Browse content similar to Kirby Hall 2. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!
Line | From | To | |
---|---|---|---|
Today, the Roadshow makes a return visit | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
to Kirby Hall in Northamptonshire. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
By the 16th century, when Kirby Hall was built, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
it was regarded as one of the finest, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
most chic houses in all of England. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Sadly now though, most of it is a ruin. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
That part there has no roof. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
That corner there has been partially restored. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
By the mid-1800s, the family that lived here had packed up and gone, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
and the only person that lived in it was a shepherd and his flock. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
WOODWIND INSTRUMENTAL | 0:01:06 | 0:01:07 | |
But like the valuables we see brought to the Roadshow, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
you only need to look a little closer | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
and a place like this soon starts to breathe, come to life. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
-STRING INSTRUMENTAL -This is the Long Gallery. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
It was once a beautiful, long corridor filled with paintings | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
and wall hangings and the Hatton family, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
who owned Kirby Hall for most of its history, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
would stroll up and down here | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
if it was too rainy or cold outside. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
A kind of luxurious exercise track. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
Though I doubt anyone broke into a sweat. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
Some parts of the house have been partially restored by English Heritage, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
meaning it's a little bit easier to imagine what went on here. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Visitors would be met here by the owner in the Great Hall, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
while musicians played up in the minstrels gallery. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
And with its high walls and ornate ceiling, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
it was room designed to impress. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
And give guests a crick in their necks. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
King James I of England was so impressed, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
he stayed at Kirby Hall four times, no less. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
He would greet his visitors here in the Great Withdrawing Room | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
under a starry white canopy, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
surrounded by gold and silver cushions. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
You have to imagine it. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
And special guests like the King | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
were invited to take a tour of the gardens, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
which were a big status symbol. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
They would slowly perambulate, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
discussing important matters of state, fashion, court gossip, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
and stop occasionally and admire the statues and the exotic plants, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
which were gathered from across the globe. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Today the garden is open to our own special guests, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
who are here to admire and discuss antiques, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
as Kirby Hall plays host to the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
And if you want to get involved with the discussions, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
why not play along with our valuation game? | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Press the red button on your remote and test your antiques knowledge. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
Standing with her hand on her hip like this, I get the impression | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
that this woman is trying to look distinctly saucy, don't you? | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
Yes, definitely. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Yes, she came from, as far as we know, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
from Yates's Wine Lodge in Leicester, from the owner. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
-Which is like, what, a vintners, or a wine bar? -Yes, it is. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
Yes, it was a wine bar, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
but it was very well known in Leicester in those days, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
in the 1950s and it was given to my grandfather | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
as part of a payment for a debt that the owner owed my grandfather | 0:03:37 | 0:03:43 | |
and then in the 1980s when he died, he passed it on to my father. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
So, the question is was the debt worth it? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
It's signed at the bottom right, Adolphe Piot. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Piot was a reasonably prominent late 19th century French artist, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:59 | |
more in the academic tradition than the impressionist counterparts | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
who were working in the late 19th century. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
But the question is, is it an original? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Because he is much copied and I would hate to think that it isn't. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
I mean, have you speculated on the quality of the picture? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
No, not really. I'm not really very well up in art. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
No, I just know what I was told about it | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
and it was just passed to me when my father died. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Well, she's in sort of traditional Italian garb, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
-isn't she, really, I suppose? -Yes. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
I mean, she doesn't really look particularly French. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
She looks deliberately exotic. I love those earrings. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
And when one is trying to determine whether a picture is an original | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
or a copy, very often the thing to do | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
is look deep into the paint surface. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
Try and find out if the glazes, the layers of paint have been worked up. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
I've been looking at that hand there | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
-and I have to say, it's quite encouraging. -Right. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
I mean, as an artist he's not the greatest of painters | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
but he does have a way with flesh. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
I can imagine this is just the sort of woman that would have been | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-toasted in the wine bar. -Yes. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
I mean, she does have that look. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
She looks as though she would, you know, encourage a bit of bottoms up. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
-Yes. -I also rather like the way that her eyes are done. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
I mean, they're done with a sort of touch of a brush, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
rather than overly emphatic. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
And when one is trying to work out what is a copy from an original, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
very often with copies you get a hardness, a simplicity. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
Something that just doesn't quite work. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
So I'm sort of moving away from thinking that this is a later copy. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:42 | |
The question is, is it by him? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
If it's not by him it's worth, I don't know, £1,000, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
because it's a very nice looking image. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
If it is by him it's worth probably £6,000 to £8,000. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
And now, with the benefit of the sunlight on it - | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
I can't tell you how useful a bit of glare from the sun is - | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
I'm coming down clearly on one side. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
This is an original. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-Oh, great. -And therefore I don't know quite how much the debt was for | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
but I hope £6,000 to £8,000 covers it. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
I hope so too! Yes. Thank you. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
-Well, what have we got here? You tell me. -Well, it's a Chinese bowl. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:29 | |
-I was given it by my uncle as a wedding present in 1979. -Oh, right! | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
He, I think, inherited it from his grandmother | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
-who used it as a dog bowl for the Dandie Dinmont. -Wonderful! | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-Which is why it's been known in the family as Dandie's bowl. -Lovely! | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
There is a family story that a diplomat in the family | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
looted it from the Summer Palace in Beijing | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
but I have no idea if that's right or not. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Let's just see how correct you are. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
Yes, it's Chinese. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
Yes, it's a bowl. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
The age, of course, one can't actually determine | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
by how many generations it goes back. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
That's a common mistake. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
But it is old. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
It was made during the reign of the Emperor Kangxi, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
who reigned from 1662-1722. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
-Gosh! -So this is a late 17th century dog bowl. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
This has been entirely decorated by hand | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
in a palette we call fan hiver, named by a Frenchman | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
back in the 19th century and we've stuck to it. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
It shows, most importantly, two redheaded Manchurian cranes. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:46 | |
Now, those cranes disappear in autumn. They fly away. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:53 | |
And in spring, back they come. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
They mate for life so in Chinese it's symbolic of spring | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
