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Mary Queen of Scots is well known for her turbulent life,

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but what you may not know is that she was also

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one of the first women to regularly play golf.

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It's said that when she arrived in St Andrews in the 1560s,

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she brought along her own set of golf clubs -

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in fact, she brought them from France,

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where she'd learned as a child.

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Now, I've not played golf before,

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but I'm on the world's most famous golf course,

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so I'm going to give it a go.

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Oh.

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Well, I think Tiger Woods can rest easy.

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Welcome to a second round of the Antiques Roadshow

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from St Andrews in Scotland, the home of golf.

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BELL RINGS

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When Mary Queen of Scots lived in France

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as a member of the Royal Family,

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she had military cadets to carry her golf clubs for her,

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and it's thought that when she came to Scotland,

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she brought the practice with her,

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and the term "cadet" evolved into the word "caddy".

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But Mary Queen of Scots' love of golf

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also placed her at the heart of a scandal.

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In 1567, Mary's husband -

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Lord Darnley - was murdered.

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Now there was much speculation at the time

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that she was involved in his murder,

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not helped by the fact that she was apparently seen playing golf

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just a few days later.

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So, not too bothered by what had happened to him, then.

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This is the oldest of seven golf courses here.

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I wonder if they're dusting down the trophies

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ready for the Antiques Roadshow, which we're holding

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in St Salvator's quad in St Andrews University.

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Do you know what this is?

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Not really. I think it's Japanese.

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It was given to me by my mother about 20 years ago.

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She likes going to charity shops -

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still does - and anything with an animal on it she would give me,

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usually wooden elephants and china ducks,

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and she gave me this, and I thought it was different,

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but it was all broken, the piece of string was broken.

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It was 50 pence, so...

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-50 pence?

-Yes.

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I think it is just the most magical object.

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-Really?

-Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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-Good.

-This is an inro.

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-Right.

-Japanese - you were right -

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and the Japanese used to carry small objects around in there -

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seals, medicines...

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-Oh, right.

-..spices, that sort of thing.

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-Right.

-You then come through the cord,

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which you've got more or less right there,

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to the ojime,

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which actually tensions that.

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-Right.

-Now, it won't on yours,

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because the cord's too thin.

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Right.

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You need a thicker cord. And then up to the netsuke.

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And the whole thing is worn like that.

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Oh, right, so you actually walked about with it.

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Now, I strongly suspect -

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I mean, we're dealing with a time in Japan in the 19th century...

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Right.

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..when the Samurai have been stopped

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from fighting one another.

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So you had 200 years of peace.

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Right.

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The economy's quite strong,

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there are not an awful lot of people,

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so they turned to making show-off objects...

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-Oh, I see.

-..which the Samurai can wear about his person,

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and inro were one of those.

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Right.

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It's basically lacquer.

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Oh, I thought it was plastic, actually, so...lacquer, right.

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Well, in a sense you're right,

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because lacquer could be considered a form of plastic.

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It isn't. It's actually the sap of the rhus tree.

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Right.

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And it comes out of the tree as deadly poisonous,

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and all the people who work with it, at that stage, die an early death.

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Goodness me.

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It's then processed, and they paint it onto food dishes,

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wine holders, cups,

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bowls, and at that stage it's inert,

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and it lent itself to artistic use.

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Now, here the maker has made

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a netsuke in the form of a house, or hut,

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inlaid with a soapstone plaque and an inscription.

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I've never seen that before.

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Right.

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Very, very unusual.

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But the real joy is the inro itself

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and this fantastic

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lobster, crayfish.

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It's beautiful, isn't it?

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Yeah, and only the Japanese would have thought to do something

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literally eccentric - off centre.

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-In Europe, oh, no, we'd have to balance it with another one.

-Yeah.

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It's an absolutely staggering object.

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It's possibly by one of the greatest lacquer artists

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-of the late 19th century...

-Good grief.

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..Shibata Zeshin, but I don't know whether it is.

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I'd have to go and do a bit of work on it.

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Even if it's not, it's worth £3,000 to £5,000.

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Oh, my God!

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-And if it's Zeshin, I don't think I dare tell you.

-Right.

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It's a really fantastic thing.

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I'm really glad I brought it. Thank you.

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Well, this artist occasionally went in for stained glass windows

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and, do you know, looking at this, you can really see that.

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What colours!

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I mean, that rainbow is extraordinarily vivid

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and in terrific condition.

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It looks as though it's hardly seen the light of day. Has it?

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-No, it's not seen the light of day for quite a while.

-Ah.

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It was found behind a wardrobe in my late father's house.

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-Really?

-Yeah.

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It's quite a thing, isn't it? Now what's going on in it?

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I mean, she's quite gloomy, but wonderfully romantic.

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There's an angel presenting a baby,

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holding what seem to be little posies of flowers

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and she's at the bottom of a chasm

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with some dark water and some trees, very symbolic strange trees,

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and weird figures here.

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And some kind of sort of citadel,

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almost, at the top of the gorge there,

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-and a signature - which is useful to me, always.

-Right.

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Eleanor Fortescue-Brickdale, England, around 1900.

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Now, she uses body colour,

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which, incidentally, is when you mix watercolour

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with Chinese white, and it's a thickening agent -

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-it's a bit like putting flour in gravy, you know?

