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We've all heard of Dracula, but did you know | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
he was based on one of Britain's greatest Romantic poets? | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
The blood-thirsty Count was originally a character | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
in a book written by the physician to Lord Byron. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
They clearly didn't get on very well, because the physician | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
chose to immortalise his patient as the fanged fiend. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
Welcome to Dracula's home, Newstead Abbey, in Nottinghamshire. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
We think of the cult of celebrity as a modern invention, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
but here at Newstead Abbey is the equivalent | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
of a 200-year-old scrapbook plastered with celebrities, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
that once belonged to the great Romantic poet Lord Byron, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
who back then was the biggest celebrity of them all. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Nowadays, images of famous footballers or pop stars | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
are stuck on bedroom walls, collected in sticker books, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
or plastered all over the internet. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
But back in the early 19th century, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Byron had images of his celebrity icons, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
many of whom he knew, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:56 | |
plastered all over this screen, when he lived here from 1808 to 1814. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:02 | |
It's crammed with pictures and news articles of people | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
he admired from the world of the theatre. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
On this side are the stars of the stage, all over the place. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
Look at these - there's Sarah Siddons here, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
and the celebrated actor Edmund Kean. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
I think they were the Kate Winslet and the George Clooney of their day. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
This side reflects what might seem an unusual obsession | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
for a Romantic poet, and that's boxing. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
This character here is John Jackson, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
he was the Muhammad Ali of his day, and at huge cost, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
Byron hired him to be his own personal boxing instructor. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
It's a crucial part of Byron's history | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
and an amazing record from 200 years ago. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
It was almost lost when he sold it to pay off debts, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
but fortunately Byron's publisher tracked it down | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
and brought it back to Newstead, where it's resided ever since. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
The screen is just one of a collection of objects here | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
belonging to the great man. This is his desk, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
at which he used to write some of his poems. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
His ink well, his candlesticks, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
and these of course are his boxing gloves. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
We'll be seeing more of those later in the programme. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
Our experts won't be pulling any punches with their valuations, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
as they welcome the good folk of Nottinghamshire and beyond. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
So, you've brought a little couple here. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
-A little pair of tiny, tiny dolls. -Yes. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Can you tell me anything about them? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
They used to be in my grandma's house, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
at the top of the stairs in a doll's house. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
Right, so they had their own residence. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:32 | |
-They had their own residence, yes. -Yes. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
And somehow, I think when we cleared out, my aunt kept them | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
and she eventually gave them to me. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
And what happened to their residence? | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
-Where did that go? -No idea. -So they've been homeless ever since. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
-That's it, they've lived in a drawer. -Right, OK. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
-Any idea how old they are? -No idea, really. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
But I think they were there in 1907 because my mum could remember them. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
-Right, so we can get them back to 1907. -Yes. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
-Actually, they're rather older. -Right. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
I think they were made around about 1820-1830 | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
so they're nearly 200 years old. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:03 | |
-Oh, I didn't realise they were as old as that. -No, they are. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
Well, their fashions actually display their age quite well. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
-Oh, right. -But what's really unusual | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
is this chap's dressed as a gentleman. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
You don't get many male dolls at that period, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
and they were made in an area called the Grodon Valley | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
which was on the border of Italy and Germany. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
Oh, right. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:25 | |
Their lovely faces are painted and then gessoed over the top, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
or varnished over the top, and they're hand whittled. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
And what's even more interesting about them, when Queen Victoria | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
was young, before she ascended the throne, she and her governess, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
Baroness Lehzen, decorated dolls and dressed dolls just like this. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
-Oh. -It was a fashionable thing to do. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
So they're really early and really sought after. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Oh. Not rubbish, like my son says? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
-He said they were rubbish? -Rubbish. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
Really? Well, they're far from rubbish. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
To a doll's house collector, they're little gems of Regency fashion. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
-Oh. -And, you know, I've noticed the condition's not good. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
No, not really. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
They're both missing an arm So they're probably not worth much. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
£1,000. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
-Not rubbish. -Not rubbish. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
Not rubbish, very nice. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
Tea is served. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Thank you, yes, tea for two. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
Tea for two. Tell me about these. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Well, I don't know very much about this, Lars, at all, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
-other than I do know it is Royal Crown Derby. -Yeah. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
And it was in me mother's house since about 1980, I think, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
but what little bit of research I have done, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
-I've never seen one in the rust colour. -Right. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
-I've only ever seen it in blue and white. -OK. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
And I've never seen it on a swivel - what I would call a party Susan. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
A party Susan? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
