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Today, the Roadshow makes a return visit

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to Kirby Hall in Northamptonshire.

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By the 16th century, when Kirby Hall was built,

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it was regarded as one of the finest,

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most chic houses in all of England.

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Sadly now though, most of it is a ruin.

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That part there has no roof.

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That corner there has been partially restored.

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By the mid-1800s, the family that lived here had packed up and gone,

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and the only person that lived in it was a shepherd and his flock.

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WOODWIND INSTRUMENTAL

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But like the valuables we see brought to the Roadshow,

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you only need to look a little closer

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and a place like this soon starts to breathe, come to life.

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-STRING INSTRUMENTAL

-This is the Long Gallery.

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It was once a beautiful, long corridor filled with paintings

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and wall hangings and the Hatton family,

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who owned Kirby Hall for most of its history,

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would stroll up and down here

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if it was too rainy or cold outside.

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A kind of luxurious exercise track.

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Though I doubt anyone broke into a sweat.

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Some parts of the house have been partially restored by English Heritage,

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meaning it's a little bit easier to imagine what went on here.

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Visitors would be met here by the owner in the Great Hall,

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while musicians played up in the minstrels gallery.

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And with its high walls and ornate ceiling,

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it was room designed to impress.

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And give guests a crick in their necks.

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King James I of England was so impressed,

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he stayed at Kirby Hall four times, no less.

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He would greet his visitors here in the Great Withdrawing Room

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under a starry white canopy,

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surrounded by gold and silver cushions.

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You have to imagine it.

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And special guests like the King

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were invited to take a tour of the gardens,

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which were a big status symbol.

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They would slowly perambulate,

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discussing important matters of state, fashion, court gossip,

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and stop occasionally and admire the statues and the exotic plants,

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which were gathered from across the globe.

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Today the garden is open to our own special guests,

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who are here to admire and discuss antiques,

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as Kirby Hall plays host to the Antiques Roadshow.

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And if you want to get involved with the discussions,

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why not play along with our valuation game?

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Press the red button on your remote and test your antiques knowledge.

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Standing with her hand on her hip like this, I get the impression

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that this woman is trying to look distinctly saucy, don't you?

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Yes, definitely.

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Yes, she came from, as far as we know,

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from Yates's Wine Lodge in Leicester, from the owner.

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-Which is like, what, a vintners, or a wine bar?

-Yes, it is.

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Yes, it was a wine bar,

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but it was very well known in Leicester in those days,

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in the 1950s and it was given to my grandfather

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as part of a payment for a debt that the owner owed my grandfather

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and then in the 1980s when he died, he passed it on to my father.

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So, the question is was the debt worth it?

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It's signed at the bottom right, Adolphe Piot.

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Piot was a reasonably prominent late 19th century French artist,

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more in the academic tradition than the impressionist counterparts

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who were working in the late 19th century.

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But the question is, is it an original?

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Because he is much copied and I would hate to think that it isn't.

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I mean, have you speculated on the quality of the picture?

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No, not really. I'm not really very well up in art.

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No, I just know what I was told about it

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and it was just passed to me when my father died.

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Well, she's in sort of traditional Italian garb,

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-isn't she, really, I suppose?

-Yes.

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I mean, she doesn't really look particularly French.

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She looks deliberately exotic. I love those earrings.

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And when one is trying to determine whether a picture is an original

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or a copy, very often the thing to do

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is look deep into the paint surface.

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Try and find out if the glazes, the layers of paint have been worked up.

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I've been looking at that hand there

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-and I have to say, it's quite encouraging.

-Right.

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I mean, as an artist he's not the greatest of painters

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but he does have a way with flesh.

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I can imagine this is just the sort of woman that would have been

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-toasted in the wine bar.

-Yes.

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I mean, she does have that look.

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She looks as though she would, you know, encourage a bit of bottoms up.

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-Yes.

-I also rather like the way that her eyes are done.

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I mean, they're done with a sort of touch of a brush,

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rather than overly emphatic.

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And when one is trying to work out what is a copy from an original,

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very often with copies you get a hardness, a simplicity.

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Something that just doesn't quite work.

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So I'm sort of moving away from thinking that this is a later copy.

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The question is, is it by him?

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If it's not by him it's worth, I don't know, £1,000,

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because it's a very nice looking image.

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If it is by him it's worth probably £6,000 to £8,000.

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And now, with the benefit of the sunlight on it -

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I can't tell you how useful a bit of glare from the sun is -

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I'm coming down clearly on one side.

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This is an original.

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-Oh, great.

-And therefore I don't know quite how much the debt was for

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but I hope £6,000 to £8,000 covers it.

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I hope so too! Yes. Thank you.

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-Well, what have we got here? You tell me.

-Well, it's a Chinese bowl.

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-I was given it by my uncle as a wedding present in 1979.

-Oh, right!

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He, I think, inherited it from his grandmother

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-who used it as a dog bowl for the Dandie Dinmont.

-Wonderful!

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-Which is why it's been known in the family as Dandie's bowl.

-Lovely!

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There is a family story that a diplomat in the family

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looted it from the Summer Palace in Beijing

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but I have no idea if that's right or not.

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Let's just see how correct you are.

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Yes, it's Chinese.

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Yes, it's a bowl.

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The age, of course, one can't actually determine

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by how many generations it goes back.

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That's a common mistake.

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But it is old.

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It was made during the reign of the Emperor Kangxi,

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who reigned from 1662-1722.

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-Gosh!

-So this is a late 17th century dog bowl.

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THEY LAUGH

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This has been entirely decorated by hand

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in a palette we call fan hiver, named by a Frenchman

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back in the 19th century and we've stuck to it.

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It shows, most importantly, two redheaded Manchurian cranes.

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Now, those cranes disappear in autumn. They fly away.

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And in spring, back they come.

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They mate for life so in Chinese it's symbolic of spring

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and of marital fidelity.

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So it's an appropriate wedding present.

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It is. You've also got pine, which is symbolic of long life.

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-Oh!

-So that's quite good too. And finally, the sun indicated...

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or the moon, with a single line around it.

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-I think it's a lovely thing.

-I do too.

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Despite the flaking, I think it would sell for probably £2,500 to £3,500.

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-That's quite a lot for a dog bowl.

-It is! Thank you!

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-It's really quite large, this table, isn't it?

-It is.

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It's very big. Very long.

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I'm interested to know where it's come from and basically who made it.

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Do you have any family history at all?

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My uncle bought it in a house sale in Allington

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and we believe he paid less than £10 for it.

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-OK. So it wasn't last week.

-No. A good 50 years ago.

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Right. OK. So, where does it come from?

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Well, I can't tell you the house it's come from.

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-I can tell you the country it comes from.

-Right.

-It's English.

-Super.

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-But in the French style.

-Right.

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So, the whole of this decoration here,

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this leg here is actually an Italian form leg

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but what became a cabriole leg was used in the French style

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and all of this very effuse carving here on the frieze

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-is typical of the rococo period of about the mid 18th century.

-Right.

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-But is it 18th century?

-You tell me.

-No.

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-It's 19th-century and it's Victorian.

-Right.

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-1860 or 1870.

-Yeah.

-I don't know where this has come from.

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A big house like Kirby Hall possibly.

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When the extra wings were added on to the Victorian families,

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we'll probably never find out where it was made for.

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What I think is interesting is this carving, as I called it,

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it's not the right word because if you look at it carefully,

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can you see it's got splits all the way along on this foliage?

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-That's because it's not carved wood.

-Yeah, plaster.

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Plaster, it's composition, which obviously will affect the value.

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-Yeah.

-There's another thing here, which I've noticed,

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which may or may not affect the value. What have you been doing?

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Well, that was my uncle.

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He wanted to fit it around a skirting board, so he got his saw out.

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Well, he's done it quite neatly, hasn't he?

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Yes, he's a good carpenter.