and of marital fidelity. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
So it's an appropriate wedding present. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
It is. You've also got pine, which is symbolic of long life. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
-Oh! -So that's quite good too. And finally, the sun indicated... | 0:08:09 | 0:08:17 | |
or the moon, with a single line around it. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
-I think it's a lovely thing. -I do too. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Despite the flaking, I think it would sell for probably £2,500 to £3,500. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:31 | |
-That's quite a lot for a dog bowl. -It is! Thank you! | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
-It's really quite large, this table, isn't it? -It is. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
It's very big. Very long. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
I'm interested to know where it's come from and basically who made it. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
Do you have any family history at all? | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
My uncle bought it in a house sale in Allington | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
and we believe he paid less than £10 for it. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
-OK. So it wasn't last week. -No. A good 50 years ago. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
Right. OK. So, where does it come from? | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Well, I can't tell you the house it's come from. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
-I can tell you the country it comes from. -Right. -It's English. -Super. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
-But in the French style. -Right. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
So, the whole of this decoration here, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
this leg here is actually an Italian form leg | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
but what became a cabriole leg was used in the French style | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
and all of this very effuse carving here on the frieze | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
-is typical of the rococo period of about the mid 18th century. -Right. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
-But is it 18th century? -You tell me. -No. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
-It's 19th-century and it's Victorian. -Right. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-1860 or 1870. -Yeah. -I don't know where this has come from. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
A big house like Kirby Hall possibly. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
When the extra wings were added on to the Victorian families, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
we'll probably never find out where it was made for. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
What I think is interesting is this carving, as I called it, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
it's not the right word because if you look at it carefully, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
can you see it's got splits all the way along on this foliage? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
-That's because it's not carved wood. -Yeah, plaster. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
Plaster, it's composition, which obviously will affect the value. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
-Yeah. -There's another thing here, which I've noticed, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
which may or may not affect the value. What have you been doing? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
Well, that was my uncle. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
He wanted to fit it around a skirting board, so he got his saw out. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
Well, he's done it quite neatly, hasn't he? | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
Yes, he's a good carpenter. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:15 | |
But you can see the raw pine of the frame where he's cut it, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
but what's interesting is, if you look at the top of the legs, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
you can see these two holes on either side | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
and that is exactly what I was expecting to see | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
cos I'm sure there is a huge, great mirror, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
again composition plaster mirror, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
great big one, probably six-foot high. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
There is one in the hallway, actually. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
Oh. From this, do you think? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
Probably not from this, but, yeah, there's two six-foot high mirrors. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Well, it's the sort of thing... It may well come from this. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
I bet there was a pair of tables in a big ballroom, a big house. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
And strange enough, there were some big houses of this Louis XIV style | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
on Clapham Common that had this type of furniture | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
in the 1850s and '60s. And you are using it today, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
it's in the house, is it? | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
-Yes, it's just... It has pictures all over it. -In the hall or something? | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-Yeah, it's in our living room. -The living room. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Yeah, well, it's perfect. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
It's a perfect thing with this lovely white Carrara marble, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
really very good quality marble. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
-This was quite an expensive thing at the time. -Right. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
-So, well, it's big, isn't it? -It's... Yeah. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
And big isn't necessarily beautiful, but what's good about it | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
is that it's not too deep, that's the important thing. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
It fits well in the room, actually. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
Yeah, that's the good thing, in a big room. So valuation... | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
Under... Under £10 50 years ago. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
Auction today... | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
-Easily 3,000 - 4,000. -Oh, really? Really? I'm surprised. Yeah. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
-And pleased, I hope. -I am. I'm very pleased. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
It's... Yeah, I do like it. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
-It's a bit garish, but I do like it. -Bling! | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
Well, normally, whenever I hear anything buzzing, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
I run a mile and my family are in hysterics, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
but this little bee brooch | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
is something I'm not going to run away from. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
How did it come into your family? | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
It was my grandmother's | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
-and I think probably purchased after the First World War. -Fantastic. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
And how have you ended up with it? | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Then her jewellery was split between my mother and her sister | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
and then I've looked after it because my mother is in a nursing home, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
-so it will end up with my sister, probably. -Yes. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
But it's just been sat there, not being admired or anything? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
My mother used to wear it a lot and my sister used to wear it. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Oh, that's lovely to see. In the Victorian... | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
-I don't! -No! -LAUGHTER | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Maybe you should! It would be great! | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
In the Victorian period, bees, particularly, were seen as | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
a sign of reflecting the ideas of virtue and working hard. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
The queen bee and all that. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:33 | |
So it's really fabulous to see such a good example, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
which is all set with these beautiful old cut diamonds | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
and dainty little ruby eyes, so really quite fun. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
Now, I'm not sure how much time you've spent looking at it, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
but you've probably noticed that, if you turn it over, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
we can see that there is a brooch pin fitting, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
which is actually detachable. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
You unscrew it here and then take that off | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
and you can actually put in a hairpin | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
and then wear it in the hair, so great fun. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
So it's actually yellow gold on the bottom and then silver on the top, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
which was typical of the way that Victorian jewellery was made, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
so it's nice to see the two contrasts | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
and the silver on the top helps to keep the diamonds nice | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
and white because it's the whiteness in diamonds | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
that we like to see, so it's beautifully made, really gorgeous. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
But late Victorian? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
Date-wise, round about 1860-1870, so mid-Victorian | 0:13:29 | 0:13:36 | |
and reflects the love and passion | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
that, particularly, Queen Victoria had regarding nature. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
-No markings on it. -No markings. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
We didn't have to have markings on jewellery in the Victorian period, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
not until the 20th century that we start to see that come in. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
So attributing it to a maker is very difficult, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
but it probably would have been a good-quality maker. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
-In England? -In England, yes, absolutely. No, great fun. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
Now, value-wise, of course, if it appeared at auction, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
we'd be looking in the region of, probably, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
£6,000 - £8,000. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
-Very good. -Yeah. -Thank you very much, that's wonderful. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
My pleasure. Thank you. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
Now, this is a very strange shape, isn't it? | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
-It's a bit like a slipper gone wrong from Ali Baba's cave, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
What do you know about it? | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
I love it. I love it. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:28 | |
