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Rarely do we come to a location that has

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such a surprising and varied history.

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Yes, it is a stately home,

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to the Delaval family for the last 300 years,

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but it was also once used as a prison.

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Welcome back to the Antiques Roadshow

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from Seaton Delaval Hall in Northumberland.

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This is a recently acquired National Trust property

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which hides a remarkable past.

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After the Allied victory at El Alamein in 1942

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and the subsequent invasion of Italy,

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German prisoners-of-war were brought to England,

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and those that were brought to the North East, to work on the land,

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were held here at Seaton Delaval Hall,

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otherwise known as "Camp 69",

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probably one of the most,

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if not THE most, impressive-looking POW camps in the British Isles.

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This uninhabited stately home

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was a much more relaxed prisoner-of-war camp

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than others in the country.

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At its peak, there were 66 German men living here,

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with only three soldiers to guard them.

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The men slept in both wings of the house, in this room -

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though it was nothing like as grand as this, of course.

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There was no electricity,

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no furniture. They just had the bunk beds that they slept in

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and, according to Red Cross reports of the time,

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the place was so damp and cold

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that the men suffered from diseases like TB and bronchitis.

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The prisoners had to get up at 5am, get washed and dressed,

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ready to be out on parade in the courtyard by 6am.

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Most were taken by bus or lorry to work on local farms.

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Considering how severe conditions were for British POWs

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in other parts of Europe,

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the restrictions on German prisoners here at Seaton Delaval Hall

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seem pretty relaxed in comparison.

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They were allowed to walk unescorted

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within a five-mile radius of the hall,

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and as they didn't work on Sundays,

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they could come to worship here,

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at the Church of Our Lady, in the grounds.

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Of course, friendships and relationships

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developed between local people,

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particularly here, where, in the summer,

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the German prisoners would sit in the gardens,

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chatting to the estate manager's children, watching them play.

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One of those children, then a six-year-old girl,

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still lives and works here,

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and she can remember clearly the day the German soldiers left to go home,

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leaving behind their cat Mushie and six kittens.

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And they also left behind this - a wooden toy they'd made.

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Can you see how the lead weight

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moves the arm of the farmer's wife?

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She's throwing out the grain for the chickens to peck at.

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And they gave it to that little girl, as a present.

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We'll get a chance to meet her and hear more of her story.

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For now, though, the grounds are filling up

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as we start another day at the Antiques Roadshow.

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Racing in the family, at all?

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The mother-in-law was part of

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a family bookmaking business in Northumberland.

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It's just passed through the family now.

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-Oh, don't know from when, exactly?

-No.

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Racehorse in a gold frame, set with gems,

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and then on the back an inscription.

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-May I read it?

-Yes.

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"Lord Westmoreland's Merry Heart,

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"winner of the City and Suburban, in the year 1864."

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Yeah.

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So that dates it extremely well.

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It looks a bit like glass, doesn't it?

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-Yeah.

-It's not.

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What the Victorians used to do would be to take a rock crystal -

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a natural stone - and they would get a tool

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and sort of engrave it out from behind,

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and then paint it with the design -

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in this case the racehorse that is described

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on the back of the mount -

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and then it's been set in high-carat gold,

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and then the frame is supplemented by these very pretty green stones.

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-Know what they are?

-No.

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-Well, they're very nice-looking emeralds from Colombia...

-Oh.

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..which are really quite significant.

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Black enamelled borders and natural pearls around the frame,

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so it's augmented with all these natural gems.

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This was, during its time, quite a significant piece.

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Value. I like it and I know that people

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who are interested in racing and racehorses would like it too.

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£1,500 to £2,000.

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Wow...very good.

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So, ladies, I'm rude enough to ask -

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-you look as if you're sisters. Is that the case?

-That is the case.

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-So which of you owns this lovely clock?

-I own it.

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Would you have liked to have had that or...?

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I'd have loved to have had it but there were two other clocks which...

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-My brother got one, and I got the other.

-Right.

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I think you made a pretty good decision with this one,

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-I have to be honest.

-Yes, I've always admired it.

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And how did it come into the family?

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Well, a French lady came over and she needed some money

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-and she had the clock with her.

-Right.

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And so she went into a place, we don't know where,

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and swapped it for money

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and it somehow got into the hands of our uncle,

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who had a jewellery shop in London.

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This is all a bit apocryphal, though, you realise.

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-Could be a myth.

-Yes, it could!

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But, anyway, he gave it to our parents for their wedding present.

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-That would have been...?

-1930.

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We think of carriage clocks as being the standard wedding present then,

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but this is by no means a standard carriage clock.

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This is rather good, isn't it?

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Oh. Well, I don't really know, we've always liked it.

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OK, looking at the clock very briefly, I think that your thoughts

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about it coming from France make absolute sense.

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-I mean, we obviously know it's a French carriage clock.

-Yes, yes.

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But we've got things like "R" and "A" in there and "aiguilles"

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and other such things written in French.

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Had it been for the UK market, as most of them were,

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it would have had that "S" and "F" for slow/fast.

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-Ah, right.

-It would have had "hands" instead of "aiguilles"

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and various other things indicate to me

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-that this was destined initially for the French market.

-Mmm.

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Date, round about 1900.

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-Oh, right.

-Perhaps a tad earlier, but it's great quality.

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-The enamel is what we call champleve enamel.

-Champleve.

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Champleve enamel, and it is decorated all over

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with bands of champleve on the top, the handle,

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these lovely Corinthian columns are all done in champleve,

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as, of course, is the dial mask.

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Not only is the front done,

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but all around the sides and all around the back, as well,

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-because it would probably have stood often in front of a mirror.

-Yes.

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So you would see it the whole way round.

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Well, you know I said earlier that you were rather lucky to get that?

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-Mmm, yes.

-Because at the moment, as you probably know,

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the Chinese have entered the market in a big way,

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-buying all sorts of things...

-Oh, right.

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..and they love enamel. They absolutely love enamel,

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so I could well see this ending up going to China.

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-Oh!

-No, no, no.

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My daughter's got it on her list.

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Good, that's exactly where it should stay, in the family,

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and you can tell her this evening when you go home,

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in a decent clock shop,

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in retail condition, this is going to be costing you about £5,500.

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-Good grief!

-Right. Oh, that's... Mind you, it will never be sold.

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-But that's what it would cost retail.

-Yes.

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That's what you're going to have to insure it for.

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It's a cracking example, because it's such a beautiful colour.