But I think this is called a lazy Susan. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
-That's what I would call it. -Yes. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
And the idea is, you just keep it on the table | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
-and you can serve tea very, very easily on the round table. -Yeah. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-By just rotating the stand. -That's right. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
We've got underneath the mark of the Royal Crown Derby factory, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
they've called the pattern Wilmot and there's that little diamond | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
that gives us the actual date | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
-when the design was taken out as a patent. -Yes. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
But you've also got these. Tell me about those. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
Well, I'm hoping these are Pinkston. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
Pinkston being? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:25 | |
Pinkston, from the Pinkston ceramics factory | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
which I think was opened around 1796, maybe a little earlier, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:34 | |
I'm not sure, but I think by the early 1800s it was closed again. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
-But there's no markings at all on it. -No markings. -None. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
Let's have a quick look. No markings. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
-Are you sure? -Well, I've had a close look. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
-Even in the sunshine! -How close did you look? | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Do you see that, and that, and that? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
Those are the little setting marks, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
the spurs on which that would be perched in the kiln | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
when it was being fired. An absolute giveaway for Pinkston. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
Oh, right. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
So you're right, Pinkston, but much earlier. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
So we go from the 1880s back to the late 1700s, early 1800s. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:18 | |
The colours are exceptional. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
This wonderfully thin palette - | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
you've only got a very small number of colours. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Tones of green, a little brown and then just a tinge of blue here. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
Beautiful landscape. I mean, this is as close as we get, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
without exaggeration, to John Constable on porcelain. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
And the style is typical of Pinkston, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
as is the quality of the gilding. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
I mean, the gilding is as bright as the day it came out of the kiln. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
A continuous landscape, unbroken, beautiful thing. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
I mean, this is stunning, and I have to say, I'm going to come clean. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
Given the choice between the late Victorian transfer printed... | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
Yes, yes, I understand. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
..and exquisitely hand painted, there is no competition. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
But is that reflected in the price? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
Oh, I couldn't tell you. I would hope so. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
I think you could buy a lazy Susan today, from Derby, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
for around maybe £500 to £800. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Maybe a bit more in a shop, but at auction £500 to £800. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
-Very nice. -For a Pinkston trio - it's an incomplete tea service - | 0:08:26 | 0:08:32 | |
-£500 to £800. -Oh. Yes, very nice. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:38 | |
So this is a good instance of something that is so much better | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
in quality than that, being worth so much more as well. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
-It doesn't always work like that. -No, it doesn't. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
Very nice, thank you very much. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
So I've been through ten volumes of this stuff, all to do with royalty. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
Kings, queens, jubilees and all the rest of it. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
-What started you? -I saw a Silver Jubilee chocolate wrapper, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
1935 Silver Jubilee, on the internet and I was lucky enough to win the bid | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
and subsequently I've found nearly 100 different wrappers, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
but I went on to collect paper ephemera, way back as far as I can. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
What grabs you about chocolate wrappers? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
I think the artwork's fantastic and it was a throwaway item | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
and yet there's in many cases a real picture of the king and queen, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
in many cases the wrapper's embossed. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
Yes, but you see you've preserved the silver paper. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Silver paper, it's the only one that I've got | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
of nearly 100 chocolate wrappers | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
-where someone's bothered to save the silver paper. -Well, I'm gob-smacked. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
I really am, absolutely incredible. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
But those don't quite excite me as they obviously excite you. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
I'm much more interested in this sort of stuff | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-which are coronation tickets. -Yeah. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Which I find absolutely incredible. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
Here is one for the present Queen's coronation, 2nd day of June 1953. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:54 | |
Embossed, signed by the Earl Marshall. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
that's a beautiful 1953 piece of coronation memorabilia. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
-Do you know, I've never seen one of those. -Right. -What is it? | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
-It's a ticket for George III's coronation. -George III's coronation. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
-Yes. So it's very old. -It's very old indeed! -Older than me! | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
One of the 18th century... George III's coronation, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
I mean he was, he was on the throne for nearly 60 years. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
-The man who lost the Colonies. -The man who lost the Colonies, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
the man who lost America, yes indeed. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
Printed in bisque and the symbols of the coronation all around it. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
That is incredibly rare. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
Now you didn't find THAT on the net? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
-No, I bought it from an ephemera dealer in London. -Yes, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
and I expect you paid a small fortune for that. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
I paid a fair amount. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
And then of course you go to George IV, they're much more, much more... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
That was a very expensive coronation. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:44 | |
It was one of the most expensive, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
-because they dressed up in medieval costume. -Yeah. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
And they paraded around the streets. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
-Now this one is a number -10. Yeah. -But it's signed by Clarence. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
This is the Duke of Clarence. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:55 | |
The Duke of Clarence, who was his brother. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-Became William IV. -So this is a king's coronation ticket. -Correct. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
