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Time and time again, Roadshow fans ask us the same thing -

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"Whatever happened to those much talked about items?

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"Did anyone get rich from their family heirloom?"

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Well, do we have a story or two for you, including a jaw-dropping

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discovery that's beaten every record in the programme's long history.

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Let's find out in this special episode of the Antiques Roadshow.

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From spooky Cawdor Castle in Scotland

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right down to the shingle shores of Southsea, we've been on another

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sweep of Britain in search of treasure over this last year.

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Well, I'm delighted. This is a proper mystery object.

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Right.

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I think you know what it might be for.

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Yes, I think so.

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But - any ideas, any ideas?

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Bowling ball.

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Bowling ball, not a bowling ball.

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Now I'm not entirely sure

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whether we've ever done a tiara on the Antiques Roadshow.

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You're looking around about £20,000.

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What?!

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£10,000.

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I think I need that brandy that I mentioned earlier on.

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This is a rat deterrent.

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Three to five thousand pounds.

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What? Oh, my God.

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You wouldn't get any change from £2,000.

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Oh, my!

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Who's a lucky lady?

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Well, if we just take the 500

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and we say an average of £200.

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OK, you'd better do the maths.

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That adds up to maybe £100,000.

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Oh, my goodness.

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Well, they're great diamonds, they're great turquoises,

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it's a big, splendid look.

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What do I think that would fetch?

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£25,000 to £30,000.

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Oh, my God, really?

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It's worth - I don't know - £4,000 to £6,000.

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Ooh, it's not.

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It's a good doorstop!

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That's amazing, isn't it? It's ugly as well.

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And our journey ends here, in a place we could not have predicted.

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So often we find surprising stories behind the objects we show.

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Who could know that one of them would bring us to a royal palace?

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This is Hampton Court Palace.

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And we've been brought here because of this item.

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Was furniture expert Christopher Payne right,

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in thinking that this chest, which we saw earlier this year

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in the north of Scotland, was once owned by a Queen of England?

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This is one of the most extraordinary things I've ever seen.

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It has always been known in the family as the Queen Anne chest.

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I mean she was queen, let's say circa 1700,

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-so that's a long time ago.

-Yes.

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300 years ago.

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Researchers here at Hampton Court Palace were watching that programme

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and believe that the chest may have begun its life here,

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and possibly once belonged to a queen of England.

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Can that really be right? We'll find out.

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Also in this special edition, could this be the most valuable

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object to be sold after appearing on the Roadshow?

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Now hold your breath, because one of those,

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some years ago, sold for £30,000 at auction.

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A standard Leica II has a black body, and I have to be quite

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frank with you, I've never seen one with a gilded body like this.

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-Oh.

-That's what makes this a particularly interesting camera.

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And we'll also find out how the prestigious Victoria and Albert

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Museum just had to acquire this curious piece from the Roadshow.

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Well, when it comes to wacky objects,

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this definitely wins the prize.

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I think it is the strangest,

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most over-the-top glass that I have seen in a very long time.

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Now, even I don't know the outcome of our first story.

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Remember the vicar's van Dyck?

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Father Jamie McCloud, who runs a religious retreat in Derbyshire.

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He brought along a painting to our show in Cirencester.

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And so where did you get it from?

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I bought it originally in Nantwich.

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In an antique shop there, and knew nothing about it.

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And how much did you pay for it?

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I spent 400 for it, and I bought it,

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not because of the picture as such, but I liked the frame.

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There was something about his ruffle, something about him telling a story.

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My work is in a Retreat House and we are an Ecumenical Community

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and we have it hanging, it's hanging there, for people to see.

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I mean it says here, "Sir Anthony van Dyck"

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-which obviously is a name to quicken the pulse.

-Yes.

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As it happens, by coincidence,

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I was making a programme with our paintings expert,

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Philip Mould, about van Dyck and have spent nothing but weeks

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looking at van Dyck paintings and when I saw this, something about

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the eyes, and the way you can almost see the bone under the nose here,

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it just looked similar to the kind of paintings I've been looking at.

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But clearly I am no paintings expert and no van Dyck expert,

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and that's why we need Philip Mould to look at it.

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Philip, meet Father Jamie.

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Hello.

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And Father Jamie brought this painting along.

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I thought there could be something in it,

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but I want you to have a look at it.

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I've now had time to acquaint myself with it.

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At first this looks like an Old Master, it looks like a 17th century

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picture, it looks like something that you might think of as van Dyck.

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As you get closer though, second glance, there are some muddy areas.

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I don't like the way the beard is done.

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There are certain aspects of the background

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that look a bit sort of misty, not properly defined.

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And if we're looking for the work of van Dyck,

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it's all about clarity and lucidity.

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The third glance though is the most exciting,

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because as you move in to the features,

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look at that phenomenally bold highlight

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just to the left of his eye,

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and look at the sort of bony anatomy, the confidence

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with which the nose is done, and then as you work down,

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just have a look at those lips.

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It's done with shorthand,

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it's done with absolute certainty.

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But if this is to be by van Dyck, there's only one way of finding out,

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and this is the art world equivalent of excavation.

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The question is,

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are you prepared to commission a process of cleaning and restoration?

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By which paint is radically removed, but later paint,

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to reveal what I hope could be an original work beneath.

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And it's a harrowing experience, and you're going to need

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-to keep the faith, if you don't mind me saying.

-Yes.

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What do you think?

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I think, yes, it would be a wonderful experience to go through that,

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and to see what happens.

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That was six months ago.

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Since then the painting has undergone extensive restoration

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in the hands of specialist Simon Gillespie.

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The painstaking process involved the use of solvents to gradually

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remove over-paint, added in the 18th century.

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It took the equivalent of three weeks' solid work

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to finish the clean.

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Simon had to be careful not to remove any

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of the original 17th century brush strokes, that would be so important

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in identifying the original artist.

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As the restoration reached a critical moment,

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Philip Mould decided to visit Simon in his studio to see how the process

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of removing the over-paint and centuries of dirt was progressing.

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In Cirencester, we just had to guess, really, didn't we,

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that there was evidence to suggest

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that there might be something exciting beneath.

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But what you have just done, what you have taken off, has really begun

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to show that our instincts perhaps are right,

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that there is something brilliant beneath.

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Something hidden and really vital and exciting.

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It is, it's a very exciting picture to be dealing with and revealing

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what is coming up and so evidently, so obviously of top quality.

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I'd be very interested to see what the experts are going to say.

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I'm really pleased that Father Jamie took the risk,

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because there is risk in restoration.

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I mean, just the process of taking off varnish and later paint

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can sometimes damage the layer beneath.

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And there's also the danger that you can reveal an area that is damaged.

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The picture would be better off not having been cleaned!

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But so far, the risk is paying off.

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What we've seen dramatically revealed today

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are the strokes of a great hand.

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Philip, there isn't much that you don't know about van Dyck

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and you've nursed this painting through restoration,

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through cleaning, how's it looking?

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-Well, shall we have a look?

-Yes.

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Let us unveil it.

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Wow, it's completely different.

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All the dark gloominess round here has vanished

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and so now this is a preparatory sketch, is it?

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It's the beginning of a painting rather than the completed painting?

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Yeah, it would seem to be a first idea by an artist.

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When you first saw the painting, you thought there was a chance

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that it could be by van Dyck. Do you still think that now?

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Well, personally, I do. I mean, I've been following it through.

