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Mary Queen of Scots is well known for her turbulent life, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
but what you may not know is that she was also | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
one of the first women to regularly play golf. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
It's said that when she arrived in St Andrews in the 1560s, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
she brought along her own set of golf clubs - | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
in fact, she brought them from France, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
where she'd learned as a child. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Now, I've not played golf before, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
but I'm on the world's most famous golf course, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
so I'm going to give it a go. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
Oh. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
Well, I think Tiger Woods can rest easy. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
Welcome to a second round of the Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
from St Andrews in Scotland, the home of golf. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
When Mary Queen of Scots lived in France | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
as a member of the Royal Family, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
she had military cadets to carry her golf clubs for her, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
and it's thought that when she came to Scotland, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
she brought the practice with her, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
and the term "cadet" evolved into the word "caddy". | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
But Mary Queen of Scots' love of golf | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
also placed her at the heart of a scandal. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
In 1567, Mary's husband - | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
Lord Darnley - was murdered. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
Now there was much speculation at the time | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
that she was involved in his murder, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:57 | |
not helped by the fact that she was apparently seen playing golf | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
just a few days later. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:02 | |
So, not too bothered by what had happened to him, then. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
This is the oldest of seven golf courses here. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
I wonder if they're dusting down the trophies | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
ready for the Antiques Roadshow, which we're holding | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
in St Salvator's quad in St Andrews University. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
Do you know what this is? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
Not really. I think it's Japanese. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
It was given to me by my mother about 20 years ago. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
She likes going to charity shops - | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
still does - and anything with an animal on it she would give me, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
usually wooden elephants and china ducks, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
and she gave me this, and I thought it was different, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
but it was all broken, the piece of string was broken. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
It was 50 pence, so... | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
-50 pence? -Yes. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
I think it is just the most magical object. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
-Really? -Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
-Good. -This is an inro. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
-Right. -Japanese - you were right - | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
and the Japanese used to carry small objects around in there - | 0:02:55 | 0:03:01 | |
seals, medicines... | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
-Oh, right. -..spices, that sort of thing. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
-Right. -You then come through the cord, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
which you've got more or less right there, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
to the ojime, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
which actually tensions that. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
-Right. -Now, it won't on yours, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
because the cord's too thin. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
Right. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
You need a thicker cord. And then up to the netsuke. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
And the whole thing is worn like that. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
Oh, right, so you actually walked about with it. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Now, I strongly suspect - | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
I mean, we're dealing with a time in Japan in the 19th century... | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
Right. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
..when the Samurai have been stopped | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
from fighting one another. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:42 | |
So you had 200 years of peace. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
Right. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
The economy's quite strong, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:47 | |
there are not an awful lot of people, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
so they turned to making show-off objects... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
-Oh, I see. -..which the Samurai can wear about his person, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
and inro were one of those. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Right. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:00 | |
It's basically lacquer. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Oh, I thought it was plastic, actually, so...lacquer, right. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
Well, in a sense you're right, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
because lacquer could be considered a form of plastic. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
It isn't. It's actually the sap of the rhus tree. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:19 | |
Right. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
And it comes out of the tree as deadly poisonous, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
and all the people who work with it, at that stage, die an early death. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
Goodness me. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
It's then processed, and they paint it onto food dishes, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
wine holders, cups, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
bowls, and at that stage it's inert, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
and it lent itself to artistic use. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
Now, here the maker has made | 0:04:46 | 0:04:53 | |
a netsuke in the form of a house, or hut, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:59 | |
inlaid with a soapstone plaque and an inscription. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:05 | |
I've never seen that before. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
Right. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
Very, very unusual. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
But the real joy is the inro itself | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
and this fantastic | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
lobster, crayfish. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
It's beautiful, isn't it? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Yeah, and only the Japanese would have thought to do something | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
literally eccentric - off centre. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
-In Europe, oh, no, we'd have to balance it with another one. -Yeah. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
It's an absolutely staggering object. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
It's possibly by one of the greatest lacquer artists | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
-of the late 19th century... -Good grief. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
..Shibata Zeshin, but I don't know whether it is. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
I'd have to go and do a bit of work on it. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Even if it's not, it's worth £3,000 to £5,000. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
-And if it's Zeshin, I don't think I dare tell you. -Right. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
It's a really fantastic thing. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
I'm really glad I brought it. Thank you. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Well, this artist occasionally went in for stained glass windows | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and, do you know, looking at this, you can really see that. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
What colours! | 0:06:07 | 0:06:08 | |
I mean, that rainbow is extraordinarily vivid | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
and in terrific condition. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
It looks as though it's hardly seen the light of day. Has it? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
-No, it's not seen the light of day for quite a while. -Ah. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
