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We've all heard of Dracula, but did you know

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he was based on one of Britain's greatest Romantic poets?

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The blood-thirsty Count was originally a character

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in a book written by the physician to Lord Byron.

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They clearly didn't get on very well, because the physician

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chose to immortalise his patient as the fanged fiend.

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Welcome to Dracula's home, Newstead Abbey, in Nottinghamshire.

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We think of the cult of celebrity as a modern invention,

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but here at Newstead Abbey is the equivalent

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of a 200-year-old scrapbook plastered with celebrities,

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that once belonged to the great Romantic poet Lord Byron,

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who back then was the biggest celebrity of them all.

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Nowadays, images of famous footballers or pop stars

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are stuck on bedroom walls, collected in sticker books,

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or plastered all over the internet.

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But back in the early 19th century,

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Byron had images of his celebrity icons,

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many of whom he knew,

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plastered all over this screen, when he lived here from 1808 to 1814.

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It's crammed with pictures and news articles of people

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he admired from the world of the theatre.

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On this side are the stars of the stage, all over the place.

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Look at these - there's Sarah Siddons here,

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and the celebrated actor Edmund Kean.

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I think they were the Kate Winslet and the George Clooney of their day.

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This side reflects what might seem an unusual obsession

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for a Romantic poet, and that's boxing.

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This character here is John Jackson,

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he was the Muhammad Ali of his day, and at huge cost,

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Byron hired him to be his own personal boxing instructor.

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It's a crucial part of Byron's history

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and an amazing record from 200 years ago.

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It was almost lost when he sold it to pay off debts,

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but fortunately Byron's publisher tracked it down

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and brought it back to Newstead, where it's resided ever since.

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The screen is just one of a collection of objects here

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belonging to the great man. This is his desk,

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at which he used to write some of his poems.

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His ink well, his candlesticks,

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and these of course are his boxing gloves.

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We'll be seeing more of those later in the programme.

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Our experts won't be pulling any punches with their valuations,

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as they welcome the good folk of Nottinghamshire and beyond.

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So, you've brought a little couple here.

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-A little pair of tiny, tiny dolls.

-Yes.

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Can you tell me anything about them?

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They used to be in my grandma's house,

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at the top of the stairs in a doll's house.

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Right, so they had their own residence.

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-They had their own residence, yes.

-Yes.

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And somehow, I think when we cleared out, my aunt kept them

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and she eventually gave them to me.

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And what happened to their residence?

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-Where did that go?

-No idea.

-So they've been homeless ever since.

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-That's it, they've lived in a drawer.

-Right, OK.

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-Any idea how old they are?

-No idea, really.

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But I think they were there in 1907 because my mum could remember them.

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-Right, so we can get them back to 1907.

-Yes.

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-Actually, they're rather older.

-Right.

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I think they were made around about 1820-1830

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so they're nearly 200 years old.

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-Oh, I didn't realise they were as old as that.

-No, they are.

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Well, their fashions actually display their age quite well.

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-Oh, right.

-But what's really unusual

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is this chap's dressed as a gentleman.

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You don't get many male dolls at that period,

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and they were made in an area called the Grodon Valley

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which was on the border of Italy and Germany.

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Oh, right.

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Their lovely faces are painted and then gessoed over the top,

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or varnished over the top, and they're hand whittled.

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And what's even more interesting about them, when Queen Victoria

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was young, before she ascended the throne, she and her governess,

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Baroness Lehzen, decorated dolls and dressed dolls just like this.

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-Oh.

-It was a fashionable thing to do.

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So they're really early and really sought after.

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Oh. Not rubbish, like my son says?

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-He said they were rubbish?

-Rubbish.

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Really? Well, they're far from rubbish.

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To a doll's house collector, they're little gems of Regency fashion.

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-Oh.

-And, you know, I've noticed the condition's not good.

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No, not really.

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They're both missing an arm So they're probably not worth much.

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£1,000.

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-Not rubbish.

-Not rubbish.

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Not rubbish, very nice.

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Tea is served.

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Thank you, yes, tea for two.

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Tea for two. Tell me about these.

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Well, I don't know very much about this, Lars, at all,

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-other than I do know it is Royal Crown Derby.

-Yeah.

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And it was in me mother's house since about 1980, I think,

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but what little bit of research I have done,

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-I've never seen one in the rust colour.

-Right.

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-I've only ever seen it in blue and white.

-OK.

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And I've never seen it on a swivel - what I would call a party Susan.

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A party Susan?

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But I think this is called a lazy Susan.

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-That's what I would call it.

-Yes.

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And the idea is, you just keep it on the table

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-and you can serve tea very, very easily on the round table.

-Yeah.

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-By just rotating the stand.

-That's right.

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We've got underneath the mark of the Royal Crown Derby factory,

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they've called the pattern Wilmot and there's that little diamond

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that gives us the actual date

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-when the design was taken out as a patent.

-Yes.

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But you've also got these. Tell me about those.

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Well, I'm hoping these are Pinkston.

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Pinkston being?

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Pinkston, from the Pinkston ceramics factory

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which I think was opened around 1796, maybe a little earlier,

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I'm not sure, but I think by the early 1800s it was closed again.

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-But there's no markings at all on it.

-No markings.

-None.

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Let's have a quick look. No markings.

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-Are you sure?

-Well, I've had a close look.

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-Even in the sunshine!

