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This week, the Antiques Roadshow comes from the splendours of Hampton Court Castle. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Not to be confused with the palace by the Thames that belonged to Henry VIII, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
this fortress was built 80 years, and four King Henrys, before that. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow, from Herefordshire. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
This week we've come to one of the most rural and sparsely populated places in England - | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
the county of Herefordshire. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Nestled in a remote valley is a little known gem - | 0:01:09 | 0:01:15 | |
Hampton Court Castle. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
You might wonder why a castle was built in such secluded surroundings, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
but the Welsh border is only 14 miles away, and in the 15th century, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
this was a strategic stronghold, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
defending the English from uprisings | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
led by the Welsh hero Owain Glyndwr. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Glyndwr was the last native Welsh person to hold the title "Prince of Wales", | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
but his long-running revolt was ultimately unsuccessful, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
his armies quashed by Henry IV. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
With the Welsh threat under control, Henry IV gave these lands | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
as a wedding gift to another hero, one who fought on his side. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
The lucky chap was the brave Sir Rowland Lenthall, who fought at Agincourt, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
and did rather well out of it. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
It's recorded that the ransom money he earned from the French noblemen he captured | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
paid for the rebuilding of this place. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Sir Rowland managed to secure a license to crenellate - | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
medieval planning permission to turn his manor house into a castle - | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
a great honour among noblemen, and a way of showing one's rank. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
With battlements and turrets, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
he went to town, proudly displaying his lordly status in stone. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:36 | |
Centuries of change mean little of the original medieval interior survives, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
but thanks to the Arkwright family, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
who moved here 400 years later, the spirit of the age remains. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
In the early 19th century, there was a passion for all things medieval, | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
and John Arkwright had his home redesigned to evoke those long-lost days of chivalry and romance. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:07 | |
It took twelve years to complete, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
and the remodelled castle was hailed as a Herefordshire Windsor. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
What a magnificent place to welcome our guests, as our experts prepare for another Roadshow. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:26 | |
Let's hope they find something suitably regal. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
This pair of dolls are absolutely exquisite. Everything you look at... | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
the more you look at them, the more detail you see. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
What do you love about them? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Well, I like them because they're not pedlar dolls, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
but professional dolls, and you can tell that she's selling biscuits | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
and eggs, and he's the gardener. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Whether it was made specially for a gardener in the area... | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
-A special commission. -Special commission. -You say "in the area". What area are we talking about? | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
I believe they were made by sisters | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
and they were made near Portsmouth, I think, in Milton. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
-And are they marked? -Yes, there's a label underneath. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
OK. Let's have a look, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
-Ah, and there it is, C&H White, Milton, Portsmouth. -Yes. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
Well, it says everything that you want to know. Now, the only similar dolls that I've seen to this - | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
and I think that they were by White as well - | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
were in the Portsmouth Museum. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
Right, right. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
And I don't think that they're commercial dolls, in a way, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
because they are so intricate and there's so much detail there, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
that nobody could make their living by creating these. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
I think that these were made... | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
almost as a hobby. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
Are you a collector, or...? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Yes, I collect folk art, I've been collecting folk art for 20-odd years | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
and that's what appealed to me. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
I bought them at auction and unfortunately I was outbid | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
-and I found the dealer that bought them, and I bought them from him. -So you gave him a quick profit. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:05 | |
I had to give him a profit, yes, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
but that's how much I liked them. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
Excellent. Well, let's just enjoy looking at them because, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
if we start with their little faces... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
-they have a very particular look to them, don't they? -Yes, yes. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
-Almost cartoony. -That's right. -But obviously much too early for that. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
They're made of white kid, the eyes are little black beads | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
-and they have this very sort of pointed nose, don't they? -That's right, yes. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
I like the idea of these being specially commissioned, for, perhaps, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
somebody that they knew in the village, and maybe | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
these are the initials of that particular gardener. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-..of the gardener. -I-S-H... And here we've got the date, 1826. -Yes, yes. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
The market is interesting with these. How long ago did you buy them? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
I bought these probably, roughly about four years ago, yes. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
All right, I'm going to ask you what you paid... | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
-You don't have to tell me. -Well, I paid, no, I paid the dealer £550. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
-For the two. -For the two. -Well, I have to say, in the intervening years | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
there have been a series of landmark sales which have featured dolls similar to this, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
and I think that your £500 for the pair, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
has now changed to between £8,000 and £10,000 for the pair. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:24 | |
Really? Wow! | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Very nice, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
very nice, yeah. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Well, it doesn't matter, they're just still very nice dolls, yes. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
The word "pretty" really doesn't do this box justice. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
I think it is absolutely exquisite. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
Where did you get it from? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
-Well, my father collected boxes, mainly smaller silver boxes. -Yes. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
And this was among the collection, and I didn't understand it, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
I didn't know what it was for, which is why I brought it along. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
I see, and do you know where he got it from? | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
I think he'd have bought it in the '60s, when he started collecting. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
Right, well he obviously had a tremendous eye because | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
this is one of the most beautiful boxes I've seen in a long time. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
It was actually made in Vienna, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
but then sent to France, for a sort of final input, if you like, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:17 | |
because on the front, along here, it says "D'apres le Gobelin a Paris Musee Cluny", | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
in other words, "after the Gobelin tapestry in the Cluny Museum in Paris". | 0:07:23 | 0:07:29 | |
And as you can see, this is very much sort of 15th-century style of tapestry, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
but it's surrounded by these beautiful flowers all round the edge, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
which I think are so delicately done. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
It dates from about 1900-1910, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
so the early 20th century, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
but the thing that really caps it, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
is if we open it up... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
it's got a similar sort of scene inside but instead of being painted on ivory, which the front is, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:59 | |
this time it's engraved, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
so you get a stronger sort of look | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
with the same inscription at the bottom, but fabulously done | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
and such an unusual thing to find. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-It is actually, I think, just a trinket box. -I wondered what it was. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
Just sat on a dressing table to put your little treasures in, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
but a very, very nice one, so a real little treasure. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
Lovely plain enamel round the sides here, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
