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We visit some prestigious locations on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
from grand country estates | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
to iconic institutions like Wimbledon Lawn Tennis Club. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
But, you know, it's not every day | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
we get an invitation to a Royal palace, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
so tonight you're in for a treat | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
as we set up our cameras at Kensington Palace | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
for a special Diamond Jubilee edition of the Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
to celebrate 60 years of our Queen on the throne. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
Last year we appealed to you for Royal stories, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
intimate glimpses into the life of the Queen. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
Well, we had more responses than we could ever have hoped for - | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
hundreds of eye-witness accounts | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
of special moments in the life of Elizabeth II. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Tonight we can share a handful with you, spanning the Queen's life | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
from childhood to the present day - a kind of This is Your Life, Ma'am. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
Our venue today is Kensington Palace, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
home to Royal residents since the late 1600s | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
and most significantly it was the birthplace and childhood home | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
of the only other British monarch to celebrate 60 years on the throne. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
Queen Victoria held her first cabinet meeting in Kensington Palace | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
on the 20th June 1837, aged just 18, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
a few hours after learning she was the monarch. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
Victoria reigned for 63 years, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
and like her great-great-granddaughter, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
her reign spanned periods of great change. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
You can stroll through many of Victoria's State Apartments here, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
in a new exhibition which charts the story of her life. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
Festivities for Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
took place across the nation, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
echoed 115 years later by the recent celebrations for our current Queen. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
And that's our cue to begin this special edition, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
as experts Hilary Kay, Clive Farahar, Judith Miller, | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Marc Allum and Philip Mould | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
meet viewers with their own special stories | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
celebrating the life of the Queen. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Our first story is about a birthday gift from the people of Wales. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
I'm so lucky to be able to start the programme | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
talking about Princess Elizabeth, aged 6, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
and the little Welsh cottage that was built | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
two-fifths scale - not this one, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
which is a doll's house version - | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
but two-fifths scale Welsh cottage built for her | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
at the Royal Lodge in Windsor, and there's a lovely picture here. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
We've got the Duchess and the Duke and Elizabeth here | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
and Margaret Rose, surrounded by dogs of assorted types and, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
you know, lovely family scene. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Now, what's your story and your link to it? | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
Well, my father was foreman | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
when the cottage was transported to the grounds of the Royal Lodge | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
and he was responsible for building the walls | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
and making sure the bay windows were in correctly, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
siting the cottage and all the finishing touches. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
Brilliant, and there's a lovely photographic record, isn't it? | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
Presumably, this is your Pa down here, is it? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
Yes, yes, it is here, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
and here is standing in the doorway of the completed cottage. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
Great, and this one here, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
which gives a lovely indication of the scale, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
because there's your dad. He was sort of normal dad height, was he? | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
That's right, that's right, yes. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
And you can see he's way taller than the little front door, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
and the little Welsh house. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
Now I'm going to try and say it in Welsh. Y Bwthyn... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
Y Bwthyn Bach gwae-aeth. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
There'll be letters! But it's the best I can do. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
So, from his point of view, it was something he saw as a high point in his career. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Absolutely, especially when he was working and the Duchess - | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
she was the Duchess of York then - she would come round | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
and just see how work was going and chat to him, quite regularly, so. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
Well, one hears a lot about the Duchess - | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
the Queen Mother as she went on to be - she was incredibly warm. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
So you have made it your business | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
to collect around the little Welsh cottage | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
and have other things to do with it, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
and I notice here there's a lovely card based on a watercolour, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
but what is great is it's a very early card because inside - | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
it's a Christmas card - "To Mary", | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
and it's signed, in her hand, "From Lilibet". | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
-That's right. -As, of course, Her Majesty called herself | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
and as her close friends still call her. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
And do you know who Lady Mary is? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Lady Mary Cambridge went on to be | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
one of her bridesmaids at her wedding. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
Wonderful! | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
So that's that connection. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
So the other accessories that we have here - | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
the little house - that came later? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
Or is that something you purchased or...? | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
We found it and we just wanted to buy it, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
-simply because it was a replica of the cottage. -Exactly. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
But I would say the most valuable piece that you've brought along here | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
is actually the little signed Christmas card from Lilibet, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
because today, a retail price for that would be about £750. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
So...a lovely remembrance of a little girl | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
who just so loved what your father had created for her. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
So, not many people can say | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
that their mother actually played with the Queen. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
It sounds like a dance song, doesn't it? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
But not many people can say that. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
-No, that's true. -And so how does your mother know the Queen? | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
Well, our grandfather was the head gamekeeper to the Earl of Strathmore, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
the Queen Mother's father, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
and our grandmother was the head cook. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
-So here they are, your grandfather and your grandmother. -That's right. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
-She was the Mrs Bridges, was she? -Yes. -And who's this at the top? | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
-That's my mother with Zena. -And who is that? | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
-And that's me. -Oh, that's you? -As a little girl. -Haven't you grown? | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
Oh, that's lovely! Anyway these are the Strathmore family here, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
all looking very dour, I suppose, and the Queen Mother. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
-That's right. -Looking rather lovely on the end, and this photograph, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
a wonderful one of all the people from the kitchen, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-with your grandmother over there. -That's correct, yes. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
So tell me about this playing. How did it occur? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
Well, the Queen used to be brought by her nanny to play on the farm, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
when she was a little girl, about five or six, and my mother | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
and the Queen and Princess Margaret were one day playing | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
near the farm duck pond and the Queen used to take charge of the games. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
Oh, she was in charge? | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
Yes, that's right, and one day they were playing a naval game | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
and they were making little boats out of twigs and leaves | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
and floating them on the duck pond and they scribed a little channel | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
to a harbour that they'd constructed out of the mud in a nearby pond | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
and then they went off to their lunch - they were called away. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
And then, sometime later in the afternoon, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
there was a big commotion outside, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
and my mother went outside to find her father very angry | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
because the pond had been emptied, all the water | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
had drained out of it, by this little channel that they'd scribed. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
So the whole thing had been sort of scuppered. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-That's right, yes, and flooded the lane. -So who got into trouble? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
My mother, because of being one year older than the others, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
went to bed for her sins and when the nanny got to hear about this... | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
-Who was the nanny? -Clara Knight, she was known by the Princesses as Alla. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