It was found behind a wardrobe in my late father's house. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
-Really? -Yeah. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:25 | |
It's quite a thing, isn't it? Now what's going on in it? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
I mean, she's quite gloomy, but wonderfully romantic. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
There's an angel presenting a baby, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
holding what seem to be little posies of flowers | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
and she's at the bottom of a chasm | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
with some dark water and some trees, very symbolic strange trees, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
and weird figures here. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
And some kind of sort of citadel, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
almost, at the top of the gorge there, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
-and a signature - which is useful to me, always. -Right. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
Eleanor Fortescue-Brickdale, England, around 1900. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
Now, she uses body colour, | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
which, incidentally, is when you mix watercolour | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
with Chinese white, and it's a thickening agent - | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-it's a bit like putting flour in gravy, you know? -Right. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
And what it does, also, is it enables the watercolour | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
to become opaque instead of transparent, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
because normally when you just put watercolour on, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
it's completely like a wash. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
If you put quite a lot of Chinese white in it, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
you get this thickening here, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
-and you see how bright it is, as a result... -Yes. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
..in the posies, and I think she's used | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
a little bit of it in the rainbow, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
-just to pick it out and bring it away. -Yeah. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
And there's quite a lot of white here to suggest | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
the mistiness that this angel - | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
-the vision - seems to be coming out of. -Yes. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
She also designed her own frames. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
The original frame for this would have looked quite extraordinary, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
lots of swirly gold, quite thick, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
and often they get taken off the pictures, to put mirrors in | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
in the days when people thought this sort of thing was rubbish. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
-Not so long ago, really. -Right. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
-Do you like it? -I do. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I think it's fascinating, yeah. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
Mysterious, and there is a family connection. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
The lady in the painting is very much like a young version of my mother. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:05 | |
-Really? -Which is perhaps why my father hid it after my mother died. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
It's amazing what an emotional charge pictures can acquire | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
over the years, isn't it? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
Well, of course, at the time this was done, you know, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
there were all sorts of strange ideas about mediums | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
and reaching the other side, and there were... | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
the theosophists were going and well, you know, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
there's a lot of belief in spiritualism and mediums. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
And this comes through in her work particularly. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
There's always this very strong symbolism in them, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
and not always easy to disentangle now and understand ourselves. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
-Right. -But all we can see is this very beautiful thing. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
I don't mind that it's melancholic and rather sad, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
because it's absolutely vivid like a jewel. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
Right, yeah. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Brilliantly done, superb condition. I absolutely love it. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Pity it's lost its frame. That would have helped. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
But actually, even just in this modern frame, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
it's still worth £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Right, really? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Extraordinary. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
It was given to me about 30 years ago | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
by a friend who was emigrating to Australia. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Too big to take with him and I'd known it - | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
he told me it was a guava bowl, belonged to his grandfather. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
His grandfather was a colonial agricultural advisor | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
and he'd brought it back from somewhere. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
-Fantastic. -So this friend - | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
he's the same age as I am, about 65, so if you work back, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
must be about the '20s or '30s when he brought it home | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
-from wherever he was an agricultural advisor in some colony. -Gosh. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
Well, I'm so glad you brought it, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
and what a story, and what a gift to get. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
-Yes. -I'll put matters to rest. This is for kava drinking. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
Kava, and kava was a drink taken throughout the South Pacific, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
particularly, obviously, the numerous Polynesian islands | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
such as Samoa, Fiji, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
and a big bowl like this is big enough | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
to be used by, basically, the whole community. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
But the drink's fascinating, it's actually - | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
it's derived from the root of the kava bush, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
known as a Piper methisticum. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
And they harvested the root. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Traditionally young men would chew the roots | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
and it would give a mildly sort of sedative, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
state of euphoric sort of feeling. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
The roots were then put in a bowl like this, mixed with water, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
to create a drink that the whole community could enjoy. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
Sounds a bit of fun, doesn't it? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
It does. Was it fermented, was it potent, was it alcoholic? | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
-I believe so. I've never brewed it myself! -Right. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
I'd love to try it. But it obviously had a bit of a punch, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
and I think this would be really a very important central item | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
to that ritual, and what's lovely about this piece is, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
it's made of hard wood, but from one big chunk of wood. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
By the shape of the bowl, the shape of the angles, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
and also particularly the addition of the sea shells, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
I think this is from the island of Fiji. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
Yes, that does ring a bell, now, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
as soon as you mentioned Fiji. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
I believe he did say Fiji. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
So it's a kava bowl. In Fiji it's called a yaqona. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
Communal drinking. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
What's it worth? | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
I think because of the provenance you've given it, in a sale, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
a specialist sale of this kind of material, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
you could anticipate an auction estimate | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
