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You'd never guess it from these surroundings, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
but our location is a ten-minute drive from the centre of Wolverhampton. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
At first glance it looks Tudor but, in fact, it's a Victorian house | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
designed deliberately to look like a medieval manor house. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
And there are more surprises inside. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from Wightwick Manor. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
BELL CHIMES | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
BIRD TWEETING | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
We think of stately homes as belonging to the landed gentry - | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
well, not this one. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
This was built in 1887 by Theodore Mander, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
the owner of a thriving Wolverhampton paint and varnish business. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
But he wasn't your typical self-satisfied, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
self-made Dickensian factory owner, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
he was a loving father, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
a man who cared deeply about the welfare of his workers | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
and about the finer things in life - | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
like poetry, literature and the arts. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
When Oscar Wilde visited Wolverhampton, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
as part of his world tour, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:38 | |
he was talking about the virtues of "The House Beautiful" - | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
part of his mission to teach the middle classes about good taste. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Now, Theodore was listening to that lecture | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
and returned home inspired, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
determined to implement Wilde's ideas. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
So, with his beloved wife Flora by his side, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
he set about creating the perfect family home | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
in the best possible taste. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
Fabrics and furnishings by William Morris, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
tiles by William De Morgan | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
and stained glass by one of the foremost Victorian makers, Charles Kemp. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
It's full of the most exquisite work from the Arts and Crafts movement... | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
..but being an industrialist, he also embraced new technology | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
and insisted on having all the latest mod cons installed, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
like central heating and electricity. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
In 1900, tragedy struck. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
Aged just 47 and shortly after becoming mayor of Wolverhampton, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
Theodore Mander became seriously ill. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
And at a time where there was only a rudimentary understanding of infection, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
many Victorians opted to be operated on in their own homes | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
and Theodore Mander was operated on for an abscess of the liver | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
on this kitchen table. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Sadly, he didn't survive. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
But luckily for us, Theodore Mander's house remains. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
Now looked after by the National Trust, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
Wightwick Manor is a shining example of Victorian taste | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
and the perfect place for our experts to meet the residents of Wolverhampton. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
'Gold, sapphires, diamonds - blazing in the sun, here.' | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
A history from holy Russia, how does it come to Wightwick Manor? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
It belongs to my dad's family, who was Czech, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
and, well, it's got a nice little story behind it. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
It was given to my great-great-grandad, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
who was a gamekeeper in Moravia at the time. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:45 | |
And, at the turn-of-the-century, a descendant of the Tsar's family, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
Nikolas Nikolayevich Romanov, came into the area | 0:03:51 | 0:03:57 | |
and my great-great-grandad organised a big hunt for him. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
And, to show his appreciation, he gave my great-great-granddad this. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
Isn't that marvellous? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
Well, in a funny way, we have to take ourselves back | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
to what was a feudal dynasty in a country that was so enormous | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
that when the sun was coming up on one side, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
it was going down on the other. And it was presided over | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
by a dynasty called the Romanovs, who had an incalculable fortune | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
and, of course, it led to the Russian Revolution. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
And these imperial gifts were not unusual in THEIR lives, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
they gave them here, there and everywhere. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
When the Tsar of Russia came to Sandringham, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
he gave the man at Wolferton station, who opened the train door, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
a stick pin such as this. But it doesn't diminish it in any way. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
This is a jewel and your ancestor would have worn it with great pride, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
a huge distinction, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
because these people had a, sort of, almost godlike hold over Russia | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
and Nikolay Nikolayevich was actually the grandson of Nicholas I of Russia. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
So, his dissent was absolutely perfect | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
and this would be one part of a gift. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
And, I had a little look at it earlier, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
and I wanted to attribute this | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
to the greatest of all the court jewellers, Faberge, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
but, unfortunately, I can't. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
I think the fitted case is untypical of Faberge | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
but it's certainly made by one of his prime competitors, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
perhaps Bolin, Khlebnikov, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
and its magic is all the same, without a shadow of doubt. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
After the Revolution the White Russians had no Tsar, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
their Tsar had been murdered | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
and a large proportion of the family had been murdered. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
And so they had to elect somebody who had survived the Revolution | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
and Nikolay Nikolayevich was actually accepted as the last Tsar of Russia, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
even though the Romanov dynasty had passed. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
So, you do, in a sense, have, by default, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
a stick pin from the Tsar of Russia, which is very exciting stuff indeed. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
-That's a good thing to know, isn't it? -It is. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
But, anyway, here we see it, cabochon sapphires, very soft cut, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
pure gold colour and diamonds with this strange, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
almost like a portcullis, design below. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
But, of course, this is his conjoined initials in Cyrillic. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
The two ends, which are like "HH" conjoined together - | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
for Nikolai Nikolayevich. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
And so it's a stunning souvenir of an imperial dynasty | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
that ended in catastrophe for the Romanovs | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
-and so it's powerful stuff, isn't it? -It is, yes. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
And how are we going to measure that power, do you think? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
-It's hard. -I've no idea. I honestly didn't even think it was much at all. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
No, well, I think it's much! I think it really is much! | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
