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Today we're making a return visit to White Lodge, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
a former royal residence. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
Amongst those who've lived here, our current Queen. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
It's listed on her birth certificate as her home address | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
as her parents were living here when she was born. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
So it's a royal welcome to the Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
from Richmond in Surrey. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
White Lodge in Richmond Park | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
was commissioned as a hunting lodge for George I in 1727, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
and became a firm favourite with the royals for generations after. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
It's only 12 miles from the centre of London, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
but it's tucked away discreetly, with some stories to tell. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Queen Victoria despatched the party-loving Prince of Wales here | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
to study, away from the distractions of the capital, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
and then years later he realised that its low profile was just what | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
he needed when he was looking for somewhere to install his mistress, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
Emma Harper. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
And during the Second World War, an American widow leased the lodge | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
and it was used by her son and other US military officers. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
In fact, there's still a room here called Billiards from that time. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
But it's believed that all that was actually a front | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
for undercover American Intelligence Operations. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
For the last 60 years, White Lodge has been filled with the sound | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
of children and music as it's home to the Royal Ballet Lower School. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
The ballet school, originally founded in the 1920s, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
was the inspiration of Dame Ninette de Valois, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
an Irish-born ballerina who danced with the Ballet Russe. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
She also created The Royal Ballet | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
and Birmingham Royal Ballet Companies. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
When she was young, there was no real British ballet tradition, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
and the only performing ballet was by French or Russian troupes. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
Establishing British ballet became her life's work and legacy. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
The Royal Ballet went on to forge its national | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
and international reputation thanks to one of its pupils. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
Peggy Hookham joined the Ballet School seven years after it opened. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
It was immediately apparent there was something special about her. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
She changed her name to Margot Fonteyn, and the rest is history. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
She became the most famous British ballerina of all time. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
And these are her tiny ballet shoes. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
You can see where she's rubbed away the end from dancing on pointes. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
And this is her costume from Swan Lake. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
Today it's our Roadshow experts who will be kept on their toes, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
as our visitors arrive. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Don't forget, to play along with our valuation game, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
just press red on your remote control, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
or go to the Roadshow app on your computer or on your smartphone. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Good luck. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:28 | |
Ooh now, what have we got here? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
-Oh, how pretty. A lovely pair of cuff links. -Mm-hm. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
How did you get hold of these? | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
-These actually belonged to my husband. -Mm-hm. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
He was given them by his American godmother when he was a little boy. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
-Ah. -And he thought, "Ugh, I'm not going to wear those", | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
so his mother wore it for many, many years and then his mum passed away, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
came back to him and he said, again, "I'm not going to wear those", | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
but from my mother-in-law's notes we knew that they were Tiffany, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
so she said. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
And also they were supposed to be sapphires of four different colours, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
which is intriguing to us, so we thought we might see what they are. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
-They have got the signature of Tiffany & Co on them. -OK. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
So they are by Tiffany, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
and yes, you're absolutely right, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
they are four different colours of sapphire. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
-Oh, are they? Oh good, yes. -Yes, they are. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
Of course, the most times we think of sapphire, it's blue. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
-One colour, yes. -One colour blue, there it is. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
They are also the same family, of course, as rubies, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
-so you end up getting pink sapphires as well. -Ah, OK. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
-And we've got a little pink sapphire in there too. -Yes, yes. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
-We've also got a white sapphire. -That's right, yes. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Which I have to say is sometimes used in jewellery to try | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
-and imitate diamond. -Ah, OK, right. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-And then we've got a green sapphire, all the way over there. -Yes, yes. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Now they're all chemical compositions of aluminium oxide, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
but it's all down to trace elements that help to colour the sapphire | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
in different ways. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
So that's basically how you end up with the different colours. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
They date from the late 19th century under the Art Nouveau | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
style of jewellery, which started around 1890 | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
-and lasted into the early part of the 20th century. -Yes. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
Tiffany & Co were really important at the end of the 19th century | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
-because, of course, they are American. -That's right. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
American jewellers, and we were getting so used to | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
- in England and obviously on the Continent - of the French | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
leading the way, and suddenly there was a bit of competition going on. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
And there were a number of exhibitions at the end | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
of the 19th century where Tiffany got involved, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
and Louis Comfort Tiffany started to show jewellery, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
and that's how we end up with the Tiffany we know today. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
They show all the signs of typical Art Nouveau style | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
with the chasing of the decoration. They're very delicate, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
and I can understand why your mother-in-law | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
-wanted to wear them, they're really fantastic in many ways. -Yes. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
Of course, with them being Tiffany & Co, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
it's a name that, as I mentioned earlier, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
is very important in the development of the history of jewellery, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
and these at auction would be worth between £2,000 and £3,000. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
Right. Thank you. That's nice! | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
I think I'll wear them from now on. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
These are East India Company paintings. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Do you know where they represent? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Yes, I believe this one is Canton, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-and this one is Macau. -Yep. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
They could have been ordered by any of the East India Companies, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
of which there were a lot. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
You can see the number of different flags there were, here in Canton. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
And each country had its own...what they called factory, or building. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:43 | |
That view is very well known. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
You get it on fans, you get it on porcelain. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
You don't often see it painted on copper, as we have here. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
The oil on copper technique is purely European, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
it didn't exist before the Europeans got into China. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
And, in fact, it was probably introduced by the Jesuits, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
who were a great influence in the 18th century, and they introduced | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
a lot of things, like the rose pink for example, famille rose. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
But these are fantastically well painted. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
Painted by a Chinese who's been taught to paint by a European. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:26 | |
Macau is much rarer. You don't see that many views of Macau | 0:07:26 | 0:07:33 | |
because the traders had much less reason to go there. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
This strip of land was only 100 yards wide | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
-and beyond that, the Europeans were not allowed to penetrate. -Yes. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
There was a fire, and most of the factories were burned down, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
which I think happened about 1840, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
but I think these are pre-that. Just from the style of the painting, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
