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If you want history and beauty together in one knockout package, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
you've come to the right place. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
We've returned to Chenies Manor in Buckinghamshire, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
and dating from 1460, it's thought to be | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
the oldest brick-built domestic dwelling in the country. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
And some of the original paintwork still remains. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
400 years ago, the Earl of Bedford, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
who owned this lovely home, was worried that the plague | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
would be carried on prevailing winds from nearby London, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
so when a new extension was added, they came up with a solution. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
And this is it. This wall, which faced the capital, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
had no windows and no doors, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
so not even the slightest breeze could pass through. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
Any that you can see are much more recent additions, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
and this design is just as radical on the inside, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
where its architecture influenced domestic dwellings | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
for centuries to come. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Bedrooms for a start. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
It's the norm nowadays, but for 16th-century England, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
this is probably a first - | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
for members of the household to have their own private space, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
their own individual sleeping quarters. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
Each bed chamber had a fireplace, another domestic first, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
and that wouldn't have been possible without the prominent buttresses | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
on the exterior wall which incorporated chimney stacks. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
But most surprising of all is this - an en suite privy. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Now it might look pretty basic, but in the 16th century, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
this was the ultimate luxury. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
I imagine the wind must have whistled up there! | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
It was known as "the divine drop". | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
Who'd have thought such a barrier to prevent the plague | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
would lead to such mod cons | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
and the kind of domestic design we live with today? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
There are no barriers to today's visitors, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
who are arriving in force, I'm glad to say. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
Let's go to our specialists, already hard at work in the garden. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
And if you'd like more information about the programme, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
please log on to our website at... | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
Well, how appropriate! | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
We just happen to be in one of the most beautiful gardens in England | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
on a stunningly beautiful day, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
and you bring along a very lean, dare I say, flower seller. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:07 | |
I need to know how long this flower seller | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
has been sharing a life with your good self. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Well, she shared a life with my mother first of all, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
and we had a flower shop in Hereford, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
so she's always been much appreciated. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
And do you know where your parents purchased her, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
or were they given it? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:27 | |
They got married in 1931 and bought several ornaments after that, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
so probably about 1932, but I don't know exactly what date it is. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
OK, and if she was to speak to me, she would speak to me in Italiano. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
-Yes. -Because you and I know that there's a mark on the base | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
-telling us that this lady hails from Turin. -Yeah. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-And she was made by the famous Lenci factory. -Yes. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
And the lady responsible for this very stylish lady is Konig Scavini. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:58 | |
Oh, right. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
And let's just have a look at the gown, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
let's give her a quick twirl... | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
-because that is one very chic flower seller. -Yes. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
-So look at the way the hair's been bobbed as well. -Yeah. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
Because that is a period dress. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
You can see where the actual skirt itself there is just mid-calf, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:18 | |
and so from a fashion point of view, they're very exciting. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
-And we'll just have a quick look at the mark, shall we? -Yes. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
It just says, "Lenci, made in Italy, Torino" | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
and that's the original sort of paper label. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
It's always a bonus from a collector's point of view. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
So when it comes to value, I am pretty certain that | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
if I wanted to take this girl home, I would go into a gallery | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
and have to write a cheque for about | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
£5,000. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Wow. Wow! | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
Our daughter, Michelle, is going to be a happy bunny. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
-Can I give you some advice? -Yes. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
Keep her waiting as long as you can. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
OK, yes. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
-Well, it's really important to look at pictures... -Yes. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
..and so many people don't. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
And at first glance, you may think this was a Scandinavian picture. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
-I did. -Oh, you did, did you? | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
I did. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
Well, if you look very closely, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
you'll see the signature here says "IF Choultse" | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
and that is Ivan Fedorovich Choultse | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
-and he was a Russian painter. -Oh. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
-And he was a Russian painter who was born in 1874. -Yeah. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
And he died in 1939. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
-So he lived through this amazing period of Russian history. -Yes. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
He studied in St Petersburg | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
where all good Russian artists studied, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
and he became well-known for painting very gentle, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
charming landscapes with great attention to the sort of colouring. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:53 | |
-Yes. -So they're usually very bright, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
and he was particularly good at doing sunsets and sunrises, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
and I think we have a lovely example here, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
because what we have is a beautiful landscape | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