and the great thing about it is, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
it's undamaged, because once enamel | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
becomes chipped or cracked, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
the value drops tremendously. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
Now, value. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
It's quite a collector's piece, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
and I think a box like this | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
is probably worth between £1,500 and £2,000. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
Really? | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
That's amazing, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
-That is amazing. -I simply love it. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
-Thank you. -I want to put it in my pocket and walk away with it. -Ah. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Well, it's got to be the best wrapping I've seen for a long time. I think that's fantastic. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:10 | |
-I don't think you should make fun of my conveyance. -No, I love it. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Let's get it down here, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
it won't fall off the ground. Well, it's a bit of a belter... | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
-has it got a story? -I've known it for the last 50 years. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
It used to sit on a shelf halfway up the stairs, in the family home. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
And then I inherited it in the mid-'80s. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
I don't know what it is, so I just hoped you'd tell me what it was, and from where. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
My guess is Japan, but I don't know whether that's right or not. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
Someone here suggested it might be machine-made, which I think | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
is rather sad, if it is, but I hoped it was handmade, but there we are. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
-And that's why you're here. -Yes. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
It is handmade, all hand-painted, all the gilding's been done, it's very thick gilding, you can feel. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
-Yes. -There's no printing on this of any sort, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
-so it's a fabulous piece of production, really. -Yes. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
You're absolutely right, it is Japanese. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
It's a type of pottery rather than porcelain, called Satsuma pottery | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
which was made really in the Meiji period from 1868 to 1912. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
It carried on after that. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
But it's characterised by a rather sort of pale biscuit-coloured pottery with a very fine crackle, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
which we could probably find somewhere in here if we look very closely - you can see a fine crackle. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
-Right, yeah. -We see a lot of Satsuma on the programme here and the quality range is enormous. But this is a... | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
It's a really nicely done thing. We've got figures here having picnics | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
under wisteria - it's all rather idyllic. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
The reverse has got a different scene... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
We've got a peacock there with the eyes in the tail, but it was made for the export market. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
-It wasn't made for the Japanese at all. -Right, right. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
Condition is obviously important, and we've got a little bit of wear. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
This scroll round the top here is called a karakusa scroll, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
and in Japanese visual arts it derives from octopus tentacles. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
-Oh, right. -Which surrounds the rim, very nice quality. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
-I suppose when it comes to its value... -Yes. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Well, the Japanese market hasn't been great. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-No. -It has fallen off in the last few years to some extent, but it's very large, it's in good condition, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:07 | |
the quality is pretty good. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
I think in the auction world it's going to be, what, £2,000? | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-Maybe a little more. -Oh, wonderful, right. Thank you very much indeed. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Nice thing to see, thank you. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Here we have a picture with a plaque - "JBB Wellington". | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
James Booker Blakemore Wellington. It is an immensely important name | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
in the world of photography and the history of photographic process, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
so I'm delighted to be able to see | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
a picture of the great man himself | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
in his workshop, and in fact, producing a boat, of all things. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
Now, can you tell me your relationship to James? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
-He was my great uncle. -Right. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Married to my grandmother's sister. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
-Right. -Always known as Uncle Blake. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Right. Do you know, it's almost kind of too important for me to explain how amazing this man was. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
He studied as an architect. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
By the 1880s he went over to New York | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
and he met Eastman, of Kodak Eastman fame, and in meeting him, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
decided that photography was something he was going to take up. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
In doing so, he became one of the best amateur photographers of the Victorian period. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:20 | |
Now, here we've got a collection of medallions that he won, mainly | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
for his amateur photography, and they're from all over the world. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
Here, on my right, I have a wonderful example of perhaps one | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
of his most important photographs. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
This one is called "Eventide". | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
This one in fact is a photogravure and it was very well known | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
in its time, in the late 19th/early 20th century. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
Again we have a couple of wonderful examples. Shows how cosmopolitan he was, as well - | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
of pictures that he took out in India | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
of the Taj Mahal, and these ones are albumen prints. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Wonderfully clear, late 19th-century photographs, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
and another one of the gatehouse to the Taj Mahal here, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
with all the carriages parked in front. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Evocative, wonderful photographs of the period. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
Now, what do you know about him as a man? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
Well, he was a much loved uncle, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
not that I actually knew him, but my father was very, very fond of him, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:19 | |
and he used to work in his workshop with him, and learned an awful lot about making things. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
Well, I think his workshop tells us an awful lot about why he probably became so famous. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
He was in fact a major mover and shaker in the processes of mass producing photographs, in fact. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:34 | |
He opened a factory called Wellington and Ward, but he invented | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
this machine that could produce ten million prints in two days. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:43 | |
That's quite staggering. That's the kind of quantity we only think about in a modern age, so to speak. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
Eventually his factory was bought by Ilford, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
so we have one of the most famous names in photographic history - | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
Ilford - and in fact what we find is, that he is in fact a founder member. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
I've been having a think about the value of this. This is an archive of museum quality, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
and in terms of his place in photographic history, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
I feel that this is worth £10,000 to £15,000. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
-That's amazing. -It's an absolute pleasure to see it. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
-Good. I'm glad I brought it in. -Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
Jewellery in fitted boxes always gets me very excited. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
So when I opened it, I looked at it, and I looked at it again... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
and there's something very strange about it, in that it is paste. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:37 | |
Now, tell me, how did you get this? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
I saw it in a jeweller's about 30 years ago in Hereford, and I liked it, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:45 | |
and I had a new green ballgown for a special event, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
and thought, "That's just the thing to wear with it!" | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
-so I bought it, knowing nothing about it at all. -Did you know that this was paste? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
I thought it probably was, by the price. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
-How much was it? -£100. -£100. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
This is, I think, a fabulous example of vintage paste jewellery. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
Paste is glass, so you've got green glass, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
and colourless glass set in silver. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
A few years ago, we would have disregarded it, because it wasn't diamonds, but look how wonderfully | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
it glistens in the sun. I mean, it could absolutely be the real thing. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
Why it looks like the real thing | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
-is because it would have been made by a jeweller. -Yes. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