I inherited it from a friend who died a couple of years ago | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-and I do know that it is Russian. It's got a date on it. -Yes. -1750. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:37 | |
Yes. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
And it also, I think, has a coin at the bottom | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
and I don't know if it was made into a bowl from a coin, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
but the coin, I think, is Elizabeth, who was the wife of Peter I. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:52 | |
Yes, absolutely. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:53 | |
Well, that's absolutely bull's-eye, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
but it's a complete red herring! | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
Oh! Right! | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
No, it's brilliant research, but it is actually very, very much | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
later than that. It's almost certainly made in the 20th century. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
-Oh, good Lord! -Yes, but that's not a problem because, in fact, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
it rather raises the stakes | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
in that this is a piece of Russian silver in the Slavonic taste. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
It's called a kovsh and it's a great word. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
It's a Slavonic wine-tasting vessel, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
but its shape is secondary to the evocation of Russia. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
Really, this is a patriotic object and the sight of it would | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
bring on sort of the evocation of old Russia, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
terribly important to the imperial family | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
before the Russian Revolution, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:35 | |
when they became particularly self-conscious about their role | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
as successors to the Romanovs, so a very exciting object indeed for me. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
-Oh! -Yes, and in order to evoke this past even more clearly, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
there is a coin from Empress Elizabeth in the base. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
And so it's a bit of a sort of confection, if you like, but also, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
it's in a technique which is very rare in this sort of enamel work. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
More often than not, this is cloisonne enamel. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
-Cloisonne means a bee's cell and the enamel is held in it. -Yes. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
And it is blind, usually, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
but in the case of yours, against the brilliant sunshine, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
we can see the colours coming through, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
the blue and the green, and we actually this plique-a-jour enamel | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
and it's a corruption of applique a jour, applied to the day, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
and it's a very rare and very hazardous technique of enamelling. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
-Hazardous? Why? -Well, because it's hard to achieve. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
The silver has to be pierced and then it has to be backed with, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
perhaps, copper and then the enamel fired into it | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
and then the lining removed, leaving the enamel like stained glass. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
And we can add even a little bit more knowledge | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
-because it is actually signed with a hallmark. -Yes. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
Which not only tells me this is 20th century, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
but it also tells me that it was made by | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
a cooperative silversmithing group called the 11th Artel | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
and the 11th Artel were... | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
-It's all very mysterious, isn't it? -Yes! It is! | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
-And I'm not making it all up, either. -It's fascinating! -And... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Fascinating! | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
And the 11th Artel supplied the great houses | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
who were retailing silver of this type, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
that included firms like Ovchinnikov and Khlebnikov | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
and, in competition to, of course, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
the greatest goldsmith of the time, Faberge. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
But Faberge wasn't terribly keen on these old Russian-style things. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
He preferred to get his sources from elsewhere | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
and it couldn't really be more... | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
more desirable and I think this is a very rare expression | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
of this genre of enamelling from Russia and... | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
and I think, without a shadow of doubt, that it would fetch | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
-£2,500 - £3,000 under the hammer. -Heavens! Oh, wonderful! | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
Thank you very much! Excellent! | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
But you're never going to part with it because it's... | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
-No, no, I love it. -Exactly. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
I love it and it is souvenir of this friend, so I will keep it. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
I hadn't expected, when I turned up at the Roadshow today, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
that I would see a massive political statement in the form of a chair. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
Now, you carved this chair, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
which is all about the MP's expenses scandal back in 2009. Why? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
I chose it to commemorate my 30 years in business, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
but I just thought it was a good story | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
and I wanted to spend the time and make something | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
that showed something of our political system, really. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
It's quite something! I was so interested to see this | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
because obviously we did so much about this on the news | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
and I had long conversations | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
with the editor of the Daily Telegraph about it. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
The Telegraph, you've got the newspaper there, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
broke this story in May 2009. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
I noticed you've put one of the more arcane things, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
which was the duck house that an MP | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
certainly put down as an expense, it was deemed as not allowable. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Of course, you might think! | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
But the duck house was the one | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
-that really sticks in people's minds. -Yes. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
How fantastic! | 0:18:51 | 0:18:52 | |
-You must get a very strong reaction whenever people look at it? -I do. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
People are a bit amazed because you can't buy this in the High Street. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
I think Paul Atterbury is probably the man he needs to look at it, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
our expert Paul Atterbury. I can't wait to see what he says about it. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Neither can I! | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
I'm looking at a group, spread out here, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
of toys and books from the mid 1920s to about 1930, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
obviously much too old to be yours. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
But they are all of the same date, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
so were they from one generation in the past | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
or are they things that you've collected | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
particularly with that date in mind? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Well, all of these toys belonged to one little boy and the... | 0:19:28 | 0:19:34 | |
the story really started in 1930 and my mother, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
who was 10 at the time, and her sister, who was 15, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
took their little brother, Eric, who was seven, to a wedding | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
and when the bride came out of the church, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
there was a sort of surge of people on the pavement | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
and the two girls crossed the road to see the bride better | 0:19:53 | 0:19:59 | |
and they shouted for Eric to cross and, unfortunately, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
he did cross and there was a van and he was killed. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
And, em, my grandmother, who obviously never ever got over that, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:15 | |
just put all his toys together in a box. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
What a dreadful story! | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
Extraordinary! Incredibly moving. Your poor grandmother. Em... | 0:20:21 | 0:20:27 | |
And... Well, I'm... | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
I'm slightly sort of taken aback now because it seems rather... | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
sort of crass to start talking about...Eric's objects. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:43 | |
But...I think we should. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
I mean, I think that Eric lived, he played with the toys, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
he read his books and he had a life | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
and obviously he had a very happy life | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
if these were the things that he left behind. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
I mean, the thing to talk about really are two German toys. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:05 | |
The first is this lovely little car in a garage | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
and, if I take it out of its little garage, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
we can see... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
on the side here, there is something that looks a bit like | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
a dumbbell or a press or something. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
In fact, you can see it even better on the back there | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
and it's made by a company called Lehmann | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
and Lehmann were a company who produced a lot of these rather... | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