In actual fact. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
So, we've got George IV here, we've got his brother, William IV here. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:09 | |
Now that's not a particularly special ticket | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-but it's on a very, very interesting colour of mauve. -Yeah. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
And then this one here - that is Queen Victoria's. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Tiny coronation, they didn't want to spend much money on it. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
So, let's go for a valuation of the coronation tickets. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
We start off with the George III. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
I think that's very rare, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:28 | |
best part of £1,000 quite easily. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
The Queen - well, they aren't particularly rare, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
they do turn up. I would say no more than about £100. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Going back to Queen Victoria, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
not many tickets around, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
-probably £300-£400, possibly £500 for that one. -Yeah. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
Again, William IV - if you've got the set | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
-you've got to have him, haven't you? -Yeah. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
-So we're talking about £200-£300 for that one. -Yeah. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
And, of course, George IV, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
there were many done and the security printing | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
obviously attracts a lot of people. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
They are incredibly attractive | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
and so I would say for an ordinary one | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
we would be talking about £300-£400, possibly £500. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
-But - we've got a signature of a king here. -Yeah. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:20 | |
So a king's ticket going to his brother's coronation, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
the future king... | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
it's unique, isn't it? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Well, if I was into chocolate wrappers, as you are, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
and I was valuing those as a few hundred pounds or £100 each, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
I'd have to value that at thousands of pounds, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
say £5,000. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
The most beautiful white marble Hellenistic Victorian bust | 0:12:46 | 0:12:52 | |
-of a gentleman, and it's by Patric Park, a Scot. -Yes. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
-And he was born in Glasgow. -Uh-huh. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
-Lived there for most of his life. -Uh-huh. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
And he moved right at the end of his life - | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
-he died in 1855 - it's dated on the back. -Yes. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
To Manchester. What do you know about him? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
He was on a railway station, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
he went to help a porter struggling with a heavy load, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:19 | |
and he burst a blood vessel and it killed him. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
That was in 1855. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
But his work can be found in Holyrood House in Edinburgh | 0:13:25 | 0:13:32 | |
and a museum in London, so he's quite an eminent sculptor. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
Very much so. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
It's in white Cararra marble and it is flawless. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
His face is wonderfully smooth | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
and then his hair is a little rougher | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
where it's been carved and not finished, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
and when you look closely at it, you can see how he's made it. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
Because, you know, a sculptor will look at a beautiful piece | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
of Cararra marble like this, and he'll try to see the form within it. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:59 | |
If you think about it, it's the complete opposite | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
of making a sculpture out of clay, where you're ADDING to it. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
Instead he's cutting away the material | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
to reveal what he imagines inside. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
And he uses various things to help him, for example | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
with the sitter, with the gentleman himself, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
he'd use a pair of callipers to measure the side of his head, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
and the top of it, and then working on the raw block of marble - | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
you just have to imagine a big block here - | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
what he'd do is, he'd drill through to the required depth, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
using a drill, and that would give him his marker points | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
to chip away to. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
And you can sometimes see - and I think you can see here - | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
where the drill has gone into the side of his head there. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
That's a mark to help the sculptor get the width of the forehead right. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
I'm looking for clues as to the sitter, at the moment. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
The thing is that, because he's quite a good sculptor, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
it should be possible to find out who he is. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Now I've had a bit of a look but I can't immediately, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
with the facilities available to me now, nail the sitter. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
But most of his sitters were very eminent men. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
If we knew the sitter, it might make a difference to the value, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
-and so we need to find out. -Yes. -If we don't know the sitter, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
I think it's worth between £4,000 and £6,000 just as it is, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
-and cheap at the price. -Yes. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
But if you went to a specialist sculpture dealer, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
I can see that being in five figures easily. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
They'd do the research, they'd find the sitter, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
they'd realise its true value. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Needs work. That's one of the best busts I've seen. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
I'm a keen dog lover, I've got two terriers, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
but, you know, both of my terriers would pass clean through this | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
dog collar. I've never seen a dog collar quite like this before. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
Tell me something about it. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
Well, this dog collar has been passed on to me by my father | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
and my understanding is that there was a huge bull mastiff | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
in the 19th century which wore this dog collar, but I don't, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
I'm afraid, know anything about the Mrs Winton who's on the label. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
-Right, OK. -As to whether she actually took the dog for a walk, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
-or whether it was a guard dog. -I don't think it looks like | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
the kind of dog that you would have taken for a walk. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
Judging by the stature of this collar, I think it's more | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
likely to have obviously been on a guard dog of some type. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
I can see that there are two addresses. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
We've got Mrs De Winton, 20 Pont Street, South West, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