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I still think it is by the master, but as you know so well,

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we have to get the academic authority to say "yes"

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before in market terms it properly becomes a van Dyck.

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And have you found anyone to look at it?

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We have found the national expert, the great scholar

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on the subject of van Dyck and he has seen it and considered it.

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And?

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Well, at the risk of toying with your emotions, do you mind

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if we wait for Father Jamie?

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I really do mind, but I suspect I'm not going to win this argument.

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How frustrating.

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Father Jamie's coming along later, and if this painting really

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is by van Dyck, it could be seriously valuable.

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And we've witnessed some jaw-dropping valuations

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on this show, but, perhaps surprisingly,

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few people go on to sell their items.

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But recently we heard about a camera that first came along

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to the Roadshow 12 years ago and it was finally coming up for sale.

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-I've had it about 45 years.

-Yes.

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And I acquired it then and I used to use it in my younger days.

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Yes.

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But haven't used it for years and years,

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I just left it in the drawer.

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The story began back in Wales in 2001 when Mostyn,

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the owner of this camera, brought it in to show expert Marc Allum.

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It was a typically busy day, really.

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It was one of those kind of days that I didn't feel

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was rather fateful, but suddenly this gentleman arrived at my table

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and put this thing in front of me and I looked at it

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and I could see that it was a crocodile case.

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I knew that it was going to be a camera.

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I wasn't quite sure what was going to come out,

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but when this camera did come out, then my whole world sort of changed.

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Essentially, I was faced with something that

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I kind of felt didn't really exist.

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Leica made a camera called the Leica I in 1931

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and they produced very, very few,

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and in fact they were called the Luxus range.

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'I saw that it was a Leica, and not just an ordinary Leica,'

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it was a Leica Luxus - a gold Leica.

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I looked at the serial number.

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88840 - now that to me

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is a Leica II.

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That is 1932 for this particular model.

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'I used to carry round a list of Leica serial numbers'

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so I looked it up, saw that it was a Leica II.

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In fact, I didn't know that they'd made a Leica II Luxus

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and that's when it started to get really interesting.

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'I rang up an authority, basically, on cameras, and he was able

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'to say to me, "This is one of only four that was ever made."'

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Upon her father's death,

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his daughter, Sue, decided to get in touch with Marc.

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My father passed away in early 2012 and there was quite a lot

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to sort out with the house etc.

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You know, we knew that he had the camera, and at that time we knew it

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was valuable, but we didn't really appreciate how special it was.

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My father said if ever I should want to sell the camera

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to contact Marc Allum.

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'Out of the blue came an e-mail from his daughter and I was able'

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to give her impartial advice on where she might potentially

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sell the camera, and in doing that she was able to make her own choice.

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This is potentially one of the most valuable items

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to come to sale from the Antiques Roadshow.

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Now, the camera is worth a huge amount of money

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and it's like many areas of the market that have been fuelled

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by the Eastern market and Eastern buyers, particularly the Chinese.

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Mostyn and myself,

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we had no idea what could possibly happen to the value.

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With the auction house estimating the camera could

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sell for hundreds of thousands of pounds, it could break our

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highest record for an object sold after appearing on the Roadshow.

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That's currently held by a painting by William Orpen that sold

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five years ago for £300,000.

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I mean, it's history making as well as breaking other records too.

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That's the incredible, you know, thing about it.

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It's absolutely tremendous.

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I think it's terribly exciting and I'm sure my husband and my son,

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and probably my daughter, will be around the computer

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with our dressing gowns on, looking at the auction and hoping,

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fingers crossed, that it goes well for everybody.

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Of course, the anticipation is almost killing me.

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I've kept quiet about this for months and months,

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and, um, I'm obviously looking forward to the sale.

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I can't go to Hong Kong,

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but, of course, I'm going to watch it on the live feed.

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I feel as if Marc and I have been pen pals for the past five months

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because I initially sent him an e-mail back in June.

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When his reply did come back,

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he was so friendly and willing to help

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that I almost felt as if I'd already met him

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and so it's going to be a great thrill to meet him.

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I feel as if we're pals in a way.

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The owner's daughter, Sue, felt she wanted to express her thanks

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to Marc and arranged to meet him in London,

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where the camera was on show prior to its sale in November

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in Hong Kong.

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Hello, Sue.

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Hello. I'm going to give you a hug.

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I'm not going to shake hands after five months.

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No, it's really good to finally meet you.

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I know, exactly, oh, my goodness.

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And here she is, in all her majesty.

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I know, can you believe it? It looks absolutely beautiful.

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Is she a she?

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Of course, of course.

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Well, this is the culmination of it all, isn't it?

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Yes, it is. Indeed, it is.

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And I have to say it's been quite a long journey actually.

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So, it looks like we're both going to be watching this

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-from different parts of the world.

-Indeed.

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And, you know, I wish you every success with it.

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I really do.

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Thank you.

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Lot number 1681.

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A Leica Luxus number II, 1932,

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with its extraordinary original pretty box, and already

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I seem to have three million Hong Kong dollars bid for it.

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Three million dollars to me. Three million two.

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Three million five.

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Three million eight. Three million eight down here.

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3,800,000.

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Three million nine against that.

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3,900,000. Over here?

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Four million dollars.

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What's yours on the main line, telephone bidder?

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Yours in the room, sir, four million. Anyone going on?

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I'm going to sell it. Here we are.

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You're all quite sure. Your bid, sir, four million dollars.

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That is sold to you,

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thanks very much. Four million.

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Sue was watching the auction online at home in America,

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and I caught up with her after the auction at the end of our day.

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Susan, hi, it's Fiona Bruce.

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Hi, nice to meet you.

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Very nice to meet you, since I haven't met you in person,

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to meet you, albeit over the internet, and congratulations.

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Thank you very much.

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Who would have known it would have ended like this?

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It's been tremendous and the help we've received from everybody,

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from Marc Allum on the Antiques Roadshow,

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has just been absolutely superb.

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And what did you think, as you saw the value creeping up?

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We were all kind of quite anxious. We didn't have any audio feed

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and we didn't have any visual feed, so we were just watching the numbers

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at the bottom of our screen, and then suddenly it's, what,

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over 350,000, so it's just staggering, really.

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Yeah, 350,000, or, in your money,

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half a million dollars.

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Yes, that's right.

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So it's a heck of a result, isn't it?

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Yes, I mean, it's quite staggering, I don't know many...

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many objects or whatever

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that you could get that sort of return in 12 years.

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And now you've sold it,

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do you have any idea what you're going to do with the money?

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Have you got any projects planned?

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Um, well our youngest son is going off to college

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and college here is really quite expensive,

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so I'm sure some of it will be used towards that.

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But, you know, we just intend to look after it

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and make sure that it's a nice legacy for our children.

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And what do you think your father would have made of it all?

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I think he would have been delighted.

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I mean, I'm just so thankful that I was able to, you know,

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fulfil his wish.

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So, still emotional, even now.

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Yeah. He would have been delighted, I'm sure.

0:18:380:18:41

I'm sure he would have been thrilled, as you say.

0:18:410:18:44

Susan, thank you so much, it's been so lovely to talk to you in person.

0:18:440:18:47

And enjoy it, and thank you for letting us share the journey.

0:18:470:18:50

Oh, you're very welcome.

0:18:500:18:52

Thank you for all the help that the Antiques Roadshow has given

0:18:520:18:55

and Marc Allum too, it's been wonderful.

0:18:550:18:57

What incredibly good news for Sue and her family.