-Right.

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And what it does, also, is it enables the watercolour

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to become opaque instead of transparent,

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because normally when you just put watercolour on,

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it's completely like a wash.

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If you put quite a lot of Chinese white in it,

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you get this thickening here,

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-and you see how bright it is, as a result...

-Yes.

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..in the posies, and I think she's used

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a little bit of it in the rainbow,

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-just to pick it out and bring it away.

-Yeah.

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And there's quite a lot of white here to suggest

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the mistiness that this angel -

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-the vision - seems to be coming out of.

-Yes.

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She also designed her own frames.

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The original frame for this would have looked quite extraordinary,

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lots of swirly gold, quite thick,

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and often they get taken off the pictures, to put mirrors in

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in the days when people thought this sort of thing was rubbish.

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-Not so long ago, really.

-Right.

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-Do you like it?

-I do.

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I think it's fascinating, yeah.

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Mysterious, and there is a family connection.

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The lady in the painting is very much like a young version of my mother.

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-Really?

-Which is perhaps why my father hid it after my mother died.

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It's amazing what an emotional charge pictures can acquire

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over the years, isn't it?

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Well, of course, at the time this was done, you know,

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there were all sorts of strange ideas about mediums

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and reaching the other side, and there were...

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the theosophists were going and well, you know,

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there's a lot of belief in spiritualism and mediums.

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And this comes through in her work particularly.

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There's always this very strong symbolism in them,

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and not always easy to disentangle now and understand ourselves.

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-Right.

-But all we can see is this very beautiful thing.

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I don't mind that it's melancholic and rather sad,

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because it's absolutely vivid like a jewel.

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Right, yeah.

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Brilliantly done, superb condition. I absolutely love it.

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Pity it's lost its frame. That would have helped.

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But actually, even just in this modern frame,

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it's still worth £2,000 to £3,000.

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Right, really?

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Extraordinary.

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It was given to me about 30 years ago

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by a friend who was emigrating to Australia.

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Too big to take with him and I'd known it -

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he told me it was a guava bowl, belonged to his grandfather.

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His grandfather was a colonial agricultural advisor

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and he'd brought it back from somewhere.

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-Fantastic.

-So this friend -

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he's the same age as I am, about 65, so if you work back,

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must be about the '20s or '30s when he brought it home

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-from wherever he was an agricultural advisor in some colony.

-Gosh.

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Well, I'm so glad you brought it,

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and what a story, and what a gift to get.

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-Yes.

-I'll put matters to rest. This is for kava drinking.

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Kava, and kava was a drink taken throughout the South Pacific,

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particularly, obviously, the numerous Polynesian islands

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such as Samoa, Fiji,

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and a big bowl like this is big enough

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to be used by, basically, the whole community.

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But the drink's fascinating, it's actually -

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it's derived from the root of the kava bush,

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known as a Piper methisticum.

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And they harvested the root.

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Traditionally young men would chew the roots

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and it would give a mildly sort of sedative,

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state of euphoric sort of feeling.

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The roots were then put in a bowl like this, mixed with water,

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to create a drink that the whole community could enjoy.

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Sounds a bit of fun, doesn't it?

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It does. Was it fermented, was it potent, was it alcoholic?

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-I believe so. I've never brewed it myself!

-Right.

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I'd love to try it. But it obviously had a bit of a punch,

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and I think this would be really a very important central item

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to that ritual, and what's lovely about this piece is,

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it's made of hard wood, but from one big chunk of wood.

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By the shape of the bowl, the shape of the angles,

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and also particularly the addition of the sea shells,

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I think this is from the island of Fiji.

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Yes, that does ring a bell, now,

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as soon as you mentioned Fiji.

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I believe he did say Fiji.

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So it's a kava bowl. In Fiji it's called a yaqona.

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Communal drinking.

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What's it worth?

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I think because of the provenance you've given it, in a sale,

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a specialist sale of this kind of material,

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you could anticipate an auction estimate

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-of £2,000 to £3,000.

-What?!

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That's amazing.

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My father served in the Second World War

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and one of the nights that they were bivouacking,

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they were bivouacking in a small village

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and it was maybe a toy shop - I'm not certain which -

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very close to where he parked, and he was looking in the window

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and they wondered what he was up to,

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making sure he wasn't going to rob them or something,

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and they had all these toys and he bartered with them,

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and came away with these.

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And he boxed them up and somehow

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the army got it shipped back to me

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and I got them when I was five years old,

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and you can look at them and see that I've played with them readily.

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Exactly.

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They were meant to be played with and they were played with.

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So which part of Europe was your father in?

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Well, he was in Germany and then in Czechoslovakia and Austria.

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-Right.

-But I have no idea which country he was in

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when he acquired these.

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OK, well the bulk of the toys that you have here

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is made by a company called Hauser,

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and they started in business

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right back in about 1910,

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and what that company is perhaps best known for,

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apart from these toys showing the military power of Germany

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leading up to the Second World War,

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is that they invented a type of material

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for making toy soldiers, and that material,

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they trademarked the name, and it's Elastolin.

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And it was a mixture of paste on a wire armature,

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so inside here there is wire -

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and occasionally, on badly damaged soldiers,

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you can see that peeping through - and the scale was important.

