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Welcome to the citadel famed for its springs. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
You could read that motto in Latin, couldn't you? | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
This was once the most popular spa town in the land. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
With so many guests paying for expensive treatment, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
they needed somewhere to be entertained, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
and in 1903 they got it - | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
The Kursaal. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Welcome back to Harrogate, in North Yorkshire. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Kursaal, originally a German word, means "Cure Hall", | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
and in Edwardian England it became a byword for healthy amusements. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
And this is where they happened - | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
in this grand hall designed by Robert Beale and Frank Matcham, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
who also created one of our former venues, Blackpool Tower Ballroom. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Rather less flamboyant, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
but still gilded within an inch of its life, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
this reflects the refinement demanded by its well-heeled patrons. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
And the entertainment never stopped. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
From 7:45 in the morning till late at night, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
there were operatic productions, orchestras, tea dances, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
and stars of stage and screen. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Now known as the Royal Hall, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
over the years it's hosted many star-filled nights | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
with bands such as the Beatles and Duke Ellington, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
various figures like Ernest Shackleton, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
and diverse political opinion was represented here, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
with meetings held by the suffragettes | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
and Oswald Mosley and his Blackshirts... | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
..and if you were lucky enough to be able to afford a box seat, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
there was one rather wonderful design feature. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
So that nothing could prevent you from mingling freely | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
with the guests up and down the promenade here | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
and then just popping in to see the entertainment | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
down there on the floor, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
you could literally lift up this entire wall. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
The Royal Hall underwent a major renovation in 2008 | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
and is now as splendid as it ever was. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
Owned by Harrogate Council, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:47 | |
it's been home to lots of crowd-pleasers. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Today our own stars are seated in these elegant niches. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
Let's see how they're entertaining our visitors from Harrogate. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
So we're in a very, very ornate hall, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
and we look at this, which is a very, very ornate clock. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
-Yes, indeed. Yes. -Now, before I tell you about it, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
can you enlighten me as to who Mr Johnson was? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
PC John Johnson retired from the West Auckland police force in 1902. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:14 | |
This was a memento given to him by the local community | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
of St Helen's in West Auckland. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
It was passed to my grandfather, passed to my father, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
and now it's in my possession. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
Well, it was a very generous present, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
and that is when it would have been made - | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
-it was new in 1902. -Right. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
-It's French. -Yep. -Have you looked at the back? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Do you know if there's any maker's marks or anything? | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
It's Japy Freres - if that's the correct pronunciation? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Japy Freres, yes, the Japy brothers, produced... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Very, very prolific makers of movements in Paris. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
Very prolific, along with various other factory makers. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
And another... | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Let me just show you... | 0:03:48 | 0:03:49 | |
the Japy stamp, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
which is just hidden behind the pendulum. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
And the giveaway that it is a 20th-century clock | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
-is the stamp "made in France". -OK. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
That is something that came in at around that date. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
But what I love about this is you've got the dial centre, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
you've got the bezel, you've got the columns, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
you've got the mercury pendulum, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
you've got everything done in this wonderful multicoloured enamel. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
-Right. -This is typical of the French champleve enamel. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
You get a bit of metal | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
and, if you like, you scoop it out | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
-and then you put in the enamel and fire it. -Right. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Now, at the moment... | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
the Chinese particularly like enamel. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
So these sort of clocks | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
have done very, very well - A, in the saleroom, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
-and, B, retail. -OK. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
And this is about as good as it gets, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
because we would normally expect to see these | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
in a normal square-section case with glass. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
This is a cut above the average. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
It would walk £3,000 at auction, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
no problem at all. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
And retail... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
some people would be asking closer to 6,000. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
-Good grief. -So don't drop it on the way home. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
Well, yeah! Thank you. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:03 | |
We absolutely love it in the family, we really do, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
because it's so clever, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
and it shows that the craftsman was so imaginative | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
to be able to create it like this. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
-I mean, it's a family piece? You just bought it...? -It is, it is. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
My husband's grandfather bought it in the '60s. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
He had an interest in antiques | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
and, I think, spotted this and thought, actually, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
I'll take another look at that and see how interesting it is. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