-with the sun on this mountain top. -Yes. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
And I think what is so interesting now about Russian art | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
is that for the first time - I would say in the last ten years, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
in fact - Russian art has gone from strength to strength. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
The oligarchs and the Russian people are making so much money | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
-and they are beginning to buy back their own art. -Ah. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
-And that's what's so exciting about it. -Yes, absolutely. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
So it's interesting because Choultse fled the revolution, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
we assume in 1917/18, and came to live in France, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
because he exhibited quite a lot in France in 1920 | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
and then we know he went to Norway and we know he went to Finland | 0:06:43 | 0:06:49 | |
and he had various one-man shows around Europe. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
-OK. -So this could be a Scandinavian view. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
Did you inherit this, or...? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
Yes, it was... My father used to buy, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
and there were things that were just in the house. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
You didn't really take much notice that they were there. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Mm. Your father bought it because he liked the subject | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
rather than the fact he thought, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
"Ooh I'm interested in Russian art," I guess. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
Oh, no, he bought things because he liked the subject. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Best reason. Because it's by this great Russian artist Choultse, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
I would say it's worth between | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
£20,000 and £30,000. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
-Does that give you a surprise? -OK. Yes, it does. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
But it just illustrates how passionate the Russians are | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
about buying art and also, you know, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
how strong this market is at the moment. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
I'm not often lost for words but I am now. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
Thank you very much. I had no idea. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
So what you've brought in is probably the most famous | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
piece of British glass that I know about, it really is. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
This is all-singing, all-dancing Whitefriars. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
So what's the link to you? | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
Well, we came here today | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
because it would have been my mum's birthday. She recently passed away. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
She's had this vase wrapped up | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
and she's always, always wanted to come to somewhere | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
like the Antiques Roadshow and get it valued, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
and because it was her birthday today, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
my family and I decided we're going to bring it along here. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
-Sweet! -And do what she would have, would have liked us to do, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
and what she would have liked to have done. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
God, I've got goose bumps. Look, I'm breaking out in 'em. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
-So have I, so have I. -Yes, wonderful. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
So she's looking down and smiling, I hope. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
But the real connection is my dad was a Whitefriars glass blower. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
-Yes! -And he worked at Whitefriars from the day he left school, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
which was around about 14, to the day the factory closed in 1980 | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
in Wealdstone and so that's roughly 30-odd years he worked there. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
He went from being a lowly glass helper, or whatever, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
-up to being a glass blower. -Master blower. -A master blower, he was. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
And he was very proud of that, and we were very proud of him. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
Yeah, well, he's not around any more, but this is. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
No, so, it's been wrapped up really for a long time | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
and we thought, "Let's get it out." Show it the daylight, so to speak. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
-Well, give that daylight and what does it do? -It shines. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
I mean, I think that's visible from outer space, isn't it? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
I mean, that is the most... What's interesting about these is, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
is that they were almost universally bought by women. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
These were not blokey pieces, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
they were bought by women in the late '60s - the date of this | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
is what, '66, '67 - and they were bought by women who were liberated | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
and saying, "I'm going to put my pin money into buying something for me." | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
You can see sort of why it's called "the banjo" | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
but it's not very banjo-esque. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
So how are you going to sort this? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
-You say you've got this entire tribe. -Oh, I don't know. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Who's going to get it? It's the best bit. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Well, that's always what my mum said. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
You know, "You can't divide it into three pieces." | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
So that was why she always wanted to get it valued. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
But I don't know, we're kind of quite attached to Whitefriars. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
We've got a lot of Whitefriars bits and bobs at home as well. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
But I think these are just pulsating pieces that just work, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
all designed by Geoffrey Baxter, and they still work, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
and not a lot of stuff does, from that kind of date. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
So look, the current market price of these is | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
700-800 quid, that's what it would cost. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
And it's sentimental to us. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Mum and Dad, isn't it? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
It's my mum and dad, yeah. Means a lot. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:17 | |
This is a magnificent clock. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
It's all brass-mounted. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
You've got these fabulous brass caryatids down the side. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
You've got this wonderful | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
brass dial, fully engraved, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
and then you've got these spectacular large enamel dials | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
with the subsidiaries at the top. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
The subsidiaries are the extra dials, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
so you have your music selection, your strike/silent | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
and this signature at the top. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
So where does it come into your life? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
I bought this clock in 1993 | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
when I was working for the British Council in Beijing. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
And one of the girls I worked with happened to mention one day | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