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They created soldiers that were 7 or 7.5 centimetres,

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so that was really quite a breakthrough.

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And the use of this natural material

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got away from the use of lead or tin

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which is, of course, what soldiers were made of beforehand,

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so that's perhaps what Hauser is best known for.

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The figures themselves,

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because of the ease with which this paste could be moulded,

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it meant that, in fact,

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particular individuals could be made out of Elastolin,

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and in fact, if we look round, we've got the figure of Hitler,

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and it was quite normal of what a young German boy

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in 1934, '35, '36, '37,

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leading up to the war, would have wanted.

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And in that hobby shop,

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in one of the countries that your father was in,

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that's where they were sitting and waiting.

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I wonder what he bartered with.

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What did he give them - cigarettes, or...?

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Well, my dad said that it was cigarettes and chocolate

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and other paraphernalia.

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Now, I don't know what the other paraphernalia was,

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but at any rate, he parted with some of that stuff,

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and I was very fortunate in getting this.

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I mentioned that most of these are made by a company called Hauser.

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The exception, in fact, is this aeroplane here

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which is made by a company called Tipp and Company,

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and you can see it's got the initials TC on there,

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which is a good clue.

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This, I have to say, is a complete stranger.

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This is a much more contemporary model.

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It doesn't date from the same period.

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But looking at all this, did it in any way inspire your future?

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Well, the answer to that is yes, because what I did is

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I joined the Navy when I was 17 years old.

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I was very fortunate and I came up through the ranks

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and eventually became an officer

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and then I became a fighter pilot.

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I served in Vietnam,

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and my father served in the Second World War,

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and my uncle served in the Korean War.

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Our daughter is a Daughter of the Revolution,

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and so it just goes on and on.

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We're kind of warriors.

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I did 221 combat missions

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in North Vietnam.

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I was engaged in a dog fight with two Vietnamese Migs,

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and I'm happy to say I'm here today.

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It's Tom Cruise!

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THEY LAUGH Because, because...

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well, they did model him after me!

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Yeah, exactly, I can see that!

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And from there, I went on, and it was the aviation career,

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and I can trace it back to all these things.

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That it just kept spawning my interest,

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and I became a test pilot

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after a while as well,

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and so I did that for eight or nine years.

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Brilliant!

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And met my child-like bride and we settled in St Andrews.

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And here you are! Well, it just goes to show,

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you have to be careful the toys you give to your kids!

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Yes! CROWD LAUGHS

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As far as value's concerned, I mean,

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the first thing to say

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is that with toys, they kind of can only give once.

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-Yeah.

-You know, you either enjoy them for the toy value,

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and you get that pleasure from them,

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or you keep them in their original boxes

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and you get the pleasure later.

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You kind of got the pleasure early on,

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but I'm sure that we're talking about

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a couple of thousand pounds.

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It's a good collection,

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not in great condition.

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-No. That's OK.

-But the fact that it led you onto that career...

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it's brilliant. Thanks very much indeed.

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Thanking you.

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St Andrews is always considered as the home of golf,

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and I think it dates back to...I think 1754-55,

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that sort of period.

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But soon after, the Crail Club,

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which you are a member and the secretary of, was founded.

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What actual date was that?

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1786.

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They were playing golf in Crail

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for a good bit before that, but no records exist.

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So the first minute book dates from 1786.

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So probably one of the first six or seven

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oldest golf clubs in the world?

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Oh, yes, indeed.

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You know, and before 1830, there were only a handful of clubs

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existed in the world.

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As you say, about a dozen, maybe, and we're the seventh oldest.

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And so it was formed in 1786 by 11 gentlemen of Crail.

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They were all landlords and gentlemen farmers in Crail and the East Neuk,

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and by the time of 1831,

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one of the local landowners, who became Lord Lindsay of Wormiston,

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thought it was inappropriate,

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as it says in the minutes, inappropriate

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that a society of such standing

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did not have a medal to play for.

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So he donated the Lindsay medal.

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So way back in those days,

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it wasn't anybody who could join the society.

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You had to be a gentleman.

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Yes, they were quite selective

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because it was quite an expensive sport.

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And not only was the equipment expensive,

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in terms of the golf clubs and the golf balls,

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but you would be fined if you didn't attend the dinners

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and you could not...in one of the minutes it says

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you could not absent yourself from the drinking

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under the pretence of taking tea.

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HE LAUGHS So it was very much a social game.

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So what's the earliest one you have here?

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So the earliest one is the Lindsay medal, as I say, 1831.

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And there are only a handful of golf medals

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that are older than this.

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And, indeed, all these medals

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would have been worn with a ribbon

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on their uniforms at the dinners.

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Now, what makes the Lindsay medal very unusual

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is it was won by Allan Robertson,

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the world's first golf professional, in 1855.

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Now, when the medal was donated,

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it was specifically stated that it would be an open competition.

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It would be open to all gentlemen,

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and Allan Robertson, being a golf professional,

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-of course, fancies his chances.

-Yep.

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Travelled down from St Andrews to Crail

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and duly won it, in 1855.

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It was only two years later that he died,

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so I believe his name won't be on many trophies at all, if any.

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So there's some fabulous names

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engraved either on the trophies, or on the plates afterwards,

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like Captain Bruce, the Governor of Jamaica, and so on.

