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Welcome back to the Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
from Newport in Wales. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
I'm travelling across the River Usk on this grand aerial ferry, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
one of only six surviving transporter bridges in the world. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
This is travelling in style. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
It takes 90 seconds to get across | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
and it was built for Edwardian workers who lived | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
on the west side of the river, but who needed to get to the east, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
where the factories and the docks were. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Otherwise, it was a four-mile round trip. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
It was opened on September 12th 1906 by Godfrey Morgan, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
the Second Lord Tredegar, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
resplendent with soup-strainer moustache | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
on what looks like a very miserable day. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
The surrounding dockland and beyond was owned by Godfrey, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
who lived just a mile up the road | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
at his fabulous pile, Tredegar House. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
In a discreet corner is a memorial to his remarkable horse, Sir Briggs. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
Godfrey took Sir Briggs with him to the Crimean War, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
and in October 1854, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
they led the line of the calamitous Charge of the Light Brigade, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
when British troops mistakenly assaulted | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
heavily defended Russian positions. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Despite heavy losses, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:12 | |
miraculously, they both survived with barely a scratch. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
In fact, Sir Briggs went on to survive many major battles. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
The First World War fictional story of War Horse is rightly popular, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
but to my mind, if you want the original war horse, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
surely it has to be Sir Briggs. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Godfrey buried his beloved horse with full military honours | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
in the cedar garden at Tredegar House, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
where we find our specialists ready to welcome visitors from Wales | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
to this week's Antiques Roadshow. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
A beautiful day, a beautiful garden, a beautiful house, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
one beautiful girl, two rings. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
Come on, tell me all about them. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
OK. This one was my grandmother's | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
and this was my great-grandmother's. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
All I know is that this one was purchased in Plymouth | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
and was a replacement engagement ring when they had more money, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
and that's all I know about them. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
Well, when you began to tell me that | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
I felt that that must be true, because this particular ring | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
-is rather older than this one. -Yeah. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
-OK. -Which turns the family provenance round in a rather complicated way. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
This is a very pretty little gold ring set with rubies and diamonds. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
-Yes. -And it comes from probably | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
the last few years of the reign of Queen Victoria. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
Conveniently, she lived until 1901, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
-so it takes us even into the 20th century. -Right, OK. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
And they're beautiful, aren't they? | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
-Yes, lovely. -They're blood-red rubies and diamonds, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-but this is a very fulsome diamond ring, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
I mean, it's quite, quite a sight, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
and look what it does in the sunshine. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
And have you ever thought about the setting at all? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
It's rather strange, rather dark, isn't it? | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
No, I haven't, I haven't had anybody look at it before, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-so I don't know much about it. -Except you love it. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
I do absolutely adore it, yeah. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
-I'm just too scared to wear it. -Oh, no, don't be that. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
It's set in silver and backed in gold. This one is only gold | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
and it's one of the signposts to me that this is an earlier ring, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
because we can tell from the lapidary work and from the setting | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
that it probably comes from the 1840s, something like that. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
-Oh, right. -So 60 or 70 years before this one. -Right, OK. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
But anyway, let's start with this one, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
it's a perfectly nice engagement ring. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
It's been through one lifetime and a little bit rubbed, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
probably only valued at £300-400 | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
but if you wanted to walk into a West End shop in London, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
where this sort of thing would be for sale, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
it would be a rare thing to be found for sale, a very attractive one, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
and I think you'd have to fork out £7,000 to get it. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Oh, really? Wow. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
Wow! That's lovely news. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Won't be selling it, but, yeah, it's a gorgeous ring. Thank you. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-Can we see it on your finger? -Yeah. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
-Yes, look at that, stunning, wonderful. -Thank you. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
A jug which doesn't really need any introduction. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
Having said that, would you like | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
to tell me who made it? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:08 | |
Clarice Cliff. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
Clarice Cliff, and as far as Clarice Cliff goes, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
I have to tell you that in days gone by, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
I've been a guest speaker | 0:05:16 | 0:05:17 | |
-at the Clarice Cliff Collectors Club Convention. -Right. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
So I have actually met the ladies who decorated this in the 1930s. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:27 | |
-Oh, right. -So, the design - | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
the design is oranges and lemons, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
and if I had to say what is my favourite design, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
-I think this is it. -Right. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
First of all, it's called the "Conical" shape. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
OK, I didn't know that. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Well, I can tell you that, but I want you to tell me a little bit | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
about how a jug like this ends up in this idyllic part of South Wales. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
Well, the jug, my earliest memories, really, as a child, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
I would be taken down to Llanelli on a Sunday afternoon | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
to visit some elderly relatives and there'd be nothing to do. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
Tea would be laid on the table and then after we'd eaten, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
it was a matter for my sister and I just to sort of walk around | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
and sort of look at various objects in the house | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
and this was one of them, and then of course, as time went on, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
the elderly relatives passed away and this came my way. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
Let's have a quick look at the mark under the base, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
