. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
Royal Worcester didn't make hard-paste porcelain | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
-until well into the 20th century. -Oh! | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Are they forgeries? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Well, let's take it one step at a time. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Oh, I'm gutted. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
-This signature, J Bradley... -Mm-hmm. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
-That is not how people signed in the late 1890s. -Right. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
Even without that, when I saw these coming across the table, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
I thought, "That's funny, they look Chinese." | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
And I think that's what you've got. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
This is getting more and more baffling by the minute! | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
So, they are copies, in a sense? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
-Copies would be a nice word. -Right. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
-But you touched on a nasty word, which is forgeries. -Forgeries. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
When is something a fake, when is it a forgery? | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
-Do you know the difference? -No. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
A fake is essentially something | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
-that has been knocked-up from genuine parts. -Right. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Genuine old things knocked together to make them look like something old | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
-and comprising old bits. -Yes. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
When is it a forgery? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
A forgery is an object which has a mark put on it deliberately. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
-Deliberately to fool. -To make you think it's something it isn't. -Mm-hm. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
So, the warning sign should have been that they were too cheap. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
-Right. -That's always a warning sign. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
If you see something at the wrong price, then it may... | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
I thought they were quite expensive about 12, 15 years ago. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
It was a lot of money to me then. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
Now, value. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
-You paid £25 each. -Yes, they were. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
I've been out to China, I've seen these, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
and things like this, being made in China. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
-A fiver! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
You beat me to it! | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
Really? | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
Well, there you go. Oh, dear me, you can have them back, Carol! | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
Well, thank you very much, it's been very, very interesting. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
It's been my pleasure. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:08 | |
Yeah... I bet it has! | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
I bet it... Here's us thinking we were sitting on a fortune, Joshua, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
but thank you very much, thank you. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:16 | |
You might have seen a picture of me a while ago in the Radio Times in vintage clothing, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
and I have to say, I've caught the bug. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Look at this, beautiful '50s frock | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
complete with little petticoat underneath, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
lent to me very kindly by Beverley and Zara here. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
And you are vintage clothing collectors, aficionados, aren't you? | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Look at you both! Talk me through what you're wearing, first of all. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
This is gorgeous. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:43 | |
This is a '40s-inspired, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
wartime, kind of, just little cute dress. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
And you've got the hair and the lipstick going on, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Bev, Mum, look at that. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
-The New Look from the 1950s, which is my favourite era. -Dior. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
Fabulous! Now you've got a big collection, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
this is some of it here. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
What got you into it? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Just the era, everything about it, the music, the dancing, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
then the clothes come along with it, don't they? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
Fabulous, how much have you got in your collection? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
-Wardrobes full. -Quite a lot. -Really? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Yeah, two roomfuls. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
Is part of the attraction of the clothes... | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
I suppose they're of a more glamorous past, aren't they? | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Oh, definitely, yes, everyone dressed for certain times of the day | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
-and it's just the whole thing - the gloves, the hats... -Hats. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
-..that we can put on. -Shoes. -And even the jewellery, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-you're not supposed to wear your pearls before 12 o'clock. -Oh, really? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
It's little things that you find out | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
that you wouldn't have done these days. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-No, we're more casual these days, aren't we? -Definitely. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
You look fabulous, I feel fabulous in this dress. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
-Thank you so much for bringing these gorgeous clothes in. -Thank you. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
This is a lovely mahogany sideboard, what can you tell me about it? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
As a family, we think it was made for the house | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
which is very, very old, and it was made for an alcove, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
but we would like to know how old you think it is, for starters, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
and who you thought made it. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Right, I can answer the question of the date relatively easily, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
but nobody could be precise. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
It's typical of the Hepplewhite period, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
from about the 1770, 1780, 1790 period, so let's say circa 1780. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:45 | |
-Nobody can tell you exactly what year it was made. -Right. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
But it's typical of the mahogany of the period, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
and the shape is typical, but very unusual, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
it's got a very north country feel, very deep, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
much deeper than it would expect to be | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
in a smaller London house. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
It was made, clearly, for a big house. As far as the maker, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
I'm afraid nobody in the world knows who made it. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
-Right. -It's absolutely impossible. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
Probably, by the look of it, a local maker. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
We've got all the typical features, we've got the potty cupboard, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
-and I think you've got one at your end as well. -Yes. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
And probably as important, the cellaret for the wine bottles here. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
-Very important, yes. -With the divisions, absolutely typical. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
I want to really examine these chairs very carefully. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