so that's Belgravia in London - very smart address. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
If we turn it round and look at the other brass plaque, we've got | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
Mrs De Winton. Is that... Ms... Sorry, my Welsh is terrible. It's... | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
-Maesllwch Castle. -Maesllwch Castle, Glasbury, Radnorshire. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
Is this your family? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
This is my family. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
They were considerably better off, let's just say, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
in the 19th century, thus they had two addresses. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Right, OK, OK. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
Now, I see that you've brought your dog with you today as well. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
-Obviously this is not going to fit your lovely dog. -No, no. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
It's got a lot of interest for collectors of dog collars. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
I'm not sure that you would ever, ever want to sell it of course. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
No. I don't think I would. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
It's an interesting piece, and I don't think I'll ever have a dog | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
that big, although a lot of people in Nottingham do, I have to say. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
But certainly I'm surprised to find people collect them. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
Well, we're going to have to talk about value, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
because this dog collar would make £1,000 at auction. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
Really?! Good grief! Good grief. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
-Absolutely. -Amazing. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
Not only have you brought me some fabulous jewellery to look at, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
you've brought me this fantastic photograph of the items being worn. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
Well, this is my grandfather and my grandmother and he was the Sheriff | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
of Carmarthen and this is in their dress clothes, and my grandmother's | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
wearing the diamond necklace and the earrings in the photograph. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
Absolutely stunning. They're beautiful and, you know, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
she's wearing the perfect dress for the jewels, isn't she? | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
Yes, yes, absolutely. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
Now the actual necklace, it has a name | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
and it's called a negligee pendant. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
-Oh. -Have you heard that? -No, not at all. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
I'm not quite sure why. | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
I can't imagine people walking around in their negligees | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-wearing... Well, maybe they do, with a diamond pendant. -Oh, how lovely. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
That name suggests the elegance and, I mean, these are just absolutely | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
quintessentially just so elegant, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
this photograph showing the jewels. Have you worn them? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
Yes, absolutely. On any occasion I can. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
-Any excuse. -Yes. If it's a ball or whatever. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
And I was particularly excited | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
because my niece wanted to wear the earrings for her wedding | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
as a sort of to be borrowed, and that was very special for me as well. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
How wonderful to have them documented | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
-and to be passed down through the generations. -Yes. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
And still being loved and worn, that's what's so special. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
-Looking at the pendant first, it's in platinum. -Yeah. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
-Now, it dates slightly earlier than the photograph. -Oh, really? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
Yes, it's about 1900. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Oh, I didn't realise it was that old. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
-Yes, yes, it's about 1900-1905. -Yes. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
And we've got what's called knife wire edges | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
that those diamonds, beautiful diamonds, have been suspended from. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
-They are cut, sort of the 1900s, 1910 cut. -Yes. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
Still has the full 57 facets but the angles are slightly softer | 0:19:11 | 0:19:17 | |
and so, therefore, they're not so sharp | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
-as the modern brilliant cut that we know today. -Oh, right, yes. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
Then you've got the ear pendants here, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
again with that knife-wire edge motif suspending the two diamonds. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
Similar cut, same period, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and they're just under a carat in weight, each of the stones, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
but again a really lovely quality. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
And the ring - well, this is about 1920, this is slightly later. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Oh, right. I love the emerald cut diamond in the centre. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
-Is that what it's called? -Well, it's a step cut diamond. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
This is quite an unusual cut because it's square, but it has a few | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
more facets than you would normally expect for a square cut diamond. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
-Oh, right. -So it really is quite unusual, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
and the beautiful little sapphires around the side on the edge there. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
-Yes, I really like those. -And the baguette cut diamonds. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
The attention to detail of this ring is really quite superb and | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
again, you've got about 1.8 carats, quite a large stone in the centre. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
-Oh, right. -I mean, you know, value. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Collectively you're looking around about £20,000. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
What?! | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
Oh, I didn't expect that. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
I mean, you know, they really are fabulous. They really are fabulous. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
-Oh, God. -And definitely had fantastic taste. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
Yes, she did, didn't she? | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
This week's Basic, Better, Best Challenge is a bit of a | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
bittersweet experience for me. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
These are vinyl records, remember those? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
And these belong to Marc Allum and he's brought them along. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
There's Hank Williams... | 0:21:12 | 0:21:13 | |
MUSIC: "I Saw The Light" by Hank WIlliams | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
..Jimi Hendrix... | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
MUSIC: "Castles Made Of Sand" by Jimi Hendrix | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
..and the Sex Pistols. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
MUSIC: "Anarchy In The UK" by Sex pistols | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
And one of them, the basic one, is worth £20. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
The better is worth 200, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
and the best is worth £500. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Now, I don't know about you, but I gave all my records away | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
years ago and I hope I'm not going to regret it today. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
Anyway, let's see what our visitors think first. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Here we have Basic, Better, Best. Which do you think is which? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