they look to me probably 1810-1820, somewhere around there. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Presumably you didn't buy them out there at the time. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
-No, no. -So where did they come from? | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
We lived in Hong Kong, but they were actually given to me | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
by an elderly friend of my mother's. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
She died about 30 years ago and she'd had them | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
from her father and her grandfather, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
who were in the Navy. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Well, they're the sort of thing | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
which has enormously risen in value recently | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
because of the interest from the Chinese themselves. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
It wouldn't be difficult to see those making... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
-£5,000 - £8,000 for the pair. -Good lord! | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Maybe even a bit more. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
It seems crazy for a couple of postcards. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
It must be a world record. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
-Well, The Kiss of a Cossack, a wonderful Russian subject. -Indeed. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
What's your connection with Russia? | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
Well, it's actually not my connection. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
The bronze came into my possession as a gift | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
from my father, who was a doctor, and he had some patients which I believe | 0:09:03 | 0:09:09 | |
were from Russian descent, and my father looked after the husband | 0:09:09 | 0:09:16 | |
for quite some time, and then unfortunately when he died, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
the wife said to my father, "Would you please let us give you this bronze?" | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
Because every time he used to go and visit them in their house, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
-and so on, he always used to admire the bronze. -Yes. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
So that's how basically it came into our family. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
-Yes, as a token of gratitude. -Yeah, yeah, indeed so. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
-It dates from the sort of late 1870s. -OK. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
When the art market was really looking back several centuries | 0:09:37 | 0:09:44 | |
to these iconic images of Russia, the troikas, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
the saints, the Tsars, the hunting, the shooting. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
And this is a wonderful depiction of a Cossack, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
he's obviously in... I think a farewell embrace. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
Yes, you could say that. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
It's funny, a lot of men say farewell to their loved ones, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
-never to be seen again. -In those times, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
I should imagine that was probably more prevalent than anything else. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
Absolutely. Traditionally, of course, the Cossacks were | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
the bodyguards of the Tsar. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
-This was actually made under the Tsar Alexander II. -Right. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
And, of course, it's signed by a very well-known | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Russian bronze sculptor. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
I mean, I did try and look it up on the internet, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
-but I'm afraid my Russian wasn't very good! -Well, don't worry. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Trying to put in the characters was even harder. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
-Well, it's in Cyrillic, and it's Vassili Grachev. -Right. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:36 | |
-And he was St Petersburg-based. -OK. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
-And produced a huge range of very exquisite cast bronzes. -Right. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
We also have the name of the foundry. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
Oh, yeah, I did wonder what that was. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
Well, that actually says "fab", F-A-B for fabrique. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
-So, that would be fabrique, yeah. -So "made", | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
and the foundry is Woerffel, a very well-respected foundry, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
and you can see how crisply it's been done. You know, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
I just love all the detail, the traditional fur hat. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Yeah, I mean what tickles me | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
is that the girl's feet are off the ground in the embrace. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
It's absolutely lovely. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
As he's about to gallop away into the snowy regions. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
There is a big demand now from wealthy Russians to repatriate | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
-some of their great... -The oligarchs. -That's right. -Oh, right. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
So, you know, it has a value that's much higher | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
than it would have been this time ten years ago. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
Today at auction you'd be looking at about £3,500 at auction. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
Really? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
That's quite nice, considering it didn't cost me anything at all. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
Well, exactly. It was a gift of gratitude. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Yes, absolutely, yeah. And it's something that I think | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
we will probably try and keep in the family. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
What at first looks like | 0:11:45 | 0:11:46 | |
a really rather charming little Regency table, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
a little drum table, it's got an inset top | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
and it's obviously got an interesting story to go with it, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
so tell me about it. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
Who is this chap in the middle, and why is he there? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
He is Sir Edward Banks, and he and Mr Joliffe | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
were the constructors and surveyors who built Old London Bridge. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
This purports to be timber from underneath Old London Bridge. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
In fact, that is what the plaque on the side says. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
So this timber could be a thousand years old? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Yes, yes. In as much that London Bridge, Old London Bridge, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
-was started off with the Romans, and then of course it... -Yeah. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
And William the Conqueror actually rebuilt it, and it may well be | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
the timbers that were underneath when he rebuilt it. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
-Could be, could be. -Well, well. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
A couple of things from my point of view. I love this period | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
because you can date with reasonable accuracy things made after about | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
1810, because they were publishing books of fashion and design. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
And in 1827, a chap called George Smith, a very well-known | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
cabinet maker and funeral arranger, he drew the designs that were most | 0:12:49 | 0:12:55 | |
popular, which became the standard practice for about 15 years, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
and if we start at the bottom, you see this marvellous sort of petal. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
-Yes. -And then this leaf here, formalised leaf, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
he drew that in 1827, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
so we know within ten years of that, that this would have been made, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
just from that alone. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
Because after that, it went out of fashion, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
and the Victorians added their own sort of idea and interpretation. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
The other interesting thing about it is that, first of all, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
it's a little drum table, but here, see that little knob thing there? | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
-Yes. -That is the hinge of a ring which sat inside there, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:34 | |
off a chest of drawers or off of a piece of furniture, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
-which indicates immediately that you pulled it and lifted it. -Really? | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-Do you see what I mean? -Yes, yes, I do, yes, yes. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
So that tells me that the top is either hinged, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
or it lifts up from the middle, and in fact it lifts up from the middle. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
I'm going to take it right out, OK. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
-Now, you see these dents here? -Yes. -Right? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
Those are caused by... There's a screw under here, isn't there? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
-Yes, there is, I've often wondered what it was for. -OK. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
You can tighten that screw | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
and you can lift the top and use it. This has been cut off at some time. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
You could raise it to there and then you could get to | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
all your little bits and pieces in this work table, and it was | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
full of silks and needlework and satins, wonderful. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
So it looked like a little treasure box when you opened it. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
But it is fantastic. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Now, the interesting thing is, that this isn't oak, this is rosewood. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
-Really? -So it's veneered. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
That's a bit of very early oak veneer, which they've put | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
onto a solid rosewood base. There. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
I mean, apart from the history, which is without doubt correct, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:40 | |
because there were a lot of the early timbers, and there are lots | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
of pieces of furniture made from this oak | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
under the Old London Bridge. How is it yours? | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
-Well, my grandmother had it and she was very keen on auctions. -Oh, I see! | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