-You've got just two of them? -We've got 12, all identical, all arms. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
-Twelve armchairs, open armchairs. -Yes. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
And they were made for the family. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
-Do you know who by? -No, that's what I want you to tell me, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
I want to know who made them and how old do you think they are. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
Well, you've set me a real challenge. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
I can't tell you who made them and I don't think anyone, again, can. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
The problem with furniture, and one of the exciting things, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
is that English furniture was rarely signed. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
However, the design, this shield-shaped back, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
it's typical of George Hepplewhite...the designs. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
-Yes. -The sideboard less so, it's more confused. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
-Right. -It's not quite as clear-cut, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
but the shield back with these lovely acanthus-carved splats here, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
and these elegant, open arms is typical of Hepplewhite, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
as also the leg here. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
I love the wood, it's clearly a very good quality mahogany | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
and super carving here, mahogany carves so beautifully | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and it shows in the back of these chairs. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
-I think they're 1790. -Yes. -You know they've been in the house. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
-Yes... -Let's check up on them. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
-Well, there have been a few repairs there. -Yes. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
-These blocks are new. -Are they? -You can see there's no attempt... | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Well, "new"... 10-20 years old. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
But this is the original way of making a chair of this type, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
with this open buttress here, typical. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
I think they're north country, locally made chairs, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
of real quality and I really can't remember if I've ever seen, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
in some 40 years of looking at furniture, a set of 12 chairs. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
Very unusual, I think. Are you going to value them for me? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
I was going to try and wriggle out of it because it's quite difficult. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
Well, let's do the sideboard. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
They've been fluctuating recently, but they're coming back. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
It's a bit deep, but say an auction price, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
to be fair, between about £3,000-5,000 at auction. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
-But the chairs... Have you had these valued recently? -No. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
A set of 12 open armchairs is incredibly rare. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
To add to that, Granny, Great-Granny, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
-is reputed to have given two away as a wedding present. -Ah! | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
So, there were probably 14 originally. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
-That is... -We can't vouch for that. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
That's fascinating, the normal set would be 14. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
Most Georgian sets were 14. Oh, Granny! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-Oh, Granny. -Oh, dear. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:45 | |
Well, I'll have to value them. A pair of these could be worth up to £5,000, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
so that's six pairs, some £30,000. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
But we obviously have to add more for a set, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
so, I'm going to give an auction price | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
of something like £40,000-60,000. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Insurance price? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
I'm going to say 70,000, minimum. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Right, thank you very much. We'll put the insurance up, I think. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
Now, what's a man of your calibre doing with a gun like this? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Well, it was my grandfather's gun and it came with a hotel | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
that he bought, so that's how it ended up in the family. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
What about the history before that? | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
The history... We know it was cast in 1865 in Birkenhead | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
by a company which had strong links with the Confederate Army | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
in the American Civil War. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
How do you know it was 1865? | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
-It's printed. -Oh, down here. -Yes. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
So, what does that say, here? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
Fawcett, Preston and Co. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
186... What's that? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
-I think it's '65. -1865, Liverpool. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Well, Fawcett, Preston and Co made what are called Blakely guns. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
Alexander, Captain Alexander Blakely, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
designed this gun to take quite high pressures, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
and you can see this great lump of steel here, this great lump of metal, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
which was going to take a huge pressure | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
and then the barrel tapers off as the pressure goes. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Now, this gun was not that successful | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
because it had a tremendous recoil | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
and so it fell out of favour with the Confederates | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
and wasn't used very much. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
But I wonder how this got into this country, why is it here? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
Why isn't this in America, as most were sent there? | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
Because it was built, well, cast, in the last year of the war, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
so, we don't believe it ever made it across. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
-I see, the war ended before it was shipped. -Yes. -I understand. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
What's the diameter of the... | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
-I think it's 2.5. -What's this? | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
Oh, I think that might have been me as a child. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
The whole thing's stuffed with them! | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
You stuffed a load of pine cones down here? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
-Well, yes. -How funny, and have you ever fired it? | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
We tried to, or it was planned, at the Millennium, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
but by about four o'clock, everyone was a bit worse for wear | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
-and it didn't happen, so... -You were all too drunk! -Yes. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
Oh, that's a brilliant story. It's a great, great gun, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
it really is super, and it's actually got an interesting history behind it. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
What about value? What do you think? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Well, we have no idea of the value. None at all. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Well, it's a really, really collectible item. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
If this was sold in Britain, I think we'd get in the region | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
of £5,000-6,000 for it. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
In America... | 0:24:29 | 0:24:30 | |
-I think it could be worth £8,000-10,000. -Really? | 0:24:30 | 0:24:36 | |