that her grandmother had a musical box and was quite keen to sell it. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
I eventually went out to the west of Beijing | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
and, if you can imagine, a very simple dwelling. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
All she had in this single dwelling house was a little coke stove | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
in the corner, and a piece of furniture which looked as if | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
it had been made out of orange boxes or something. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
And sitting on top of this piece of furniture was this clock | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
with a cloth over the top. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
And I took the cloth off, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
and I just couldn't believe what I was looking at, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
bearing in mind the environment it was in. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
And I thought, well, it's not a musical box. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
The old lady had only ever pulled the strings to play the music. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
She'd never used it as a clock. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
And after a bit of negotiation, we eventually managed to buy it. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
Well, I think that's a fantastic story | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
and the tune is very, very pretty. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
CLOCK CHIMING | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Can I ask you, what did you pay for it? | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
I think it was probably around about £1,000. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
You might think actually finding a clock | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
-like this in China is quite unusual. -Yeah. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
You know, considering it's from 1760. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
The maker, Thomas Best of London, is recorded working | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
around the sort of the mid to the late 18th century, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
so that's during the reign of George III. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
Also at that period, the Emperor was actually a huge collector of clocks. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
You can go to the palace - the Forbidden City - | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
and you can see an outstanding collection of clocks, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
-one of the best in the world. -Right. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
Traders at that time were desperate to trade with China, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
so they would actually give clocks as gifts to the Emperor | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
-and to dignitaries to buy favours. -Right. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
And so the Chinese really loved the English clocks. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
They had their own clockmakers copy similar English style, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
but what they particularly liked were musical clocks | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
and big, grand, ornate clocks, and this would have been | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
-magnificent and the Chinese now are still buying them. -Really? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
They are very interested in English clocks, particularly musical clocks, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
and you paid the equivalent of £1,000 for it. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
If it was in an auction, I think a sensible estimate | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
would be in the order of | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
-£15,000 to £20,000. -Really? | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
My... | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
Well. That was a good buy, then. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
When the Antiques Roadshow visited Cleethorpes back in 1991, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
our ceramics expert, Eric Knowles, spotted a jardiniere - | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
essentially a posh flowerpot - | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
that belonged to Terry Norrish, and had been in his family since 1946. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
Well, it was bought in a job lot by my father | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
straight after the war with two vases | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
and a couple of pieces of furniture. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
And that's all I can tell you, it just came into the family from that. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
It's by the firm of Christofle, a top French metalworkers | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
and of course they were a top maker of silverware, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
right through into this century. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Date-wise, here is the date - 1874. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
And by the 1860s-'70s, the influence of Japanese art | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
was creeping into Western art, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
and the French were one of the first to pick up on it, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
and so this type of object is regarded as being Japonaise. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
It's a magnificent object, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
it's the best I've ever seen on the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
Welcome back to Terry Norrish and Eric Knowles. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Now the reason your jardiniere's not here is because you've sold it. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
But before we get to that, tell me what happened after Cleethorpes, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
all the... What? 20-odd years ago now. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Well, we were a lot more careful when we took it home, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
because we brought it in the back of a pick-up, and so taking it home, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
we did bring some bags to sort of make sure it didn't roll about. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
And it didn't always get treated with the respect it deserved, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
-did it, Terry? -Erm, no. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
I didn't know until we put it up for sale, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
that the kids had used it as a goalpost an odd time or two. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-No! -They played pool around it. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
Now why did you think it was so special? Tell us a bit about it. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
Well, this is the actual auction catalogue, prior to being sold. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
First of all, you've got this decoration | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
on the actual jardiniere itself, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
which is a sort of champleve technique. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
That's where the actual metal is cut away and the enamels are laid in. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
On top of that, you've got these wonderful Manchurian cranes, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
so you've got a sense of movement, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
and then you get these magnificent handles which, you know, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
look as though they've almost got a Samurai connection. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Plus, it had a label on it saying it had been shown by Christofle | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
at the 1874 exhibition, gave it such a remarkable pedigree. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
And there's even a photograph of it in situ, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
at the actual exhibition, so it just brings it alive. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
Well, let's have a look at what you valued it at. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
I mean, have you given thought to the value yourself? Have you got it insured? | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Um... Well, various friends have looked at it | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
and they've all sort of said Oriental and hazard guesses from about £2,000. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
Right. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
Well, if... At auction, I would probably see the bidding going - | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