-How close did you look?

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Do you see that, and that, and that?

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Those are the little setting marks,

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the spurs on which that would be perched in the kiln

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when it was being fired. An absolute giveaway for Pinkston.

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Oh, right.

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So you're right, Pinkston, but much earlier.

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So we go from the 1880s back to the late 1700s, early 1800s.

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The colours are exceptional.

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This wonderfully thin palette -

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you've only got a very small number of colours.

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Tones of green, a little brown and then just a tinge of blue here.

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Beautiful landscape. I mean, this is as close as we get,

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without exaggeration, to John Constable on porcelain.

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And the style is typical of Pinkston,

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as is the quality of the gilding.

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I mean, the gilding is as bright as the day it came out of the kiln.

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A continuous landscape, unbroken, beautiful thing.

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I mean, this is stunning, and I have to say, I'm going to come clean.

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Given the choice between the late Victorian transfer printed...

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Yes, yes, I understand.

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..and exquisitely hand painted, there is no competition.

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But is that reflected in the price?

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Oh, I couldn't tell you. I would hope so.

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I think you could buy a lazy Susan today, from Derby,

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for around maybe £500 to £800.

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Maybe a bit more in a shop, but at auction £500 to £800.

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-Very nice.

-For a Pinkston trio - it's an incomplete tea service -

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-£500 to £800.

-Oh. Yes, very nice.

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So this is a good instance of something that is so much better

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in quality than that, being worth so much more as well.

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-It doesn't always work like that.

-No, it doesn't.

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Very nice, thank you very much.

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So I've been through ten volumes of this stuff, all to do with royalty.

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Kings, queens, jubilees and all the rest of it.

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-What started you?

-I saw a Silver Jubilee chocolate wrapper,

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1935 Silver Jubilee, on the internet and I was lucky enough to win the bid

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and subsequently I've found nearly 100 different wrappers,

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but I went on to collect paper ephemera, way back as far as I can.

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What grabs you about chocolate wrappers?

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I think the artwork's fantastic and it was a throwaway item

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and yet there's in many cases a real picture of the king and queen,

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in many cases the wrapper's embossed.

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Yes, but you see you've preserved the silver paper.

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Silver paper, it's the only one that I've got

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of nearly 100 chocolate wrappers

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-where someone's bothered to save the silver paper.

-Well, I'm gob-smacked.

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I really am, absolutely incredible.

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But those don't quite excite me as they obviously excite you.

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I'm much more interested in this sort of stuff

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-which are coronation tickets.

-Yeah.

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Which I find absolutely incredible.

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Here is one for the present Queen's coronation, 2nd day of June 1953.

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Embossed, signed by the Earl Marshall.

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that's a beautiful 1953 piece of coronation memorabilia.

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-Do you know, I've never seen one of those.

-Right.

-What is it?

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-It's a ticket for George III's coronation.

-George III's coronation.

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-Yes. So it's very old.

-It's very old indeed!

-Older than me!

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One of the 18th century... George III's coronation,

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I mean he was, he was on the throne for nearly 60 years.

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-The man who lost the Colonies.

-The man who lost the Colonies,

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the man who lost America, yes indeed.

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Printed in bisque and the symbols of the coronation all around it.

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That is incredibly rare.

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Now you didn't find THAT on the net?

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-No, I bought it from an ephemera dealer in London.

-Yes,

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and I expect you paid a small fortune for that.

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I paid a fair amount.

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And then of course you go to George IV, they're much more, much more...

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That was a very expensive coronation.

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It was one of the most expensive,

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-because they dressed up in medieval costume.

-Yeah.

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And they paraded around the streets.

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-Now this one is a number

-10. Yeah.

-But it's signed by Clarence.

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This is the Duke of Clarence.

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The Duke of Clarence, who was his brother.

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-Became William IV.

-So this is a king's coronation ticket.

-Correct.

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In actual fact.

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So, we've got George IV here, we've got his brother, William IV here.

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Now that's not a particularly special ticket

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-but it's on a very, very interesting colour of mauve.

-Yeah.

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And then this one here - that is Queen Victoria's.

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Tiny coronation, they didn't want to spend much money on it.

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So, let's go for a valuation of the coronation tickets.

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We start off with the George III.

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I think that's very rare,

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best part of £1,000 quite easily.

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The Queen - well, they aren't particularly rare,

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they do turn up. I would say no more than about £100.

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Going back to Queen Victoria,

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not many tickets around,

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-probably £300-£400, possibly £500 for that one.

-Yeah.

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Again, William IV - if you've got the set

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-you've got to have him, haven't you?

-Yeah.

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-So we're talking about £200-£300 for that one.

-Yeah.

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And, of course, George IV,

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there were many done and the security printing

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obviously attracts a lot of people.

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They are incredibly attractive

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and so I would say for an ordinary one

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we would be talking about £300-£400, possibly £500.

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-But - we've got a signature of a king here.

-Yeah.

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So a king's ticket going to his brother's coronation,

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the future king...

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it's unique, isn't it?

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Well, if I was into chocolate wrappers, as you are,

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and I was valuing those as a few hundred pounds or £100 each,

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I'd have to value that at thousands of pounds,

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say £5,000.

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Thank you very much.

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The most beautiful white marble Hellenistic Victorian bust

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-of a gentleman, and it's by Patric Park, a Scot.

-Yes.