She doubtless picked it up somewhere. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Oh, good for her. Well, as an attractive | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
and really pretty little piece of furniture, with that added history, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
I have no question about putting £2,500 on it, as a valuation for it. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:10 | |
I think it's just charming. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
This is an undeniably good-looking casket. Where did it come from? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
I was in the Merchant Navy | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
and I went down to Australia in the early '60s | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
and I saw it in a junk shop there and I thought, "Oh, this is lovely". | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
-Junk shop? -Yes, yes. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
But it was hidden away, and at that time | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
I earned about 14 pounds, 16 and eight pence a month | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
and it cost me a fiver, so it was quite a large outlay at that time. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
Had you any thoughts | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
when you first spied it in Australia as to where it might have come from? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
-No, no idea. -It doesn't look particularly Australian, does it? | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
-IN AUSTRALIAN ACCENT: Nah, mate! -And it's certainly European. -Mmm. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
-But actually it's from, it's from two countries. -Yes? | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
The panels themselves are pietra dura panels, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
-almost like semi-precious stone marquetry. -Yes. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
-There were workshops in Italy, in Rome and Florence. -Mmm. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
And these five panels, because there's even a panel to the back, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
-were made in the mid-19th century in Italy. -Mm-hm. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
And they then would have been exported from Italy to be laid | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
on a casket like this. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:27 | |
But the actual gilt metal, the ormolu, was not made in Italy. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
-Uh-huh. -The quality of the gilt metal, the ormolu, is so good. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:38 | |
Now, when I first looked at it, I sort of had this thing - | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
-is it France, or is it England? -Yes. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
-Because the French are so well-known for producing ormolu. -Yes. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
But looking at some of these features, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
and I think almost the most revealing feature | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
is this beautifully plain, high-quality, chamfered border | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
-to the inside. -Yes. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
-I think it's English. -Oh! | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
And what it reminds me of is the cases for carriage clocks | 0:17:06 | 0:17:13 | |
-that were made in England in the mid 19th century. -Yes. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
I think this was made around 1860, and the carriage clocks | 0:17:16 | 0:17:22 | |
that were made in cases that had these features, were the top ones | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
-made by Dent, McCabe, Cole, and we don't know who made this. -No. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
-But that is why I think it's an English case. -Yes. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
I think you chose well. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:36 | |
I think it's a very good choice | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
because your five pounds is now £3,000. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
Great Scott! | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
Maybe £3,500. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Good lord, I think I'll faint. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
Well, thank you. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
This is a really lovely thing you've brought in here. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
I'm kind of almost surprised to see it here, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
although some lovely things have been brought to the show today. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
I never thought I'd ever see one of these. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
-You know what it is, don't you? -I do indeed. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
-I've been told it's a Maori feather box. -Yeah, it is. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
Called a waka huia | 0:18:09 | 0:18:10 | |
because it contained the black and white feathers of a huia bird, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
which they used to put in their hair. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
They were considered as treasure. Have you had this a long time? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:24 | |
It's been in the family a long time. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
It was originally owned by Thomas Armstrong, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
who was the art director of what was then the South Kensington Museum. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
-The V&A? -The V&A as it is today. -Wow. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
And it gradually it descended then through our family | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
and it's ended up with me, so I've known it for quite a few years. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
I wonder how it got into his hands. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
I suppose you don't know that, do you? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
-Well, I think he was a great networker. -I see. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
And he had a lot of connections in the art world, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
and a lot of things came his way, shall we say. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
When did he work there as the art director? | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
In the sort of last half of the 19th century. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
That's extraordinary, because this comes a long, long way, you know, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
from the Southern Hemisphere, in the Pacific, you know, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
the Maori were Polynesian people. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
He had a large personal collection of ark work which... | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
How he got it, we don't really know. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
That's extraordinary. It's a beautiful colour. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
They didn't just keep feathers in them, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
they kept jewels or things that they wore, anything precious. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
I mean, the carving is curvilinear | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
and it's very beautiful with these teaky-like heads at the end. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
I would put it into about 1810-1820. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
I think it's got a reasonable value. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
With good provenance, these can make £15,000 - £20,000. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
That's fantastic. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
But I think this one, without provenance, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
I would value at something like £7,000 - £9,000. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
Even so, that's fantastic. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
I really think it is quite stunning. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
Hitler's face at the bottom of a patriotic potty. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
How did you come by this fine, fine piece of china? | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
It belonged to a very old friend of mine who died a couple of years ago | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
and I had to clear out his house, and I was given the pot | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
by the executors, because I requested it, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and it sits in our bathroom at home. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
-And you requested it, you particularly liked it? -Yes. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Let's have a look. It's a marvellous thing, isn't it? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
So you've got the swastika here, "Have this on old nasty..." | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
Clearly depositing on Hitler's face here, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
"...yet another violation of Poland" | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
so obviously his annexation of Poland, or his moving into Poland. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
-And it plays a tune as well, doesn't it? -It plays a tune. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
I thought it played two tunes, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
but I think it just plays Rule Britannia. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
So when you lift it up and you've had a tinkle, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
followed by another tinkle, you go... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
POTTY PLAYS RULE BRITANNIA LIKE A MUSIC BOX | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
Recognise that? Very patriotic, how brilliant. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:10 | |
Do you know anything about it, and its value at all? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
No, nothing at all. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
I do know that the gentleman who it belonged to, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
his father was a music hall entertainer in the 1930s. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
But other than that... | 0:21:22 | 0:21:23 | |
Other than that, it was just in the house and I loved it. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Now the thing about this is, clearly it's a kind of, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
a bit of a comedy item, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
and you could think it's just another "fancy that", | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
but actually I've spoken to our experts about it and it's very rare. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
-Really? -It's very rare. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Because of its date, the Second World War, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
this particular period when Hitler... Hitler's storm-troops | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
rode into Poland, and it has quite a significant value. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
-£300. -It'll still sit in our bathroom. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:02 | |
-It's actually £3,000. -Oh, it's not? No, it isn't, is it? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
Wow. It'll still sit in our bathroom! | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
But I will tell my daughter, who will inherit everything, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
she's got to keep it rather than throw it in the tip. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
And not to use it. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
No, no, my husband doesn't use it, I promise you he doesn't. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Microscopes and wedding cakes, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