starting at 2,000, going to 3,000 | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
4,000, 5,000, 6,000, 7,000 - | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
at £7,000 - 8,000, 9,000. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
£10,000, at £10,000, at £10,000, I think, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
it's fair to say, you just might see it go. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
I don't know if I'm more astonished by the valuation | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
or how much you've both changed. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
-What about that moustache? -Yeah. -My goodness me! | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
So you held on to it then for 20 years. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
-You decided to sell it. -Yeah. -What? A couple of years ago now? | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
-Yeah, yes. -What did it sell for? | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
£560,000. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
-ALL GASP -5...! 560,000?! | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
-Yeah. -Crikey! -Yeah. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
So what happened in the interim? | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
Well, you valued it... I mean, did you spectacularly under-value it? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
-Or has the market completely changed? -Well, it is so different, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
but it's a very good question to ask, that, isn't it? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Er... But the truth of the matter is, way back then, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
there was not the same demand for Japonaise examples. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
So it's a market that has literally sort of sprung out of nowhere. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
It's fair to say that my estimate - | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
it may seem a little bit on the low side - | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
however, the auction estimate | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
-was something like £60,000 to £80,000 a couple of years ago. -Yeah. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
So if you think that it made half a million pounds | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
more than the auction estimate... | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Because the right buyer just happened to turn up. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
-The right under-bidder was there with the right buyer. -Right. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
So, um, nobody could possibly offer that today | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
and give you a cast-iron guarantee | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
-that you would get the same sort of money now. -No. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Wow, well, just as well you held on to it for 20-odd years. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
-Well, absolutely. -I'd say that was incredibly prescient of you. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
You obviously had the crystal ball, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
and that's a life-changing sum of money. What have you done with it? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
Um, give a lot of it away actually. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
-Did you? -Yeah, to family. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
We've had some very good holidays, hence the sun tan. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
A nice car... There's a little bit left. We're enjoying it very much. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
Well, I'm sure you're glad you came along to that Roadshow | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
-all those years back... -I certainly am. -..in 1991. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
It made Eric's day, he's been talking about it ever since, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
and how lovely to see you again. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
Well, thank you very much for asking. It's lovely. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Normally, when you see a cheeseboard, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
it's some lovely, bucolic landscape, Constable-esque | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
-or beautiful flora and fauna. -Yeah. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
You've got a cheeseboard of the building of the M1. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
I have used it several times at parties, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
which makes quite a good conversational piece and, um... | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
Gosh, they must be riveting, those dinner parties(!) | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
Chatting about the M1. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:31 | |
-You never see it that empty these days, do you? -No. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Here's a pair of two-handled vases that I'm sure get noticed | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
-when people come into your home. -Absolutely. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
You've got a hint of psychedelia, almost. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
It's the sort of perfect present - had he been alive - | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
-for Jimi Hendrix. -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
I was excited, but it's not my thing and I didn't want to unpack it | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
and potentially damage its value, so... | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
OK, well, let's have a look, what is it? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Trains. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
I mean, it's never... Are you telling me it's never been undone? | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
Er, as far as they know, it's never been unpacked. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
I had a quick look in the engine one because that's been opened. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
-OK, let's have a look. -But I just didn't want to disturb it. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-I mean, it's like Christmas, isn't it? -It's unbelievable. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Ah, it's got all the original packing too. Wow, fantastic. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
-So is the owner here? -Owner's here. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
And, I mean, we've just got to look at it in closer detail. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
I mean, I don't want to do it here but we can get a table | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
-and put some things out. -Exactly. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
But, you know, to have them untouched. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
-Brilliant, I'm so excited. -So exciting. Brilliant. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Well, I think this is the prettiest little girl | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
that I've seen for a long time. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
What do you think? | 0:20:46 | 0:20:47 | |
-She is pretty, isn't she? -Yeah. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
Did you go out and buy this? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
No, my grandma gave it to me. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
Oh, right, yeah. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:56 | |
Why did she choose you to have this pretty picture? | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
Um, because it looks quite like me. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
I think it looks almost exactly like you, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
-except the hair's a bit different. -Yeah. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
-Yeah. I like the way her dress matches her eyes as well. -Yeah. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
-Did you notice that? -Yeah. -And then in the background, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
-the leaves are sort of greeny-blue, aren't they? -Yeah. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
They go with it too. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
Really nice. How old do you think she is? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Um, nine or ten. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:18 | |
-Nine or ten, younger than you. You're 11, aren't you? -Yeah. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Yeah. Was it Grandpa's picture? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Yeah, it was my grandad's, yeah. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
Was it one of his favourites? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
Yeah, it was... Yeah, it was his favourite. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
-Yeah, and I think also that she's quite a poor girl, isn't she? -Yeah. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