because marks are quite important | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
and you've got a mark there that says, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
"Bizarre by Clarice Cliff" | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
and then it's a little bit misleading for you local people | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
-because it says "Newport Pottery" under there, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
And the number of people who think | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
that Newport Pottery is actually here in South Wales | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
-but it wasn't, it was up there in Stoke-on-Trent. -OK. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
-This design was introduced in around about 1931. -Right. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
So, you know, you're into the Art Deco | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
but moving into the Moderne, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
and as far as collectors are concerned, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
if I dare use the phrase, it ticks all the right boxes, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
so when it comes to the value, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Clarice Cliff's a little bit like stocks and shares, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
-the market is always up and down. -Yes, yes. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
So I would say that your jug is possibly round about 800, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
but maybe on a good day, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
possibly, possibly, £1,000. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
-We just might... -Really? -..just might get up there. -Gosh! | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
Really? I didn't expect that at all, actually. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
Poisonous snakes aren't everybody's cup of tea. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
But how do you feel about having a festival of snakes | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
on your dining table, or do you not keep it on your dining table? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
We don't keep it on the dining table, no. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
We keep it under the stairs, actually, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
but now that I've seen it out again | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
and it's a while since I've seen it out, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
it's actually quite attractive | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
in a...scary sort of way. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
I think it's put away because | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
I can't really decide what to do with it. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
Presumably if it's put away, you didn't buy it for use. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
No, no, no, it was my grandfather's. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
It's been handed down to me from my grandfather, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
who was in the army in the North West Frontier in the 1890s. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
-Right. -So we think that's where he got it, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
that sort of area which is now sort of northwest Pakistan, isn't it? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
I can tell you exactly where it comes from. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
-Right. -It's covered in local symbols. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
-Right. -It comes from Kashmir. -Right. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
And you've got Kashmiri, or local leaves, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
you've got chinar leaves and coriander leaves, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
and all this local flora - and fauna. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
-And fauna. -Um, poking its head out, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
and rearing up in a very sort of aggressive-looking way. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
Um, the bowl itself is based on what's called a kashkul, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
which is a begging bowl, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
which the Dervish monks used to carry | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
to collect alms from the locals, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
as in "whirling dervish", | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
these men sometimes used to spin round and round in their... | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-Big begging bowl? -A begging bowl. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
It's a popular shape that was used by the local craftsmen | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
to turn into all sorts of things - | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
for example, your lovely centrepiece. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
-Yes. -Which is not ever intended to be sold to a Kashmiri, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
-this was always expected to be sold to a foreigner. -Right. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
It's a wonderful item, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
it's much bigger than usually Kashmiri silver is. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
It's on a very grand scale, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
and as far as date of manufacture goes, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
this is going to be about 1890. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
And the market for what's essentially Islamic metalwork | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
has grown and grown over recent years. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
This is not only skilful work, but a really nice-looking object. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
-It has, you know, some considerable value too. -Ooh, right. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
Um, it could cost you about... | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
somewhere around £4,000 mark. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
Oh, right. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
That's more than I was thinking. Yeah. Thank you very much. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-Brilliant! -Not at all, nice thing to be left. -What a result. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
You want to get it out of the understairs cupboard, though. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
I think it will, yes, it might just. And some bananas to put in it. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-You're obviously twins, Derek and... -Elwyn. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
Elwyn, Derek and Elwyn, let's get it the right way round. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
It's a family dresser. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
What's its history, what can you tell me about it? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
It belonged to our grandfather, who used to live in West Wales. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
And he got married sometime in World War I period | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
and we assume he acquired it at that time. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
But we don't know much about it apart from that. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
OK, well, it's a very typical West Wales dresser. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
I have an admission to make - | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
I have one almost identical, that was my grandmother's dresser | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
and I'm the current custodian of it | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
and it's lived with me in about six or seven different houses now, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
but I still have it. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
This one probably dates from about 1880, it's oak, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
and this one is perhaps slightly better than average | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-because you've got this egg-and-dart cornicing across the top. -Yes. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
And this feature that we see in the centre here, which is | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
commonly called the dog kennel, this is something that you see | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
very typically on dressers from the South and West Wales region. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
The handles are replacements on it, these are not original, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-these were probably put on in about 1900, 1910 or so. -Yeah. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
So which one of you is the current custodian of it? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
-Derek. -Derek, and does it have pride of place in your "cegin", Derek? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
I'm afraid it lives in the garage at the moment. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Does it? Oh, dear. OK. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
Did you inherit it after he passed away? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
Er, yeah, it went to an aunt first of all and then it came on to us. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
This is a photograph of our grandfather and grandmother | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
and the two children at the front | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
-is Elwyn and me. -Us, of course, yes. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:27 | |