Jewellery to me is all about quality, craftsmanship and design, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
and this has absolutely everything. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
Now, this today is just so highly desirable. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
There's a real revival of vintage paste jewellery. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
And the fact that you bought it to wear with your ballgown | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
is exactly how it would've been worn in the 1900s. This was made in 1900. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
-Did you have your hair up when you wore this? -Yes, yes, yes, yes. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
Fantastic. Well, that is exactly the same. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
People would have had their hair up, they would have had a great bare chest ready to wear fantastic jewels, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:03 | |
and so this is really, really special, and the fitted case | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
is signed by the retailer James Hardy. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Now, £100, and how long ago was that? | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
-30 years ago. -£100. -Yes. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
I think if you were to buy this today, you'd be looking in the region | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
of around about £1,500, £2,000. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Oh, good grief. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
I mean, it is just absolutely exquisite, I love it. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
The fact that it made me look twice, fantastic. Well, thank you so much for bringing it in. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
Thank you, thank you very much. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
A pleasure, thank you. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:35 | |
We bought this piece back in 1984, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
from a dealer down south and the price on it was too much for us | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
at the time, so I came to a compromise with the dealer | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
that if we gave him a 17th-century coffer, would he consider | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
taking a bit of money on top of it, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
and that was what actually happened. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
-And how much did this cost you? -It cost £500. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
What date did he say this piece was? | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
Anywhere between 1650 and 1680. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
Yeah, and that follows through because if you look very closely, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
the panels are right, in my opinion - I think they're great. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
Can we just come down and have a look at them here, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
because this is what I love, is this wonderful moustached character, Charles I... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
with his head dress and these bizarre wings, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
so he's imitating, like a fairy. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
But these 17th-century candlesticks, that's something to follow, because if you're going | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
to collect 17th-century pieces, look for candlesticks like that. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
And the other thing I can't quite work out - is that a bat? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
-This winged thing? -Looks like a bat. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
But the whole thing is very, very stylised. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
See, if it's later, it would be more contrived, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
but the whole thing works, the whole panels are filled. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
It's really, really attractive. What I found quite interesting here is that when we pull this drawer open, | 0:17:54 | 0:18:00 | |
I notice this little hole here and obviously this hole works this way... | 0:18:00 | 0:18:06 | |
when we lift up the lid, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
a piece of wood went into this little hole here, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
and secured in that area there, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
and so it was difficult to open the drawer, because locks were expensive, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
and they obviously only wanted to buy one lock instead of buying two. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:23 | |
A nice little feature. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
I think you did very, very well. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
Because of these panels, it sets a different precedent | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
to ordinary coffers. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
It's a great piece of furniture which is made out of oak, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:40 | |
say 1685, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
and I would put a value on this between £2,500 and £3,500. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
-Really? -So you did the wise thing of trading up and keeping it. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
-Incredible. -So it's fantastic. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
-Lovely. Thank you very much indeed. -The pleasure's mine. -Thank you. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
-This is a family treasure. -Right. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
It's paintings of butterflies, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
which my father's... mother's...brother painted. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:11 | |
-Right. -Early Victorian times. -OK. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
He was a very ill child and person. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
He was so ill he wasn't able to have a job himself, but he painted most beautifully. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
When he died, his brother | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
put them all together and bound it in this book. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
And if we just open it up to the first page, which sort of introduces | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
the whole thing, we can see... | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
as you say, beautifully illuminated, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
all done by hand and highlighted with gold, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
"Book of British Butterflies, drawn in watercolour by Percy Grant". | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
-And this is the Grant family. -That's right, yes, yes. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
Yes, and if we just go to the next page, we will see - | 0:19:47 | 0:19:53 | |
"In memory of Percy Grant, who after a short life devoted to the study of painting and astronomy..." | 0:19:53 | 0:19:59 | |
And he died aged 28 years in 1894, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
and it is his brother, Cecil Grant, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
who's basically compiled this album as a sort of memorial to him. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
-Indeed, absolutely. -And you've kept it ever since, in the family. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
That's right, yes, we have, yes. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
If we just turn over an example of one of the butterflies here, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
we'll just see how absolutely exquisitely they are painted. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:25 | |
And as I understand it, the young Percy was literally doing these | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
-sitting up in bed. -He was, yes. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
-For a lot of the time. -Yes, he was. And what I love is that so often | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
in the butterfly books and butterfly paintings you'll see, the butterflies | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
are flat with both wings like this, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
and these are as if they're in flight. And one of my favourites... | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
I think there are about 60 in all, in the whole album. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
This lovely blue colour. Almost sort of like a blueberry. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
I mean it's just wonderful, you can feel these butterflies | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
almost fluttering off the page. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Absolutely. The detail, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
I mean I just think the detail | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
on that is absolutely amazing. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
It's exquisite. And what's so amazing with this detail | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
is that he did this | 0:21:05 | 0:21:06 | |
when he was very ill, and do we know | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
what he was suffering from, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
and what he finally died of? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
I think - I'm not absolutely sure - | 0:21:13 | 0:21:14 | |
but I think he died of consumption, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
-which in those days was pretty incurable, wasn't it? -Yes. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
-So it makes it all the more poignant in a way, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
That he was a dying man. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
-Yes. -And yet he was doing this beautiful work. -And he's achieved this, you know, in really very, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
very difficult physical and presumably emotional circumstances, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
he was, you know, sitting there. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
The whole way it's been kept and put together, and then bound | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
so beautifully in this lovely binding | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
with the butterflies on the spine as the memorial to Percy, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
to young Percy, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
it's absolutely fantastic. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
It's obviously a family piece that's not going to go anywhere. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
This obviously is a one-off, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
it's completely unique and there's no other like it in the world. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
I have to say it's one of the most competent hands that you could see | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
as an amateur, I mean, he really is fantastically good. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Also what I love is that it's butterflies, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
in that here was this man who didn't really get the chance in life | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
to blossom physically, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
and yet his maturity, his blossoming comes out on the pages themselves. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
Am I right in thinking that in Victorian times when | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
paintings were done, there was sort of symbolism, and the butterfly, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