My first reaction is, is it Salvador Dali? | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -No, I think it's the work | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
of someone very creative who likes a challenge. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
What is extraordinary about it | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
is that it hasn't warped since it was made. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
No, which means it presumably was made out of warped wood. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
-Yes. -Which is why it's so special. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Let's imagine some little carpenter in some very provincial place, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
possibly up here in Harrogate, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
-in about -1800. Oh, really? | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
The late 18th, early... Turn of the century, 1800. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
Right, OK. Gosh, how interesting. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
Found this wood and thought to himself, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
well, I can't afford a table for home. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
-Maybe. -Remember how poor these people were, carpenters. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
-Yes, of course. -Basic carpenter. -Yes, yes. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
You know, window-maker, door-maker at best, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
not a veneerer anything like that. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
-Yes. -In a country place. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:08 | |
-I suspect he just had this wood. -Really? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
And thought, well, I CAN do something with that - | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
-I'm not going to throw it away or burn it. -No, no. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
It's a great spirit, isn't it? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:15 | |
Do something with everything you've got. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-It's just so clever. -It is. -I mean, to make it like this. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
-I just want to have a look. -Yep. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
-Where do we start? Well, we start with the top. -Yes. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
This wonderful undulation here, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:25 | |
I mean, that alone, you know, as a tray, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
you would have a queue at an antique shop trying to buy it. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
And then we go to the legs. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:32 | |
I mean, at first, when I first saw it, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
I thought the legs were all the same and carefully cut, but they're not. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
No, they're all different. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
They're all square, but they're all actually different. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
The handles are later, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:43 | |
but the handles are probably 18th-century handles. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
I suspect, again, at the time, he couldn't afford handles, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
they'd have been quite expensive handles. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Probably made in Birmingham, even in the 18th century. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
And it would have probably, at the very best, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
had a lock with a little key. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
-Yep. -And that's been lost, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
and very typically and very commonly, had handles put on it. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
But that's part of its charm. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:01 | |
But the whole thing... You know. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
And when you look at it, you've got the detail here, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
the pegs coming through here at the front, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
the easiest ones to see. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
If that had warped since it was made, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
it would have all cracked open. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
-It would have cracked. -But it hasn't. It's just... | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
-It's the cleverest thing. -Beautiful, isn't it? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
And I'd like to go and challenge someone today | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
to go and make a table like this now. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
To actually try and think of it like that, it's just... | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
It's wonderful. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
But, you know, it's an impossible thing to value | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
because, you know, in theory it's a piece of 18th-century junk. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
-No! No, it's not junk. -Sorry, sorry. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
But in reality, it's the most wonderful table. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
It's got to be, in a shop... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
-I'd pay anything for it. -Ooh! -But £1,250? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Really? Gosh. Well, yes. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
We love it, and we love it for the craftsmanship | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
and the artistry and the imagination. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
Now, you've brought in this magnificent model | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
of a 1/48 scale HMS Royal William. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Very important ship at the end of 18th century, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
and a ship of the line, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
so, a very serious ship and a very serious model. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Did you make it? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:07 | |
No, my father made it. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
He researched the ship, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
went down on his bicycle from Yorkshire | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
to go to the Greenwich Maritime Museum | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
to see which ship would test his skills. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
So he chose this ship. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
It's made out of a lime tree which was felled and the hull... | 0:08:26 | 0:08:32 | |
That was used for the main bit. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
He also used ivory piano keys for the window frames | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
and, when he ran out of those, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
he got some bone from a butcher | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
and cut that into the windows. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
How many...? I mean, it must have been thousands of hours | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
but how many years did it take? | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Well, he started it in the 1950s, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
and it took him probably about 30 years to do it. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
And his last thing that he wanted to do | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
was actually to do the rigging | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
but, unfortunately, he passed away | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
before he could realise that ambition. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
So, a lifetime's work but, to appreciate it, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-you just have to look at the detailing. -Yes. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Wonderful stern-carving. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
You walk down here, it's got companion ways. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
All these cannons, all cast by him? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
Yes, everything. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
And belaying pins, belaying rails, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
capstan, even the ship's bell. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