-Of course, yes. -We're actually... | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Obviously, you were identical as children, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
-slightly easier to tell you apart these days. -Yes, identical twins. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
And which one of these is the grandfather that owned the dresser? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
The man in the doorway. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
The man in the doorway there, gosh, and was he a miner? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
Yes, he was, that's his very own mining lamp there. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
-Is it really? -He used to work in quarrying and mining. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
He lived a fairly primitive life because there were no running water, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
no gas, no electricity, so it was candles, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
cooking on an open fire | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
and water from the well in the field next door. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
Towards the end of his life in Rose Hill, the name of the house, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
he had water installed | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
but he didn't want it in the house, he just had a tap in the garden. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
-Really? -And nothing else changed at all. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
He really was happy to live in the past. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
Well, you know, it's obviously very important to you, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
it's part of your family history. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
They've slightly sort of fallen out of fashion in more recent years. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
-Yes. -If you had to buy this at auction, you'd probably be looking | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
at around £400-500 mark in the current market. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
-Right, OK. -OK, fine. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
It's a rather interesting object. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
It's cloisonne, so enamel in these wonderful sort of wirework designs, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
making this lovely scrolling design and these stylised plant forms, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
and what it actually is, it's a matchbox or a vesta case. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
-So your matchbox would slide in just under here. -Right. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
So your matchbox slides in there, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
what they've done rather cleverly, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
so you can still take your matches out and then | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
get to the strike on either side. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Dates probably from 1920s-1930s | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
and value, not all that much | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
but maybe £15 or £20, something like that. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
-It's a lot of work for £15, £20. -It is indeed. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
I wouldn't want to do that! THEY LAUGH | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
I think I'm in a Wallace and Gromit stage set! | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Now pay attention and look interested. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
It's Davies, he was the great genius of the Worcester factory | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
and painting, and I suppose the vase is going to be now | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
worth between £4,000 and £5,000. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I'd better take care of it. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Yes, oh, for heaven's sake, otherwise I'll come and haunt you! | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
You've got some great tattoos. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
What's your connection | 0:14:03 | 0:14:04 | |
with the tattooing business? | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
My grandfather started tattooing | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
in 1928, and obviously my family's been tattooing ever since, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
-my father and my uncle and my aunt. -Right. -And myself. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
I collect a lot of tattoo memorabilia, you know, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
I have a museum and I do a travelling museum round conventions. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
Right, OK. Well, I can see that this item we've got in front of us | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
is actually what's called an Edison mimeograph, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
or an Edison electric pen. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
We all know Thomas Edison was a famous inventor, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
had many things under his belt - the phonograph, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
the first commercially-produced incandescent light bulb, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
and this, the stencilling pen, which he patented in 1876. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
Basically, this pen was powered by an electric motor which had | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
a reciprocating needle which shot in and out as the motor span round. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
This thing moved on from being this reprographic object | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
into something that became the mainstay of tattoo artists. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Needle pens for tattooing, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
which you've obviously used as a tattooist, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
that's exactly what they do - | 0:15:00 | 0:15:01 | |
they have that reciprocating needle in, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
that injects the ink under your skin | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
and I think, if my memory serves me correctly, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
there are just under 40 around in the world today. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
I think some of them...there are several in the Henry Ford Museum. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-That's correct. -Now, we've got two versions here. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
I can see we've got this brass version. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
As far as we know, that's British. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
It was found behind the back seat of a Morris Minor car. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
-It was donated to the museum. -That's interesting. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
But where it came from originally | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
and who made it, we're not really 100% sure. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Well, I have to say, I have never seen that brass version. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
It's bigger, it's slightly more cumbersome than this one, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
so that's very interesting. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:38 | |
Now, very few of these ever, ever come up for sale | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
and when they do, they're very keenly contested. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
I think that there's a great possibility that this brass one | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
is worth around about £7,000-10,000. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
And do you know, I reckon this one, the American version, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
is probably worth about £8,000-12,000. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
So what we're essentially looking at here is | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
around about £15,000-20,000 worth. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
Do you remember earlier on, I was on the Newport Transporter Bridge, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
which was opened by Godfrey Morgan, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
who of course lived here in Tredegar House? | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
It was opened by him in 1906, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
and the local museum has brought this along. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
This was presented to Godfrey Morgan | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
on the opening of the bridge, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
and you can see here | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
it mentions the bridge | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
and the fact that it was presented to Godfrey Charles Viscount Tredegar | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
and this little piece at the top here is a replica of the mechanism | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
used to move the gondola backwards and forwards. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
And what it actually is... | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
is a cigar cutter, and you put the cigar in here, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
move the mechanism... | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
Hey presto, cuts the cigar. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
As cigar cutters go, it's not exactly portable, you can hardly | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