the symbol of the butterfly is the resurrection? Am I right in that? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
-Yeah, absolutely. -So that's also rather nice. -Absolutely. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
I think if it came up for auction, you'd be looking certainly at £4,000 to £5,000, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
-something like that. -As much as that? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-Gosh. -It's a really beautiful object and you know, wonderful, super. Thanks so much for bringing it. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:48 | |
-How very kind of you, thank you very much indeed. -Pleasure. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
I saw you waiting in the queue, and obviously, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
I knew what was inside here, it's going to be a musical instrument. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
But what really took my attention | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
was the label here which says, "Bob Marley and the Wailers, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
"Hammersmith Odeon, June 1976", | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
and I really hoped that the instrument inside | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
could have been his. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
I'm led to believe that it is. One of his many. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
-And what's the history behind it? -OK, I bought the guitar in 1982, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
off a friend of mine who had a band, and he decided he'd put down the guitar and you know, do decorating. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
And he'd bought it off a member from Thin Lizzy. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
-That famous band. -And he was...and apparently the chap from Thin Lizzy | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
had bought it from a chap from Osibisa, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
who I understand supported Bob Marley in the late '70s, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
and one of them had bought it off the Marley team after the concert at the Hammersmith Odeon. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:52 | |
And I've just kept it hidden away ever since. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Well, here on the Antiques Roadshow | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
we're always talking about provenance, but normally it's to do with old furniture, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
but it's just as important with music memorabilia. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Now, Bob Marley's classic Gibson | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
is the one that's now in the museum in Kingston, Jamaica, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
and he was known to have an aluminium scratch plate here, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
and around the switch here he had a sort of rugby-shaped aluminium plate, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
and that's the very, very famous one. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
What we need to find is a photograph of him | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
actually playing this instrument, hopefully at the Hammersmith Odeon. Have you looked at all? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
-I haven't, I haven't done that, no. -Well, maybe I can encourage you to do that. -I think I will. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
It will make a massive difference to the value of such an item. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
The story you just gave me - we all believe it, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
but if you were asking me to write a big cheque for you, I would want | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
just a bit more, I'd love to see Bob playing this instrument and then I'd write you that very big cheque. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:53 | |
As it is, great guitar... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
-Do you play it? -I'm learning. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
You're learning. So you would enjoy it. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
If you went to a store today to buy that as a second-hand Gibson, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
what is it, late-'60s, early-'70s... | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
you can get the date from Gibson, it's got a serial number - | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
you'd probably have to pay between £1,500 and £2,000. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
Put that magical name on it, one used and played by Bob Marley. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
you could be talking a figure of probably £25,000 - £30,000. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
-Does that encourage you to find out? -I might have a look at photographs, but I think I might just keep it. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:28 | |
Ah. Good for you. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
It's that moment on the Antiques Roadshow when it's time for a rendition of "Singin' in the Rain". | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
It was glorious earlier on, and what's happened? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
The heavens have opened. But we're going to enjoy ourselves, aren't we? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
-ALL: Yes. -In your blue macs. It takes more than a spot of rain to put us off. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
How good to see two absolute classic Victorian paintings | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
in their typical frames, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
and I can imagine them hanging in a beautiful Victorian house. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:19 | |
-Tell me more about them. -Well, we inherited them about five years ago | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
from an old lady that we used to look after for many years, and we had the choice of what paintings | 0:26:22 | 0:26:28 | |
we wanted, so my husband chose that one, and I chose that one. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
Ah, I wonder why. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
I wonder why. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
There he is... The culprit. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Well, he's got an eye for a pretty lady, that's certainly true. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
This is by Henrietta Rae, who was also known as Mrs Ernest Normand, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
and she was born in 1859, and died in 1928, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
so she lived a long life. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
And what I like about this picture is that while she stayed very much | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
in the Victorian era for her subject matter, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
there was a great vogue for painting literary and classical subjects, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
her palette has become much looser and much wider, so she's looked | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
at Impressionism here, and so it's not that photographic exactness you see, it's much more modern | 0:27:11 | 0:27:17 | |
in its execution and it's possibly a sketch for something bigger. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
Do you have any more information about that? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
Yes, we've researched on the net and it's "Psyche at the Throne of Venus", | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
it's the big one that this is the "Throne of Venus" from. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
-Yes, the big one would have been almost certainly a Royal Academy picture. -Oh, yes, yes. -Yes, exactly. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
-Well, I think it's wonderful, and tell me, do you hang it today in your home? -Unfortunately, no. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
We've downsized, so we haven't got room for her any more. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
-Oh. -Either of them, in fact. -Right, well, let's look at the other one. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
This is by an English artist, in spite of his name - Rossi - | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
called Alexander M Rossi, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:50 | |
and he specialised, again at the turn of the century, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
in beautiful domestic scenes, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
usually of children, and often on a beach. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
And here we have the child here, and children playing on a beach with their mother. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
And again it's beautifully done, very well executed. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
The Victorians were great technicians, but they knew their, dare I say it, limitations. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:13 | |
If you wanted to buy a picture by Rossi, you wanted to buy | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
a picture of a beach scene. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
If Mr Rossi suddenly painted pictures of cows, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
it wouldn't be something that his public would want him to do. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
So they're a bit unloved at the moment, are they? | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
-Well, we love them, we love them. -You love them. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
-But we haven't got room. -But you can't...so that's under the bed. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
Yeah, no, they're on top of the wardrobe, all wrapped up in their packaging. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
Well, probably very safe, very safe. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
OK, shall we start, with the Henrietta Rae? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
I think that this is probably the more valuable of the two. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
And I would estimate in today's market, it's probably worth £3,000 to £5,000. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
-Really? -That sort of thing. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
And the Rossi is a little bit sketchy, but probably | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
in the region of £1,500 to £2,500. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
-Oh, right. -So not bad for your cupboard. -No, no, no. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
But your husband probably chose the more expensive one. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
I'm not sure if he realised that. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
No. Not at the time, no. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
-Thank you so much. -OK, thank you very much. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
A house as old as this, of course, has so many stories and secrets. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
And it has its fair share of tragedies as well. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
Yes, and this is just one such story. The story of Henry Arkwright, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
who was the sixth of 12 children who lived here. This was their home | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
in the middle of the 19th century. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
And Henry at the time of his death, which is what this represents, was 28 years old. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
In 1866, he went with his mother and two sisters on a trip to the Alps | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