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But you can see the raw pine of the frame where he's cut it,

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but what's interesting is, if you look at the top of the legs,

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you can see these two holes on either side

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and that is exactly what I was expecting to see

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cos I'm sure there is a huge, great mirror,

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again composition plaster mirror,

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great big one, probably six-foot high.

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There is one in the hallway, actually.

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Oh. From this, do you think?

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Probably not from this, but, yeah, there's two six-foot high mirrors.

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Well, it's the sort of thing... It may well come from this.

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I bet there was a pair of tables in a big ballroom, a big house.

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And strange enough, there were some big houses of this Louis XIV style

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on Clapham Common that had this type of furniture

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in the 1850s and '60s. And you are using it today,

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it's in the house, is it?

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-Yes, it's just... It has pictures all over it.

-In the hall or something?

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-Yeah, it's in our living room.

-The living room.

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Yeah, well, it's perfect.

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It's a perfect thing with this lovely white Carrara marble,

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really very good quality marble.

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-This was quite an expensive thing at the time.

-Right.

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-So, well, it's big, isn't it?

-It's... Yeah.

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And big isn't necessarily beautiful, but what's good about it

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is that it's not too deep, that's the important thing.

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It fits well in the room, actually.

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Yeah, that's the good thing, in a big room. So valuation...

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Under... Under £10 50 years ago.

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Auction today...

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-Easily 3,000 - 4,000.

-Oh, really? Really? I'm surprised. Yeah.

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-And pleased, I hope.

-I am. I'm very pleased.

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It's... Yeah, I do like it.

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-It's a bit garish, but I do like it.

-Bling!

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Well, normally, whenever I hear anything buzzing,

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I run a mile and my family are in hysterics,

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but this little bee brooch

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is something I'm not going to run away from.

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How did it come into your family?

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It was my grandmother's

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-and I think probably purchased after the First World War.

-Fantastic.

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And how have you ended up with it?

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Then her jewellery was split between my mother and her sister

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and then I've looked after it because my mother is in a nursing home,

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-so it will end up with my sister, probably.

-Yes.

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But it's just been sat there, not being admired or anything?

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My mother used to wear it a lot and my sister used to wear it.

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Oh, that's lovely to see. In the Victorian...

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-I don't!

-No!

-LAUGHTER

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Maybe you should! It would be great!

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In the Victorian period, bees, particularly, were seen as

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a sign of reflecting the ideas of virtue and working hard.

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The queen bee and all that.

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So it's really fabulous to see such a good example,

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which is all set with these beautiful old cut diamonds

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and dainty little ruby eyes, so really quite fun.

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Now, I'm not sure how much time you've spent looking at it,

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but you've probably noticed that, if you turn it over,

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we can see that there is a brooch pin fitting,

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which is actually detachable.

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You unscrew it here and then take that off

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and you can actually put in a hairpin

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and then wear it in the hair, so great fun.

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So it's actually yellow gold on the bottom and then silver on the top,

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which was typical of the way that Victorian jewellery was made,

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so it's nice to see the two contrasts

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and the silver on the top helps to keep the diamonds nice

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and white because it's the whiteness in diamonds

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that we like to see, so it's beautifully made, really gorgeous.

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But late Victorian?

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Date-wise, round about 1860-1870, so mid-Victorian

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and reflects the love and passion

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that, particularly, Queen Victoria had regarding nature.

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-No markings on it.

-No markings.

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We didn't have to have markings on jewellery in the Victorian period,

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not until the 20th century that we start to see that come in.

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So attributing it to a maker is very difficult,

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but it probably would have been a good-quality maker.

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-In England?

-In England, yes, absolutely. No, great fun.

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Now, value-wise, of course, if it appeared at auction,

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we'd be looking in the region of, probably,

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£6,000 - £8,000.

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-Very good.

-Yeah.

-Thank you very much, that's wonderful.

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My pleasure. Thank you.

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Now, this is a very strange shape, isn't it?

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-It's a bit like a slipper gone wrong from Ali Baba's cave, isn't it?

-Yes.

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What do you know about it?

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I love it. I love it.

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I inherited it from a friend who died a couple of years ago

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-and I do know that it is Russian. It's got a date on it.

-Yes.

-1750.

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Yes.

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And it also, I think, has a coin at the bottom

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and I don't know if it was made into a bowl from a coin,

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but the coin, I think, is Elizabeth, who was the wife of Peter I.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Well, that's absolutely bull's-eye,

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but it's a complete red herring!

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Oh! Right!

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No, it's brilliant research, but it is actually very, very much

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later than that. It's almost certainly made in the 20th century.

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-Oh, good Lord!

-Yes, but that's not a problem because, in fact,

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it rather raises the stakes

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in that this is a piece of Russian silver in the Slavonic taste.

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It's called a kovsh and it's a great word.

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It's a Slavonic wine-tasting vessel,

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but its shape is secondary to the evocation of Russia.

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Really, this is a patriotic object and the sight of it would

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bring on sort of the evocation of old Russia,

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terribly important to the imperial family

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before the Russian Revolution,

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when they became particularly self-conscious about their role

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as successors to the Romanovs, so a very exciting object indeed for me.

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-Oh!

-Yes, and in order to evoke this past even more clearly,

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there is a coin from Empress Elizabeth in the base.

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And so it's a bit of a sort of confection, if you like, but also,

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it's in a technique which is very rare in this sort of enamel work.

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More often than not, this is cloisonne enamel.

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-Cloisonne means a bee's cell and the enamel is held in it.

-Yes.

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And it is blind, usually,

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but in the case of yours, against the brilliant sunshine,

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we can see the colours coming through,

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the blue and the green, and we actually this plique-a-jour enamel

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and it's a corruption of applique a jour, applied to the day,

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and it's a very rare and very hazardous technique of enamelling.

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-Hazardous? Why?

-Well, because it's hard to achieve.

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The silver has to be pierced and then it has to be backed with,

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perhaps, copper and then the enamel fired into it

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and then the lining removed, leaving the enamel like stained glass.

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And we can add even a little bit more knowledge

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-because it is actually signed with a hallmark.

-Yes.

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Which not only tells me this is 20th century,

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but it also tells me that it was made by

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a cooperative silversmithing group called the 11th Artel

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and the 11th Artel were...

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-It's all very mysterious, isn't it?

-Yes! It is!

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-And I'm not making it all up, either.

-It's fascinating!

-And...

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Fascinating!

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And the 11th Artel supplied the great houses

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who were retailing silver of this type,

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that included firms like Ovchinnikov and Khlebnikov

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and, in competition to, of course,

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the greatest goldsmith of the time, Faberge.

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But Faberge wasn't terribly keen on these old Russian-style things.

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He preferred to get his sources from elsewhere

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and it couldn't really be more...

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more desirable and I think this is a very rare expression

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of this genre of enamelling from Russia and...

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and I think, without a shadow of doubt, that it would fetch

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-£2,500 - £3,000 under the hammer.

-Heavens! Oh, wonderful!

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Thank you very much! Excellent!

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But you're never going to part with it because it's...

0:17:450:17:48

-No, no, I love it.

-Exactly.

0:17:480:17:49

I love it and it is souvenir of this friend, so I will keep it.

0:17:490:17:54

I hadn't expected, when I turned up at the Roadshow today,

0:17:540:17:57

that I would see a massive political statement in the form of a chair.

0:17:570:18:01

Now, you carved this chair,

0:18:010:18:03

which is all about the MP's expenses scandal back in 2009. Why?

0:18:030:18:08

I chose it to commemorate my 30 years in business,

0:18:080:18:12

but I just thought it was a good story

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and I wanted to spend the time and make something

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that showed something of our political system, really.

0:18:180:18:23

It's quite something! I was so interested to see this

0:18:230:18:25

because obviously we did so much about this on the news

0:18:250:18:27

and I had long conversations

0:18:270:18:29

with the editor of the Daily Telegraph about it.