slip it into your breast pocket, | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
but I was showing this to Paul Atterbury earlier, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
who valued it in the high hundreds of pounds, and he said | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
this was something he'd give his eye teeth to have, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
because he loves anything architectural, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
engineering, mechanisms, that kind of thing. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
And of course this commemorates | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
the day the Newport Transporter Bridge was opened. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
But I like to think of the Viscount in his home here in Tredegar | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
with this maybe on the mantelpiece - a little conversation piece. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Well, this is about as far removed | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
from Chippendale as a chair can be. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
Exactly, yes. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
Who did it belong to? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:36 | |
It was my grandfather's, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
or that's the earliest we can actually go back to, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
-which is about 1935. -OK. -It was known in the family. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
Yes. Do you remember it as a child? | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
Indeed, yes. I moved to Swansea when I was four years old | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
and it was in the house with my grandfather then. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
And did he use it? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
My grandfather always sat at the head of the table | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
and the grandchildren sat on the windowsill eating table. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
Yes. So you have this wonderful picture of your grandfather | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
sitting in this chair. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:05 | |
Indeed, yes, he was a much, much bigger man than myself. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
He was a master butcher. He smoked a large pipe. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
-I can almost sort of visualise him sitting in it. -Indeed, yes, yes. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
So, 1935 is when you can take it back to, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
but actually, it's a bit earlier than that. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
-Oh, right. -It dates from some time between around 1760-1790. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:28 | |
Good gracious! | 0:18:28 | 0:18:29 | |
And chairs like this were made out of native timber. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
This one - do you know the woods this is made of? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
No, I would assume that the arms are ash, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
but that's as far as I would care to go. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
-Spot on. -Oh! -That's absolutely right. -Oh, right. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
And there's another wood in here too. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
This seat has been sort of... | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
-It's like a slice carved out of a tree, isn't it? -Yes, yes. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
And this wood is elm. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
But that's not the best bit about this chair. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
This is the original paintwork that was on the chair, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
and how, from the second half of the eighteenth century, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
it's got to now without being stripped down | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
is a sort of a bit of a miracle, really. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
This sort of red colour, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
and then there are traces of another colour behind. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
And I don't doubt that that was the original colour it was painted. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
-Right. -Of course, houses pre-electricity, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
-things were quite dull. -Exactly, yes. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
And this was a very humble, sort of, farm-made chair. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:33 | |
There's one thing I wondered - | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
there's no spindle from these two parts here. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Obviously they've been filled, so... | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
So they filled this hole, but it's the same plug, isn't it, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
-that's filled it? -Exactly, but there's no receiver at the bottom. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
The great thing about chairs like this | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
is that they simply don't conform | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
to the patterns of city-made chairs. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
I think whoever made this | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
just miscounted the number of spindles they had, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
and that is part of its charm. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
That is the beauty of a chair like this. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
-So these chairs stand up quite well in the current market. -Right. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:14 | |
A chair like this now would fetch | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
around £1,800. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
I would have said 200. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
I'm amazed, absolutely amazed. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
What an appropriate jewel to come to the table | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
when we are surrounded by | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
these fantastic flowers and insects. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
What made you bring this to me? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
I just thought it was a very pretty little brooch | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
that I inherited from my godmother, who was born in the 1880s. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
She was our next-door neighbour when we lived in London, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
and I spent almost more time with her than I did with my parents. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
She always wore this little brooch | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
after she got dressed to go into town in the afternoon | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
and it's just part of my childhood, really. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
And I was very, very pleased when she left it to me. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
How did she wear it? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
She had dresses with cross-over fronts, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
she always wore the same style, and a belt, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
a little lace jabot underneath the cross-over, for modesty, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
and the brooch always kept the two sides of the V neck together. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
-So it would be high up she'd be wearing it. -Yes, quite high up. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
-Quite high up. -Yes, yes. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Do you know, for me to see something that I've never seen before | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
is not easy, actually, as I do see quite a lot of jewellery, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
but I have never seen anything like this before, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
and that's what made me want to feel it and touch it - | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
-it sort of sprang out at me. -Beautiful, isn't it? | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
It is absolutely gorgeous, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
and do you know, jewellery is not all about big diamonds and big show. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
Sometimes there's a huge message in something that's very small. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
And here is the perfect message, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
because we have this wonderful bumblebee in the middle | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
and it's in a heart shape | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
and it's on a brooch, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
so it is saying, "Be sure of my love." | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
Because the surety is the pin, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
the pin will keep the surety there, it will keep it there, the brooch, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
and that's what it's saying, so a very simple, beautiful message. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
And it is in enamel, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
cushion shaped diamonds, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
little ruby eyes for passion. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