and being 28 and in the prime of life, he decided he would like to try to climb Mont Blanc, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
and he did so with the help of a guide and two porters, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
and his sister also went part of the way up the mountain with him. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
And so what went wrong? | 0:29:51 | 0:29:52 | |
Well, unfortunately the party was going up a little-used part of the mountain to try | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
to make a slightly shorter climb and a loud noise was heard to one side | 0:29:56 | 0:30:02 | |
and it was immediately recognised | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
by one of the guides as a serac, a sort of curling piece of ice, falling, breaking away and falling | 0:30:04 | 0:30:10 | |
onto the snow, and of course, an avalanche immediately followed. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
And two of the party were able to move to the correct side of the mountain to escape. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
But unfortunately, Henry and his guide and porters were all killed in the accident. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
So these are the artefacts that belonged to Henry? | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
And were they found straight away? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
No. Henry's body was buried in the glacier for 31 years | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
before it was found in 1897. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Somebody just walking on the mountain about 9,000 feet below | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
where the avalanche had happened came upon his remains in the snow. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
And these items are some of the things by which he was identified, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
-and some of the items that he had in his pockets, and so on. -Incredible. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
So this little hankie - he must have had this in his pocket? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
He did indeed, and indeed, this handkerchief with the blue border | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
is mentioned in reports, and it has his name. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
"H. Arkwright" and "84th Regiment" on it - he was in the army at the time of his death, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
and also you've got here a couple of plum stones, which is what climbers at the time used to put | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
in their mouths, to keep it moist when they were climbing, as they got to altitude. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
-So they would suck on them. -Yes, to stop their mouths from drying out. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
-And here he is. -In a portrait by his sister Mary. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
Mary was back here when Henry was out at the Alps with his mother. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
-That's right. -So his mother wrote to his sister to say what had happened. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
This is her reply - it's absolutely heartbreaking. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
It says "Oh, mother, mother, God's holy will be done, that dear, dear, dear Henry | 0:31:23 | 0:31:29 | |
"is with his Saviour, but how will our broken hearts be healed?" | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
-Terribly poignant. -Terribly sad story, but it's rather wonderful that it's back here today. -Isn't it? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
It was remarkable to find it at all. I assumed it would long since | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
have been dispersed, but it was terrific to find the descendants | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
of the lady who wrote that letter had kept it safely all these years. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
-Yes, he's sort of been found again. -Yes. Thank you. -It's a pleasure. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
I find people either love or hate English domestic embroideries. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
Now, which camp do you fall in? | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
It's certainly not my favourite picture. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
But I think the work in it is absolutely amazing. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
Good, OK, so you can appreciate what went into it, even if you don't. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Oh, absolutely, and I think perhaps part of the reason I don't like it very much is that it's faded. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:19 | |
And the other thing is, we've kept it out of the light | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
so you don't really see it as you enter the room. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
Well, I think putting it in a situation like that has stopped it | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
from fading any more, but you're right, it's not quite as bright as perhaps one would like it to be. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
The first thing to say is, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
what's it depicting? Well, it's depicting an Old Testament scene, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
the old gentleman pointing upwards to the heavens here. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
And if we go up further, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
is this a view of heaven, this wonderful castle with the windows, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
look, made of mica, so that you can actually see them glittering? | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
It's embroidered on pale satin. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
Imagine the scene - | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
candlelight, dark, panelled walls, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
and suddenly the candlelight plays | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
over this reflective surface with this psychedelic pattern on it - | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
my goodness - that would be really eye-catching. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
-I'm not persuading you, am I? -No, I must admit I'm feeling a little bit | 0:33:20 | 0:33:26 | |
for the person who actually embroidered it. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Because she was possibly doing it by candlelight. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
These embroideries were generally done | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
by ladies of leisure. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
It was a sign of being gentlewomanly, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
because you had leisure time. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
It showed that you were not of working class, because you had enough | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
leisure time to be able to spend it | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
on creating something beautiful, but it wasn't just that. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
It also showed your prospective husband | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
that you had patience, that you were diligent, that you were tidy, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
that you were obedient, that you could sit quietly and be occupied, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
you weren't going to be a threat, you weren't going to be out gallivanting. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
It's dating from 1650-1680, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
it's a Stuart embroidery. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
So, it's a family piece? | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
Yes, but I've no idea | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
-who had the patience to sew like that. -One of your forebears, I guess. -Well, my husband's forebears. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:22 | |
-Your husband's forebears. -Yes, yes. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
I think it looks OK at the moment, but there is a problem in the... | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
Oh, you've found it. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
the problem in the centre here, and that is purely time. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
These materials were not designed to last for 400 years, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
this was not the idea, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
so it's inevitable that with dust, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
-with light, with temperature changes, it begins to deteriorate. -Yes. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
But even so, it has a value. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
The market for these is very much driven by the States. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
The American collectors really appreciate what they call the "folk art" qualities | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
of this type of embroidery and I would see it easily fetching | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
-between £4,000-£6,000. -Would you? | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
But we're not going to sell it. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
I'm very pleased because actually something that's been | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
in the family for all these years, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
deserves really to be handed down, and I'm glad that it will be. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
Well, when I see an object like this, it tells me something about | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
your family and previous generations because somebody, way back in the mists of time, was in the money. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:27 | |
Because an object like this would have been costly when it was new. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
-Right. -Now, it is a piece of Victorian silver. -Yes. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
And as far as Victorian silver goes, it, you know, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
for my money, it doesn't get much better. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
-Mm. -Because it's got that magic name on it, it's all in a name to a certain degree. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
If we look at the actual decoration here, it's actually signed in the bottom, it says "Elkington". | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
-Right. -So they're the makers. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
-Right. -But they had a very good art director called Morel-Ladeuil, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:57 | |
and this shouts Morel-Ladeuil, but having said all that, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
-what is wonderful is that you've got a letter here. -That's right. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
Which is stuff that most people in this business dream about finding. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
-Yeah. -Because it's from Elkington themselves! | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
-Can I read some of this? -You can. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:16 | |
It's Elkington & Co. Ltd, 1899, OK. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
"This silver tazza you sent us for description is in repousse chasing | 0:36:20 | 0:36:25 | |
"by Morel-Ladeuil, principal designer, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
"Messrs Elkington. The work is very costly, being the original and no copy of it". | 0:36:28 | 0:36:35 | |
And "it was exhibited at the Vienna Exhibition" | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