0:18:290:18:31

The Telegraph, you've got the newspaper there,

0:18:310:18:34

broke this story in May 2009.

0:18:340:18:36

I noticed you've put one of the more arcane things,

0:18:360:18:39

which was the duck house that an MP

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certainly put down as an expense, it was deemed as not allowable.

0:18:420:18:45

Of course, you might think!

0:18:450:18:47

But the duck house was the one

0:18:470:18:49

-that really sticks in people's minds.

-Yes.

0:18:490:18:51

How fantastic!

0:18:510:18:52

-You must get a very strong reaction whenever people look at it?

-I do.

0:18:520:18:55

People are a bit amazed because you can't buy this in the High Street.

0:18:550:18:59

I think Paul Atterbury is probably the man he needs to look at it,

0:18:590:19:02

our expert Paul Atterbury. I can't wait to see what he says about it.

0:19:020:19:05

Neither can I!

0:19:050:19:07

I'm looking at a group, spread out here,

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of toys and books from the mid 1920s to about 1930,

0:19:110:19:15

obviously much too old to be yours.

0:19:150:19:18

But they are all of the same date,

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so were they from one generation in the past

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or are they things that you've collected

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particularly with that date in mind?

0:19:260:19:28

Well, all of these toys belonged to one little boy and the...

0:19:280:19:34

the story really started in 1930 and my mother,

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who was 10 at the time, and her sister, who was 15,

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took their little brother, Eric, who was seven, to a wedding

0:19:420:19:47

and when the bride came out of the church,

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there was a sort of surge of people on the pavement

0:19:500:19:53

and the two girls crossed the road to see the bride better

0:19:530:19:59

and they shouted for Eric to cross and, unfortunately,

0:19:590:20:03

he did cross and there was a van and he was killed.

0:20:030:20:07

And, em, my grandmother, who obviously never ever got over that,

0:20:080:20:15

just put all his toys together in a box.

0:20:150:20:19

What a dreadful story!

0:20:190:20:21

Extraordinary! Incredibly moving. Your poor grandmother. Em...

0:20:210:20:27

And... Well, I'm...

0:20:270:20:30

I'm slightly sort of taken aback now because it seems rather...

0:20:300:20:35

sort of crass to start talking about...Eric's objects.

0:20:350:20:43

But...I think we should.

0:20:430:20:47

I mean, I think that Eric lived, he played with the toys,

0:20:470:20:50

he read his books and he had a life

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and obviously he had a very happy life

0:20:530:20:56

if these were the things that he left behind.

0:20:560:20:58

I mean, the thing to talk about really are two German toys.

0:20:590:21:05

The first is this lovely little car in a garage

0:21:050:21:10

and, if I take it out of its little garage,

0:21:100:21:15

we can see...

0:21:150:21:17

on the side here, there is something that looks a bit like

0:21:170:21:21

a dumbbell or a press or something.

0:21:210:21:24

In fact, you can see it even better on the back there

0:21:240:21:27

and it's made by a company called Lehmann

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and Lehmann were a company who produced a lot of these rather...

0:21:300:21:34

When I say "lightweight", they weren't...

0:21:340:21:37

They were actually physically quite light

0:21:370:21:39

and they were also sort of novelty toys

0:21:390:21:41

and they were known for that

0:21:410:21:43

and each of their toys has a number on it,

0:21:430:21:46

which, during the 1990s and 2000s,

0:21:460:21:49

meant that there were lots of people who collected Lehmann by number

0:21:490:21:53

and they'd say, "Oh, I'm missing a 765, I must look out for a 765.

0:21:530:21:58

"Oh, my goodness! Is this a 765? Yes, it is! Well, I must have that."

0:21:580:22:02

So there are a lot of people who collected Lehmann by number,

0:22:020:22:05

there was a lot of information on that company.

0:22:050:22:07

The other toy that I want to talk about is this,

0:22:070:22:11

which, looking at it, it in fact doesn't have a maker's mark on it,

0:22:110:22:16

but I think that it can probably be linked to a company

0:22:160:22:20

called George Levy, another German company

0:22:200:22:24

and what I love about this is this three-up, the family...

0:22:240:22:28

Or four-up if you count the teddy bear!

0:22:280:22:30

You've got the driver, his missus, the child

0:22:300:22:34

and the child holding the bear, it's absolutely wonderful.

0:22:340:22:38

They wouldn't have been cheap toys in the 1920s and 1930,

0:22:380:22:43

they would have been something that you probably saved up for

0:22:430:22:46

and maybe Eric knew that they were expensive

0:22:460:22:49

and played with them very carefully

0:22:490:22:51

because they are in really good condition.

0:22:510:22:54

The Lehmann toy here, a company that was in big manufacturing mode

0:22:540:22:59

in the 1920s, having started in the 1880s,

0:22:590:23:02

that toy, I would put at between

0:23:020:23:06

perhaps £300 and £500.

0:23:060:23:08

And the toy here, for various reasons,

0:23:090:23:11

I think first of all because it's a motorcycle

0:23:110:23:14

and there are lots of boys out there who collect motorcycles

0:23:140:23:17

AND it's by a good maker AND it's in good condition

0:23:170:23:21

AND you've got this teddy bear element as well,

0:23:210:23:23

I'm going to put that at around

0:23:230:23:25

£1,500 - £2,000.

0:23:250:23:29

SHE LAUGHS Gosh!

0:23:290:23:32

Yes.

0:23:320:23:34

I suppose, from my point of view, perhaps the one thing

0:23:340:23:37

that this collection is missing is a photograph of Eric.

0:23:370:23:41

And we do have a photograph of Eric.

0:23:410:23:44

In that case, Eric needs to be reunited with his toys

0:23:440:23:47

and then the collection becomes totally anchored into the family,

0:23:470:23:52

it's not anybody's collection, it's Eric's collection.

0:23:520:23:56

-And he deserves to be remembered.

-Mm-hm. Thank you very much.

0:23:560:24:00

That's really lovely and really good to hear the background to it,

0:24:000:24:04

-so thank you very much indeed.

-Pleasure.

0:24:040:24:06

Now, the minute I saw this enamel miniature,

0:24:080:24:11

-I started hearing music. This happens to me.

-Does it?

0:24:110:24:15

Do you know what I'm hearing?

0:24:150:24:17

I'm hearing Rimsky-Korsakov, I'm hearing Sheherazade,

0:24:170:24:22

I've lived with this music since I was about ten.

0:24:220:24:25

We had an old Dansette record player

0:24:250:24:27

and we had about half a dozen albums that we bought at the local Co-op,

0:24:270:24:31

cut price, and that was one that has always stayed with me.

0:24:310:24:34

And why oh why should that be?

0:24:340:24:37

Because we are looking at a pair of very exotic-looking dancers.

0:24:370:24:42

Just fill me in a little bit.

0:24:420:24:44

It was given to my maternal grandmother by Laura Knight,

0:24:440:24:48

who she knew.

0:24:480:24:50

Why she gave it to her, I don't know,

0:24:500:24:53

just probably as a friendship gift, I suppose.

0:24:530:24:56

And that's all I know.

0:24:560:24:58

It's always been at home and it's known as "the Laura Knight".

0:24:580:25:00

Well, it's interesting because you also brought along

0:25:000:25:03

your grandmother's address book

0:25:030:25:05

and I flicked through and there is a name I came across right away.

0:25:050:25:10

-Mr Harold Knight, husband of Laura.

-Yes.

0:25:100:25:12

I've had a bit of a look through this

0:25:120:25:15

and there are quite a few names of well-known artists,

0:25:150:25:17

so I think it's fair to say your grandmama was quite well connected.

0:25:170:25:22

-Yes.

-So, it's only tiny in scale. I mean, there are my fingers.

0:25:220:25:26

It is not just enamelled on copper,

0:25:260:25:28

but when you get into the subject matter,

0:25:280:25:32

you can see that there is little foil inclusions.