0:19:040:19:08

And, you know, that's not the only item that's recently gone on to sell

0:19:080:19:11

after first coming to light at a Roadshow.

0:19:110:19:14

Remember this bamboo pot, once used by Chinese scholars

0:19:140:19:17

we first saw at our Chatham show early this year?

0:19:170:19:19

Do you know what it is?

0:19:190:19:22

No, that's exactly why I brought it today.

0:19:220:19:25

But you have a penchant for brown pots.

0:19:250:19:28

-I love wood.

-OK, so, you like it because it's wood.

0:19:280:19:30

-Yes.

-Do you know what kind of wood it is?

0:19:300:19:33

-No.

-It's bamboo, and in Chinese it's called a bitong,

0:19:330:19:36

and it's a brush pot.

0:19:360:19:39

The owner was astonished by its value.

0:19:390:19:43

It's nice. I suppose it's worth £6,000 to £8,000.

0:19:430:19:47

I don't believe it.

0:19:510:19:52

Well, it nearly went to the charity shop last week.

0:19:540:19:57

Imagine how she felt when it went on to sell for a cool £20,000.

0:19:570:20:01

We understand it went back to China.

0:20:020:20:04

You've got a print here signed with some very celebrated initials.

0:20:060:20:10

Yes. Of Durer, yes.

0:20:100:20:13

-Albrecht Durer.

-Yes.

0:20:130:20:16

We were all agog when a print,

0:20:160:20:17

brought into our Roadshow from Stowe, shown earlier this year,

0:20:170:20:21

was valued for a considerable amount.

0:20:210:20:23

And I have to say, from what I can see,

0:20:230:20:28

this is an original Albrecht Durer print.

0:20:280:20:31

-So it comes to value.

-Yes.

0:20:310:20:34

Well, I have to say, subject to just a few checks,

0:20:340:20:39

-given that prints are a complex area...

-Yes.

0:20:390:20:43

..and Durer in particular, I think this could be worth

0:20:430:20:46

-up to about £20,000.

-That's really good news.

0:20:460:20:50

Was Philip Mould right?

0:20:500:20:52

Well, his valuation was tested when that print by Durer,

0:20:520:20:55

produced in the early 16th century,

0:20:550:20:58

went on to sell for £19,000.

0:20:580:21:00

We were delighted to be able to tell the owner, Mary, that after

0:21:000:21:04

she sold it, the print was taken to the other side of the world, to

0:21:040:21:07

an art gallery in New Zealand where it is now proudly on display.

0:21:070:21:11

And if you've ever wondered what people spend their money on

0:21:110:21:15

after selling their objects, here's a great example.

0:21:150:21:18

If this were a copy of the Kangxi period,

0:21:180:21:21

then £2,500 is an extremely generous offer.

0:21:210:21:25

-Oh, really.

-Yeah. However, it is actually of the period it says,

0:21:250:21:28

so it's probably worth between £5,000 and £10,000.

0:21:280:21:31

The owner here, Iona, tells us that she's very happy

0:21:320:21:35

with the new car sitting on her drive.

0:21:350:21:38

Her vase sold for an impressive £22,000

0:21:380:21:41

following its visit to the show.

0:21:410:21:43

Iona now has what she calls "a nippy little number"

0:21:430:21:46

parked on her drive, all down to an old pot.

0:21:460:21:49

Now, some objects arriving at a Roadshow defy even our experts.

0:21:510:21:55

One mystery, which was recently solved, arose when our glass expert,

0:21:550:22:00

Andy McConnell, found an object at Chepstow Racecourse.

0:22:000:22:03

Well, when it comes to wacky objects,

0:22:030:22:07

this definitely wins the prize.

0:22:070:22:09

I think it is the strangest, most over-the-top glass that

0:22:090:22:13

I have seen in a very long time, I'm delighted to say.

0:22:130:22:17

One of the things about the Roadshow,

0:22:170:22:19

one of the great buzzes, really, one of the dangers,

0:22:190:22:22

is, of course, you've never seen this stuff before.

0:22:220:22:24

You open for business, as it were,

0:22:240:22:27

and the owners turn up bearing their stuff, and, well,

0:22:270:22:30

95% of it, you take in your stride, but there's always going

0:22:300:22:34

to be 5%, that, you know, leaves you scratching your head.

0:22:340:22:39

And this one fell into this category.

0:22:390:22:44

What you have is a hybrid, but they are a lamp.

0:22:440:22:47

What you'd do is, you'd fill them, these two reservoirs,

0:22:470:22:52

which are separated within, with lamp oil,

0:22:520:22:55

and then you had tapers that were pushed in through the mouth.

0:22:550:22:58

-They're obviously flexible - and down into the body here.

-Yes.

0:22:580:23:02

I was about one inch out of the gig

0:23:020:23:05

when I started having misgivings about my recording.

0:23:050:23:08

I got home and I think, "Who's going to know about this?"

0:23:080:23:11

Well, Reino Liefkes, senior curator of glass and ceramics

0:23:110:23:14

at the Victoria and Albert Museum, is a kind of glass mate.

0:23:140:23:17

You know, we know each other, and he knows... And he's Dutch,

0:23:170:23:23

so he's European, you see, and his knowledge of Central European glass

0:23:230:23:28

is way in excess of mine, and he was the man I chose to defer to.

0:23:280:23:31

Yes, I was extremely excited when Andy rang,

0:23:310:23:34

and they also sent me some footage,

0:23:340:23:36

and he did that because he was a bit worried that he'd actually

0:23:360:23:38

maybe given it a wrong attribution. It's such a difficult object.

0:23:380:23:42

In literature, they're invariably described as either an oil lamp,

0:23:420:23:46

and that's actually what Andy thought on the Antiques Roadshow

0:23:460:23:49

that it might be, or it's a perfumed sprinkler.

0:23:490:23:52

When we look at the object, I think neither of those theories

0:23:520:23:56

are really very strong.

0:23:560:23:57

But he also added that the owner of the object might be

0:23:570:24:00

interested in actually donating the object to our museum,

0:24:000:24:04

which was a very exciting prospect.

0:24:040:24:07

The owner, John Desmond, was true to his word

0:24:070:24:10

and arranged for the piece to join the glass collection at the V&A,

0:24:100:24:14

much to expert Andy McConnell's delight.

0:24:140:24:17

I'll tell you what. See that?

0:24:170:24:20

That's my hair standing on end.

0:24:200:24:23

It really is, because, I mean, you know, how good does life get?

0:24:230:24:28

You know, to be able to... It's just the complete package.

0:24:280:24:32

We have pleased owners, they're delighted where it is.

0:24:320:24:35

We've got a pleased museum, the whole thing is the complete package.

0:24:350:24:39

It just ends up where it should be.

0:24:390:24:42

And I've played a role in it.

0:24:420:24:43

I think the object is unique as far as I know. It's not really...

0:24:460:24:50

I don't know of any parallel of that period.

0:24:500:24:54

I think if you look at the way it's made and the material,

0:24:540:24:58

it's probably made in Bohemia, probably around 1700 to 1750.

0:24:580:25:04

Bohemia is in the Czech Republic and there's nothing from that period

0:25:040:25:09

which really compares to this very complex object.

0:25:090:25:13

So that solved part of the mystery -

0:25:130:25:15

when it was made and where it was produced. But Reino recognised it

0:25:150:25:20

as an important object, a rare 18th century drinking vessel.

0:25:200:25:25

Almost certainly is.