When I say "lightweight", they weren't... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
They were actually physically quite light | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
and they were also sort of novelty toys | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
and they were known for that | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
and each of their toys has a number on it, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
which, during the 1990s and 2000s, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
meant that there were lots of people who collected Lehmann by number | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
and they'd say, "Oh, I'm missing a 765, I must look out for a 765. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
"Oh, my goodness! Is this a 765? Yes, it is! Well, I must have that." | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
So there are a lot of people who collected Lehmann by number, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
there was a lot of information on that company. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
The other toy that I want to talk about is this, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
which, looking at it, it in fact doesn't have a maker's mark on it, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
but I think that it can probably be linked to a company | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
called George Levy, another German company | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
and what I love about this is this three-up, the family... | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
Or four-up if you count the teddy bear! | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
You've got the driver, his missus, the child | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
and the child holding the bear, it's absolutely wonderful. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
They wouldn't have been cheap toys in the 1920s and 1930, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
they would have been something that you probably saved up for | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
and maybe Eric knew that they were expensive | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
and played with them very carefully | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
because they are in really good condition. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
The Lehmann toy here, a company that was in big manufacturing mode | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
in the 1920s, having started in the 1880s, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
that toy, I would put at between | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
perhaps £300 and £500. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
And the toy here, for various reasons, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
I think first of all because it's a motorcycle | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
and there are lots of boys out there who collect motorcycles | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
AND it's by a good maker AND it's in good condition | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
AND you've got this teddy bear element as well, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
I'm going to put that at around | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
£1,500 - £2,000. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
SHE LAUGHS Gosh! | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
Yes. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
I suppose, from my point of view, perhaps the one thing | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
that this collection is missing is a photograph of Eric. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
And we do have a photograph of Eric. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
In that case, Eric needs to be reunited with his toys | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
and then the collection becomes totally anchored into the family, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
it's not anybody's collection, it's Eric's collection. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
-And he deserves to be remembered. -Mm-hm. Thank you very much. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
That's really lovely and really good to hear the background to it, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
-so thank you very much indeed. -Pleasure. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Now, the minute I saw this enamel miniature, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
-I started hearing music. This happens to me. -Does it? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
Do you know what I'm hearing? | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
I'm hearing Rimsky-Korsakov, I'm hearing Sheherazade, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
I've lived with this music since I was about ten. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
We had an old Dansette record player | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
and we had about half a dozen albums that we bought at the local Co-op, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
cut price, and that was one that has always stayed with me. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
And why oh why should that be? | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
Because we are looking at a pair of very exotic-looking dancers. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
Just fill me in a little bit. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
It was given to my maternal grandmother by Laura Knight, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
who she knew. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Why she gave it to her, I don't know, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
just probably as a friendship gift, I suppose. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
And that's all I know. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
It's always been at home and it's known as "the Laura Knight". | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
Well, it's interesting because you also brought along | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
your grandmother's address book | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
and I flicked through and there is a name I came across right away. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
-Mr Harold Knight, husband of Laura. -Yes. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
I've had a bit of a look through this | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
and there are quite a few names of well-known artists, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
so I think it's fair to say your grandmama was quite well connected. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
-Yes. -So, it's only tiny in scale. I mean, there are my fingers. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
It is not just enamelled on copper, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
but when you get into the subject matter, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
you can see that there is little foil inclusions. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
But, again, it's in the subject. Why am I thinking Scheherazade? | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
Because I think I'm looking at two members of the Ballets Russes. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
I've got a character here who could or might be Anna Pavlova, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
or could be maybe even Ida Rubinstein, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
but we've got this very dark character in the back. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
He's been made up to look like... like a Moor. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
I can't help but think that must be Vaslav Nijinsky. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
-We were always told it was Nijinsky and Pavlova. -Oh, were you? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
-That's what the story was. -OK, well, I can't be specific. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
-And I know, on the back, that it's actually dated 1915. -Yes. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
Which is remarkable because the Ballets Russes, at that time, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
were certainly in Paris, performing Scheherazade. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
-Oh, I see! -So it all... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
-It all fits in very nicely. -Yes, yes. -So what do I think? | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
I think that if I wanted to go and buy this today, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
I don't think I'd get any change out of around about three... | 0:26:35 | 0:26:41 | |
-Possibly £3,500. -Yes. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Thank you. It's lovely. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
MUSIC: Scheherazade by Rimsky-Korsakov | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
I never know whether they should be standing on all fours like that | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
or upright, sitting upright. How do you have him? | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
Well, usually, he usually sits just standing, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
sort of looking out at the room. Yeah, like that. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
-Whoops. -Of course, well, the head comes off and there is... | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
-Well, that's the drinking cup. -Yes. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
So you put strong liquor inside the belly | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
and then you pour it into the head and drink it back that way. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
I haven't tried to do that, but I may now. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Well, it's worth trying out, but of course, the problem is | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
-that they are very vulnerable and they get broken very easily. -Yes. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
There's a... | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
We often, on the Roadshow, say | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
that if a thing looks too good to be true, it probably is, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
but this is just... | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
-I can't see anything wrong with it! -Really? -So, that's always a worry. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
Yes, so there must be something wrong with it somewhere. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
Because it's, what, 250 years old, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
it was made 1740s, something like that. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
-Really?! Do you think so? As old as that? -Well, that's what it should be. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:18 | |
-But tell me, is it? -Holding it here, I think he's absolutely OK. -Do you? | 0:28:18 | 0:28:24 | |
He's made in Staffordshire, it's a material we call salt glaze, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
which is a hard pottery with a durable glaze that does last | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
and, if you're careful, then this is what it looks like. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
Yes, I know, I'm interested in ceramics. I know about that. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
A bit of folk pottery, a bit of fun. Just a joke. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
A bear, sitting there, fine, crushed-up clay decorating his fur | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
and the chain on the end. There's not a chip on it! It's lovely! | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
No, I know. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
So I'm always worried because there are so many fakes of these about. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
-They have been copied for a long time. -I know. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
But, em... | 0:29:00 | 0:29:01 | |
Looking at him there, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
he has lasted well, so a good object | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
and so, what's he worth as a happy bear from Staffordshire? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:13 | |
-Shall we say £4,000? -Oh, no! Really? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