I kind of think Hank Williams is the best. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
-You think Hank Williams is the best. -Yes. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
The basic one is worth £20, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
the better is worth 200, and the best is worth 500. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Sex Pistols basic, erm...Jimi Hendrix better. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
-This one's basic... -Right. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
-..this one's £200... -Better. -And this one's the best. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:11 | |
Hank Williams basic. Erm, Sex Pistols better and Jimi Hendrix best. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:18 | |
Sex Pistols basic, Hank Williams better and Jimi Hendrix best. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
-And were you a fan? -Yes. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
At the end of the 19th century, I don't think most fireplaces, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
or hallways, were complete without their set of tiles. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
But where did this set come from? | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
It came out the old Pearsons Department Store | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
and when it was being demolished after the fire, my uncle bought them | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
out of there, gave them to my aunt, who refused to have them in the | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
house and they've been wrapped up in newspaper in the garage ever since. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:55 | |
Really? So that's where he kept them, these prized possessions. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
Well, they were a nice save. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
I mean, interesting, if we look at the two panels, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
quite clearly we've got the depiction of air and fire. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
Ah, that's what it is. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
-So I can only assume somewhere is earth and water. -Right. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
Sadly your uncle wasn't quite there early enough to get the full set. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
What a shame. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:20 | |
These are classic interpretations of this | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
sort of style at the end of the 19th century, and I've gone all over | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
them and temptingly and teasingly, down the bottom, there is the | 0:23:26 | 0:23:32 | |
most faint signature, which I believe to read as Babb, B-A-B-B. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
And a date of 1876, 1874. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:42 | |
I've got to be honest, I don't know the artist. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
They are a plastic clay tile, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
rather than what we call a dust pressed tile. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
It's a certain type of manufacture, so it's clay thrown into a mould, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
fired, tin glazed and then they've been hand enamelled on top. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:01 | |
Everything about them screams to me of that late movement | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
going on at the end of the 19th century. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
They've got essence of William Morris, they've got essence | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
of the Pre-Raphaelites. They almost look like stained glass panels. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
-Yes, yes. -So whether they've drawn their interpretation from that | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
really needs a little bit more research, but they are sensational. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:24 | |
-Beautiful, aren't they? -So, value. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
I'm going to go with a slightly open book in the fact that I haven't | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
tracked down who this artist is, or clarified that signature, so I'm | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
going to go on their pure artistic merit and how good they are, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
and I think for that alone, these panels are worth at least £800. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:46 | |
Wow. Wow. For something that's been in the garage. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
But let me go on further, £800 each. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Wow. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
That's a holiday. They're too beautiful. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
They are beautiful tiles. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
If earth and water are out there somewhere, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
they would make a sensational set of tiles and I think a little | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
bit more research will only take them further. They are exquisite. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
My goodness, how glamorous. Matches you two ladies as well. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
So tell me, is this something that's come to you from your family? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
It was given to my mother by a lady called Adele Roscoe who, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
with her husband, ran the Palais de Dance in Mansfield | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
from 1927 and they closed in 1967. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:42 | |
I think were quite well-known ballroom dancers, weren't they? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-Very well-known, yes, yes. -Yes. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
So is something that she wore herself? | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
-These apparently belonged to her mother. -Right. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
And she was supposed to have danced to the King of Spain in that | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
particular dress. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
Really? And what sort of date would that have been? | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
1910 or... I don't know. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
OK. Well, I think that story may be slightly far-fetched | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
in that this actually, I don't know whether you know, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
this is not actually a dress at all. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
It's been made into a dress, but actually what it is, it's | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
an Egyptian dowry shawl and you've probably wondered what this thread, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:23 | |
which looks slightly gold on there. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
-It's actually silver and it's just tarnished slightly. -Oh. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
If you just polish that up, it actually would shine again. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
These were given with ladies when they got married, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
as part of their dowry. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
It's been cut across the centre and has had this stitched onto it | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
to make it into a dress. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
Typically these date from between about, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
about 1915-1925 or thereabouts. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
But it hails from North Africa, from Egypt. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
And the shawl - presumably that was hers as well. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
That was hers as well, yes. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
Well, the shawl is actually older than the dress. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
The shawl is a Cantonese shawl dating from the very late part | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
of the 19th century. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:06 | |
What's remarkable about this one is that it's in fantastic condition. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
They're not particularly uncommon, you do see them, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
but often they're holed or their colours have faded, but this | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
is fabulous, it's like the day it was new and I'm assuming this is | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
actually a very large piece as well. They're generally very, very big. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
-Is it something you've worn yourself? -I have, yes. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Because I've often seen people wearing these at fancy dress | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