Yes, that's brass. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:28 | |
And then this magnificent figurehead of the double horse. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
So, you know, I can understand it was a lifetime's work. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
Yes, and he didn't have a lathe to do it on. It was... | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
All made by hand. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
-Because here, also, is a figure of Wellington. -Yes. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
-So he would have made this by hand? -Yes. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
He used lead for that, which he heated up on the fire. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
What a wonderful story. Was he a professional engineer, or...? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
He was a fitter in a woollen mill. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
So this was his passion. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
It was, yes. Yes. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-Now, he spent 30 years making this. -Yes. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
I'm sure it's the last thing in the world you'd ever want to sell. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
-Exactly. -Because it's really a testament to him, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
and he was your dad, you know. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
But if you had to commission somebody to build this, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
you would be talking about tens of thousands of pounds. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
At auction, we would be talking a figure between £4,000 and £6,000. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
Thank you. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
What's your involvement with this poster? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
Well, I went straight from modelling | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
more or less into the world of film. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
I was cast in about four or five of these Carry On films in my youth. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
So you are a Carry On girl? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
-You bet! -THEY LAUGH | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
And you were in Carry On... Up The Khyber. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
I was in Carry On... Up The Khyber. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
I have to say, there is a lady lounging across this cannon who... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
-It could be me. -It could be you. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
Well, of course, looking at these posters, | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
they have become as iconic as the films themselves. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
-Yes. -And I think there's this huge amount of nostalgia, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
which is, of course, something you were part of. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
You were working with all these great names of British comedy. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
And the posters now seems to be a bit of a nostalgia trip | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
for anybody who has such a passion for these. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
And what you've got here is a UK one-sheet. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Now, when any film was issued, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
there were various sizes and formats of movie poster | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
that would be used in different parts of the theatre. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
But this one, in portrait, is what we call a one-sheet. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-The artist of this was a chap called Renato Fratini. -Mm. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
And he was known for doing these really fantastic | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
sort of comic characterisations of the whole team. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
There was a lovely story attached to this, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
because it was gifted to me by the late Jeremy Lloyd, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
that wrote all those marvellous, marvellous films, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
including 'Allo 'Allo, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
and that makes it even more special. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
So you had real happy times of working on these films? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Oh, I had a marvellous time, yes. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
It was like being on holiday for six weeks | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
each time we shot one of the films, absolutely. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-Carry On... Up The Khyber is one of the popular ones. -Yes. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
And a one-sheet Carry On... Up The Khyber today | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
-is going to be worth around £300. -Aw. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
But, for me - someone who loves Carry Ons - | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
well, you know what, you can keep all your Bond girls, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
I've met a Carry On girl! | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
Well, this is a wonderful collection of Russian playing cards. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
And each of the cards, which are not only numbered, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
but they have little maps in the centre. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
These cards actually represent | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
82 provinces of the Russian Empire | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
which had been existing, I think, it's 1856. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
After the Crimean War, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
but it's the great period of Russian imperialism. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
Buffalo Bill brought the image | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
of what people thought the Wild West was meant to look like, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
and did all these tours | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
all around America, all around Europe. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
So you've had it hanging in your pub? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
In one pub for 20 years, and the second pub for 10. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
I just love it. And when I had the pub, it was fine. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
Now I don't have the pubs any more - | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
I wouldn't say it's irrelevant, but it's under the bed. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
And so how much did you pay for it? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
-£25. -OK. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
This is one of Moscow, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
with what people wear in Moscow here. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
And, as you say, on the back, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
the major cities. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
Yes, the major cities. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Which are listed down here. I can't see the Kremlin. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
That's because the Kremlin... | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
At this time, the Kremlin had been made from wood. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
-Yes. -Before the fire, you remember? -Oh, I see. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
I think that's the Kremlin, you see? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
They are incredibly rare. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
I've only ever seen them individually before, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
but to see such a large collection... | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
You've got somewhere between £3,000 and £4,000. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Wow. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:55 | |
They're not that uncommon, to find a signed photograph. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
It's nice that it's signed with his real name, Cody, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
and then Buffalo Bill. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