But think what it would cost to ship this to America. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
It would probably cost a few thousand pounds to do that anyway. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
So it's a dilemma - do you sell it here or do you sell it in America? | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
-I guess you'd never sell it. -No, I think we'll keep hold of it, yeah. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
-And do fire it one day, won't you? -We will, acorns and all. -Acorns! | 0:24:49 | 0:24:55 | |
These two wonderfully vibrant colourful paintings | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
depict one of my favourite places, Venice, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
but they're also by an artist who I met in the 1980s | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
-and an artist I'm particularly fond of - John Bratby. -John Bratby, yeah. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Now, tell me, when did you first come across John Bratby's work? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
Well, it's going back a lot of years now. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Let's see - 1954, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
-that's when he just came out of the Royal College. -Yeah. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
He was having his diploma show | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
-and, erm, that was when he was painting through the tube. -Yeah. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
Drawing through, with the paint just from the tube | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
without any brushes or palette knife, anything. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
So, with him being a really excellent draughtsman, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
he was able to do that fluently. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Well, these just sing with colour, don't they? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
Amazing colour, that's what he was well-known for really, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
-I suppose, the '50s and the Kitchen Sink Group. -Exactly, yeah. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
It was like the Pre-Raphaelites, wasn't it? The Brotherhood, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:58 | |
-and he was the head man. -Exactly, and he... | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
they would use domestic utensils in the kitchen and paint them. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
Where others might be painting nudes, models or traditional subjects, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
-they were painting lavatories and sinks. -Yeah. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
-Cornflake packs and beer bottles. -Exactly, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
-all sorts of different brands. -Yeah. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
I met him when I first started in this business, the art business, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
-probably about 1989, so three years before he dies. -Yes. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
-To be fair, he was pretty, pretty depressed. -Yeah, I think he would be. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
-I met him at his house in Hastings with Patti, his second wife. -Yeah. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
His whole house was covered with photographs, views of Venice, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
views of Patti, all sorts of pictures that he'd taken, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
so I imagine your two pictures of Venice, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
-may have been painted from photographs. -Yes. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
Probably, the hotel is the Hotel Europa, which is on the Piazzetta. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
That's right, yeah. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
And I think what's wonderful about his work is, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
that as much as he seemed very depressed at the time I met him, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
we're standing here looking at two wonderfully vibrant, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
colourful paintings which give us all a great deal of joy, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:04 | |
and I think in terms of the way he should feel, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
if he were seeing us now, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
enjoying these pictures with their wonderful colour. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
The energy is still there, as he painted it. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
-Absolutely, great blusters of energy, absolutely fabulous. -Yeah. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
These are painted in the 1980s, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
so you decided you wanted to buy two pictures by Bratby. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
-I wanted to buy one, that's all I could afford at the time. -Right. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
It was just when I retired, '85. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
-OK. -And I thought, but I like the two | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
and I made a proposition to the gallery - | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
if I bought the two, did he think they'd accept £2,000? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:44 | |
So you did a deal. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
-I got two for the price of one. -Fantastic, a good deal. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
Just after he died there was a resurgence of interest in his work, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
so, you might want to hold onto my hand, I don't know, or my arm, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
because these are worth about £8,000-12,000 each in the present market. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:03 | |
Are they? Really? | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
It's made my day to see them, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
they are two very good and enjoyable paintings. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
Here we are at Bowes Museum, in the middle of the credit crunch, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
when lots of people are losing their jobs, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
and this plate is about a kind of credit crunch from almost 200 years ago. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
We're looking at a thing that was all about the terrible worries people had about steam power | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
and steam engines and people losing their jobs, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
so here we have two grave diggers | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
who are idling their time playing cards, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
whilst behind them, a steam-powered grave digging machine digs the graves and does their job for them. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:41 | |
And these were real concerns of people of the Regency period, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
that these terrible steam engines were coming in and replacing people's jobs, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
in the same way as the photocopier got rid of the typing pool, call centres got rid of going to the bank. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
So this is a bit of industrial history on a plate. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
-How did you come to buy it? -Well, I was collecting children's plates, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
and it seemed to fit vaguely in that area, and then we got it home and looked at it, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
and we decided that grave digging was a fairly maudlin subject for a children's nursery, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:10 | |
so it's had a separate place on the cabinet ever since. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
-A place apart. -Yes. -Kept at a distance from the children. -The children's plates, yeah. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:19 | |
It IS what you would call a children's plate. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
It's a piece of propaganda, really. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
People are saying there's a whole different series of these, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
all on the symptoms of steam power, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
but it is really people's genuine concerns about losing their jobs, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
and it's as relevant and it's as real today as it was when this was made, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
almost 200 years ago, in about 1800, 1810. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
And as a little piece of industrial history, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
if it was an ordinary plate it would be worth £20 or £30, but a bit of industrial history like this, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