-That's good, isn't it? But... -Get a taxi home! | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
LAUGHTER Oh, my goodness! | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
There are many things in life I've wanted to be and never will be | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
and one of them is a woodcarver. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
And, of course, I'm reminded about that | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
by this wonderful set of chisels in a chest. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:37 | |
Tools have a particular appeal because, in a sense, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
they carry the history of all those who have used them. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
-Now, are these yours? -They are indeed. -So, you've used them? | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
I do use them, yes. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
So, when I take one of these out, and this is a rather magic one, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
which has an engraving of a lady on it, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
I can think of all those people who have used it. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
-Do you feel the same? -Oh, yes, absolutely. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
So you are, in a sense, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
-carrying on a very personal line of dedicated craftsmanship. -Absolutely. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
-So, you're a wood carver? -I am indeed, yes. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
This is a very specific statement, this chair. What drove you to do it? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
I wanted to try and elevate woodcarving to... | 0:30:16 | 0:30:22 | |
to a more modern audience and woodcarving, really, for me, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
hasn't been popular. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
You don't see it in the High Street | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
and so I wanted to show what could be done in our age | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
and I chose the MP's expenses scandal | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
as a good story to illustrate that. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Now, of course, you are following a very, very long tradition, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
as you are probably aware. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
Artists, craftsmen, commenting on political activities | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
-and shenanigans is as old as politics. -Yes. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
I'm sure the ancient Greeks were doing it, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
but in Britain, you can certainly go back to the 17th century | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
to find political cartoons, to find grotesques and caricatures | 0:31:02 | 0:31:08 | |
and it's a long tradition that goes on and on and on. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
What it tells us is that, by and large, we have been ill served | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
by badly behaved politicians for ever, nothing changes. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
-But it's more about human nature. People ARE greedy. -Yes. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
They have a choice, whether to be right or wrong, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
and so that's also what it shows. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
And those with their noses in the trough tend to be greedier. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
-Absolutely. -Let's look at the chair. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
-So we've got Cameron, Brown and Clegg... -Yes. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
-..in rather embarrassing positions... -Yes. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
-..exposed by the malpractice of their colleagues. -Yes. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
Let's remember the history of that occasion. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
The Daily Telegraph ran a series of stories | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
-thanks to the Freedom Of Information Act. -Correct, yes. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
This was all information that had been kept very quiet. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
Thanks to that act, it came into the public domain | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
and I remember, day after day after day, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
they ran these revelations about misuse of expenses, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:09 | |
but one of the great features of it was Sir Peter Vigger's duck house, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
which was an ornament for his garden, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
which apparently he may or may not have claimed expenses for. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
-Does this reference to it? -This is a reference, yes. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
-And does this reference to it? -It does. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
So you need to know the iconography of the occasion, don't you, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
to pick up the messages? The other thing was about switching houses. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
-Flipping. -Flipping, that's the phrase. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
And, of course, we can do it. We can turn a little cottage into a castle. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
-Yes. -And back again... -And back again. -..if you need to. -Yes. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
And you can do it again that side. I think this is a great reference. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
So you're making all those points. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
I am, in a very physical way. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
You can't get away from this chair, unfortunately. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
-No. It lives with you? -It does. -It's at home? -Yes, yes. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
-You sit on it? -I have done. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
How long did it take? | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
There are over 500 hours tied up in this chair, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
-so about three and a half months of my life. -Right. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
And how did you pick the woods? | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
I wanted to use traditional English timbers | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
and we've got a mix of normal oak. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
We have a wood called tiger oak, which is this part, or brown oak. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:23 | |
And then the suits are actually made from 2,000-year-old bog oak, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
found on the Fens, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
so it is this rich black colour all the way through. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
-So it's a very British statement? -Oh, yes. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
But anyway, I think it's great. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
It's a very important record of a political drama of recent times. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:43 | |
You're in a good tradition. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:44 | |
It's an extraordinary thing to make | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
and it's also an extraordinary thing for me to think about valuing. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
If this appeared, let us say, conventionally, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
it turned up with no history at auction, as a curiosity, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
it might fetch £2,000, £3,000, £4,000, even £5,000, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
but of course, because of its political resonance, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
in a sense, the sky is the limit. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
If you can find the right political buyer who wants to celebrate, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
if that's the right word, that dreadful moment, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
then 10,000 and upwards. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
-Right. -There is no price I can put on it for that reason. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
In the right context, with the right buyer, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
it's an extremely valuable object | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
and maybe getting worth all those hours you spend on it. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
-LAUGHING: Yes! -It should be sitting in the Palace of Westminster | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
to remind all those people about how they should behave. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
-Yes. -Well done. -Thank you. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
You definitely win the prize for smallest pet of the day. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
What is it and why, more importantly? | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
Well, it's something I spotted in auction a few years back. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
And I guess I just wanted a low-maintenance pet. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
You certainly got low-maintenance! Have you found out what it is? | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
The breed is a black-and-tan terrier, which I believe to be extinct now. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
-Yes. -I've got the original nameplate and it is dated 1866. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
Dated 1866, this was at the height of the Victorian collecting market | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
for this type of miniature animal. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
I know it's a bit ghoulish, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
but in Victorian times things were different and they would use | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
stillborn puppies to make these taxidermy specimens. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
-Have you done your research as to its size? -I've done a bit of... | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
a bit of research. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:31 | |
I've not done too well, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
but there's not a lot of information out there on them, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
but I believe it to be, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
if it is genuine, I believe it to be | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
probably the smallest recorded dog, it's about ten centimetres tall. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
But that's the key, you see. The SMALLEST recorded. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
I know the one you are referring to | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
and that is about ten centimetres high. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
-If yours is even a TINY bit smaller, then this is quite a find. -Yes. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:56 | |
But you do have to be really careful when buying this sort of thing | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
because there were fakes made, even in Victorian times, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
so a bit more research, really check it out. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
If it is, and you should do your research, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
2,000 - 3,000, easily. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
Wow. Wow. That's a surprise. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
But even if it isn't the smallest, it still has a value, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
-which would be £1,000 - £1,500 quite comfortably. -Yeah, that... | 0:36:15 | 0:36:21 | |