-Alla. -I think it's because they couldn't say "Clara". | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
And so she sent down a book that had belonged to the Queen. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
So this book here? This book here, this lovely Aesop's Fables. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
-That's right. -With illustrations by Edward Detmold. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
-That's correct. -They are the most wonderful illustrations, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
typically Edwardian I suppose, very strong, very bright, very brilliant. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
But you know what I'm going to say about this book, don't you? | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
It's not in good condition. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
It's been enjoyed far too much. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
-Yes. -By the Princesses, by your mother. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
A fine copy would make around £500-£600. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
Your poor copy here would make less than a hundred, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
probably about £20-£30 or something but, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
with the Royal connection, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
that would go for considerably more than a fine copy. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
-Thank you, thank you. -You're welcome. Thank you. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
Royal duty started early. At the tender of age of 14, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
Princess Elizabeth - as she was then - made her first state broadcast. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
-And it was with your father, wasn't it? -That's right. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
With, of course, the very famous Uncle Mac of Children's Hour. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
-That's correct. -And did he talk to you about it? | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Well, he was very excited afterwards. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
I don't remember beforehand. I guess he was quite nervous. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
-Because you were very small then. -I was seven, yes. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
I can just about remember. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
It must have been a very important moment for him. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
I think it was probably the highlight of his career, I would think. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
And, of course, Children's Hour | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
broadcast to the nation, across the Empire. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
And what were his opening words? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-"Hello, children, everywhere". -Of course. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
This is the princesses here. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
-That's right. -Princess Elizabeth brought her sister to listen. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
Yes, and in the speech she says at the very end, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
"Now, come along, Margaret, come and say good night" | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
She says, "Goodnight, children." as well. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
-Now, we've got the broadcast here on a 78. -We have, yes. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
By the magic of technology we have got it now on a slightly more | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
-high-tech version, and we can listen to it. -Wonderful. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
So this is your father, Uncle Mac, starting off, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
and the Queen just 14 years old. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
RECORD PLAYS: Her Royal Highness, Princess Elizabeth. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
In wishing you all good evening, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
I feel that I am speaking to friends and companions | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
who have shared with my sister and myself, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
many a happy Children's Hour. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
Thousands of you in this country | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
have had to leave your homes | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
and be separated from your fathers and mothers. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
It's just adorable, isn't it, hearing her voice so young? | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Of course, this was 1940 when she made this speech, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
so children being evacuated and this was her speech to comfort | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
-the children of the nation and of the empire. -Yes, yes. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-So here you are, this is you two, presumably? -It is, yes. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
-With Uncle Mac, with Dad. -And Mummy. -And Mum. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
Did your father tell you anything about when he met the princesses and what they were like? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Well, the fact they were two sisters. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
And somebody asked me this question | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
and I think he was used to having two girls | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
and it was just two little girls, more or less the same age as his own. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
And presumably the broadcast, even with Princess Elizabeth, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
ended with the words that he always ended with. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
Let's hear it from you two. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
"Good night, children, everywhere." | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Come on, Margaret. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Good night, children. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
Good night and good luck to you all. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
We're used to thinking of our Queen in very regal attire | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
but when she was Princess Elizabeth, during the Second World War, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
she wore something quite different. How do you know about this? | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
Well, during the war she actually wore military uniform | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
because she attended a course at Camberley, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
all to do with motor transport and driving, and Highway Code, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
and she was in the ATS, which is the Auxiliary Territorial Service, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
and one of the other people on this course was my mother. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:25 | |
This is the Queen and that's my mother. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
And this was very unusual for a member of the Royal Family, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
particularly a female, to attend a public course. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
And this is your mum's diary? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Yes, she wrote a day-by-day diary and if I just read some of it. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
"The Commandant told us that we had the honour to be picked | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
"to attend a cadre course with the Princess Elizabeth for three weeks." | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
So what did the course involve? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
Well, everything to do with motor transport. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
How to change a tyre, how to change the plugs. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
I believe at one point she went home and told her father, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
the King, that she could now decoke an engine which I think is probably | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
a little exuberant, but anyway, you know, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
but by the end of it she could change a wheel with the best of them. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
Obviously the Queen held this period in her life with great affection | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
-because we have a lovely photograph here. -Yes. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
There was an advert in one of the magazines saying, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
"If you attended this course please would you write in." | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
So my mother did and they were invited up to... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
I think it was Eaton Square. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
They arrived and then a big black car pulled up, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
the Queen got out and they had a really good chinwag | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
and bun fight and what-have-you and thoroughly enjoyed it. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
And of course this is the Queen and your mum. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
My mother is the one in blue. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:42 | |
The one in blue, so very fond memories obviously of that time | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
and the Queen kept in touch. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Yes, my mother was taken ill, oh, what, three or four years ago, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
and somehow the Queen heard about it | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
and we received this lovely letter. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
And she says, "Her Majesty thinks about those times in war | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
"when you were both serving together at Camberley." A lovely touch. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
These are great memories and here we have to put a value on things. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
And obviously this is much more a sentiment than anything else, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
but certainly some of these photographs... | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
and I know you have about 30 of the photographs of Princess Elizabeth, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
these would be worth at least £100 each but, of course, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
to you, the story of your mother's involvement is much more important. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
Yes....I'm... Yes. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
I'm proud of my mother. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
A 21st birthday is a very important birthday. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
Princess Elizabeth spent her 21st birthday on HMS Vanguard in 1947. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:50 | |
What was she doing on HMS Vanguard in 1947? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Well, the Royal Family were doing a cruise to South Africa. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
I think it was probably a last attempt | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
to try to keep South Africa within the Commonwealth. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
But she happened to have her 21st birthday | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
while we were actually in Cape Town. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
So explain your connection with HMS Vanguard to me. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Well, I was Senior Sub-Lieutenant. I was "Sub of the Gun Rooms". | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
How did that work? | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
With the King, the Queen and two princesses walking round the decks? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
Yes, well, they kept very much to their own part of the ship. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Yes. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Because they didn't want to embarrass all of us at our work, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
but I mean they mixed very freely | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
and talked very freely with ship's company. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Well, I can see that from your album | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
because here are some photographs | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
and this is the crossing the line ceremony, isn't it? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Yes, that's right. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