-with this very relevant, rather quirky, as you say, slightly maudlin subject... -Yes. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
-..it's worth about £150. -Ah! That's good. -A pleasant surprise? -Good return on £3. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
Maybe put it in with the other ones, it won't do it any harm. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
-Thank you very much. -It's a pleasure, thank you. -Thank you. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
I love the pet food aisle in the supermarket | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
because you never know which way the person's going to go. Are they a cat person or dog person? | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
And it's always fun trying to decide which way they're going to go. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
-Are you a cat person or a dog person? -I'm probably neither. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
I'm not a cat person, but my grandmother was, and this is where I got this from. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
-Did she have a lot of cats? -Yes. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:24 | |
Well, it's a rather intriguing little bronze, it's very stylish. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
I really like it, I was taken with it immediately | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
and it is, in fact, a bronze I have seen before, so I immediately knew who it was by. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
But we can get the answer to that quite simply by looking at the signature. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
We can see this name here, Hamo Thorneycroft. It's dated 1884. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
Do you know anything about Thorneycroft at all? | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
-Absolutely nothing. -Well, what you've got, in fact, is a little gem, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
because William Thorneycroft, I think, was one of the most eminent sculptors of the 19th century. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:55 | |
He was born in 1850 and he's famous for some fabulous work. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:01 | |
-Do you know the statue of Oliver Cromwell outside the Houses of Parliament? -Yes, yes. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
-That's one of his. -Gosh. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
So you can see the stature of the man. He was a very, very skilled sculptor. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
What intrigues me about this little bronze is that there's also an inscription on the bottom. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
-Have you ever noticed this? -No, I haven't. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
Can you see? In pen, there is written "Hamo Thorneycroft 1909". | 0:31:19 | 0:31:25 | |
-Right. -Now that's a date obviously different to the date on the base. What intrigues me about that is, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:32 | |
-is that perhaps a personal inscription? Did your - sorry, grandmother? -My grandmother, yes. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:39 | |
-Was she... -It is possible. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
I never knew my grandmother. She died before I was born, but that would tie in with the dates, yes. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
Right, OK. I mean, did she move in artistic circles? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
-Yes, she was a concert pianist... -Ah! | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
..and she had a lot of friends who were artists and things, so it is possible that... | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
and also she loved cats. There is a connection, yes. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
Right, OK, so there is a... there is a slight possibility that that may have been inscribed. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
-You're not a cat person, but you like it as an object? -Oh, yes, absolutely. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
The market has been up and down, I have to say. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
Some of his figurative works can make tens of thousands, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
but I'm going to plump for £1,800-2,200 at auction. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
-Oh, right! Well, that's a lot more than... Well, that's lovely. -It's a good little thing. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
-It is, but it's part of the family, so it's...it sits on my mantelpiece. -I'll stroke it. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
-THEY LAUGH -As we do. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you very much, thank you. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
How do you come to know such a young beauty as this? | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
Um, visiting an old friend, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
sitting down talking and looked across the room | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
-and there was piles of boxes and things, after a good clear out of the house. -Yes. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
And I just saw half of this face looking out at me and... | 0:32:52 | 0:32:57 | |
-Beautiful face at that. -Oh, yes, I know, yeah. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
-And something just fluttered. -Yeah? -That was it. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
-Right. -And I commented, this person said, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
"It's going out of the house, going to be deposited in the tip." | 0:33:06 | 0:33:12 | |
No! Really? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
Yes, it had a funny sort of reputation with it and I think it was just a case of liking it or... | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
-Some people don't like heads in their houses. -I know. What sort of funny reputation? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
Um, well, this one, apparently from a great-great-grandmother, the head was cursed, it was a death mask. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:31 | |
-Cursed? Have you any... -Absolutely. Have you had any problems since you came to own it? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
No, no, this is from a long time ago, nothing happened up to now. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
-So I keep my fingers crossed. -So it's all poppycock, then. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
-It's made of terracotta. You can see, because some of the paint, which is cold applied, is flaking off. -Aha. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:50 | |
It's partly painted, partly gilded, of course. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
We don't know who she is, but I do know that this is based on | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
a Renaissance original which would have been done in marble. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
-Yeah. -I think there's several copies known around the world and they're all in top museums, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
-I believe the Frick Collection in New York have a copy. -That's a big one, yes. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:11 | |
-But they're in marble and, of course, marble used to be painted. -Oh, yes, in those days. -Yeah. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
So, what happens in the 19th century when there's a lot of wealthy people | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
who want to own a Renaissance work of art but haven't quite got the money, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
-the Italians responded and made lovely terracotta busts in the Renaissance taste. -Yes. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
-And I believe this is exactly what this is. -Lovely. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
I think she does just need a little bit of work, but the sensitivity of the painting is exquisite, isn't it? | 0:34:32 | 0:34:39 | |
It's totally beautiful. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:40 | |
Yeah, very lifelike and the wonderful hairpiece, she has this netted effect. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
Oh, yes, with the coil of hair on the back. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
Yeah. Have you ever been offered anything for it? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
-Um... -Do you know what it's worth? -I will show you. I took it... I didn't know at first | 0:34:49 | 0:34:55 | |
and I took it to see a chap who was dealing in antiques in Richmond, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
and I just said I thought it would have been worth about £280 or something, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:05 | |
somewhere around there and he said, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
"I'll give you £2.80." | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
-£2.80?! -Yes, £2.80. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
-Good Lord. Well... -And he laughed, he said, "It's only a mannequin for a shop window, about 1914." | 0:35:12 | 0:35:18 | |
-No, it was made in the 1890s, it's much earlier. It's not a hat stand. -No, no, no. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
This is really a proper work of art. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
