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We visit some prestigious locations on the Antiques Roadshow,

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from grand country estates

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to iconic institutions like Wimbledon Lawn Tennis Club.

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But, you know, it's not every day

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we get an invitation to a Royal palace,

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so tonight you're in for a treat

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as we set up our cameras at Kensington Palace

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for a special Diamond Jubilee edition of the Antiques Roadshow

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to celebrate 60 years of our Queen on the throne.

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Last year we appealed to you for Royal stories,

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intimate glimpses into the life of the Queen.

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Well, we had more responses than we could ever have hoped for -

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hundreds of eye-witness accounts

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of special moments in the life of Elizabeth II.

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Tonight we can share a handful with you, spanning the Queen's life

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from childhood to the present day - a kind of This is Your Life, Ma'am.

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Our venue today is Kensington Palace,

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home to Royal residents since the late 1600s

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and most significantly it was the birthplace and childhood home

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of the only other British monarch to celebrate 60 years on the throne.

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Queen Victoria held her first cabinet meeting in Kensington Palace

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on the 20th June 1837, aged just 18,

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a few hours after learning she was the monarch.

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Victoria reigned for 63 years,

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and like her great-great-granddaughter,

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her reign spanned periods of great change.

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You can stroll through many of Victoria's State Apartments here,

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in a new exhibition which charts the story of her life.

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Festivities for Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee

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took place across the nation,

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echoed 115 years later by the recent celebrations for our current Queen.

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And that's our cue to begin this special edition,

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as experts Hilary Kay, Clive Farahar, Judith Miller,

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Marc Allum and Philip Mould

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meet viewers with their own special stories

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celebrating the life of the Queen.

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Our first story is about a birthday gift from the people of Wales.

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I'm so lucky to be able to start the programme

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talking about Princess Elizabeth, aged 6,

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and the little Welsh cottage that was built

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two-fifths scale - not this one,

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which is a doll's house version -

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but two-fifths scale Welsh cottage built for her

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at the Royal Lodge in Windsor, and there's a lovely picture here.

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We've got the Duchess and the Duke and Elizabeth here

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and Margaret Rose, surrounded by dogs of assorted types and,

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you know, lovely family scene.

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Now, what's your story and your link to it?

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Well, my father was foreman

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when the cottage was transported to the grounds of the Royal Lodge

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and he was responsible for building the walls

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and making sure the bay windows were in correctly,

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siting the cottage and all the finishing touches.

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Brilliant, and there's a lovely photographic record, isn't it?

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Presumably, this is your Pa down here, is it?

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Yes, yes, it is here,

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and here is standing in the doorway of the completed cottage.

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Great, and this one here,

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which gives a lovely indication of the scale,

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because there's your dad. He was sort of normal dad height, was he?

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That's right, that's right, yes.

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And you can see he's way taller than the little front door,

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and the little Welsh house.

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Now I'm going to try and say it in Welsh. Y Bwthyn...

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Y Bwthyn Bach gwae-aeth.

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There'll be letters! But it's the best I can do.

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So, from his point of view, it was something he saw as a high point in his career.

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Absolutely, especially when he was working and the Duchess -

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she was the Duchess of York then - she would come round

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and just see how work was going and chat to him, quite regularly, so.

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Well, one hears a lot about the Duchess -

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the Queen Mother as she went on to be - she was incredibly warm.

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So you have made it your business

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to collect around the little Welsh cottage

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and have other things to do with it,

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and I notice here there's a lovely card based on a watercolour,

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but what is great is it's a very early card because inside -

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it's a Christmas card - "To Mary",

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and it's signed, in her hand, "From Lilibet".

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-That's right.

-As, of course, Her Majesty called herself

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and as her close friends still call her.

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And do you know who Lady Mary is?

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Lady Mary Cambridge went on to be

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one of her bridesmaids at her wedding.

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Wonderful!

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So that's that connection.

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So the other accessories that we have here -

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the little house - that came later?

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Or is that something you purchased or...?

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We found it and we just wanted to buy it,

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-simply because it was a replica of the cottage.

-Exactly.

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But I would say the most valuable piece that you've brought along here

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is actually the little signed Christmas card from Lilibet,

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because today, a retail price for that would be about £750.

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So...a lovely remembrance of a little girl

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who just so loved what your father had created for her.

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So, not many people can say

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that their mother actually played with the Queen.

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It sounds like a dance song, doesn't it?

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But not many people can say that.

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-No, that's true.

-And so how does your mother know the Queen?

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Well, our grandfather was the head gamekeeper to the Earl of Strathmore,

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the Queen Mother's father,

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and our grandmother was the head cook.

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-So here they are, your grandfather and your grandmother.

-That's right.

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-She was the Mrs Bridges, was she?

-Yes.

-And who's this at the top?

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-That's my mother with Zena.

-And who is that?

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-And that's me.

-Oh, that's you?

-As a little girl.

-Haven't you grown?

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Oh, that's lovely! Anyway these are the Strathmore family here,

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all looking very dour, I suppose, and the Queen Mother.

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-That's right.

-Looking rather lovely on the end, and this photograph,

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a wonderful one of all the people from the kitchen,

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-with your grandmother over there.

-That's correct, yes.

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So tell me about this playing. How did it occur?

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Well, the Queen used to be brought by her nanny to play on the farm,

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when she was a little girl, about five or six, and my mother

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and the Queen and Princess Margaret were one day playing

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near the farm duck pond and the Queen used to take charge of the games.

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Oh, she was in charge?

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Yes, that's right, and one day they were playing a naval game

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and they were making little boats out of twigs and leaves

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and floating them on the duck pond and they scribed a little channel

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to a harbour that they'd constructed out of the mud in a nearby pond

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and then they went off to their lunch - they were called away.

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And then, sometime later in the afternoon,

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there was a big commotion outside,

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and my mother went outside to find her father very angry

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because the pond had been emptied, all the water

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had drained out of it, by this little channel that they'd scribed.

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So the whole thing had been sort of scuppered.

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-That's right, yes, and flooded the lane.

-So who got into trouble?

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My mother, because of being one year older than the others,

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went to bed for her sins and when the nanny got to hear about this...

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-Who was the nanny?

-Clara Knight, she was known by the Princesses as Alla.

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-Alla.

-I think it's because they couldn't say "Clara".

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And so she sent down a book that had belonged to the Queen.

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So this book here? This book here, this lovely Aesop's Fables.

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-That's right.

-With illustrations by Edward Detmold.

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-That's correct.

-They are the most wonderful illustrations,

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typically Edwardian I suppose, very strong, very bright, very brilliant.

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But you know what I'm going to say about this book, don't you?

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It's not in good condition.

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It's been enjoyed far too much.

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-Yes.

-By the Princesses, by your mother.

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A fine copy would make around £500-£600.

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Your poor copy here would make less than a hundred,

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probably about £20-£30 or something but,

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with the Royal connection,

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that would go for considerably more than a fine copy.

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-Thank you, thank you.

-You're welcome. Thank you.

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Royal duty started early. At the tender of age of 14,

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Princess Elizabeth - as she was then - made her first state broadcast.

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-And it was with your father, wasn't it?

-That's right.

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With, of course, the very famous Uncle Mac of Children's Hour.

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-That's correct.

-And did he talk to you about it?

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Well, he was very excited afterwards.

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I don't remember beforehand. I guess he was quite nervous.

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-Because you were very small then.

-I was seven, yes.

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I can just about remember.

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It must have been a very important moment for him.

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I think it was probably the highlight of his career, I would think.

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And, of course, Children's Hour

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broadcast to the nation, across the Empire.

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And what were his opening words?

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-"Hello, children, everywhere".

-Of course.

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This is the princesses here.

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-That's right.

-Princess Elizabeth brought her sister to listen.

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Yes, and in the speech she says at the very end,

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"Now, come along, Margaret, come and say good night"

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She says, "Goodnight, children." as well.