-Don't you think? -Yeah. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Because she's not wearing a very expensive dress, by the looks of it. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
-Do you think she might have been the sort of gardener's daughter or something? -Yeah. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Yeah, anyway it's by a woman artist called Helen Allingham | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
and she apparently, by all accounts, was an extremely nice woman. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Her husband was called William Allingham and he was a poet, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
and this is about 150 years ago, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
and they lived together in Chelsea, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
where they knew lots of other artists, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
and they were a very fashionable set. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Usually, she painted pictures that were much bigger | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
and they had cottages with pretty, little roses going up them, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
a few children, some ducks and very nice roofs. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
She always painted really nice roofs. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
But her little portraits of children | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
are the nicest things you'll ever see. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
They're so sympathetic. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
I've got to talk about money. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
RUPERT LAUGHS | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
That's my job, you know, I've got to tell you how much it's worth. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Have a few guesses, come on. What do you think? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Um, 100? | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
-100, as much as that? -Yeah. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
RUPERT INHALES DEEPLY | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
No, I think we'll... I think we'll go with 2,000. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
WOMAN GASPS | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
-£2,000. -What? SHE CHUCKLES | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
-That's a lot, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
And, in fact, I might say that it's worth £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
-Whoa! -Yeah, it could be because everyone's going to love that. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
Everyone does love that. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
Such a pretty thing. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
-You're going to treasure it for ever though, aren't you? -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
This is the most extraordinary collection, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
in the most extraordinary condition. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
Now, I would say that you are much too young to have had this yourself. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
-Ah, yes. -So where, where did it come from? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Well, it belonged to the husband of my godmother. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
-OK. -And it was put together...ooh, between the two world wars. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
It was packed away when they got married, and, in fact, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
that was in 1928 and there it stayed, so it was in a box for 70 years. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:34 | |
-It's a bit like Sleeping Beauty. -Mm! | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
Did you awake it with a kiss when you opened the box? | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
Er, with some surprise, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
but I didn't kiss it. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:41 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Well, opening this box | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
was a bit like getting into Sleeping Beauty's castle | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
because you felt that nothing had been touched. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
I mean, I felt slightly in awe of even undoing the packaging | 0:23:52 | 0:23:59 | |
-because the tissue paper has never been unwrapped. -No. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
But what this box tells us | 0:24:03 | 0:24:04 | |
-is really a history of the British toy train industry. -Yeah. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
Because you've got great names, you've got Hornby, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
you've got Bassett-Lowke, you've got Leeds - the top three, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
really, of the locomotive and rolling stock makers. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:21 | |
Before Hornby, there was a company called Bassett-Lowke, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
and Bassett-Lowke set up his toy train company, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
really looking at the success of the big German companies, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
particularly Marklin and Carrette and Bing, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
that were so successfully exporting into the UK. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
But he looked at that and he said, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
"Hmm, perhaps I can do a bit of that." | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
So, cleverly, he got those three big makers to start making things for... | 0:24:45 | 0:24:51 | |
particularly for Bassett-Lowke, which he then retailed. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
And we've got one of those locomotives here which, um, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
I don't even... Well, I am going to take it out, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
but I do feel that I'm the first person to have handled this train | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
for... Well, decades and decades and decades. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
-Well, yes. -I feel incredibly privileged, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
so here we have a precursor locomotive, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
a 4-4-0, with its...tender here, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:20 | |
and when I say it is new, mint condition, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
you know, that's often used by auctioneers to describe something | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
-that's pretty good. -Mm. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:30 | |
-But actually this is completely mint condition. -It is, isn't it? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
I've never seen anything like... | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
It's as if it's come straight off Gamages' toy shelf. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Quite extraordinary. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
You can imagine, after the First World War, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
-there was a certain anti-German feeling... -Mm. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
..and that really was the open door for Hornby - for Frank Hornby - | 0:25:47 | 0:25:54 | |
to push against, to create his own range of British-made locomotives. | 0:25:54 | 0:26:01 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
Frank Hornby, everybody knows, he started Meccano, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
that was his start in the toy business | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
and in 1920, he began to make toy trains, and again, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
we've got a very early Hornby train here. Lovely box - look at this. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
Mm, that's right. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
I mean, sort of fake leather box | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
with this lovely embossed writing on it. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
I mean, as a kid, can you imagine getting that and then the excitement | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
of lifting the lid and seeing that? I mean, it's just fabulous. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:36 | |
It's a clockwork loco, obviously, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
and it's got the ML Ltd, Meccano Limited, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:44 | |
on the front there. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
It has to be from those first years in the 1920s - 1921, 1922 perhaps, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
so right at the start of Frank Hornby's reign | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
as the king of British toy trains. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:00 | |
When it comes to value, obviously, I can see these, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