You have this kind of ceremonial shaving as you cross the equator | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
and here is the Princess herself undergoing that ritual. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Now how far did that ceremony go? | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Well, yes, Princess Elizabeth got blasted with it and shaved | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
-and jumped into the pool. -Really?! | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
That's quite amazing. Also there's what appears to be | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
a kind of a cake decoration, can you explain to me what that is? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
Yes, well, that came off her 21st birthday cake | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
and I sucked all the icing off the stalk | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
but, I mean, it's... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
I've kept it stuck in an album ever since. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
So there you were eating a bit of birthday cake, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
were you with a few of your colleagues? | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Well, it was a huge party and, of course, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
I was just one of hundreds of people who were there. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
I think you're hiding your light under a bushel a bit, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
to be honest, because there's a wonderful letter that says, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
"Dear Mr Davidson," - of course that's you - | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
"It is most kind of you to invite us | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
"to come to the gun room on Saturday | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
"and we shall look forward very much indeed to our visit. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
"I am yours, very sincerely, Elizabeth R." | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
What in fact was the gun room? | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
The gun room was the mess for the Sub-Lieutenants and Midshipmen. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
-Right. -They had a nice little drink and they actually organised | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
some of the Midshipmen into a choir, a Russian choir. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
Right. Sounds like such a fun time. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Yeah, well, they were very entertaining and full of fun. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
Well, I think given the plethora of material in here, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
given that very lovely little signed letter, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
I have no hesitation in saying that probably, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
for insurance purposes, it should be around about the £800 mark. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
Mm, oh, well, I'd better do something about it. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
-Thank you very much, Marc. -Thank you. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Take a look at this photograph. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
This is the first time, captured on film, that Elizabeth met Philip. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
Now, this was when Princess Elizabeth was just 13, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
and there's Philip of course - the future Prince Philip - | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
who was at Dartmouth Royal Naval College | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
when Princess Elizabeth and her family were paying a visit. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
And this is the moment, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
according to Royal folklore anyway, where the romance began. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
And our story moves now to their wedding | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
and Hilary Kay has with her a visitor | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
who played a very special role on that day. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
I'm sitting here with somebody | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
who actually had a hand in stitching Princess Elizabeth's wedding dress. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
Lucky you! | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Now, you were working at Norman Hartnell, presumably? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
One should explain that Norman Hartnell was THE name | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
-as a society dressmaker and couturier, wasn't he? -Oh, he was. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
-He was the royal dressmaker. -You were a mere slip of a girl. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Tell me how you got involved on the wedding dress. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
Well, I was bring trained under Norman Hartnell's senior hand, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
Miss Holiday, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
and I remember Norman Hartnell coming to our workroom, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
coming to our table, with the sketch | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
that Princess Elizabeth had chosen for her wedding dress, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
and he said to Miss Holiday, "Would you please make her wedding dress?" | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
Miss Holiday hesitated and we said, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
"Oh, please, please!" So she said, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
-"Yes, I will. I will take it on" -Fantastic. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
And I had to do the buttonholes, make the buttonholes. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Now, you've got a wonderful scrapbook here, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
and I swear that I saw amongst these, some buttonholes, here. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
Now, how many of these buttonholes did you have to do | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
on the finished garment? Were there dozens? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
Well, there were 20 down the back because her dress fastened that way. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
-Mm, mm. -And I had never worked with buttonholes before, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
so Miss Holiday said, "Well, you sit there and you practise." | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
And they were two of the practice buttonholes. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
And I made the buttons as well. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
And you covered the... they're self-covered buttons. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
Yes, they are the same material, yes, as the wedding dress. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Fabulous! Now, skimming on in this wonderful album of yours, there is this fabulous photograph. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
-Now, this is presumably Hartnell's workroom. -It is. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
And, look, there's a circle, a blue circle round somebody here. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Could this be you, Betty? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
-It could. -Wonderful! | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
And how many of your fellow seamstresses, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
who worked on the dress, are still around and telling the story? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
We can't get in touch with anyone else. I don't know. I have tried. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
So you're the last living treasure, are you? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
I'm the last, yes. The last one alive and kicking I would think. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
And then, did you see it on the day? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
I did, and we did have a lovely position to see | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
the Royal procession and I remember seeing Princess Elizabeth | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
wearing that dress that I'd worked on, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
and she looked absolutely wonderful | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
in her tiara, sitting next to her father - the King. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Fantastic. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
It was lovely, it was lovely. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
Well, I mean it's difficult to put a value on a collection like this, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
because after all, they are just little snippets. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
-Mm. -Altogether, we're talking about a figure of between perhaps £500 | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
-and £700. -Oh, that sounds very nice! | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
Which is very nice but it's fabulous, Betty. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Thank you for telling your story | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
and as the last living treasure | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
to have stitched this dress in Norman Hartnell's workroom. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
-Yes, yes. -It's been an absolute joy. -A pleasure talking to you, thank you. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
Is this really a piece of the Queen's wedding cake? | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Yes, it really, really is a piece of the Queen's wedding cake. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
My granddad, Cyril Edwards, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
was part of the Guard of Honour for the Queen's wedding. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
I can see we've got a couple of photographs of him here in uniform. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
How did he get chosen to be in that Guard of Honour? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
We're not a hundred per cent sure. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
We know that he was on a ship with the Duke of Edinburgh | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
and we don't actually know whether he was invited | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
whilst he was still on active service, or whether it was after, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
but there's a group of petty officers, the Guard of Honour there. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
It's interesting, isn't it, to think | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
that there's a piece of cake in there | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
-that is well over 60 years old. -60 years old, yeah. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
This particular cake was rather interesting | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
because it almost didn't happen. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Just post-war, of course, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
rationing was still in force. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
There was an interesting solution to that. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
I think when this became a little bit of an issue, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
the ingredients came from somewhere else. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
Do you know where they came from? | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
-I don't, no. -Well, they came from Australia. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
-Really? -And the Girl Guides of Australia | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
sent all the ingredients over | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
for the wedding cake. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
It was known as the 10,000 mile wedding cake. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
It was nine foot tall and weighed over 500lbs. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
Let's have a look at your piece | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
because it'll only be a little piece. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Here it is, in its original wrapping. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
we open it up - got some tissue - look at the tissue, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
and we've even got some decorations from the top of the cake. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
-Yeah. -How wonderful, look at that. -So you can sort of get an idea. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
I think silver and green mainly was the colour scheme. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Yeah, obviously very delicate. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