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Good. Well, they obviously belong to the club.

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-They're never going to sell them.

-Oh, absolutely not, no!

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We have to think about insurance,

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because these things obviously need to be insured.

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Without a doubt, the most important one is the earlier one.

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And if we just turn it over, we can see that...

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I think you can just see there, it's the date, 1855,

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and the name of the professional, Allan Robertson, there,

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so it's definitely won by him,

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and something like that would command a substantial price

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if it should ever go to auction.

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But for insurance purposes,

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I think we'll talk about

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somewhere in the region of about

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£15,000 to £18,000 for this one here.

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And for the two smaller ones and slightly later ones,

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probably around about £7,500 to £8,000.

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So we're probably talking about £25,000-£30,000

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as an insurance figure for the collection.

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Well, I'm relieved that they're kept in the bank, then!

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CROWD LAUGHS

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This is a lovely, lovely portrait,

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this girl with the dog.

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I mean, it just, it ticks every box as being a very commercial picture.

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I see down here

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that it's signed Cyrus Johnson,

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and I think it's indistinctly dated 1887.

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Cyrus was my great-great-uncle.

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OK, and you've brought along a photograph.

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-I've brought the photograph of my grandparents' wedding.

-Yes.

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Because my understanding is that the picture

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was a wedding present to my grandparents,

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who were actually married in 1898,

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so it was painted before that.

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-I don't know what happened to it before that.

-OK.

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And Cyrus himself is here.

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Looking very, very happy at the wedding.

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-Yes, looking very much at his nephew.

-Well, you wonder,

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as he gave it as a present,

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that it might be a member of the family in the distant past.

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What I know about Cyrus Johnson

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is that later on he went to do miniatures, didn't he?

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He did a lot of miniature paintings

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and he exhibited those at the Royal Academy.

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-And was he born in Cambridge?

-Yes, yes.

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And he worked in London

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and exhibited at the Royal Academy.

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And here we've got a really lovely 1880s portrait

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of a young girl holding what looks like a pug.

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-Yes.

-Or a pooch,

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and when you get to the commercial side of this,

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dogs sell pictures, they really do.

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People love them, and especially that type of dog, pooch dogs.

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-Right.

-And I think it's lovely.

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And the way it's been painted,

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when you look at her face glancing sideways and the looseness,

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this is very indicative of the period it's been painted in.

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The looseness, almost Impressionistic,

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the way the background has been done,

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and he's concentrated on the face.

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And on panel and in a very original condition.

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You've got the original frame,

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and considering it's been in your family for a long time,

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I suppose that's the reason it's in such good condition.

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We come to put a value on this.

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I think that it's so commercial...

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I mean, he's not an artist that always makes a lot of money,

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but I think this one, because of the dog,

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would be worth somewhere in the region

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of £6,000 to £8,000.

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Mmm. Mmm, lovely.

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This is a really pretty box. It is in fact a tea caddy.

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Where did you get it from?

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My aunt bought it, about 1950, I think.

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And handed down to you?

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-Yes.

-I see.

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Well, there's something

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a little bit surprising about this,

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because at first sight you might think it was made in London,

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or even in France, because it's got Edwardian-style decoration,

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these swags on the front and the sides in the Neo-Classical style,

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very typical of the late 19th century, early 20th century.

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And if we open it up,

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we can see it's silver-gilt inside...

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..and the tea was kept extra fresh by that inner liner.

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But the surprising thing about this is,

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is if we turn it upside down...

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..it's got some very good marks here.

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-Has it?

-And there's one particularly important mark.

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Have you any idea what it is?

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Well, I thought that the characters looked Russian, but I'm not sure.

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Well, it is Russian, and it's got the most famous maker's mark

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that you're ever likely to find in Russia,

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that of Carl Faberge.

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Oh, my goodness!

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And this was made in the 1890s in Moscow,

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and because it's Faberge,

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it makes it far more interesting

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than any other bit of Russian silver.

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Now, there is good news and bad news about Faberge.

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His mark has been faked more than any other mark.

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-Oh.

-And it's been faked for decades.

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Oh.

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There's also some good news.

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-This is absolutely genuine.

-Oh, it is! Oh.

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Oh.

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It's a little beauty.

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Wow.

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And a lovely piece of Faberge like this

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is going to be sought after in many, many countries.

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-Mm-hm.

-So we have to now put a figure on it.

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If I said £8,000 to £10,000, would that make you happy?

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You're darned right!

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Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, absolutely amazing.

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My aunt had a good eye, obviously.

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She had two good eyes!

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Last time we visited this area, back in 2009 in nearby Dundee,

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a visitor brought along a remarkable letter

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from the First World War.

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Remember this?

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These refer to my grandmother's brother.

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His name was Bernard Douglas Taylor.

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This is him?

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That's him, yes.

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Was he a Friend, was he a Quaker?

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He was a Quaker. The whole family

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turned Quaker before the First World War.

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And once the war had started,

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he helped out with other conscientious objectors and so on.

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When the time came for his drafting, he appeared before a panel

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and pleaded his case for not having to join the military.

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What's this dated?

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1916 it looks like, from the postmark.

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Oh, it's a letter to him.

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Oh, oh my...