-parties actually. -I have, yes. -OK, well, that's perfect then. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
With regards to value, these perfect in their shawl form currently | 0:27:30 | 0:27:37 | |
sell for £400 to £600, something in that order. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
However, the fact that it's been made into a dress, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
as lovely as it is, it does devalue it somewhat, to be honest with you, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
and we've got a little hole there, so I think value is not | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
going to be huge on that. Possibly £150 perhaps, or thereabouts. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:58 | |
Whereas, the shawl is actually a far more desirable thing. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
It's very, very in vogue now, people love this sort of thing to | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
decorate their houses, and that at auction would probably | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
sell for maybe £250, £300, somewhere in that region. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
-Right, very interesting. -Right, very nice. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
Earlier on, Marc Allum set us our Basic, Better, Best Challenge | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
with vinyl records, remember? The basic one is worth £20, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
the better £200, and the best £500. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
Now, I would like to think I might know something about vinyl records, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
but, Marc, I have absolutely no idea. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
-We've got Hank Williams, Jimi Hendrix and the Sex Pistols. -Yep. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
I mean, I presume it's about rarity but that's as much as I could go on. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
It's not always just rarity | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
but that, obviously, is extremely important. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
So what should we be looking for? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
I presume it's not the fact that this is a 45 | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
-and this is an LP. -No, not necessarily at all. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
So, where should we start when trying to assess these three? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
Well, I've tried to foil you, I suppose, in doing this. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
So what I've done, I've given you a very old single, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
which is Hank Williams, I Saw The Light. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
This is an EP in fact, and was made in 1955. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
In the centre here we've got Jimi Hendrix's second album, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
Axis: Bold As Love, 1967. This has an insert inside it. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:22 | |
Here we've got the Sex Pistols first single, Anarchy In The UK, 1976. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:29 | |
Not only is it their first single on EMI, but it's got | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
a mis-credit on it, it's got a producer mis-credit on it. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
-Oh, so this has got a mistake on it? -Got a mistake on it. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
Not only that, only 5,000 of them were made, so after that, it | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
was obviously changed, but this one is not only the mis-credit, it's | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
got the "Demo record, not for sale," so that was a promotional copy and a | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
mis-credit, so those are the kind of idiosyncrasies you're looking for. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
When I've seen this with our visitors, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
we all came up with different answers. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
I went for basic being Hank Williams, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
Jimi Hendrix better and then I presumed that the Sex Pistols | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
with the demo record, was the best. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
You got one right here. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
-Shall I tell you which one it is? -Yes. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:12 | |
It's basic. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
And so why is the Hank Williams, the basic one? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:15 | |
He's just not as collected, so he's worth £20. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
If we go on to these two, you've got these two the wrong way round. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
OK, so this is obviously better then, the Anarchy In The UK, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
so after all you said about it, why is this not the best one? | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
That was the foil in the collection here, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
because one of the most valuable records ever made is | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
the Sex Pistols, God Save The Queen, but it's on A&M. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
-And that's where people get confused. -The A&M label? | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Yeah, they were only on A&M for a very, very short time, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
and when God Save The Queen came out, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
actually most of those were destroyed and only a few exist. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
There have been instances of that single selling for over £12,000. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
-Gosh. -That is one of the holy grails of the vinyl world. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:02 | |
So that was the foil and that's worth about £200. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
Because there are more of them, it's just not as desirable. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
-Absolutely. -So Jimi Hendrix is the best - why? | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Why, well, what we could say? | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Jimi Hendrix, one of the most iconic musicians of all time. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
This is a mono edition of the album, which was later re-editioned | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
in stereo. It has inserts in it, which are complete and those inserts | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
make a big difference to the price, the condition of them as well. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
Very, very sought after. This album is worth £500 to a collector. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
There'll always be iconic in music, and certainly... | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
You know, my wife on countless occasions has | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
tried to make me get rid of my vinyl, but I lug box upon box of it | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
around and unlike yourself, I'm never going to get rid of it, Fiona. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
You say your wife tried to persuade you to get rid of all | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
your vinyl records. I did actually chuck out all my husband's records. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
He might not be too happy with me now. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
Do you know, we've had the most extraordinary things on the Roadshow. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
We've valued all sorts of unspeakable things - | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
monarch's underwear - | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
and here we are at Newstead and we've got a pair of boxing gloves. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
Explain. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:11 | |
Well, Byron was born with a deformed, or a damaged, right foot. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:18 | |
This deformity or damage that occurred at birth, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
-caused Byron to walk with a limp for the rest of his life. -Right. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
Now despite this - or possibly more likely because of it - | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
he became a great sportsman and his favourite sport was boxing. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
It was boxing. And he's boxing with gloves, because common people | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
fought with their fists, gentlemen fought with gloves. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
I know that Byron sparred with gloves that he called muffles. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
Muffles, and here they are. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
There are references in letters from Byron's servant, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