-of £2,000 to £3,000. -What?! | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
That's amazing. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
My father served in the Second World War | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
and one of the nights that they were bivouacking, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
they were bivouacking in a small village | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
and it was maybe a toy shop - I'm not certain which - | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
very close to where he parked, and he was looking in the window | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
and they wondered what he was up to, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
making sure he wasn't going to rob them or something, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
and they had all these toys and he bartered with them, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
and came away with these. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
And he boxed them up and somehow | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
the army got it shipped back to me | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
and I got them when I was five years old, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
and you can look at them and see that I've played with them readily. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Exactly. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
They were meant to be played with and they were played with. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
So which part of Europe was your father in? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
Well, he was in Germany and then in Czechoslovakia and Austria. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
-Right. -But I have no idea which country he was in | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
when he acquired these. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
OK, well the bulk of the toys that you have here | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
is made by a company called Hauser, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
and they started in business | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
right back in about 1910, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
and what that company is perhaps best known for, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
apart from these toys showing the military power of Germany | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
leading up to the Second World War, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
is that they invented a type of material | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
for making toy soldiers, and that material, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
they trademarked the name, and it's Elastolin. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
And it was a mixture of paste on a wire armature, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
so inside here there is wire - | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
and occasionally, on badly damaged soldiers, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
you can see that peeping through - and the scale was important. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
They created soldiers that were 7 or 7.5 centimetres, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
so that was really quite a breakthrough. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
And the use of this natural material | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
got away from the use of lead or tin | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
which is, of course, what soldiers were made of beforehand, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
so that's perhaps what Hauser is best known for. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
The figures themselves, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
because of the ease with which this paste could be moulded, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
it meant that, in fact, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
particular individuals could be made out of Elastolin, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
and in fact, if we look round, we've got the figure of Hitler, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
and it was quite normal of what a young German boy | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
in 1934, '35, '36, '37, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
leading up to the war, would have wanted. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
And in that hobby shop, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:04 | |
in one of the countries that your father was in, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
that's where they were sitting and waiting. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
I wonder what he bartered with. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
What did he give them - cigarettes, or...? | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
Well, my dad said that it was cigarettes and chocolate | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
and other paraphernalia. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Now, I don't know what the other paraphernalia was, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
but at any rate, he parted with some of that stuff, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
and I was very fortunate in getting this. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
I mentioned that most of these are made by a company called Hauser. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
The exception, in fact, is this aeroplane here | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
which is made by a company called Tipp and Company, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
and you can see it's got the initials TC on there, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
which is a good clue. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
This, I have to say, is a complete stranger. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
This is a much more contemporary model. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
It doesn't date from the same period. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
But looking at all this, did it in any way inspire your future? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
Well, the answer to that is yes, because what I did is | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
I joined the Navy when I was 17 years old. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
I was very fortunate and I came up through the ranks | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
and eventually became an officer | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
and then I became a fighter pilot. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
I served in Vietnam, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
and my father served in the Second World War, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
and my uncle served in the Korean War. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Our daughter is a Daughter of the Revolution, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
and so it just goes on and on. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
We're kind of warriors. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
I did 221 combat missions | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
in North Vietnam. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
I was engaged in a dog fight with two Vietnamese Migs, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
and I'm happy to say I'm here today. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
It's Tom Cruise! | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
THEY LAUGH Because, because... | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
well, they did model him after me! | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Yeah, exactly, I can see that! | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
And from there, I went on, and it was the aviation career, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
and I can trace it back to all these things. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
That it just kept spawning my interest, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
and I became a test pilot | 0:15:53 | 0:15:54 | |
after a while as well, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
and so I did that for eight or nine years. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
Brilliant! | 0:15:59 | 0:16:00 | |
And met my child-like bride and we settled in St Andrews. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
And here you are! Well, it just goes to show, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
you have to be careful the toys you give to your kids! | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
Yes! CROWD LAUGHS | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
As far as value's concerned, I mean, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
the first thing to say | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
is that with toys, they kind of can only give once. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
-Yeah. -You know, you either enjoy them for the toy value, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
and you get that pleasure from them, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
or you keep them in their original boxes | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
and you get the pleasure later. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
You kind of got the pleasure early on, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
but I'm sure that we're talking about | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
a couple of thousand pounds. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
It's a good collection, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
not in great condition. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
-No. That's OK. -But the fact that it led you onto that career... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
it's brilliant. Thanks very much indeed. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