I think it's worth... £4,500-5,000. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
-Wow. -Oh, my God. -Fantastic. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
Brilliant. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
-I'm shocked. -It's been sent over from France for today | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
so I think the relatives in France are going to be very happy as well. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
-Well, maybe you'll say it never arrived! -THEY ALL LAUGH | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
Well, this plate has really got me scratching my head. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
-It's a fascinating thing. It's Dutch Delft. -Really?! | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
Now, that's news to me because someone said it was English, so... | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
It's definitely Dutch, it's Delft, in other words, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
it's a tin glazed earthenware. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
-It's got a white glaze on it, so it looks blue-and-white. -Yes. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
And it's painted in a really wonderful and spirited way | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
with a naval engagement, a battle scene. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
What do you know about it? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
It belonged to my godmother and she actually, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
sort of, had a birthday cake for my father's 80th birthday, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
which she presented it on the plate | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
-and after we'd eaten the cake she gave me the plate. -How sweet. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
So, that's how we got it, actually. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
Well, let's have a closer look at that painting. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
I mean, the detail is incredible. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
I've noticed in the foreground, in front of the battle scene, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
what appears to be a little whaling boat, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
because the figures on the boat have harpooned a very unfortunate | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
whale here and the whale is spouting water at the top there. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
A whaling scene in front of a great battle?! | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
And all these funny little figures around the outside. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
The scene itself reminds me of the famous Dutch artist Van De Velde. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
-Yes, I've heard of him. -The Battle of Solebay, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
which took place off the coast of Southwold in 1672. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
But they didn't have whales in there. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
Well, the thing was, the Battle of Solebay was | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
part of a war between the Dutch and the English, essentially over trade. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
So I think perhaps this isn't a fine work of art, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
it's actually a humble piece of painted pottery, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
so we can't take it too literally. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
But actually what you've got is a battle and you've got, I think, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
a bit of symbolism in the whaling because it's a battle over trade. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
-It's a battle over the fruits of the sea. -I never thought of that. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
It's giving us a message here. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
The things that supply what we have in the border | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
because in the border, we have a very handsome well-dressed | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
gentleman, dressed in the fashions of the late 17th century. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
I think that's when this plate was made. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
And we've got a lady at the bottom who may have some relation to him. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
He certainly seems to be giving her a look downwards and | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
when you look closely, perhaps you can see why he's giving her a look! | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
-Yes, I can! -So, you know, this is the pleasures of the flesh, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
the pleasures of leisure. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
You have two figures from the Commedia dell'arte, the Italian | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
comedy series, so this might be representing the arts, so it's | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
a fascinating and extraordinarily rare late 17th century plate. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:31 | |
I think a realistic saleroom estimate for this dish is | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
going to be in the region of 3-5,000. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
Good gosh! | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Woo! That's... That's a bit shaky! | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
Thank you very much anyway. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
Who's this handsome guy with the Queen in the photograph here? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
That's my late husband. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
He was the Queen's personal footman from 1954 until 1962. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:04 | |
-A good long stint. -Yes. -And in this photograph, who is he with? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
That's Peter with one of his friends, who is Ernie Bennett, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
known to the family as Benny. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
-He was the Page of the Backstairs. -Right. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
And what are we looking at here? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
Well, these are things that came via Benny and also Bobo MacDonald, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:25 | |
the Queen's dresser. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
The plates, I'm led to believe, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
were given by the King of Denmark to the Queen. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
And she passed them on to her dresser, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
who then passed them on to Benny, who then, because they've got | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
little men on them and I had three little boys, passed them on to me. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
And I used them and I've broken some, but I do still have this one. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
-What about this? -Well, again, more or less the same route. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
-These are Prince Charles' rompers, which were passed to me. -Wonderful. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:59 | |
For my three sons, but I put my sons in them | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
and they looked a bit ridiculous! | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
So I just kept them. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
These are so typical of the '50s and late '40s with the smocking. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:15 | |
-They're very difficult things to value. -I'm sure. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
The royal connection has been proved through the way it | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
arrived in your hands. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
I'm sure it's one or two hundred pounds of someone's money | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
-to buy such a thing. -I won't part with them. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
Now, you say this plate was a gift from... | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
I'm led to believe it was a gift from the Danish royal family | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
to Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
to give to Princess Elizabeth when she was a little girl because the | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
other plates that go with it have all got the little goblins on them. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
-They're all hand-painted. -They're very worried by that smiling boot. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
-They are. -And of course, on the back, it's got the name of Larsen, | 0:11:54 | 0:12:01 | |
who would have painted the scenes. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
The three wave marks of the Royal Copenhagen factory. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
Collectors go for Copenhagen. They like things made for children. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
And they often pay more for childhood memories than | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
they would for a grown-up service painted with flowers. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
-Yes. -Because of that, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
I think you're looking at £3-400 for this single dish. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
Gosh! That's amazing! But I don't intend to part with them. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
I hope my children will treasure them as much as I have. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
-Cos it's a link to their father. -I'm delighted to hear you say that. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
When a jewellery box comes to my table and it has initials on the | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