Joe Murray, to his lordship's boxing gloves being | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
stored in the great dining room along with the fencing equipment. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
And that's where you found them. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
Well, certainly that's where Thomas Wildman found them | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
when he bought Newstead from Byron in 1818. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
And he was a fellow, he was a colleague at school, wasn't he? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Yes, a good friend in fact, yes, yes. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
-And Byron learned boxing at school. -He did. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
-When he arrived at Harrow, inevitably he was bullied a bit. -Yes. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
He was taunted about his disability and being hot-tempered and proud, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
his immediate response was to give any of his tormentors a good | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
thrashing and very soon he got a reputation for his skills | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
in fighting and became a champion of the younger, weaker boys | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
who he protected from the bullies. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
-Absolutely splendid, and he always used them here. -Yes. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
And he did the most extraordinary things here at Newstead, didn't he? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
-He did, well, he... -I mean, he shot guns in the hall. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
He ran a bachelor residence here | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
and he had great fun in the years that he lived here | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
before his marriage. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:49 | |
He swam in the lake, he rode horses, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
he fenced, he was a great marksman, but his great passion was boxing, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
because as he said, he got the most exertion, it was the most | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
extreme exertion that he got from boxing and that was important to him, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
because in addition to survival tactics, for Byron, boxing provided | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
-a means of keeping fit and he was very obsessed with keeping fit. -Yes. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
These are hallowed relics. Not only did Byron's hands inhabit | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
-these gloves, wrote his poems with these hands... -Yes. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
..and everything else. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
They are as close as we can almost get to Byron. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
They're extremely personal, and look how tiny the hands are. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
Yes, they are, aren't they? Yes, little fingers. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
-Have you tried them on? -No, of course not! | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
I'd be tempted, but anyway, my hands are too big. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
It would be awfully exciting to try them on. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
It would, it would, it would. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:41 | |
-Now, you don't want me to value them. -Not allowed to. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
No, of course not, absolutely. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
I wouldn't dream of valuing them, I'm a bookseller, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
I'm in antiquarian books, why should I value gloves? | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
But let me tell you, I'm interested in memorabilia | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
and signed memorabilia come to that. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
I suppose the only thing I can think of is a pair of Henry Cooper's | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
gloves, signed by Henry Cooper, £5,000. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
Impressive. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
Not signed by Byron, Newstead Abbey, couldn't be better, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:12 | |
on the Antiques Roadshow... | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
-I couldn't possibly tell you. -Thank you. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
Well, thank you for bringing them in. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
I know you didn't have far to come, but they're great. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
Well, here we have Neptune carved in this amazing shell, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
looking over this collection of cameos. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
How did you get to have so many cameos? | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
Well, the cameos belonged to my grandfather. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
I never met him because he died when my father was 16, in 1929, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
but this was his collection. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
My grandfather bought them at auction, I think. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
And they've always been in the family | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
and they were left to me in my father's will. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
Well, they really do show sort of a very male side to perhaps | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
collecting as far as jewellery's concerned, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
because way back in the Renaissance period, it was the fashion | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
and the thing to do, to build a huge collection of cameos, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
whether they be shell cameos, as we have the majority here, or even | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
cameos carved in agate, and leaders such as the Medicis over in Italy | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
were collecting these cameos to show that they had power and wealth. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
There was a big revival of cameos in the Victorian period because | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
they too were looking back to the Renaissance period for inspiration | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
in design and also back to the Classical period where they were | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
looking at the ancient cameos, also for inspiration in the jewellery. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
And the majority of the cameos that you have here | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
-are from the Victorian period. -Well, that would figure. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
And I think to see Neptune obviously carved in the shell, it just | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
brings home the fact that these cameos do come mainly from shells. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:52 | |
And it's a really very delicate and intricate way of producing | 0:36:52 | 0:36:58 | |
a wonderful picture within a shell or a hard stone. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Subject matters are always very important | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
when it comes down to cameos. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
So here we've got Hebe | 0:37:06 | 0:37:07 | |
and the figure of the eagle, which is actually representing Zeus, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:12 | |
so that's a very, very well carved cameo. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
You've got depth there, which is important, you've got an even colour | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
in the whiteness and very fine quality carving and then here, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
a chariot with the horses and the lovely delicate stars. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:27 | |
-I mean, what attention to detail to get that. -I know, I know. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
And then over here, this is an interesting one, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
-it's actually made out of lava. -Oh, right. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
Because during the Victorian period, of course, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
there was real interest in Mount Vesuvius and the cameos were | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
carved out of the lava and they come in a variety of colours. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
And we've got a lovely ram carved into this one here, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
-which of course will represent Aries. -Yes. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
Now I know that we've only got a few here on show, haven't we? | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