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Oh, goodness me.

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It's a white feather.

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It's a white feather. As in the Four Feathers film.

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It says, "Noble sir, if you are too proud or frightened" -

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underlined - "to fight, wear this".

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-He obviously was a man of great deep beliefs.

-Absolutely.

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But how must he have felt when he received this?

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I think from what I've read of his background that he would have

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accepted it as an example of how human beings can

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look upon each other, and feel sad and sorry, perhaps,

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for the person who wrote it.

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Well, that's an interesting perspective, isn't it, I suppose?

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And I have to say that I've never seen another

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-white feather letter, ever.

-Yes.

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Because I doubt whether anybody kept them.

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I would have thought that...

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I think most people would have been very anxious

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-to get rid of them completely, very quickly.

-Exactly.

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I actually feel quite privileged to be able to see it -

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it's quite incredible.

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Now Martin, who brought in that letter,

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has returned to the programme,

0:26:520:26:53

-so Martin, lovely to see you again.

-Nice to see you.

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We had quite a response to that item on the programme.

0:26:560:26:59

I just wanted to share some of the letters and the e-mails we got.

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Very different, and we had a chap who'd been in the RAF

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who felt that we shouldn't really have been -

0:27:060:27:09

he felt we were celebrating the feather and the letter -

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and said it was shameful then, it was an act of cowardice then,

0:27:120:27:15

and it's just as cowardly now.

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Then, on the other hand, we had other letters who felt

0:27:160:27:20

quite the reverse, actually - a lot of sympathy for your great-uncle,

0:27:200:27:23

and there was one person who wrote in and said,

0:27:230:27:25

"It was particularly significant to me,

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"as my grandmother's youngest brother was a strapping

0:27:270:27:30

"thirteen and a half-year-old, but he looked much older

0:27:300:27:32

"than his years, and he kept being given white feathers,

0:27:320:27:35

"which upset him so greatly, in fact,

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"he enlisted and lied about his age."

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So he went in and served in the war far younger

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-than he should have done.

-I think many did, in fact, yes.

0:27:420:27:45

So we had very different responses.

0:27:450:27:47

-I don't know - what do you think about that?

-I don't know.

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My grandmother's brother, he was a Quaker, a pacifist,

0:27:490:27:52

and very, very sincere in his beliefs but, as in the programme,

0:27:520:27:58

I said that he went to France later to try and do even more

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for the Quakers War Victims Relief Association.

0:28:020:28:05

What have you done with the letter? What's happened to it subsequently?

0:28:050:28:09

I thought others should be able to see it and learn more

0:28:090:28:11

about the background of my grandmother's brother,

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and so I donated it to the Imperial War Museum in London.

0:28:140:28:17

Well I understand that the Imperial War Museum,

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which is planning its centenary

0:28:200:28:23

for the start of the First World War very soon,

0:28:230:28:26

is planning to put your uncle's letter in their exhibition

0:28:260:28:29

-for other people to see.

-I was unaware of that.

0:28:290:28:32

Yes, they did say at the time that any exhibition which included

0:28:320:28:35

the letter, they would let me know. So far they haven't, but...

0:28:350:28:37

Well, that's the idea and it will be there for everyone to see.

0:28:370:28:40

That's great.

0:28:400:28:41

And your uncle's story will be told all over again.

0:28:410:28:43

I'm very glad of that. Thanks for letting me know.

0:28:430:28:45

-That's wonderful.

-Thanks, Martin.

0:28:450:28:47

Well, we've got a bit of a dark and overcast day here today

0:28:470:28:51

in St Andrews, but this would brighten anybody's day,

0:28:510:28:54

so how did it come to be in your collection?

0:28:540:28:57

Well, it was given to me by my mother round about 1986,

0:28:570:29:01

and it came to her from an aunt round about 1944.

0:29:010:29:06

-It was always known as Aunt Kate's brooch.

-Right.

0:29:060:29:09

Yes. Aunt Kate's brooch.

0:29:090:29:11

And did you used to go and look in the jewellery box

0:29:110:29:13

and take it out and admire it?

0:29:130:29:14

-I think it was in the bank.

-Oh!

-I'm pretty sure it was in the bank.

0:29:140:29:18

Yes, safely under lock of key,

0:29:180:29:21

which of course with a piece like this is probably essential.

0:29:210:29:24

Yes. But my grandfather actually was the only boy in the family

0:29:240:29:27

and he had about eight sisters and I think they all wanted it,

0:29:270:29:31

so it caused a bit of trouble in the past.

0:29:310:29:35

-Oh no, oh no.

-Yes, they all wanted it.

-Oh, that's a shame.

0:29:350:29:38

Sometimes jewellery can do that - it can cause so much love,

0:29:380:29:42

but also jealousy as well.

0:29:420:29:43

-And do you actually wear it?

-I've worn it once to a wedding.

0:29:430:29:47

I'm terrified of losing it.

0:29:470:29:49

Well, it is important that we do wear our jewellery

0:29:500:29:54

and, of course, look after it as well,

0:29:540:29:56

but it's... The family history that you've given fits in perfectly,

0:29:560:30:00

because it actually originally dates from round about 1870-1880.