That's great. That's still fine. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
How many suitcases have you brought?! How many suitcases?! | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
Is there anything left in your house as we speak? | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Yeah, there are a few things. There is the kitchen sink. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Well, there's some great things, but I mean, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
there's one thing that stands out and it is that. It's that vase. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
-So, where did that come from? -That came from a friend. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
His auntie had died and he had all his friends come around | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
and, you know, sort of help themselves to what they wanted | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
and that was the last thing, but I loved it. I loved it. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
I saw it and I thought, "How beautiful! I really love it!" | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
And I also knew about Clarice Cliff | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
and I had a look at it | 0:37:03 | 0:37:04 | |
and I thought, "You know, that is so reminiscent of Clarice Cliff," | 0:37:04 | 0:37:09 | |
although I had a look and I didn't see a signature. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
In fact, I have been looking for a signature ever since. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
-Yeah, there's nothing on it. -It has not got a signature. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
So, would you be really pleased if it was Clarice? | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
-I would be overjoyed! -Really? | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
And, you know, I would be able to get one up on my children! | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
Well, then, when you go home, you can get one up on your children | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
-because there's nothing wrong. -Oh! | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
That is a Clarice Cliff vase. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
SHE SHRIEKS EXCITEDLY | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
-Oh, that is... -Out of all your boxes... -All my rubbish! | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
It was worth it! It was worth it! | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
All your dishes, all your plates, all your pots, or your crocks, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
right in the middle you've got a great piece of Clarice. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
-Oh, fantastic! -There's nothing wrong with it, it's absolutely perfect, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
it just left the factory without a mark on the bottom. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
It dates from about 1936, it's in a pattern called Taormina Pink | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
and today that vase is worth around £150 - £200. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
That's better than a smack in the face! | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
-And thank you. There you go! -Oh! | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
-Oh, brilliant! It was well worth it. -Good. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
This is an easy one for me because it is what it says on the box! | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
It is famous football teams | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
and it's made by the manufacturer William Britain. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
William Britains were known for making lead soldiers | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
and they produced them right the way up into the 1950s | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
and they must have made millions | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
because we see them all over the place. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
Football sets, though, are quite rare. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
So, let's see who is inside. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
Can I ask you just to hold that? Oh! | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
So, unusually, you've got two teams here | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
because they normally were just sold with one. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
Now, my knowledge of football strips is limited, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
so I'm going to have to ask for your help. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
Can you identify which teams they are? | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
I think that could be Aston Villa. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:04 | |
That's right, and the other team is Blackburn Rovers, I think. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
-Two of the main teams in the 1930s. -And are you a fan? | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
I'm a fan of football, yeah, but I don't support any of those two teams. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
So, how did they come into your possession? | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
They are my partner's late father's. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
He was born in 1924, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
so sort of mid '30s he probably would have had them. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
-Was he an Aston Villa or...? -Yes, he was an Aston Villa supporter. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
He was born quite close to the ground in Aston, in Birmingham. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
Yeah, he was a very avid football fan and sportsman, actually. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
-These were made in 1935-ish, so he would have been about ten? -Yes. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
An ideal age to be playing with your...football team. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
Well, as I say, rare, but what you've got is two teams here. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
They were only sold, normally, one team per box, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
so he obviously got two boxes and amalgamated them into the team. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
And remarkably, not only does it have the goal posts | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
and the corner posts and the referees and the linesmen, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
but the rarest thing, and the thing that always goes missing, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
-is the football! -Yeah. -And you've got two! | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:40:12 | 0:40:13 | |
So, not in the greatest condition, obviously well played with, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
but should you ever decide to sell it, today we'd be thinking about | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
a figure at auction of between... probably £1,500 and £2,000. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
Oh...yeah, that's good, yeah. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
quite shocking, really, I didn't realise they'd be that... | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
you know, that collectible. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:30 | |
Very collectible, and should you sell them, that'll get you into | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
-at least four or five Premiership games! -Yes, it would! | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
It was given to me by a very close friend as a birthday present. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
I don't know where it came from, but we were in London, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
and lived near Portobello Road, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
so it could have come from there, but I am not sure. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:57 | |
Well, there's a newspaper on the back, you showed me, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
-which has a date on it. -Yes. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
-So do you think it's that date, 1827? -I don't know. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
-Well, it's not. -It isn't. -No. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
It's known as a stumpwork picture, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
which really started in the sort of 16th, 17th century. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
And it was a way of having | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
a three-dimensional needlework picture, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
so you would have layer upon layer of felt, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
and then they would have metal thread | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
and gold thread, silver thread, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
on top of the felt. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
And it gave you this wonderful three-dimensional look about it. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
-Um, it would have been made somewhere in Britain. -Mm-hmm. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
It could have been commissioned by a very rich family - | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
it was a very expensive piece to have made - | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
to hang on their wall. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
And it would be somewhere in the region of 1650 to 1660. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
Somewhere in that region. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
It's got a background of silk satin, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
and it would have been bright, bright colours. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
Fantastic colours. And while we're talking about colour, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
I don't know whether you've noticed that right, right down here, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
there's the remains of some very bright red in the background. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
The red tends to go first, then the blue. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
-You can see a little bit of blue here. -Yes. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
But what I love about it is the whole story, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
and every time you look at it... | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
-There's something else. -There's something else. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
I mean, there's two people fishing here, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
and it's totally out of proportion with a fountain there, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
and there's a baby here... | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
-Anyway, the whole thing is so exciting. -Oh! | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
Do you know what the story is? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
Well, luckily, I found out from a very dear friend I rang | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
who is a vicar, and I talked her through the scene, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
and she recognised it, and she told me what it was. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
It's Elijah, who's given up, he's lain down under the tree, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:58 | |
and the angel comes along and says, "You can't die, you get up now," | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
and this widow, who's the widow of Sychar, with her child, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
comes along to give him sustenance. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
Gives him a loaf of bread - there are two loaves in there - | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
-and oil. And you see that chain round her neck? -Yes. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:18 | |
She's got oil on her back. And from then on, having given Elijah | 0:43:18 | 0:43:23 | |
the oil and the bread, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