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Being so close to Sunderland, the Tyne

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and the fabulous tradition of shipbuilding and ships,

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I was really hoping today to see an important marine work of art,

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and you certainly haven't let me down.

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This is a fabulous painted wood sculpture of a young sailor,

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but who is he?

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He's... He's a local hero.

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He was... His name is Jack Crawford,

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and this figure was actually made to...on a pub.

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He was a deck hand on the flagship

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of the British Fleet under Admiral Duncan,

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he was on the Venerable.

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They were engaged in a battle

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with the Dutch fleet when the colours were shot down,

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which, of course, was a signal for surrender.

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He spotted this, salvaged the colours, climbed up the mast,

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re-nailed them in position, the battle resumed,

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and the British won a glorious victory.

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The Battle of Camperdown -

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the British were fighting the Dutch,

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but it was the Napoleonic Wars. What was the date of the battle?

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The date was actually 1797. Quite early.

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And I think I see over there is the cast-iron... Is it a doorstop?

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Yes, it's a doorstop which I use at home, erm...

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He's illustrated on various other artefacts made in the North East.

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On the Sunderland pottery, there were castings made of him,

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and there is a big bronze statue of him in the park

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just immediately adjacent to the Sunderland Civic Centre.

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-Fantastic figurehead - and made by a figurehead carver.

-Yes.

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Because everything... the style about it,

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the strength of the carving, the way the hair's done,

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it shows all the traditional marks of a figurehead,

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but it's not a figurehead.

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-It's not a figurehead.

-It came from a pub.

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It's very difficult to date a piece of sculpture like this,

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but stylistically, I would certainly think it's well over 100 years old,

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so round about 1900 maybe, that sort of thing.

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-And the pub's still there?

-No, the pub was bombed

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right at the back end of the war, in one of the last air raids,

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and this was salvaged from the wreckage.

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And then you bought it?

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In the late '60s and I've had it ever since.

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-So, a long time.

-Oh, yes.

-A long time. Well, what's its value?

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Very difficult.

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Figureheads do occasionally turn up at auction and, when they do,

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they can command substantial prices.

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This is, you know, a known person, but not a figurehead.

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Even so, I still think it's hugely important. At auction,

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I'm sure you'd be talking about a figure of £15,000 to £20,000.

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Really? What a pleasant surprise.

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I knew it had some substantial value, but not that much.

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I'm very pleasantly surprised.

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Well, for me, this vase absolutely shouts the period

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from when it was born,

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and that is the high English Arts and Crafts Movement.

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It just couldn't be anything else and it's a wonderful thing,

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but tell me, how do you know it?

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I was left it by an aunt and it was her mother-in-law's...

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..erm, and she bought it either in a house sale or an auction.

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Erm...I don't know when, probably early 1920s, 1930s.

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Really?

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For five pence.

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-Five pence?

-Yes, five old pennies.

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Well, she was a canny shopper, wasn't she?

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Because it's a lovely example of its type,

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and what we are looking at is a piece of Burmantofts,

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and Burmantofts Faience, and Burmantofts were basically a company

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that had their origins in the 19th century.

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They actually started out looking for coal,

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and, while looking for coal,

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came upon clay and thought to themselves,

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"Well, if we can't go for coal, let's make pots,"

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and they actually became, during the 19th century,

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one of the leading architectural ceramic firms in the country.

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But, by the 1880s, they moved into art pottery

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and over the following years they became quite well known for this.

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Actually, by 1904, interest had actually waned

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and they ceased production,

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so we know that this piece has to sit somewhere in that timeframe

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between 1880 and 1904.

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But they were producing all kinds of wares, actually,

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and they got into things like lustres, impastos

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and what we're looking at here, which is called parti-colour.

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And what they used to do was actually incise into the wet clay

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to leave little cells that would then hold the colours before firing.

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-And the pattern's fantastic, isn't it?

-It is, it's lovely.

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I mean, I love the way the trees wrap up the body

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in this wonderful sunburst

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and it reminds me straight away of the architect, Voysey,

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who, around the same time, was producing wonderful designs,

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very similar and, actually, it's no great secret

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that Burmantofts were known to pop their head over the fence

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and look what everyone else was doing and copy.

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-But you know what? They did it beautifully.

-Mm-hm.

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And this is a really nice example.

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Lovely clean vase and quite desirable today. So, five pence?

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-Yes.

-Think we'll see a profit?

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Well, I should think so. LAUGHTER

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Well, if I tell you that five pence over the last 80, 90 years,

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has increased to somewhere in the region of £300 to £400.

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-Right, yes, good.

-It's a nice example,

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and you continue to love it and look after it.

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-Yeah, I will do.

-Thank you.

-Thank you very much. Thank you.

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Great beauty comes in small packages

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and that's absolutely the case with these handbags.

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They are magical, and there's an enormous contrast between the two.

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We've got American Lucite here

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and we've got the height of Paris fashion here.

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Yeah, definitely. I mean, I love them both

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and the contrast between them is amazing,

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and the quality and the styling, definitely.

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They're not everyday pieces that you see, you see today,

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-they're very much of their time...

-Right.

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..and their time is just inching into the postwar period.

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-Right.

-So you've got, erm, you've got Lucite

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which is the material that really grew out of the war

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and the Americans had this ability to transform it

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and mould it into the most amazing constructions,

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and, you know, everyone in Hollywood wanted a Lucite handbag

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-and everyone in Florida wanted a Lucite handbag.

-Really? Right.

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And this particular maker, Miami of Florida,

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I mean, you know, it was the handbag to have, really.

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It's a great construction and a really lovely piece.

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But this is an interesting bag, you know,

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I'm wondering what caught your eye.

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Well, the minute I found it,

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in a second-hand, sort of, clothing shop,

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it emanated quality and also the styling of it

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and, you know, the fact that it came from Paris.

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I thought, "Wow!" you know, just had to have it.

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I haven't actually used it, but I just admire it

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and, you know, it makes a nice contrast with the other one,

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but I love the fact that it's the playing cards and the dice.

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It's just... It's just lovely and it makes you smile.

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-It's got everything about fashionable post-war Paris.

-Right.

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-You know, gaming...

-Yes.

-..and I want to open it up

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because I'm sure inside there's probably a little secret to be told,

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and I'm right, it says...

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-I know.

-I mean, that was the street in Paris to have a handbag from,

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-and, you know, that was the place to shop.

-Right.

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-And, erm, it's a very desirable piece now.

-Thank you.

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-Do you use either?