Thanking you. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
St Andrews is always considered as the home of golf, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
and I think it dates back to...I think 1754-55, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
that sort of period. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
But soon after, the Crail Club, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
which you are a member and the secretary of, was founded. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
What actual date was that? | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
1786. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
They were playing golf in Crail | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
for a good bit before that, but no records exist. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
So the first minute book dates from 1786. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
So probably one of the first six or seven | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
oldest golf clubs in the world? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
Oh, yes, indeed. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
You know, and before 1830, there were only a handful of clubs | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
existed in the world. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:18 | |
As you say, about a dozen, maybe, and we're the seventh oldest. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
And so it was formed in 1786 by 11 gentlemen of Crail. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:27 | |
They were all landlords and gentlemen farmers in Crail and the East Neuk, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
and by the time of 1831, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
one of the local landowners, who became Lord Lindsay of Wormiston, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
thought it was inappropriate, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
as it says in the minutes, inappropriate | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
that a society of such standing | 0:17:46 | 0:17:47 | |
did not have a medal to play for. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
So he donated the Lindsay medal. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
So way back in those days, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:56 | |
it wasn't anybody who could join the society. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
You had to be a gentleman. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Yes, they were quite selective | 0:18:01 | 0:18:02 | |
because it was quite an expensive sport. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
And not only was the equipment expensive, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
in terms of the golf clubs and the golf balls, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
but you would be fined if you didn't attend the dinners | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
and you could not...in one of the minutes it says | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
you could not absent yourself from the drinking | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
under the pretence of taking tea. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
HE LAUGHS So it was very much a social game. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
So what's the earliest one you have here? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
So the earliest one is the Lindsay medal, as I say, 1831. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
And there are only a handful of golf medals | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
that are older than this. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
And, indeed, all these medals | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
would have been worn with a ribbon | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
on their uniforms at the dinners. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
Now, what makes the Lindsay medal very unusual | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
is it was won by Allan Robertson, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
the world's first golf professional, in 1855. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Now, when the medal was donated, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
it was specifically stated that it would be an open competition. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
It would be open to all gentlemen, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
and Allan Robertson, being a golf professional, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
-of course, fancies his chances. -Yep. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
Travelled down from St Andrews to Crail | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
and duly won it, in 1855. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
It was only two years later that he died, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
so I believe his name won't be on many trophies at all, if any. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
So there's some fabulous names | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
engraved either on the trophies, or on the plates afterwards, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
like Captain Bruce, the Governor of Jamaica, and so on. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
Good. Well, they obviously belong to the club. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
-They're never going to sell them. -Oh, absolutely not, no! | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
We have to think about insurance, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
because these things obviously need to be insured. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
Without a doubt, the most important one is the earlier one. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
And if we just turn it over, we can see that... | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
I think you can just see there, it's the date, 1855, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
and the name of the professional, Allan Robertson, there, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
so it's definitely won by him, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
and something like that would command a substantial price | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
if it should ever go to auction. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
But for insurance purposes, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:09 | |
I think we'll talk about | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
somewhere in the region of about | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
£15,000 to £18,000 for this one here. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
And for the two smaller ones and slightly later ones, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
probably around about £7,500 to £8,000. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
So we're probably talking about £25,000-£30,000 | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
as an insurance figure for the collection. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
Well, I'm relieved that they're kept in the bank, then! | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
CROWD LAUGHS | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
This is a lovely, lovely portrait, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
this girl with the dog. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
I mean, it just, it ticks every box as being a very commercial picture. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
I see down here | 0:20:43 | 0:20:44 | |
that it's signed Cyrus Johnson, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
and I think it's indistinctly dated 1887. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Cyrus was my great-great-uncle. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
OK, and you've brought along a photograph. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
-I've brought the photograph of my grandparents' wedding. -Yes. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Because my understanding is that the picture | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
was a wedding present to my grandparents, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
who were actually married in 1898, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
so it was painted before that. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
-I don't know what happened to it before that. -OK. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
And Cyrus himself is here. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Looking very, very happy at the wedding. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
-Yes, looking very much at his nephew. -Well, you wonder, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
as he gave it as a present, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
that it might be a member of the family in the distant past. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
What I know about Cyrus Johnson | 0:21:22 | 0:21:23 | |
is that later on he went to do miniatures, didn't he? | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
He did a lot of miniature paintings | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
and he exhibited those at the Royal Academy. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
-And was he born in Cambridge? -Yes, yes. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
And he worked in London | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
and exhibited at the Royal Academy. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
And here we've got a really lovely 1880s portrait | 0:21:35 | 0:21:41 | |
of a young girl holding what looks like a pug. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
-Yes. -Or a pooch, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
and when you get to the commercial side of this, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
dogs sell pictures, they really do. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
People love them, and especially that type of dog, pooch dogs. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