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-Now, we've got the broadcast here on a 78.

-We have, yes.

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By the magic of technology we have got it now on a slightly more

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-high-tech version, and we can listen to it.

-Wonderful.

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So this is your father, Uncle Mac, starting off,

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and the Queen just 14 years old.

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RECORD PLAYS: Her Royal Highness, Princess Elizabeth.

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In wishing you all good evening,

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I feel that I am speaking to friends and companions

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who have shared with my sister and myself,

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many a happy Children's Hour.

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Thousands of you in this country

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have had to leave your homes

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and be separated from your fathers and mothers.

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It's just adorable, isn't it, hearing her voice so young?

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Of course, this was 1940 when she made this speech,

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so children being evacuated and this was her speech to comfort

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-the children of the nation and of the empire.

-Yes, yes.

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-So here you are, this is you two, presumably?

-It is, yes.

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-With Uncle Mac, with Dad.

-And Mummy.

-And Mum.

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Did your father tell you anything about when he met the princesses and what they were like?

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Well, the fact they were two sisters.

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And somebody asked me this question

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and I think he was used to having two girls

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and it was just two little girls, more or less the same age as his own.

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And presumably the broadcast, even with Princess Elizabeth,

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ended with the words that he always ended with.

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Let's hear it from you two.

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"Good night, children, everywhere."

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Come on, Margaret.

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Good night, children.

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Good night and good luck to you all.

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We're used to thinking of our Queen in very regal attire

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but when she was Princess Elizabeth, during the Second World War,

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she wore something quite different. How do you know about this?

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Well, during the war she actually wore military uniform

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because she attended a course at Camberley,

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all to do with motor transport and driving, and Highway Code,

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and she was in the ATS, which is the Auxiliary Territorial Service,

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and one of the other people on this course was my mother.

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This is the Queen and that's my mother.

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And this was very unusual for a member of the Royal Family,

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particularly a female, to attend a public course.

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And this is your mum's diary?

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Yes, she wrote a day-by-day diary and if I just read some of it.

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"The Commandant told us that we had the honour to be picked

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"to attend a cadre course with the Princess Elizabeth for three weeks."

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So what did the course involve?

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Well, everything to do with motor transport.

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How to change a tyre, how to change the plugs.

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I believe at one point she went home and told her father,

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the King, that she could now decoke an engine which I think is probably

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a little exuberant, but anyway, you know,

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but by the end of it she could change a wheel with the best of them.

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Obviously the Queen held this period in her life with great affection

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-because we have a lovely photograph here.

-Yes.

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There was an advert in one of the magazines saying,

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"If you attended this course please would you write in."

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So my mother did and they were invited up to...

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I think it was Eaton Square.

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They arrived and then a big black car pulled up,

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the Queen got out and they had a really good chinwag

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and bun fight and what-have-you and thoroughly enjoyed it.

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And of course this is the Queen and your mum.

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My mother is the one in blue.

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The one in blue, so very fond memories obviously of that time

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and the Queen kept in touch.

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Yes, my mother was taken ill, oh, what, three or four years ago,

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and somehow the Queen heard about it

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and we received this lovely letter.

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And she says, "Her Majesty thinks about those times in war

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"when you were both serving together at Camberley." A lovely touch.

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These are great memories and here we have to put a value on things.

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And obviously this is much more a sentiment than anything else,

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but certainly some of these photographs...

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and I know you have about 30 of the photographs of Princess Elizabeth,

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these would be worth at least £100 each but, of course,

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to you, the story of your mother's involvement is much more important.

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Yes....I'm... Yes.

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I'm proud of my mother.

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A 21st birthday is a very important birthday.

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Princess Elizabeth spent her 21st birthday on HMS Vanguard in 1947.

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What was she doing on HMS Vanguard in 1947?

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Well, the Royal Family were doing a cruise to South Africa.

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I think it was probably a last attempt

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to try to keep South Africa within the Commonwealth.

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But she happened to have her 21st birthday

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while we were actually in Cape Town.

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So explain your connection with HMS Vanguard to me.

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Well, I was Senior Sub-Lieutenant. I was "Sub of the Gun Rooms".

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How did that work?

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With the King, the Queen and two princesses walking round the decks?

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Yes, well, they kept very much to their own part of the ship.

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Yes.

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Because they didn't want to embarrass all of us at our work,

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but I mean they mixed very freely

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and talked very freely with ship's company.

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Well, I can see that from your album

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because here are some photographs

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and this is the crossing the line ceremony, isn't it?

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Yes, that's right.

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You have this kind of ceremonial shaving as you cross the equator

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and here is the Princess herself undergoing that ritual.

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Now how far did that ceremony go?

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Well, yes, Princess Elizabeth got blasted with it and shaved

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-and jumped into the pool.

-Really?!

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Oh, yes.

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That's quite amazing. Also there's what appears to be

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a kind of a cake decoration, can you explain to me what that is?

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Yes, well, that came off her 21st birthday cake

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and I sucked all the icing off the stalk

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but, I mean, it's...

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I've kept it stuck in an album ever since.

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So there you were eating a bit of birthday cake,

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were you with a few of your colleagues?

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Well, it was a huge party and, of course,

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I was just one of hundreds of people who were there.

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I think you're hiding your light under a bushel a bit,

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to be honest, because there's a wonderful letter that says,

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"Dear Mr Davidson," - of course that's you -

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"It is most kind of you to invite us

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"to come to the gun room on Saturday

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"and we shall look forward very much indeed to our visit.

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"I am yours, very sincerely, Elizabeth R."

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What in fact was the gun room?

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The gun room was the mess for the Sub-Lieutenants and Midshipmen.

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-Right.

-They had a nice little drink and they actually organised

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some of the Midshipmen into a choir, a Russian choir.

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Right. Sounds like such a fun time.

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Yeah, well, they were very entertaining and full of fun.

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Well, I think given the plethora of material in here,

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given that very lovely little signed letter,

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I have no hesitation in saying that probably,

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for insurance purposes, it should be around about the £800 mark.

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Mm, oh, well, I'd better do something about it.

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-Thank you very much, Marc.

-Thank you.

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Take a look at this photograph.

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This is the first time, captured on film, that Elizabeth met Philip.

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Now, this was when Princess Elizabeth was just 13,

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and there's Philip of course - the future Prince Philip -

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who was at Dartmouth Royal Naval College

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when Princess Elizabeth and her family were paying a visit.

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And this is the moment,

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according to Royal folklore anyway, where the romance began.

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And our story moves now to their wedding

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and Hilary Kay has with her a visitor

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who played a very special role on that day.

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I'm sitting here with somebody

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who actually had a hand in stitching Princess Elizabeth's wedding dress.

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Lucky you!

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Now, you were working at Norman Hartnell, presumably?

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One should explain that Norman Hartnell was THE name

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-as a society dressmaker and couturier, wasn't he?

-Oh, he was.

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-He was the royal dressmaker.

-You were a mere slip of a girl.

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Tell me how you got involved on the wedding dress.

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Well, I was bring trained under Norman Hartnell's senior hand,

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Miss Holiday,

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and I remember Norman Hartnell coming to our workroom,

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coming to our table, with the sketch

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that Princess Elizabeth had chosen for her wedding dress,

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and he said to Miss Holiday, "Would you please make her wedding dress?"

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Miss Holiday hesitated and we said,

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"Oh, please, please!" So she said,

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-"Yes, I will. I will take it on"

-Fantastic.

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And I had to do the buttonholes, make the buttonholes.

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Now, you've got a wonderful scrapbook here,

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and I swear that I saw amongst these, some buttonholes, here.

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Now, how many of these buttonholes did you have to do

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on the finished garment? Were there dozens?

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Well, there were 20 down the back because her dress fastened that way.

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-Mm, mm.

-And I had never worked with buttonholes before,

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so Miss Holiday said, "Well, you sit there and you practise."

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And they were two of the practice buttonholes.

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And I made the buttons as well.