0:30:000:30:05

And it's set with what we call old brilliant-cut diamonds,

0:30:050:30:09

which are a cut which has got a nice softness to it,

0:30:090:30:14

they look a little bit cushion-like and they give off this beautiful

0:30:140:30:18

bright shininess to the stones, they're really absolutely adorable.

0:30:180:30:23

Set in a flower head setting,

0:30:230:30:25

as we have here, which again was very traditional of jewellery

0:30:250:30:28

produced in the Victorian period.

0:30:280:30:30

It was a very romantic time as far as jewellery's concerned

0:30:300:30:34

and flowers were a way of expressing true love.

0:30:340:30:38

The diamonds have been set in what we call collet mounts

0:30:380:30:41

so it's rather like a little collar which is securing

0:30:410:30:44

the rather large centre stone that we have there.

0:30:440:30:47

One of the ways that we value diamonds is by looking at what

0:30:470:30:52

we know as the four Cs, and it's the colour, the cut, the clarity

0:30:520:30:58

and, of course, the carat size, which is very important

0:30:580:31:01

when it comes to valuing diamonds.

0:31:010:31:03

Now, here we're looking at something that is somewhere between 4.5

0:31:030:31:06

and 5 carats in size,

0:31:060:31:09

and on the outer sides we've got individual stones

0:31:090:31:13

which are about 50 to 60 points, so just over half a carat.

0:31:130:31:18

So in total, we've got somewhere between eight and nine carats' worth

0:31:180:31:23

-of diamonds, which is really quite fantastic, isn't it?

-It's amazing.

0:31:230:31:27

Fabulous.

0:31:280:31:30

Looking at the colour of them,

0:31:300:31:31

they've got a lovely whiteness to them,

0:31:310:31:33

there's not too much yellow coming off the stones,

0:31:330:31:36

so they're good quality colour diamonds as well.

0:31:360:31:38

And the clarity, which is the internal condition of the stone -

0:31:380:31:42

they are very good, so all in all, it's really quite a stunning brooch.

0:31:420:31:46

Now, of course, something like this is just amazing

0:31:480:31:52

and highly collectible as well.

0:31:520:31:54

Not just because of the fact that it's a very well made

0:31:540:31:57

and interesting piece of Victorian jewellery, which sums up that

0:31:570:32:01

very sentimental side of jewellery during the period,

0:32:010:32:04

but of course because of the carat weight of diamonds.

0:32:040:32:07

And if this came up for auction,

0:32:070:32:10

it is easily going to get

0:32:100:32:13

somewhere between £10,000 and £15,000.

0:32:130:32:16

Really?

0:32:160:32:18

Oh! That's just amazing.

0:32:180:32:21

A fabulous bit of jewellery, I think, I absolutely treasure it.

0:32:210:32:24

This is a really pretty Chinese bowl.

0:32:240:32:28

What brings it up to St Andrews?

0:32:280:32:31

My mother had it

0:32:310:32:33

when she lived in Jersey -

0:32:330:32:35

I have no idea how she got it.

0:32:350:32:37

Well, it is a very interesting bowl.

0:32:390:32:41

It's, as I said, it's Chinese,

0:32:410:32:43

but it's really quite old.

0:32:430:32:45

This dates to the middle of the 17th century.

0:32:450:32:48

What was going on then?

0:32:500:32:52

Thank God I kept it carefully!

0:32:520:32:53

Cromwell. But in China, more importantly,

0:32:530:32:56

the Ming dynasty fell in 1644 and was replaced -

0:32:560:33:00

the Manchurians - the Manchu dynasty came in, known as the Qing dynasty

0:33:000:33:03

and they established themselves

0:33:030:33:05

-and they moved into the Imperial Palaces.

-Yes.

0:33:050:33:08

This type of bowl is usually referred to as an Immortals bowl.

0:33:080:33:12

We've got a little character here, this is Shu-lau, you can tell this,

0:33:120:33:16

he's got a great big forehead, he's holding a sceptre.

0:33:160:33:19

He certainly has.

0:33:190:33:20

And he's usually accompanied by a crane or a deer,

0:33:200:33:22

so if we look on this bowl, there'll be a crane and a deer.

0:33:220:33:25

You might see them before I do. There.

0:33:250:33:27

-There's the deer.

-There's the deer, these are attributes of Shu-lau

0:33:270:33:31

so we've got the eight Taoist immortals and Shu-lau.

0:33:310:33:33

Mm-hm.

0:33:330:33:35

What makes this bowl special, though, is what's on the bottom.

0:33:350:33:39

It's a very unusual mark,

0:33:390:33:42

it was made for a specific place in one of the Imperial Palaces.

0:33:420:33:46

It says,

0:33:460:33:47

"made in the antique style for the Pavilion of Moral Obligations".

0:33:470:33:54

Oh, dear!

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The Pavilion of Moral Obligations.

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Well, I do sometimes do some of my moral obligations.

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-I don't know if you've been to the Forbidden City?

-Yes, I have.

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-1982, it was just opened.

-Fantastic. You didn't try and count the rooms?

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No.

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There were allegedly - I may not be right -

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over 8,600 rooms in that palace alone.

0:34:190:34:22

-Yes.

-And there are other palaces.

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I don't know anything about this particular pavilion.

0:34:230:34:26

It's probably possible to find out.