I'll be very careful with that. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
If we go a little bit lower, we've got a cake mat in the top. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
-Yeah. -And then we get to the actual cake | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
and I can see there are some rather kind of mummified-looking raisins | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
-hanging around in there. -Well done. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
I'm not going further than this. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
-No. -I suspect that it's rather fragile. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
So whose decision was it not to eat the cake? | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
My Nan was actually a very staunch Royalist. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
She wouldn't have eaten the cake. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
She was so proud of my granddad actually taking part | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
in this big royal event | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
and she used to make quite a big thing | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
of showing it to visitors and people, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
just general people that she knew, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
that maybe didn't know that my granddad had been | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
in the Guard of Honour and she would, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
"Ooh, look, see what I've got in my display case." | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
And would get the cake out and would show it to various people. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
Well, as it turns out, it was a pretty wise decision. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
A piece just like this sold fairly recently for £1,000. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
Really?! A thousand pounds? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
£1,000. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:44 | |
I don't think that had better go back up in the loft, do you? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
So you're here today to tell me a story about your Godmother, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
but some people watching the programme | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
might recognise your voice as Brian Aldridge of The Archers. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
Well, indeed they might, but I am here to talk about my Godmother | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
and this is her here, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Adria, who was married to the private secretary | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
of the Governor General of Kenya in 1952. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
So in February 1952 what should have been a really joyous occasion | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
for Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
a holiday in Kenya, turned out to have tragic overtones. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Yeah, it was joyous to start with | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
and particularly joyous to my Godmother. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
They were so excited having this young couple. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
In fact, she wrote some wonderful letters back to her mother | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
which you've got there. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
Yes, I've got one. I've got one here. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
She says that, "She's very slim with Heavenly clothes." | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
And that "Heavenly" with a capital "H" | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
and, "He is much taller than I expected and really delightful, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
"enjoys everything and misses nothing, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
"always has the right thing to say | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
"at the right moment, to the right person." | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Well, there you are, what a surprise! | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
And how he's kept that up over the last 50 or 60 years, I think(!) | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
-Well known for it! -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
I love the little thing at the end where she says, | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
"They have just phoned from the lodge to say all is well, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
"except they have no tea strainer". | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
-Oh, my dear! Poor things. -I wonder who forgot to pack the tea strainer. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
A couple of days later she wrote another letter to her mother | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
with more wonderful stuff about the food they were eating and all that | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
and, of course, four days after that, wrote the letter which is so tragic. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
-Which of course her father had died and she was the Queen. -Absolutely. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
I must just get this letter which is, which is quite fun, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
because at the very, very top she writes | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
"PS: They had 74 pieces of luggage, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
"not counting jewel cases etc." | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
Well, it so happened that the Royal household | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
knew that the King was likely to die and had sent, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
amongst the 74 items of luggage, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
had sent one case full of mourning clothes. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
To their horror, when they opened it, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
they found there were no long black gloves for the young Queen to wear. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
So my Godmother stood up and said, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
"Well, why don't you have mine, Ma'am?" | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
And my Godmother was very proud and she said, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
"And I'd like you to know, dear, | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
"that when you saw that wonderful photograph of the young Queen | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
"sadly coming down the steps on the BOAC jet at Heathrow, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
"they are my long black gloves she's wearing." | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
And then she paused and she said, "But I have to tell you, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
"I've always been rather miffed that I never got them back". | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
In terms of value, they're not going to be very valuable | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
but it's because of the momentous occasion that this... | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
I think there would be historical value in them | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
and I think for all your things, I think we'd probably be talking £100. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
Oh, I'd be amazed they're worth that. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
But the story is fabulous. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
Good, yes. Imagine how much the gloves would be worth though! | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
In June 1953, the nation witnessed | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
the first televised Coronation, of course of Elizabeth II, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
and I'm here in the dress stores at Kensington Palace. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
Alexandra, you're the curator here, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
and you've got some remarkable pieces from that day. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Absolutely. One of the things we've got is a beautiful embroidery sample, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
made by Norman Hartnell to really display | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
the wonderful floral symbols that he was including in the Queen's dress. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
She was very insistent she wanted all Commonwealth countries represented, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
and that's something which has been very dear to her throughout her life, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
and it's lovely that it was there on this really important day in 1953. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
And do you have any of Hartnell's original designs? | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
Well, we do, actually. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:31 | |
What we've got are some of the designs for some of the other dresses | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
because he was also responsible | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
for most of the dresses worn by | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
the really important other women at the Coronation. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
So, for example, Princess Margaret's beautiful embroidered dress | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
and here we have an early design for that | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
with the beautiful floral embroidery. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
You can just imagine how this would have glistened | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
and glimmered as she walked down. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
That is beautiful, look at that. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
Absolutely. And he designed for the Queen Mother, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
for the Duchess of Kent | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
and also for the Maids of Honour, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
the six women who accompanied the Queen as she walked the aisle. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
So here we have a variety of designs allowing Hartnell to show everyone | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
and again for the Queen to make choices | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
about exactly what she wanted on the day. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
And of course extra pressure | 0:28:16 | 0:28:17 | |
because it was the first time a Coronation had been televised. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
Absolutely and I think. in that way, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:21 | |
Norman Hartnell was perhaps a perfect choice | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
because he wasn't just a fashion designer, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
he had a background in the theatre, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
and so, of course, well used to thinking about staging everything | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
and the way in which it would look visually as a whole set piece. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
So it wasn't just television that communicated the Coronation | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
to the nation but artists as well | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
and you have a print here | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
by Terence Cuneo of the Coronation, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
together with a preparatory drawing for this great painting. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
-Yes. -It's actually rather compelling, looking into this, isn't it? | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
It's the detail of it that I find phenomenal - | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
so many people and so much work in it - | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
and unmistakably that is a snapshot from history. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
You could see it from 100 metres away and go, "I know what that is". | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
And of course the moment is when Prince Philip is, fittingly, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
paying homage to his wife, the Queen. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
But what is so interesting about it is, yes, you have the print, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
but you have beneath it a drawing of none other than Prince Charles. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
How old is he in that? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
He was four years old when that was done, as a study for... | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