-I haven't used either of them

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and they've never met each other, they've been kept in separate boxes,

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but it's nice that they've been shown today

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and I'm pleased you like them.

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Have they got any value?

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I mean, would people collect this sort of thing?

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Huge collectors, I mean, there's a massive vintage fraternity out there

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who would love to collect both of these. Great American interest

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-in the Lucite...

-Right.

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..increasingly, British interest in it,

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but this is almost like a surrealist piece of art and...

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It's beautiful, isn't it?

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And, you know, it's the equivalent of Dali, but in a handbag.

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-Yes.

-Erm, value-wise, I think you're looking at £120, £130 for this.

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Right, right.

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But this lovely Parisian bag, I've got to say at least £200.

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Really? I am surprised, but I appreciate the quality of it.

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Now I know that Fiona mentioned about the prisoner-of-war history

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at the beginning of the programme,

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but I understand these three toys belong to you.

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Yes. Yes, they do, yes.

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The... We came here in 1946 when I was three

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and the prisoners-of-war made these toys for my brother Alan and myself.

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And, er, the... A lot of them stayed till about 1949.

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-Gosh.

-So we got to know them quite well, really,

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and they had families at home, they had children at home,

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so I think that's why, you know, they were particularly kind to us.

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You're clutching something...

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Well, yes, that's a photograph of myself.

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Yours truly, as a little girl.

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-Yeah, that's in the arcades in the quadrangle here, yes.

-Yes.

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-I mean, it's not a bad place to be incarcerated, is it?

-No, no.

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-I mean, they could have been somewhere a lot worse.

-A lot worse.

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And what did you think of them?

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Well, I didn't really think of them as being prisoners-of-war,

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you know, they were just guys that were living here

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and they were very, very nice to us.

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You know, my brother and I used to go and sit with them

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while they made these things and did drawings

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and, you know, they were just nice people.

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Yeah, and have you ever kept in touch with any of the people

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who made these?

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No, I haven't. No, I haven't,

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although one or two of the prisoners have returned here.

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They've visited the hall and said,

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you know, "I slept there," and, "My bunk bed was there,"

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and one or two of them did stay behind and got jobs locally.

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Yes, I mean, yes, I know that a lot of German prisoners-of-war

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-chose to stay, either to work on.

-Yes, yes.

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-They married local girls.

-Yeah.

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And many families are still here

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-to this day, with future generations around.

-Yes, of course, yes.

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That's right, yes, yeah.

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Well, of course, the tradition of prisoner-of-war work

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is to use what materials you could get hold of,

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whether it was old bones or bits of wood and bits of metal,

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and to turn an ordinary bit of material into a sort of a toy,

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or a work of art. I mean, look at this one.

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-Yeah.

-Where did they get the wood from for these?

-Well...

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Were they salvaging it from...

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Yes, I think from the building. Window-sills and windows

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and various bits that they could get their hands on, really.

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Right, so the windows became draughtier the more toys they made.

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Yes, they did. Yes, they did, yes.

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This is just such a nice, simple sort of silhouette puppet toy,

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all hand-painted.

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It's kind of in a very American dapper sort of costume.

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Now, was this given to you?

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It was given to my brother. Brother Alan, yes, yes, yes.

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Right, right, and what about this one in the middle, the windmill?

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That was given to my brother, as well.

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-Right, and this one operates just by a little pulley.

-It does.

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-There we go.

-Yes.

-This one's made... Obviously, it's made of pine

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and the decoration of this one, and the one we're going to look at next,

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is done using a hot needle.

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-It's what we refer to as pyrographic decorations.

-Right.

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-They're very simple, aren't they?

-Oh, very, yes.

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-They're sort of almost folk toys.

-They are, yes, they're very simple.

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Now this one, which was seen at the beginning of the programme,

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I had a good look over this earlier, Kathleen,

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and I found something on it -

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that I don't know whether you personally were aware of it.

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Did you ever turn it over and see in very, very faint writing,

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-a little inscription?

-I may have, at some time,

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-but I really can't remember.

-You'd forgotten.

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-And it's been in a cupboard for so long.

-Right.

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Well, this really made it for me,

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because it has an inscription, "Made by a German at...", or to,

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"..Christmas 1946" and then the name of the gentleman, "Rupprecht Jung."

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-Really? I... Right, yes.

-So there is the guy who made it.

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-Right, yes.

-So what a treat.

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Now, he could still be alive, his family could be about.

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Yes, yes, of course,

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I've never really taken much notice of that writing on the back.

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I can't really remember it being there, actually.

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Yeah, the very man who made it. Again salvaged pine.

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I think this little bit of lead might have...

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-maybe been cut from the roof lead lining.

-Quite possibly. Yes.

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They were bad lads, but what a fascinating story, living history.

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-Yes.

-At the end of the day, these aren't worth an awful lot of money.

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-No, no.

-In a sale, they would probably, as a group,

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fetch as little as perhaps £300 to £500.

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Right, yes. They're not something that I would ever part with.

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-I guessed you'd say that.

-Yes, yeah.

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Well, I must say, these are just the prettiest glasses, aren't they?

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I mean, really, how much more gorgeous can a wine glass be?

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Have you known them for ever?

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No, my mother-in-law, who's 99,

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moved into a care home 18 months ago

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and when we were clearing her flat, these were found, 12 of them,

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in a box, brown newspaper surrounding them,

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never seen them before.

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Well, that makes two of us, because I've never seen them before.

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I can tell you that they date from about 1920

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and they're Czech

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and they are enamelled and gilded.

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Basically, in order to create the strawberries

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and the leaves of the strawberries,

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they've painted powdered glass, in suspension, onto them,

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and then fired them on,

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so you can rub for ever and you'd never lose the colour.

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The gilding is more susceptible to wear.

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You may... You know, one of the problems about high valuation,

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and I'm not going to nuke you with a valuation, but, you know,

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you think, "Well, these, all 12 are worth about, at auction, £500."

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So the decision is yours, really.

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Are you going to use £500 glasses?

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Maybe not!

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What will you do with them instead?

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Put them in the china cabinet.

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Well, I think you should bring them out occasionally,

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because they're too good not to use, aren't they?

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They are indeed, yes. Beautiful.

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As a mere southerner, and I apologise for that,

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I love coming up here.

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This is my favourite part of Britain, apart from where I live.

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And it's not just the area and its history.

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What really excites me here about... are two things, railways and coal.

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-Ah!

-And here we've got it all.