and I'm calculating what these might be. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
I have glimpsed, without unpacking, I've glimpsed | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
what the other boxes contain. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
And I wouldn't hesitate to say that it would fetch, as a collection... | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
-..£10,000. -Would it? Mm! | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
And, I mean, I may be a tad conservative on that. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
Mm! | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
That's a lot of money. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:28 | |
You know, the Chinese call jade the stone of heaven. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
How have you come by these things? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
Well, I was in Hong Kong in the RAF in the '50s | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
and as we came to leave, after two and half years there, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
we had some spare cash | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
and so we decided to invest them in some Chinese jade | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
and so we bought these three pieces | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
-just before we left Hong Kong in 1958. -So 1958. Wow, what's that? | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
-56 years ago? -I guess. Yes. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
The monkey together with the peach | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
-is a symbol in Chinese for longevity. -Right. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
-Oh, well... -You've had them 56 years. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
That's right, yes. I'm no spring chicken now! | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
This one is a wonderful combination of wrapped lotus leaves | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
and there's a little flower, lotus flower on the side, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
and, of course, lotuses grow up through thick, oozy, black mud | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
-and out comes a perfect white and pink flower. -Ah. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
So they represent purity, and so you see | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
the goddess Guanyin sitting on a lotus throne, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
you see carvings of Buddha on a lotus throne. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
This third one here, the shape is taken actually from the Tang dynasty, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
which was 618 to 907 AD, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
so back in the classical period of Chinese history, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
and the shape is supposed to represent a mallow flower. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
Right. This one, we're told, probably would be used | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
to go to the temple and make a libation to the gods. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
I think you're quite right with this one. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
-It should be... It's a libation cup. -Mm. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
These two, actually, I think, are objects off a scholar's table. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
They're water pots for washing brushes. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
Right, right. Not to hold the ink? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
-Not to hold the ink. The ink is a solid block. -Of course. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
And you grind it up but you need to add water in order to make the ink, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
in order to practise your calligraphy, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
so they're wonderful scholar's objects. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
I think it's a very nice choice of things to bring back from Hong Kong. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
Yes, well, we like them very much and my daughter says, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
"If you leave me anything, Dad, leave me these three pieces." | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
Oh, fantastic. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:43 | |
-One thing we didn't talk about is the date of them. -Yes. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Um... Dating jade is never an easy thing to do, but it's based on | 0:29:47 | 0:29:52 | |
the type of stone that's used and also on the style of the carving. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
The quality of the carving of all of these is good. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
The type of stone used suggests that these date from | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
some time at the end of the 18th century or just... | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
Or into the middle of the 19th century, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
so they're late Qianlong period or early Jiaqing. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Did they cost much then? | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
-Um, I think it was £20. -£20? -Mm. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
Well, when it comes to the value, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:20 | |
I think this one here - the libation cup - | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
would be 2,000. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
The peach and the monkey, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:27 | |
4,000. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:28 | |
This one - because of the colour of the stone - I think probably | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
£8,000. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Good heavens! | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
Well, that's a lot more than I was expecting, I must say. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Collectively, round about £14,000. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
My word! | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
So here we have an album of costume sketches, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
and the album is for a very well-known designer, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
-William Ivor Beddoes. -Yes. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
I see they're inscribed here, to, "Dear Gwen." | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
That was his mother, who, um, was really interested in Red Shoes | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
because she used to be a ballet dancer, so he put all these together | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
in a book and gave it to her for her birthday in 1952. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
And what, what's Gwen's relation to yourself? | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
-My mother-in-law. -She was your mother-in-law. -Mm. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
OK, well, let's say a little bit about the artist. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
He's a very interesting character. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
-He was what you might call a Renaissance man. -Yes. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
He was completely self-taught. He was a poet, a designer, an artist. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:34 | |
-A self-taught musician. -Yes. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
I believe he was a drummer in a lot of the silent films. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
Yes. And then my father-in-law, who was a sound man at Shepperton, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:46 | |
got him a job at Shepperton and this is how he ended up doing all this. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
The Red Shoes, that iconic film of 1948 with Moira Shearer, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
-where... This is his most famous film, I understand? -Yes. | 0:31:55 | 0:32:00 | |
And these are his original sketches. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
-Yes. -For the film. Do you have a favourite? | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
I think he's my favourite. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
That's... Obviously, The Red Shoes | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
was loosely based on a Hans Christian Andersen tale about the... | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
-That's right. -..ballet dancer who saw the red shoes in a shop window, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
-tried them on. -Yeah. -And then basically she couldn't stop dancing, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
she danced herself to death. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
-He went on to make other films, obviously. -Yes. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
Another major one was Tales Of Hoffman in the early 1950s. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
Yes, and then he did the Space Odyssey and... | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