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And you covered the... they're self-covered buttons.

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Yes, they are the same material, yes, as the wedding dress.

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Fabulous! Now, skimming on in this wonderful album of yours, there is this fabulous photograph.

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-Now, this is presumably Hartnell's workroom.

-It is.

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And, look, there's a circle, a blue circle round somebody here.

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Could this be you, Betty?

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-It could.

-Wonderful!

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And how many of your fellow seamstresses,

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who worked on the dress, are still around and telling the story?

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We can't get in touch with anyone else. I don't know. I have tried.

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So you're the last living treasure, are you?

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I'm the last, yes. The last one alive and kicking I would think.

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And then, did you see it on the day?

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I did, and we did have a lovely position to see

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the Royal procession and I remember seeing Princess Elizabeth

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wearing that dress that I'd worked on,

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and she looked absolutely wonderful

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in her tiara, sitting next to her father - the King.

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Fantastic.

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It was lovely, it was lovely.

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Well, I mean it's difficult to put a value on a collection like this,

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because after all, they are just little snippets.

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-Mm.

-Altogether, we're talking about a figure of between perhaps £500

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-and £700.

-Oh, that sounds very nice!

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Which is very nice but it's fabulous, Betty.

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Thank you for telling your story

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and as the last living treasure

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to have stitched this dress in Norman Hartnell's workroom.

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-Yes, yes.

-It's been an absolute joy.

-A pleasure talking to you, thank you.

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Is this really a piece of the Queen's wedding cake?

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Yes, it really, really is a piece of the Queen's wedding cake.

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My granddad, Cyril Edwards,

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was part of the Guard of Honour for the Queen's wedding.

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I can see we've got a couple of photographs of him here in uniform.

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How did he get chosen to be in that Guard of Honour?

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We're not a hundred per cent sure.

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We know that he was on a ship with the Duke of Edinburgh

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and we don't actually know whether he was invited

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whilst he was still on active service, or whether it was after,

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but there's a group of petty officers, the Guard of Honour there.

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It's interesting, isn't it, to think

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that there's a piece of cake in there

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-that is well over 60 years old.

-60 years old, yeah.

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This particular cake was rather interesting

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because it almost didn't happen.

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Just post-war, of course,

0:21:460:21:48

rationing was still in force.

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There was an interesting solution to that.

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I think when this became a little bit of an issue,

0:21:520:21:54

the ingredients came from somewhere else.

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Do you know where they came from?

0:21:570:21:59

-I don't, no.

-Well, they came from Australia.

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-Really?

-And the Girl Guides of Australia

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sent all the ingredients over

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for the wedding cake.

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It was known as the 10,000 mile wedding cake.

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It was nine foot tall and weighed over 500lbs.

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Let's have a look at your piece

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because it'll only be a little piece.

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Here it is, in its original wrapping.

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we open it up - got some tissue - look at the tissue,

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and we've even got some decorations from the top of the cake.

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-Yeah.

-How wonderful, look at that.

-So you can sort of get an idea.

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I think silver and green mainly was the colour scheme.

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Yeah, obviously very delicate.

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I'll be very careful with that.

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If we go a little bit lower, we've got a cake mat in the top.

0:22:390:22:42

-Yeah.

-And then we get to the actual cake

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and I can see there are some rather kind of mummified-looking raisins

0:22:440:22:49

-hanging around in there.

-Well done.

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I'm not going further than this.

0:22:510:22:53

-No.

-I suspect that it's rather fragile.

0:22:530:22:55

So whose decision was it not to eat the cake?

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My Nan was actually a very staunch Royalist.

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She wouldn't have eaten the cake.

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She was so proud of my granddad actually taking part

0:23:020:23:06

in this big royal event

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and she used to make quite a big thing

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of showing it to visitors and people,

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just general people that she knew,

0:23:150:23:17

that maybe didn't know that my granddad had been

0:23:170:23:20

in the Guard of Honour and she would,

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"Ooh, look, see what I've got in my display case."

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And would get the cake out and would show it to various people.

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Well, as it turns out, it was a pretty wise decision.

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A piece just like this sold fairly recently for £1,000.

0:23:340:23:39

Really?! A thousand pounds?

0:23:390:23:43

£1,000.

0:23:430:23:44

I don't think that had better go back up in the loft, do you?

0:23:440:23:47

So you're here today to tell me a story about your Godmother,

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but some people watching the programme

0:23:560:23:58

might recognise your voice as Brian Aldridge of The Archers.

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Well, indeed they might, but I am here to talk about my Godmother

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and this is her here,

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Adria, who was married to the private secretary

0:24:060:24:09

of the Governor General of Kenya in 1952.

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So in February 1952 what should have been a really joyous occasion

0:24:130:24:17

for Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip,

0:24:170:24:19

a holiday in Kenya, turned out to have tragic overtones.

0:24:190:24:22

Yeah, it was joyous to start with

0:24:220:24:23

and particularly joyous to my Godmother.

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They were so excited having this young couple.

0:24:250:24:29

In fact, she wrote some wonderful letters back to her mother

0:24:290:24:32

which you've got there.

0:24:320:24:33

Yes, I've got one. I've got one here.

0:24:330:24:35

She says that, "She's very slim with Heavenly clothes."

0:24:350:24:38

And that "Heavenly" with a capital "H"

0:24:380:24:40

and, "He is much taller than I expected and really delightful,

0:24:400:24:43

"enjoys everything and misses nothing,

0:24:430:24:46

"always has the right thing to say

0:24:460:24:48

"at the right moment, to the right person."

0:24:480:24:50

Well, there you are, what a surprise!

0:24:500:24:52

And how he's kept that up over the last 50 or 60 years, I think(!)

0:24:520:24:55

-Well known for it!

-Yeah, absolutely.

0:24:550:24:57

I love the little thing at the end where she says,

0:24:570:24:59

"They have just phoned from the lodge to say all is well,

0:24:590:25:02

"except they have no tea strainer".

0:25:020:25:04

-Oh, my dear! Poor things.

-I wonder who forgot to pack the tea strainer.

0:25:040:25:08

A couple of days later she wrote another letter to her mother

0:25:080:25:10

with more wonderful stuff about the food they were eating and all that

0:25:100:25:13

and, of course, four days after that, wrote the letter which is so tragic.

0:25:130:25:18

-Which of course her father had died and she was the Queen.

-Absolutely.

0:25:180:25:22

I must just get this letter which is, which is quite fun,

0:25:220:25:24

because at the very, very top she writes

0:25:240:25:28

"PS: They had 74 pieces of luggage,

0:25:280:25:30

"not counting jewel cases etc."

0:25:300:25:32

Well, it so happened that the Royal household

0:25:320:25:34

knew that the King was likely to die and had sent,

0:25:340:25:38

amongst the 74 items of luggage,

0:25:380:25:41

had sent one case full of mourning clothes.

0:25:410:25:44

To their horror, when they opened it,

0:25:440:25:46

they found there were no long black gloves for the young Queen to wear.

0:25:460:25:50

So my Godmother stood up and said,

0:25:500:25:52

"Well, why don't you have mine, Ma'am?"

0:25:520:25:55

And my Godmother was very proud and she said,

0:25:550:25:58

"And I'd like you to know, dear,

0:25:580:25:59

"that when you saw that wonderful photograph of the young Queen

0:25:590:26:03

"sadly coming down the steps on the BOAC jet at Heathrow,

0:26:030:26:07

"they are my long black gloves she's wearing."

0:26:070:26:10

And then she paused and she said, "But I have to tell you,

0:26:100:26:12

"I've always been rather miffed that I never got them back".

0:26:120:26:16

In terms of value, they're not going to be very valuable

0:26:170:26:20

but it's because of the momentous occasion that this...

0:26:200:26:24

I think there would be historical value in them

0:26:240:26:26

and I think for all your things, I think we'd probably be talking £100.

0:26:260:26:30

Oh, I'd be amazed they're worth that.