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-And he was born in Glasgow.

-Uh-huh.

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-Lived there for most of his life.

-Uh-huh.

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And he moved right at the end of his life -

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-he died in 1855 - it's dated on the back.

-Yes.

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To Manchester. What do you know about him?

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He was on a railway station,

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he went to help a porter struggling with a heavy load,

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and he burst a blood vessel and it killed him.

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That was in 1855.

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But his work can be found in Holyrood House in Edinburgh

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and a museum in London, so he's quite an eminent sculptor.

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Very much so.

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It's in white Cararra marble and it is flawless.

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His face is wonderfully smooth

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and then his hair is a little rougher

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where it's been carved and not finished,

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and when you look closely at it, you can see how he's made it.

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Because, you know, a sculptor will look at a beautiful piece

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of Cararra marble like this, and he'll try to see the form within it.

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If you think about it, it's the complete opposite

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of making a sculpture out of clay, where you're ADDING to it.

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Instead he's cutting away the material

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to reveal what he imagines inside.

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And he uses various things to help him, for example

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with the sitter, with the gentleman himself,

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he'd use a pair of callipers to measure the side of his head,

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and the top of it, and then working on the raw block of marble -

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you just have to imagine a big block here -

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what he'd do is, he'd drill through to the required depth,

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using a drill, and that would give him his marker points

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to chip away to.

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And you can sometimes see - and I think you can see here -

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where the drill has gone into the side of his head there.

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That's a mark to help the sculptor get the width of the forehead right.

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I'm looking for clues as to the sitter, at the moment.

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The thing is that, because he's quite a good sculptor,

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it should be possible to find out who he is.

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Now I've had a bit of a look but I can't immediately,

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with the facilities available to me now, nail the sitter.

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But most of his sitters were very eminent men.

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If we knew the sitter, it might make a difference to the value,

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-and so we need to find out.

-Yes.

-If we don't know the sitter,

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I think it's worth between £4,000 and £6,000 just as it is,

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-and cheap at the price.

-Yes.

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But if you went to a specialist sculpture dealer,

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I can see that being in five figures easily.

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They'd do the research, they'd find the sitter,

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they'd realise its true value.

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Needs work. That's one of the best busts I've seen.

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I'm a keen dog lover, I've got two terriers,

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but, you know, both of my terriers would pass clean through this

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dog collar. I've never seen a dog collar quite like this before.

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Tell me something about it.

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Well, this dog collar has been passed on to me by my father

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and my understanding is that there was a huge bull mastiff

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in the 19th century which wore this dog collar, but I don't,

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I'm afraid, know anything about the Mrs Winton who's on the label.

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-Right, OK.

-As to whether she actually took the dog for a walk,

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-or whether it was a guard dog.

-I don't think it looks like

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the kind of dog that you would have taken for a walk.

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Judging by the stature of this collar, I think it's more

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likely to have obviously been on a guard dog of some type.

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I can see that there are two addresses.

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We've got Mrs De Winton, 20 Pont Street, South West,

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so that's Belgravia in London - very smart address.

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If we turn it round and look at the other brass plaque, we've got

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Mrs De Winton. Is that... Ms... Sorry, my Welsh is terrible. It's...

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-Maesllwch Castle.

-Maesllwch Castle, Glasbury, Radnorshire.

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Is this your family?

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This is my family.

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They were considerably better off, let's just say,

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in the 19th century, thus they had two addresses.

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Right, OK, OK.

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Now, I see that you've brought your dog with you today as well.

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-Obviously this is not going to fit your lovely dog.

-No, no.

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It's got a lot of interest for collectors of dog collars.

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I'm not sure that you would ever, ever want to sell it of course.

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No. I don't think I would.

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It's an interesting piece, and I don't think I'll ever have a dog

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that big, although a lot of people in Nottingham do, I have to say.

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But certainly I'm surprised to find people collect them.

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Well, we're going to have to talk about value,

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because this dog collar would make £1,000 at auction.

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Really?! Good grief! Good grief.

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-Absolutely.

-Amazing.

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Not only have you brought me some fabulous jewellery to look at,

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you've brought me this fantastic photograph of the items being worn.

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Well, this is my grandfather and my grandmother and he was the Sheriff

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of Carmarthen and this is in their dress clothes, and my grandmother's

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wearing the diamond necklace and the earrings in the photograph.

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Absolutely stunning. They're beautiful and, you know,

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she's wearing the perfect dress for the jewels, isn't she?

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Yes, yes, absolutely.

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Now the actual necklace, it has a name

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and it's called a negligee pendant.

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-Oh.

-Have you heard that?

-No, not at all.

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I'm not quite sure why.

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I can't imagine people walking around in their negligees

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-wearing... Well, maybe they do, with a diamond pendant.

-Oh, how lovely.

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That name suggests the elegance and, I mean, these are just absolutely

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quintessentially just so elegant,

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this photograph showing the jewels. Have you worn them?

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Yes, absolutely. On any occasion I can.

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-Any excuse.

-Yes. If it's a ball or whatever.

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And I was particularly excited

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because my niece wanted to wear the earrings for her wedding

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as a sort of to be borrowed, and that was very special for me as well.

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How wonderful to have them documented

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-and to be passed down through the generations.

-Yes.

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And still being loved and worn, that's what's so special.

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-Looking at the pendant first, it's in platinum.

-Yeah.