-she has oil and bread for the rest of her life. -Ah! | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
-Isn't that wonderful? -It is indeed. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
So it's just the most fantastic scene. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
I would happily say it's worth £3,000. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
Even in that condition. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
Gosh, yeah. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:43 | |
Well, well, well. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
It's not often in English art that you get something so pure, crisp, | 0:43:47 | 0:43:52 | |
abstract, modernist as this. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
And I'm right in thinking the name Ben Nicholson is attached? | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
It is indeed, yes. It's the Ben Nicholson wall | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
that was at Sutton Place, and still is, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
and my father constructed it. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
So this is the maquette, then, a preparatory work, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
for a very famous piece of sculpture, in a garden, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:16 | |
-and I think you've got a photograph of it here. -I have. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
-You've been to visit it. -We have, yes. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
Erected in the early 1980s, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
and by one of the most important international abstract painters, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
and sculptors, at work in England in the 20th century, Ben Nicholson. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
-Mm-hmm. -So how did your father get involved? | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
Well, my father came from Ireland with the family in 1957, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
he'd worked at Harland and Wolff shipyard as a marble mason, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
came to work at Whitehead & Sons in London, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
and the company was commissioned to make this sculpture for... | 0:44:48 | 0:44:54 | |
To create this big piece of garden sculpture. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
It's stunningly beautiful, and absolutely enormous. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
I mean, it must be 15 feet high and about 30 or 40 feet wide. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
Now, there's an image beneath it of a man at work. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
-Yep, that's my dad. -So this is him working on the actual original? | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
That's him actually working on the original sculpture, yes. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
And they used diamond-toothed saws, I believe, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
because that's the only thing that will cut marble. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
And then we have something else here behind - what is that? | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
That's Prince Charles and Lady Diana - later Princess Diana - | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
being photographed in front of the wall. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
You can see how it relates in scale to people. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
It's really useful seeing a piece of sculpture like that. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
And they're a long way forward, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
so you can really see the size of the piece, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
because that is an awful long way back from them. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
20, 30 yards, probably. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
And amazing when you think of your father's contact | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
-with such an important 20th-century sculptor. -Yes. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
I mean, he worked with Barbara Hepworth, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
he settled in St Ives, but he went on in his art, in his sculpture, | 0:45:57 | 0:46:02 | |
in his ideas, to be a truly international modernist artist. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:07 | |
-Yes. -You know, someone of whom Britain is inordinately proud | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
-in the 20th century. -Indeed, yes. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
And my father said that there were three maquettes made, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
one of which Nicholson family had, | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
one of which the Whitehead & Son family had, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
-and my father was given this one. -So this is one of the three. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
-It was. -Well, what a wonderful thing to own! | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
-Fantastic. -So we ought to think about a valuation for it. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:33 | |
Well, the value's immaterial to me, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
-but... -Well, unfortunately, it's boringly material to us! | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
Er, so, I can see this being worth | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
-£20,000 to £30,000. -Good God. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
You will need to dust very carefully! | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:46:50 | 0:46:51 | |
Good Lord. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
Amazed. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:55 | |
This is all looking terribly dull. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
Er, what do you think it's made of? | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
Er, I was hoping it would be silver, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
but I have a feeling it could be tin? | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
Well, I can give you some good news - it is silver! | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
-Oh, fabulous, great. -Do you know where it was made? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
-No, I don't. No, not... -OK, well. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
I have an idea it could be Germany or Russia, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
-but I'm not... -Second time right. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
It's Russian. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
And this is a particular trompe l'oeil effect | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
that you get being produced in Russia, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
this wonderful sort of folded cloth. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
But as it is now, because it's covered in all this powder, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
we're not really seeing properly the magnificence of it. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:45 | |
Now, what I want to do is actually just go over it with a cloth. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:50 | |
OK, now the effect actually of doing this should be quite dramatic. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:56 | |
And can you see... | 0:48:00 | 0:48:01 | |
..what's happening here? | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
That we've got the silver with all this wonderful detail | 0:48:05 | 0:48:10 | |
-against the gilding on that side? -Oh, wow, lovely. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
And so we've got this wonderful contrast | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
-between the gold and the silver. -Wonderful. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
Having said it's from Russia, are there any family connections? | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
My great-grandmother was German, | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
but she was, well, we think she was born in Russia, in Archangel. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
So we've kind of connected the two. Er... | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
and then they moved to London, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
and this came too. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
Which is absolutely splendid. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
I mean, they are such lovely things. By the time that's clean, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
it is going to look stunning with the contrast between the two. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
This trompe l'oeil effect that they wanted to achieve. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
What would you put on it? | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
I don't know - it's a very unusual shape, | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
and with the little serviette, I wouldn't have a clue. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
-Well, it had a very specific use in Russia. -OK. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
-And that was for bread and salt. -Oh, right! | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
This is what you would serve up your bread and salt on. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
OK? | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
Now, we do have marks, as well. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
And the marks read Moscow, 1883. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
-Ah, OK! -Now, those initials, do they mean anything to you? | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
Yes, they're my grandmother's initials. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
There's a C and an M for Clara...Mormon, I think her name was. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
She was the German lady. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
Well, it's a delightful object, it really is. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
You don't see that many of them over here, | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
although there's a lot of Russian work in Britain. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
But, um, we do of course have to think about the value. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
Yeah. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
And...I would suggest today | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
it should be selling for in the region of £1,200, £1,500. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
Wow! That's lovely. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
Better than a bit of old tin! | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
That's wonderful, thank you very much. That's lovely. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
Now, I saw you with this stretcher in the queue, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
and sometimes people have to wait a while to see an expert so they | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
bring along a chair - I thought this was taking things a bit far! | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
Tell me about this stretcher. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
Er, it was purchased by me approximately 30 years ago | 0:50:15 | 0:50:20 | |
at a small military show. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:24 | |
And the person that I bought it off, he said it come from the local area, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:28 | |
and it was in someone's shed or barn or something. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
-That's all I really know about it. -And it's Second World War. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
It's a Second World War stretcher, and it's American. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
And do you ever use it as a stretcher? | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
Er, I've never actually used it, no! | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
Well, I was speaking to one of our experts, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
who said...I mean, it's quite rare that this has survived, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:50 | |
because usually the mechanism was used for wheelbarrows | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