front, it's usually because there's something very special inside. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
And I wasn't wrong. But who are the initials? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Adame Holland, who is the lady in the photograph, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
who was my mum's great-great-grandmother. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
I'm now going to open the box to reveal this beautiful bracelet. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
Absolutely stunning. So tell me, what is the story behind this? | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
Basically, all that was passed down the family was that she had | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
-a lover at one point, who decided to take her to Paris. -As lovers do! | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
-Exactly! And it was made especially for her. -Was it? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
-But that's all I know. -How romantic is that! | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
It is just really, really quite fabulous. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
This dates from about 1890. When did she go to Paris? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
-We don't know at all. -So possibly during this time. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
Well, this is sort of inspired by sort of 18th century designs, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
the French designs of that period. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
But it is just absolutely gorgeous, the way that you've got this | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
basket overflowing with these beautiful flowers and butterflies, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
-fuchsias, forget-me-nots... It really is a lover's basket. -Yes. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:57 | |
-But I love this detail at the back. Has it been worn and loved? -It has. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:03 | |
It's worn infrequently by my mum, she does like to wear it. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
You've kept it very, very well. I'm going to open the clasp here | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
because on the clasp is the tell-tale signs of the French | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
eagle's head, made in France and in Paris. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
But what I love about this and in fact, because I love | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
quality of craftsmanship and that's what this bracelet oozes, is that | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
when you actually fit it together, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
I want you to listen to the sound of the clasp. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
-Yes. -Solid as a rock. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
In fact, you don't need this safety chain cos it's not going to | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
go anywhere. And that sound, after 1890, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
to still have that quality of clasp which so many people | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
and so many jewellers forget, that clasps are so important, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
I just think it's absolutely fabulous. Um...the price... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
Well, because of the craftsmanship, because it's so stunning and because | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
it's in such good condition, I would say it would be in excess of £2,500. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
Oh, wow! That's great. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
-So continue wearing it and loving it. -Definitely. Thank you. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
At first glance, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
the objects on this table look like slightly peculiar bedfellows. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Can you tell me how they're connected and connected to you? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
Right, they're connected because in the 1970s, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
my mother went to a house sale and of all the items that were there, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
-my mother bought these three items. -Wonderful. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
And over the years, my mother's often asked the children, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
the grandchildren, if they'd like anything | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
and I plumped for these two vases. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
When my sister, who chose this item, knew I was coming today, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:52 | |
she says, "Well, take the blue lady for me because I know nothing about it." | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
I've got to ask the question, what made you pick these? | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
Well, I think it was the paintings more than anything. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
Well, they are lovely. And, you know, they are attractive, they're very well painted. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
Sadly, though, they are so heavily damaged. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
I mean, they are restored from top to bottom. Bits of them missing. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
In essence what they once were, were French porcelain, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
19th century, more than likely Paris. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
But sadly now, they are sort of beyond the pale. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
I have to say, I'd be with your sister because the thing that really draws me on the table | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
is the butterfly girl. As your sister calls her, the blue lady. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
Partly because, while these are spectacular if very damaged, she's special. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:39 | |
She's actually designed by a gentleman called Josef Lorenzl. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
And if we just spin her round, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
there's a little signature just at the back there. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
And she was made between 1930, '32 and 1935, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:54 | |
at the factory of Goldscheider in Vienna in Austria, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
who at the time were really one of the best makers of art deco figurines that there were. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:04 | |
They attracted the greatest names to come and work for them, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
including Josef Lorenzl. I love her. She epitomises that period. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
The little sort of coquettish pose, slightly showing her legs, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
a little bit risque, the butterfly wings skirt. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
I sort of understand why your sister went there and made that choice. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
These are probably only going to fetch at best £100, if you're lucky. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
And that's for the quality and the decorative value of the panels. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
So you've come away with £100. Your sister, however, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
has come away with somewhere more in the region of 2000-2,500. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
-She chose well, my sister! -She chose well. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
But then at the end of the day, your mum did a pretty good job in the first place. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
-Yeah, she always had a good eye. -They're beautiful things. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
-£2,500? -£2,000-2,500. -Flipping heck. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Coming up through Stourbridge today, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
I reflected on, here I am driving through what was | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
the centre of the British glass universe for 150 years. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
And just seeing it gone, which is so sad. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
I knew that I'd get some spectacular piece of Stourbridge come in. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
And you've done it. So tell me about your connection with this? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
Well really, that, with ourselves, it was in payment of a bad debt. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:27 | |
-OK. What was the value of the debt? -I think it was £400, if I remember. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
-And how long ago? -About '88, '89. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
OK, this is from 1981, it's the marriage of Charles and Di. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
And it's made by Stewart. It's signed on the bottom. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
And, for me, it epitomises what happened in Stourbridge. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
I mean, this is a fabulous piece of glass-making. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Its quality is absolutely out of this world. All hand cut. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:55 | |
Everything on here, it was made by hand, it was cut by hand, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
by holding this against abrasive wheels, repeatedly. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
And it's hand polished too, all through the process. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
Enormously complex, high-end skills. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
And you got quite a bargain relative to its value. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