Exactly, you know, his career spanned decades. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
I think he worked right up until the 1970s on films like Star Wars. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
Yes, he did Star Wars, yes. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
So would you be surprised to know that one watercolour design | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
from the Red Shoes sold at auction just a few years ago? | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
Oh, did it? | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
It did. They rarely... There's only two that have ever come up for sale. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
-And it was far more detailed than this. -Yes. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
However, it sold for £1,800. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
My goodness, yes. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:02 | |
I think, given that these are not quite as detailed as that, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
but there are so many of them, you know, they've got to be worth | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
£200 to £400 each. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
You know, we're probably looking at a collective value of | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
£4,000 to £5,000 on the album. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
Well, we're never going to get rid of it, so... | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
We'll keep it in the family, definitely. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
We see quite a few letters written during the First World War | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
to be opened in the event of the writer's death, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
but when I saw this, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:47 | |
I thought it was the most moving letter I had ever seen. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:52 | |
-This was written to your grandmother. -Yes. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
I can't actually get through it, so I'm going to ask you to read it out. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
I don't know if I can. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
OK. Well, it was sent from the First Hampshire Regiment | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
on October the 4th, 1916. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
And he says, "My darling Vera, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
"by this you will know that I have been killed. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
"I meant to ask you to be engaged to me, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
"but when I was on leave, I was too frightened to say anything. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
"I loved you very, very much and would have done anything for you. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
"However, we may meet in another life. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
"With best love, ever your own loving boy, Harry." | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
-I know. -I've read it so many times. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Oh, my goodness, it's just... | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
And also it just talks of... | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
..a love lost, hopes dashed, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
a life that could have been lived and never was. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
Yes, and, of course, if he had lived, I wouldn't be here, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
because she wouldn't have married someone else afterwards. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
How did you know about this letter? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
Did your grandmother talk to you about it? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
I had a suitcase of old memorabilia from my grandmother's after she died, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
and when I went through it, with all the other rather mundane things, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
there was this letter. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
I remembered seeing a photograph and I was sure it said "Harry" | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
but the album, I have no longer got it, it's with another relative, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
and so I e-mailed them and said, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
"I'm sure there's a picture, 1916, of someone called Harry." | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
And there was, and she e-mailed that and then she e-mailed someone, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
another cousin in Australia, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
who said, "I don't believe it. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
"On Gran's deathbed, she gave me this locket | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
"and she said it was of someone who she was engaged to." | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
-Well, she wasn't quite engaged... -He was too frightened to ask. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
But he wanted to be, and she got a picture of that locket, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
which she sent to me, and this was him, and this was her. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
And how old was he when he died? Did you manage to work that out? | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
-20. -20. -Yes. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
And what might have been and the fact that she had this locket | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
on her death bed with his photograph in. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
-Yes, because she'd harboured that desire for ever. -All her life. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
All her life, yes, and she was 91 or 92 when she died. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
Well, she obviously loved him just as much | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
-if she kept this locket all her life. -Yes. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
This is one of my great aunts, Elizabeth Leather, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
who, when she separated from her husband, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
had to find a means of existence | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
and she joined the American White Star Line | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
and served on many of their ships, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
the Olympic, the Britannic and so on and so forth, but more interestingly, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
she was on the Titanic on its maiden voyage. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
She survived. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:27 | |
She escaped in Boat 16, was picked up by the Carpathia | 0:36:27 | 0:36:33 | |
and returned with 21 of the 23 female crew, two of whom were lost. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:41 | |
I suppose the female crew were all first-class stewardesses. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
Yes, they were first-class stewardesses. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
-So that made it easier for them to escape. -Yes. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
And I gather she rowed for hours. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
She rowed for two hours... | 0:36:52 | 0:36:53 | |
She insisted on rowing in the boat for two hours. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
-And she was in her 50s by this point. -She was 51. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
And they were not short oars. It's not like a skiff on the Thames. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
No. Well, she said that she wanted to do her bit, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
and also to try and keep warm. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
Well, I think that's very sensible, yes, yes. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
She wouldn't have been particularly well-to-do, I mean, she wouldn't... | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
-No. -She had to go out and work. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
Particularly after the Titanic, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
because the White Star Line cancelled everybody's employment... | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
-Yes. -..the following day. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
She didn't have a family. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
When she died in 1937, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
she bequeathed the two items to my mother. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
I've been struggling for about ten years now to find out a bit more | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
about the medal, which is in memory of Titanic. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
And we've got a little locket here which has got her initials, EML. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