0:25:320:25:36

But, again, it's in the subject. Why am I thinking Scheherazade?

0:25:360:25:40

Because I think I'm looking at two members of the Ballets Russes.

0:25:400:25:44

I've got a character here who could or might be Anna Pavlova,

0:25:440:25:49

or could be maybe even Ida Rubinstein,

0:25:490:25:53

but we've got this very dark character in the back.

0:25:530:25:56

He's been made up to look like... like a Moor.

0:25:560:26:00

I can't help but think that must be Vaslav Nijinsky.

0:26:000:26:04

-We were always told it was Nijinsky and Pavlova.

-Oh, were you?

0:26:040:26:07

-That's what the story was.

-OK, well, I can't be specific.

0:26:070:26:11

-And I know, on the back, that it's actually dated 1915.

-Yes.

0:26:110:26:16

Which is remarkable because the Ballets Russes, at that time,

0:26:160:26:20

were certainly in Paris, performing Scheherazade.

0:26:200:26:25

-Oh, I see!

-So it all...

0:26:250:26:26

-It all fits in very nicely.

-Yes, yes.

-So what do I think?

0:26:260:26:30

I think that if I wanted to go and buy this today,

0:26:300:26:35

I don't think I'd get any change out of around about three...

0:26:350:26:41

-Possibly £3,500.

-Yes.

0:26:420:26:45

Thank you. It's lovely.

0:26:450:26:48

MUSIC: Scheherazade by Rimsky-Korsakov

0:26:500:26:54

I never know whether they should be standing on all fours like that

0:27:130:27:16

or upright, sitting upright. How do you have him?

0:27:160:27:20

Well, usually, he usually sits just standing,

0:27:200:27:23

sort of looking out at the room. Yeah, like that.

0:27:230:27:27

-Whoops.

-Of course, well, the head comes off and there is...

0:27:270:27:32

-Well, that's the drinking cup.

-Yes.

0:27:320:27:34

So you put strong liquor inside the belly

0:27:340:27:36

and then you pour it into the head and drink it back that way.

0:27:360:27:41

I haven't tried to do that, but I may now.

0:27:410:27:44

Well, it's worth trying out, but of course, the problem is

0:27:440:27:48

-that they are very vulnerable and they get broken very easily.

-Yes.

0:27:480:27:51

There's a...

0:27:510:27:53

We often, on the Roadshow, say

0:27:530:27:55

that if a thing looks too good to be true, it probably is,

0:27:550:27:58

but this is just...

0:27:580:27:59

-I can't see anything wrong with it!

-Really?

-So, that's always a worry.

0:27:590:28:03

Yes, so there must be something wrong with it somewhere.

0:28:030:28:07

Because it's, what, 250 years old,

0:28:070:28:10

it was made 1740s, something like that.

0:28:100:28:13

-Really?! Do you think so? As old as that?

-Well, that's what it should be.

0:28:130:28:18

-But tell me, is it?

-Holding it here, I think he's absolutely OK.

-Do you?

0:28:180:28:24

He's made in Staffordshire, it's a material we call salt glaze,

0:28:240:28:28

which is a hard pottery with a durable glaze that does last

0:28:280:28:33

and, if you're careful, then this is what it looks like.

0:28:330:28:37

Yes, I know, I'm interested in ceramics. I know about that.

0:28:370:28:40

A bit of folk pottery, a bit of fun. Just a joke.

0:28:400:28:43

A bear, sitting there, fine, crushed-up clay decorating his fur

0:28:430:28:47

and the chain on the end. There's not a chip on it! It's lovely!

0:28:470:28:51

No, I know.

0:28:510:28:53

So I'm always worried because there are so many fakes of these about.

0:28:530:28:58

-They have been copied for a long time.

-I know.

0:28:580:29:00

But, em...

0:29:000:29:01

Looking at him there,

0:29:010:29:03

he has lasted well, so a good object

0:29:030:29:06

and so, what's he worth as a happy bear from Staffordshire?

0:29:060:29:13

-Shall we say £4,000?

-Oh, no! Really?

0:29:130:29:17

-That's good, isn't it? But...

-Get a taxi home!

0:29:170:29:20

LAUGHTER Oh, my goodness!

0:29:200:29:23

There are many things in life I've wanted to be and never will be

0:29:240:29:27

and one of them is a woodcarver.

0:29:270:29:29

And, of course, I'm reminded about that

0:29:290:29:32

by this wonderful set of chisels in a chest.

0:29:320:29:37

Tools have a particular appeal because, in a sense,

0:29:370:29:40

they carry the history of all those who have used them.

0:29:400:29:43

-Now, are these yours?

-They are indeed.

-So, you've used them?

0:29:430:29:47

I do use them, yes.

0:29:470:29:49

So, when I take one of these out, and this is a rather magic one,

0:29:490:29:53

which has an engraving of a lady on it,

0:29:530:29:56

I can think of all those people who have used it.

0:29:560:29:59

-Do you feel the same?

-Oh, yes, absolutely.

0:29:590:30:01

So you are, in a sense,

0:30:010:30:03

-carrying on a very personal line of dedicated craftsmanship.

-Absolutely.

0:30:030:30:08

-So, you're a wood carver?

-I am indeed, yes.

0:30:080:30:11

This is a very specific statement, this chair. What drove you to do it?

0:30:110:30:16

I wanted to try and elevate woodcarving to...

0:30:160:30:22

to a more modern audience and woodcarving, really, for me,

0:30:220:30:27

hasn't been popular.

0:30:270:30:29

You don't see it in the High Street

0:30:290:30:31

and so I wanted to show what could be done in our age

0:30:310:30:36

and I chose the MP's expenses scandal

0:30:360:30:41

as a good story to illustrate that.

0:30:410:30:43

Now, of course, you are following a very, very long tradition,

0:30:430:30:46

as you are probably aware.

0:30:460:30:49

Artists, craftsmen, commenting on political activities

0:30:490:30:54

-and shenanigans is as old as politics.

-Yes.

0:30:540:30:57

I'm sure the ancient Greeks were doing it,

0:30:570:30:59

but in Britain, you can certainly go back to the 17th century

0:30:590:31:02

to find political cartoons, to find grotesques and caricatures

0:31:020:31:08

and it's a long tradition that goes on and on and on.

0:31:080:31:11

What it tells us is that, by and large, we have been ill served

0:31:110:31:16

by badly behaved politicians for ever, nothing changes.

0:31:160:31:19

-But it's more about human nature. People ARE greedy.

-Yes.

0:31:190:31:23

They have a choice, whether to be right or wrong,

0:31:230:31:26

and so that's also what it shows.

0:31:260:31:29

And those with their noses in the trough tend to be greedier.

0:31:290:31:32

-Absolutely.

-Let's look at the chair.

0:31:320:31:34

-So we've got Cameron, Brown and Clegg...

-Yes.

0:31:340:31:39

-..in rather embarrassing positions...

-Yes.

0:31:390:31:41

-..exposed by the malpractice of their colleagues.

-Yes.

0:31:410:31:45

Let's remember the history of that occasion.

0:31:450:31:47

The Daily Telegraph ran a series of stories

0:31:470:31:50

-thanks to the Freedom Of Information Act.

-Correct, yes.

0:31:500:31:54

This was all information that had been kept very quiet.

0:31:540:31:57

Thanks to that act, it came into the public domain

0:31:570:32:01

and I remember, day after day after day,

0:32:010:32:04

they ran these revelations about misuse of expenses,

0:32:040:32:09

but one of the great features of it was Sir Peter Vigger's duck house,

0:32:090:32:13

which was an ornament for his garden,

0:32:130:32:16

which apparently he may or may not have claimed expenses for.

0:32:160:32:21

-Does this reference to it?

-This is a reference, yes.

0:32:210:32:24

-And does this reference to it?

-It does.

0:32:240:32:26

So you need to know the iconography of the occasion, don't you,

0:32:260:32:29

to pick up the messages? The other thing was about switching houses.