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-Now, it dates slightly earlier than the photograph.

-Oh, really?

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Yes, it's about 1900.

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Oh, I didn't realise it was that old.

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-Yes, yes, it's about 1900-1905.

-Yes.

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And we've got what's called knife wire edges

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that those diamonds, beautiful diamonds, have been suspended from.

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-They are cut, sort of the 1900s, 1910 cut.

-Yes.

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Still has the full 57 facets but the angles are slightly softer

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and so, therefore, they're not so sharp

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-as the modern brilliant cut that we know today.

-Oh, right, yes.

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Then you've got the ear pendants here,

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again with that knife-wire edge motif suspending the two diamonds.

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Similar cut, same period,

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and they're just under a carat in weight, each of the stones,

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but again a really lovely quality.

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And the ring - well, this is about 1920, this is slightly later.

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Oh, right. I love the emerald cut diamond in the centre.

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-Is that what it's called?

-Well, it's a step cut diamond.

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This is quite an unusual cut because it's square, but it has a few

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more facets than you would normally expect for a square cut diamond.

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-Oh, right.

-So it really is quite unusual,

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and the beautiful little sapphires around the side on the edge there.

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-Yes, I really like those.

-And the baguette cut diamonds.

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The attention to detail of this ring is really quite superb and

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again, you've got about 1.8 carats, quite a large stone in the centre.

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-Oh, right.

-I mean, you know, value.

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Collectively you're looking around about £20,000.

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What?!

0:20:290:20:30

Oh, I didn't expect that.

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I mean, you know, they really are fabulous. They really are fabulous.

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-Oh, God.

-And definitely had fantastic taste.

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Yes, she did, didn't she?

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This week's Basic, Better, Best Challenge is a bit of a

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bittersweet experience for me.

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These are vinyl records, remember those?

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And these belong to Marc Allum and he's brought them along.

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There's Hank Williams...

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MUSIC: "I Saw The Light" by Hank WIlliams

0:21:130:21:16

..Jimi Hendrix...

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MUSIC: "Castles Made Of Sand" by Jimi Hendrix

0:21:180:21:20

..and the Sex Pistols.

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MUSIC: "Anarchy In The UK" by Sex pistols

0:21:220:21:24

And one of them, the basic one, is worth £20.

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The better is worth 200,

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and the best is worth £500.

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Now, I don't know about you, but I gave all my records away

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years ago and I hope I'm not going to regret it today.

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Anyway, let's see what our visitors think first.

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Here we have Basic, Better, Best. Which do you think is which?

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I kind of think Hank Williams is the best.

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-You think Hank Williams is the best.

-Yes.

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The basic one is worth £20,

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the better is worth 200, and the best is worth 500.

0:21:540:21:58

Sex Pistols basic, erm...Jimi Hendrix better.

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-This one's basic...

-Right.

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-..this one's £200...

-Better.

-And this one's the best.

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Hank Williams basic. Erm, Sex Pistols better and Jimi Hendrix best.

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Sex Pistols basic, Hank Williams better and Jimi Hendrix best.

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-And were you a fan?

-Yes.

0:22:230:22:25

At the end of the 19th century, I don't think most fireplaces,

0:22:300:22:33

or hallways, were complete without their set of tiles.

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But where did this set come from?

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It came out the old Pearsons Department Store

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and when it was being demolished after the fire, my uncle bought them

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out of there, gave them to my aunt, who refused to have them in the

0:22:460:22:49

house and they've been wrapped up in newspaper in the garage ever since.

0:22:490:22:55

Really? So that's where he kept them, these prized possessions.

0:22:550:22:59

Well, they were a nice save.

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I mean, interesting, if we look at the two panels,

0:23:010:23:04

quite clearly we've got the depiction of air and fire.

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Ah, that's what it is.

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-So I can only assume somewhere is earth and water.

-Right.

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Sadly your uncle wasn't quite there early enough to get the full set.

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What a shame.

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These are classic interpretations of this

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sort of style at the end of the 19th century, and I've gone all over

0:23:220:23:26

them and temptingly and teasingly, down the bottom, there is the

0:23:260:23:32

most faint signature, which I believe to read as Babb, B-A-B-B.

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And a date of 1876, 1874.

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I've got to be honest, I don't know the artist.

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They are a plastic clay tile,

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rather than what we call a dust pressed tile.

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It's a certain type of manufacture, so it's clay thrown into a mould,

0:23:510:23:55

fired, tin glazed and then they've been hand enamelled on top.

0:23:550:24:01

Everything about them screams to me of that late movement

0:24:010:24:05

going on at the end of the 19th century.

0:24:050:24:07

They've got essence of William Morris, they've got essence

0:24:070:24:10

of the Pre-Raphaelites. They almost look like stained glass panels.

0:24:100:24:15

-Yes, yes.

-So whether they've drawn their interpretation from that

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really needs a little bit more research, but they are sensational.

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-Beautiful, aren't they?

-So, value.

0:24:240:24:27

I'm going to go with a slightly open book in the fact that I haven't

0:24:270:24:32

tracked down who this artist is, or clarified that signature, so I'm

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going to go on their pure artistic merit and how good they are,

0:24:360:24:40

and I think for that alone, these panels are worth at least £800.

0:24:400:24:46

Wow. Wow. For something that's been in the garage.

0:24:460:24:51

But let me go on further, £800 each.