they seem slightly at odds with each other. What on Earth is the link? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Well, they were both made by my grandfather, David Martin, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
but he was a very meticulous man, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
and you can see from the marvellous decoration on the cakes | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
and all the lovely twiddly bits here, that he loved ornamental things. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
I can see. So his profession was as a what? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
What would we call it? A confectioner, or a pat... | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Yes, the family ran a bakery in Kerrymuir. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
His brother Ratray was the bread baker | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
and my grandfather was the confectioner. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Fantastic, and you're telling me that he actually | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
made these microscopes? | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
Yes, he did, yes, but I think he must have bought the lenses | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
and the objectives, but he made everything else | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
and carved everything else, yes. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
At first glance, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
these look like early microscopes | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
from the 17th century. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
The great names in microscopes, and the invention | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
and perfection of microscopy | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
are Robert Hook and John Marshall. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
Both of them used this system, which is basically | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
-a system of cardboard tubes. -Yes. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
Which go in and out on the barrel to cause the coarse focusing. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:55 | |
Here you've got the reflecting mirror, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
and that you could tilt then, to line it up with the sun | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
-to focus the beam directly onto the slide. -Yes. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
And they used this method to create those early microscopes | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
in the 17th century, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
so your grandfather was following on from a very good tradition. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Now, when do you think your grandfather made these? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
Did he, did he give a date? | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Well, on the sides it says 1887, so I think that would have been about... | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
-He would have been a young man, in his 20s. -Yes. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
And I suppose what I like particularly is the fact that, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
being a Scottish microscope maker, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
he covered this particular barrel in tartan! | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
THEY LAUGH It's sweet, isn't it? Yes. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
It's absolutely fantastic. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
And I like these scrolling supports here. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
They're wonderful. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
Yes, he was a very good wood carver. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
In here there's a commercial thing, the Lord's Prayer on the head | 0:24:53 | 0:24:59 | |
of a pin, and you can actually read it with this microscope. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
-It has got damaged. -There we go. -But that's the head of a pin. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
And it is absolutely...tiny. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
-It takes a bit of fiddling. -I'm sure. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
But I've certainly read it myself. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
What a wonderful party piece that would have been, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
to have looked at that. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:20 | |
The very touching thing was that I became a bacteriologist | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
and my granny sent these down in a big box on the train, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
saying that she thought it would be useful. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
-So do you think the time that you spent with your grandfather... -Yes. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:37 | |
-..looking at these... -Well, maybe! | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
-..propelled you on to your future career? -I wonder, yes! | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
Well, thank you, grandfather. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
To me, they're absolutely charming. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
I don't care if they're not optically the most sophisticated. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Because to me there's been so much enthusiasm and love put into it. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
I would have said that the collection that we have here | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
would probably fetch something around £1,000 to perhaps £1,200. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
-Goodness! Yes, well, that's... -They're lovely. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Well, thank you very much indeed, thank you. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Does she have a name? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
The Green Lady or The Little Dutch Girl. I think The Little Dutch Girl | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
is probably what she's been known as for longer than I can remember. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
And where does she come from? | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
I believe she came from my great grandfather, who acquired her, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
I think, from new, though I'm not sure. Family history | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
says 1851, the Great Exhibition, though I suspect she might be | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
a bit later than that, and she's been in the family ever since. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
Yeah. One of the ways in which you can date a pottery figure | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
is through the face. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
Our interest in human faces changes from decade to decade. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:48 | |
You can almost date her to the decade just by looking at her face. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
This face is a face, not of 1851, The Great Exhibition, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
but of some time around the year 1900. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Does that still square? | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
No, that absolutely squares, yes, that would make perfect sense. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
My great grandfather was about 1890, 1900, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
acquiring a number of pretty objects. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
-So the story about -The -Great Exhibition | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
-could be a story about -a -great exhibition. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
Far more likely, which is what I've suspected for some time, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
because the date didn't quite tie in | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
with what the family history had said. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
-Because exhibitions carried on from 1851. -Exactly. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
There was the first Great Exhibition | 0:27:26 | 0:27:27 | |
and then they carried on well into the early 20th century. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
I'm not too good on national costumes, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
so I don't know whether she's Dutch or whether she could be Breton. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
But what I do know is it is an exceptional piece of modelling. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
She's carrying panniers, and I wonder whether that's a clue to how | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
she was originally intended. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
If she had been bought at an exhibition, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
it's quite possible that these panniers contained, what, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
flowers or cards or something. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
But these go beyond a mere decorative function. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
I think she was intended to carry something. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Very often when you see figures like this, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
they were even intended in shop windows, which is, after all, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
what an exhibition is, it's the shop window for the various potteries. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
Let's just turn her around a little bit and look at the back, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
and the sculptor has really understood human anatomy | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
beautifully, and...I think she's lovely, and down here... | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
She has the most beautiful ankle. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
Yes, and there's this lovely contrast between the glaze, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
the glazed part of her clothes | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
and then the matt enamel of her arms and her legs and her torso. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:35 | |
Depose, that means copyright, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
and then down here we have a very Germanic-looking signature. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
It says Borsdorf. I've looked him up in the book | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
and I just cannot find that name | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
and I'm really, really surprised, because a sculptor of this calibre | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
really you would expect to be recorded. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
So Continental, early 20th century. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
This to me is a show-off piece. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
Oh, I love her, I must say. I absolutely adore her. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
-You're not going to sell her. -No. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
But if I were to see something like this is an auction of late 19th, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:09 | |
early 20th century objects, I would be very surprised | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
-if you could buy her for much less than £2,000. -Gosh, yes. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
She is absolutely... | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
No, she is absolutely lovely, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:22 | |
and thank you very much, that's most interesting. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
The word salver is derived from the Latin salvo, to serve, and in | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
the 18th century salvers like this were carried by a footman, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
usually carrying glasses or a decanter, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