and then it goes on to tell us that the subjects represent the seasons. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
-That's right. -With summer being represented by this nubile, gossamer-draped, naked lady. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:48 | |
But let's just have a look at the construction, let's just start with the base. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
-Can you see these crowing cockerels? -Yeah, they're lovely. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
Look at the quality of the casting, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
and they've been chiselled to get that wonderful detail, so they herald the morning. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
-Yes, beautiful. -And then we find our way up to this wonderful, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:09 | |
this repousse work, which has been sort of beaten from behind and then chased, all hand done. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
-Fabulous. -I've just checked the hallmark, and the hallmark in actual fact is Birmingham, 1859. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:20 | |
-Is it? -So it had been around for some time. -Right. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
So it goes without saying that they'd had it in their showroom | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
-as a great example. -Right, yes. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
-And they'd bring it out for international exhibitions. -Oh, wow. Wow. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
So there, it's in your family, you've just grown up with it, I assume? | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
-I have, loved it, we love it. -You do? -Yes. -So that's all that matters, really. -That's right, it is. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
But there again, you know, we have to think about the sort of value that we're looking at here really, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
-and it's a tricky one, because there isn't another. -Well, no, I thought that. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
I think that if I wanted to buy this, I wouldn't get any change from somewhere between | 0:37:51 | 0:37:56 | |
-at least £5,000 to £6,000. -Wow! Fabulous. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
So, it seems a shame to put a bunch of grapes on it really, doesn't it? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
What do you suggest? | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
Well, I think bananas actually, I'd put bananas all the way round, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
-it would just look a treat, wouldn't it? -Oh. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
-But what a wonderful thing to treasure. -Thank you, it's lovely. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
"Elizabeth...Cooper, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
"born April 14th... | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
"1771". | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
So who was Elizabeth Cooper? | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
I assume she was my great-great-grandmother, or some relative on my grandfather's side. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
Great-great-grandmother? Come on, I think there are a few more "greats". | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
-Well, another great then. -I think we've got a few greats, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
-so it's your great great grandmother. -Yeah. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
On your mother's side. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
-On my grandfather's side. -Grandfather's side, so you're a Cooper that married somebody else. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
-Yeah. -Got yer. 1771! | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
It's absolutely bang on, that's exactly how old this is. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
-It's 240 years old. -Yes. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:58 | |
-Well, that's nice. -They lived in Wordsley, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
in the Stourbridge area, so is it from there? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
Important glassmaking centre. One can't tell, you know, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
it doesn't say, unlike ceramics, it doesn't tell you on the tin... | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
-No. -..who made it. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
But this is certainly an English wine goblet of that period. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
Just at a point where the mid-18th-century drinking glasses | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
which had those tiny little bowls, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
turned, because of a change in drinking etiquette of the period, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
into the big goblets that we see before us. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
-Right. -That's a real blinder, isn't it? I mean, funnily enough, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
it's got hops on here which means that it's for drinking beer. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:35 | |
-Beer, beer. -It's a beer glass. -Is it a beer glass? -Yes, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
and it's as English as the day is born, it's absolutely right, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
it's a lovely form. Do you use it? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
No, it's in a glass cabinet. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
-Oh, I think once in a while - Christmas Day. -Should I, should I? I wouldn't trust myself. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
No. I think every Christmas, you should toast her health and say, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
"Thanks Grandma, great-great-great great-great Grandma". | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
And "to your £400 drinking glass". | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
Really? | 0:40:00 | 0:40:01 | |
Very nice, thank you. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
In the bottom left hand corner is a monogram, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
and it's the monogram of the most prominent watercolourist at work | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
in England in the late 19th century - | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
-Myles Birket Foster. -Didn't know that. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
How did it come into your life? | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
It's quite a story, actually. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
I was a dairy farmer and I bred dairy shorthorn cattle, which is the subject of the picture. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
In 1986, the eldest of my children got married | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
-and we had the reception, after the wedding service, at the farm. -Right. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
It went on until the evening. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
It was later in the evening, all the guests left and one of them bumped into a cow on the way out | 0:40:41 | 0:40:47 | |
because they had to drive out through the field. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
-He bumped into a cow. -He drove his car into a cow. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
OK, so your daughter's guest bumps into one of your cows. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
What happens next? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Well, then it came to an insurance claim, compensation for the cow, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
because the cow had been entered to be exhibited at the Royal Show four weeks later. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:08 | |
Oh, right, so it was a special cow? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
It was a special cow - she was lamed, it hurt her leg, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
so she was unable to be shown, so there was a financial loss involved. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
And although his insurance company would mend the car, it wouldn't pay for mending the cow. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:24 | |
So I was a bit miffed about it at the time, but he was a very good friend of mine, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:31 | |
so I didn't upset him, and I didn't say anything. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
Three, four years later, I think, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:35 | |
he passed away, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
and I was very surprised to be told that he'd left me this picture, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
which I'd much admired in his house, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
-in his will. -Of the same type of cow that he'd knocked. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
The same type of cow that he'd knocked and that I'd bred. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
Well, he's given you a watercolour | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
by a really very eminent water colourist, much copied, much faked. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
Myles Birket Foster is known for his rather sweet, | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
but very precise images of rustic England, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
particularly rather pretty girls in meadows, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
anything to do with farming and the outdoors, and cottages and what-have-you. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
And although he appears rather saccharine and sweet, in fact, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
what distinguishes him from artists of the period is how precise he is. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
You can understand every form. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:21 | |
If you look at the way those cows are done, if you look at the way | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
that the eaves are portrayed, or the little face of the farm boy behind, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
they're all very complete, very crisp, very credible images, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
which is what I really like about Birket Foster. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
Can I ask you a question? This picture, painted in about 1870-1880, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
is actually a rather special thing. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
What was your financial loss on your prize cow? | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
The cow involved was valued at about £1,000 at the time she was hit. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:54 | |
And I suppose the value would have been reduced by about £600. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
Well, that's rather sad. | 0:42:58 | 0:42:59 | |
-After the accident. -Well, I must say I'm beginning to rather feel for the cow. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:04 | |
But it does have a happy ending. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
That £600 that you lost | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
has been replaced with a picture worth about £2,500. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
Well, thank you very much. Brilliant. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
Every Roadshow is different. We never know what's going to turn up, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
and sometimes the most unlikely things are brought along. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
But then there are items that our experts claim to see, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
week in, week out, at a Roadshow. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
But this series, I'm asking them what would they most like to see, | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