0:32:290:32:33

-Flipping.

-Flipping, that's the phrase.

0:32:330:32:35

And, of course, we can do it. We can turn a little cottage into a castle.

0:32:350:32:40

-Yes.

-And back again...

-And back again.

-..if you need to.

-Yes.

0:32:400:32:44

And you can do it again that side. I think this is a great reference.

0:32:440:32:48

So you're making all those points.

0:32:480:32:50

I am, in a very physical way.

0:32:500:32:52

You can't get away from this chair, unfortunately.

0:32:520:32:55

-No. It lives with you?

-It does.

-It's at home?

-Yes, yes.

0:32:550:32:59

-You sit on it?

-I have done.

0:32:590:33:01

How long did it take?

0:33:010:33:03

There are over 500 hours tied up in this chair,

0:33:030:33:07

-so about three and a half months of my life.

-Right.

0:33:070:33:09

And how did you pick the woods?

0:33:090:33:11

I wanted to use traditional English timbers

0:33:110:33:15

and we've got a mix of normal oak.

0:33:150:33:17

We have a wood called tiger oak, which is this part, or brown oak.

0:33:170:33:23

And then the suits are actually made from 2,000-year-old bog oak,

0:33:230:33:27

found on the Fens,

0:33:270:33:29

so it is this rich black colour all the way through.

0:33:290:33:32

-So it's a very British statement?

-Oh, yes.

0:33:320:33:35

But anyway, I think it's great.

0:33:350:33:37

It's a very important record of a political drama of recent times.

0:33:370:33:43

You're in a good tradition.

0:33:430:33:44

It's an extraordinary thing to make

0:33:440:33:47

and it's also an extraordinary thing for me to think about valuing.

0:33:470:33:50

If this appeared, let us say, conventionally,

0:33:500:33:54

it turned up with no history at auction, as a curiosity,

0:33:540:33:58

it might fetch £2,000, £3,000, £4,000, even £5,000,

0:33:580:34:02

but of course, because of its political resonance,

0:34:020:34:05

in a sense, the sky is the limit.

0:34:050:34:07

If you can find the right political buyer who wants to celebrate,

0:34:070:34:11

if that's the right word, that dreadful moment,

0:34:110:34:14

then 10,000 and upwards.

0:34:140:34:16

-Right.

-There is no price I can put on it for that reason.

0:34:160:34:20

In the right context, with the right buyer,

0:34:200:34:23

it's an extremely valuable object

0:34:230:34:25

and maybe getting worth all those hours you spend on it.

0:34:250:34:29

-LAUGHING: Yes!

-It should be sitting in the Palace of Westminster

0:34:290:34:32

to remind all those people about how they should behave.

0:34:320:34:36

-Yes.

-Well done.

-Thank you.

0:34:360:34:38

You definitely win the prize for smallest pet of the day.

0:34:390:34:44

What is it and why, more importantly?

0:34:440:34:47

Well, it's something I spotted in auction a few years back.

0:34:470:34:52

And I guess I just wanted a low-maintenance pet.

0:34:520:34:56

You certainly got low-maintenance! Have you found out what it is?

0:34:560:35:00

The breed is a black-and-tan terrier, which I believe to be extinct now.

0:35:000:35:05

-Yes.

-I've got the original nameplate and it is dated 1866.

0:35:050:35:10

Dated 1866, this was at the height of the Victorian collecting market

0:35:100:35:14

for this type of miniature animal.

0:35:140:35:16

I know it's a bit ghoulish,

0:35:160:35:18

but in Victorian times things were different and they would use

0:35:180:35:21

stillborn puppies to make these taxidermy specimens.

0:35:210:35:25

-Have you done your research as to its size?

-I've done a bit of...

0:35:250:35:30

a bit of research.

0:35:300:35:31

I've not done too well,

0:35:310:35:32

but there's not a lot of information out there on them,

0:35:320:35:34

but I believe it to be,

0:35:340:35:36

if it is genuine, I believe it to be

0:35:360:35:38

probably the smallest recorded dog, it's about ten centimetres tall.

0:35:380:35:43

But that's the key, you see. The SMALLEST recorded.

0:35:430:35:46

I know the one you are referring to

0:35:460:35:48

and that is about ten centimetres high.

0:35:480:35:50

-If yours is even a TINY bit smaller, then this is quite a find.

-Yes.

0:35:500:35:56

But you do have to be really careful when buying this sort of thing

0:35:560:35:59

because there were fakes made, even in Victorian times,

0:35:590:36:02

so a bit more research, really check it out.

0:36:020:36:05

If it is, and you should do your research,

0:36:050:36:08

2,000 - 3,000, easily.

0:36:080:36:11

Wow. Wow. That's a surprise.

0:36:110:36:13

But even if it isn't the smallest, it still has a value,

0:36:130:36:15

-which would be £1,000 - £1,500 quite comfortably.

-Yeah, that...

0:36:150:36:21

That's great. That's still fine.

0:36:210:36:25

How many suitcases have you brought?! How many suitcases?!

0:36:250:36:28

Is there anything left in your house as we speak?

0:36:280:36:31

Yeah, there are a few things. There is the kitchen sink.

0:36:310:36:33

Well, there's some great things, but I mean,

0:36:330:36:35

there's one thing that stands out and it is that. It's that vase.

0:36:350:36:39

-So, where did that come from?

-That came from a friend.

0:36:390:36:44

His auntie had died and he had all his friends come around

0:36:440:36:50

and, you know, sort of help themselves to what they wanted

0:36:500:36:54

and that was the last thing, but I loved it. I loved it.

0:36:540:36:56

I saw it and I thought, "How beautiful! I really love it!"

0:36:560:37:00

And I also knew about Clarice Cliff

0:37:000:37:03

and I had a look at it

0:37:030:37:04

and I thought, "You know, that is so reminiscent of Clarice Cliff,"

0:37:040:37:09

although I had a look and I didn't see a signature.

0:37:090:37:11

In fact, I have been looking for a signature ever since.

0:37:110:37:14

-Yeah, there's nothing on it.

-It has not got a signature.

0:37:140:37:16

So, would you be really pleased if it was Clarice?

0:37:160:37:18

-I would be overjoyed!

-Really?

0:37:180:37:21

And, you know, I would be able to get one up on my children!

0:37:210:37:24

LAUGHTER

0:37:240:37:26

Well, then, when you go home, you can get one up on your children

0:37:260:37:28

-because there's nothing wrong.

-Oh!

0:37:280:37:30

That is a Clarice Cliff vase.

0:37:300:37:32

SHE SHRIEKS EXCITEDLY

0:37:320:37:35

LAUGHTER

0:37:370:37:40

-Oh, that is...

-Out of all your boxes...

-All my rubbish!

0:37:400:37:44

LAUGHTER

0:37:440:37:47

It was worth it! It was worth it!

0:37:470:37:49

All your dishes, all your plates, all your pots, or your crocks,

0:37:490:37:52

right in the middle you've got a great piece of Clarice.

0:37:520:37:55

-Oh, fantastic!

-There's nothing wrong with it, it's absolutely perfect,

0:37:550:37:58

it just left the factory without a mark on the bottom.

0:37:580:38:00

It dates from about 1936, it's in a pattern called Taormina Pink

0:38:000:38:05

and today that vase is worth around £150 - £200.

0:38:050:38:10

That's better than a smack in the face!

0:38:100:38:12

LAUGHTER

0:38:120:38:15

-And thank you. There you go!

-Oh!

0:38:150:38:17

-Oh, brilliant! It was well worth it.

-Good.

0:38:170:38:21

This is an easy one for me because it is what it says on the box!

0:38:220:38:26

It is famous football teams

0:38:260:38:28

and it's made by the manufacturer William Britain.

0:38:280:38:31

William Britains were known for making lead soldiers

0:38:310:38:34

and they produced them right the way up into the 1950s

0:38:340:38:38

and they must have made millions

0:38:380:38:40

because we see them all over the place.