-That's right. -So how many have you got in your collection? | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
Well, erm...we've got 36. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
Well, if they are all as good a quality as this, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
and showing such a variety of subjects et cetera, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
then to a collector I think if you were to re-offer them | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
at auction, then I can see somebody paying in excess of possibly | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
-£2,500 to £3,000 for them. -Really? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
That's a lot. That's lovely. Thank you very much. Thank you. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
-But I'm not going to sell them. -No. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
This is an absolutely fantastically dynamic image, isn't it? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
A real battle scene, we've got tanks pushing in from there, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
German and Italian tanks, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
pushing down onto this line of very beleaguered gunners | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
manning their 25-pounder guns. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
It's by Terence Cuneo, who is one of the greatest | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
war artists of his generation. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
Can you tell me the action that it depicts? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
It's describing the Battle of Knightsbridge, which took | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
place on June 6th 1942. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
My regiment, the South Notts Hussars, had been given the order | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
to fight to the last man and the last round, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
and not to retire, so we knew we were fighting a last stand, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:13 | |
and this painting by Cuneo | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
is marking position after a long day's battle. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:22 | |
So this is actually a picture of an action that you fought in? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
I fought in that battle. I am in fact that man there. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
-You are that man there. -And the reason I say that, is because | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
the regiment was wiped out. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
By some miracle, I was the last man, virtually, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
and I fired the last round, and when Cuneo was commissioned to paint this, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:45 | |
he needed someone to tell him what it was about, and I spent many, many | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
hours with him, describing the situation which he later painted. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
-So you are the man that pulled the handle. -Yes. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
-Fired the gun. -Yes. -And did the round hit anything? -Yes, it did. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
That last round I fired, which was later than this, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
it was about six o'clock at night, did hit a Mark IV tank | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
and then this man standing at the side of me, was killed | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
because a German tank had come up behind us and fired a machinegun, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:17 | |
almost point blank, blasted him into the shield. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
And I took a deep breath and waited for mine. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
For some reason, it didn't fire and I survived and am still here. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
And so we can see on the extreme edge there, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
the artist has built up paint using a technique called impasto, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
to give the impression | 0:40:34 | 0:40:35 | |
that there's a great bang as the shot hits the tank | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
-and it fetched the turret off. -Exactly. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
Which is normally fairly terminal for most tanks. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
-And very close of course. -Yes. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
-Because by this time, the tanks were right upon us. -Yes. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
It's interesting that this is part of your story, it's also | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
part of mine, because I was in the South Notts Hussars as well. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Were you really? | 0:40:53 | 0:40:54 | |
I was, and I can remember being in the gun park at the drill hall | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
-in Bulwell, which is just down the road from here. -Indeed, yes. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
And Terence Cuneo came round to start to make | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
sketches of the guns, because we were still using the 25-pounder | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
in the 1970s because it was an excellent training gun, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
and I can remember the commanding officer coming round and saying, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
"Right. I need people to act as artist's models for the artist | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
"who is coming round," and there were three or four chaps | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
from my troop taken out who were placed by the artist | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
in the position that he wanted, round the gun | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
and he made his preliminary sketches from it. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
-Amazing. -I can remember for many years, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
sitting in armchairs conducting research in the officer's mess | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
into gin and tonic and fine wines, and this picture | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
always gazed down on us. I understand it's no longer there. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
That's correct, it now hangs proudly at the Queen's Royal Lancers | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
in Nottinghamshire Yeomanry Museum at Thoresby Courtyard, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Thoresby Park, which is about 20 miles from here. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
-So, it's still very much within Nottinghamshire. -Absolutely. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
The greatest feature of the picture for me, the bit I like, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
is his trademark of the little mouse. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
-Little mouse, firing... -And there he is, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
-he's got his own little 25-pounder. -There he is, yes. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
If I'm any judge of the matter, I think he's been fairly | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
successful from that pile of burning wreckage there. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
I said that Cuneo was perhaps the greatest military | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
painting artist of his age and as a result of that, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
his pictures are very, very much sought after. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
If you had to buy this, this is between somewhere £30,000-£40,000. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:28 | |
It is a fantastic painting | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
and it's just wonderful to see it here at Newstead today. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you very much indeed. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
We've thoroughly enjoyed our day here in the glorious | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
gardens of Newstead Abbey, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
but I wonder if you've noticed some noises off while we've been filming. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
-That piercing cry you might... -DISTANT SQUAWKING | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
Like...like that, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
is not one of our experts exclaiming at some marvellous object | 0:42:49 | 0:42:54 | |
placed before them. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
It's the peacocks who are wandering around, looking gorgeous, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
but apparently they're vicious, so I've been giving them a wide berth. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
From all of us here at Newstead Abbey, until next time, bye-bye. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 |