0:25:250:25:26

It's a trick glass and so it's two bottles that will be filled up

0:25:260:25:31

with liquid and I think in this case it would be water and wine.

0:25:310:25:35

Wine wasn't drunk straight in that time, so you actually want

0:25:350:25:39

to mix them to make it palatable, and so if you tip the glass

0:25:390:25:43

towards you, you can actually cover the two spouts,

0:25:430:25:46

on the back of the two animals,

0:25:460:25:48

with your thumbs and you can actually regulate the flow.

0:25:480:25:52

And then that would be very exciting to do that today,

0:25:520:25:54

for the first time in maybe 250 years.

0:25:540:25:59

Andy recently went along to the Victoria and Albert Museum

0:25:590:26:01

to meet up with Reino and to play a vital part

0:26:010:26:04

in learning how this trick glass works.

0:26:040:26:07

So, hello, Andy.

0:26:100:26:12

-Hi.

-Very nice to see you and at a very special occasion.

0:26:120:26:15

I mean, we normally don't fill up our historic glasses

0:26:150:26:18

and actually try them out in this museum, but as we wanted

0:26:180:26:22

to do this from the start,

0:26:220:26:23

to find out the proper function of this object,

0:26:230:26:26

we're going to do this in a controlled environment.

0:26:260:26:29

We also are so excited, because this is probably the first time since

0:26:290:26:33

250 years that this object is used correctly.

0:26:330:26:37

And you're going to be the guinea pig.

0:26:370:26:40

-So, how exciting is that?

-Oh, I'm blessed.

0:26:400:26:42

Oh, this is a perk of the job, to have the freedom

0:26:420:26:46

to make a complete idiot of yourself.

0:26:460:26:49

It's not often you get this chance, so clearly what I'm going to try

0:26:490:26:53

and do is get the liquid up into the kind of schweinhund's mouths

0:26:530:26:57

and then into the plate and see how we go.

0:26:570:27:00

Ahh!

0:27:090:27:10

We would have made a mess of the Archduke's table, wouldn't we?

0:27:100:27:15

But I think there could be an additional trick.

0:27:150:27:17

I think if you tried to cover the both spouts with your thumbs

0:27:170:27:21

-then you actually might be able to control the liquid flow.

-OK.

0:27:210:27:25

So try that and see if it goes a bit more subtly.

0:27:250:27:28

Yes!

0:27:280:27:30

-There we go.

-Here we go, let's try it like this.

0:27:310:27:35

Let's just see it coming up.

0:27:350:27:37

Oh, look! A gentle sip.

0:27:370:27:41

-Another gentle sip.

-Fantastic.

0:27:450:27:47

I think it's a superior method, I have to admit it.

0:27:470:27:49

Well, it's so exciting to see it actually working, it's wonderful.

0:27:520:27:56

-This makes a huge difference.

-Oh, really?

0:27:560:27:58

-Having the fingers, it's like having a tap, it really is.

-Oh, good.

0:27:580:28:01

And it's clearly what the owner would have known, wouldn't he?

0:28:010:28:04

The owner of the original would have practised this.

0:28:040:28:07

He would have got it down to a fine art.

0:28:070:28:09

Absolutely, yes.

0:28:090:28:10

And then passed it to his neighbour at dinner and said, "You have a go".

0:28:100:28:13

Absolutely, and they would have completely failed.

0:28:130:28:16

And they would have...

0:28:160:28:18

Messed everything up. Fantastic.

0:28:180:28:20

So, does the V&A have a laundry?

0:28:220:28:24

And if you want to see the trick glass,

0:28:260:28:28

it will be on display in the Glass Gallery

0:28:280:28:31

at the Victoria and Albert Museum in London from New Year's Day onwards.

0:28:310:28:35

Earlier, we saw that remarkable chest that was first seen

0:28:350:28:38

on the programme in Scotland by our furniture expert, Christopher Payne.

0:28:380:28:42

It's thought to have started life here, at Hampton Court Palace.

0:28:420:28:46

Christopher will be joining us in a moment to find out.

0:28:460:28:48

It was bought by two spinster great aunts of my mother

0:28:500:28:54

and they, we think, bought it in about 1880 through a friend

0:28:540:28:58

who was a Quaker in Birmingham.

0:28:580:29:00

It's always been known in the family as the Queen Anne chest.

0:29:000:29:03

Now, I have no idea whether it genuinely is or not,

0:29:030:29:08

but I have known it all my life.

0:29:080:29:10

I mean, she was Queen let's say circa 1700,

0:29:100:29:13

-so that's a long time ago.

-Yes.

-300 years ago.

0:29:130:29:16

It is the most extraordinary thing.

0:29:160:29:19

I've never seen one.

0:29:190:29:21

The next stage is to try and research this.

0:29:210:29:24

Christopher, earlier on this year, you saw at Cawdor Castle

0:29:240:29:27

-a piece of furniture that you described as "the ultimate research project."

-Yes.

0:29:270:29:31

-Rachel, this is your chest, in a manner of speaking.

-It is indeed.

0:29:310:29:34

-And you've come all the way down from Scotland...

-Yes.

-..to Hampton Court Palace.

0:29:340:29:38

-Potentially rather exciting.

-It is indeed.

0:29:380:29:40

I might finally find out the reality of it, so I'm very excited.

0:29:400:29:44

And Christopher, what is it that you'd really like to know, then?

0:29:440:29:47

Well, I think the most important thing is, was it actually used or made for Queen Anne?

0:29:470:29:51

I'm sure it must have been, but can we prove it?

0:29:510:29:54

We know so little about her. We know that this was one of her palaces,

0:29:540:29:57

Hampton Court, so she came here, she lived here, she went on the royal progress here.

0:29:570:30:01

Was this trunk used for that purpose?

0:30:010:30:03

She's extraordinary. She was the last of the Stuart monarchs,

0:30:030:30:07

had 17 children in 17 years, but none survived,

0:30:070:30:10

so the end of the line.

0:30:100:30:12

And we'd love to know more about this.

0:30:120:30:14

Was it used for her on her royal progress?

0:30:140:30:16

There's questions just coming out all the time.

0:30:160:30:18

Well, I think today you're going to find out,

0:30:180:30:21

because we've arranged for Dr Olivia Fryman,

0:30:210:30:23

of Historic Royal Palaces, to be here to meet you both.

0:30:230:30:26

The chest is here, as well, and she's waiting for you

0:30:260:30:28

on the King's Staircase, no less,

0:30:280:30:30

-which is that way. So, go and find out.

-Let's go and have a look.

0:30:300:30:35

Hello. So lovely to see you at Hampton Court.

0:30:470:30:52

We're here in the King's Great Staircase,

0:30:520:30:55

painted for William III, so it's a room that Queen Anne herself would have known.

0:30:550:31:00

So, Rachel, you said you'd always known this as the Queen Anne chest

0:31:000:31:03

and I think absolutely we can associate this with Queen Anne.

0:31:030:31:07

-That's wonderful news.

-Anne reigned from 1702 to 1714.

0:31:070:31:11

She was the last of a long line of Stuart monarchs

0:31:110:31:15

and Anne regularly travelled between her palaces.

0:31:150:31:18

We know that she stayed here at Hampton Court.

0:31:180:31:20

She also stayed at Kensington, St James's and Windsor.

0:31:200:31:24

She also went on progresses where she would visit

0:31:240:31:27

the towns and cities, the provinces

0:31:270:31:29

or the households of noble courtiers.