0:26:300:26:33

But the story is fabulous.

0:26:330:26:35

Good, yes. Imagine how much the gloves would be worth though!

0:26:350:26:39

In June 1953, the nation witnessed

0:26:480:26:50

the first televised Coronation, of course of Elizabeth II,

0:26:500:26:53

and I'm here in the dress stores at Kensington Palace.

0:26:530:26:56

Alexandra, you're the curator here,

0:26:560:26:58

and you've got some remarkable pieces from that day.

0:26:580:27:01

Absolutely. One of the things we've got is a beautiful embroidery sample,

0:27:010:27:05

made by Norman Hartnell to really display

0:27:050:27:09

the wonderful floral symbols that he was including in the Queen's dress.

0:27:090:27:14

She was very insistent she wanted all Commonwealth countries represented,

0:27:140:27:19

and that's something which has been very dear to her throughout her life,

0:27:190:27:23

and it's lovely that it was there on this really important day in 1953.

0:27:230:27:27

And do you have any of Hartnell's original designs?

0:27:270:27:30

Well, we do, actually.

0:27:300:27:31

What we've got are some of the designs for some of the other dresses

0:27:310:27:34

because he was also responsible

0:27:340:27:35

for most of the dresses worn by

0:27:350:27:37

the really important other women at the Coronation.

0:27:370:27:41

So, for example, Princess Margaret's beautiful embroidered dress

0:27:410:27:45

and here we have an early design for that

0:27:450:27:47

with the beautiful floral embroidery.

0:27:470:27:49

You can just imagine how this would have glistened

0:27:490:27:52

and glimmered as she walked down.

0:27:520:27:54

That is beautiful, look at that.

0:27:540:27:56

Absolutely. And he designed for the Queen Mother,

0:27:560:27:59

for the Duchess of Kent

0:27:590:28:00

and also for the Maids of Honour,

0:28:000:28:03

the six women who accompanied the Queen as she walked the aisle.

0:28:030:28:07

So here we have a variety of designs allowing Hartnell to show everyone

0:28:070:28:10

and again for the Queen to make choices

0:28:100:28:13

about exactly what she wanted on the day.

0:28:130:28:16

And of course extra pressure

0:28:160:28:17

because it was the first time a Coronation had been televised.

0:28:170:28:20

Absolutely and I think. in that way,

0:28:200:28:21

Norman Hartnell was perhaps a perfect choice

0:28:210:28:23

because he wasn't just a fashion designer,

0:28:230:28:26

he had a background in the theatre,

0:28:260:28:28

and so, of course, well used to thinking about staging everything

0:28:280:28:31

and the way in which it would look visually as a whole set piece.

0:28:310:28:35

So it wasn't just television that communicated the Coronation

0:28:490:28:52

to the nation but artists as well

0:28:520:28:55

and you have a print here

0:28:550:28:57

by Terence Cuneo of the Coronation,

0:28:570:29:00

together with a preparatory drawing for this great painting.

0:29:000:29:04

-Yes.

-It's actually rather compelling, looking into this, isn't it?

0:29:040:29:07

It's the detail of it that I find phenomenal -

0:29:070:29:09

so many people and so much work in it -

0:29:090:29:12

and unmistakably that is a snapshot from history.

0:29:120:29:15

You could see it from 100 metres away and go, "I know what that is".

0:29:150:29:18

And of course the moment is when Prince Philip is, fittingly,

0:29:180:29:21

paying homage to his wife, the Queen.

0:29:210:29:24

But what is so interesting about it is, yes, you have the print,

0:29:240:29:28

but you have beneath it a drawing of none other than Prince Charles.

0:29:280:29:33

How old is he in that?

0:29:330:29:35

He was four years old when that was done, as a study for...

0:29:350:29:39

he appears just in the bottom here - as a study for the picture above.

0:29:390:29:43

And I think the artist, Terence Cuneo, went to the palace

0:29:430:29:46

and spent a few hours sketching away

0:29:460:29:48

to try and get the right image.

0:29:480:29:50

What I love about this sketch is the information, not only facially

0:29:500:29:55

that it contains, but the notes on top,

0:29:550:29:58

one of which I think is particularly revealing.

0:29:580:30:01

"Golden light" it says, pointing to Charles' head,

0:30:010:30:04

and in the final picture,

0:30:040:30:07

sure enough, a sort of divine glow around his head.

0:30:070:30:11

So this is a little glimpse - a window -

0:30:110:30:13

into the huge amount of work that must have taken place.

0:30:130:30:16

But what I think is lovely about this for an artist

0:30:160:30:20

who we associate with the jigsaw puzzle

0:30:200:30:22

and the tablemat and other types of sort of pub decoration,

0:30:220:30:27

he was a very swift draughtsman of kids.

0:30:270:30:30

I think it's an unusually good drawing,

0:30:300:30:32

let alone the fact that it's of Prince Charles,

0:30:320:30:35

and who knows, possibly the earliest portrait of him.

0:30:350:30:39

So did you acquire these recently?

0:30:390:30:42

I bought them about a year ago.

0:30:420:30:44

We were lucky enough to buy another oil painting by Terence Cuneo

0:30:440:30:48

and a dealer near where we live rang me up

0:30:480:30:51

and said he had this and it was a one-off and unique.

0:30:510:30:54

Went to see it, deliberated,

0:30:540:30:56

because it's not his normal thing as you so rightly pointed out,

0:30:560:30:59

and decided the two must go together. So, yes,

0:30:590:31:03

we bought them both together about a year ago.

0:31:030:31:05

And may I be so bold as to ask you what you paid?

0:31:050:31:08

Yes, of course, including all the framing

0:31:080:31:10

and all the other things that go with it, it was £4,000 for the pair.

0:31:100:31:14

Well, do you know I think you've done very well.

0:31:140:31:16

I mean, I would value this print, of which there are many examples,

0:31:160:31:20

in fact you can see that it's numbered down there 349,

0:31:200:31:23

at probably £200-£300

0:31:230:31:27

but I think what you have here is a wriggling image

0:31:270:31:31

of the young Prince Charles.

0:31:310:31:33

I think it's a Royal peach

0:31:330:31:35

and I would put a value of £6,000-£8,000 on it.

0:31:350:31:39

Thank you very much.

0:31:390:31:41

Fantastic.

0:31:520:31:53

That was you at the Coronation, singing, "O Taste and See".

0:31:530:31:58

-It was.

-Absolutely fantastic.

0:31:580:32:00

I just don't know how you did it.

0:32:000:32:02

As an old chorister myself from Westminster Abbey,

0:32:020:32:05

you had done this ten years earlier

0:32:050:32:09

and we all held you up as the greatest thing there was,

0:32:090:32:13

the greatest soloist ever.

0:32:130:32:15

Oh, I don't think so!

0:32:150:32:17

Well, I believe it was quite an experience.

0:32:170:32:20

It was an incredible experience, and how old were you?

0:32:200:32:22

13 and a half.

0:32:220:32:24

13 and a half and you were about to sing a solo

0:32:240:32:28

in front of your Queen, the rest of the world, and television cameras.

0:32:280:32:32

What did it feel like?

0:32:320:32:34

-I was used to singing solos.

-Yes.

0:32:340:32:37

And we'd practised hard and long and so when the great day came itself,

0:32:370:32:41

it was, dare I say, just another service in that sense of the word.

0:32:410:32:45

Now, there were supposed to be three people singing that -

0:32:450:32:49

three senior choristers singing that "O Taste and See", weren't there?

0:32:490:32:55

-Yes.

-And it came, and what happened?

0:32:550:32:58

I came in.

0:33:000:33:01

And what happened to the rest?

0:33:010:33:03

Um...they'll probably kill me for saying so,

0:33:030:33:06

but they came in on the second part.

0:33:060:33:09

They came in on the second. So that was just entirely you.

0:33:090:33:12

And what did you feel? You'd been let down by the other two?