When this was made, I think these were going for about £500 to £600. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
And today, if you put this into auction, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
do you know how fashionable cut crystal is? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
I'll tell you, on a scale of things people do not want, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
it starts with rabies, then the Black Death, and then cut crystal! | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
So you wouldn't get 50 quid for it today. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
And yet you look at this fabulous, fabulous thing, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
what a shame. And there it is, ruins and blocks of flats now. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
-Gone. -It's all gone. -What a shame. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
-It is still a nice piece, though. -It's a lovely piece of glass. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
I haven't chosen it because I don't like it. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
We see a huge variety of bronzes here at the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
And today's Basic, Better, Best challenge is going to see if, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
after all these years, we know what we're talking about. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
We've got three bronzes, brought along by our specialist, Paul Viney. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
The basic one is worth £50. The better, £500, and the best, £5,000. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:16 | |
I don't know which is which, but why don't you mull it over at home | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
and in the meantime I'll ask our visitors what they think. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
-So off we go. -Hi, Fiona. -Hi. -Nice meeting you. -Nice meeting you. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
Three bronze statues here. So which do you think is which? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:38 | |
-Is there a prize afterwards as well? -There's no prize | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
and you certainly don't get to take one of them home! | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
The little girl with the muff is the best. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
-Is that just cos you like her the best? -Well, really, yes, cos I don't know much about it! | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
I think this is a fine figure of a man | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
and I think that's a nice one as well. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
And why do you think this is the best? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
It's bigger and the material looks more golder. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
I've not much to go on there. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
I think that one is £50. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
-Now why do you relegate this charming little figure? -She looks rather sad. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
She's looking really sad! | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
Now, I trained as a carpenter, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:25 | |
so when I see a miniature piece of furniture, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
it sets my pulse racing because | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
the quality is excellent. What do you know about it? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
All that I really know is that was made by my mum's cousin | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
in the 1920s in the Histon area of Cambridge. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
And that's all that I really do know. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:40 | |
And then he moved on from there to be cabinet-maker and woodworker | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
up at Durham Cathedral. I know nothing more than that, really. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
This is an apprentice piece. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
So you would make this to really show your skill as a woodworker | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
and a joiner and as a carpenter. Everything is exact. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
The rails, the platform, and this lovely turned banister column, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
showing that he could actually turn as well as doing moulding. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
And so he made this as an apprentice | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
to then get his job at Durham Cathedral. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
He was obviously desperate to get the job | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
because when you look at the quality of it, in lovely figured mahogany, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
I mean, it's all exactly as a breakfast table should be. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
And did he have a long career as a carpenter? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
I've been told by the family that he was killed during the war, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
while he was working up in the northeastern area. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
So, again, I know very, very little about him. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
That's such a shame because anything you can put to this table, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
the provenance, a photograph, all adds to it, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
because it builds a story. If someone was an apprentice, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
they then got a job working as a carpenter at Durham Cathedral, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
and then they were killed in the war, although it's a sad story, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
it does really put it in more of a package of historical interest. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
And the great thing is that this will be worth as much as a full-size breakfast table, | 0:22:55 | 0:23:01 | |
-because I would put this at £400 to £600. -You would? Oh! | 0:23:01 | 0:23:07 | |
Wonderful. Thank you for that, sir. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
A good portrait painter often gives us, the viewer, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
a window into the personality and lifestyle of the sitter. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
And in this particular picture, you get a great sense of status. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
I'd love to know a little bit more about him. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
This is a portrait of my father, John Kirby, known as Jack Kirby. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
He was assistant director of a very famous museum and art gallery | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
in Baltimore called the Walters Art Gallery, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
and he patronised Earl Hofmann, who did this picture. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-Earl Hofmann, the portraitist? -Yes. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
A very famous Baltimore, USA painter. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
So the house is in Baltimore? | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
The house you can see in the portrait is actually where I was born. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
It's actually in a village called Lutherville, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
which is a historic village in Maryland, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
the state that Baltimore's in. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
And it came with me when I moved to Britain when I was 11 and I've had it ever since. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
Of course, Earl Hofmann was quite a respected portraitist in Baltimore. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Can you tell me a little bit more about him? | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Well, my very best friend, Jack, was his son. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
So Earl was someone who I just saw all the time, I saw his studio, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
I saw him painting. He and his wife, Jean, and the other children | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
always were there, so I didn't think of him being someone famous, he was just Earl. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
You know, my best friend's dad. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
But I do think you can see from this, the quality of the artist. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
He was one of the great realist painters from Baltimore. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
In fact, he won an award which was judged by Hopper, Edward Hopper, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
the great, well-known American painter, so he was quite well recognised. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
I did not know that. That's amazing to think that this is my dad | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
-and he's painted my dad and he was in that sort of league. How wonderful. -Very wonderful. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
Of course, immediately you look at this picture, you think, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
it's not British, just the way he's dressed. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
He looks quite American with his slicked-back hair, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
the way his collar and tie are pinned, his jacket, his waistcoat. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
He looks quite American, doesn't he? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
I think that's very interesting you actually said that | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