0:31:290:31:31

And on occasions like this, this kind of chest would have been used

0:31:310:31:35

to transport the Queen's possessions.

0:31:350:31:37

Well, I can imagine it being manhandled, literally.

0:31:370:31:39

These two big handles on the side being carried in by porters,

0:31:390:31:43

dumped in the main hall possibly, and, you know, Queen Anne wanting

0:31:430:31:46

her night shift or gloves or something because she's cold, or changing garments.

0:31:460:31:50

It's extraordinary. It would have been wheeled into this house somewhere,

0:31:500:31:54

if not the Great Hall, perhaps.

0:31:540:31:56

Absolutely. When the court moved, all of her belongings were packed up

0:31:560:31:59

and put on wagons and taken with her.

0:31:590:32:02

So I've also been able to identify some potential makers

0:32:020:32:05

-for this piece.

-Right.

-At the national archives,

0:32:050:32:09

we have all of the bills relating to the furniture that was provided

0:32:090:32:12

for the royal household and I think it's very likely that this piece

0:32:120:32:15

was made by one of the coffer makers to the great wardrobe.

0:32:150:32:18

Now, there are two coffer makers during Anne's reign,

0:32:180:32:21

Richard Peak and William Johnson.

0:32:210:32:23

We know from their bills that they were providing

0:32:230:32:25

leather-covered furniture that was very similar to this piece.

0:32:250:32:29

Now, I've brought one of Johnson's bills along to show you today.

0:32:290:32:32

This one dates from 1713 and as you can see here,

0:32:320:32:35

Johnson is providing a large cabinet,

0:32:350:32:38

a large trunk, and a trunk with drawers.

0:32:380:32:42

And these are all covered in Russia leather

0:32:420:32:44

and garnished with gilt nails, the brass studs.

0:32:440:32:48

So, in terms of their description,

0:32:480:32:50

they're very, very similar to this piece.

0:32:500:32:52

We know from the accounts that they were intended for storing

0:32:520:32:55

the Queen's body linen. So, her bed sheets, her pillowcases

0:32:550:32:58

and her undergarments.

0:32:580:33:00

I've also been able to identify some other examples.

0:33:000:33:04

This particular piece is perhaps the closest match we can find.

0:33:040:33:08

This is now at Scotney Castle in Kent.

0:33:080:33:10

So, in terms of the design, you can see here, the tulip design

0:33:100:33:15

in the brass studding which is very similar

0:33:150:33:17

and also the lock plate is very similar to the one in your piece.

0:33:170:33:20

And on the top here, there's also "AR",

0:33:200:33:23

so we can certainly say that this one was also made

0:33:230:33:25

during the reign of Queen Anne.

0:33:250:33:27

And is it right that one opens at the top and then has two drawers

0:33:270:33:30

-at the bottom?

-Yes, absolutely.

0:33:300:33:32

What we've not been able to find is an exact match for your piece.

0:33:320:33:35

Yours has four drawers, whereas this one has two drawers

0:33:350:33:38

-and a trunk top. This seems to be the more typical arrangement.

-Right.

0:33:380:33:42

But in terms of the design and everything, of course,

0:33:420:33:45

-very, very similar.

-Yes.

-I think it makes yours much rarer.

0:33:450:33:48

I've just never heard or seen of one as a chest of drawers.

0:33:480:33:51

It just is simply drawers. Yes, yes.

0:33:510:33:54

So, Rachel, that's amazing. It's so exciting.

0:33:540:33:58

You keep this in the hall or the landing somewhere?

0:33:580:34:00

-It lives on my landing, yes.

-Doing nothing in particular?

0:34:000:34:03

I mean, what was just a piece of household furniture,

0:34:030:34:07

as far as we was concerned, one that I'd known all my life

0:34:070:34:10

and I loved, but nothing to me particularly considered to be

0:34:100:34:15

particularly special. I just wanted to know if there was a connection to Queen Anne

0:34:150:34:19

and I seem to have found out a great deal more than I expected.

0:34:190:34:22

-And me. And I think it's come home, don't you?

-Absolutely.

0:34:220:34:26

It feels rather like it. I certainly never thought,

0:34:260:34:29

when it went to the Roadshow 18 months ago,

0:34:290:34:32

no way did I think that I was going to be, 18 months later,

0:34:320:34:35

standing in Hampton Court with experts looking at it

0:34:350:34:39

and telling me so much about it.

0:34:390:34:41

I just rather wish my mother was still alive to know that

0:34:410:34:44

because I think she'd have been thrilled as well.

0:34:440:34:47

Following filming, Rachel decided that she would like to leave

0:34:470:34:50

the chest at Hampton Court Palace

0:34:500:34:52

where further research by their team can now be undertaken.

0:34:520:34:56

And that chest isn't the only object we've learnt more about

0:34:560:34:59

following its appearance on the Antiques Roadshow this year.

0:34:590:35:02

So, what do you know about HM Young?

0:35:020:35:05

-HM Young was in the Dam Busters.

-Exactly.

0:35:050:35:09

This oar, apparently from the 1938 Boat Race,

0:35:090:35:12

appeared at our show in Stowe recently.

0:35:120:35:15

The theory being that it was owned by a man who famously went on to play

0:35:150:35:18

a vital role in the Dam Busters raid in World War II.

0:35:180:35:22

Henry Melville Young, born 1915.

0:35:220:35:26

He was recruited to join 617, the Dam Busters' Squadron.

0:35:260:35:31

He was one of the crack pilots brought in, with his crew,

0:35:310:35:35

to join that elite squadron to do that very particular thing.

0:35:350:35:39

And in May, 1943, they all set off on Operation Chastise,

0:35:390:35:44

-which, of course, was the famous dams raid.

-Yes.

0:35:440:35:47

Well, sharp-eyed viewers contacted us after the broadcast

0:35:470:35:50

to point out that the oar, which had been found in a skip,

0:35:500:35:53

looked remarkably similar to a prop

0:35:530:35:55

featured in the 1955 Dam Busters film.

0:35:550:35:59

But even though it's not the original,

0:35:590:36:01

it still has value as a piece of movie memorabilia.

0:36:010:36:04

It's 50 years since the notorious Great Train Robbery

0:36:050:36:09

and this Monopoly board was brought into our show

0:36:090:36:11

with a remarkable link to the event.

0:36:110:36:14

It's a very important board because it forms part of history.

0:36:140:36:19

-In 1963, a Royal Mail train was held up in Buckinghamshire.

-Indeed.

0:36:190:36:26

£2.5 million was stolen and the train robbers went to a farmhouse

0:36:260:36:32

and whilst they were there, to bide their time away,

0:36:320:36:35

they played Monopoly and this is the actual Monopoly board

0:36:350:36:39

of the Great Train Robbery. Well, it's reputed that

0:36:390:36:41

-they actually played with real money as opposed to Monopoly money.

-Right.

0:36:410:36:45

-But eventually, they discovered where they'd been hiding out...

-Yes.

0:36:450:36:51

..so they had to make a quick get away.

0:36:510:36:53

I understand that somebody was paid a great deal of money

0:36:530:36:57

to rid the farmhouse of evidence,

0:36:570:36:59

and the man took the money, but he didn't get rid of the evidence.

0:36:590:37:04

The money which we have on display was also treated for fingerprints,

0:37:040:37:10

and on this particular one here,

0:37:100:37:13

we've got fingerprints from one of the train robbers.