-Right. -And I think it's lovely. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
And the way it's been painted, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
when you look at her face glancing sideways and the looseness, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
this is very indicative of the period it's been painted in. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
The looseness, almost Impressionistic, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
the way the background has been done, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
and he's concentrated on the face. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
And on panel and in a very original condition. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
You've got the original frame, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
and considering it's been in your family for a long time, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
I suppose that's the reason it's in such good condition. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
We come to put a value on this. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
I think that it's so commercial... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
I mean, he's not an artist that always makes a lot of money, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
but I think this one, because of the dog, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
would be worth somewhere in the region | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
of £6,000 to £8,000. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Mmm. Mmm, lovely. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
This is a really pretty box. It is in fact a tea caddy. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
Where did you get it from? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
My aunt bought it, about 1950, I think. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
And handed down to you? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
-Yes. -I see. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
Well, there's something | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
a little bit surprising about this, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
because at first sight you might think it was made in London, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
or even in France, because it's got Edwardian-style decoration, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
these swags on the front and the sides in the Neo-Classical style, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
very typical of the late 19th century, early 20th century. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
And if we open it up, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
we can see it's silver-gilt inside... | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
..and the tea was kept extra fresh by that inner liner. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:29 | |
But the surprising thing about this is, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
is if we turn it upside down... | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
..it's got some very good marks here. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-Has it? -And there's one particularly important mark. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
Have you any idea what it is? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
Well, I thought that the characters looked Russian, but I'm not sure. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:53 | |
Well, it is Russian, and it's got the most famous maker's mark | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
that you're ever likely to find in Russia, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
that of Carl Faberge. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:01 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
And this was made in the 1890s in Moscow, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
and because it's Faberge, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
it makes it far more interesting | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
than any other bit of Russian silver. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Now, there is good news and bad news about Faberge. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
His mark has been faked more than any other mark. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
-Oh. -And it's been faked for decades. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
Oh. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:27 | |
There's also some good news. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
-This is absolutely genuine. -Oh, it is! Oh. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
Oh. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
It's a little beauty. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
Wow. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
And a lovely piece of Faberge like this | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
is going to be sought after in many, many countries. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
-Mm-hm. -So we have to now put a figure on it. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
If I said £8,000 to £10,000, would that make you happy? | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
You're darned right! | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, absolutely amazing. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
My aunt had a good eye, obviously. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
She had two good eyes! | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
Last time we visited this area, back in 2009 in nearby Dundee, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
a visitor brought along a remarkable letter | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
from the First World War. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
Remember this? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
These refer to my grandmother's brother. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
His name was Bernard Douglas Taylor. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
This is him? | 0:25:21 | 0:25:22 | |
That's him, yes. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Was he a Friend, was he a Quaker? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
He was a Quaker. The whole family | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
turned Quaker before the First World War. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
And once the war had started, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:31 | |
he helped out with other conscientious objectors and so on. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
When the time came for his drafting, he appeared before a panel | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
and pleaded his case for not having to join the military. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
What's this dated? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
1916 it looks like, from the postmark. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
Oh, it's a letter to him. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
Oh, oh my... | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
Oh, goodness me. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:54 | |
It's a white feather. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
It's a white feather. As in the Four Feathers film. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
It says, "Noble sir, if you are too proud or frightened" - | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
underlined - "to fight, wear this". | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
-He obviously was a man of great deep beliefs. -Absolutely. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
But how must he have felt when he received this? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
I think from what I've read of his background that he would have | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
accepted it as an example of how human beings can | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
look upon each other, and feel sad and sorry, perhaps, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
for the person who wrote it. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Well, that's an interesting perspective, isn't it, I suppose? | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
And I have to say that I've never seen another | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
-white feather letter, ever. -Yes. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
Because I doubt whether anybody kept them. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
I would have thought that... | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 | |
I think most people would have been very anxious | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
-to get rid of them completely, very quickly. -Exactly. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
I actually feel quite privileged to be able to see it - | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
it's quite incredible. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
Now Martin, who brought in that letter, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
has returned to the programme, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
-so Martin, lovely to see you again. -Nice to see you. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
We had quite a response to that item on the programme. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
I just wanted to share some of the letters and the e-mails we got. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
Very different, and we had a chap who'd been in the RAF | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
who felt that we shouldn't really have been - | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
he felt we were celebrating the feather and the letter - | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
and said it was shameful then, it was an act of cowardice then, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
and it's just as cowardly now. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
Then, on the other hand, we had other letters who felt | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