And of course, the bumblebee also represents plenty as well, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
so plenty of passion and love, for always, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
-because diamonds were for always. -Oh, how lovely. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
Who was her lover, do you think? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
-Well, she was married. -Yes. -She married in 1915, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
-and he was my godfather as well, so I would imagine it was him. -Aw. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
Unless she inherited it from her mother, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
-but I wouldn't know about that. -Well, this is made in about 1900 - | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
-1895, -1900. Right, it would be her husband, then. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
-So he bought it for her. -Yes. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Because of his love and adoration for her. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
The brooch itself is made of silver and gold | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
and the diamonds are set in silver, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and then on the back is the gold, which will strengthen the silver. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
And of course, it's in the Garrard's box here - | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
which was the Crown Jewellers at the time. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
So at auction - it has a little bit of enamel damage, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
but I think it is just so beautiful. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
I would think in the right auction, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
you'd be looking at around about £1,500. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
SHE GASPS Gosh! | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
Oh, my goodness, that means a lot to me. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
And it would be to her as well, if she knew. That's lovely. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
-Lovely period '60s tiles, yeah. -'60s, yes. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
How did you get them? | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
My father worked in the ceramic industry, and these were samples | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
that he would have had to have taken round to prospective clients. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
-I'd like to suggest that we might film these. -OK. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
I think they're very interesting. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
-I think they're very much of the time. -Well, also, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
they're very much of this time, now - they're very commercial | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
and these are the things that people are looking for. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Well, with images like these, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
we don't quite have the backdrop today. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
I would imagine that we should be looking at Count Dracula's castle | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
with thunder and lightning and crows | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
and mist coming across the lawn. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
And here we are, bathed in beautiful sunshine. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
So what can you tell me about these? How did you come by them? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
I can't tell you a great deal. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
I picked them up in a boot sale about three years ago. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
-And what drew you to them? -I'd never seen anything like them before. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
-Uh-huh. -And they looked really old, so... -They are indeed really old. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
They're what is known as penny dreadfuls | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
and they were, as we can see, a broadsheet, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
a printed broadsheet that was sold to advertise, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
as we can see here, upcoming executions | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
for murders and various crimes. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
These are quite sensational headlines here - | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
we can see the "Trial, sentence and execution | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
"for the murder of James Delarue at Hampstead." | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
And if we come down to the bottom here, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
we can actually see that this one is dated 1845. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
These were sold for a penny, as the name suggests, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
primarily in the county in, you know, hundreds of thousands, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
and it was hugely, hugely popular during the nineteenth century | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
to come and watch these executions take place. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
And we can see here in the image of this sort of wood block print, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
it's portrayed as a nice family outing | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
and somewhere to go for the day. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
You almost imagine them taking their picnic with them | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
and watching this rather gruesome event go on. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Charles Dickens himself actually, against his better judgment, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
decided that he was going to go | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
and watch one of these executions take place | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
and he reported to the Times that it made his blood run cold. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
They drew such tremendous crowds, up to 20,000, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
and even in some cases up to 100,000 people, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
and these were nicknamed "execurtioners" | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
travelling to watch these executions take place. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
And I think if you pick up the corner, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
it has almost the feel, I suppose, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
of a crepe paper or something like that, it's very thin. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
I think that would be why these are so scarce, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
and that they haven't survived in high numbers. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
-And now you're going to tell us what you paid for them. -£20. -£20. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
-You've actually got another one underneath. -Yeah. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
So they cost a fiver each. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
They are very desirable today. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
I mean, a rather gruesome subject, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
but they can be very important. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
So I think each of them is probably worth at auction | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
-something around £300-500 per piece. -Excellent. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
-That's an amazing profit, well done. -Excellent. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
-Thanks very much. -Thank you. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
Whenever I see things associated | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
with the potteries of Staffordshire, I think how sad it is that | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
that total industry has gone into decline. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
How did you get this collection? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
Well, my father used to...well, for all of his life, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
worked in the ceramic industry, in the tile industry, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
selling tiles to customers. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
And he died in 1969, but these were sort of left when he went | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
and they've lain, in fact, till more recently | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
and I've just rediscovered them. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:30 | |
And particularly with these tiles here, I was very impressed | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
with the design of them, which is why we framed them. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Yes, absolutely. So we've got some lovely examples here. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
We've got the very '60s tiles here. We've also got other examples, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
which were obviously in this salesman's sample box here. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
-That's right. -And then we've got various salesman samples | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
of fireplaces and a bath. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
And it's interesting to look at them all, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
because I've just moved from a Victorian house | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
to a much newer house, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