because I think he was trying to be European in this. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
-He was very much a European in his taste and discriminations. -Was he? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
Very much so. I think in some ways this is his interpretation | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
of how an English gentleman should look, or at least a European. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
He was very much like that. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
It's a very grandeur portrait with a wonderful large chair. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
He takes up most of the canvas. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
So what's the future plan for this portrait? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Well, it will stay with me until I'm off this earth and then afterwards, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
I think I will donate it to the Walters Art Gallery. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
I think it would be fitting to do so. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
And if not, I know the family in the States would be very pleased to have it back. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
-I've got to do the horrible commercial thing now. -You know, I'm not really bothered | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
but please tell me. I'm sure the viewers would find it interesting. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
I think if you were able to go down the commercial route | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
and sell it to them, I think you could certainly ask a figure close to £5,000. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
Really? So much? That's very interesting. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
Thank you very much for telling me that but it's priceless to me. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Remember our Basic, Better, Best challenge I was telling you about earlier? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Three bronzes, one worth £50. That's the basic. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
The better one worth £500 and the best worth £5,000. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:19 | |
Now, Paul Viner, you are our specialist in this area. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
I've been asking our visitors what they think and no-one could really agree. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
What should we be looking for when it comes to bronzes? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
Well, Fiona, the first thing to decide is whether it's bronze or not. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Bronze is basically a copper alloy and it's heavy, hard-wearing, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
and over the years develops a nice patina. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
However, there is a zinc alloy which is used as an imitation bronze, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
normally called spelta, and that is much lighter, more fragile, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
and doesn't have the quality and depth of casting of a bronze. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
So that's a good starting point. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
Also, see whether the bronze is signed and dated, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
and whether it is in good condition or not. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
I, in the end, I actually did lift this up, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
which I didn't let any of our visitors do, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
and I realised it was lighter, so I put this as the basic. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
I assume that's right. But then I couldn't decide between these two, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
because that's so beautiful and it's signed and dated, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
-but then this is of Gordon of Khartoum, is it? -Correct. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
So I thought, well, he's an important figure, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
it's beautifully intricate, beautifully moulded, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
so I put that as best. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
-But where do we begin? -All right. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
Let's begin with the largest figure of a fisherwoman, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
and this is spelta. Absolutely correct. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
It was made in about 1880 and during that period, 1880s to 1920s, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
there was an enormous desire for spelta figures from people | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
who could not afford bronzes. They got spelta as a substitute. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
On a first glance, you can't necessarily tell the difference. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
No, you can't. But it's not particularly well cast. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
The detail of her basket and her net are not particularly good. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
And if you look at her nose, you can see there's a little white dot | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
at the front, where the zinc is coming through | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
so that's an indication, and again, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
as you say, she's much lighter than the other two. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
-So she's the basic? Just £50? -Yes. -So which was the better one? | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
-The better one was Louise. -Oh, I've got it right! She's so charming. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:19 | |
Isn't she delightful? | 0:28:19 | 0:28:20 | |
I was thinking she would be so commercial, so marketable. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Well, she is because she's a charming girl, as you say, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
it's in the winter, she's got her hands in her muff. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
We know her name is Louise because it's signed on the base. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
It also has the signature of the artist, "Ferd Frick", | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
Ferdinand Frick, he was an Austrian artist, not particularly well-known. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
Dated 1905. So this is a charming bronze by a recorded artist | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
but not a particularly well-known one. £500 at auction. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
So, Gordon of Khartoum, and is it because he is Gordon of Khartoum | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
that this is the best and therefore worth £5,000 or so? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
Yes, basically it has everything going for it. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
It's Gordon in a very contemplative mood. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
He's carrying a Bible in his hand because he was a very religious man. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
Under his left-arm he's got a swagger stick which was known | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
to his troops as his magic wand, because he always | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
went into battle holding it and he was never injured in battle. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
And when Gordon was at the siege of Khartoum, he held out for a year | 0:29:16 | 0:29:22 | |
and then finally the British Government very reluctantly | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
sent troops out to relieve him | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
and the Mahdi massacred Gordon and his troops | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
two days before the British relief force arrived. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
In Victorian England, when the news got back a couple of weeks later, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
there was a huge outpouring of grief. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
And a famous sculptor called Sir William Hayworth Thorneycroft | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
was commissioned to do a larger-than-life-size bronze, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
which is this model, and you can see it on the Victoria Embankment to this day. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
-It's about 8 foot high. -Gosh, so this is the maquette for that bronze? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
This is the maquette. And it's signed by Thorneycroft, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
it's dated. So from that point of view, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
highly sought after by collectors. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
-That is the £5,000 piece. -Well, there you have it. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
If you are lucky enough to have bronzes at home, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
this gives you some idea of what to look for. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Or have a look at our website if you want to see any tips on there: | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
I overheard some conversation as you approached me in the queue | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
to say that you've actually come quite a long way to be here today. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
We came all the way from Oman, the Sultanate of Oman. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
I work there, actually, and I watch your programme. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
He watches the show weekly, daily sometimes, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
even episodes he's seen already. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
And it was his birthday in July and before we flew to England, I said, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