0:38:400:38:43

Football sets, though, are quite rare.

0:38:430:38:45

So, let's see who is inside.

0:38:450:38:48

Can I ask you just to hold that? Oh!

0:38:480:38:50

So, unusually, you've got two teams here

0:38:500:38:53

because they normally were just sold with one.

0:38:530:38:56

Now, my knowledge of football strips is limited,

0:38:560:38:58

so I'm going to have to ask for your help.

0:38:580:39:01

Can you identify which teams they are?

0:39:010:39:03

I think that could be Aston Villa.

0:39:030:39:04

That's right, and the other team is Blackburn Rovers, I think.

0:39:040:39:08

-Two of the main teams in the 1930s.

-And are you a fan?

0:39:080:39:12

I'm a fan of football, yeah, but I don't support any of those two teams.

0:39:120:39:17

So, how did they come into your possession?

0:39:170:39:19

They are my partner's late father's.

0:39:190:39:21

He was born in 1924,

0:39:210:39:23

so sort of mid '30s he probably would have had them.

0:39:230:39:28

-Was he an Aston Villa or...?

-Yes, he was an Aston Villa supporter.

0:39:280:39:31

He was born quite close to the ground in Aston, in Birmingham.

0:39:310:39:35

Yeah, he was a very avid football fan and sportsman, actually.

0:39:350:39:39

-These were made in 1935-ish, so he would have been about ten?

-Yes.

0:39:390:39:44

An ideal age to be playing with your...football team.

0:39:440:39:48

Well, as I say, rare, but what you've got is two teams here.

0:39:480:39:52

They were only sold, normally, one team per box,

0:39:520:39:55

so he obviously got two boxes and amalgamated them into the team.

0:39:550:39:59

And remarkably, not only does it have the goal posts

0:39:590:40:02

and the corner posts and the referees and the linesmen,

0:40:020:40:06

but the rarest thing, and the thing that always goes missing,

0:40:060:40:09

-is the football!

-Yeah.

-And you've got two!

0:40:090:40:12

THEY LAUGH

0:40:120:40:13

So, not in the greatest condition, obviously well played with,

0:40:130:40:16

but should you ever decide to sell it, today we'd be thinking about

0:40:160:40:19

a figure at auction of between... probably £1,500 and £2,000.

0:40:190:40:24

Oh...yeah, that's good, yeah.

0:40:240:40:26

quite shocking, really, I didn't realise they'd be that...

0:40:260:40:29

you know, that collectible.

0:40:290:40:30

Very collectible, and should you sell them, that'll get you into

0:40:300:40:35

-at least four or five Premiership games!

-Yes, it would!

0:40:350:40:39

It was given to me by a very close friend as a birthday present.

0:40:420:40:46

I don't know where it came from, but we were in London,

0:40:460:40:49

and lived near Portobello Road,

0:40:490:40:51

so it could have come from there, but I am not sure.

0:40:510:40:57

Well, there's a newspaper on the back, you showed me,

0:40:570:41:00

-which has a date on it.

-Yes.

0:41:000:41:02

-So do you think it's that date, 1827?

-I don't know.

0:41:020:41:06

-Well, it's not.

-It isn't.

-No.

0:41:060:41:10

It's known as a stumpwork picture,

0:41:100:41:13

which really started in the sort of 16th, 17th century.

0:41:130:41:17

And it was a way of having

0:41:170:41:19

a three-dimensional needlework picture,

0:41:190:41:21

so you would have layer upon layer of felt,

0:41:210:41:25

and then they would have metal thread

0:41:250:41:28

and gold thread, silver thread,

0:41:280:41:30

on top of the felt.

0:41:300:41:33

And it gave you this wonderful three-dimensional look about it.

0:41:330:41:36

-Um, it would have been made somewhere in Britain.

-Mm-hmm.

0:41:360:41:39

It could have been commissioned by a very rich family -

0:41:390:41:42

it was a very expensive piece to have made -

0:41:420:41:45

to hang on their wall.

0:41:450:41:47

And it would be somewhere in the region of 1650 to 1660.

0:41:470:41:52

Somewhere in that region.

0:41:520:41:54

It's got a background of silk satin,

0:41:540:41:58

and it would have been bright, bright colours.

0:41:580:42:01

Fantastic colours. And while we're talking about colour,

0:42:010:42:04

I don't know whether you've noticed that right, right down here,

0:42:040:42:08

there's the remains of some very bright red in the background.

0:42:080:42:11

Oh, yes.

0:42:110:42:14

The red tends to go first, then the blue.

0:42:140:42:17

-You can see a little bit of blue here.

-Yes.

0:42:170:42:19

But what I love about it is the whole story,

0:42:190:42:22

and every time you look at it...

0:42:220:42:24

-There's something else.

-There's something else.

0:42:240:42:26

I mean, there's two people fishing here,

0:42:260:42:29

and it's totally out of proportion with a fountain there,

0:42:290:42:33

and there's a baby here...

0:42:330:42:36

-Anyway, the whole thing is so exciting.

-Oh!

0:42:360:42:40

Do you know what the story is?

0:42:400:42:42

Well, luckily, I found out from a very dear friend I rang

0:42:430:42:48

who is a vicar, and I talked her through the scene,

0:42:480:42:51

and she recognised it, and she told me what it was.

0:42:510:42:53

It's Elijah, who's given up, he's lain down under the tree,

0:42:530:42:58

and the angel comes along and says, "You can't die, you get up now,"

0:42:580:43:02

and this widow, who's the widow of Sychar, with her child,

0:43:020:43:07

comes along to give him sustenance.

0:43:070:43:09

Gives him a loaf of bread - there are two loaves in there -

0:43:090:43:13

-and oil. And you see that chain round her neck?

-Yes.

0:43:130:43:18

She's got oil on her back. And from then on, having given Elijah

0:43:180:43:23

the oil and the bread,

0:43:230:43:25

-she has oil and bread for the rest of her life.

-Ah!

0:43:250:43:29

-Isn't that wonderful?

-It is indeed.

0:43:290:43:32

So it's just the most fantastic scene.

0:43:320:43:36

I would happily say it's worth £3,000.

0:43:360:43:40

Even in that condition.

0:43:400:43:42

Gosh, yeah.

0:43:420:43:43

Well, well, well.

0:43:430:43:45

It's not often in English art that you get something so pure, crisp,

0:43:470:43:52

abstract, modernist as this.

0:43:520:43:55

And I'm right in thinking the name Ben Nicholson is attached?

0:43:550:43:59

It is indeed, yes. It's the Ben Nicholson wall

0:43:590:44:02

that was at Sutton Place, and still is,

0:44:020:44:05

and my father constructed it.

0:44:050:44:08

So this is the maquette, then, a preparatory work,

0:44:080:44:12

for a very famous piece of sculpture, in a garden,

0:44:120:44:16

-and I think you've got a photograph of it here.

-I have.

0:44:160:44:18

-You've been to visit it.

-We have, yes.

0:44:180:44:21

Erected in the early 1980s,

0:44:210:44:24

and by one of the most important international abstract painters,

0:44:240:44:29

and sculptors, at work in England in the 20th century, Ben Nicholson.

0:44:290:44:33

-Mm-hmm.

-So how did your father get involved?

0:44:330:44:36

Well, my father came from Ireland with the family in 1957,

0:44:360:44:41

he'd worked at Harland and Wolff shipyard as a marble mason,

0:44:410:44:45

came to work at Whitehead & Sons in London,

0:44:450:44:48

and the company was commissioned to make this sculpture for...

0:44:480:44:54

To create this big piece of garden sculpture.

0:44:540:44:57

It's stunningly beautiful, and absolutely enormous.

0:44:570:45:01

I mean, it must be 15 feet high and about 30 or 40 feet wide.

0:45:010:45:05

Now, there's an image beneath it of a man at work.