0:24:510:24:54

Wow.

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That's a holiday. They're too beautiful.

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They are beautiful tiles.

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If earth and water are out there somewhere,

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they would make a sensational set of tiles and I think a little

0:25:070:25:11

bit more research will only take them further. They are exquisite.

0:25:110:25:15

My goodness, how glamorous. Matches you two ladies as well.

0:25:180:25:22

So tell me, is this something that's come to you from your family?

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It was given to my mother by a lady called Adele Roscoe who,

0:25:260:25:31

with her husband, ran the Palais de Dance in Mansfield

0:25:310:25:36

from 1927 and they closed in 1967.

0:25:360:25:42

I think were quite well-known ballroom dancers, weren't they?

0:25:420:25:45

-Very well-known, yes, yes.

-Yes.

0:25:450:25:47

So is something that she wore herself?

0:25:470:25:50

-These apparently belonged to her mother.

-Right.

0:25:500:25:54

And she was supposed to have danced to the King of Spain in that

0:25:540:25:57

particular dress.

0:25:570:25:58

Really? And what sort of date would that have been?

0:25:580:26:02

1910 or... I don't know.

0:26:020:26:05

OK. Well, I think that story may be slightly far-fetched

0:26:050:26:09

in that this actually, I don't know whether you know,

0:26:090:26:12

this is not actually a dress at all.

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It's been made into a dress, but actually what it is, it's

0:26:140:26:17

an Egyptian dowry shawl and you've probably wondered what this thread,

0:26:170:26:23

which looks slightly gold on there.

0:26:230:26:26

-It's actually silver and it's just tarnished slightly.

-Oh.

0:26:260:26:29

If you just polish that up, it actually would shine again.

0:26:290:26:32

These were given with ladies when they got married,

0:26:320:26:35

as part of their dowry.

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It's been cut across the centre and has had this stitched onto it

0:26:370:26:40

to make it into a dress.

0:26:400:26:43

Typically these date from between about,

0:26:430:26:45

about 1915-1925 or thereabouts.

0:26:450:26:49

But it hails from North Africa, from Egypt.

0:26:490:26:52

And the shawl - presumably that was hers as well.

0:26:520:26:55

That was hers as well, yes.

0:26:550:26:57

Well, the shawl is actually older than the dress.

0:26:570:27:00

The shawl is a Cantonese shawl dating from the very late part

0:27:000:27:05

of the 19th century.

0:27:050:27:06

What's remarkable about this one is that it's in fantastic condition.

0:27:060:27:09

They're not particularly uncommon, you do see them,

0:27:090:27:12

but often they're holed or their colours have faded, but this

0:27:120:27:15

is fabulous, it's like the day it was new and I'm assuming this is

0:27:150:27:18

actually a very large piece as well. They're generally very, very big.

0:27:180:27:21

-Is it something you've worn yourself?

-I have, yes.

0:27:210:27:24

Because I've often seen people wearing these at fancy dress

0:27:240:27:26

-parties actually.

-I have, yes.

-OK, well, that's perfect then.

0:27:260:27:30

With regards to value, these perfect in their shawl form currently

0:27:300:27:37

sell for £400 to £600, something in that order.

0:27:370:27:41

However, the fact that it's been made into a dress,

0:27:410:27:44

as lovely as it is, it does devalue it somewhat, to be honest with you,

0:27:440:27:48

and we've got a little hole there, so I think value is not

0:27:480:27:50

going to be huge on that. Possibly £150 perhaps, or thereabouts.

0:27:500:27:58

Whereas, the shawl is actually a far more desirable thing.

0:27:580:28:01

It's very, very in vogue now, people love this sort of thing to

0:28:010:28:04

decorate their houses, and that at auction would probably

0:28:040:28:07

sell for maybe £250, £300, somewhere in that region.

0:28:070:28:11

-Right, very interesting.

-Right, very nice.

0:28:110:28:13

Earlier on, Marc Allum set us our Basic, Better, Best Challenge

0:28:230:28:26

with vinyl records, remember? The basic one is worth £20,

0:28:260:28:30

the better £200, and the best £500.

0:28:300:28:35

Now, I would like to think I might know something about vinyl records,

0:28:350:28:38

but, Marc, I have absolutely no idea.

0:28:380:28:41

-We've got Hank Williams, Jimi Hendrix and the Sex Pistols.

-Yep.

0:28:410:28:44

I mean, I presume it's about rarity but that's as much as I could go on.

0:28:440:28:49

It's not always just rarity

0:28:490:28:51

but that, obviously, is extremely important.

0:28:510:28:53

So what should we be looking for?

0:28:530:28:55

I presume it's not the fact that this is a 45

0:28:550:28:57

-and this is an LP.

-No, not necessarily at all.

0:28:570:29:00

So, where should we start when trying to assess these three?

0:29:000:29:03

Well, I've tried to foil you, I suppose, in doing this.

0:29:030:29:05

So what I've done, I've given you a very old single,

0:29:050:29:09

which is Hank Williams, I Saw The Light.

0:29:090:29:11

This is an EP in fact, and was made in 1955.

0:29:110:29:14

In the centre here we've got Jimi Hendrix's second album,

0:29:140:29:16

Axis: Bold As Love, 1967. This has an insert inside it.

0:29:160:29:22

Here we've got the Sex Pistols first single, Anarchy In The UK, 1976.