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-Absolutely.

-This is a fantastic map.

-It is.

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It's a vision of this world in 1847

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and it shows us the...I suppose, the coal industry almost at its peak.

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-Exactly.

-All the pits, all the areas...

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-Yes.

-..and, more important, it shows

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-all the railway lines.

-Exactly.

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-A spider web of black.

-Exactly.

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And without the railways, there would be no coal industry,

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-except on a very small scale.

-No, that's right, yes.

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-And every dot that is a colliery, has got a rail link.

-Exactly.

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And so you can see how the incredible wealth of the area

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-was developed by this industry.

-Yes, yes.

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-It looked after this great house.

-It did.

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It looked after the estates. It generated wealth beyond belief.

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Anyway, what does it mean to you?

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Well, it means exactly that, to us.

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We haven't had this for very long, actually.

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We've been collecting local history and books, mostly.

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-But you are locals?

-But we are locals.

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Well, my family... both my families are from up here -

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my father's and my mother's, my mother's especially.

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-My mother was a Pease.

-There's a good local name.

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They were the great Quaker family

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who were the financiers for the Stockton and Darlington.

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-Exactly, exactly.

-Let's just look at it a bit.

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I mean, as I say, it is the whole area and two things strike me.

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First of all, as I say, the railways.

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Here, right in the centre is the word "Killingworth".

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-And Killingworth is George Stephenson.

-Exactly.

0:24:070:24:10

-It's long before the railways as we know them.

-Yeah.

0:24:100:24:14

-It's the beginning of locomotives hauling coal wagons.

-Yes, yes, yes.

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So that's a key name.

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I must point out, we are here.

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Here's the house, here's the local collieries, Hartley and Seaton,

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and, of course, the other thing that strikes me is, wherever we look,

0:24:270:24:30

-every fraction of land is owned by somebody quite grand.

-Yes, yes.

0:24:300:24:35

I mean, one I liked particularly was,

0:24:350:24:38

"Royalties belonging to Sir Arthur Grey Hazlerigg, Baronet."

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-They'd really got it carved up.

-Exactly, absolutely.

0:24:410:24:44

So we've got great names, 19th-century industrial history.

0:24:440:24:48

-Yes, yeah.

-It's a great map.

-Absolutely. Fantastic.

0:24:480:24:50

So you said you bought it recently?

0:24:500:24:52

-Yes, we did.

-If I was looking to buy one of these,

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I would expect to pay about £1,000.

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-Yes, we paid a little bit more than that, but...

-Did you?

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..but I think, I was quite happy to pay the money,

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because it suits exactly what we want.

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I'm going to justify,

0:25:070:25:08

I don't know what you paid, the higher price, on two grounds.

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-One, you wanted it.

-Yes.

0:25:110:25:13

-And, more important, you probably paid a local price.

-Yes.

0:25:130:25:16

And, of course, we've got to think about that classic phrase,

0:25:160:25:20

-"coals to Newcastle."

-Yes.

-This is it.

-Yes.

0:25:200:25:22

I bet this face has got a few stories to tell,

0:25:240:25:26

-not least of which, that this chair was stolen, wasn't it?

-That's right.

0:25:260:25:30

-From the church in the grounds.

-That's right, it was stolen in 1991.

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It was taken in the February

0:25:330:25:36

and it was missing until the following Christmas,

0:25:360:25:38

and then an attempt was made to ransom it.

0:25:380:25:40

Er, the... Someone close to the thieves,

0:25:400:25:45

we don't think it was the thieves themselves, got in touch

0:25:450:25:48

and asked where the vicar was.

0:25:480:25:50

They came on Christmas Eve,

0:25:500:25:54

and the churchwarden got in touch with the police,

0:25:540:25:56

and they set up a trap for him.

0:25:560:25:58

Now, am I right, that the police...

0:25:580:26:00

One of the policemen dressed up as a vicar?

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That's right.

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-In order to set this trap.

-That's right.

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Complete with Bible under his arm and everything.

0:26:050:26:07

He stood inside the church door,

0:26:070:26:09

and the other policemen hid behind the gravestones,

0:26:090:26:11

and they let the chap take the chair,

0:26:110:26:13

which is very heavy, off the van.

0:26:130:26:15

Yes, I wonder how on earth he managed to do that.

0:26:150:26:18

They... The mind boggles,

0:26:180:26:21

but he humped it into the church

0:26:210:26:22

and then they, sort of, did the old "You're nicked!" routine on him,

0:26:220:26:26

and apparently he was led away in handcuffs, muttering,

0:26:260:26:29

"Well, you can't even trust vicars these days."

0:26:290:26:32

Erm, and he was never ever actually charged with stealing it,

0:26:320:26:36

he was only charged with receiving it.

0:26:360:26:38

It's like something out of a film, isn't it?

0:26:380:26:40

The idea of the cops... Well, it's Keystone Cops, in a way,

0:26:400:26:43

hiding behind the graveyard, it's around Christmas,

0:26:430:26:46

-it's dark, I can imagine a kind of misty night.

-Yes, yes.

0:26:460:26:49

-There's a policeman dressed as the vicar.

-Yes.

0:26:490:26:51

Do you think the policeman enjoyed his moment as a vicar?

0:26:510:26:54

Oh, I think he probably would, yes. I know I would have done. Yes!

0:26:540:26:57

MUSIC: Theme to When The Boat Comes In

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-Are these something you inherited?

-No, actually,

0:27:340:27:37

I bought them all myself, over the past year.

0:27:370:27:39

In just one year?

0:27:390:27:40

-Yes.

-Goodness gracious.

-The five of them.

-Can I ask you how old you are?

0:27:400:27:45

17.

0:27:450:27:46

Well, congratulations, because I think this is a first.

0:27:460:27:49

I don't think I've ever met anybody

0:27:490:27:51

of your age that's bought such amazing things

0:27:510:27:56

-in the 20 years that I've doing the Antiques Roadshow.

-Thank you.

0:27:560:27:59

Well, what got you interested in silver in particular?

0:27:590:28:02

I went to a local auction and I saw something silver for sale.

0:28:020:28:05

It was a piece of English silver. I bought it. I decided to re-sell it

0:28:050:28:09

and I quite liked it, so I continued doing that,

0:28:090:28:11

then I was looking at auction houses across the UK

0:28:110:28:13

and I came across pieces of silver

0:28:130:28:14

like this with the enamel on, and I decided I really liked them,

0:28:140:28:17

so I started buying them to keep, really.