he appears just in the bottom here - as a study for the picture above. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
And I think the artist, Terence Cuneo, went to the palace | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
and spent a few hours sketching away | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
to try and get the right image. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
What I love about this sketch is the information, not only facially | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
that it contains, but the notes on top, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
one of which I think is particularly revealing. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
"Golden light" it says, pointing to Charles' head, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
and in the final picture, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
sure enough, a sort of divine glow around his head. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
So this is a little glimpse - a window - | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
into the huge amount of work that must have taken place. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
But what I think is lovely about this for an artist | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
who we associate with the jigsaw puzzle | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
and the tablemat and other types of sort of pub decoration, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
he was a very swift draughtsman of kids. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
I think it's an unusually good drawing, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
let alone the fact that it's of Prince Charles, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
and who knows, possibly the earliest portrait of him. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
So did you acquire these recently? | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
I bought them about a year ago. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
We were lucky enough to buy another oil painting by Terence Cuneo | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
and a dealer near where we live rang me up | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
and said he had this and it was a one-off and unique. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Went to see it, deliberated, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
because it's not his normal thing as you so rightly pointed out, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
and decided the two must go together. So, yes, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
we bought them both together about a year ago. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
And may I be so bold as to ask you what you paid? | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
Yes, of course, including all the framing | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
and all the other things that go with it, it was £4,000 for the pair. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
Well, do you know I think you've done very well. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
I mean, I would value this print, of which there are many examples, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
in fact you can see that it's numbered down there 349, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
at probably £200-£300 | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
but I think what you have here is a wriggling image | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
of the young Prince Charles. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
I think it's a Royal peach | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
and I would put a value of £6,000-£8,000 on it. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
Fantastic. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:53 | |
That was you at the Coronation, singing, "O Taste and See". | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
-It was. -Absolutely fantastic. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
I just don't know how you did it. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
As an old chorister myself from Westminster Abbey, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
you had done this ten years earlier | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
and we all held you up as the greatest thing there was, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
the greatest soloist ever. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
Oh, I don't think so! | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
Well, I believe it was quite an experience. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
It was an incredible experience, and how old were you? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
13 and a half. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
13 and a half and you were about to sing a solo | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
in front of your Queen, the rest of the world, and television cameras. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
What did it feel like? | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
-I was used to singing solos. -Yes. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
And we'd practised hard and long and so when the great day came itself, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
it was, dare I say, just another service in that sense of the word. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
Now, there were supposed to be three people singing that - | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
three senior choristers singing that "O Taste and See", weren't there? | 0:32:49 | 0:32:55 | |
-Yes. -And it came, and what happened? | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
I came in. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
And what happened to the rest? | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
Um...they'll probably kill me for saying so, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
but they came in on the second part. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
They came in on the second. So that was just entirely you. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
And what did you feel? You'd been let down by the other two? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Did you feel anything? Did you think, "Oh, my God!" | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Yeah, I think I probably did. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
So here we are, so many years later. What does it feel like? | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
I suppose now, at a much more advanced age, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
one is able to appreciate just how important it was. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
And for your grandchildren. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
-Yes, well... -That's important too. I see you've got a medal for it. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
-Yes, I got a... -So you fought in that war. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
And, of course, you've got the wonderful... | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
I would say the script but it is the service. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
The service, the order of service, yes. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
And you got it signed, I noticed. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Yes, we've got, er... | 0:33:51 | 0:33:52 | |
Osborne Peasgood, who was sub-organist at the Abbey. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
The sub-organist, yes. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
-And Harry Gabb, sub-organist at the Chapel Royal. -Chapel Royal. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
-Vaughan Williams. -Vaughan Williams. -Who wrote "O Taste and See" | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
Yes, Herbert Howells. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
And Herbert Howells who also wrote pieces for it. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
-Somewhere is Sir William Walton as well. -Sir William Walton | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
and then I notice on the back here, which is, I think, very nice. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
All the boys in the choir, there they all are. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
It's absolutely tremendous. How can I value this? | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
An old chorister of Westminster Abbey. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
Well, unless anybody knew that it was the chap who sang the solo, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
-they wouldn't know anything about it. -No. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
But for an old chorister, like myself, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
I would consider that a great treasure | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
to find that in an antique shop. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
But this, of course, I think is the best thing. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
An ordinary one like that you can pick them up today. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
What do they cost? | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
£25-£35 but yours, with the signatures, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
we're talking about £400 or £500 at least. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
It's tremendous stuff. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
Well, thank you for sharing those wonderful memories with us. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
Thank you for giving me the opportunity. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
As I said, they'll all go to my granddaughter eventually. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
No, you can't sell them! | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
Earlier I was looking at those wonderful dress designs | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
by Norman Hartnell for the Queen's Coronation | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
and with me is Lady Jane Rayne and, Lady Jane Rayne, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
you wore one of those dresses because you were a Maid of Honour. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
Now, I assume you would be a close friend of the Queen | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
to be one of the Maids of Honour but in fact you hardly knew her. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
I only met the Queen just once. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
I shook her by the hand when my parents took my sister and I | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
to a tea at Buckingham Palace when we were about seven and five. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
-So here you are. This is you here looking magnificent. -Yes. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
And so you think you were chosen, what, because of your heights? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
Well, I think that had something to do with it, because we had to | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
be uniform and the Queen is very small so we would have dwarfed her. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
It must have been quite a day and quite an honour. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
It was SUCH an honour. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
I don't think... Well, I've never forgotten it. I never will. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
It was the proudest day of my life. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
And what was your role, as Maid of Honour? | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
The Maids of Honour had to watch | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
every move of the Queen, follow everything. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
If she got up, you got up. If she turned left, you turned left, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
You just could never let go of the train, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
which was quite heavy even with six people carrying it. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
And to make things easier for her. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Because when the official pictures were taken... | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
This is you here sort of tucking her train in. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
-Yes, straightening it. -And the Queen looking very thoughtful. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
Yes, she does look thoughtful there. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
What about the Queen herself? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
Because of course it must have been very nerve-wracking for her. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
Well, if it was, it didn't show. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
She was so serene and calm | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
and smiling some of the time | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
and so natural, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:57 | |
because when we all got in line | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