and served to the assembled company. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
But this isn't just an ordinary salver, there's something | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
special about it. So how did it first come into your possession? | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
Well, it comes from my great-great grandmother's family, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
and it was probably in her family for quite a bit of time | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
before that, and she would have been born in the early 1830s. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
And in the family it was known as the Princess Augusta plate, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
and that's all I know about it really. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
-Right, so the A here is not for Alastair, it's for Princess Augusta. -THEY LAUGH | 0:30:03 | 0:30:09 | |
OK, well, historically | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
and from students of silvers' point of view, this is really interesting | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
because it's like the crossover from Baroque decoration | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
of the early 18th century, into the Rococo decoration, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
which really came in in about 1730. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
We've got these wonderful lions confronting serpents | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
on either side, but see how this bit is generally, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
the engraving is symmetrical, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
you've got these equal scrolls coming up here. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
But if we look round the edge, we've got these asymmetrical scrolls | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
all round here, which are much more a feature | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
of the Rococo period, which lasted from about 1730 to 1760. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
-Now, you think this initial is for Princess Augusta. -Yes. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:57 | |
The problem lies in that | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
she was born in 1768, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
and if we turn it over and look at the marks at the bottom here, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:12 | |
we've got a date letter for 1736. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
The maker's mark is RA for Robert Abercrombie, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
and he was a specialist salver maker. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
So it would appear that this initial here was put on at a later date. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:29 | |
Normally, that would be a bit of a down point, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
but the fact that she was the second daughter | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
of George III makes it a little bit more special. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:41 | |
The fact that it is made in silver gilt, which is silver covered | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
in a thin coating of gold, also makes it a little bit special. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
So it's a lot better than just the average salver, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
and trying to put a price on fabulous things is never easy, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
but I think that we're probably getting somewhere close | 0:31:58 | 0:32:04 | |
-to £15,000. -Gosh. Interesting. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
I'm particularly drawn to your 1960s oil painting by Barbara Tate. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
There's a really uncanny resemblance | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
between the little girl in your oil painting | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
and my daughter, who is blonde, seven years old, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
has just got freckles from a summer holiday and has wonderful | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
blue eyes. And this painting is just exquisitely painted. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
The face in particular is like a photo-realist painting. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
I'd love to know a little bit more about how you've come across it. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
Basically, my aunt left it to me about 15 years ago | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
and I was seven when it was... When I was dressing up, it was a hamper, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
I had to put on a dress. I don't really remember too much about it. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
But I think it was called The Hamper. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
I was living at my grandmother's at the time, and she always said that | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
my face had got good bone structure and various different features, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
and that she always wanted to capture that on canvas. And here it is. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
-So hang on a second. This portrait is of you? -Yes. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
And it's painted by your aunt, who was Barbara Tate. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
-That's right, yes. -Oh, this is very fascinating. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
Of course, there isn't a great deal known about Barbara Tate. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
She wrote that rather wonderful book about the 1950s, didn't she? | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
Yes, yes. She wrote a book called The West End Girls | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
and it was published just before she died, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
and it was a bit of an eye opener, I must say. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
The book was very interesting, she lived a very interesting life | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
and the book was about various different characters in there, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
with regards judges and lawyers, and rather seedy times | 0:33:36 | 0:33:43 | |
in the 1950s, which was when she... | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
The book related to the 1950s. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
-So this was when she was a maid in the 1950s. -Yes. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
Living in Soho, obviously lots of prostitutes. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
-She was a maid for a prostitute, wasn't she? -Yes, she was, yes. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
So she had the most extraordinary life. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
She did. And she was a very eccentric lady, had lots of cats | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
-and very interesting, but a very good painter. -Absolutely. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
Now what I know about her, apart from she was a member | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
-of the Society of Women Artists and a president for 15 years... -Yeah. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
..is that during my 27 years in the art world, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
I don't think I've come across many of her pictures. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
No, she didn't really sell many paintings. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
I think she had a few commissions | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
but she didn't actually sell them, she tended to keep them. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
I think I saw about 100 in her house at any one time. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
-I think this is a truly gorgeous portrait. -Thank you. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Really, really beautiful, and that face, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
it really pulls you into the painting. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
If this picture came up at auction, I think lots of people | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
would fall in love with it, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
-so in terms of value, £1,000 - £1,500. -OK, yeah. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
But I absolutely love it, I think it's a great 1960s portrait. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
Thank you. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:53 | |
Diamonds and pearls have been associated with love for centuries | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
and it's beautiful to see so many items here today. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
I understand that each of these pieces has a personal connection | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
regarding your children. How has that come about? | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
It certainly does. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
When I had my son, my darling husband said, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
"I will find you something you absolutely adore," | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
-and with all his love he gave me this one. -Lovely. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
Which was absolutely beyond my imagination. And then, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:38 | |
when Hayley came along, another darling brooch arrived. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
Super. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
And then ten years after my first baby, Tiffany came along, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
-and that's what he gave me for having her. -The pearls. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
-And the diamonds. -And the diamonds. -Fantastic. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
So I've been thoroughly, thoroughly spoilt. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
What about these two, the earrings and the ring? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
How did you acquire those? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
When my grandfather died, about, gosh, 46 years ago, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:08 | |
he left me £1,250, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
which in those days was quite a lot of money for a newly wed, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
and so a relative said, "Put the money into a diamond ring". | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
What a brilliant idea. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:22 | |
We were able to acquire a pair of diamond earrings as well. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
Well, just a little bit of history about the pieces, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
because although we know your personal history regarding them, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
they are all antique pieces of jewellery, effectively, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
and we've got this beautiful clasp on the pearls, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
which dates from the late 19th century, which is set with old | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
-brilliant cut diamonds and also oval old cut diamonds as well. -Really? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
Which have got a lovely softness to them | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
-and they create that very delicate, almost star cluster, effect. -Yes. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
Which was popular in the Victorian period, but all the way through | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
into the '30s and '40s, and then the two brooches, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
the one that you got for your son Ashley, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
which is superb, this one is again from the late 1940s, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:10 | |
early 1950s period, when spray brooches | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
were at the height of fashion | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