0:37:130:37:17

Ken, who looks after the board on behalf of the Thames Valley Police Museum,

0:37:170:37:22

tells us that after the Roadshow, they were offered

0:37:220:37:25

thousands of pounds for the game,

0:37:250:37:26

offers they've refused, especially after seeing the queues

0:37:260:37:29

that lined up to see it when they put it on show after its TV appearance.

0:37:290:37:33

That piece has the honour of being

0:37:330:37:35

the most infamous object we've screened.

0:37:350:37:37

Meanwhile, at our Chatham show, Hilary Kay met a man who was

0:37:390:37:43

inspired by a very different historical event.

0:37:430:37:46

Well, here we are in the County of Kent.

0:37:460:37:48

I didn't know what I'd see today, but I wasn't expecting to see

0:37:480:37:51

a copy of the Bayeux Tapestry. How long is it?

0:37:510:37:54

It's approximately 40 ft.

0:37:540:37:55

Presumably, you went to Bayeux where you were completely inspired

0:37:550:37:59

-and got home and got out your needle and thread.

-No.

0:37:590:38:02

-Oh. So, what happened?

-Sorry to disappoint you!

0:38:020:38:04

I've never been to Bayeux. I've never seen the original.

0:38:040:38:07

I started it about 17 years ago, but I've actually done

0:38:070:38:11

probably the best part of 14 years, a couple of hours every day.

0:38:110:38:15

This replica of the Bayeux Tapestry created by a visitor, Andy,

0:38:150:38:19

caused quite a stir after appearing on the show.

0:38:190:38:22

He's had offers to display it in exhibitions across the UK

0:38:220:38:25

and was even invited out to the Bayeux Tapestry Museum in Normandy

0:38:250:38:29

where he tells us he enjoyed comparing it to the original.

0:38:290:38:32

And finally, our programme from Newstead Abbey,

0:38:340:38:37

which is looked after by Nottingham City Council,

0:38:370:38:39

saw this rare medal arrive, won by a racing pigeon called Cologne

0:38:390:38:43

that had played a valuable role in World War II.

0:38:430:38:47

Since showing the item, the owner, Sarah, tells us

0:38:470:38:50

she's received new information from family members

0:38:500:38:53

who recall the brave bird returning from his mission

0:38:530:38:55

exhausted and wounded. Dramatically, they had to perform

0:38:550:38:59

an operation to remove shrapnel from his chest.

0:38:590:39:02

Cologne was my grandfather's pigeon.

0:39:020:39:05

My grandfather was the pigeon service officer

0:39:050:39:10

during the Second World War for the East Midlands

0:39:100:39:12

and he was in charge of the pigeons that went up on the bombers

0:39:120:39:16

during the war. Cologne had been on over 100 sorties

0:39:160:39:21

and he was on a flight in June, 1943,

0:39:210:39:26

and the plane crashed over Cologne,

0:39:260:39:29

hence why the pigeon was named Cologne.

0:39:290:39:31

The plane and the crew were lost,

0:39:310:39:33

but Cologne managed to arrive back at my grandfather's house

0:39:330:39:37

a fortnight later, very badly injured

0:39:370:39:41

with his breast bone completely broken

0:39:410:39:43

and the feathers had started to grow over it

0:39:430:39:46

and he was awarded the Dickin Medal, the animals' VC, for his bravery.

0:39:460:39:52

After appearing on the Roadshow, Sarah and her brother were invited

0:39:520:39:56

to attend the Remembrance Day commemorations.

0:39:560:39:58

There, they marched past the Cenotaph,

0:39:580:40:00

proudly holding Cologne's medal

0:40:000:40:02

as part of the tributes to animals in war.

0:40:020:40:05

Next year marks the anniversary of the outbreak of the First World War.

0:40:080:40:12

You may recall our appeal for your family stories

0:40:120:40:14

connected to those years between 1914 and 1918.

0:40:140:40:18

We received over 3,000 responses

0:40:180:40:21

and earlier this year, we selected a small group of visitors

0:40:210:40:24

to join us at the Somme battlefields in Northern France

0:40:240:40:27

to record a special programme which will be shown next year.

0:40:270:40:30

Here's a flavour of that visit.

0:40:300:40:32

The name Edith Cavell resonates

0:40:340:40:37

and for what reason?

0:40:370:40:39

She was a British nurse in Belgium

0:40:390:40:42

during the time of the First World War who was executed by the Germans

0:40:420:40:47

-and your grandmother worked alongside her.

-She did.

0:40:470:40:51

-Edith Cavell knowingly broke some of the rules.

-Yes.

0:40:510:40:56

But, as she said, patriotism is not enough

0:40:560:41:01

-and she paid the ultimate price for that.

-She did.

0:41:010:41:03

We're looking at Alec here.

0:41:100:41:12

-Now, this is his father grieving for his son...

-Yeah.

0:41:120:41:15

..painting him as he saw him...

0:41:150:41:18

-Oh, yes. There's a lot of feeling in that.

-..having been through that loss,

0:41:180:41:21

every brush stroke, thinking about that lost son.

0:41:210:41:25

Well, this is a tin whistle

0:41:290:41:32

and it's perfectly ordinary except that it tells a story

0:41:320:41:36

and the story it tells is of Joe.

0:41:360:41:38

And this is Joe, our Joe, Joseph Thomas Clucas, a corporal

0:41:380:41:42

in the Royal Field Artillery, 57th Ammunition Column,

0:41:420:41:45

who joined as a boy soldier,

0:41:450:41:48

joined the Territorial Army, at the age of 14...

0:41:480:41:50

..and was enlisted at the start of the war,

0:41:520:41:55

as many Territorials were,

0:41:550:41:56

was killed at Passchendaele on 21st October, 1917.

0:41:560:42:01

But between the start of the war, through to 1917,

0:42:010:42:05

this whistle, at some point, saved his life

0:42:050:42:08

because the trace of the bullet that hit it when he was wearing it

0:42:080:42:11

is still in the whistle.

0:42:110:42:13

And while it's worthless, while it means nothing to anybody else,

0:42:130:42:17

to our family, it's priceless

0:42:170:42:19

because it tells the story of a time in our history

0:42:190:42:22

when boys like Joe gave everything they had for us,

0:42:220:42:26

so it's precious to us.

0:42:260:42:28

We've got a picture of three chaps here.

0:42:310:42:33

-I'm guessing he's one of them.

-Yes, that's my

-dad. Yeah?

0:42:330:42:37

-That's his brother, Tom.

-Aye.

0:42:370:42:40

Presumably this was taken before he joined up?

0:42:400:42:43

-Yes. Tom got killed at the Somme.

-Sorry to hear that.

0:42:430:42:47

-Now, this is a picture of your dad with his medal.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:42:470:42:51

He was thin when he came home cos he was a stocky man.

0:42:510:42:55

-Yes. We can see his medal there.

-That's right, yeah.

0:42:550:42:58

-Where's that?

-Oh, it's in the family.

-Good.

-Oh, yes.

0:42:580:43:01

-You haven't brought it today?

-No.

-That's very wise because safety...

0:43:010:43:06

As you haven't got the medal with you,

0:43:060:43:09

we thought that you might like that.

0:43:090:43:12

Oh, wow. Oh, thank you.

0:43:120:43:14

-We've had his name put on the back of it as well.

-Oh!

0:43:140:43:17

And I hope that you will display that

0:43:170:43:20

with that cracking good picture

0:43:200:43:22

and that will become a bit of an heirloom.