"Dad, I've got a surprise for you. Come over here." | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
And I printed a nice letter with nice handwriting. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
It said, "You are cordially invited to come and visit the Antiques Roadshow." | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
-And here you are! -Absolutely. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
And I have seen that you've got a couple of watches. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
-Do you have lots of watches at home? -I do, actually. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
I've been collecting pocket watches for the last two years. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
These are some of the ones I collect that I have at present, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
and I would like to know a little bit more about them, actually. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
OK, well, the lovely thing here on this box | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I can see in beautiful gold tooling, International Watch Co. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
And IWC is a very, very fine factory. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
It's one of those extraordinary things, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
an American by the name of FA Jones came over from the States | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
in the 1860s, I think 1869, with a partner, a man called Kidder, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:31 | |
and between the two of them they produced only about 5,000 watches. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
And in 1875, he went bankrupt. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:41 | |
And then the Swiss took it over. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
And this is a typically 1930s dress watch. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Beautiful gold dial with raised gold numerals, fully signed, of course. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
Lovely machine-turned back. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
14 carat gold, as a lot of their things were. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
And then we've got that superb movement, fully signed - "IWC". | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
And then just looking in there, there's their little trademark, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
which says "Probus". | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
And that is as right as you could require. It's lovely. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
-Is this one of your star pieces? -Actually, I do like this one, yes. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
-Good. -It's a very nice size. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
I have to say, I rather like that as well but let's look at this one. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
Wow. I mean, there we have another beautiful case, Ulysse Nardin, and... | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
I just bought this recently | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
so I'm more interested to know little bit more about it. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Well, that's quite intriguing. Because in Dutch, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
it's got "25 years, Philips", | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
of course the company, and the presentation, "1944". | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
So a lovely dress watch. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
Also in 14 carat gold, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
and also an absolutely top of the range movement by Ulysse Nardin. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
-Do you see that little piece there? -Oh, yes. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
This should reveal a little secret because that should pop down. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
There we go, and in there, in that little pouch behind, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
-there is the certificate. -Brilliant, brilliant! | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
That with the original box is a lovely thing to have. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
That's beautiful. Thank you. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
-So you've come all the way over. -I know, it's amazing! | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
-I'm really pleased to be able to show you that. -I am pleased indeed. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
-It's really nice. -It is lovely. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
So, it would be almost rude to discuss price | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
because they're your pride and joy. I think with this box, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
the certificate and that lovely condition Ulysse Nardin watch, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
at auction we'd be looking at at least £1,000. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
And the IWC, which I love very much, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
-great name, and we could be running up towards £2,000 at auction. -Sure. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
The two together at auction | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
would certainly fetch between £3,000 and £4,000. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
Very good. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:57 | |
This is an ordinary looking chest of drawers at first glance, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
until you look down here at the handles. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
Now that is an Earl's Coronet. I want there to be a story. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
-Is there a story? -The family folklore is that it was commissioned | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
by Admiral Lord Howe for one of his daughters, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
whether it was for her wedding or coming out or whatever, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
I don't know. But we've been able to trace our family tree | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
through my father back to the Howe family. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
So this is Earl Howe, First Sea Lord or whatever. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
He's the man famous for the Glorious First of June. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
So he was the one who won that battle. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
And Nelson referred to him as, don't quote me on this, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:49 | |
England's finest tactician. He was a brilliant naval commander. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
-And I think he was known as Black Dick Howe. -Was he? | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
He had a scowl on his face all the time. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
-This is O-Level history - I'm going back to the 1960s. -Right. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
He always had a scowl, he was rather scruffy for an admiral. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
One imagines they're always immaculate on the quarterdeck, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
with the white lapels and everything and white breeches, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
but he was fairly scruffy and always scowled, until he went into battle. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
And then he smiled, which I think is the last thing I would do! | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
Smile when I went into battle! | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
So I think this dates to the 1780s. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
It's a typical piece of Hepplewhite furniture. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
Beautiful mahogany. The handles appear to be completely original, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
so it might have been made for certainly an Earl's family. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
This is an incredibly rare thing. To have something that goes back, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
in furniture, that's not named, without a bill, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
that can go back possibly to the original family | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
is almost unheard of in over 40 years of my experience of furniture. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
-It's extraordinary. -Gosh. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:46 | |
So that makes it difficult to value, actually, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
because if it was an ordinary chest of drawers, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
without the handles, without this potential provenance, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
£1,500, £2,000, something like that. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
But we don't have slide rules, we don't have a calculator, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
there's no chart I can go to to add in provenance. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
-But if I said £5,000 or £6,000? -Gosh, that's amazing. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
-And that's the difference. -Gosh, that's incredible. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
Well, it's not leaving the family, I can assure you. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
Now it's a very rare and unexpected treat on a Roadshow | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
to meet a great hero of mine. Ted Dexter, it's a great, great pleasure. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
-Nice to meet you too, I watch you often. -Now we could spend the next two days talking about cricket, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
but it wouldn't go down very well with my masters, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
but what we've come to talk about | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