0:28:170:28:19

-And did you know where they came from?

-Not at first.

0:28:190:28:22

-I know some of them are from Russia, but that's about all.

-Right.

0:28:220:28:26

How very enterprising of you.

0:28:260:28:28

You're putting me to shame now, starting at such a young age.

0:28:280:28:32

Anyway, let's have a look at what you bought in the last year.

0:28:320:28:36

We've got a very pretty typical late-19th-century Russian spoon,

0:28:360:28:41

-beautifully enamelled on the back.

-Yes.

0:28:410:28:43

Spoons like this normally go for around £100.

0:28:430:28:47

-Does that fit in with what you paid?

-Yes.

0:28:470:28:49

And this very handsome case with this nice engraving on,

0:28:490:28:54

a bit more difficult, the plain silver cases,

0:28:540:28:58

and it is, of course, a cheroot case, this size.

0:28:580:29:00

-Is it a larger type of cigarette?

-A cheroot - like a small cigar.

0:29:000:29:05

Ah.

0:29:050:29:06

I would imagine you could have paid £500, £600 for that.

0:29:060:29:10

I actually paid about £180 for that one.

0:29:100:29:13

-180!

-Mm, so that... I obviously did quite well with that.

0:29:130:29:15

Well, you're well on the way to being a very good dealer,

0:29:150:29:18

I can see that. But the one that I really, really love,

0:29:180:29:21

and I'm fascinated to know what you paid for it,

0:29:210:29:23

because if we pick it up and look inside,

0:29:230:29:25

it's got marks for Moscow

0:29:250:29:28

and made in 1893

0:29:280:29:31

-but do you know who the maker is?

-No, I don't.

0:29:310:29:35

I'm pretty sure that's a maker called Maria Semonova

0:29:350:29:39

and she was one of the most distinguished makers

0:29:390:29:41

of this wonderful, and typically Russian, polychrome enamel.

0:29:410:29:46

Look at the work that's gone into this. It's in fabulous condition.

0:29:460:29:50

And what did you have to give for this?

0:29:500:29:53

£950, that was, at auction.

0:29:530:29:55

Oh, that's pretty good, because I was thinking of a figure

0:29:550:29:58

between £800 and £1,000, so you're right in the right ball park.

0:29:580:30:01

So did anybody teach you about what you should and shouldn't buy?

0:30:010:30:04

Not really, no. I just bought what I liked, really.

0:30:040:30:09

Well, you've done incredibly well, because pretty much everything

0:30:090:30:12

I can see on the table is really, really good.

0:30:120:30:15

I love this little vesta case here which matches the cigarette case.

0:30:170:30:20

These are actually French.

0:30:200:30:23

-Did you buy them together?

-No, I actually bought...

0:30:230:30:25

Good heavens, well, they match each other.

0:30:250:30:27

I bought the Vesta in an auction and I bought that at a dealer's,

0:30:270:30:31

about three or four months later,

0:30:310:30:33

just complete coincidence,

0:30:330:30:34

and it turned out the dealer was the one that put it into auction,

0:30:340:30:37

-because it was damaged.

-Right.

0:30:370:30:39

The Vesta case, I would think, ought to be worth several hundred pounds,

0:30:390:30:45

but if we turn it over, we see it's quite damaged on the back.

0:30:450:30:49

Even so, it's very, very pretty

0:30:490:30:51

and I still think it could be worth £150.

0:30:510:30:54

-I hope you didn't pay more than, maybe, 150 for it.

-No.

0:30:540:30:58

-No, good.

-Not anything near that.

-Excellent. What did you pay?

0:30:580:31:02

I paid about 40 for it.

0:31:020:31:05

That's still a bargain and the cigarette case? A few hundred?

0:31:050:31:08

-I paid about 500 for that.

-Mm, that's a bit top heavy, I think.

0:31:080:31:12

I would have said maybe £350-£400, but you're not far out.

0:31:120:31:17

Anyway, you've done amazingly well.

0:31:170:31:19

Thank you.

0:31:190:31:21

I can't congratulate you enough, at your young age, to have the nerve

0:31:210:31:25

to go and buy seriously good things

0:31:250:31:28

and to get things of very good quality,

0:31:280:31:31

and every expert on the Antiques Roadshow will tell you -

0:31:310:31:36

it's the quality, condition, that matters more than anything else.

0:31:360:31:40

So, well done, keep doing it,

0:31:400:31:41

and one day we might see you on the Antiques Roadshow as an expert,

0:31:410:31:44

-who knows?

-Thank you.

0:31:440:31:46

We couldn't be in a better place

0:31:470:31:49

to look at these two pieces of furniture

0:31:490:31:50

with this wonderful house behind us.

0:31:500:31:53

-Partly because they are essentially contemporary.

-Right.

0:31:530:31:58

And if you look at the two side pieces

0:31:580:32:00

-on the house, which have these angles which project forward...

-Yes.

0:32:000:32:03

..in a sense you have the same dramatic character

0:32:030:32:07

in these two pieces of furniture.

0:32:070:32:09

I'm going to say straight away - when I see this, I say "Italian".

0:32:090:32:13

And...the house was built...

0:32:130:32:15

I think, or it was commissioned in 1726

0:32:150:32:19

and these two pieces of furniture are about, ooh, 1700-1720,

0:32:190:32:23

so essentially just the period of the house.

0:32:230:32:26

So did you know they were Italian?

0:32:260:32:29

We've always known them in the family as Italian.

0:32:290:32:31

I inherited them from my mother who in turn got them from her mother

0:32:310:32:35

who in turn got them from her mother.

0:32:350:32:37

Fantastic. And was she...?

0:32:370:32:39

She was Sybil Vivian and she died in 1936 and...

0:32:390:32:44

And was she living in Italy or...?

0:32:440:32:46

No, she was living in London,

0:32:460:32:47

but was, er...travelled regularly to Italy

0:32:470:32:51

and the family story is that she collected them on one of her visits

0:32:510:32:55

and brought them back to London.

0:32:550:32:58

-North Italian and they are essentially Baroque...

-Yes.

0:32:580:33:01

-..which is what the style of the house is...

-Yes, yes.

0:33:010:33:04

..and one associates most of the Baroque style as coming from Italy.

0:33:040:33:07

-Yes.

-And Vanbrugh was certainly influenced by it.

0:33:070:33:11

They're not the highest quality, but they are very decorative.