It wouldn't have a hat on, you know...yeah. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
Well, you can't sell it, because it's cursed. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
Something might happen if you sell it. But I think insure it for about £400. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:34 | |
-So, considering it was going to go on the skip and going to be smashed up... -Yeah. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
-I think you've acquired a real beauty. -Yes, she's gorgeous. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
She is gorgeous. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
Now, there are two types of coins. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
There are collectors' coins - your Roman coins, your groats, your early English and the rest of it - | 0:35:46 | 0:35:53 | |
and then there are bullion coins, and bullion coins, basically, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
are purely for the value of the pure gold they have in them. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
Sovereigns, half sovereigns, Krugerrands and, notably, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
the American 20 piece, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
of which you have a particularly fine example. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
It's in stunning condition. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
BUT...if I just palm it, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
say the magic word, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
I reckon I can turn it into a serious collectors' coin from a bullion coin. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:25 | |
Here we go. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
It's a coin watch you've got here. Have you tried that party trick? | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Yes, I have, yes, on a number of occasions, yes. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
I've been waiting to do it. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
I don't have a coin watch, so I've not been able to do it, but I couldn't resist. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
It's actually made out of two coins, of course. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
-Oh. -Well, when you think about it, you've got an original 1904 American 20 front... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:51 | |
-Yes. -..and an original 1924, probably, 20 back. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
But, of course, there's no way you can get a coin apart... | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
-No. -..and get the middle out, without destroying one side or the other. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
The coin itself, I think, is about £500-600, these days. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
That's the... because of the high value of gold. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
Do you have any knowledge of its history? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
Not really. It was my father's, and I remember him bringing it home late '60s, maybe 1970, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:20 | |
certainly wasn't new at that point, I don't think. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
They have been making these, basically, since the war. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
There are one or two that are earlier, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
but curiously enough, it's signed Cartier on the dial, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
and on the back of the movement, which is probably almost impossible to see, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
-it's actually signed Piaget. -Oh. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
Now, Cartier now owns... | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
Part of the Cartier group owns the Piaget name. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
They're all one group, but in the '70s they weren't. They were associated. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:52 | |
So what has happened is that Piaget, who made a very flat movement, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
and it is extraordinarily flat when you think about this is a solid gold frame, hollowed out inside. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
-In there is an actual watch movement. -Yes. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
They made a very flat movement which enabled them to, basically, to produce coin watches. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:09 | |
Anyway, that just perfectly fits. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
Retailed by Cartier, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
movement by Piaget and a brilliant thing. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
And this one is in mint condition, and condition is everything. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
If the cover's been bent... | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
-Yes. -..or the edge has been damaged | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
-or in this case, if you look, you just can't see where the opening is. -No, you have to look carefully. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:31 | |
Really carefully. And if any of that's damaged, it cuts the value quite a bit. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
Do you have a clue on the value? | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
I suppose it might depend a bit on gold price, as you were saying. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
-Yes. Well, I told you I'd turn it from a bullion coin into a... -Yes, yes. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
-..um, a couple of thousand pounds, I think. -Oh, really? | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
-Yeah. -Better get it insured, then. -Just don't get it mixed up with the others. -No! | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
Good. Thank you very much. Very interesting. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Ah, it's not often I get the chance to put my feet up on this programme, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
but here I am, sitting in this rather splendid chair. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
But it's not an antique. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
All will be revealed by our very own Christopher Payne. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Christopher, we're asking our experts in this series | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
about the best and the worst bits of their own personal collections. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
This, I'm assuming, is the best bit. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
-Or the worst. -Well, I don't know, you tell me. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Well, I'm very proud of it, but I made it. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
-You made it? -Myself. -Wow! | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
This year in fact, so it's a new, new antique, for the future. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
And what made you decide to embark upon making it? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
I've been a critic and valuer of furniture for almost 40 years now. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
I thought, I've got to put my money where my mouth is. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
I must actually do something and see if I'm even capable of doing it, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
and I love Windsor chairs, and this opportunity came along to make one with a tutor in an old workshop, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:56 | |
and there we go, I made it. I can't believe it myself, I can tell you. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:01 | |
Well, I think it's beautiful. How long did it take you? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
Well, we went to the pub quite a few times, but the actual... | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
about three o'clock, you get a bit bored | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
-and, um, so it took about four days actual work to do it. -Right. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
And these bits here, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
for example, and here, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
do they come already bent? Do you have to bend them? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
-You have to bend them yourself. -What, like this? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
Well, they go in a steamer. It's ash, the light wood is called ash, and it goes in a steamer, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
and you say, "OK, boys," and you pull it out, and with somebody else, you pull it like that, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
-or you can just about do it on your own. -Just with brute strength? | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
Brute strength. You have to do it quickly. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
And then somebody else puts a clamp along and you've got it set, hopefully. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
There's quite a lot of work. I was surprised how physical it was, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