and I think I might have been drawn | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
to the more traditional tiles originally, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
but I think these tiles would look marvellous | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
-in my more modern house. -They're stunning, aren't they? | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
-They really have such visual impact. -Yes, absolutely. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
It's interesting to look at Johnson tiles - | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
-of course, one of the great producers of tiles. -Yes. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
-And these are so '60s. -They are indeed. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Marvellous colours, great shapes. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
-Yes. -You can just imagine the tiled tables | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
-that these often were used on from that period. -Yes, yes. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
But firstly, these prints here, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
-of course, are from much, much earlier. -Yes. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
They're from when Minton's set up an art studio | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
-in London in 1870. -Yes. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
And directed by a WS Coleman, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
-and these have a great Coleman feel about them. -Right. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
And in terms of valuation, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
the prints here I would say | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
-about £200. -Right. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
These samples, which are still very stylish, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
-but are probably sort of £10 each. -Right. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
But this framed example is just so stylish, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
-I think it's got to be £250. -Gosh. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
Well, that's incredible, cos I never realised | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
they'd have that sort of value, so thank you very much. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
This is a very bright and colourful interior scene, isn't it? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
-Oh, it is. -And when you look at it, the first thing I think - | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
this is not by an English artist, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:22 | |
because it's got a continental influence | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
and very much 20th century. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
In fact, almost influenced by the German expressionists. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
On the left-hand side, it's got the signature here, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
-which is difficult to read, but it's Koppel, isn't it? -Yep. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
-And it's Heinz Koppel. -Yeah. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
-I see it's dated August '47. -Mm-hm. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
Now, it's interesting, cos he comes from Germany originally - | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
born in 1919 in Germany, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
and his parents fled the Nazis in 1933 and they went to Prague. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
-Mm-hm. -And of course, as you know, the Germans marched into Prague. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
They fled there, so he came over to England, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
settled in Wales, and he studied art in London. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
And I can see this European tradition | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
in his work coming to Wales. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
Just look at the picture, it's absolutely fantastic. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
-So how did you get it? -My grandparents and parents | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
were friends of the Koppel family. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
I actually played with his daughters as a little girl. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
And my grandfather bought a few of his pictures off him | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
in the early days, and this particular picture | 0:30:27 | 0:30:32 | |
I grew up with on my parents' dining room wall, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
and I always loved it, And when I reached 30, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
and they asked me what I would like for my birthday, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
I said I would like to have that painting. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Well, I think you've got a very good eye. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
So your parents were friendly with the artist? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
Yes, they were. They were one of a large group of people | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
that came over in 1939, my father from Vienna, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
escaping from the Germans, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
and my mother from Prague at the time. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
There was quite a group of them that fled to Wales, actually. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
It's a great image. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
You've got minimalist brush strokes and it's quite flat to look at, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
and a lot of colour in here. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
And you've got a vase on the table with flowers and the chair. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
In fact, you could almost say it's like a later Van Gogh, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
cos you know, he used to do these interiors, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
but in a different style, a more...almost a coarser style. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
And I think if this came up for sale, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
being a Welsh artist, and he is known in Wales, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
-I think that would make possibly £800 to £1,200. -Mm-hm. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
So a very good choice on your part. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Oh, I couldn't possibly sell it. I love it. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
SHE LAUGHS I will keep that forever. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
In the middle of the nineteenth century, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
the Victorians worked out how to keep fruit after the fruit harvest, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
so it was considered very smart to serve soft fruits, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
you know, on into the autumn. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
And you'd have used this to sprinkle sugar on top of your berry dessert. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
-Dessert. Lovely. -Marks on the back are Scottish - | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
it's made in Edinburgh in 1820. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
It was plain when it started out life, and it's been altered, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
but oddly enough, it's worth more as an altered thing | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
-than it would be if it had stayed plain. -Oh, right. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
If it were plain, it would be worth maybe £50, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
but with all the embellishment and the gilding in the bowl | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
-and it's berry-ness... -Yes. -it's worth closer to 100. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
Gosh, that surprises me. Yeah. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
Pleased with that. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
-Jet or not jet? -Well, I don't think it is jet, actually. -No. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Cos it's got these conchoidal fractures. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
Con...I can't pronounce that, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
but if you say so. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:46 | |
-It looks like a chip to me. -Yes. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
-Very expensive new, not so much today. -Yes. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
-£25. -Aw. -That really is it. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
-Wanted more than that. -Glass is cheap! | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
-This - I'm sorry. -Not worth a penny. No, that's... | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
-It's not. -Thank you, Fiona .. HE LAUGHS | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
You hate me now, don't you? Sorry. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
It's one of those very, very interesting objects, I think, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
that has next to no value at all. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
# I'll tell you once more | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
# Before I get off the floor | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
# Don't bring me down. # | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
To show this car off at its best, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
we've obviously had to move away from the event. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