0:33:110:33:16

So you have walnut with stringing and banding

0:33:160:33:19

and then this wonderful decorative design,

0:33:190:33:21

which is all the same design

0:33:210:33:23

but cut out and then reversed like a picture puzzle,

0:33:230:33:26

so you get light in dark, dark in light, and that on both pieces,

0:33:260:33:30

so, again, you get this Baroque feature of contrast,

0:33:300:33:33

and when the pieces were new,

0:33:330:33:35

-the contrast would have been much, much more direct.

-Absolutely.

0:33:350:33:39

As with much Italian furniture, when you look on the inside of them,

0:33:390:33:42

-they are pretty rough...

-Crude.

0:33:420:33:45

..and ready, and this is a kind of characteristic of the furniture.

0:33:450:33:49

Er...great pieces, very decorative,

0:33:490:33:53

-I have to say would sell much better in Italy than they would here.

-Ah.

0:33:530:33:57

On the other hand, it's a very attractive pair,

0:33:570:34:00

they're very decorative pieces.

0:34:000:34:02

You'd be looking at, I think, around £1,500 for the pair.

0:34:020:34:08

-Really, really? Mm. They're not for sale.

-Good.

0:34:080:34:11

We've got an amazing collection of butterflies here.

0:34:130:34:16

All enamel work and, of course,

0:34:160:34:18

the butterfly has been associated

0:34:180:34:20

with Psyche and the wonderful love affair of Cupid and Psyche,

0:34:200:34:24

a very classical mythological story.

0:34:240:34:27

So is this a real passion of yours

0:34:270:34:28

or is it just something you've come across?

0:34:280:34:31

More of an obsession, really, than a passion.

0:34:310:34:33

And how did the obsession start?

0:34:330:34:35

When I was very young, my grandma owned that one,

0:34:360:34:39

for many years and every time I went to her house, I would play with it,

0:34:390:34:43

and take things out the jewellery box. In the end, she got fed up

0:34:430:34:47

and gave me it, and then about seven years ago,

0:34:470:34:51

I spotted another one, the same, but different colour, and bought it

0:34:510:34:54

and then everywhere I went,

0:34:540:34:55

I seemed to see one and just kind of turned into an obsession.

0:34:550:34:58

Well, that's brilliant, having an obsession, passion,

0:34:580:35:01

whichever way you want to look at it, it's just wonderful

0:35:010:35:04

to see a collection grow. How long have you been collecting for?

0:35:040:35:07

-About seven years.

-Oh, fantastic! Well, the one that you've got there,

0:35:070:35:11

the beautiful pale lilac and green enamel-work

0:35:110:35:14

and it's a form of enamelling called guilloche enamel

0:35:140:35:18

and basically, that means that the pattern that you see in the wings,

0:35:180:35:22

is engraved into the silver that we have here and then the enamel

0:35:220:35:26

is poured over the top and it creates this fabulous effect

0:35:260:35:29

and it makes it look as though the pattern is actually

0:35:290:35:32

on top of the actual brooch,

0:35:320:35:33

but it's actually underneath

0:35:330:35:35

and it's all very smooth when you touch it.

0:35:350:35:37

One of the greatest designers of jewellery like this

0:35:370:35:40

-was David Andersen, a Scandinavian designer.

-Yes.

0:35:400:35:44

And you actually have one of his,

0:35:440:35:46

which is this green and bright yellow enamel piece -

0:35:460:35:48

absolutely wonderful -

0:35:480:35:49

and his firm was starting in the late 19th century,

0:35:490:35:52

but certainly into the early part of the 20th century,

0:35:520:35:55

he was becoming very popular,

0:35:550:35:58

and is well known for both his enamel butterfly brooches

0:35:580:36:01

-and leaf brooches, as well.

-Yes.

0:36:010:36:03

And, over the years, people have become to realise

0:36:030:36:06

how good an enamellist he was

0:36:060:36:07

and have basically come to collect them.

0:36:070:36:10

Now, in terms of value,

0:36:100:36:11

I mean, naturally it is more difficult to get black ones

0:36:110:36:14

and they are a little bit more unusual

0:36:140:36:16

and I think the quality of this one is particularly good

0:36:160:36:18

and individually, if you were to sell that at auction,

0:36:180:36:21

-I think you'd get somewhere between £120, £150 for it.

-Excellent.

0:36:210:36:25

Naturally, there's nothing that can take away

0:36:250:36:27

from the sentimental value of a piece,

0:36:270:36:30

but the small one that your grandmother gave you,

0:36:300:36:32

that's probably worth about £80 to £120, as well.

0:36:320:36:36

And then the David Andersen ones, these can fetch between £200, £300

0:36:360:36:39

on a really good day, so you've got an absolutely stunning collection

0:36:390:36:44

and I'm sure as a collection, then somebody would be willing to pay

0:36:440:36:48

-in the region of between £3,000 and £4,000 for them.

-Wow!

0:36:480:36:52

-Yes, I shall... I'll keep going.

-Wonderful.

0:36:520:36:55

Now, there's nothing I like better than a glass of champagne

0:37:000:37:03

and I've heard there's a bottle of champagne

0:37:030:37:05

lurking here at the Roadshow. Is this for me?

0:37:050:37:07

No, no, no, no, no! It's from my uncle. He gave it to me.

0:37:070:37:13

It's beautifully bedecked and beribboned. What is it?

0:37:130:37:17

Well, he worked in John Brown's shipyard and it was his job to...

0:37:170:37:22

-What, on the Clyde?

-On the Clyde, yes. In Clydebank, yes,

0:37:220:37:26

and it was his job to connect this bottle

0:37:260:37:30

for the launch of various ships and he was there...

0:37:300:37:33

Most of the ships over his period when he worked there,

0:37:330:37:37

and, erm, this was the one from the QE2.

0:37:370:37:40

-So this...

-That's a spare from the QE2.

0:37:400:37:44

Now, hang on a minute, so the bottle that was used to launch the QE2...

0:37:440:37:48

-Has gone.

-And this was a spare?

0:37:480:37:51

Yes, they always carried a spare

0:37:510:37:53

-in case the first bottle didn't work or...

-Really?

0:37:530:37:56

Yes, indeed, yes. They always carried a spare...

0:37:560:37:59

a second bottle, and this is the second bottle

0:37:590:38:02

and he gave it to me before he died, actually.

0:38:020:38:05

How extraordinary! I'd no idea they carried a spare.

0:38:050:38:08

And this has champagne in it still?

0:38:080:38:10

-I'm sorry to say no, no, no.