and the larger the better, as we see here. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
-Then of course your other daughter, and her name was... -Hayley. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
Hayley, with her beautiful spray brooch as well, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
-slightly later in date, well into the '50s for this one. -Right. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
But the elegance is again being reflected in how fashion | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
was changing during that time too. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
The single stone ring weighs approximately 2.8 carats | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
so we've got a lovely - again - old brilliant cut diamond, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
slightly cushion shaped, but very well cut. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
It's not got much colour to it, which is good when you're | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
-looking at diamonds. You want them to be as white as possible. -Right. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
Having looked at it with a jeweller's loupe, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
-there are some flaws in there. -Yes. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
But it doesn't matter really, does it? | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
-Because you enjoy wearing it anyway. -Oh, yes. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
And it's a beautiful mount that it's set in as well, dating from the late | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
19th, early 20th century as well, so nice and delicate, set in platinum. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
-Yes. -Ticks all the right boxes for many ladies out there. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
And then the earrings, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
-slightly later in date, probably into the 1930s. -Right. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
Total weight of diamonds on each earring is about a carat, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
so again good quality of stones in there too, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
so overall a fantastic collection of jewellery. And I'm sure that | 0:38:24 | 0:38:29 | |
values are important, but it's the sentimental side, really, isn't it, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
-that really does do it for you, definitely. -Oh, absolutely. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
But going through, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
the antique Victorian clasp on the pearls, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
which of course are later cultured pearls, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
-you're looking at a total of about £3,000 at auction for those. -OK. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:50 | |
And then Ashley's brooch here, again, round about £4,500, £5,000 | 0:38:50 | 0:38:56 | |
for that at auction. And the smaller brooch here, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
we're looking at about £1,500 at auction for that. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
For the initial £1,250 that you spent, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
the ring will now be worth around about £6,000 at auction, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
and the earrings about £3,000. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Goodness, that's amazing. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
My dear grandfather, bless his soul. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
So a superb collection of jewellery | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
which I know you love wearing, with a total value of £18,500. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
Oh, quickly into the bank, Frank, I think. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Oh, bless you, but it's not the value, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
it's just the beauty that I love. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
-Tell me, do you live in a Gothic mansion? -No, sadly. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
So how come you have these most magnificent | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
Gothic bat wall sconces? | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
Well, I found them at a local car boot sale, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
and I collect animal sculptures, so I wanted to get them straightaway. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
What did you actually pay for these at a car boot sale? | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
I paid £42. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
You're joking! As you've probably spotted, they are stamped Liberty. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
Yes, I saw that. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:07 | |
They weren't actually manufactured by Liberty. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
Liberty, of course, have a very long history of retailing very small | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
sort of artisan-produced goods. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
My feeling is they were probably manufactured by a company | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
called William Tonks in Birmingham, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
who were metal workers in the latter part of the 19th century. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:26 | |
There's not an awful lot known about them, but I do know their work was | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
retailed at Liberty, and this is very typical | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
of the sort of work they did. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
They do actually have a number stamped on the back of them, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
which I'm not sure if you would have ever noticed, it's quite difficult | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
to discern, but that actually gives us a date for between 1890 and 1891. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
The department store on Regent Street opened in 1875 | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
and he was a great purveyor of selling small artisan works, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
and we commonly more know him for the Art and Crafts Movement, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
after about 1900-1910, but of course he was actually in operation | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
from the 1870s. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:03 | |
These, I think, are absolutely magnificent. They're fabulous. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
They're actually... They're cast brass, and this sort of gold | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
highlighting on them, that's just a patination that's done on them, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
-it's not that they've particularly dulled down to that. -Ah. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
It is actually a patination that they're meant to have. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
I supposed it's to make them look rather kind of Gothic. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
So you obviously love them. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
Do you have them on display in your house? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
No, they've been in the attic, actually. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
You're joking? The bats are actually literally living in the attic?! | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
Because I didn't know how to organise the lighting for them, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
whether to get candles or something else. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
Well, obviously when they were manufactured they would have been | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
for candle light, and obviously people do electrify these, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
but my feeling is that they probably should be | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
left as they are. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
With regards to value, I think they're fantastic. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
I have seen them come up for sale before, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
but they are relatively rare, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
and an auction estimate would be sort of £800 to £1,200 on them. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
Pardon? | 0:42:10 | 0:42:11 | |
£800 to £1,200. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Excellent. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
I wasn't expecting that. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
I'll have to get a different house to put them in. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
I'm passionate about Victorian architecture | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
and Victorian design, but also, what really excites me is, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
in a sense, what the Victorians did for us. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
You know, we turn on the tap, and water comes out, which we can drink. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
We flush the loo and it all goes somewhere and gets dealt with. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
That's right. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:51 | |
And that's one of the great legacies of the Victorian period. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
So when I saw these drawings, I thought, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
"This is exactly what I'm really excited about." | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
Because this is that whole process in operation, you know, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
these are the great waterworks, the great pumping houses, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
that made Victorian Britain a safer place. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
Now, you've got lots of these, of which I'm very envious. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
Where did they come from? What's the story? | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
I picked them up near some dustbins. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
They belonged to the firm that I worked for, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
I'm a chartered civil engineer. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
-The firm I worked for was called Hawksley's. -Yes. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
-And... -They were in this business. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
And they were in this business. And these drawings were made | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
actually by the firm of Hawksley, and apparently what happened | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
was that they microfilmed them, and then, because they were short | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
of storage space, they decided to get rid of them. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
And I spotted them before the dustbin men took them away. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
How many did you get? | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
Oh, I don't know, maybe twice as much as I've got here, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
but half were sold at an auction some time ago | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
and I kept the rest, and the rest are here today. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
When you look at this, these are all watercolours. They're all drawings. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
Every detail, somebody has worked out. And look | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
at the way the windows are painted, look at the way the land is painted. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:09 | |
Architectural drawings of the 19th century are just fantastic art work. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
They are, I don't think they could be done nowadays that well. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
Let's just lift this up and look at it. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
It's just... Look, you've got the pumping engine, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