what would be their dream object if it turned up on their table? | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
Now, Alastair Dickenson silver specialist, of course, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
what about what you see most often, and what do you see brought along, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
in their hundreds and thousands? | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
I see, most of the time, things like Britannia metal teapots. | 0:43:55 | 0:44:00 | |
-Britannia metal - what's that? -Yeah, Britannia metal is an alloy of tin - mostly tin, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
90% tin, about 8% copper, and 2% antimony. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
But it wasn't until the invention of electroplating in about 1840, | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
that they started to plate it, and make it look like silver. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
One of the ways of telling that this is a piece of Britannia metal | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
is that it's actually stamped "EPBM", | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
"Electroplated Britannia Metal". | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
Similar to electroplated nickel silver which is stamped "EPNS". | 0:44:27 | 0:44:32 | |
-Which is more valuable? -Which is slightly more valuable. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
Britannia metal - the big problem with it, is that so much of it | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
is in terrible condition because you might see a black spot on it. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:46 | |
People think that black spot is probably tarnish. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
If we look at this piece, which is a hot water pot, dated about 1870, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
got a black spot here. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
That's not tarnish, that's the base metal showing through from the electroplating which is covering it. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:03 | |
-So the more you clean it, the more you reveal the base metal. -Exactly. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
So presumably you must get a lot of people turning up at the table | 0:45:06 | 0:45:07 | |
thinking "I've got a lovely piece of silver here, a bit grubby", | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
but a lovely piece, and then they're a bit gutted really, when they find it's only worth a few pence. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
They are very polite and smile sweetly, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
and I do my best to bring them down gently. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
Well, if this poor old hot water jug | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
is something you see in its hundreds and thousands - | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
poor, unloved hot water jug - what would you most like to see? | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
If you ask anybody in silver, "What's the most famous name?" | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
they're probably going to answer "Paul de Lamerie". | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
He started his career in 1713, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
but by 1716, he was goldsmith to the king, so he was a very talented chap, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:48 | |
right at a young age. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
But by the time we get to the mid-18th century, he's really flying high. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:55 | |
I've always wanted to find these candelabra | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
in this picture here. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
In the high Rococo style with these male torsos holding these branches, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:07 | |
all very ornate, very asymmetrical, typical Rococo. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
But these have an interesting history. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
They were made for George Anson, Admiral of the Fleet, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
and in 1744 he captured a Spanish treasure ship | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
that was sailing from Manila to Acapulco. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:28 | |
But what a treasure ship, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
because when he arrived home in Portsmouth, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
32 wagons were loaded with silver treasure. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:38 | |
-Off the ship. -Off the ship, including 2,600,000 pieces of eight, | 0:46:38 | 0:46:44 | |
150,000 ounces of silver, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
and ten gold bars for good measure. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
Now, Anson's share of that booty was enormous, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
enough for him to build and buy a huge house which he had in Hertfordshire called Moor Park. | 0:46:55 | 0:47:01 | |
And he called in the best silversmith of the day - Paul de Lamerie - | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
to make silver for that house. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
And after his death, they passed through various generations | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
of the family, and ended up with the Earls of Lichfield, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:16 | |
who put everything into auction in 1893, | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
when they made about £780, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
-which was a lot of money in 1893. -I'll say. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
-And they've disappeared from that time. -And they've never been seen since then? | 0:47:25 | 0:47:30 | |
They've not been seen since then, and I would love to know where they are. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:35 | |
-So this is the only record we've got. -This is the only record we've got. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
-And if they did appear now... -Yes? | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
What would they be worth? | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
Probably £1.5m, £2m. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
Anyone got one of these? Wow! | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
Yeah, they are spectacular looking. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:59 | |
-So, you'd rather have these than this. -Yes. -Lovely hot water jug. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
It's a tough choice, but... | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
I'm afraid so. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:06 | |
If you think you know where these candelabra are - if you see one - | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
if one is just lurking unloved in your attic, who knows? | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
Come along to the Roadshow, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
or contact us at our website, which is: | 0:48:17 | 0:48:23 | |
Well, this takes me back to the 1950s, Whirlygig children's TV, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:39 | |
and a Pelham puppet. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
Now, Bob Pelham, who started the puppets - | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
in World War II, he was called "the wonky donkey officer" | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
because he produced donkeys that moved around. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
When he left, and started up in Marlborough and started producing these | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
fantastic puppets, and they were incredibly successful at the time. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:02 | |
Here he is...and of course, | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
they had their own TV show. When did you get them? | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
Well, early 1950s, yes. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
Because he came into production in '52, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
and I remember him on the television, with his friends Colonel Beetroot... | 0:49:13 | 0:49:19 | |
-Do you remember Colonel Beetroot? -I think I do. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:20 | |
..Who remembers Colonel Beetroot? Does anyone? Have we got anybody? | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
-Colonel Beetroot and Susie Swede. -Oh. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
And do you know, Emily, he was a bit of a rascal on the television, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:33 | |
he was a bit naughty, and the funny thing about him is | 0:49:33 | 0:49:38 | |
that not a lot of people liked him. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:39 | |
-Oh, didn't they? -No, but what is wonderful here is that you have him in tremendous condition. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:45 | |
Your granny must have been a very good girl when she was little, | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
because she's looked after him, very, very well. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
And he's in his original early box with all the documentation, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:56 | |
-you've kept everything. -Yes. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
Emily, do you like him? | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
You do? | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
Well, you'll have to think of a little story for Mr Turnip, I think. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
So, in terms of value, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
Pelham puppets have gone down, there are a lot of similar ones we see, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
they range from, I don't know, £50, maybe £100. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:17 | |
And of course, he wasn't popular. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
But because of that, he's worth a little bit more than some | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
of the other ones, and because Granny was such a good girl, and kept him | 0:50:25 | 0:50:30 | |
in such good condition, and all his box, would you like to know how much he's worth? | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
-Because he's very old. -He's very old. -And very interesting. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
Yes, and he's as old as Granny and I. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
So that's not very old. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
Before we let that one slip. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
But would it surprise you | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
if I told you that he would probably sell for about £1,200? | 0:50:51 | 0:50:57 | |
-THEY GASP -No! | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
Goodness gracious. Well, I must say, I've never seen another one, ever, ever. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:07 | |
Well, he's more special than I ever thought he would be. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
Well, this is "Select Orchidacaeous Plants" and it's the finest copy | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
that I think I've ever seen of it. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
It's by Robert Warner, here, with the notes on the culture | 0:51:21 | 0:51:26 | |
by Benjamin Williams, and the date is 1862 to 1865, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
so it came out in parts. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
The reason I say it's such a fine copy | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
is that it has a very good presentation inscription. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