and it'll make a huge difference to my admiration of Windsor chairs on the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
Did you choose it because that's a type of chair you particularly admire? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
-I hoped it was going to be easy to make. -Just pragmatism. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
They're so comfortable. It fits everybody, the form, it's a natural wood, it cocoons the body. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
A wonderful piece of vernacular furniture. Hopefully this will last a few hundred years. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
-Have you put your maker's mark on it? -I did, can I show you? | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
-Round here. -Oh, right! | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
So, we've got ash here and this is a bit of bog oak, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
2,000-year-old oak, just to make it a bit decorative and there's, proudly, my name, initials and date, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:21 | |
so nobody in the future, on an Antiques Roadshow in 1,000 years' time, can be wrong about who made it. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
How wonderful! So, have you got it pride of place in your home, then? | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
-I didn't have anywhere to put it. -After all that! | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
Eventually it went in the kitchen, and I sit there reading the newspaper. I love it. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
I think it's lovely. So I am going to assume this has pride of place, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
-so what about the worst or the most disappointing part of your collection? -It's over here. -Right. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
-Do we have to do this? -Yes, we do. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
-I always enjoy this bit particularly. -Thank you very much. Well, here it is. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
-OK, looks all right. -An Adam fruit bowl. The Georgian period, in best quality mahogany. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:58 | |
-Or so I thought. -What went wrong? | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
I bought it when I started as a porter in the London salerooms in 1970 | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
-and I was going down the New Kings Road... -Hang on a minute, is this you in the picture here? | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
Er, yes, not the auctioneer, the porter. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
-Oh, look! -That's me. -What do we think? Very handsome, I'd say. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
-Yes, they've got a thumbs up there. -Same moustache. -So how old were you here? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
-21. -21! Gosh, right, OK. -So... | 0:42:22 | 0:42:27 | |
anyway, after a few weeks I thought I knew everything about antiques, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
went down the New Kings Road in London and saw this in the window, walked in and said, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:36 | |
"How much is this?" and they said £12, so I bought it immediately. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:42 | |
-And was that a lot of money to you, at the time? -It was a net week's salary. -Gosh, right. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:47 | |
So it really hurt to buy it. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:48 | |
But I knew, I absolutely knew that I'd got a bargain, sale of the century, bargain of the century. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:54 | |
Well, I got it home and my father just fell out of his chair laughing. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
He was a retired antique dealer and he said, "It's about 1950, I think." | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
-Oh. -So here it is, and I really should have known by the weight of this. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
It's just simply not heavy enough to be old mahogany. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
-No, it's very light, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
-So that alone should have told you it was a fake. -Yes. -Oooh! -Over-confidence of youth. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:16 | |
And guess what it's worth today. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
What? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
-About £12. -Oh! No! | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
-Christopher, thanks very much. -Thank you. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
Well, it looks almost good enough to eat, doesn't it? | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
But tell me a bit more. How did you come to own this lovely glass pear? | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
Well, I was given it when I was... | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
about 1959, when I was very young. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
-Very young. -And I didn't consider it very lovely then, at that age. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
I was very disparaging about it and called it "the bomb". | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
It sat in my mum's china cabinet for years. It was a friend of hers who was very artistic, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:52 | |
she lectured in fine art at Newcastle University and she gave me that, and... | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
very far-seeing, I think. It was when I was in my 20s, | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
I sort of gradually came to appreciate it. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
So this was a gift in '59 | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
from a very stylish lady to you as a little girl. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
-Yes, yes. -I mean, what a gift, | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
because, what a gift, I mean, this is a woman who had foresight | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
because, if we turn this very unassuming little pear over, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:16 | |
we have a fantastic name on the bottom, which is Venini. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
Now, Venini are one of the absolute greats of the Italian glass circuit, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:26 | |
and at this time, we're looking, more than likely, at the work of one of their leading designers, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
Fulvio Bianconi, and of course, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
we've got this lovely cased green body here, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
and then just applied on is this lovely little stem and little leaf, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
that's just been kicked on, in a second. Absolutely superb. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
It just shows the quality and the speed of the Venetian glass-makers on the island of Murano. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
Now, I notice on the label that there is a price there of 32/6. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:55 | |
32 shillings and sixpence! | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
I mean, that was a lot of money for a little gift. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
Well, do you love it? | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
I do, I do love it now. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
-But it was "the bomb". -It was "the bomb", yes. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
Well, all I'll say to you is, thank goodness you never threw it around | 0:45:07 | 0:45:12 | |
because your little Venini bomb, which is now a beautiful pear, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:17 | |
is worth the best part of £200-250. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
Good Lord! | 0:45:21 | 0:45:22 | |
Gosh, I am rather stunned. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
-I thought about 30 to 40. -Oh, no. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
I think, er, you know, fruit from Italy's quite valuable. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
Wow! | 0:45:34 | 0:45:35 | |
We're talking about a British institution - | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
the wonderfully revered Queen Mother | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
and you've brought a collection along here that is apt because she was a patron of the Bowes Museum, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:50 | |
and obviously her name, Bowes-Lyon. She was very much connected with both the museum | 0:45:50 | 0:45:55 | |
and I understand your father met her. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
Yes, it was after the war. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
He joined BOAC and was flying on the Britannia Fleet as a radio operator, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:07 | |
and he was the radio operator for the royal flight to South Africa | 0:46:07 | 0:46:14 | |
that took the Queen Mother on a royal visit to South Africa in 1957 | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
and he kept these various mementos of that trip. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