0:43:220:43:24

-Oh, thank you so much.

-It's our pleasure.

0:43:240:43:26

There's another reason why we've brought you here today,

0:43:260:43:30

to this particular place. You talked about the men in the photo here

0:43:300:43:34

-and your father and also your Uncle Tom...

-Yes.

0:43:340:43:37

..and he fought here at the Somme and he died here at the Somme.

0:43:370:43:41

This is his cemetery...

0:43:410:43:43

-..and this is where he's buried.

-Is it? Oh!

0:43:440:43:49

So I wondered if you'd like to come and see his grave.

0:43:490:43:53

Look. Here he is.

0:43:530:43:55

-That's a lovely thing to see, that, isn't it?

-It is.

0:44:090:44:13

And the first of two special programmes will be shown

0:44:260:44:28

in the spring of next year.

0:44:280:44:30

Perhaps the biggest reaction we've had to any war-related pieces

0:44:300:44:34

was to the heartbreaking story of newlywed Teddy Burrell,

0:44:340:44:38

who kept the truth about his role in the Second World War from his wife

0:44:380:44:41

to keep her from worrying. Rather than working as ground crew,

0:44:410:44:45

he'd actually enlisted as an air gunner,

0:44:450:44:47

going out on dangerous bombing raids.

0:44:470:44:50

Teddy's plane was shot down, killing all the crew in 1942.

0:44:500:44:53

He left his wife, Maisie, a letter to be sent in the event of his death

0:44:530:44:57

and only then did his true contribution to the war

0:44:570:45:00

come to light, in a tender confession that was recounted

0:45:000:45:04

in our Remembrance Special

0:45:040:45:05

when Hilary Kaye met Maisie's granddaughter, Rachel.

0:45:050:45:08

"When you read this letter, one of two things would probably happened.

0:45:100:45:14

"Either I shall be home, off operations, or I shall be missing.

0:45:140:45:19

"That is why I want to write this letter, dearest.

0:45:190:45:22

"Understand, darling, I was to fly over Germany of a night

0:45:220:45:27

"and also sometimes of a day.

0:45:270:45:29

"It was the one thing you dreaded, wasn't it?

0:45:290:45:32

"That was the reason I didn't tell you.

0:45:320:45:35

"I hadn't the heart, darling, I love you too much.

0:45:350:45:37

"At the moment, there are only two months to go before our baby

0:45:380:45:42

"comes into this world.

0:45:420:45:44

"If you do happen to get this letter in unhappy circumstances...

0:45:440:45:47

"..which I pray to God you won't, remember, darling,

0:45:510:45:54

"unhappy moments often turn into happy ones."

0:45:540:45:57

That single letter prompted so many people to get in touch with us

0:45:590:46:04

to tell us how moved they were by Teddy's story.

0:46:040:46:07

And it made Rachel curious to know more.

0:46:070:46:09

A few months ago I met her at the Exeter Roadshow, where

0:46:090:46:12

she was clutching a box full of letters that she's recently found.

0:46:120:46:15

Look at all these letters. Rachel, we've met before, haven't we,

0:46:150:46:18

-at our Remembrance programme just a few years back.

-Yes.

0:46:180:46:21

Since then, all these letters have emerged, also written by Teddy.

0:46:210:46:28

Tell me about them.

0:46:280:46:30

Well, I didn't know anything of them,

0:46:300:46:32

and my Auntie Jill went to help my Nan Maisie, to sort some

0:46:320:46:37

things out and suddenly came to visit me with this box of letters

0:46:370:46:42

saying, "This is your inheritance", sort of thing, this is for you.

0:46:420:46:46

And since then I've been trying to look through them

0:46:460:46:50

and finding out what they were about,

0:46:500:46:52

but they're basically love letters, and he wrote every day.

0:46:520:46:55

-Every day?

-Yes.

-To Maisie.

-Yes.

0:46:550:46:58

Now there's a letter here you wanted us to have a look at.

0:46:580:47:02

Now tell me about this one.

0:47:020:47:04

Well, that seems to be the last letter he wrote,

0:47:040:47:06

the day before he was shot down.

0:47:060:47:09

So it was posted I think the day that he...

0:47:090:47:13

-10th May 1942.

-He died on the 11th.

0:47:130:47:15

-This was the day before he died.

-Yes.

0:47:150:47:17

"My dearest beloved Maisie,

0:47:170:47:20

"thank you so much for your letter, darling.

0:47:200:47:23

"I was getting a bit worried at not hearing from you,

0:47:230:47:27

"but your letter arrived today, and my worries are over.

0:47:270:47:30

"I meant to write to you last night,

0:47:300:47:33

"but was very busy 'doing my duty to my country'.

0:47:330:47:36

"It was a wonderful leave, wasn't it, dearest?

0:47:360:47:38

"I didn't want to come back here.

0:47:380:47:42

"I'd like to come home and stay for good.

0:47:420:47:45

"We'd be wonderfully happy in our own little home.

0:47:450:47:47

"It's hellish coming back here.

0:47:470:47:48

"I miss you so very, very much, darling."

0:47:480:47:51

-Oh, and then he's put, "I'd go crazy without you."

-I know.

0:47:510:47:55

Gosh! "I miss Valerie, too."

0:47:550:47:58

Oh, my goodness me.

0:47:580:48:00

I think also the fact that he was so young, he was just 21,

0:48:000:48:04

-he had a three-week-old baby.

-Yes.

0:48:040:48:06

-Obviously adored Maisie.

-Yes, definitely, yes.

0:48:060:48:10

-And that was it, and the day after he wrote this letter, he was killed.

-He was killed.

0:48:100:48:14

-They're also a testament to what happened to so many people.

-Exactly.

0:48:140:48:18

And so many families and relationships and passions,

0:48:180:48:23

you know, that were just irrevocably torn apart by the war.

0:48:230:48:27

And then Maisie, and then Valerie - your mum - you know,

0:48:270:48:29

-had to live and pick up the pieces.

-Yes.

0:48:290:48:32

We began this look back on what's proved to be an historic

0:48:360:48:39

year for the Antiques Roadshow with an update on the portrait

0:48:390:48:43

brought along to our show in Cirencester by Father Jamie MacLeod.

0:48:430:48:46

Now he's about to arrive any moment

0:48:460:48:48

here at Hampton Court Palace to find out the answer to his

0:48:480:48:51

all-important question -

0:48:510:48:53

is his painting by the great master, van Dyck?

0:48:530:48:55

Philip Mould, who's overseen the restoration process, is here,

0:48:550:48:58

and Philip, looking at this now, it strikes me that the painting that

0:48:580:49:02

Father Jamie first bought and fell in love with, was very different

0:49:020:49:05

to this, so there's a chance he might not like it so much now.

0:49:050:49:09

I think you're right.

0:49:090:49:10

It is definitely different, in fact, two thirds of the picture

0:49:100:49:13

has pretty well disappeared, but let's not forget that with

0:49:130:49:17

these highly sensitive sketches, often less is more.

0:49:170:49:21

If it is by van Dyck, what are we talking in value terms?

0:49:210:49:26

A sketch of this startling impact - if it is by van Dyck -

0:49:260:49:31

is worth three, perhaps four hundred thousand pounds.

0:49:310:49:33

Wow!

0:49:330:49:36

So that would make this the most valuable painting

0:49:360:49:38

ever to come on the Roadshow.