0:33:120:33:15

Did you feel anything? Did you think, "Oh, my God!"

0:33:150:33:18

Yeah, I think I probably did.

0:33:180:33:21

So here we are, so many years later. What does it feel like?

0:33:210:33:24

I suppose now, at a much more advanced age,

0:33:250:33:29

one is able to appreciate just how important it was.

0:33:290:33:33

And for your grandchildren.

0:33:330:33:35

-Yes, well...

-That's important too. I see you've got a medal for it.

0:33:350:33:38

-Yes, I got a...

-So you fought in that war.

0:33:380:33:40

And, of course, you've got the wonderful...

0:33:400:33:44

I would say the script but it is the service.

0:33:440:33:47

The service, the order of service, yes.

0:33:470:33:49

And you got it signed, I noticed.

0:33:490:33:51

Yes, we've got, er...

0:33:510:33:52

Osborne Peasgood, who was sub-organist at the Abbey.

0:33:520:33:54

The sub-organist, yes.

0:33:540:33:56

-And Harry Gabb, sub-organist at the Chapel Royal.

-Chapel Royal.

0:33:560:33:59

-Vaughan Williams.

-Vaughan Williams.

-Who wrote "O Taste and See"

0:33:590:34:02

Yes, Herbert Howells.

0:34:020:34:04

And Herbert Howells who also wrote pieces for it.

0:34:040:34:07

-Somewhere is Sir William Walton as well.

-Sir William Walton

0:34:070:34:10

and then I notice on the back here, which is, I think, very nice.

0:34:100:34:13

All the boys in the choir, there they all are.

0:34:130:34:18

It's absolutely tremendous. How can I value this?

0:34:200:34:23

An old chorister of Westminster Abbey.

0:34:230:34:26

Well, unless anybody knew that it was the chap who sang the solo,

0:34:260:34:30

-they wouldn't know anything about it.

-No.

0:34:300:34:34

But for an old chorister, like myself,

0:34:340:34:36

I would consider that a great treasure

0:34:360:34:38

to find that in an antique shop.

0:34:380:34:40

But this, of course, I think is the best thing.

0:34:400:34:42

An ordinary one like that you can pick them up today.

0:34:420:34:44

What do they cost?

0:34:440:34:46

£25-£35 but yours, with the signatures,

0:34:460:34:49

we're talking about £400 or £500 at least.

0:34:490:34:52

It's tremendous stuff.

0:34:520:34:54

Well, thank you for sharing those wonderful memories with us.

0:34:540:34:57

Thank you for giving me the opportunity.

0:34:570:35:01

As I said, they'll all go to my granddaughter eventually.

0:35:010:35:06

No, you can't sell them!

0:35:060:35:08

Earlier I was looking at those wonderful dress designs

0:35:150:35:18

by Norman Hartnell for the Queen's Coronation

0:35:180:35:20

and with me is Lady Jane Rayne and, Lady Jane Rayne,

0:35:200:35:23

you wore one of those dresses because you were a Maid of Honour.

0:35:230:35:27

Now, I assume you would be a close friend of the Queen

0:35:270:35:30

to be one of the Maids of Honour but in fact you hardly knew her.

0:35:300:35:33

I only met the Queen just once.

0:35:330:35:36

I shook her by the hand when my parents took my sister and I

0:35:360:35:40

to a tea at Buckingham Palace when we were about seven and five.

0:35:400:35:45

-So here you are. This is you here looking magnificent.

-Yes.

0:35:450:35:50

And so you think you were chosen, what, because of your heights?

0:35:500:35:55

Well, I think that had something to do with it, because we had to

0:35:550:35:58

be uniform and the Queen is very small so we would have dwarfed her.

0:35:580:36:03

It must have been quite a day and quite an honour.

0:36:030:36:05

It was SUCH an honour.

0:36:050:36:07

I don't think... Well, I've never forgotten it. I never will.

0:36:070:36:10

It was the proudest day of my life.

0:36:100:36:13

And what was your role, as Maid of Honour?

0:36:130:36:15

The Maids of Honour had to watch

0:36:150:36:18

every move of the Queen, follow everything.

0:36:180:36:21

If she got up, you got up. If she turned left, you turned left,

0:36:210:36:25

You just could never let go of the train,

0:36:250:36:27

which was quite heavy even with six people carrying it.

0:36:270:36:31

And to make things easier for her.

0:36:310:36:33

Because when the official pictures were taken...

0:36:330:36:35

This is you here sort of tucking her train in.

0:36:350:36:38

-Yes, straightening it.

-And the Queen looking very thoughtful.

0:36:380:36:41

Yes, she does look thoughtful there.

0:36:410:36:43

What about the Queen herself?

0:36:430:36:45

Because of course it must have been very nerve-wracking for her.

0:36:450:36:49

Well, if it was, it didn't show.

0:36:490:36:51

She was so serene and calm

0:36:510:36:53

and smiling some of the time

0:36:530:36:56

and so natural,

0:36:560:36:57

because when we all got in line

0:36:570:36:59

with everybody in their places holding the train,

0:36:590:37:02

she said... She looked round and then she said, "Shall we go, girls?"

0:37:020:37:07

And off we went.

0:37:070:37:08

Tell me about the smelling salts.

0:37:080:37:11

Well, you see these gloves that go almost up to the top of the arm?

0:37:110:37:16

The only way you could get your hand in was through this

0:37:160:37:20

little opening here with six little pearl buttons

0:37:200:37:23

and inside the pearl buttons, underneath,

0:37:230:37:27

was a little glass phial of smelling salts.

0:37:270:37:30

And thank goodness we had them

0:37:300:37:34

because when you stand for a long time - we hadn't eaten -

0:37:340:37:38

one of them felt very faint

0:37:380:37:39

and I suddenly felt something push against my back

0:37:390:37:43

and I sensed she was falling to the ground

0:37:430:37:47

and, luckily, the person on her right

0:37:470:37:50

whipped out - great presence of mind -

0:37:500:37:52

she whipped out, opened the glove, took out the little bottle,

0:37:520:37:56

opened it and pushed it into her nose

0:37:560:37:59

and she took a big sniff

0:37:590:38:00

and somehow got through the rest of it all right, poor thing.

0:38:000:38:06

And what was the atmosphere like afterwards,

0:38:060:38:08

when these pictures were taken?

0:38:080:38:09

-I mean, it must have been some relief.

-Well, it was.

0:38:090:38:11

It was lovely because we could all just sort of have a good chat

0:38:110:38:16

and enjoy ourselves.

0:38:160:38:17

And could you have thought?

0:38:170:38:19

I mean, here we are, 60 years on,

0:38:190:38:22

but could you have imagined, all this time on,

0:38:220:38:24

-that she would still be on the throne?

-No, no.

0:38:240:38:26

And you'd be here talking about it!

0:38:260:38:28

I know, that's what's so remarkable.

0:38:280:38:30

And...but it doesn't seem like 60 years to me,

0:38:300:38:34

it just seems like the other day. It's extraordinary.

0:38:340:38:37

And you can see more of these remarkable photographs

0:38:390:38:43

in the V&A's touring exhibition

0:38:430:38:45

"Queen Elizabeth II by Cecil Beaton".

0:38:450:38:48

Throughout history, we know that royalty have had an affinity

0:38:490:38:52

for certain breeds of dogs -

0:38:520:38:54

none more so than the Queen and her corgis.

0:38:540:38:58

This is a wonderful story about a corgi called Susan.

0:38:580:39:02

-Tell me about Susan.

-Well, we only know that

0:39:020:39:04

from my father, who was a veterinary surgeon in Kings Lynn in Norfolk.

0:39:040:39:10

When the Queen used to come to Sandringham he and his colleagues

0:39:100:39:13

were in charge of looking after the small animals.

0:39:130:39:16

And one day a footman came into the practice

0:39:160:39:21

and asked my father, could he have a look at this particular dog.