At auction, easily £1,000. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Very good. Very nice. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Well, this is like the beguiling of Eve, isn't it? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Here is a serpent in front of us. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
Now, what's the story of the serpent? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Erm, it belongs to my mother. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:22 | |
She was left it in a will about 55 years ago. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
-Yes. -And she wore it as a young lady. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-Yes. -Went dancing in it and it fell off, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
so that's why it's been left in its box in the safe. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
Yes. Well, it's in remarkably good condition for a serpent, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
and it's almost hissing with emblematic meaning, this. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
The snake biting its tail | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
is a very ancient emblem of eternity, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
it's called the ouroboros - the eternally renewing circle. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
And the fact it's gold, it's incorruptible. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
And these are all metaphors for love. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
And the colour blue - something borrowed, something blue - | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
says the same thing. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Combine it with diamonds, it's forever love. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
Very conveniently, yours is dated 1845, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
but it may be more significant, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
because I've gone out of my way to say that it's an emblem of love, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
but it's more than that, actually. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
It's probably a very sophisticated piece of mourning jewellery. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
So, mourning is love beyond the grave, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
and here, very tragically, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
-we see four little windows with human hair in the back. -Yes. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
And every one has an initial in front of it | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
with the same initial at the end | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
and I don't think there can be a shadow of doubt | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
that these are references to infant mortality. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
-Really? -Which was absolutely rife in 1845. -Mm. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
It's all about art, all about symbolism. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
And, with a tinge of tragedy, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
we'll probably never, ever know who these people are. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
-No. -And so it's jewellery saying everything | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
and saying nothing at the same time. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
It's awe-inspiring, really. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
So how would they get the little windows in there? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
I think possibly the jewellers were incredibly competent at that time | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
-and they would saw out with a file and make a little window. -Right. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
What you couldn't do is go near the enamel, because that would break it. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
-Yes. -It's completely articulated, to allow it onto a woman's wrist | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
and it's in superb condition. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
And also, significantly, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
there's some very substantial diamonds in the head of the snake. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
And this points towards a very high-status family, really, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
who could afford such a thing - | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
and I'm sure your mother values that enormously | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
and everybody else would value it enormously, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
and so I think it's worth £8,000 to £10,000. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
Really? As much as that? Ooh! Goodness. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
Well, that's a lot. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
-It has beguiled us all, not just you. -Yes! | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
Absolutely. But not with mammon, but with sentiment, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
and that's really marvellous. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
Some First World War cartridges. What can you tell me about them? | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Well, they're not cartridges, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
they're bullet punchers. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-They're bullet punchers? -Yes. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
OK, so when we open them, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
inside we have... | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
a little fork... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
..in there... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
..A knife. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
And not only a knife, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
we also have... | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
a little spoon. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
So tell me, what's the history of these? | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
My grandfather made musical instruments | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
before the First World War. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:21 | |
And then during the war he was in munitions, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
he was based at Armley in Leeds, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
so he didn't fight. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
And because he made musical instruments, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
my guess is that he was using his skills | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
in order to hand-file these, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
so he made them himself. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
These are actually Russian shells | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
and they were made... | 0:17:40 | 0:17:41 | |
Basically, the Russians were unable to pack them themselves, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
so they were actually filled in the UK and in France | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
for the Russian army. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
And, obviously, as he worked in the munitions factory, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
he would just have obviously took a few of them | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
and just fashioned a little cutlery out of them. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
Commonly we see things that were made in the trenches | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
in the First World War by the soldiers | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
out of the big shells, you know, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
engraved with various scenes and things. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
But I must admit I've never seen anything | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
so precisely engineered as these, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
and they're absolutely gorgeous. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
So presumably you feel a really strong connection with these | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
as they were made by your grandfather? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Yeah, yes. You just feel that, erm... | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Well, you can see the skill in them | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
and you've got something physical, even though he's no longer around, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
you've got somebody who has made something themselves, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