I'm restoring a classic car myself and I know what a nightmare | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
and an amazing experience it can be. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Now, as you pull up, you can think of Ferrari, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
you can think of Lancia, Aston Martin, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
all those influences, but this is closer to home, isn't it? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
Very much so. It was built in Pontypridd, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
about 26 miles from Newport, by two men who had a dream - | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
Giles Smith, who was a butcher, | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
and Bernard Friese, who was a prisoner of war, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
an ex-prisoner of war from Germany. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
And they met quite by accident on the side of the road | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
and started talking about cars, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
and from that, the dream began to unfold. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
And a year later, they started building their first production car. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
And the name Gilbern is actually a split | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
between the two names, isn't it? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Exactly, it's Giles Smith and Bernard Friese. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
They weren't just going to build a special, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
which was a plastic body on an old Ford Pop or an Austin 7 chassis. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
Being the engineer he was, Bernard Friese says, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
"If we're going to do it, we're going to do it right." | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
-Wow. -And they did it right. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:35 | |
There were actually a lot of problems with this car, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
and the main one, I think, is why this wasn't a huge success, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
was the price, because you could buy this as a kit car, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
and you could also buy it fully made, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
-and fully made, they were sort of £2,500. -That's right. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
And in the early '70s, that was a lot of money. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Yeah, you could buy a Jaguar XJ6 for the same price. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
-You know, it's made by hand. -Mm. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
-What I love is the garden shed workshop... -Oh, yes. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
..image of building a car. I mean, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:02 | |
how many are there left, do you know? | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
There are 212 built. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
Only the DVLA know how many are left, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
but we, in the Gilbern Owners Club, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
-we think there's probably about 100 left. -Right. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
I think they're a fantastic car. I think they're underrated. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
And do you mind me asking what you paid for it? | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
I paid £3,600 for it in October of last year. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
And do you think that was a good buy? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
I thought it was an excellent buy. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
I agree. I think it was an excellent buy. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
I think easily, today, the markets for these are just... | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
Not so much these cars - all classic cars. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:31 | |
-Yeah, you're right. -But something so rare, so pretty... | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
-It needs a bit of work, the bodywork needs a re-spray. -Yes. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
-But the bodywork is actually sound, being fibreglass. -Absolutely. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
-£8,000 to £10,000. -Wow! -Easily. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
Wow, that's good news. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:46 | |
-It's such a beautiful car, and those prices are rising all the time. -Yes. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
But I'd never sell it. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:51 | |
I'm not surprised, I wouldn't either. Thank you. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
You've created a bit of a stir here with your triplets, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
and clearly, feeding them's a bit of a handful, isn't it? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
-Yes, it does have its moments. -My goodness me. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
When people bring objects to the Roadshow, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
often we look on the bottom to see if there's an identifying mark, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
and I couldn't help but notice | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
you've done your job already for us - look. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:12 | |
Each one has got their initial on the bottom of their foot, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
cos you really can't tell them apart! | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
At the moment, that's the only way we can tell them apart. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
-So we've got F for... -Ffion. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
There's M for Madison, and we have P there for Paige. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
-Gosh. Well, you've got your hands full. -I'm outnumbered. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
-Well, it's lovely to meet you all. -Thank you. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
Well, I must say, these make a blooming eyeful, don't they? | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
Thank you. I've always thought so. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
-So what's the story? -Um, they came from my grandmother. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
She bought them, I think, probably about 40, 45 years ago. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
I do remember my mother didn't like them very much. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
I'm sure that if we took a vote here, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
50% of the people say they like them | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
and 50% of them would chuck them out of a high storey window | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
-at a passing skip. -Yeah. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:02 | |
Subjective. What's the story? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
I inherited them when my mother died. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
And what have you done with them? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
Um, three of them are in the bottom of the china cabinet, add weight, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
and then that piece sits on a windowsill, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
cos it catches the light on the landing. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
Oh, give them light. I mean, this is the thing | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
that separates glass from everything else, really, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
is if you put it in shade, it looks like nothing, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
and you put it in the sun and it's suddenly, pow. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
Yeah. The only problem is with that one being as heavy as it is, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
then I've got nowhere really safe to put it | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
except at the bottom of the cabinet. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
Well you're not making the best of it, and it's the best piece. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
So you're hiding your light under a bushel, my girl. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
It was designed by Licio Zanetti. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
And he specialised in these forms - horses and birds. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
And the thing that's truly extraordinary about them | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
is the colour. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:49 | |
Now, that is some colour. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
This is a very unusual, rare set of elemental compounds | 0:37:51 | 0:37:57 | |
that are added to the glass to create these colours | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
and they're called dichroic | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
because if you have them in fluorescent light | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-they appear one colour... -Oh. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
..and if you put them in incandescent light, | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
then they turn another colour. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
And they're quite fun. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:13 | |
They were made in the '60s to the '80s by Zanetti, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