with everybody in their places holding the train, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
she said... She looked round and then she said, "Shall we go, girls?" | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
And off we went. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
Tell me about the smelling salts. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
Well, you see these gloves that go almost up to the top of the arm? | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
The only way you could get your hand in was through this | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
little opening here with six little pearl buttons | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
and inside the pearl buttons, underneath, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
was a little glass phial of smelling salts. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
And thank goodness we had them | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
because when you stand for a long time - we hadn't eaten - | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
one of them felt very faint | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
and I suddenly felt something push against my back | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
and I sensed she was falling to the ground | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
and, luckily, the person on her right | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
whipped out - great presence of mind - | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
she whipped out, opened the glove, took out the little bottle, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
opened it and pushed it into her nose | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
and she took a big sniff | 0:37:59 | 0:38:00 | |
and somehow got through the rest of it all right, poor thing. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:06 | |
And what was the atmosphere like afterwards, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
when these pictures were taken? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
-I mean, it must have been some relief. -Well, it was. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
It was lovely because we could all just sort of have a good chat | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
and enjoy ourselves. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:17 | |
And could you have thought? | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
I mean, here we are, 60 years on, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
but could you have imagined, all this time on, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
-that she would still be on the throne? -No, no. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
And you'd be here talking about it! | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
I know, that's what's so remarkable. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
And...but it doesn't seem like 60 years to me, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
it just seems like the other day. It's extraordinary. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
And you can see more of these remarkable photographs | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
in the V&A's touring exhibition | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
"Queen Elizabeth II by Cecil Beaton". | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
Throughout history, we know that royalty have had an affinity | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
for certain breeds of dogs - | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
none more so than the Queen and her corgis. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
This is a wonderful story about a corgi called Susan. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
-Tell me about Susan. -Well, we only know that | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
from my father, who was a veterinary surgeon in Kings Lynn in Norfolk. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:10 | |
When the Queen used to come to Sandringham he and his colleagues | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
were in charge of looking after the small animals. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
And one day a footman came into the practice | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
and asked my father, could he have a look at this particular dog. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:27 | |
And my father obviously needed some information. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
The footman said, "Well, I'm not really sure that I know the answers." | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
So my father, on a scruffy piece of paper, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
wrote down some questions. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
Right. The first question is, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:41 | |
which of course he addressed to the Queen, was, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
"How long getting bigger?" and what happened? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
A note came back with hand-pencilled answers, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
and who's written those? Of course, the Queen. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
Was that something that he expected? | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
-No, he did not. -He didn't? -No, especially on the piece of paper. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
Especially on the scruffy... | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
Let's look at the answer that the Queen wrote. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
It says, "No idea, she's always been fat." | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:40:09 | 0:40:10 | |
It's a lovely, lovely little kind of... Yes, I know Susan. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
Susan was given to her on her 18th birthday | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
and of course we know thereafter | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
that all the corgis that the Queen has had | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
have been descended from Susan. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
And I think what happens is that this little note | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
brings us very close to the way that she felt about Susan. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
There's a poignant side to this story as well | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
because we also have another letter here. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
I have to read this letter because it says, "Dear Mr Swan," | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
-obviously Mr Swan being your father. -Father. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
"I would like to thank you for all you did for my dear old Susan | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
"when she became ill | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
"and for the immense amount of trouble you took in getting her | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
"sent to Cambridge and for all the care she had while she was there. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
"Perhaps you could express my thanks to your colleagues. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
"I had always dreaded losing her, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
"but I am so thankful that her suffering was so mercifully short. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
"She was very happily beating for us at our shooting the Friday before. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
"With renewed thanks, yours sincerely, Elizabeth R." | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
My father was so delighted to get this letter, you know, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
for her to actually write to him personally to say thank you. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
Did you talk to him and discuss how he felt about this? | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
No, he was very private about it. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
-Right. -And, being professional, he didn't disclose it too much, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
but obviously, yes, we did hear about it. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
I mean, it's very difficult putting values | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
on things like this, for the simple reason | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
that these are very personal to you and I feel they're probably worth | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
in the region of about £400-£600. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
-I would never sell them anyway. -Absolutely. -But thank you. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
Now, it's not often that I can look at somebody | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
who has not only seen the Queen, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
but also seen The Beatles in the same nanosecond, but here you are, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
-aged what? -14. -And what was the occasion? | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
It was an investiture at Buckingham Palace. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
My father had been awarded the OBE for services in the military. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
He was in the Territorial Army. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
The day we went was the same day that The Beatles went to get their MBE. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
Now, there are some pictures here. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
Yes, that I took, yes. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
-That you took on your instamatic or something? -Box Brownie or whatever. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
So tell me the scene | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
-because this scene does not look like a normal investiture. -No, no. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
When we got there, we went in a taxi | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
and we went through the gates of the palace | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
and there were thousands of screaming girls, mainly. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:41 | |
You didn't think they were all there for you? | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
It would have been nice, but no. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
OK, so you were ushered in. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
Yeah, a large hall | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
and we took our place up one side of the main hall. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:55 | |
My father was sent into a different ante-room, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
where all the different people | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
who were receiving honours were held, including The Beatles. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
And my father realised at the time, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
that if he didn't get The Beatles' autographs on that occasion, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:12 | |
he wouldn't have been well liked by his two sons, | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
so he managed to get across the hall where they were being held | 0:43:15 | 0:43:20 | |
and he managed to get The Beatles' autographs. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
Hang on, I've got this picture of this military gentleman | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
sort of running across and vaulting over chairs and... | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
-That's right, that's right. -Is that the scene he painted for you? | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
-Yes, I think that was for us. -And he got them signed on what? | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
Well, this is the letter | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
that commanded him to come to the investiture, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
and that was the only piece of paper that he had, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
that he could get the autographs on, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
and on the reverse are The Beatles' autographs. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
Isn't that fantastic? | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
I mean, the great thing is, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
-that your dad had a pen on him to mark the occasion. -Yes. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
-Now, he was well prepared. -He had a pen. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
Fabulous. And there's a great... Going to give that back to you. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
..there's a great write-up, isn't there? Here in the paper. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
Yeah, that was the local paper, the Chorley Guardian, I think. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
We were living near Chorley at the time. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