0:45:050:45:09

-Yep, that's my dad.

-So this is him working on the actual original?

0:45:090:45:13

That's him actually working on the original sculpture, yes.

0:45:130:45:16

And they used diamond-toothed saws, I believe,

0:45:160:45:19

because that's the only thing that will cut marble.

0:45:190:45:22

And then we have something else here behind - what is that?

0:45:220:45:26

That's Prince Charles and Lady Diana - later Princess Diana -

0:45:260:45:30

being photographed in front of the wall.

0:45:300:45:33

You can see how it relates in scale to people.

0:45:330:45:36

It's really useful seeing a piece of sculpture like that.

0:45:360:45:39

And they're a long way forward,

0:45:390:45:41

so you can really see the size of the piece,

0:45:410:45:44

because that is an awful long way back from them.

0:45:440:45:46

20, 30 yards, probably.

0:45:460:45:49

And amazing when you think of your father's contact

0:45:490:45:52

-with such an important 20th-century sculptor.

-Yes.

0:45:520:45:55

I mean, he worked with Barbara Hepworth,

0:45:550:45:57

he settled in St Ives, but he went on in his art, in his sculpture,

0:45:570:46:02

in his ideas, to be a truly international modernist artist.

0:46:020:46:07

-Yes.

-You know, someone of whom Britain is inordinately proud

0:46:070:46:10

-in the 20th century.

-Indeed, yes.

0:46:100:46:12

And my father said that there were three maquettes made,

0:46:120:46:16

one of which Nicholson family had,

0:46:160:46:19

one of which the Whitehead & Son family had,

0:46:190:46:22

-and my father was given this one.

-So this is one of the three.

0:46:220:46:25

-It was.

-Well, what a wonderful thing to own!

0:46:250:46:28

-Fantastic.

-So we ought to think about a valuation for it.

0:46:280:46:33

Well, the value's immaterial to me,

0:46:330:46:35

-but...

-Well, unfortunately, it's boringly material to us!

0:46:350:46:39

THEY LAUGH

0:46:390:46:41

Er, so, I can see this being worth

0:46:410:46:44

-£20,000 to £30,000.

-Good God.

0:46:440:46:46

You will need to dust very carefully!

0:46:470:46:50

LAUGHTER

0:46:500:46:51

Good Lord.

0:46:510:46:53

Amazed.

0:46:540:46:55

This is all looking terribly dull.

0:46:570:47:00

Er, what do you think it's made of?

0:47:000:47:03

Er, I was hoping it would be silver,

0:47:030:47:06

but I have a feeling it could be tin?

0:47:060:47:08

Well, I can give you some good news - it is silver!

0:47:080:47:12

-Oh, fabulous, great.

-Do you know where it was made?

0:47:120:47:15

-No, I don't. No, not...

-OK, well.

0:47:150:47:19

I have an idea it could be Germany or Russia,

0:47:190:47:22

-but I'm not...

-Second time right.

0:47:220:47:24

It's Russian.

0:47:240:47:27

And this is a particular trompe l'oeil effect

0:47:270:47:30

that you get being produced in Russia,

0:47:300:47:33

this wonderful sort of folded cloth.

0:47:330:47:36

But as it is now, because it's covered in all this powder,

0:47:360:47:40

we're not really seeing properly the magnificence of it.

0:47:400:47:45

Now, what I want to do is actually just go over it with a cloth.

0:47:450:47:50

OK, now the effect actually of doing this should be quite dramatic.

0:47:510:47:56

And can you see...

0:48:000:48:01

..what's happening here?

0:48:030:48:05

That we've got the silver with all this wonderful detail

0:48:050:48:10

-against the gilding on that side?

-Oh, wow, lovely.

0:48:100:48:13

And so we've got this wonderful contrast

0:48:130:48:15

-between the gold and the silver.

-Wonderful.

0:48:150:48:18

Having said it's from Russia, are there any family connections?

0:48:180:48:22

My great-grandmother was German,

0:48:220:48:25

but she was, well, we think she was born in Russia, in Archangel.

0:48:250:48:29

So we've kind of connected the two. Er...

0:48:290:48:33

and then they moved to London,

0:48:330:48:36

and this came too.

0:48:360:48:38

Which is absolutely splendid.

0:48:380:48:41

I mean, they are such lovely things. By the time that's clean,

0:48:410:48:44

it is going to look stunning with the contrast between the two.

0:48:440:48:47

This trompe l'oeil effect that they wanted to achieve.

0:48:470:48:51

What would you put on it?

0:48:510:48:53

I don't know - it's a very unusual shape,

0:48:530:48:56

and with the little serviette, I wouldn't have a clue.

0:48:560:49:00

-Well, it had a very specific use in Russia.

-OK.

0:49:000:49:03

-And that was for bread and salt.

-Oh, right!

0:49:030:49:07

This is what you would serve up your bread and salt on.

0:49:070:49:10

OK?

0:49:100:49:12

Now, we do have marks, as well.

0:49:120:49:14

And the marks read Moscow, 1883.

0:49:140:49:19

-Ah, OK!

-Now, those initials, do they mean anything to you?

0:49:190:49:23

Yes, they're my grandmother's initials.

0:49:230:49:26

There's a C and an M for Clara...Mormon, I think her name was.

0:49:260:49:30

She was the German lady.

0:49:300:49:33

Well, it's a delightful object, it really is.

0:49:330:49:37

You don't see that many of them over here,

0:49:370:49:39

although there's a lot of Russian work in Britain.

0:49:390:49:43

But, um, we do of course have to think about the value.

0:49:430:49:46

Yeah.

0:49:460:49:48

And...I would suggest today

0:49:480:49:51

it should be selling for in the region of £1,200, £1,500.

0:49:510:49:55

Wow! That's lovely.

0:49:550:49:57

Better than a bit of old tin!

0:49:570:50:00

That's wonderful, thank you very much. That's lovely.

0:50:000:50:03

Now, I saw you with this stretcher in the queue,

0:50:040:50:07

and sometimes people have to wait a while to see an expert so they

0:50:070:50:09

bring along a chair - I thought this was taking things a bit far!

0:50:090:50:12

Tell me about this stretcher.

0:50:120:50:14

Er, it was purchased by me approximately 30 years ago

0:50:150:50:20

at a small military show.

0:50:200:50:24

And the person that I bought it off, he said it come from the local area,

0:50:240:50:28

and it was in someone's shed or barn or something.

0:50:280:50:31

-That's all I really know about it.

-And it's Second World War.

0:50:310:50:34

It's a Second World War stretcher, and it's American.

0:50:340:50:38

And do you ever use it as a stretcher?

0:50:380:50:40

Er, I've never actually used it, no!

0:50:400:50:44

Well, I was speaking to one of our experts,

0:50:440:50:46

who said...I mean, it's quite rare that this has survived,

0:50:460:50:50

because usually the mechanism was used for wheelbarrows

0:50:500:50:53

and carts after the war.

0:50:530:50:55

And the stretcher bit got thrown away.

0:50:550:50:58

So it's great that you've still got it. You've never used it?

0:50:580:51:01

No, I haven't, no.

0:51:010:51:03

Well, it's valued at about £100, um...

0:51:030:51:06

I thought we might give it a go. What do you think?

0:51:070:51:10

I'd be willing to give it a go, yes!

0:51:100:51:12

Now, I'll need a volunteer.

0:51:120:51:14

Shall we use the more strapping chap? Do you mind, madam?

0:51:140:51:17

Do you want to grab that end? Let's see if it still works.

0:51:170:51:20

-It's Frank, isn't it?

-It's Frank, yes.

0:51:200:51:22

-Do you want to get on?

-I will!

0:51:220:51:24

Come on, let's risk it for a biscuit!

0:51:240:51:26

Right.

0:51:280:51:30

That way? Come on then! Oof!

0:51:300:51:32

LAUGHTER

0:51:320:51:34

-Well, it works!