whose father was a glass maker. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:17 | |
-He had the works, and the price is quite good. -Oh. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
I mean, a small one's going to be 100 quid. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:26 | |
The larger one is about 150. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
-Oh, heck. -And the horse - | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
-200, 250. -Oh! | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
So here, there's... | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
-Well, there's £500 on this table. -Oh, crumbs... | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
Thank you, Grandma! | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
I honestly didn't have the faintest idea. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
Well, the sun is going down now, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
but is it going down on the wearing of this sort of jewellery? | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
Tell me what it really means to you. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
Well, a much-loved grandmother, a very generous lady, | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
and it reminds me of the Highland balls | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
that we used to have in little village halls in Aboyne. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
And it was called the Aboyne Ball, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
and all the mothers were sitting around wearing tiaras. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Amazing, amazing. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
And there is a misconception in a funny way | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
-that it implied nobility, and it's quite wrong, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
-It was the occasion that demanded the wearing of them. -Absolutely. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
And it was what we might call white tie, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
-but it was full evening dress, wasn't it? -Oh, yes. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
And then that was the starting gun | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
for the ladies to wear absolutely everything. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
-Everything they could lay their hands on. -Yes. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Well, the advantage of your particular tiara | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
is that it's not fixed as one. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
You can actually take it off the frame... | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
-..and wear it as a necklace. -As a necklace. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
And so it joins at the back here with this piece, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
and it's entirely flexible. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:47 | |
It's hard to believe it when it's on what we call the frame, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
which is like a sort of garden fence to support the diamond work. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
Was it your mother's one? | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
It was my grandmother's, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:57 | |
and there's quite a romantic story about that. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
She was Australian, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
and I didn't know till after she'd died that she was. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
I thought she was Scottish Granny. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
and she came over on a sailing clipper | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
and got a job as a governess | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
to the youngest child of this Scottish family, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
and the eldest child fell in love with her and married her. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
How marvellous. Well, that's pretty good, isn't it? | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
That's wonderful. And with this wonderful husband, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
she got a marvellous tiara to go with it. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
Very flattering, I'm sure, to wear, but this one is rather interesting. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
It's an amethyst heart surrounded by diamonds. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
There's something in the handwriting of this which is rather interesting, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
that tells me that the heart existed on its own | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
in all its simplicity, and then later on, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
-this diamond work was added. -Oh, right. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
When it was sold later. But how did this one come into the family? | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
It was given to my daughter for her 18th birthday. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
I should think that's a pretty marvellous present, isn't it? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
And the amethyst always stands for devotion, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
but in this particular instance, it's devoted love, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
because it's heart-shaped, surrounded by diamonds, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
so forever devoted love, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
and that's rather a good message, isn't it, I think? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
A really good one. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:05 | |
-And the craftsmanship is absolutely superb. -Yeah. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
Most marvellous jewel, I must say. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
And here, tell me about this one. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
Well, I was just given it by my grandmother | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
and we don't know, but we think it may be | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
something to do with Queen Victoria. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
Well, I think there's absolutely no doubt about it, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
because I had a little sneak look earlier and engraved on the back, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
it says, "Dear Goddaughter, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
"Victoria Marguereta Louisa Howard, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
"from her affectionate Godmother, Victoria, March 1846." | 0:41:34 | 0:41:39 | |
And I haven't a shadow of doubt | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
that this is actually a gift from the Queen, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
and there's a little diamond jewel and a blue heart. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
And inside the heart is a single lock of hair, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
which I've every confidence is actually Queen Victoria's hair. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
-Really? -Yes. And I find that extraordinarily moving, I must say. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
So three extraordinary pieces of jewellery - | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
that's the only word for them - singing three very separate songs. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
How to value these jewels? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
I think that this would be cheaply found and cheaply bought | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
at £2,500. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
It's not a great sum of money, frankly, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
because the Queen gave an enormous number of gifts | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
and this isn't an immediate member of her family, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
but nonetheless, what an extraordinary survival. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
And the amethyst heart with the foliage above, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
made in 1900, looking very sleepy and exotic | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
in this light and very enviable, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
I think maybe... | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
£5,000. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
And then the tiara that turns into a necklace, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
about 1900 in date as well, and very speculative, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
but £35,000. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
CROWD GASPS | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
And I think that - if I can add anything up at all - | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
is £42,500 for a marvellous collection of jewellery. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
What an extraordinary item and what an extraordinary value, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
and it rather typifies the grand days of Tredegar House, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
when it would have been full of people | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
with extravagant parties, inside and out. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
And I think today with the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
we've recaptured a bit of a sense of those days. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
Some 5,000 people have come along today | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
and brought Tredegar back to life. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
From the Roadshow team, until next time, bye-bye. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 |