And it does, it mentions quite a lot about The Beatles at the top | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
and then just at the bottom it mentions the fact | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
that Colonel Smith, who was the local bank manager, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
also was at the palace getting his OBE, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
I don't think they were quite as interested in him as The Beatles. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
And I like this! Paul McCartney said, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
"She was just like a mum to us." | 0:44:31 | 0:44:32 | |
You can just imagine! | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
John said, "She asked me if I'd been working hard lately | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
"and I couldn't think what we'd been doing, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
"so I said, 'No, no, we've been having a holiday'." | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
Well, now, what you've got here actually, obviously, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
huge sentimental value to have your dad's... | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
-That's this. That's the OBE he got on that day. -The OBE he got on the day. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
But I have to say that these also have a financial value too. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:59 | |
The signed letter is just what Beatle fans want. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
It is... | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
There is no question about its authenticity, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
it was a very elite group of people who were there. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
-So these signed investiture letters, they're not unique by any means. -No. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
They fetch between about £3,000 and £4,000. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
So that's a nice little memento to have, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
but I would say that the other important thing from this day, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
from 26th October 1965, is maybe it was the first time | 0:45:25 | 0:45:30 | |
that the kings of the music industry met the Queen. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
The Queen IS the most photographed person in the entire world, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
I would expect, wouldn't you say that? | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
I would think so, yes, she's got such a wonderful smile | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
and she always looks so composed. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
Absolutely, and your father was Court Photographer. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
He was indeed, yes. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:57 | |
And this is a wonderful picture of him. What was his name? | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
-John Dixon. -John Dixon. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
It's so period, isn't it? | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
-Yes. -That is absolutely wonderful. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
Now tell me about this photograph here. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
There's the Queen and the Princess here | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
all trying to outdo the chandeliers | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
but who is this person here? | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
-This is Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxembourg. -Ah, yes, yes. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
And it's a very unusual photograph because at the time Marie-Astrid | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
was considered to be a possible future bride for Prince Charles | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
and the Queen would normally not have allowed herself to be photographed | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
with someone in that position, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
so as not to show any favouritism. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
Any favour, so, yes. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:36 | |
-She was Roman Catholic. -Ah, so I suppose that's it! | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
But you've got some wonderful other photographs here, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
piles of photographs! We can hardly show them all. I love this one here. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
Yes, the Queen really didn't like wearing hard hats | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
and very often she'd be given one | 0:46:49 | 0:46:50 | |
before she was taken on a tour of some building site, or whatever, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
and she had a habit of carrying it under her arm, | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
while still maintaining her royal hat. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
Of course nobody was going to tell her to put it on. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
I think the caption to this is, | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
"Haven't you got a blue one?" or something like that. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
-Or "A size six!" perhaps. -"Can you change it?" | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
I love it! | 0:47:09 | 0:47:10 | |
And this one here of the Duke of Edinburgh. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
-I'm sure none of these have ever been published, have they? -No. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
I have absolutely no idea what someone said. I think that's his detective behind him. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
Yeah, sort of listening to the plumbing or something. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
I think there's something very strange going on there. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
I love that. And another one which obviously is this one. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
I'm sorry to trivialise these | 0:47:30 | 0:47:31 | |
but they're not trivial at all, they're wonderful photographs. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
This one here which is almost one | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
-you'd see on the front of Private Eye. -Absolutely, yes. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
I've no idea what the Queen's saying but.... | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
-"How much?" -"How much is this reception costing?" | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
-She looks absolutely shocked! -"Are we paying?" | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
Yes. Tremendous, I love that, | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
and so he went along with her on Royal visits all over the world? | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
Absolutely. He went on 19 Royal tours in total in the 1970s. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
-Yes. -Particular memories...one of the early ones to Zambia, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
where the local police were, if anything, a little over-exuberant | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
and my father was pushed into a rose bush | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
seconds before the Queen's arrival | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
but he's lying there, spread-eagled on this rose bush, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
as the Queen walked past | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
and she just looked down at him and smiled and nodded and then walked on, | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
assuming he could take care of himself. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
Oh, that's wonderful, I'd love to have seen a photograph of that. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
-Yes, I don't think that was recorded. -No, I'm sure not. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
This is tremendous and it's a lovely sight of the Royal family, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
Thank you. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:34 | |
Absolute pleasure. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
The Queen's love and association with racing | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
and horses and so on, is well known. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
What's not so well known is her association with racing pigeons. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
Now, you know all about that, don't you? Tell me how you know. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
Well, I know a little about it. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
I moved with my family from Staffordshire to Norfolk | 0:48:56 | 0:49:01 | |
and met this gentleman, | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
-who became Keeper of the Royal Lofts in Sandringham. -How amazing! | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
-Yes. -And there's a lovely picture here. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
Is this you in the middle here, with Len here? | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
-Yes. A long time ago, yes. -So he became part of your extended family? | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
Well, sort of, yes, sort of, yes. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
And there's a wonderful picture here of Len | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
with a sort of pigeon carrier on a butcher's bike. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
-A butcher's bike, yeah. -Why didn't he put it in the car? | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
Well, he never drove, couldn't drive, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
and he used to go to Sandringham twice a day on his bike | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
and as he got older - | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
and he used to play football so his knees played up - | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
and Her Majesty suggested, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
would he like to have the lofts taken to his garden, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:50 | |
which was quite a large one, although it was only a small semi. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:54 | |
-Is this it? -Yes, that's it, yes. -How amazing. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
Now, you say that you knew him well. | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
I mean, did you know...? | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
Looking at these photographs here the Queen used to visit him? | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
Yes, about twice a year I think. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:05 | |
Amazing! There's the Queen | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
in her sort of country outfit, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
-this is presumably Len here, greeting her. -Yes. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
It's just extraordinary, isn't it? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:14 | |
Well, it's what she does, in her private life. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
Exactly, so the Queen used to come round, what, for tea, to Len's? | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
Well, it was normally a cup of coffee. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
I don't know what time of day but she had coffee, yes. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:28 | |
And I did say to Len, you know, "What do you give it her in?" | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
and he said he'd got two china cups and saucers | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
specially kept for her and the Lady in Waiting, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:41 | |
but he had a piece of cotton tied round the handle | 0:50:41 | 0:50:46 | |
of the cup that he gave the Queen, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
so that no-one else drank from it, only the Queen. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
And I jokingly said to him, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
"I hope you take the cotton off before you serve the Queen coffee!" | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
And he said, "No, of course not, I'd get them muddled up | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
"and I wouldn't know which was which". | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
So Her Majesty, if she watches this programme, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
she'll know now why the cotton was round the handle! | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
What did Len think? I mean, did Len think of it as a great honour | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
when the Queen came to visit? | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
Well, oh, absolutely, yes, yes. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
He always took it as a great honour | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