all the boilers, you've got the whole detail. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
This tells you how to build it. Let's move on. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
This one is nice and simple, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
but this is all about architecture. You know, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
what excited the Victorians, it was architecture that drew from history. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:34 | |
This is the chimney for the steam engine. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
It's actually straight into Venice. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
-Yeah. -This is a Venetian campanile or something out of Italy, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
inspired by Ruskin. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
These are functional buildings. But look how exciting they are, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
look at all the iron trim. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
These are a wonderful vision of a lost world to us. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
And here are details for the same pumping house. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:57 | |
Look at the details of the architecture, | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
the wonderful way the doors have been configured. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
Everything is just meticulous in the way it's drawn, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
and with great imagination. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
They're lovely to look at, and of course the other thing | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
that starts in the 19th century is long-distance water supply. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
This is Liverpool Corporation Waterworks, but this is | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
-actually part of the supply chain from the centre of Wales. -Yeah. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
And that vast reservoir built with freshwater which can constantly | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
be drifting down to Liverpool, and Liverpool can grow | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
as a modern city, because it's got a water supply. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
The only thing I can add to that perhaps it there used to be, | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
and I think it still is today, a ton of water delivered to | 0:45:33 | 0:45:37 | |
your door from the middle of Wales is the price of one pint of milk. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Yeah. One pint of milk and you get a ton. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
A ton of water for it, yes. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
And that's because we have this enormous network | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
-set up in the 19th century. -Yeah. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
So you rescued them. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
I think, just going through the piles, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
I mean, obviously this is a very small selection of what you've got. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
Going through them, it was almost impossible to choose what to show | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
because every drawing is wonderful. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
You've rescued something that takes us deep into | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
the great achievements of the 19th century, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
but actually you've rescued something quite valuable. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
The great drawings are going to be... That I've seen, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
are going to be £500 each. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
-Let us say I've seen 30 great drawings, which I have. -Yeah. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
So it's £15,000 for the best ones, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
£20,000 for the lot. And you may have more, I don't know. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
No, that's it, yes. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
So you rescued something that is very valuable in every sense. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
Valuable as history, and as it turns out now, many years on, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
-valuable in money. -Yes, thank you. -Thank you. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
I've seen some wedding cake decorations in my time, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
never one like this. What is it? | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
Well, it's actually an icing sugar replica | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
-of a model of a gully emptier. -A gully emptier? | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
A gully emptier, which is a tanker vehicle | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
-used for liquid waste removal. -So removing stuff from drains? | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
Yeah, that type of thing, that's exactly it, yeah. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
So this was on whose wedding cake? | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
It was on my parents' wedding cake, and they got married in July 1937. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:07 | |
-So this is... -75 years old now. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:08 | |
Why did they choose to have one of those? | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
Because generally, you just have the man and wife on top. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
-So why did they go for a vehicle... -They wanted something different. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
It's not exactly romantic, a vehicle used to empty drains. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
I would have thought drainage clearance is romantic, isn't it?! | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
You're unusual. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
But actually, no, the family business was running a fleet of vehicles | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
for this purpose, and my mum and dad actually met at the company. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
My father was the accountant there, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
my grandfather owned the company, my mother worked there as a | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
secretary. So when they got married in '37, that was it. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
They owed their romance, and your existence, of course, | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
-to the gully emptier. -In one way or another, yes. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
You're never tempted to try a bit of it and see what it tastes like? | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
No, I'm not sure whether 75-year-old icing sugar would be that tasty. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
It's a family heirloom, really. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
And an icon of romance for your family. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
In one way or another, yes. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
We've got two French carriage clocks here. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
This one was made around 1860-1870, this one a bit later, 1870-1880. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:10 | |
And they're both slightly unusual in their way. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
Why did you buy them? | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
I liked the front of it. It reminded me of Breguet, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
and the hands looked Breguet-like, | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
and this was the closest I'm ever going to get | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
to owning a Breguet. I just thought it looked quite pretty. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
-I remember an old expert called Arthur Negus who said... -Of course! | 0:48:28 | 0:48:34 | |
He said, "Always try and buy the best antiques you can". | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
And when I was a young man, I'd just started work, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
I liked clocks, and I bought these clocks, and I spent | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
all my money on these. It wasn't much, but what I had, I spent. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
Can we just briefly take through what they are? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
Let's go for the smaller one first. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
Here is a carriage clock by Drocourt, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
famous carriage clock makers, | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
in a lovely gorge case. And we know it's called a gorge case | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
because the mouldings start at the top | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
and run all the way through to the bottom, and it's first quality. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
Enamel dial with an alarm, day of the week and the date, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
and on top of that, as you I'm sure know, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
is that it's a grande sonnerie carriage clock, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
so on the bottom here we have a lever | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
that allows us to have it on silent, to have it striking the quarters, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
-or the hours -and -the quarters. And this we call grande sonnerie. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
-Yep. -And that is a great rarity. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
But when you combine it with a beautiful case, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
a lovely dial with calendar, grande sonnerie and Drocourt the maker, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:32 | |
it's just a bit special. And carriage clock collectors love them. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
-Normally, small is beautiful. -Right. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
Large, in this case, is better. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
What this has, as you rightly say, it has slight overtone qualities | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
to Abraham Louis Breguet's work, but Breguet died in 1823. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
This carriage clock was made in 1880 or so | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
and it isn't in any way a direct copy of Breguet's work. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
It is quite complicated and it is highly desirable, | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
just like the little one. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
Like this one, it has grande sonnerie, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
so it has the three position selection lever, which we know. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
Like this one, it has the day of the week and it has the calendar, | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
but most of all, which is just what everybody adores, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
at least I do, is we've got the moon face. And when the moon face sits | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
with this rather beautiful blue against this silvered engine-turned | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
dial, it stands out. And that's what gives this carriage clock | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
character, and that doesn't have any, in the same way that this has. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:39 | |
French carriage clock, 1850-1870, grande sonnerie with calendar, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
-it has to be worth between £4,000 and £6,000. -Wow. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
Giant carriage clock, enamel moon face, grand sonnerie, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:54 | |