That's right, she was wearing that on the night of the disaster. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
The interesting thing is that this memorial medal is nine-carat gold. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:53 | |
It is indeed, with a pearl in the middle. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
And if I just turn it round, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
-we can see there that it's made by Vaughtons of Birmingham. -Yes. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
And it's inscribed, "April 15th, 1912", | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
so it's been produced by somebody | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
to give to these people. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
I can't help thinking that she would never have commissioned it. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
She wouldn't have been able to commission it, or purchase it. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
Obviously, the first thing I did was to go back to Vaughtons, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
who produced it, and find out, if I could, how many they made | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
and who it was made for, and by, and so on. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
And tragically, they informed me that just before the Second World War, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
they'd run out of storage space for their office material | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
and they'd destroyed everything. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
Gosh. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:37 | |
One hopes that perhaps it was made by a grateful passenger | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
who gave them to the staff who were survivors as a memento, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:48 | |
-and as a thank you. -It's a possibility. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
Well, it would be nice to think that. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
Titanic is the most extraordinary sort of maritime story, really. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:58 | |
The locket, with the evidence that it was on board the Titanic | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
on that night, it's going to be worth several thousand pounds. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
-Oh! -The memorial pendant... They have turned up, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
-but we know whose this one was and that always makes a difference. -Yes. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
It's worth about 2,000, £2,500. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
So, in all, there's about | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
-£4,000 or £5,000 worth. -Mm. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
Amazing. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
This is the finest small English mantle clock that I've ever seen | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
on the Roadshow. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
Good Lord. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
It's an exceptional thing | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
and it must have fairly exceptional provenance, so how did you get it? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
Well, it was evidently given by Queen Victoria | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
to a lady-in-waiting, and when she was a very old lady, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
she gave it to my next-door neighbour, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
who happened to be a deputy director of the Bank of Scotland, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
and it came down, through his family, to me. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
Right, well, it makes absolute sense. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
This is just the sort of thing that the Queen would have ordered | 0:40:01 | 0:40:07 | |
-and given as presents to those very close to her. -Good Lord. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
The thing is signed by Charles Frodsham | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
-with their Strand address... -Mm-hm. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
..and I'm very much hoping | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
that it will be fully signed on the back plate. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
-Do you ever open this? -No. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
So you don't really look at it too frequently? | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
Er, no. SHE LAUGHS | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
OK. Well, there it is, the full signature, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
Arnold... Charles Frodsham, 84 Strand | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
and then the number down there. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:37 | |
Right. Well, it's always been referred to as "the Frodsham clock". | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
Right, well, Frodsham in 1843 took over the business premises | 0:40:41 | 0:40:48 | |
and the good name of John Roger Arnold, and for 15 years, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
the company was referred to as Arnold and Frodsham. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
And then Charles Frodsham started really on his own, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
but only made the finest things. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
And this is so exceptional because of the size, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
and just look at the quality of it. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
It's sensational. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
The dial is as perfect as you'd get. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
-Gosh. -Beautifully engraved, signed on that lovely annular chapter ring, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
and the hands are cut-out spade hands. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
The finest English clock work. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
Now, I'm here to tell you the price. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
You must have a thing like this insured. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
Roughly what's it insured for? | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
I don't think it is. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
-Seriously? -No, it lives in a cupboard. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
RICHARD LAUGHS | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
I honestly don't know what to say. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
Um... All I can tell you is that the last one of these... | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
Yes. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
..which had a number just two removed in sequence from yours - | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
-and we're talking round about 1845 here... -Right. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
..not a lot either side of that - | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
was sold at auction | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
for £42,000. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
You are joking?! | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
Now I'm not saying that yours is going to do quite that, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
but it's going to do | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
at least 30,000 to 35,000. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:10 | |
Good grief! | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
With that Royal provenance, the finest, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
by one of the finest makers of the early Victorian era. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
Good Lord! | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
So, please, get it insured. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
But much more important than getting insured, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
get it out of that cupboard and let it be seen! | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
Thank you very much. I'm totally astounded. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
Oh, I think I need a gin. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
We're just coming to the end of our day here at Chenies Manor | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
and I thought I'd slip into something comfortable. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
Japanese silk wedding kimono, circa 1980s, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
brought along by one of our visitors. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
Look at this. Look at the sleeves. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
The front... | 0:42:53 | 0:42:54 | |
The back... | 0:42:57 | 0:42:58 | |
And look at the gold interior... | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
Fabulous. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:06 | |
From Antiques Roadshow, until next time, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
sayonara! | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 |