0:39:210:39:27

And my father obviously needed some information.

0:39:270:39:30

The footman said, "Well, I'm not really sure that I know the answers."

0:39:300:39:34

So my father, on a scruffy piece of paper,

0:39:340:39:37

wrote down some questions.

0:39:370:39:40

Right. The first question is,

0:39:400:39:41

which of course he addressed to the Queen, was,

0:39:410:39:46

"How long getting bigger?" and what happened?

0:39:460:39:50

A note came back with hand-pencilled answers,

0:39:500:39:53

and who's written those? Of course, the Queen.

0:39:530:39:57

Was that something that he expected?

0:39:570:39:59

-No, he did not.

-He didn't?

-No, especially on the piece of paper.

0:39:590:40:02

Especially on the scruffy...

0:40:020:40:04

Let's look at the answer that the Queen wrote.

0:40:040:40:06

It says, "No idea, she's always been fat."

0:40:060:40:09

THEY CHUCKLE

0:40:090:40:10

It's a lovely, lovely little kind of... Yes, I know Susan.

0:40:100:40:15

Susan was given to her on her 18th birthday

0:40:150:40:19

and of course we know thereafter

0:40:190:40:21

that all the corgis that the Queen has had

0:40:210:40:24

have been descended from Susan.

0:40:240:40:26

And I think what happens is that this little note

0:40:260:40:29

brings us very close to the way that she felt about Susan.

0:40:290:40:32

There's a poignant side to this story as well

0:40:320:40:35

because we also have another letter here.

0:40:350:40:39

I have to read this letter because it says, "Dear Mr Swan,"

0:40:390:40:42

-obviously Mr Swan being your father.

-Father.

0:40:420:40:45

"I would like to thank you for all you did for my dear old Susan

0:40:450:40:48

"when she became ill

0:40:480:40:50

"and for the immense amount of trouble you took in getting her

0:40:500:40:54

"sent to Cambridge and for all the care she had while she was there.

0:40:540:40:57

"Perhaps you could express my thanks to your colleagues.

0:40:570:41:00

"I had always dreaded losing her,

0:41:000:41:02

"but I am so thankful that her suffering was so mercifully short.

0:41:020:41:06

"She was very happily beating for us at our shooting the Friday before.

0:41:060:41:10

"With renewed thanks, yours sincerely, Elizabeth R."

0:41:100:41:13

My father was so delighted to get this letter, you know,

0:41:130:41:17

for her to actually write to him personally to say thank you.

0:41:170:41:21

Did you talk to him and discuss how he felt about this?

0:41:210:41:24

No, he was very private about it.

0:41:240:41:26

-Right.

-And, being professional, he didn't disclose it too much,

0:41:260:41:29

but obviously, yes, we did hear about it.

0:41:290:41:32

I mean, it's very difficult putting values

0:41:320:41:34

on things like this, for the simple reason

0:41:340:41:36

that these are very personal to you and I feel they're probably worth

0:41:360:41:39

in the region of about £400-£600.

0:41:390:41:42

-I would never sell them anyway.

-Absolutely.

-But thank you.

0:41:420:41:45

Now, it's not often that I can look at somebody

0:41:510:41:55

who has not only seen the Queen,

0:41:550:41:57

but also seen The Beatles in the same nanosecond, but here you are,

0:41:570:42:01

-aged what?

-14.

-And what was the occasion?

0:42:010:42:04

It was an investiture at Buckingham Palace.

0:42:040:42:07

My father had been awarded the OBE for services in the military.

0:42:070:42:12

He was in the Territorial Army.

0:42:120:42:14

The day we went was the same day that The Beatles went to get their MBE.

0:42:140:42:18

Now, there are some pictures here.

0:42:180:42:20

Yes, that I took, yes.

0:42:200:42:23

-That you took on your instamatic or something?

-Box Brownie or whatever.

0:42:230:42:26

So tell me the scene

0:42:260:42:27

-because this scene does not look like a normal investiture.

-No, no.

0:42:270:42:30

When we got there, we went in a taxi

0:42:300:42:33

and we went through the gates of the palace

0:42:330:42:36

and there were thousands of screaming girls, mainly.

0:42:360:42:41

You didn't think they were all there for you?

0:42:410:42:43

It would have been nice, but no.

0:42:430:42:45

OK, so you were ushered in.

0:42:460:42:48

Yeah, a large hall

0:42:480:42:50

and we took our place up one side of the main hall.

0:42:500:42:55

My father was sent into a different ante-room,

0:42:550:42:58

where all the different people

0:42:580:43:00

who were receiving honours were held, including The Beatles.

0:43:000:43:04

And my father realised at the time,

0:43:040:43:07

that if he didn't get The Beatles' autographs on that occasion,

0:43:070:43:12

he wouldn't have been well liked by his two sons,

0:43:120:43:15

so he managed to get across the hall where they were being held

0:43:150:43:20

and he managed to get The Beatles' autographs.

0:43:200:43:24

Hang on, I've got this picture of this military gentleman

0:43:240:43:27

sort of running across and vaulting over chairs and...

0:43:270:43:31

-That's right, that's right.

-Is that the scene he painted for you?

0:43:310:43:34

-Yes, I think that was for us.

-And he got them signed on what?

0:43:340:43:37

Well, this is the letter

0:43:370:43:39

that commanded him to come to the investiture,

0:43:390:43:42

and that was the only piece of paper that he had,

0:43:420:43:45

that he could get the autographs on,

0:43:450:43:47

and on the reverse are The Beatles' autographs.

0:43:470:43:50

Isn't that fantastic?

0:43:500:43:52

I mean, the great thing is,

0:43:520:43:54

-that your dad had a pen on him to mark the occasion.

-Yes.

0:43:540:43:57

-Now, he was well prepared.

-He had a pen.

0:43:570:43:59

Fabulous. And there's a great... Going to give that back to you.

0:43:590:44:02

..there's a great write-up, isn't there? Here in the paper.

0:44:020:44:05

Yeah, that was the local paper, the Chorley Guardian, I think.

0:44:050:44:08

We were living near Chorley at the time.

0:44:080:44:11

And it does, it mentions quite a lot about The Beatles at the top

0:44:110:44:14

and then just at the bottom it mentions the fact

0:44:140:44:17

that Colonel Smith, who was the local bank manager,

0:44:170:44:20

also was at the palace getting his OBE,

0:44:200:44:23

I don't think they were quite as interested in him as The Beatles.

0:44:230:44:26

And I like this! Paul McCartney said,

0:44:260:44:31

"She was just like a mum to us."

0:44:310:44:32

You can just imagine!

0:44:320:44:34

John said, "She asked me if I'd been working hard lately

0:44:340:44:37

"and I couldn't think what we'd been doing,

0:44:370:44:39

"so I said, 'No, no, we've been having a holiday'."

0:44:390:44:41

Well, now, what you've got here actually, obviously,

0:44:410:44:45

huge sentimental value to have your dad's...

0:44:450:44:49

-That's this. That's the OBE he got on that day.

-The OBE he got on the day.

0:44:490:44:53

But I have to say that these also have a financial value too.

0:44:530:44:59

The signed letter is just what Beatle fans want.

0:44:590:45:03

It is...

0:45:030:45:05

There is no question about its authenticity,

0:45:050:45:08

it was a very elite group of people who were there.

0:45:080:45:11

-So these signed investiture letters, they're not unique by any means.

-No.

0:45:110:45:15

They fetch between about £3,000 and £4,000.

0:45:150:45:18

So that's a nice little memento to have,

0:45:180:45:21

but I would say that the other important thing from this day,

0:45:210:45:25

from 26th October 1965, is maybe it was the first time

0:45:250:45:30

that the kings of the music industry met the Queen.

0:45:300:45:34

The Queen IS the most photographed person in the entire world,

0:45:410:45:45

I would expect, wouldn't you say that?

0:45:450:45:47

I would think so, yes, she's got such a wonderful smile

0:45:470:45:50

and she always looks so composed.