and carts after the war. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
And the stretcher bit got thrown away. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
So it's great that you've still got it. You've never used it? | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
No, I haven't, no. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
Well, it's valued at about £100, um... | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
I thought we might give it a go. What do you think? | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
I'd be willing to give it a go, yes! | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
Now, I'll need a volunteer. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
Shall we use the more strapping chap? Do you mind, madam? | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
Do you want to grab that end? Let's see if it still works. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
-It's Frank, isn't it? -It's Frank, yes. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
-Do you want to get on? -I will! | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
Come on, let's risk it for a biscuit! | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
Right. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
That way? Come on then! Oof! | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
-Well, it works! -It does! | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
So, what a beautiful scent bottle, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
and it's glowing in the sunshine here. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
And it's glowing because it's gold and hardstone. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
But tell me about it with you. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
I inherited it from my cousin, whose miniature I have here, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:53 | |
and it was he who left me this beautiful scent bottle. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
And it is utterly beautiful, and it's quite surprising, I think, | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
what a luxurious object it is. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
Because the conjunction of precious metalwork and stone | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
is something incredibly ancient | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
and was a status symbol since the Renaissance. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
And here we have mid-19th-century lapidary work | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
and gold-mounted scent bottle, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
um, but the message is the same, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
that it's for a rather high-status person, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
somebody who could actually afford an object of great luxury like this | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
in the 19th century. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
And of course it is a conventional scent bottle here, | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
but it's made by a firm called Sampson Mordan, | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
who were enormously sophisticated engineers in this sort of work. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
And there's a loaded, um, stopper here, with a spring, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
so that when you close it down, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
inside, it makes a perfect seal, so the scent can't come out. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
And the other end, it has the vinaigrette. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
Yes, it does. And let's have a look. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
And a vinaigrette isn't something everybody encounters | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
on a daily basis, but it's another way of taking scent. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
And there would be a little sponge underneath this grille, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
which would be loaded with rose water, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
and you'd use it when there was sort of unpleasant effluvia | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
around and about, which there certainly was in the 19th century, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
and perhaps if you were in a coach or something like that | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
and you wanted to smell that to mask an unpleasant associated odour, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
well, that's great. But the point about it is | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
its function is almost secondary | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
to the fact that it is a luxurious object. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
It's carved, hollowed from stone. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
-It's nice to hold. -Very tactile, isn't it? | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
but it is jasper, it's called bloodstone, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
and it's called bloodstone because it's green flecked with red. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
And there are collectors of scent bottles, thematic collectors, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
and they would be jolly pleased to find that. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
And there are people interested in goldsmith work and lapidary work, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
so I'm thinking somewhere in the region of £2,000, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
-possibly even £3,000. -Mm-hmm. Yeah. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
-But you don't care, do you? -It's very nice! | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
-No, it's nice to know! Yes, yes. -I don't care that much. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
But I think you care even less than me! | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
It's absolutely brilliant to meet you, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
-and you brought wonderful things, and thank you very much. -Thank you! | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
-It's an electric lamp. -Yes. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
-Did you convert it? -No. -Well, that's a relief! | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
-But who did convert it? Do we know? -Um, I'm not quite sure. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
It belonged to my great-aunt. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
I think they bought it in an auction | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
and probably bought it as a lamp. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
At what time, do we know? | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
-Er, 1950s. -Right. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
-So it was probably old when it was bought. -Yes. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
But how old is it, that's the question we need to ask. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
Because it is an Italian majolica drug jar. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
But is it an old one or is it a newer one? | 0:54:30 | 0:54:35 | |
I think it was certainly old when they bought it, | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
because actually it started life as an oil lamp. If you look in, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
-here is the well... -Oh, yes! -..where the oil would have been kept. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
So from a drug jar, it's been made into an oil lamp, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:50 | |
and this here actually comes off | 0:54:50 | 0:54:51 | |
and that's where the oil burner would have been, | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
and the flue and the shade. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
And then probably in the 1920s they've converted it, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
you get conversion kits, for the newfangled electricity. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
Which you still use today. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
-Right. -But was it new when it was bought? That's the question. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:10 | |
I suppose we should look at it first. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
It's got the splendid decoration round the front, "Mostarda F", | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
which I think stands for "mostarda di frutta," | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
which is a North Italian fruit conserve with mustard extract in it. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
And it's great that we've got all these sort of quinces | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
and figs and different fruits which probably were the fruits | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
that were inside this jar And it was obviously, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
we call it a drug jar, but it's a storage jar in effect. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
-And obviously it was quite a lot of jam! -Mmm, yeah! | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
Um, have you ever looked into its date, or...? | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
Um... Well, my husband and I were at the Victoria & Albert last year, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
and we saw a jar exactly the same size | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
which looked as though it could have been made by the same potter. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
That was, I think, a 15th-century Italian drug jar. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:59 | |
15th century. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
Well... | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
as a 19th-century jar, it's £400 to £600. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:09 | |
Very nice. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
But it's not. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
It's Venetian. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
-It's about 1520. -Wow! | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
And it's worth £10,000. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:20 | |
GASPS AND LAUGHTER | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
So I think you should stop using it as a lamp! | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
-Yes - it's got a hole in! -It has, a hole and a couple of cracks, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
but it is, I'll say it again, Venetian, 1520. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
-£10,000. -Wow! -I think you should stop using it as a lamp, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
beautiful as it is! | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
Well, thank you very much, that's amazing! | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
-I hope it's a pleasant surprise. -It is! | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
I almost feel I should cut the flex off and stop you now! | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
LAUGHTER Oh, bother! What am I going to use? | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
We're so grateful to everyone who's come to see us at Kirby Hall today. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
But I don't know what one of the owners would have made of it | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
when he was here. Sir Christopher Hatton, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
Chancellor to Queen Elizabeth I. When he bought the house, | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
it overlooked the medieval village nearby, and he was so horrified | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
that he had to look at the riff-raff through his window | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
that he had the village razed to the ground, and all that's left of it | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
are sort of bumps and lumps in the grass. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
So heaven knows what he would have made of us here today! | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
We've enjoyed it, though. From Kirby Hall in Northamptonshire, bye-bye. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 |