0:29:220:29:29

Not only is it their first single on EMI, but it's got

0:29:290:29:33

a mis-credit on it, it's got a producer mis-credit on it.

0:29:330:29:36

-Oh, so this has got a mistake on it?

-Got a mistake on it.

0:29:360:29:39

Not only that, only 5,000 of them were made, so after that, it

0:29:390:29:44

was obviously changed, but this one is not only the mis-credit, it's

0:29:440:29:48

got the "Demo record, not for sale," so that was a promotional copy and a

0:29:480:29:52

mis-credit, so those are the kind of idiosyncrasies you're looking for.

0:29:520:29:56

When I've seen this with our visitors,

0:29:560:29:58

we all came up with different answers.

0:29:580:30:00

I went for basic being Hank Williams,

0:30:000:30:02

Jimi Hendrix better and then I presumed that the Sex Pistols

0:30:020:30:06

with the demo record, was the best.

0:30:060:30:09

You got one right here.

0:30:090:30:11

-Shall I tell you which one it is?

-Yes.

0:30:110:30:12

It's basic.

0:30:120:30:14

And so why is the Hank Williams, the basic one?

0:30:140:30:15

He's just not as collected, so he's worth £20.

0:30:150:30:19

If we go on to these two, you've got these two the wrong way round.

0:30:190:30:22

OK, so this is obviously better then, the Anarchy In The UK,

0:30:220:30:27

so after all you said about it, why is this not the best one?

0:30:270:30:30

That was the foil in the collection here,

0:30:300:30:32

because one of the most valuable records ever made is

0:30:320:30:35

the Sex Pistols, God Save The Queen, but it's on A&M.

0:30:350:30:39

-And that's where people get confused.

-The A&M label?

0:30:390:30:42

Yeah, they were only on A&M for a very, very short time,

0:30:420:30:45

and when God Save The Queen came out,

0:30:450:30:47

actually most of those were destroyed and only a few exist.

0:30:470:30:51

There have been instances of that single selling for over £12,000.

0:30:510:30:55

-Gosh.

-That is one of the holy grails of the vinyl world.

0:30:550:31:02

So that was the foil and that's worth about £200.

0:31:020:31:06

Because there are more of them, it's just not as desirable.

0:31:060:31:09

-Absolutely.

-So Jimi Hendrix is the best - why?

0:31:090:31:12

Why, well, what we could say?

0:31:120:31:14

Jimi Hendrix, one of the most iconic musicians of all time.

0:31:140:31:17

This is a mono edition of the album, which was later re-editioned

0:31:170:31:20

in stereo. It has inserts in it, which are complete and those inserts

0:31:200:31:25

make a big difference to the price, the condition of them as well.

0:31:250:31:28

Very, very sought after. This album is worth £500 to a collector.

0:31:280:31:31

There'll always be iconic in music, and certainly...

0:31:310:31:35

You know, my wife on countless occasions has

0:31:350:31:39

tried to make me get rid of my vinyl, but I lug box upon box of it

0:31:390:31:44

around and unlike yourself, I'm never going to get rid of it, Fiona.

0:31:440:31:48

You say your wife tried to persuade you to get rid of all

0:31:480:31:50

your vinyl records. I did actually chuck out all my husband's records.

0:31:500:31:54

He might not be too happy with me now.

0:31:540:31:56

Do you know, we've had the most extraordinary things on the Roadshow.

0:31:560:32:00

We've valued all sorts of unspeakable things -

0:32:000:32:03

monarch's underwear -

0:32:030:32:05

and here we are at Newstead and we've got a pair of boxing gloves.

0:32:050:32:10

Explain.

0:32:100:32:11

Well, Byron was born with a deformed, or a damaged, right foot.

0:32:110:32:18

This deformity or damage that occurred at birth,

0:32:180:32:22

-caused Byron to walk with a limp for the rest of his life.

-Right.

0:32:220:32:25

Now despite this - or possibly more likely because of it -

0:32:250:32:29

he became a great sportsman and his favourite sport was boxing.

0:32:290:32:33

It was boxing. And he's boxing with gloves, because common people

0:32:330:32:37

fought with their fists, gentlemen fought with gloves.

0:32:370:32:42

I know that Byron sparred with gloves that he called muffles.

0:32:420:32:45

Muffles, and here they are.

0:32:450:32:47

There are references in letters from Byron's servant,

0:32:470:32:50

Joe Murray, to his lordship's boxing gloves being

0:32:500:32:53

stored in the great dining room along with the fencing equipment.

0:32:530:32:56

And that's where you found them.

0:32:560:32:58

Well, certainly that's where Thomas Wildman found them

0:32:580:33:00

when he bought Newstead from Byron in 1818.

0:33:000:33:03

And he was a fellow, he was a colleague at school, wasn't he?

0:33:030:33:06

Yes, a good friend in fact, yes, yes.

0:33:060:33:08

-And Byron learned boxing at school.

-He did.

0:33:080:33:12

-When he arrived at Harrow, inevitably he was bullied a bit.

-Yes.

0:33:120:33:16

He was taunted about his disability and being hot-tempered and proud,

0:33:160:33:20

his immediate response was to give any of his tormentors a good

0:33:200:33:23

thrashing and very soon he got a reputation for his skills

0:33:230:33:27

in fighting and became a champion of the younger, weaker boys

0:33:270:33:32

who he protected from the bullies.