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But it is a very unusual bowl.

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-It's very, very interesting and very exciting to see it.

-Good.

-Um...

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It does have a problem.

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There is a crack, very faint.

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I thought I heard a slight ping when you did that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Doesn't sound too bad, but there is still a crack there,

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it's about a two-inch crack, very clean in the rim.

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So I suppose it's only worth, maybe...

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£10,000 or £12,000.

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Oh, that's very unkind of you.

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LAUGHTER

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Take away the noise and we'll put it up a bit.

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There's a bit of a buzz going round the Roadshow,

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cos apparently a rather important collection has come in.

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Geoffrey Munn is going to be looking at this assortment here

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of Royal memorabilia, I guess you could call it.

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He's very excited about it,

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so excited he's insisted that we put it under this very special

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Antiques Roadshow pagoda, we're calling it,

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because - actually, we've been quite lucky so far -

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but there is the odd spot of rain.

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Anyway, the owner doesn't know very much about it,

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Geoffrey thinks it's significant.

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I wonder what he's going to say.

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Well, this book has no words, but it does have

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about 200 exceptional hand-coloured engravings.

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-Do you know where it's come from?

-It was my great-great-grandmother's

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and it was just handed down in the family.

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-Do you know who it's by?

-Buffon - am I right?

0:35:570:35:59

Yeah, absolutely, spot on.

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It's actually only half the plates from Buffon's work on birds.

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-Right.

-So we've got 200 wonderful hand-coloured plates here

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of all sorts of birds. They are in fact titled in French.

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And the engravings are by Martinet, or Martinette,

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and that's all that the book actually tells you.

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So we've got to have a look through

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and see some of these wonderful coloured illustrations.

0:36:210:36:24

-The colour is all hand done, and you can see it's really vibrant.

-Yeah.

0:36:240:36:29

It's as fresh as it was done back in 1770-1780 -

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something of that sort of date - the late 18th century.

0:36:340:36:37

Mm. How has it kept its colour so well?

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-Well, I think it's been closed up.

-Yes, that's true!

0:36:400:36:43

-And not much looked at, is my guess.

-Yes.

-Keep it away from the sun.

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-Yes.

-And then the colour will survive.

0:36:460:36:50

We have here an image of the Great Bustard.

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I think just being re-introduced into this country.

0:36:540:36:57

-I understand that.

-Salisbury Plain, isn't that correct?

-Yeah, yeah.

0:36:570:37:01

We've got a water bird,

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a puffin or something like it.

0:37:020:37:04

A lot of those round here.

0:37:040:37:06

Indeed, and one of my favourites,

0:37:060:37:09

the toucan.

0:37:090:37:11

-Yes.

-Always a superb picture.

0:37:110:37:13

Other good pictures include parrots.

0:37:130:37:15

-The parrots are at the end.

-Some of those at the back.

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Here's a green parrot

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and a grey parrot.

0:37:200:37:23

-Have you been all the way through it?

-I have, yes.

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Somebody once suggested that we remove all the pages

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and make them into pictures,

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-which of course I declined.

-You haven't done.

-No.

0:37:330:37:36

Well, that's very honourable of you, very laudable.

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That would have made quite a lot of money that way. Sorry!

0:37:390:37:43

-It's the way we have to value them, as a price-per-plate, I think.

-Yes.

0:37:440:37:48

-So, my calculation says 200 very fine hand-coloured engravings.

-Yes.

0:37:480:37:54

Auction price at least £10 a plate,

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so somewhere between £2,000 -

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possibly up to - £3,000.

0:38:000:38:02

It actually belongs to my son.

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My mother left it to one of our children.

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-So he's going to inherit it.

-So I hope he doesn't watch this programme,

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cos he's rather keen on money!

0:38:120:38:15

So it seems that St Andrews really couldn't get any more royal,

0:38:160:38:20

but here we are, surrounded by royal memorabilia.

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To be frank, it was hard to arrange it all on the table

0:38:230:38:26

and every single one of them is a fascinating souvenir

0:38:260:38:29

of the British Royal Family going back really about 120 years.

0:38:290:38:33

But they've fallen to you - and how did that happen?

0:38:330:38:36

Well, it was all given to my husband when he was young.

0:38:360:38:40

They lived next door,

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and were very friendly with two elderly ladies who in fact

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had been brought up at Sandringham when Edward VII lived there.

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Their father was private secretary to Princess Victoria

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and bit by bit, they gave him things,

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and when we married,

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-we were given the plate and various other things.

-Marvellous!

0:38:560:38:59

Well, they are true souvenirs,

0:38:590:39:01

there are specimens of royal handwriting here,

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which of course is the most ghostly of all, isn't it?

0:39:030:39:06

I mean, handwriting - a real autograph -

0:39:060:39:08

is a very exciting object to have and it says,

0:39:080:39:11

"Her Royal Highness the Princess Victoria at Sandringham".

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And then there are photographs of Queen Maud of Norway.

0:39:150:39:18

It seems really the focus are on

0:39:180:39:20

-the children of King Edward VII, aren't they?

-That's right.

0:39:200:39:24

And these are intensely personal objects, there's a little dance card

0:39:240:39:27

here from Sandringham in eau-de-nil coloured card,

0:39:270:39:30

and its original pencil held in with a silk tassel

0:39:300:39:34

and as you whirled round the dance floor, you made notes of who

0:39:340:39:37

you were going to dance with next.