is a different story altogether, isn't it? It's about your father. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
I thought I'd like to share | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
this rather extraordinary story of my dad. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
He joined up in 1914 | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
and survived through to 1918. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
Survived the Somme and was actually the only serving officer | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
who joined up at the beginning who survived to the end, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
-so I'm pretty lucky to be here. -You're very lucky to be here, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
because obviously the attrition rates amongst officers, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
everybody knows it was historic in the First World War. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
And we've got here the diary. He was an artillery man, wasn't he? | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
"The Diary of 'B' Battery, Royal Field Artillery, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
"the 84th Army Brigade, '14-18." | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
And if we turn to 'Retrospect', | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
there's a very short list there of people who served right through. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
"Gathered in Colchester in 1914, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
"still serving on November 11th, 1918." | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
That's the total list, and he's the only officer. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
-It is extraordinary, isn't it? -It certainly is. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
You mentioned the Somme and I think I've picked out that particular day, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
the 1st July, the greatest day of the British Army, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
the greatest disaster of the British Army. 20,000 dead, 60,000 casualties. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:59 | |
But a battle that changed the nature of the First World War. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
And, of course, as an artillery man, what was he doing 6:25 to 7:30? | 0:38:03 | 0:38:09 | |
Bombarding the German lines. And the bombardment, in fact, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
had gone on for seven days solidly before that. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
And when the guns stopped, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
the British soldiers rose from the trenches | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
and assumed that all the Germans would have been killed by the artillery barrage. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
They weren't, they were down in deep trenches, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
and there was five minutes between the ending of the artillery branch, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
the soldiers going forward, and during that time the Germans came up, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
mounted their machine guns and mayhem and slaughter followed. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
And anybody who came through that was extraordinarily lucky. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
He came through, he'd already done two years, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
and then he went on to do two years more. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
He never, ever talked about it. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
I'm not surprised. That's the normal thing. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Almost to the day he died. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
-Just before he died he talked to me a bit about it. -What did he say? | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
-Mostly about the horses. -Yes. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
He loved the horses, and remembered all their names. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
And as an artillery man, that's what he would have been involved in. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
Now I can see we've got a metal box there. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
I think that's a box that should contain the Military Cross, an MC. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
Do you know when that was or when it happened? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
I don't know the exact, I think somewhere in here gives the date, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
I know what happened. I mean, if you're in the artillery, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
you have to have forward spotters to tell you where your shot is landing. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
And the communications broke down and apparently he went forward | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
and renewed the communication and, you know, almost a death sentence, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:40 | |
-but he managed to get back. -So this is an MC. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
-But sadly... -Except it isn't. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
It was stolen and who knows, because it has his name on it, RM Dexter. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:53 | |
Somebody watching might think, hello, I think I've got that. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
Well, I hope they are because then they can put it back in the box | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
with the family who should have it. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
-It's a tragedy that it's gone. -In a way, it's almost more poignant... | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
Seeing the empty box, yes. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
So he had an extraordinary story. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
As you say, without these details, you wouldn't be here. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
And then I wouldn't have had all the pleasure you've given me. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
Thank you very much, and as I say, for fulfilling a childhood dream. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
-It's lovely to share this with a few other people. -Yes, thank you. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
What do you think this object actually is? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
Well, I was assuming it was a plate of some sort. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
-A plate? Right. Plates aren't normally oval. -Right, no. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
It's actually a porcelain plaque | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
painted with this wonderful landscape. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
A plaque is just a large piece of flat porcelain | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
and you can see how well it's painted. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
There is incredible detail there. There's a flock of sheep | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
and there's a wonderful, misty landscape with hills in the distance. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
-It's really quite impressionistic, isn't it? -It is, actually. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
I've never really looked at it before. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
So what can you tell me about it? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
It's hung on my mum's wall for the last, say about 60 years | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
and we've never really taken much attention to it. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
-Have you any idea who made it? -Only from looking at the back. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
So you've looked at the back? Let's have a look on the back. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
And there's a few smart bets. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
It's actually the mark of the Royal Worcester factory. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
Those little dots there represent the date codes. That's 1912. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
Oh, right. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
We turn it back... | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
Noticed anything else about it? | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
I've noticed a signature, that's about it. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
There is a signature just there, isn't there? Know what it says? | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
I thought it was M Davis, but apparently it's H. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
-Harry Davis. -Harry, OK. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
And Harry Davis was without a doubt | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
the greatest artist at the Royal Worcester factory. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
-This plaque is a testament to his skill and creativity. -Interesting. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:56 | |
-In my opinion, he's unsurpassed. -Really? -It's pretty good, isn't it? | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
-That sounds fantastic. -Have you ever given any thought to the value of it? | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
No, as I say, it's been hung on the wall. It's only come down since my mum, she's gone into care | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
so we've taken all the stuff out of her house. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
So it's just a bit of stuff that's been hanging around. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
Houses are full of stuff that's hanging around and no-one knows quite what to do with, yes? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
Just ignored it, yes. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Well, there are lots of Royal Worcester collectors | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