-It does!

0:51:340:51:36

So, what a beautiful scent bottle,

0:51:380:51:40

and it's glowing in the sunshine here.

0:51:400:51:42

And it's glowing because it's gold and hardstone.

0:51:420:51:45

But tell me about it with you.

0:51:450:51:47

I inherited it from my cousin, whose miniature I have here,

0:51:470:51:53

and it was he who left me this beautiful scent bottle.

0:51:530:51:56

And it is utterly beautiful, and it's quite surprising, I think,

0:51:560:51:59

what a luxurious object it is.

0:51:590:52:01

Because the conjunction of precious metalwork and stone

0:52:010:52:04

is something incredibly ancient

0:52:040:52:06

and was a status symbol since the Renaissance.

0:52:060:52:08

And here we have mid-19th-century lapidary work

0:52:080:52:11

and gold-mounted scent bottle,

0:52:110:52:13

um, but the message is the same,

0:52:130:52:16

that it's for a rather high-status person,

0:52:160:52:18

somebody who could actually afford an object of great luxury like this

0:52:180:52:21

in the 19th century.

0:52:210:52:23

And of course it is a conventional scent bottle here,

0:52:230:52:26

but it's made by a firm called Sampson Mordan,

0:52:260:52:28

who were enormously sophisticated engineers in this sort of work.

0:52:280:52:32

And there's a loaded, um, stopper here, with a spring,

0:52:320:52:36

so that when you close it down,

0:52:360:52:38

inside, it makes a perfect seal, so the scent can't come out.

0:52:380:52:42

And the other end, it has the vinaigrette.

0:52:420:52:44

Yes, it does. And let's have a look.

0:52:440:52:46

And a vinaigrette isn't something everybody encounters

0:52:460:52:48

on a daily basis, but it's another way of taking scent.

0:52:480:52:52

And there would be a little sponge underneath this grille,

0:52:520:52:55

which would be loaded with rose water,

0:52:550:52:57

and you'd use it when there was sort of unpleasant effluvia

0:52:570:53:01

around and about, which there certainly was in the 19th century,

0:53:010:53:04

and perhaps if you were in a coach or something like that

0:53:040:53:06

and you wanted to smell that to mask an unpleasant associated odour,

0:53:060:53:10

well, that's great. But the point about it is

0:53:100:53:14

its function is almost secondary

0:53:140:53:16

to the fact that it is a luxurious object.

0:53:160:53:18

It's carved, hollowed from stone.

0:53:180:53:20

-It's nice to hold.

-Very tactile, isn't it?

0:53:200:53:22

but it is jasper, it's called bloodstone,

0:53:220:53:24

and it's called bloodstone because it's green flecked with red.

0:53:240:53:28

And there are collectors of scent bottles, thematic collectors,

0:53:280:53:32

and they would be jolly pleased to find that.

0:53:320:53:34

And there are people interested in goldsmith work and lapidary work,

0:53:340:53:38

so I'm thinking somewhere in the region of £2,000,

0:53:380:53:40

-possibly even £3,000.

-Mm-hmm. Yeah.

0:53:400:53:43

-But you don't care, do you?

-It's very nice!

0:53:430:53:46

-No, it's nice to know! Yes, yes.

-I don't care that much.

0:53:460:53:49

But I think you care even less than me!

0:53:490:53:52

It's absolutely brilliant to meet you,

0:53:520:53:54

-and you brought wonderful things, and thank you very much.

-Thank you!

0:53:540:53:58

-It's an electric lamp.

-Yes.

0:53:580:54:00

-Did you convert it?

-No.

-Well, that's a relief!

0:54:000:54:04

-But who did convert it? Do we know?

-Um, I'm not quite sure.

0:54:040:54:09

It belonged to my great-aunt.

0:54:090:54:11

I think they bought it in an auction

0:54:110:54:14

and probably bought it as a lamp.

0:54:140:54:17

At what time, do we know?

0:54:170:54:19

-Er, 1950s.

-Right.

0:54:190:54:21

-So it was probably old when it was bought.

-Yes.

0:54:210:54:24

But how old is it, that's the question we need to ask.

0:54:240:54:27

Because it is an Italian majolica drug jar.

0:54:270:54:30

But is it an old one or is it a newer one?

0:54:300:54:35

I think it was certainly old when they bought it,

0:54:350:54:38

because actually it started life as an oil lamp. If you look in,

0:54:380:54:40

-here is the well...

-Oh, yes!

-..where the oil would have been kept.

0:54:400:54:45

So from a drug jar, it's been made into an oil lamp,

0:54:450:54:50

and this here actually comes off

0:54:500:54:51

and that's where the oil burner would have been,

0:54:510:54:54

and the flue and the shade.

0:54:540:54:56

And then probably in the 1920s they've converted it,

0:54:560:54:59

you get conversion kits, for the newfangled electricity.

0:54:590:55:02

Which you still use today.

0:55:020:55:05

-Right.

-But was it new when it was bought? That's the question.

0:55:050:55:10

I suppose we should look at it first.

0:55:100:55:13

It's got the splendid decoration round the front, "Mostarda F",

0:55:130:55:15

which I think stands for "mostarda di frutta,"

0:55:150:55:18

which is a North Italian fruit conserve with mustard extract in it.

0:55:180:55:22

And it's great that we've got all these sort of quinces

0:55:220:55:25

and figs and different fruits which probably were the fruits

0:55:250:55:28

that were inside this jar And it was obviously,

0:55:280:55:30

we call it a drug jar, but it's a storage jar in effect.

0:55:300:55:34

-And obviously it was quite a lot of jam!

-Mmm, yeah!

0:55:340:55:37

Um, have you ever looked into its date, or...?

0:55:370:55:41

Um... Well, my husband and I were at the Victoria & Albert last year,

0:55:410:55:45

and we saw a jar exactly the same size

0:55:450:55:48

which looked as though it could have been made by the same potter.

0:55:480:55:52

That was, I think, a 15th-century Italian drug jar.

0:55:520:55:59

15th century.

0:55:590:56:01

Well...

0:56:010:56:03

as a 19th-century jar, it's £400 to £600.

0:56:030:56:09

Very nice.

0:56:100:56:12

But it's not.

0:56:120:56:14

It's Venetian.

0:56:140:56:16

-It's about 1520.

-Wow!

0:56:160:56:19

And it's worth £10,000.

0:56:190:56:20

GASPS AND LAUGHTER

0:56:200:56:23

Oh, my goodness!

0:56:230:56:25

So I think you should stop using it as a lamp!

0:56:250:56:27

-Yes - it's got a hole in!

-It has, a hole and a couple of cracks,

0:56:270:56:31

but it is, I'll say it again, Venetian, 1520.

0:56:310:56:35

-£10,000.

-Wow!

-I think you should stop using it as a lamp,

0:56:350:56:38

beautiful as it is!

0:56:380:56:40

Well, thank you very much, that's amazing!

0:56:400:56:43

-I hope it's a pleasant surprise.

-It is!

0:56:430:56:45

I almost feel I should cut the flex off and stop you now!

0:56:450:56:48

LAUGHTER Oh, bother! What am I going to use?

0:56:480:56:51

We're so grateful to everyone who's come to see us at Kirby Hall today.

0:56:540:56:57

But I don't know what one of the owners would have made of it

0:56:570:57:00

when he was here. Sir Christopher Hatton,

0:57:000:57:02

Chancellor to Queen Elizabeth I. When he bought the house,

0:57:020:57:06

it overlooked the medieval village nearby, and he was so horrified

0:57:060:57:09

that he had to look at the riff-raff through his window

0:57:090:57:12

that he had the village razed to the ground, and all that's left of it

0:57:120:57:15

are sort of bumps and lumps in the grass.

0:57:150:57:18

So heaven knows what he would have made of us here today!

0:57:180:57:21

We've enjoyed it, though. From Kirby Hall in Northamptonshire, bye-bye.

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