-Oh.

-HE LAUGHS

0:38:100:38:14

It's called Empire Wine, as far as I know.

0:38:140:38:15

Empire Wine, what's that?

0:38:150:38:18

I don't know, I've never tasted it, I don't know anything about it,

0:38:180:38:21

but it's called Empire Wine.

0:38:210:38:22

Sounds like some kind of fortified sherry or something like that,

0:38:220:38:25

-doesn't it?

-I think so, yes.

-Well, who'd have thought it?

0:38:250:38:28

I never knew they had a spare

0:38:280:38:30

-and I never knew it was Empire Wine inside.

-That's right, yes. Mm-hm.

0:38:300:38:33

So I guess we won't be drinking this, after all.

0:38:330:38:36

No, I'm afraid not, I'm afraid not. I'm keeping it.

0:38:360:38:38

Isn't it great to have a box

0:38:410:38:42

where you know what's going to happen inside?

0:38:420:38:45

Here it is, there's a picture in there of this fantastic ox cart,

0:38:450:38:50

it's called Les Boeufs and we've got the initials FM here.

0:38:500:38:54

Open up the box and, blow me down...

0:38:540:38:57

..sort of looks a bit... slightly like the lid.

0:39:000:39:06

I mean, it was before the age of the Trade Descriptions Act,

0:39:060:39:09

so, you know, you could be a little bit more flowery

0:39:090:39:11

with the illustration than the actual toy.

0:39:110:39:14

It's lovely. Where did it come from?

0:39:140:39:16

It actually belongs to a friend of mine,

0:39:160:39:19

who is slightly older than I am, and it was bought for her father

0:39:190:39:23

when he was three years old and the box has 1897 on it,

0:39:230:39:28

-so he was born in 1894.

-Where?

0:39:280:39:30

-Ah, brilliant.

-On the bottom.

-"To Daniel."

-Yes.

0:39:310:39:34

And it was bought for him by his two siblings

0:39:340:39:37

and they were at prep school in Carlisle

0:39:370:39:40

and they bought the toy in Carlisle, as well.

0:39:400:39:43

-Isn't that brilliant?

-Mm-hm.

0:39:430:39:45

-And it looks as if it was bought for the price of one shilling.

-Yes.

0:39:450:39:49

Amazing.

0:39:490:39:51

Well, it's made by one of the very best toy makers, not of Germany,

0:39:510:39:57

but of France - a company called Fernand Martin -

0:39:570:40:01

that's the F and the M there.

0:40:010:40:03

He was a passionate toy maker,

0:40:030:40:06

but the thing that really makes it unusual

0:40:060:40:08

about the toys that Fernand Martin made,

0:40:080:40:12

was that he looked at scenes from everyday life

0:40:120:40:16

-and converted them into toys.

-Right.

0:40:160:40:19

So he looked around him and I'm sure he would have seen an ox cart

0:40:190:40:23

pulling a great wagon of hay and there he captured it in toy form.

0:40:230:40:28

He used simple mechanisms, sometimes a fly wheel,

0:40:280:40:31

sometimes a simple clockwork mechanism.

0:40:310:40:33

This one is missing its flywheel mechanism,

0:40:330:40:36

but if I turn the handle, you can see what would have happened -

0:40:360:40:40

-up and down go the oxen.

-Oh.

0:40:400:40:42

And the little boy with his whip, keeps them going,

0:40:420:40:47

so it would have had a very endearing action too.

0:40:470:40:50

But he also tended to use fabric and other materials with his toys,

0:40:500:40:56

so this is absolutely typical of the toys made by Martin.

0:40:560:41:00

We know the date, 1897, but he started in business,

0:41:010:41:06

his first patent was in 1878

0:41:060:41:07

and he went right the way through until 1912,

0:41:070:41:10

when he went into partnership with somebody else.

0:41:100:41:13

Fascinating.

0:41:130:41:14

So, it is a great piece of toy-maker's art...

0:41:140:41:17

in lovely condition.

0:41:170:41:19

Everybody says to me,

0:41:190:41:21

"Hilary, you always go on about the original boxes." I do, don't I?

0:41:210:41:24

I go on about the original boxes and the reason I do

0:41:240:41:27

is because it generally means that the toy

0:41:270:41:30

is put back in its box afterwards and keeps in wonderful condition.

0:41:300:41:34

So, one shilling it cost, 5p. What's it worth now?

0:41:340:41:40

Well, it is worth something between, I'd say, £600 and £700.

0:41:400:41:45

Wow! She will... My friend will be very pleased.

0:41:450:41:49

Well, wonderful.

0:41:490:41:52

Now, the great thing about this programme

0:41:520:41:56

is we have been teaching the nation,

0:41:560:41:58

for 30-odd years, about the merits of various antiques

0:41:580:42:04

and, in particular, the name Doulton and Lambeth and stoneware

0:42:040:42:09

and, dare I say it, Hannah Barlow,

0:42:090:42:11

have turned up on many an occasion.

0:42:110:42:14

-Yes.

-And, well, you know, I can't see enough of the stuff.

-Good.

0:42:140:42:19

But what I would like to know is just how

0:42:190:42:22

a piece of Lambeth stoneware by the same lady finds its way

0:42:220:42:27

to this wonderful part of the North East of England.

0:42:270:42:32

-So just enlighten me.

-Well, it comes via Scotland, actually.

-Oh, does it?

0:42:320:42:36

I inherited it from my aunt who, I think,

0:42:360:42:39

got it at a house clearance sale in Oban, in the west of Scotland.

0:42:390:42:42

-Um-hm.

-But I don't know how it got there.

-OK.

0:42:420:42:46

Well, let's look at the object itself.

0:42:460:42:49

It is, let's open it up.

0:42:490:42:51

It's got this lid, which appears to be silver,

0:42:510:42:54

but I can't find any silver marks,

0:42:540:42:56

-so let's talk silver plate.

-Yep.

0:42:560:42:59

Did you ever think it might have had another cover on at one stage?

0:42:590:43:02

Well, my aunt sent a picture of it into an antiques magazine

0:43:020:43:06

and they said the lid did not belong with the bottom.

0:43:060:43:09

Well, I think this cover is absolutely right.

0:43:090:43:12

It's silver plate, it's hinged.

0:43:120:43:14

I think these two have been wedded since this pot was made in 1878.

0:43:140:43:19

I'm very happy that these two have been wedded from the word go.

0:43:190:43:23

-Good.

-What's interesting is with all early pots...