0:49:380:49:40

'As Father Jamie makes his way to join us,

0:49:440:49:46

'we can only guess how he'll react to the news about his painting.'

0:49:460:49:50

-Hi, Father Jamie, how are you doing?

-Quite well, thank you.

-Very good to see you.

-And you.

0:50:000:50:04

Your painting is under here. It has now been cleaned and restored and you've not seen it, have you?

0:50:040:50:09

-I haven't yet, no.

-Do you want to see it?

-Please...

0:50:090:50:12

-Wow!

-What do you think?

0:50:160:50:18

-Absolutely beautiful, isn't it?

-It's very different.

0:50:180:50:21

It is, completely different, yes, made a very nice job of it.

0:50:210:50:24

I was slightly worried you might not like it so much now,

0:50:240:50:27

-because it's so different from the painting that you bought.

-It is very different, yes.

0:50:270:50:31

You look a little bit shocked.

0:50:310:50:32

Yes, I think it's completely different,

0:50:320:50:35

it's something which is, you know, you remember how it was and

0:50:350:50:38

then there is the period when you've not seen it for such a long time

0:50:380:50:43

that you miss it in a way and it's something that which, you know,

0:50:430:50:47

you don't realise how much you actually love the portrait itself.

0:50:470:50:54

It's a very, very special portrait.

0:50:540:50:55

The character of it tells you something about him,

0:50:550:50:58

-which in a sense is a mystery.

-That mystery is about to be revealed,

0:50:580:51:01

because Philip has been doing a lot of work on this painting.

0:51:010:51:04

I have a theory about this picture.

0:51:040:51:06

Now, in 1634, van Dyck did a huge painting,

0:51:060:51:09

it was called The Magistrates Of Brussels, it was a group

0:51:090:51:12

portrait, but tragically 60 years later it was destroyed

0:51:120:51:16

and it is only known - it's only recorded through a few sketches.

0:51:160:51:22

In fact, I have one of them here in my hand - this is from

0:51:220:51:25

the Ashmolean Museum - and this is, I think, rather similar to yours.

0:51:250:51:30

If you notice the background,

0:51:300:51:32

we've got the same red ground coming through, giving it a warm appearance.

0:51:320:51:36

How the complexion is handled.

0:51:360:51:38

-Mmm.

-That rather choppy, fresh, red and pink look.

0:51:380:51:42

Mmm.

0:51:420:51:44

Now, the other thing that survives,

0:51:440:51:47

apart from, in fact, three of these sketches, is the first idea,

0:51:470:51:52

the preparatory thought by van Dyck, for this picture.

0:51:520:51:57

This is the plan, as it were, as to how it would turn out.

0:51:570:52:00

And if you cast your eye along this composition you will see

0:52:000:52:04

a figure in the right hand corner.

0:52:040:52:06

Do you think there's a possibility,

0:52:060:52:08

looking at that, that it could be the same man?

0:52:080:52:11

Yes, I think, you know, looking at him, there is

0:52:110:52:15

the similarity of the ruffle and, of course, you know,

0:52:150:52:18

looking at the angle it's been taken.

0:52:180:52:20

So, through these art historical scraps,

0:52:200:52:25

we've put together an argument and we've presented it to

0:52:250:52:30

Christopher Brown, who is the Director of the Ashmolean Museum,

0:52:300:52:34

the museum indeed that has two of these sketches.

0:52:340:52:37

And he's also the national expert on van Dyck and we asked him

0:52:370:52:45

whether he was prepared to be quoted - one way or another - saying

0:52:450:52:50

whether this was a work by the great master.

0:52:500:52:53

Well, come on Philip, what did he say?

0:52:530:52:55

Well, Jamie, I'm delighted to be able to tell you that you

0:52:550:53:01

do have a work by Sir Anthony van Dyck.

0:53:010:53:05

And a really interesting one, in as much that it relates to this great

0:53:060:53:12

lost picture that was destroyed in the 1690s, and you have... Your

0:53:120:53:19

sketch joins another two, together with this preparatory work, which are

0:53:190:53:24

testament to this epic painting that is sadly no longer with us.

0:53:240:53:29

So, what do you think?

0:53:290:53:31

You are the owner of a van Dyck.

0:53:310:53:33

I'm just completely shocked, yes, it's just a...

0:53:330:53:38

-A van Dyck!

-It's just amazing, isn't it?

0:53:380:53:41

It's, you know, if only he could speak, he'd be jumping up for joy.

0:53:410:53:47

I remember you told me that if you were to sell this painting,

0:53:480:53:51

you wanted to buy some new bells for your chapel. Is that still the plan?

0:53:510:53:54

Yes, it is still the plan.

0:53:540:53:56

Um, I would like this country to be able to commemorate the 100th

0:53:560:54:01

anniversary of the First World War, and I think that, as a nation,

0:54:010:54:06

we owe that to the people who gave their lives for the world today.

0:54:060:54:11

So, Philip, it's so exciting.

0:54:110:54:14

Now that we know this is by the great master,

0:54:140:54:17

will Father Jamie be able to afford his bells?

0:54:170:54:21

I don't know, Jamie, what the going price for bells is, these days.

0:54:210:54:26

But I can tell you that this will almost certainly assist you.

0:54:260:54:30

It's a wonderfully intimate sketch by the great master.

0:54:300:54:35

The value of this painting is £300,000 to £400,000.

0:54:350:54:39

Gosh, amazing. Very good.

0:54:390:54:43

You just look - you look a bit shocked by it all.

0:54:450:54:49

Yes, I think I am shocked.

0:54:490:54:52

It's... I remember, Philip, you said that it was going to be

0:54:520:54:55

a very harrowing experience, and I think it has,

0:54:550:54:59

and this last few weeks has been rather stressful to say the least.

0:54:590:55:04

And not knowing or, you know, the years it's hung on the wall,

0:55:040:55:10

looking at it, thinking - who are you?

0:55:100:55:12

And the very first time it fell off the wall

0:55:120:55:16

and smashed up my CD player, it was, you know, was it meant to be?

0:55:160:55:24

And, you know, it's just so wonderful, you know, to remember how

0:55:240:55:28

it was and, you know, that it's been restored and equally as nice.

0:55:280:55:33

And can I just say, Jamie, it was harrowing for us as well.

0:55:340:55:39

I mean, this three or four months of watching it change,

0:55:390:55:44

and not only change but largely disappear in the process.

0:55:440:55:46

I mean, two thirds of this painting has simply gone onto

0:55:460:55:50

swabs of cotton wool.

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And to see it now, in this radically different way,

0:55:520:55:56

well, it's amongst the very few examples I can think of,

0:55:560:55:59

of a picture changing quite so much.

0:55:590:56:02

-Your painting.

-Yes.

0:56:020:56:04

Well, if it does sell for the price that Philip's talking about, it

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will be the most valuable painting ever to have come on the Roadshow.

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Can we follow this journey now, with this painting,

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-where it goes from here?

-Be delighted to.

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How exciting!

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I hope you've enjoyed this special episode of the Antiques Roadshow.

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And who knows, it could happen to you.

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So, dust down those treasures and join us in 2014.

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Here are all the different places we'll be visiting,

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and we'll be ready to meet you

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And, by the way, if you enjoyed the story of our van Dyck discovery,

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join Philip Mould and me for a new series of Fake Or Fortune,

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starting on Sunday January 19th.

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In the meantime, on behalf of all our team,

0:57:240:57:27

may I wish you a happy and prosperous New Year.

0:57:270:57:29

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