So, the first item is this BOAC corporation... | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
it's what it says on the tin - Royal Flight, London to Salisbury, July '57. And... | 0:46:25 | 0:46:32 | |
..at the back here, we have a complete map of where they went, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:39 | |
all the way from London to Salisbury and back. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
Yeah. And it was I think on the flight on the way back, they were flying at night, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:47 | |
and she got a bit sort of bored sitting there, I guess, | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
so she sat down with him | 0:46:51 | 0:46:52 | |
and chatted to him as they were flying back over Africa. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
And I think on the previous page | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
-there's actually a layout of the interior of the Britannia. -Yeah. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
-Or the "VIP interior", as it says here. -Looks nice, doesn't it? | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
Very luxurious. I mean, they've got a dining table, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
dining suite, and I think it says here "HM Queen Mother". | 0:47:08 | 0:47:13 | |
-A bed at one side and a settee at the other. -Yes. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
And she would have had a long walk, going all the way down here, | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
to presumably where your dad was, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
which is the radio officer's cabin, which looks tiny. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
Yes, he described it as like a little cupboard there | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
and she came up and said, | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
"Do you mind if I sit and have a chat with you?" | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
She asked him what he was doing | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
and he showed her the Morse code he was sending out and she said, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
"Well, can you send messages to the people we're flying over?" | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
And as they were flying up, back over Africa, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
he said, "Yes, sure. What would you like me to say?" | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
And she said, "I'll write it down". And the nearest thing to hand was the menu. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
I can just imagine, if you were Governor of Northern Nigeria, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
suddenly the Morse code started beeping, | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
"My goodness, we're getting a message from up above!" THEY LAUGH | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
-Oh, there it is. -Yes. -So she would have said, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
"Send a signal to the Governor of Malta, my good man, my good chap." | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
THEY LAUGH "I send you very many sincere thanks | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
"for excellent arrangements which were made for my short visit to Malta, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
-"which I enjoyed so greatly, Elizabeth R." -Yes. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
-That's extraordinary, isn't it? -Yes, it's really... | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
-I'm so glad he kept it. -But the final thing is also rather extraordinary as well. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:27 | |
Here we have a gold propelling pencil. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
At the end of the flight, she said she'd enjoyed chatting to him so much, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:35 | |
she gave him the little pencil as a memory, and I remember him coming home, | 0:48:35 | 0:48:40 | |
I was about four or five at the time, and he gave it to me to play with, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:45 | |
and it was my pencil and I used to play with it | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
and then it disappeared and turned up later on when we were looking through things in the house | 0:48:48 | 0:48:54 | |
and I found the little pencil again. Extraordinary. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
Because again, it's got, er, | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
"ER" on it and the royal crest and is in absolutely pristine, unused condition. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:05 | |
-Straight from the hand, via you, at age four. -Yes. -At least you didn't break it or lose it. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:10 | |
No, it's still got the original lead in it. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
And it must have been an important part of his life as well. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
-Oh, yes, yes. He.. -Yeah, he used to talk about how he spent the night with the Queen Mother | 0:49:16 | 0:49:22 | |
and it was a big thing. It was a big joke. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
-So, a big family joke - the man who spent the night with the Queen Mother. -Yes, that's right. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:31 | |
Well, it's a joyous collection | 0:49:31 | 0:49:32 | |
and obviously it's something that will be handed down | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
to you and your family for many, many generations, but, um, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:40 | |
I think something like that is so rare, I mean, personal notes, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
-even though of unofficial basis, in the Queen's hand. -Right. -You never find them. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:48 | |
So they are very, very collectible, but not worth a huge amount of money. I mean, you're not going to sell it. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:54 | |
-No. -But an archive like this, with the pencil and the other messages, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
we're probably talking about a figure of up to £1,000. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
Oh, right. Lovely. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
But joyous to see and so apt that we're here at the Bowes Museum. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:08 | |
Do you have a family memento or treasured souvenir from a meeting with royalty? | 0:50:08 | 0:50:13 | |
My great-great grandmother decided that she was going to crochet | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
a huge shawl to present to the Queen and she spent 11 months doing that. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:22 | |
-She sent it to her in 1903. -That would be Queen Alexandra. -Yes. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:28 | |
So this box is from Queen Alexandra. Exciting moment. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:33 | |
Perhaps your great-great grandmother | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
was lady-in-waiting to Queen Victoria. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
Well, unless I'm very much mistaken we have a piece of royal gold | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
in front of us. Tell me about it. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
Maybe your links with royalty stretch further back in time. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
-So this album is completely full of Russian royalty. -Yes. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:53 | |
If so, then we'd love to hear from you | 0:50:53 | 0:50:54 | |
because we're recording a special edition of the Antiques Roadshow | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
for this summer's Diamond Jubilee. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
If you have a story and an object that helps retell | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
that moment in your family history, contact us - | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
Isn't he wonderful? | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
Well, I've loved him since I was a kid. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
Now, I've got to ask you the all important question. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
Not my age? | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
No, not your age. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
Have you tried kissing him? | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
No, in fact, no, I haven't. You never know your luck, do you? | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
Oh, well, it may turn into a prince. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
You're telling me to do it now? | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
-You could try! -Well, I'm a bit ancient for a prince now. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
Oh, my word. So, where did he come from? | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
He was my granny and granddad's. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
Um, my granny had him for a long time, she died when she was 84, and I inherited him. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:12 | |
-Always wanted him. -Do you know any more about him? -Well, I've always been very puzzled, | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