quite the reverse, actually - a lot of sympathy for your great-uncle, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
and there was one person who wrote in and said, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
"It was particularly significant to me, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
"as my grandmother's youngest brother was a strapping | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
"thirteen and a half-year-old, but he looked much older | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
"than his years, and he kept being given white feathers, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
"which upset him so greatly, in fact, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
"he enlisted and lied about his age." | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
So he went in and served in the war far younger | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
-than he should have done. -I think many did, in fact, yes. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
So we had very different responses. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
-I don't know - what do you think about that? -I don't know. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
My grandmother's brother, he was a Quaker, a pacifist, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
and very, very sincere in his beliefs but, as in the programme, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
I said that he went to France later to try and do even more | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
for the Quakers War Victims Relief Association. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
What have you done with the letter? What's happened to it subsequently? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
I thought others should be able to see it and learn more | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
about the background of my grandmother's brother, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
and so I donated it to the Imperial War Museum in London. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
Well I understand that the Imperial War Museum, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
which is planning its centenary | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
for the start of the First World War very soon, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
is planning to put your uncle's letter in their exhibition | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
-for other people to see. -I was unaware of that. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Yes, they did say at the time that any exhibition which included | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
the letter, they would let me know. So far they haven't, but... | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
Well, that's the idea and it will be there for everyone to see. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
That's great. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
And your uncle's story will be told all over again. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
I'm very glad of that. Thanks for letting me know. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
-That's wonderful. -Thanks, Martin. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
Well, we've got a bit of a dark and overcast day here today | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
in St Andrews, but this would brighten anybody's day, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
so how did it come to be in your collection? | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Well, it was given to me by my mother round about 1986, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
and it came to her from an aunt round about 1944. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
-It was always known as Aunt Kate's brooch. -Right. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
Yes. Aunt Kate's brooch. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
And did you used to go and look in the jewellery box | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
and take it out and admire it? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
-I think it was in the bank. -Oh! -I'm pretty sure it was in the bank. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Yes, safely under lock of key, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
which of course with a piece like this is probably essential. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Yes. But my grandfather actually was the only boy in the family | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
and he had about eight sisters and I think they all wanted it, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
so it caused a bit of trouble in the past. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
-Oh no, oh no. -Yes, they all wanted it. -Oh, that's a shame. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
Sometimes jewellery can do that - it can cause so much love, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
but also jealousy as well. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:43 | |
-And do you actually wear it? -I've worn it once to a wedding. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
I'm terrified of losing it. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
Well, it is important that we do wear our jewellery | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
and, of course, look after it as well, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
but it's... The family history that you've given fits in perfectly, | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
because it actually originally dates from round about 1870-1880. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
And it's set with what we call old brilliant-cut diamonds, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
which are a cut which has got a nice softness to it, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
they look a little bit cushion-like and they give off this beautiful | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
bright shininess to the stones, they're really absolutely adorable. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
Set in a flower head setting, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
as we have here, which again was very traditional of jewellery | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
produced in the Victorian period. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
It was a very romantic time as far as jewellery's concerned | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
and flowers were a way of expressing true love. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
The diamonds have been set in what we call collet mounts | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
so it's rather like a little collar which is securing | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
the rather large centre stone that we have there. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
One of the ways that we value diamonds is by looking at what | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
we know as the four Cs, and it's the colour, the cut, the clarity | 0:30:52 | 0:30:58 | |
and, of course, the carat size, which is very important | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
when it comes to valuing diamonds. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
Now, here we're looking at something that is somewhere between 4.5 | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
and 5 carats in size, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
and on the outer sides we've got individual stones | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
which are about 50 to 60 points, so just over half a carat. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
So in total, we've got somewhere between eight and nine carats' worth | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
-of diamonds, which is really quite fantastic, isn't it? -It's amazing. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
Fabulous. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
Looking at the colour of them, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:31 | |
they've got a lovely whiteness to them, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
there's not too much yellow coming off the stones, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
so they're good quality colour diamonds as well. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
And the clarity, which is the internal condition of the stone - | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
they are very good, so all in all, it's really quite a stunning brooch. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
Now, of course, something like this is just amazing | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
and highly collectible as well. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
Not just because of the fact that it's a very well made | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
and interesting piece of Victorian jewellery, which sums up that | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
very sentimental side of jewellery during the period, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
but of course because of the carat weight of diamonds. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
And if this came up for auction, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
it is easily going to get | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
somewhere between £10,000 and £15,000. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
Really? | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
Oh! That's just amazing. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
A fabulous bit of jewellery, I think, I absolutely treasure it. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
This is a really pretty Chinese bowl. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
What brings it up to St Andrews? | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
My mother had it | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
when she lived in Jersey - | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
I have no idea how she got it. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