but he treated her as an ordinary person. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
I mean, he was gracious to her, as she was to him, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
but, you know, he wasn't rude or anything, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
but it was just his boss coming to see him. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
Well, it's a great story and I suppose there's one image | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
which I think probably sums up Len | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
and his relationship there with the Royal flight, I suppose, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:49 | |
there he is releasing a pigeon | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
-outside the gates of Sandringham. -Yes. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
It's often people that work for the Royal Family | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
that know far more about them than we do. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
Now, your partner's father worked | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
for Princess Elizabeth and then the Queen for how long? | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
Over 30 years. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
From, I believe, 1949 up to 1977, when he retired. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
And what was his job? | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
He was her personal page. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:23 | |
The official title was The Page of the Back Stairs. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
And just checking in this picture here, which one is he? | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
When she knighted Chichester, | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
Henry was this gentleman here | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
and you can see him holding the handbag that she gave to him | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
because she hadn't anywhere to put it down. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
And of course we've got a fabulous picture of her and him behind her. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:45 | |
He looked after her every need, really. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
Yes, whatever she wanted, he was there on hand, | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
like a right-hand man. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
If you met him, he was unassuming, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
he was quiet and you could see exactly why she chose him, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
because he was the soul of discretion. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
But he obviously had tremendous access to the Royal Family | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
and there are wonderful photographs he's taken | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
of the young Prince Charles and Princess Anne | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
and I think this is funny, | 0:53:09 | 0:53:10 | |
this birthday card with him | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
with a tray of gin and tonic. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
I think he was known in the palace as a joker | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
and they'd done that for him, yes. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
Because they do say the Queen Mum quite liked her G&T. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
I think she does, yes. And I think the Queen likes a gin and tonic too. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
So one of his more pleasurable tasks. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
She was known to say, after visiting a certain Prime Minister, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
"I need that, thank you, Bennett." | 0:53:31 | 0:53:32 | |
Oh, you see, you've got all these little stories you see! | 0:53:32 | 0:53:37 | |
I think those stories, and people like Bennett, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
show us a different side to the Queen. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
Oh, certainly, yes. I mean, she's got a... | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
Underneath it all, she has got a wicked sense of humour. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
Give me an example. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
Well, people used to come to dinner parties | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
and she was on the Royal Yacht Britannia. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
She considered that as her home. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
It was the only place that she'd furnished herself how she wanted | 0:53:56 | 0:54:01 | |
and apparently they used to check what to wear for dinner | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
because they never knew who was going to come aboard | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
and this particular night she'd said, | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
"Oh, Mufti." And so all of them are sat there waiting for her. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:14 | |
She's not normally late | 0:54:14 | 0:54:15 | |
and when she turned up, she turned up in full regalia. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
"Gotcha!" She says. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
It's a fascinating collection and in terms of valuation, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
I mean, it's several hundreds of pounds | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
for all the things you have, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
and it's such a fascinating collection. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
Thank you. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
I'm standing in front of one of my favourite images of Elizabeth II | 0:54:42 | 0:54:47 | |
and you, Michael Noakes, are the portrait painter who produced this. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:52 | |
Well, I did, absolutely. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:53 | |
It was a study for a big picture with lots of figures in it. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
So we're talking 1971-2. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
Er, two, three, that sort of time. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
As a professional portrait painter, many people have said to you, | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
"Is the Queen a good sitter?" | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
Well, she talks a lot, which is enormous fun. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
I must say every session I've had with her, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
I emerged thinking, "I really enjoyed that". | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
So what is the Michael Noakes interpretation of Her Majesty? | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
Because it's very distinctive. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
I have to say I love it, I don't know quite why I like it so much, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
because I think it's both regal and also human. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
Oh, well, thank you. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
What would you say you've brought to the Queen? | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
Well, I'd like to feel that I'm not particularly over-awed | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
by the people I sometimes paint, including the Queen. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
I mean, I feel that we're all... we're all creatures on Earth, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
however elevated she is and however significant she is. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
If you worry about that too much, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
you worry about what other people are going to make of it, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
and I wanted to do something | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
which had a sort of serious element in it, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
because it is a very serious operation that she carries out. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
I imagine you're probably very good at keeping the patter going. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
Well, it's quite difficult, actually, chatting and trying to paint. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
I mean, because the Queen is looking out of the window a lot | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
and running a commentary on what she sees. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
I mean, there was a time when a taxi got hit by a car | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
and the drama of it - | 0:56:11 | 0:56:12 | |
she got quite excited about it - | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
she said, "Oh, I wonder if there's going to be a fight now!" | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
Let's talk about the picture. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
I think, you know, as images of the Queen go, | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
I think this is terrific. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
I think you've got quite a lot of her humanity. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
I love the way she stands centrally, gazing, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:33 | |
in a way that's not quite your normal woman subject. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:37 | |
I can tell there's a bit of a queen about this. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
Before I do a valuation on Her Majesty, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
I see we have one of the Queen Mother as well. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
-Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother. -You've been busy with Royals. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
Well, that was painted, I suppose, about 1978-79. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
She was happy with it, I think, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
and I shouldn't say this about my own picture, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
but I actually rather like it. | 0:56:58 | 0:56:59 | |
I think it says something about her | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
which is not pompous and which is lively. Yes. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
So when it comes to valuation, my goodness me, this is difficult. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
With me here, especially. What's he going to say? | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
Thank you for being so sympathetic. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
Well, look, let's start with the Queen Mother. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
It's one of a number of versions | 0:57:15 | 0:57:16 | |
but I have to say it's a beautiful crisp rendering. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
I would say... Oh, I don't know, £15,000-£20,000. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
Her Majesty, well, £30,000-£40,000 I should think. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:29 | |
But who knows what could happen | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
if you had a group of well-heeled Royalists | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
who'd had a few drinks at a charity auction. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
I could see this going up and up. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
I think you've given the Queen the X-Factor. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
Ha-ha! | 0:57:41 | 0:57:42 | |
I hope you've enjoyed this | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
Diamond Jubilee edition of The Antiques Roadshow. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:50 | |
We've had fascinating insights into the 60 years of the Queen's reign | 0:57:50 | 0:57:54 | |
and the years leading up to that. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
Our thanks to Kensington Palace | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
and to all the guests who provided us with so many wonderful stories. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
She said, "Shall we go, girls?" and off we went. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
She'll know now why the cotton | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
was round the handle! | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
My sister is by my side and we are both going to say good night to you. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:22 | |
-Come on, Margaret. -Good night, children. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
Good night and good luck to you all. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
From the whole team on The Antiques Roadshow | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
and this special Diamond Jubilee celebration, | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
until next time, bye-bye. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:37 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:59:02 | 0:59:05 |