and I'm glad to say they've got taste. Because like me, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
they realise that Harry Davis is the greatest artist there was. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
And I think that this plaque would sell at auction | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
for between £6,000 and £8,000. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
Really? | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
Really? Well, somebody said it might be worth £800. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:51 | |
£800? | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
-Rubbish! Much more than that. It's a work of art on porcelain. -Really? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:58 | |
-Well, this looks like silk, it feels like silk. -It is silk. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
Where did it come from? | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
Well, during the war, my mother lived in a cottage | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
near to Tamworth in Arden, and one day this aeroplane came over | 0:43:08 | 0:43:13 | |
and crashed in the field just beyond the cottage. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
And then we saw, well, she saw, a parachutist come out | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
and land in the field. So she shouted to everybody, you know, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
"Come and see what's going on in the field", | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
so they picked up pitchforks, brooms, a pair of scissors, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
and then they chased through the field | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
and he thought they were going to kill him. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
But no, they didn't want to kill him, they wanted the parachute | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
to make some knickers and underwear, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
-and they'd got the scissors ready to cut up the pieces. -And they did? | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
-Yeah. -They actually managed to cut it up into bits | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
-and they all grabbed these pieces? -They all had a piece. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
But my mother was very upset because she had the piece | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
with all the information on it, which now is very relevant, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
but, I mean, she did have enough for a pair of knickers anyway. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
I'm sure she did, but I don't think there would have been any harm | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
if she'd made her underwear, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:03 | |
her knickers out of this piece, with that on. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
It wouldn't have mattered, really! This is very interesting. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
Because it tells us such a lot about where it was made | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
and when it was made. It's a German parachute, of course. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:16 | |
Fallschirm, now that is German for parachute. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
And underneath that, it says the date - "16th August, 1940". | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
So we know when this parachute was actually made. 16th August, 1940. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:30 | |
Lots of little stamps under there. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
These are inspection stamps, because you know his life, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
that pilot's life depended on this parachute working properly. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
So it had to be inspected to make sure it was perfect. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
Now, I don't know what a pair of silk knickers would have been worth in 1940. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
-I don't know but it's lovely material! -Haha! | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
But, I tell you, this is, I mean, it's only a part of a parachute. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
A complete parachute today would be worth a fair amount of money. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
This is only a little, tiny part of it. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
It still has a value, but not that great, perhaps £50, £60. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
But it's not the money that's interesting, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
it's your mother's knickers. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:07 | |
Yes. And they all had silk knickers in the village! | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
# We're going to hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line. # | 0:45:12 | 0:45:17 | |
It's worth between £2,000 and £2,500. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
This was used for fighting. It's designed for slashing. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
My goodness, you wouldn't want to get in the way of that. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:31 | |
What if my husband hadn't have chipped it? | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
-He's cost you £1,000. -He owes me, yes. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
He owes you £1,000. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:36 | |
Where's my money?! | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
# We're gonna hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
# If that Siegfried Line's still there. # | 0:45:44 | 0:45:50 | |
Two or three years ago, the "Fiona Moment" on the Roadshow | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
was "Most Seen, Most Wanted". | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
And that concerned us as specialists, | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
describing the piece that we'd most like to see brought into the show | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
in our wildest dreams. And this is the nearest it's ever got. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:10 | |
Wow. It's wow. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
That's what I thought when I saw it. Wow. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
So, come on, spill the beans. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
I've had that for about 10 years. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
And you found it under a gooseberry bush? | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
I just found it in a cheap little shop for two quid. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
Two quid. Let me tell you what it is. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
It's an English, lidded goblet | 0:46:36 | 0:46:41 | |
from circa 1730 to 1750. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
Now, Ravenscroft is 1670, so this is later. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
But what it does is it continues a theme. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
Venetian glass dominated Europe for hundreds of years. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
And we just see the last influence of the foreign | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
in this very English piece. London was the great centre | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
of British glass-making at this time, largely because the money was there. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
If you were the Duke of Northumberland or the Duke of Bedford | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
or whatever, you came into London to do your shopping. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
You as Mr Posh, Lord Posh, would have been buying objects like this | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
to adorn your life. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
We know it's English. It can be nothing else because... | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
GLASS TINGS ..rings like a bell. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
There is no doubt what this is at all. And it's an absolute blinder. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:30 | |
These are nipped diamonds. They've double-dipped the glass, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
and then they would nip these together to form diamonds. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
They are nipped diamonds, is the decorative form. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
If this was a stopper, you'd date your decanter at 1735, | 0:47:40 | 0:47:45 | |
and so your £2, I'm absolutely delighted to tell you, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:52 | |
is a £5,000 object. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
CROWD GASPS, AMAZED LAUGHTER | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
Retail - £5,000. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
-WOMAN: -Wow. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:02 | |
Now that's shut you up, didn't it?! | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
-LAUGHTER -Yes, Andy, it has. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
It's a peach, and that's brilliant. Thanks for bringing it in. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
Made my day. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:11 | |
What a great find for Andy McConnell. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
But that's not been the biggest surprise of the day. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
At last, the sun has shone on us after weeks | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
and weeks of torrential rain. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
I have to say, it has made everything so much nicer. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
So from the whole of the Roadshow team, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
and the glorious Wightwick Manor, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
until next time, bye-bye. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 |