Well, it is a very interesting bowl. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
It's, as I said, it's Chinese, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
but it's really quite old. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
This dates to the middle of the 17th century. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
What was going on then? | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
Thank God I kept it carefully! | 0:32:52 | 0:32:53 | |
Cromwell. But in China, more importantly, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
the Ming dynasty fell in 1644 and was replaced - | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
the Manchurians - the Manchu dynasty came in, known as the Qing dynasty | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
and they established themselves | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
-and they moved into the Imperial Palaces. -Yes. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
This type of bowl is usually referred to as an Immortals bowl. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
We've got a little character here, this is Shu-lau, you can tell this, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
he's got a great big forehead, he's holding a sceptre. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
He certainly has. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
And he's usually accompanied by a crane or a deer, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
so if we look on this bowl, there'll be a crane and a deer. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
You might see them before I do. There. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
-There's the deer. -There's the deer, these are attributes of Shu-lau | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
so we've got the eight Taoist immortals and Shu-lau. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
What makes this bowl special, though, is what's on the bottom. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
It's a very unusual mark, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
it was made for a specific place in one of the Imperial Palaces. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
It says, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:47 | |
"made in the antique style for the Pavilion of Moral Obligations". | 0:33:47 | 0:33:54 | |
Oh, dear! | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
The Pavilion of Moral Obligations. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
Well, I do sometimes do some of my moral obligations. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
-I don't know if you've been to the Forbidden City? -Yes, I have. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
-1982, it was just opened. -Fantastic. You didn't try and count the rooms? | 0:34:09 | 0:34:15 | |
No. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
There were allegedly - I may not be right - | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
over 8,600 rooms in that palace alone. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
-Yes. -And there are other palaces. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
I don't know anything about this particular pavilion. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
It's probably possible to find out. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:27 | |
But it is a very unusual bowl. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
-It's very, very interesting and very exciting to see it. -Good. -Um... | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
It does have a problem. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:37 | |
There is a crack, very faint. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
I thought I heard a slight ping when you did that. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
Doesn't sound too bad, but there is still a crack there, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
it's about a two-inch crack, very clean in the rim. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
So I suppose it's only worth, maybe... | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
£10,000 or £12,000. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
Oh, that's very unkind of you. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
Take away the noise and we'll put it up a bit. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
There's a bit of a buzz going round the Roadshow, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
cos apparently a rather important collection has come in. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
Geoffrey Munn is going to be looking at this assortment here | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
of Royal memorabilia, I guess you could call it. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
He's very excited about it, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:23 | |
so excited he's insisted that we put it under this very special | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
Antiques Roadshow pagoda, we're calling it, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
because - actually, we've been quite lucky so far - | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
but there is the odd spot of rain. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
Anyway, the owner doesn't know very much about it, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
Geoffrey thinks it's significant. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
I wonder what he's going to say. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
Well, this book has no words, but it does have | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
about 200 exceptional hand-coloured engravings. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
-Do you know where it's come from? -It was my great-great-grandmother's | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
and it was just handed down in the family. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
-Do you know who it's by? -Buffon - am I right? | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
Yeah, absolutely, spot on. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
It's actually only half the plates from Buffon's work on birds. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
-Right. -So we've got 200 wonderful hand-coloured plates here | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
of all sorts of birds. They are in fact titled in French. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
And the engravings are by Martinet, or Martinette, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
and that's all that the book actually tells you. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
So we've got to have a look through | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
and see some of these wonderful coloured illustrations. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
-The colour is all hand done, and you can see it's really vibrant. -Yeah. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
It's as fresh as it was done back in 1770-1780 - | 0:36:29 | 0:36:34 | |
something of that sort of date - the late 18th century. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
Mm. How has it kept its colour so well? | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
-Well, I think it's been closed up. -Yes, that's true! | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
-And not much looked at, is my guess. -Yes. -Keep it away from the sun. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
-Yes. -And then the colour will survive. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
We have here an image of the Great Bustard. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
I think just being re-introduced into this country. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
-I understand that. -Salisbury Plain, isn't that correct? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
We've got a water bird, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:02 | |
a puffin or something like it. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
A lot of those round here. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
Indeed, and one of my favourites, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
the toucan. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
-Yes. -Always a superb picture. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
Other good pictures include parrots. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
-The parrots are at the end. -Some of those at the back. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
Here's a green parrot | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
and a grey parrot. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
-Have you been all the way through it? -I have, yes. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
Somebody once suggested that we remove all the pages | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
and make them into pictures, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
-which of course I declined. -You haven't done. -No. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
Well, that's very honourable of you, very laudable. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
That would have made quite a lot of money that way. Sorry! | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
-It's the way we have to value them, as a price-per-plate, I think. -Yes. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
-So, my calculation says 200 very fine hand-coloured engravings. -Yes. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:54 | |
Auction price at least £10 a plate, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
so somewhere between £2,000 - | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
possibly up to - £3,000. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
It actually belongs to my son. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
My mother left it to one of our children. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
-So he's going to inherit it. -So I hope he doesn't watch this programme, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
cos he's rather keen on money! | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
So it seems that St Andrews really couldn't get any more royal, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