0:45:500:45:52

Absolutely, and your father was Court Photographer.

0:45:520:45:56

He was indeed, yes.

0:45:560:45:57

And this is a wonderful picture of him. What was his name?

0:45:570:46:00

-John Dixon.

-John Dixon.

0:46:000:46:02

It's so period, isn't it?

0:46:020:46:05

-Yes.

-That is absolutely wonderful.

0:46:050:46:08

Now tell me about this photograph here.

0:46:080:46:10

There's the Queen and the Princess here

0:46:100:46:12

all trying to outdo the chandeliers

0:46:120:46:14

but who is this person here?

0:46:140:46:16

-This is Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxembourg.

-Ah, yes, yes.

0:46:160:46:19

And it's a very unusual photograph because at the time Marie-Astrid

0:46:190:46:22

was considered to be a possible future bride for Prince Charles

0:46:220:46:26

and the Queen would normally not have allowed herself to be photographed

0:46:260:46:30

with someone in that position,

0:46:300:46:32

so as not to show any favouritism.

0:46:320:46:35

Any favour, so, yes.

0:46:350:46:36

-She was Roman Catholic.

-Ah, so I suppose that's it!

0:46:360:46:39

But you've got some wonderful other photographs here,

0:46:390:46:42

piles of photographs! We can hardly show them all. I love this one here.

0:46:420:46:46

Yes, the Queen really didn't like wearing hard hats

0:46:460:46:49

and very often she'd be given one

0:46:490:46:50

before she was taken on a tour of some building site, or whatever,

0:46:500:46:54

and she had a habit of carrying it under her arm,

0:46:540:46:57

while still maintaining her royal hat.

0:46:570:47:00

Of course nobody was going to tell her to put it on.

0:47:000:47:02

I think the caption to this is,

0:47:020:47:04

"Haven't you got a blue one?" or something like that.

0:47:040:47:07

-Or "A size six!" perhaps.

-"Can you change it?"

0:47:070:47:09

I love it!

0:47:090:47:10

And this one here of the Duke of Edinburgh.

0:47:100:47:13

-I'm sure none of these have ever been published, have they?

-No.

0:47:130:47:17

I have absolutely no idea what someone said. I think that's his detective behind him.

0:47:170:47:21

Yeah, sort of listening to the plumbing or something.

0:47:210:47:24

I think there's something very strange going on there.

0:47:240:47:27

I love that. And another one which obviously is this one.

0:47:270:47:30

I'm sorry to trivialise these

0:47:300:47:31

but they're not trivial at all, they're wonderful photographs.

0:47:310:47:34

This one here which is almost one

0:47:340:47:36

-you'd see on the front of Private Eye.

-Absolutely, yes.

0:47:360:47:39

I've no idea what the Queen's saying but....

0:47:390:47:41

-"How much?"

-"How much is this reception costing?"

0:47:410:47:45

-She looks absolutely shocked!

-"Are we paying?"

0:47:450:47:48

Yes. Tremendous, I love that,

0:47:480:47:51

and so he went along with her on Royal visits all over the world?

0:47:510:47:55

Absolutely. He went on 19 Royal tours in total in the 1970s.

0:47:550:47:59

-Yes.

-Particular memories...one of the early ones to Zambia,

0:47:590:48:03

where the local police were, if anything, a little over-exuberant

0:48:030:48:07

and my father was pushed into a rose bush

0:48:070:48:10

seconds before the Queen's arrival

0:48:100:48:12

but he's lying there, spread-eagled on this rose bush,

0:48:120:48:15

as the Queen walked past

0:48:150:48:17

and she just looked down at him and smiled and nodded and then walked on,

0:48:170:48:20

assuming he could take care of himself.

0:48:200:48:23

Oh, that's wonderful, I'd love to have seen a photograph of that.

0:48:230:48:27

-Yes, I don't think that was recorded.

-No, I'm sure not.

0:48:270:48:29

This is tremendous and it's a lovely sight of the Royal family,

0:48:290:48:33

Thank you.

0:48:330:48:34

Absolute pleasure.

0:48:340:48:36

The Queen's love and association with racing

0:48:410:48:44

and horses and so on, is well known.

0:48:440:48:47

What's not so well known is her association with racing pigeons.

0:48:470:48:51

Now, you know all about that, don't you? Tell me how you know.

0:48:510:48:54

Well, I know a little about it.

0:48:540:48:56

I moved with my family from Staffordshire to Norfolk

0:48:560:49:01

and met this gentleman,

0:49:010:49:03

-who became Keeper of the Royal Lofts in Sandringham.

-How amazing!

0:49:030:49:07

-Yes.

-And there's a lovely picture here.

0:49:070:49:11

Is this you in the middle here, with Len here?

0:49:110:49:14

-Yes. A long time ago, yes.

-So he became part of your extended family?

0:49:140:49:18

Well, sort of, yes, sort of, yes.

0:49:180:49:20

And there's a wonderful picture here of Len

0:49:200:49:24

with a sort of pigeon carrier on a butcher's bike.

0:49:240:49:28

-A butcher's bike, yeah.

-Why didn't he put it in the car?

0:49:280:49:30

Well, he never drove, couldn't drive,

0:49:300:49:32

and he used to go to Sandringham twice a day on his bike

0:49:320:49:36

and as he got older -

0:49:360:49:38

and he used to play football so his knees played up -

0:49:380:49:42

and Her Majesty suggested,

0:49:420:49:44

would he like to have the lofts taken to his garden,

0:49:440:49:50

which was quite a large one, although it was only a small semi.

0:49:500:49:54

-Is this it?

-Yes, that's it, yes.

-How amazing.

0:49:540:49:57

Now, you say that you knew him well.

0:49:570:49:59

I mean, did you know...?

0:49:590:50:01

Looking at these photographs here the Queen used to visit him?

0:50:010:50:04

Yes, about twice a year I think.

0:50:040:50:05

Amazing! There's the Queen

0:50:050:50:07

in her sort of country outfit,

0:50:070:50:09

-this is presumably Len here, greeting her.

-Yes.

0:50:090:50:13

It's just extraordinary, isn't it?

0:50:130:50:14

Well, it's what she does, in her private life.

0:50:140:50:17

Exactly, so the Queen used to come round, what, for tea, to Len's?

0:50:170:50:22

Well, it was normally a cup of coffee.

0:50:220:50:24

I don't know what time of day but she had coffee, yes.

0:50:240:50:28

And I did say to Len, you know, "What do you give it her in?"

0:50:280:50:32

and he said he'd got two china cups and saucers

0:50:320:50:36

specially kept for her and the Lady in Waiting,

0:50:360:50:41

but he had a piece of cotton tied round the handle

0:50:410:50:46

of the cup that he gave the Queen,

0:50:460:50:48

so that no-one else drank from it, only the Queen.

0:50:480:50:52

And I jokingly said to him,

0:50:520:50:54

"I hope you take the cotton off before you serve the Queen coffee!"

0:50:540:50:59

And he said, "No, of course not, I'd get them muddled up

0:50:590:51:02

"and I wouldn't know which was which".

0:51:020:51:05

So Her Majesty, if she watches this programme,

0:51:050:51:09

she'll know now why the cotton was round the handle!

0:51:090:51:12

What did Len think? I mean, did Len think of it as a great honour

0:51:120:51:16

when the Queen came to visit?

0:51:160:51:18

Well, oh, absolutely, yes, yes.

0:51:180:51:21

He always took it as a great honour

0:51:210:51:24

but he treated her as an ordinary person.

0:51:240:51:28

I mean, he was gracious to her, as she was to him,

0:51:280:51:31

but, you know, he wasn't rude or anything,

0:51:310:51:33

but it was just his boss coming to see him.

0:51:330:51:37

Well, it's a great story and I suppose there's one image

0:51:370:51:40

which I think probably sums up Len

0:51:400:51:43

and his relationship there with the Royal flight, I suppose,

0:51:430:51:49

there he is releasing a pigeon

0:51:490:51:52

-outside the gates of Sandringham.