It says, "Presented to Alfred Ernest Warner on his wedding day, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:46 | |
"3rd December 1878 by his affectionate uncle, the author, Robert Warner". | 0:51:46 | 0:51:52 | |
And so what relationship was Alfred to you? | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
He would have been the brother of my great-great-grandfather. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
All the Warners have been very keen gardeners and that's passed down the generations. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:04 | |
Now this plate here is particularly beautiful - | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
lovely greens and gorgeous purples and mauves, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
with a little bit of red, and all that sort of thing. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
So really, this book is a sort of heirloom for you. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
-It is. It is, indeed, yes. -And an heirloom that you're going to give your daughters. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
-Yes, I've got a real problem now, because I have two... -Well, of course you have, two daughters. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:27 | |
So I have to find another copy of the book. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
Yes, absolutely, so what will you do with your heirloom? Do you like it? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
-Yes. -You do? -Yes. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:36 | |
-I think just look at it, admire it. -I think so. -Be very careful with it. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
I think it's absolutely incredible. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
These plates are just absolutely delicious. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
I mean look at that, it's a tiger orchid, beautifully hand-coloured, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
and looks absolutely tremendous. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
That is quite a feat of Victorian colouring. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
Some of them almost have a sheen, almost a gloss over parts of the image. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
Oh, yes, yes, that was often applied, it is the egg white which is actually put on the paint, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:05 | |
which gives them that gloss, that depth of feeling. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
And this one here, just one more there, which is pure white. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
Do you grow orchids at home? Do you have them? | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
We do. We've got one growing in our toilet at the moment. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
So what do you do when you want to go? | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
Dear, oh, dear. No, this is lovely, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
its an absolutely fantastic book, and I believe you bought it recently. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:31 | |
I did, it was part of the estate | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
of my cousin who died, and my other cousins very kindly let me buy it | 0:53:34 | 0:53:40 | |
at the probate valuation at the time. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
-Mm, and what was the probate valuation? -Do I really have to tell you that? | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
-Well, you want me to give something to you. -It was about £2,000. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:51 | |
Right, well, I will have to value it. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
It's the best copy I've ever seen, presentation copy. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
If you've got two girls, one of them's going to divorce you because you've got to give it to one of them. | 0:53:56 | 0:54:02 | |
I would say it's worth between £8,000 and £10,000. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:07 | |
Well, that was a wonderful reaction from you lot. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:11 | |
That's the problem. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
-Expensive problem. -Wonderful, thank you for bringing it in. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
Thank you very much for seeing it. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
We've got two Chinese jade carvings here of lotus. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
Last week I was in a park, just outside Beijing, and you could see, | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
going into the far, far distance, lotus, absolutely fabulous. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
When you see them like that, you can understand why the Chinese get | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
so very, very excited and why they use them so much. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
They represent purity - | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
I think it's because they rise out of squelchy filthy mud, but they come out looking perfect and clean, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
and you tend to see all the Bodhisattvas, the gods, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
Buddhas, seated on lotus thrones, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
-they're fabulous things. -Oh, right. -Anyway, how did you get them? | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
My great-grandfather bought them in the 1940s and he had a collection | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
of 16 pieces, and unfortunately, now we only have four of them, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
two of which are here, and we don't know anything about them, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
so we thought we'd bring them along and see what we could find out. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
Great, really nice things to see. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
This one here | 0:55:08 | 0:55:09 | |
is just a lotus with its pod and a bud there. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
This one's got all sorts of things going on - | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
if we look round it, it's got... Have you seen that - a bat? | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
Oh, no, I never saw that before. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
Bats represent blessings and happiness. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
-Oh, right. -We've got bamboo here, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
this represents fidelity. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
There's also I think... Yes, there is a... | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
Just make out those scrolls at the end, that's a lingi fungus, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
which represents longevity, so we've got a sort of symphony of symbolism in Chinese art here. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
-Yes. -It's a really nice thing. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
Jade's a really hard material, it's carved by wearing it down | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
by abrasion, so to carve that is a hell of a thing, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
really quite a feat. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
We don't know how it got the brown marks on the back, unfortunately, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
so if you could tell me, that would be quite interesting. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
Yeah, I'll put it down for a second. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
If you take a jade boulder... | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
-Yeah. -..from a river, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
-the outside is brown. -Oh, right, I never knew that. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
When you carve it, you carve into the centre and the centre of the | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
-stone is clear, so this is the skin from the outside of the stone. -Right. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
And they leave it there to highlight it, it's there entirely deliberately | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
and it's something that the collectors admire, they like it. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
-Right. -It isn't dirt, it is supposed to be like that. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
I thought it was burnt. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
No, it's really nice. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
Dating jade is difficult. This one, I think, is 19th century, this is possibly at the end of the 18th, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:32 | |
so really good things really. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
Um, have you had a valuation before? | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
Yes, in 1951 my great-grandfather died. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
And my great grandmother had them all insured so we've got | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
the documentation of all 16 pieces. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
So we're not 100% sure which ones we've actually got out of the sixteen, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:53 | |
but the valuations we've got are that one of them was worth 85... | 0:56:53 | 0:57:00 | |
-I think it's shillings, is it? -Eighty five, no pounds, £85. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
£85, and the other one was £225 and that was in 1951. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:07 | |
That's quite a lot of money. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
-Yes. -Well... -A lot of money. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
Yeah. Well, they've gone up a bit since then. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
The Chinese market is good, the Chinese like buying jades. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
And this one's gone up quite a lot | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
-this one might be now about £3,000. £4,000 perhaps. -Right. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:23 | |
This one's probably gone up about a hundred times since then. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
-Right. -That's about £15,000 to £20,000. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
-Wow! -What happened to the rest? | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
Just different family members got different pieces. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
Obviously it's spread out and we've just got these two, and another two, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:42 | |
-so, yes. -You need to round them up. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
Yes, we do really, yes. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
Well, I'm amazed, | 0:57:48 | 0:57:52 | |
and so will my Mum be. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
Wow, thank you. | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
Thank you very much, | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
-they're terrific things. -Thank you. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
Emma Peel, in "The Avengers" - an iconic '60s series, who could forget it? | 0:58:05 | 0:58:10 | |
Now, look at that cat suit. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
Now look at this catsuit! Someone has brought along to the Roadshow today the very selfsame catsuit | 0:58:13 | 0:58:18 | |
that Emma Peel wore in this series, and I couldn't resist trying it on. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:22 | |
I wore Shirley Bassey's coat in St Fagans, and now this! Couldn't be any better. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:27 | |
I hope you've enjoyed this Roadshow half as much as I have. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:30 | |
From Hampton Court Castle, until next time, bye-bye. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:34 | |
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