0:33:320:33:34

-Absolutely splendid, and he always used them here.

-Yes.

0:33:340:33:37

And he did the most extraordinary things here at Newstead, didn't he?

0:33:370:33:40

-He did, well, he...

-I mean, he shot guns in the hall.

0:33:400:33:43

He ran a bachelor residence here

0:33:430:33:45

and he had great fun in the years that he lived here

0:33:450:33:48

before his marriage.

0:33:480:33:49

He swam in the lake, he rode horses,

0:33:490:33:52

he fenced, he was a great marksman, but his great passion was boxing,

0:33:520:33:56

because as he said, he got the most exertion, it was the most

0:33:560:34:00

extreme exertion that he got from boxing and that was important to him,

0:34:000:34:03

because in addition to survival tactics, for Byron, boxing provided

0:34:030:34:08

-a means of keeping fit and he was very obsessed with keeping fit.

-Yes.

0:34:080:34:13

These are hallowed relics. Not only did Byron's hands inhabit

0:34:130:34:17

-these gloves, wrote his poems with these hands...

-Yes.

0:34:170:34:20

..and everything else.

0:34:200:34:22

They are as close as we can almost get to Byron.

0:34:220:34:25

They're extremely personal, and look how tiny the hands are.

0:34:250:34:29

Yes, they are, aren't they? Yes, little fingers.

0:34:290:34:32

-Have you tried them on?

-No, of course not!

0:34:320:34:35

I'd be tempted, but anyway, my hands are too big.

0:34:350:34:38

It would be awfully exciting to try them on.

0:34:380:34:40

It would, it would, it would.

0:34:400:34:41

-Now, you don't want me to value them.

-Not allowed to.

0:34:410:34:44

No, of course not, absolutely.

0:34:440:34:46

I wouldn't dream of valuing them, I'm a bookseller,

0:34:460:34:48

I'm in antiquarian books, why should I value gloves?

0:34:480:34:51

But let me tell you, I'm interested in memorabilia

0:34:510:34:53

and signed memorabilia come to that.

0:34:530:34:57

I suppose the only thing I can think of is a pair of Henry Cooper's

0:34:570:35:00

gloves, signed by Henry Cooper, £5,000.

0:35:000:35:05

Impressive.

0:35:050:35:06

Not signed by Byron, Newstead Abbey, couldn't be better,

0:35:060:35:12

on the Antiques Roadshow...

0:35:120:35:14

-I couldn't possibly tell you.

-Thank you.

0:35:140:35:16

Well, thank you for bringing them in.

0:35:180:35:20

I know you didn't have far to come, but they're great.

0:35:200:35:23

Well, here we have Neptune carved in this amazing shell,

0:35:250:35:28

looking over this collection of cameos.

0:35:280:35:32

How did you get to have so many cameos?

0:35:320:35:34

Well, the cameos belonged to my grandfather.

0:35:340:35:37

I never met him because he died when my father was 16, in 1929,

0:35:370:35:42

but this was his collection.

0:35:420:35:45

My grandfather bought them at auction, I think.

0:35:450:35:48

And they've always been in the family

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and they were left to me in my father's will.

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Well, they really do show sort of a very male side to perhaps

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collecting as far as jewellery's concerned,

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because way back in the Renaissance period, it was the fashion

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and the thing to do, to build a huge collection of cameos,

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whether they be shell cameos, as we have the majority here, or even

0:36:080:36:12

cameos carved in agate, and leaders such as the Medicis over in Italy

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were collecting these cameos to show that they had power and wealth.

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There was a big revival of cameos in the Victorian period because

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they too were looking back to the Renaissance period for inspiration

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in design and also back to the Classical period where they were

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looking at the ancient cameos, also for inspiration in the jewellery.

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And the majority of the cameos that you have here

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-are from the Victorian period.

-Well, that would figure.

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And I think to see Neptune obviously carved in the shell, it just

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brings home the fact that these cameos do come mainly from shells.

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And it's a really very delicate and intricate way of producing

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a wonderful picture within a shell or a hard stone.

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Subject matters are always very important

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when it comes down to cameos.

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So here we've got Hebe

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and the figure of the eagle, which is actually representing Zeus,

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so that's a very, very well carved cameo.

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You've got depth there, which is important, you've got an even colour

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in the whiteness and very fine quality carving and then here,

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a chariot with the horses and the lovely delicate stars.

0:37:210:37:27

-I mean, what attention to detail to get that.

-I know, I know.

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And then over here, this is an interesting one,

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-it's actually made out of lava.

-Oh, right.

0:37:330:37:36

Because during the Victorian period, of course,

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there was real interest in Mount Vesuvius and the cameos were

0:37:390:37:42

carved out of the lava and they come in a variety of colours.

0:37:420:37:45

And we've got a lovely ram carved into this one here,

0:37:450:37:48

-which of course will represent Aries.

-Yes.

0:37:480:37:50

Now I know that we've only got a few here on show, haven't we?

0:37:500:37:53

-That's right.

-So how many have you got in your collection?

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Well, erm...we've got 36.

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Well, if they are all as good a quality as this,

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and showing such a variety of subjects et cetera,

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then to a collector I think if you were to re-offer them

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at auction, then I can see somebody paying in excess of possibly

0:38:080:38:12

-£2,500 to £3,000 for them.

-Really?