0:43:230:43:26

This one's actually dated

0:43:260:43:28

and it says 1878. There's the monogram, by the way.

0:43:280:43:33

-There she is, look.

-Oh, that's it, yes.

-Hannah Barlow.

0:43:330:43:36

Now, that's not many years after Hannah Barlow

0:43:360:43:39

actually switched from using her right hand to using her left hand

0:43:390:43:43

and the reason being she developed

0:43:430:43:46

an arthritic condition in her right hand,

0:43:460:43:48

which meant that she had to switch hands.

0:43:480:43:51

-Oh, so she did things left handed?

-She had to do things left handed.

0:43:510:43:55

And this, stylistically, is obviously with her left hand.

0:43:550:43:58

-I say obviously...

-How can you tell?

0:43:580:44:00

Well, because her early pieces are more spirited, they're more sketchy.

0:44:000:44:05

By the time she gets to using her left hand,

0:44:050:44:07

it all becomes very meticulous and the detail is...

0:44:070:44:11

Well, you can see. I mean, it's just fundamentally wonderful.

0:44:110:44:14

It is!

0:44:140:44:15

So let's just have a look at the decoration.

0:44:150:44:18

It's incised decoration, or sgraffito.

0:44:180:44:21

So if I can give it a turn, you've got various horses.

0:44:210:44:24

-And a donkey.

-Yes, well, I'm just about to introduce him.

0:44:240:44:28

There he is. You've got a lovely little donkey.

0:44:280:44:31

-That's right.

-People love donkeys.

0:44:310:44:34

-People love Hannah Barlow, on an international basis.

-Oh, good.

0:44:340:44:38

-I think it's a prince of biscuit barrels.

-Ah, lovely!

-I really do.

0:44:380:44:42

I think that if I wanted to go and buy it from a good

0:44:420:44:45

dealer in Doulton stoneware,

0:44:450:44:47

I would have to pull out around about £1,000.

0:44:470:44:53

Good heavens!

0:44:530:44:55

This is a dream object for me.

0:44:560:44:58

Not only is it old,

0:44:580:45:00

not only is it very sought after,

0:45:000:45:03

not only is it beautiful,

0:45:030:45:06

but it's something I love.

0:45:060:45:08

Do you know what it is?

0:45:080:45:10

-I thought it was a christening cup or a stirrup cup.

-No.

0:45:100:45:15

-No?

-It's neither, it's actually a tumbler cup.

-Oh, right.

0:45:150:45:19

And the London ones had much rounder bases.

0:45:190:45:22

So when you tip them,

0:45:220:45:24

they should really go back into the correct position,

0:45:240:45:27

-but this more falls, rather than tumbles.

-Right.

0:45:270:45:30

It's got some initials at the front "S.B." Is that a family thing?

0:45:300:45:34

Well, I thought, thinking it was my mother-in-law's.

0:45:340:45:38

Her surname was Briggs, so I assumed it was maybe a christening cup.

0:45:380:45:44

-Well, it is actually for drinking out of.

-Yes.

0:45:440:45:47

A tumbler cup.

0:45:470:45:48

This form of decoration,

0:45:480:45:49

with this alternate concave and convex fluting,

0:45:490:45:54

came in in the reign of William III.

0:45:540:45:56

So even without looking at the hallmarks,

0:45:560:45:59

you know this is a piece that dates from the late 17th century.

0:45:590:46:03

And it went through into the early part of Queen Anne's reign,

0:46:030:46:06

in the early 18th century.

0:46:060:46:09

But the condition of this is really good, you know,

0:46:090:46:12

the fluting is all undamaged.

0:46:120:46:13

There's typical, sort of, rather basic decoration

0:46:130:46:18

engraved round the edge here,

0:46:180:46:20

whereas this is all embossed and punched through,

0:46:200:46:22

because you can see the decoration coming through on the inside.

0:46:220:46:25

But there's one incredibly rare thing about it and that is,

0:46:250:46:30

it's got maker's mark struck twice, "EB"

0:46:300:46:34

and that's for Eli Bilton.

0:46:340:46:38

And it's got an early Newcastle mark.

0:46:380:46:41

Bits of old Sellotape stuck round the marks,

0:46:410:46:43

so get those off if you can.

0:46:430:46:45

-Right.

-But this dates from 1690,

0:46:450:46:48

so it's really old,

0:46:480:46:50

it's really collectable and it's really valuable.

0:46:500:46:55

Oh, dear.

0:46:550:46:57

-How about £5,000-£7,000?

-No!

0:46:570:47:00

-No!

-Gosh.

0:47:000:47:03

No. Oh, dear me!

0:47:030:47:06

-Honest?!

-I'd love to pack it up and take it away.

0:47:100:47:13

I could tell when you looked at it, how delighted you were with it.

0:47:130:47:16

This is a museum object. It is SO rare.

0:47:160:47:19

And any 17th century silver,

0:47:190:47:21

especially made just down the road from here at Newcastle...

0:47:210:47:24

I know, I wondered if it was Newcastle.

0:47:240:47:27

..is very rare. You've made my day. Thank you so much.

0:47:270:47:30

All right, thank you. Thank YOU very much.

0:47:300:47:32

When you come to somewhere as old as Seaton Delaval Hall,

0:47:360:47:38

there are always a few stories, legends, associated with it,

0:47:380:47:42

and there's one about a ghost, apparently from the 18th century,

0:47:420:47:45

a lady who lived in the hall,

0:47:450:47:47

waved her husband off to sea and he never returned.

0:47:470:47:51

And on dark nights, apparently,

0:47:510:47:53

you can see her standing at the window

0:47:530:47:55

gazing out to sea for her husband.

0:47:550:47:57

Now, you may not know that the night before a Roadshow,

0:47:570:48:00

when the big bits of furniture are brought in, and the paintings,

0:48:000:48:04

ready for the programme the following day,

0:48:040:48:06

someone has to stay up with all those objects overnight,

0:48:060:48:09

to act as a kind of security guard in the hall.

0:48:090:48:12

Now, Dave, lucky man, you had that job of staying up all night.

0:48:120:48:15

-Certainly did, yes.

-Got to ask - did you see the white lady?

0:48:150:48:18

No, I didn't, Fiona, but it was awfully cold

0:48:180:48:21

-and a very, very long night.

-I bet it was!

-Very long.

0:48:210:48:24

From Dave, and the Antiques Roadshow from Seaton Delaval Hall, bye-bye.

0:48:240:48:28

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