oversized platform, and it has to be worth between £10,000 and £15,000. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
Wow! That's amazing. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
So it looks like Arthur Negus did you a favour, then. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
-He certainly did. -Good old Arthur. -Thank you very much. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
-Nicky Henson, it's a pleasure to meet you. -Thank you very much. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
Well-known actor from an acting family. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
Well, yes. My father was a very famous actor-manager | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
in musical comedy between the wars, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
between the World Wars, and his name was Leslie Henson. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
Not many people remember him now, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:27 | |
but he was a huge star between the wars. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
If you went to Kent, London, for ten days, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
you'd see the Noel Coward show, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
the Jack Buchanan show and the Leslie Henson show. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
But he actually started in the family business, a butcher. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
He was a butcher in Charterhouse Street in Smithfield, | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
JL Henson & Son, which still exists, apparently. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
And he wanted to be an actor, but he was fascinated by actors | 0:51:45 | 0:51:50 | |
and he used to go to the stage door, particularly places | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
like Sadler's Wells, and buy those postcards that you used to buy. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
-We're talking about late Victorian, early Edwardian period. -Right. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:03 | |
Buy the postcards, sit outside | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
and ask the actors to autograph them, which they did. And he kept | 0:52:05 | 0:52:10 | |
them in a book, the book starts with Henry Irving and goes on from there. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
-Right. -But then, when he becomes an actor, a lot of the people | 0:52:13 | 0:52:18 | |
-he's asked for autographs, he starts to work with. -Yes. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
-And become friends. -Right. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:23 | |
And this went on from the late 1900s up to his death in 1957. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:30 | |
So we've got his friends and his colleagues working, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
and he put them all in this book. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:34 | |
-So we start off, as you say, with Henry Irving. -In the 1880s, 1890s. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
Right, all of them... | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
-All of these ones are signed by the various actors and actresses. -Yes. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
Here's Ellen Terry. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
The first of the Terrys, and Gielgud was a relation to the Terrys, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
the great Terry dynasty that went through theatrical history. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
We've got a nice shot of Noel Coward. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
Who, again, was a friend of Dad's, so "Dear Leslie". | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
And here's a typical one, this is nice, we've got the two photographs. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:04 | |
-Yes. This is Gladys Cooper. -Yeah. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
When Dad met her and worked with her and knew her. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
And he says actually, "When I was younger, I got your autograph," | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
and she finds the younger photograph and writes in a different pen | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
"years ago" underneath Gladys, underneath her signature, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
-Gladys Cooper. -Yes, exclamation marks. -Yeah. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
And then it ends with two nice shots of your dad here. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
Yes, that's Dad in 1917. I don't know what the play is, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
that he's in. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
He only keeps two pictures and they both make him look | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
very, very good looking. It's just a lovely thing that | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
I love to share with people, and when guests come and stay | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
-I'll get it out at dinner parties and stuff like that. -Yes. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
And a lot of old actors, because we're all dying off now, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
will remember all of those people from when they were young. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
Well, if something like this comes up at auction, and it's obviously | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
personal to you and their inscriptions, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
some of which are personal to your father as well, | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
and I would say certainly £1,000 to £1,500. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
-Golly. Thank you very much. -Pleasure. -Terrific. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:08 | |
This is really nice. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:10 | |
Daoist scholars in a mountainous landscape. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
Sages, all of them. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:25 | |
It's my brush pot. It's been with me for over 50 years. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:30 | |
-You're a painter? -I am, yes. -And what sort of things do you paint? | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
Watercolours, oils, bathroom ceilings, anything. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:39 | |
Well, the person that used this as a brush pot, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
probably painted Chinese scrolls and things. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
-I suppose you know that, don't you? -Yes, he did. I do, yes. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
I was told when I bought it that it was Chinese. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
-In England? -Oh, yes. In Lewes in Sussex. -Lewes in Sussex, I know, yes. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
I was there with my wife Neta on holiday, and it had lots | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
of brushes in it at the time. It was the brushes that attracted me. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
-Oh, it had brushes in it? -It had brushes. -Amazing. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
Well, it was outside a junk shop, on a table outside a junk shop. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
So can I venture to ask how much it was? | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
-Ten shillings. -Ten shillings in old money. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
-Including the brushes. -50p. I'm so glad you're still using it... | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
-I am. -..for the function, the purpose it was made for. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
-It's very beautifully carved. -It is. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
Very deep carving. The figures in 3D. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
I mean, it's extraordinary. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:29 | |
You've got pine, you've got creepers actually wrapped round the pine | 0:55:29 | 0:55:36 | |
just here. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
It's cut out of a huge block of a Chinese wood | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
called a Huanghuali wood, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
-which is a wood that they make their best objects from. -Yes. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
I mean, you've got a stream running through here, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
going under a bridge and going in and out of the landscape, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
disappearing and reappearing again. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
The scholars would have gone up the mountain to meet and drink | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
and write poetry. I mean, it really is a joy. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:03 | |
It's about from the mid 1800s, 1860. I mean, you know, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:08 | |
generally known as Qing, the Qing Dynasty, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
And have you never had anybody look at it, or tell you what it is? | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
Well, my wife has looked at it from time to time | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
and said it needs dusting. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
Well, I can see that, there's dust all settling in the ivory. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
It's never been dusted. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
Ten shillings you say it cost you? 50 pence? | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
50 pence. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:28 | |
Well, your 50 pence today, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
in a sale, in the right place, would be £5,000. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:37 | |
-Really? -Really. -Gosh. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
I could buy a lot of sable brushes for £5,000. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
You certainly could. Thanks for bringing it. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
You're most welcome. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
This is Margot Fonteyn, the most famous British ballerina ever. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
This is you, and this is the tiara that Margot Fonteyn was wearing. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:02 | |
-Yes. -And this is a production of The Nutcracker, isn't it? | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
It was, yes, on television, I think it was in 1957-58. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:10 | |
-And you bought this at a sale at an auction room. -Yes. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
So you were at The Royal Ballet School | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
-and then progressed to become a fully-fledged ballet dancer. -Yes. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
And you danced with Fonteyn. What was that like? | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
Wonderful. She was the most charming person, she used to chat | 0:57:20 | 0:57:25 | |
to the cameramen, she'd chat to everybody, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
whether you were the back row of the corps de ballet or whatever. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
-She was just... Everybody adored her. -What made her so special? | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
You know, she'd just come on the stage, | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
rather, I suppose, like Rudolf Nureyev, and you would go, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
"Oh, my goodness" and when she first came on all our knees | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
were shaking, and she just looked so calm. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
She did a lot for us, because we all felt so calm, because she was calm. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
It's been remarkable to hear those memories, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
and hear about your experience with Margot Fonteyn. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
From White Lodge, the Ballet School, and all the Antiques Roadshow team, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
bye-bye. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:01 |