-because I've never been able to find whether or not it's silver. -Right. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:21 | |
He certainly never seemed to have a wife, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
because he's obviously a pepper pot, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
-and I've never found a salt pot that matched and we never had it. -Right. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
So I've always been very puzzled about him. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
-No, you're absolutely right. There's the piercing for the pepper. -Yes. -BUT... | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
there, hidden in the base, are the actual hallmarks. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:42 | |
Oh, blimey! | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
I've never seen those before. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:46 | |
-There they are, very cunningly disguised. -Yes. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
-You wouldn't believe I've cleaned it. -No, and if you look, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
what we've actually got are a set of marks for London in 1881. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
Oh! Right. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
-And the maker's mark is that of James Barclay Hennell. -Is it? | 0:52:58 | 0:53:04 | |
Yes, and he made some of the most, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
or his firm made some of the most superb models of animals | 0:53:07 | 0:53:12 | |
and, I have to say, I've fallen in love with him as well. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
-He's beautiful, isn't he? -Yes. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
What is this wonderful frog worth? | 0:53:18 | 0:53:23 | |
I haven't got an earthly, I genuinely haven't. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
I think if he came up in auction, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
you'd be hard pushed to buy him for under £2,000. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:37 | |
Crikey! | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
Crikey! You shouldn't have said that, I've got all the rest of my family to come. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:45 | |
-"Mum, we'll just take it over". -He is wonderful. -Oh, thank you. -Absolutely wonderful. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:50 | |
When I'm not filming the Roadshow, I do lots of different things. I spend a lot of my time giving talks. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:58 | |
I go around the country giving talks to different groups, | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
and inevitably, what happens is that someone will come up and say, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
"What would be your ultimate piece that would be brought in?" | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
What I really would like to see is an absolutely super diamond ring, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:15 | |
made in around about, I don't know, 1905-1910, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
maybe studded with little stones around the mount, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
and a pretty stone which might be a slightly unusual shape, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
and you've brought along a marquise diamond ring, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:34 | |
made in around about the year 1905-1910, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:41 | |
mounted up in platinum, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
where the entire setting is studded | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
with little diamonds going all the way round. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
Tell me a little bit about it. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
Um, well, my parents got married in the Congo, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
and my grandparents were living in Canada, | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
and my father brought his young bride home to meet his parents, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:04 | |
and my grandmother gave that to my mother, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
who was at that time a young bride. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
-She wore it? -She did. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
-Do you wear it? -I do. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
In this natural light, do you see the extraordinary lack of colour | 0:55:14 | 0:55:19 | |
-that the diamond has? -I do. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
Now, most of the diamonds that people bring in, and we see and we value, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
have got a little bit of colour. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
They grade diamonds on a letter grading where D is colourless. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:34 | |
By the time you get to colour K, L, M, it's tinted yellow. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:39 | |
Now, next feature. We look at it with our lens... | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
and I can't see very many marks in it either. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
It's got a little tiny black dot, but very, very small, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
but apart from that, it seems to be pure. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
Now, the marquise shape is this fancy boat shape. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:59 | |
The next question is, what does it weigh? | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
Now, the trouble with marquise diamonds | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
is that they're very difficult to weigh exactly. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
The only thing you can do is, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
ultimately, to remove the stone from the mount and weigh it. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
I think it weighs three carats. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
Now, the difference in price between a diamond that weighs two carat 90 | 0:56:18 | 0:56:26 | |
and three carat ten is dramatic. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
On the basis it weighs LESS than three carats | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
and the colour is not D, but E to F, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:37 | |
the worst scenario, your diamond ring in that diamond setting | 0:56:37 | 0:56:43 | |
is worth £15,000-20,000. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
Really? Wow! | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
Haven't finished yet. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
On the basis that the diamond is removed, it's weighed, | 0:56:57 | 0:57:03 | |
it's more than three carats, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
the colour is up to D, | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
and it may be, it... | 0:57:07 | 0:57:08 | |
And the clarity is up there, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
VVS or VS, your diamond ring is worth more in the region of... | 0:57:11 | 0:57:17 | |
-£25,000-30,000. -That's not bad. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:23 | |
So when I make comments such as, "What is it you most want to see brought in on the Antiques Roadshow?" | 0:57:25 | 0:57:31 | |
it will be a marquise diamond of pure colour and clarity, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
weighing about three carats, in a diamond studded mount. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
In other words, I have died and gone to heaven. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
-Thank you very much. Thank you. -I do hope that that price hasn't left your too dry-mouthed. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:48 | |
Take it right back and put it straight in the bank, where it belongs. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:54 | |
I will. Thank you very much. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:55 | |
-Thank you very much. You've made my day. -Good. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
We've had a lovely day here at the Bowes Museum in Teesdale, | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
and I've found the perfect spot at the end of the day, | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
this lovely Windsor chair that we saw earlier on, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
made by our very own Christopher Payne. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
Christopher, do you fancy making another one? Can I give you a commission? | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
Um, let me get rid of the blisters first, OK? Then I'll think about it. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
I'll have to work on him, because I'd like one, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
and then maybe one each for my children and then I'm sure my mum and dad would like one. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:28 | |
Then there's my in-laws so that's another two. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
I've got some friends who are looking for some new chairs, so, let's say, another six... | 0:58:31 | 0:58:35 | |
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