0:38:120:38:15

That's a lot. That's lovely. Thank you very much. Thank you.

0:38:150:38:18

-But I'm not going to sell them.

-No.

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This is an absolutely fantastically dynamic image, isn't it?

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A real battle scene, we've got tanks pushing in from there,

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German and Italian tanks,

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pushing down onto this line of very beleaguered gunners

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manning their 25-pounder guns.

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It's by Terence Cuneo, who is one of the greatest

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war artists of his generation.

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Can you tell me the action that it depicts?

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It's describing the Battle of Knightsbridge, which took

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place on June 6th 1942.

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My regiment, the South Notts Hussars, had been given the order

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to fight to the last man and the last round,

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and not to retire, so we knew we were fighting a last stand,

0:39:080:39:13

and this painting by Cuneo

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is marking position after a long day's battle.

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So this is actually a picture of an action that you fought in?

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I fought in that battle. I am in fact that man there.

0:39:250:39:29

-You are that man there.

-And the reason I say that, is because

0:39:290:39:32

the regiment was wiped out.

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By some miracle, I was the last man, virtually,

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and I fired the last round, and when Cuneo was commissioned to paint this,

0:39:380:39:45

he needed someone to tell him what it was about, and I spent many, many

0:39:450:39:50

hours with him, describing the situation which he later painted.

0:39:500:39:54

-So you are the man that pulled the handle.

-Yes.

0:39:540:39:57

-Fired the gun.

-Yes.

-And did the round hit anything?

-Yes, it did.

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That last round I fired, which was later than this,

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it was about six o'clock at night, did hit a Mark IV tank

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and then this man standing at the side of me, was killed

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because a German tank had come up behind us and fired a machinegun,

0:40:110:40:17

almost point blank, blasted him into the shield.

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And I took a deep breath and waited for mine.

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For some reason, it didn't fire and I survived and am still here.

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And so we can see on the extreme edge there,

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the artist has built up paint using a technique called impasto,

0:40:300:40:34

to give the impression

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that there's a great bang as the shot hits the tank

0:40:350:40:37

-and it fetched the turret off.

-Exactly.

0:40:370:40:39

Which is normally fairly terminal for most tanks.

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-And very close of course.

-Yes.

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-Because by this time, the tanks were right upon us.

-Yes.

0:40:430:40:47

It's interesting that this is part of your story, it's also

0:40:470:40:50

part of mine, because I was in the South Notts Hussars as well.

0:40:500:40:53

Were you really?

0:40:530:40:54

I was, and I can remember being in the gun park at the drill hall

0:40:540:40:59

-in Bulwell, which is just down the road from here.

-Indeed, yes.

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And Terence Cuneo came round to start to make

0:41:030:41:05

sketches of the guns, because we were still using the 25-pounder

0:41:050:41:08

in the 1970s because it was an excellent training gun,

0:41:080:41:12

and I can remember the commanding officer coming round and saying,

0:41:120:41:15

"Right. I need people to act as artist's models for the artist

0:41:150:41:20

"who is coming round," and there were three or four chaps

0:41:200:41:23

from my troop taken out who were placed by the artist

0:41:230:41:26

in the position that he wanted, round the gun

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and he made his preliminary sketches from it.

0:41:280:41:30

-Amazing.

-I can remember for many years,

0:41:300:41:33

sitting in armchairs conducting research in the officer's mess

0:41:330:41:36

into gin and tonic and fine wines, and this picture

0:41:360:41:39

always gazed down on us. I understand it's no longer there.

0:41:390:41:43

That's correct, it now hangs proudly at the Queen's Royal Lancers

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in Nottinghamshire Yeomanry Museum at Thoresby Courtyard,

0:41:460:41:49

Thoresby Park, which is about 20 miles from here.

0:41:490:41:52

-So, it's still very much within Nottinghamshire.

-Absolutely.

0:41:520:41:55

The greatest feature of the picture for me, the bit I like,

0:41:550:41:58

is his trademark of the little mouse.

0:41:580:42:00

-Little mouse, firing...

-And there he is,

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-he's got his own little 25-pounder.

-There he is, yes.

0:42:020:42:05

If I'm any judge of the matter, I think he's been fairly

0:42:050:42:07

successful from that pile of burning wreckage there.

0:42:070:42:11

I said that Cuneo was perhaps the greatest military

0:42:110:42:15

painting artist of his age and as a result of that,

0:42:150:42:19

his pictures are very, very much sought after.

0:42:190:42:21

If you had to buy this, this is between somewhere £30,000-£40,000.

0:42:210:42:28

It is a fantastic painting

0:42:280:42:30

and it's just wonderful to see it here at Newstead today.

0:42:300:42:32

-Thank you.

-Thank you very much indeed.

0:42:320:42:34

We've thoroughly enjoyed our day here in the glorious

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gardens of Newstead Abbey,

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but I wonder if you've noticed some noises off while we've been filming.

0:42:420:42:45

-That piercing cry you might...

-DISTANT SQUAWKING

0:42:450:42:48

Like...like that,

0:42:480:42:49

is not one of our experts exclaiming at some marvellous object

0:42:490:42:54

placed before them.

0:42:540:42:56

It's the peacocks who are wandering around, looking gorgeous,

0:42:560:42:59

but apparently they're vicious, so I've been giving them a wide berth.

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From all of us here at Newstead Abbey, until next time, bye-bye.

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