-Yes.

0:51:520:51:54

It's often people that work for the Royal Family

0:52:010:52:04

that know far more about them than we do.

0:52:040:52:06

Now, your partner's father worked

0:52:060:52:08

for Princess Elizabeth and then the Queen for how long?

0:52:080:52:12

Over 30 years.

0:52:120:52:14

From, I believe, 1949 up to 1977, when he retired.

0:52:140:52:19

And what was his job?

0:52:190:52:22

He was her personal page.

0:52:220:52:23

The official title was The Page of the Back Stairs.

0:52:230:52:25

And just checking in this picture here, which one is he?

0:52:250:52:29

When she knighted Chichester,

0:52:290:52:31

Henry was this gentleman here

0:52:310:52:33

and you can see him holding the handbag that she gave to him

0:52:330:52:36

because she hadn't anywhere to put it down.

0:52:360:52:38

And of course we've got a fabulous picture of her and him behind her.

0:52:390:52:45

He looked after her every need, really.

0:52:450:52:47

Yes, whatever she wanted, he was there on hand,

0:52:470:52:49

like a right-hand man.

0:52:490:52:52

If you met him, he was unassuming,

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he was quiet and you could see exactly why she chose him,

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because he was the soul of discretion.

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But he obviously had tremendous access to the Royal Family

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and there are wonderful photographs he's taken

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of the young Prince Charles and Princess Anne

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and I think this is funny,

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this birthday card with him

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with a tray of gin and tonic.

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I think he was known in the palace as a joker

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and they'd done that for him, yes.

0:53:170:53:19

Because they do say the Queen Mum quite liked her G&T.

0:53:190:53:21

I think she does, yes. And I think the Queen likes a gin and tonic too.

0:53:210:53:25

So one of his more pleasurable tasks.

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She was known to say, after visiting a certain Prime Minister,

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"I need that, thank you, Bennett."

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Oh, you see, you've got all these little stories you see!

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I think those stories, and people like Bennett,

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show us a different side to the Queen.

0:53:390:53:41

Oh, certainly, yes. I mean, she's got a...

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Underneath it all, she has got a wicked sense of humour.

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Give me an example.

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Well, people used to come to dinner parties

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and she was on the Royal Yacht Britannia.

0:53:510:53:53

She considered that as her home.

0:53:530:53:56

It was the only place that she'd furnished herself how she wanted

0:53:560:54:01

and apparently they used to check what to wear for dinner

0:54:010:54:04

because they never knew who was going to come aboard

0:54:040:54:07

and this particular night she'd said,

0:54:070:54:09

"Oh, Mufti." And so all of them are sat there waiting for her.

0:54:090:54:14

She's not normally late

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and when she turned up, she turned up in full regalia.

0:54:150:54:19

"Gotcha!" She says.

0:54:200:54:22

It's a fascinating collection and in terms of valuation,

0:54:240:54:27

I mean, it's several hundreds of pounds

0:54:270:54:30

for all the things you have,

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and it's such a fascinating collection.

0:54:330:54:35

Thank you.

0:54:350:54:37

I'm standing in front of one of my favourite images of Elizabeth II

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and you, Michael Noakes, are the portrait painter who produced this.

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Well, I did, absolutely.

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It was a study for a big picture with lots of figures in it.

0:54:530:54:56

So we're talking 1971-2.

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Er, two, three, that sort of time.

0:54:580:55:00

As a professional portrait painter, many people have said to you,

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"Is the Queen a good sitter?"

0:55:040:55:06

Well, she talks a lot, which is enormous fun.

0:55:060:55:09

I must say every session I've had with her,

0:55:090:55:12

I emerged thinking, "I really enjoyed that".

0:55:120:55:14

So what is the Michael Noakes interpretation of Her Majesty?

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Because it's very distinctive.

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I have to say I love it, I don't know quite why I like it so much,

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because I think it's both regal and also human.

0:55:230:55:26

Oh, well, thank you.

0:55:260:55:28

What would you say you've brought to the Queen?

0:55:280:55:31

Well, I'd like to feel that I'm not particularly over-awed

0:55:310:55:34

by the people I sometimes paint, including the Queen.

0:55:340:55:38

I mean, I feel that we're all... we're all creatures on Earth,

0:55:380:55:42

however elevated she is and however significant she is.

0:55:420:55:44

If you worry about that too much,

0:55:440:55:46

you worry about what other people are going to make of it,

0:55:460:55:48

and I wanted to do something

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which had a sort of serious element in it,

0:55:500:55:52

because it is a very serious operation that she carries out.

0:55:520:55:55

I imagine you're probably very good at keeping the patter going.

0:55:550:55:58

Well, it's quite difficult, actually, chatting and trying to paint.

0:55:580:56:02

I mean, because the Queen is looking out of the window a lot

0:56:020:56:05

and running a commentary on what she sees.

0:56:050:56:07

I mean, there was a time when a taxi got hit by a car

0:56:070:56:11

and the drama of it -

0:56:110:56:12

she got quite excited about it -

0:56:120:56:14

she said, "Oh, I wonder if there's going to be a fight now!"

0:56:140:56:17

Let's talk about the picture.

0:56:170:56:20

I think, you know, as images of the Queen go,

0:56:200:56:23

I think this is terrific.

0:56:230:56:25

I think you've got quite a lot of her humanity.

0:56:250:56:27

I love the way she stands centrally, gazing,

0:56:270:56:33

in a way that's not quite your normal woman subject.

0:56:330:56:37

I can tell there's a bit of a queen about this.

0:56:370:56:40

Before I do a valuation on Her Majesty,

0:56:400:56:44

I see we have one of the Queen Mother as well.

0:56:440:56:46

-Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother.

-You've been busy with Royals.

0:56:460:56:49

Well, that was painted, I suppose, about 1978-79.

0:56:490:56:53

She was happy with it, I think,

0:56:530:56:55

and I shouldn't say this about my own picture,

0:56:550:56:58

but I actually rather like it.

0:56:580:56:59

I think it says something about her

0:56:590:57:01

which is not pompous and which is lively. Yes.

0:57:010:57:04

So when it comes to valuation, my goodness me, this is difficult.

0:57:040:57:07

With me here, especially. What's he going to say?

0:57:070:57:10

Thank you for being so sympathetic.

0:57:100:57:12

Well, look, let's start with the Queen Mother.

0:57:120:57:15

It's one of a number of versions

0:57:150:57:16

but I have to say it's a beautiful crisp rendering.

0:57:160:57:19

I would say... Oh, I don't know, £15,000-£20,000.

0:57:190:57:23

Her Majesty, well, £30,000-£40,000 I should think.

0:57:230:57:29

But who knows what could happen

0:57:290:57:31

if you had a group of well-heeled Royalists

0:57:310:57:34

who'd had a few drinks at a charity auction.

0:57:340:57:37

I could see this going up and up.

0:57:370:57:39

I think you've given the Queen the X-Factor.

0:57:390:57:41

Ha-ha!

0:57:410:57:42

I hope you've enjoyed this

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Diamond Jubilee edition of The Antiques Roadshow.

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We've had fascinating insights into the 60 years of the Queen's reign

0:57:500:57:54

and the years leading up to that.

0:57:540:57:56

Our thanks to Kensington Palace

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and to all the guests who provided us with so many wonderful stories.

0:58:000:58:04

She said, "Shall we go, girls?" and off we went.

0:58:060:58:10

She'll know now why the cotton

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was round the handle!

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My sister is by my side and we are both going to say good night to you.

0:58:160:58:22

-Come on, Margaret.

-Good night, children.

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Good night and good luck to you all.

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From the whole team on The Antiques Roadshow

0:58:280:58:32

and this special Diamond Jubilee celebration,

0:58:320:58:35

until next time, bye-bye.

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