0:39:370:39:39

Tell me what you know about the tortoise.

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An inkwell that was given as a present to Princess Victoria

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and it's I believe tortoiseshell.

0:39:450:39:48

Tortoiseshell and it's a sort of tortoiseshell box, really, isn't it?

0:39:480:39:51

Oh, it is an inkwell, of course it is!

0:39:510:39:53

And it says quite plainly on the front "Her Royal Highness

0:39:530:39:56

"Princess Victoria of Wales, July 6th 1885",

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and it's a beautiful object, an amusing object,

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it's a pun on tortoiseshell. And how to value it - I don't know,

0:40:030:40:07

because there are dozens and dozens of pieces of plate here

0:40:070:40:10

from an Imperial Russian Service with the cipher

0:40:100:40:13

of Alexander III on it, and tell me about the leather cigar box.

0:40:130:40:17

That belonged to Edward VII. It came with the other things.

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Marvellous, made of leather in a 17th-century taste.

0:40:210:40:25

But how to value them? Bits of paper, photographs, but I think

0:40:250:40:28

the most astonishing thing I've got to tell you is that this collection

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is not worth - you know - perhaps three or four hundred pounds...

0:40:310:40:33

-No.

-But I think my estimation of it is that it's worth £12,000.

0:40:330:40:37

Good grief! LAUGHTER

0:40:370:40:41

Yes, right.

0:40:430:40:44

-And would you like to know why?

-Yes. Yes, indeed!

-Yes, you would.

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Because there is one object in here that positively radiates royal,

0:40:480:40:53

-not only royal, but imperial majesty.

-Ah, yes.

0:40:530:40:57

And I think you can probably guess from what I've said,

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it's the stick pin here and the hint of its majestic power is that

0:41:010:41:06

it's made of red leather and it has the twinned imperial eagle

0:41:060:41:11

of the Russian - of the Romanovs, frankly.

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And it has no hint of the supplier's name in the lid,

0:41:140:41:19

but when I was looking at it earlier, I took a lens to the pin

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and there's a tiny, tiny fugitive little mark that says

0:41:230:41:27

"AT". Now, "AT" doesn't seem to add up terribly well either, does it?

0:41:270:41:32

No, except that old bossy boots here knows that AT was a work master

0:41:320:41:37

to the most famous goldsmith that ever lived, to Carl Faberge,

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and so this is a Faberge stick pin decorated in two colours of gold

0:41:410:41:44

with the Romanov eagle with a tiny sapphire

0:41:440:41:47

and a triumphal laurel

0:41:470:41:49

and we have to now guess when this is likely to have been given.

0:41:490:41:53

And it's easier than you might think.

0:41:530:41:55

And the most significant time that the Tsar came to Sandringham,

0:41:550:41:59

where the Princesses were living, was in 1893

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when he came to visit Queen Victoria

0:42:010:42:05

to tell her that he wanted to marry her granddaughter

0:42:050:42:08

-who was Princess Alix of Hesse.

-Ah, right, yes.

0:42:080:42:10

And he needed her permission for that marriage, and as he went,

0:42:100:42:14

-he strew his way, STREW his way with stick pins.

-Right!

0:42:140:42:18

He actually... I knew earlier and I recognised this instantly.

0:42:180:42:23

Right.

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Because when he got off the train at Wolferton, for Sandringham,

0:42:240:42:27

he gave the station master an almost identical pin.

0:42:270:42:30

-Oh, right.

-..which I saw 25 years ago.

-Oh, goodness.

0:42:300:42:33

And so I knew what this was, and I stalked you,

0:42:330:42:35

and I think I've done it quite well, if you don't mind me saying so!

0:42:350:42:39

-Yes, very well!

-How's your heart? Mine's nearly...

0:42:390:42:42

So £12,000 for the entire collection.

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£10,000 for a Faberge stick pin with an imperial provenance,

0:42:450:42:50

and you can't ask for a royal object to be more than that.

0:42:500:42:53

But curiously enough, what's in a name?

0:42:530:42:55

These other things are just as valuable, but it's not about money.

0:42:550:42:58

-No, no. No.

-No, it's very, very touching,

0:42:580:43:00

these are little ghosts

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that are ebbing ever so slightly away from us.

0:43:020:43:04

Very few people know who these people are

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and now we've got a chance to show them

0:43:060:43:08

in a town of royal, deeply royal significance,

0:43:080:43:11

and I couldn't be more pleased, so thank you so much.

0:43:110:43:14

-Thank you.

-It's been wonderful, wonderful.

-Thank you.

-Brilliant.

0:43:140:43:18

Wonderful to see that collection of royal memorabilia,

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and of course here at St Andrews,

0:43:230:43:25

which has that most recent of royal connections

0:43:250:43:28

with William and Kate - or Duke and Duchess of Cambridge,

0:43:280:43:31

as I think we're supposed to call them now.

0:43:310:43:33

We've had a wonderful day here in St Salvator's quad.

0:43:330:43:35

I hope you've enjoyed it as well,

0:43:350:43:37

until next time, from St Andrews, bye-bye.

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