but here we are, surrounded by royal memorabilia. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
To be frank, it was hard to arrange it all on the table | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
and every single one of them is a fascinating souvenir | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
of the British Royal Family going back really about 120 years. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
But they've fallen to you - and how did that happen? | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Well, it was all given to my husband when he was young. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
They lived next door, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
and were very friendly with two elderly ladies who in fact | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
had been brought up at Sandringham when Edward VII lived there. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
Their father was private secretary to Princess Victoria | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
and bit by bit, they gave him things, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
and when we married, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
-we were given the plate and various other things. -Marvellous! | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
Well, they are true souvenirs, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
there are specimens of royal handwriting here, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
which of course is the most ghostly of all, isn't it? | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
I mean, handwriting - a real autograph - | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
is a very exciting object to have and it says, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
"Her Royal Highness the Princess Victoria at Sandringham". | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
And then there are photographs of Queen Maud of Norway. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
It seems really the focus are on | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
-the children of King Edward VII, aren't they? -That's right. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
And these are intensely personal objects, there's a little dance card | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
here from Sandringham in eau-de-nil coloured card, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
and its original pencil held in with a silk tassel | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
and as you whirled round the dance floor, you made notes of who | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
you were going to dance with next. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
Tell me what you know about the tortoise. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
An inkwell that was given as a present to Princess Victoria | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
and it's I believe tortoiseshell. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Tortoiseshell and it's a sort of tortoiseshell box, really, isn't it? | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
Oh, it is an inkwell, of course it is! | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
And it says quite plainly on the front "Her Royal Highness | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
"Princess Victoria of Wales, July 6th 1885", | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
and it's a beautiful object, an amusing object, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
it's a pun on tortoiseshell. And how to value it - I don't know, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
because there are dozens and dozens of pieces of plate here | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
from an Imperial Russian Service with the cipher | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
of Alexander III on it, and tell me about the leather cigar box. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
That belonged to Edward VII. It came with the other things. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
Marvellous, made of leather in a 17th-century taste. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
But how to value them? Bits of paper, photographs, but I think | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
the most astonishing thing I've got to tell you is that this collection | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
is not worth - you know - perhaps three or four hundred pounds... | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
-No. -But I think my estimation of it is that it's worth £12,000. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
Good grief! LAUGHTER | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
Yes, right. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:44 | |
-And would you like to know why? -Yes. Yes, indeed! -Yes, you would. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
Because there is one object in here that positively radiates royal, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
-not only royal, but imperial majesty. -Ah, yes. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
And I think you can probably guess from what I've said, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
it's the stick pin here and the hint of its majestic power is that | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
it's made of red leather and it has the twinned imperial eagle | 0:41:06 | 0:41:11 | |
of the Russian - of the Romanovs, frankly. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
And it has no hint of the supplier's name in the lid, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
but when I was looking at it earlier, I took a lens to the pin | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
and there's a tiny, tiny fugitive little mark that says | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
"AT". Now, "AT" doesn't seem to add up terribly well either, does it? | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
No, except that old bossy boots here knows that AT was a work master | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
to the most famous goldsmith that ever lived, to Carl Faberge, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
and so this is a Faberge stick pin decorated in two colours of gold | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
with the Romanov eagle with a tiny sapphire | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
and a triumphal laurel | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
and we have to now guess when this is likely to have been given. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
And it's easier than you might think. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
And the most significant time that the Tsar came to Sandringham, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
where the Princesses were living, was in 1893 | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
when he came to visit Queen Victoria | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
to tell her that he wanted to marry her granddaughter | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
-who was Princess Alix of Hesse. -Ah, right, yes. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
And he needed her permission for that marriage, and as he went, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
-he strew his way, STREW his way with stick pins. -Right! | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
He actually... I knew earlier and I recognised this instantly. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
Right. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:24 | |
Because when he got off the train at Wolferton, for Sandringham, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
he gave the station master an almost identical pin. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
-Oh, right. -..which I saw 25 years ago. -Oh, goodness. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
And so I knew what this was, and I stalked you, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
and I think I've done it quite well, if you don't mind me saying so! | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
-Yes, very well! -How's your heart? Mine's nearly... | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
So £12,000 for the entire collection. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
£10,000 for a Faberge stick pin with an imperial provenance, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
and you can't ask for a royal object to be more than that. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
But curiously enough, what's in a name? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
These other things are just as valuable, but it's not about money. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
-No, no. No. -No, it's very, very touching, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
these are little ghosts | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
that are ebbing ever so slightly away from us. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
Very few people know who these people are | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
and now we've got a chance to show them | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
in a town of royal, deeply royal significance, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
and I couldn't be more pleased, so thank you so much. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
-Thank you. -It's been wonderful, wonderful. -Thank you. -Brilliant. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
Wonderful to see that collection of royal memorabilia, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
and of course here at St Andrews, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
which has that most recent of royal connections | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
with William and Kate - or Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
as I think we're supposed to call them now. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
We've had a wonderful day here in St Salvator's quad. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
I hope you've enjoyed it as well, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
until next time, from St Andrews, bye-bye. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 |