and they'll stay in the family. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-Yes, so he's left a legacy, basically. -Yes. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
He was obviously incredibly skilled. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
I think they're gorgeous, I love them. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
If they were to come up for auction, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
you'd be looking at probably somewhere in the region | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
of £300 to £400 for them. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
That's lovely, thank you. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Do you know how old this is? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
-Quite old. -How do you know that? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Well, it looks old, doesn't it? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Yeah, but, you know... | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
It's been in the family for about 60 years, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
but I should think it's older than that. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
Yeah. Have you tried to find out? | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
I have and I've forgotten. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
It was a long time ago! | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
It's about 17th century, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
something like that? | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
It has got some clues on it. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
-If we turn it upside down... -Yes. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
-We've got these marks on the base here. -Yeah. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
Which, if you look them up, it'll say Da Ming, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
-which means "great Ming", as in Ming Dynasty. -Yeah. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Jiajing, which is the name of the Emperor, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
and Nian Zhi, which means "made in". | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
So, made in the Jiajing Reign of the great Ming Dynasty. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
Right. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
I love this type of vase. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
-Of course, what you need to know is when was that chap on the... -Yes. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
..throne. He reigned from 1522 to 1566. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
-Wow, really? -So, actually, it wasn't 17th-century, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
it's 16th century. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
The time of Henry VIII. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
But is it a real one? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
Well, we've got these wonderful Ming-style scrolls | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
and they're a bit blurred. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
Everything about it, looking closely, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
is what you would expect to find | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
on a genuine Ming vase. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
I think it's a lovely thing, I love this sort of porcelain, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
it's the first bits of blue-and-white | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
which made their way into Europe. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
-Yeah. -The Medicis had porcelain of this reign in their collections, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
and so did some of the kings and princes of Europe. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
So, a wonderful thing to see. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
So, you've got a Ming vase. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
-You want to know what it's worth? -Yes, I do. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
-That's why you came, isn't it? -Yes! | 0:20:28 | 0:20:29 | |
Not altogether, no. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
Well, you have got a Ming vase, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
it's perfectly genuine, it's a lovely piece. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
-Here's the problem. -No. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
We've got a crack running round the centre. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
It's been made in sections, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
and that is where the two bits were joined together. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
So, at the luting line, there's a crack. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
Because of that, we're looking at £800. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
Not £4,000. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
-Oh! -I'm sorry. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
Oh! | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
Never mind, I love it anyway. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
No-one's ever offered me a pair of stockings | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
on the Roadshow before today, so this is a first. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
So, this is your marvellous | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
stocking- and sock-making contraption. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
Show me how it works, first of all. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
Well, it's deceptively simple once it's threaded up. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
It has 80 latch needles, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
they were invented in 1849, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
and it takes the yarn and creates loops and knits. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
So even today knitting machines use this principle. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
So each stitch is laid | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
as it goes round. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
Into the open mouth of the hook. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
It's ingeniously simple, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-but at the same time fiendishly complicated, isn't it? -It is, yes. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
And how long does it take to run up a sock or a stocking, then? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
In the hands of an expert - and I'm not an expert - | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
someone who can close the heel | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
and turn the heel, | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
probably five or ten minutes to make each sock. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
And this dates from about, what, 1910, something like that? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Yes, around 1910. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
They are quite collectable, particularly in the States, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
where they have a conference every year for sock-knitters. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
That is a conference I'd like to attend! | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
This is a sampler, it happens to be a rather nice one. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
An early one, 18th-century, I'm sure, by its style. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Silk on linen, but it employs a technique | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
that I've rarely seen used before in samplers. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
But you know a bit about its history, don't you? | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Yes, this particular sampler | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
was sewn by my great-great-grandmother... | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
-Yes. -Marion Black. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
She was born in 1776 | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
and, I believe, she may have stitched this | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
when she was about 16 years old. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
That's interesting, because the word "sampler" | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
comes from the French "essamplaire", | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
which means to copy or to imitate, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
and young girls stitched these things | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
to show their proficiency in needlework | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
to make them ready to run households. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
So I think, if she was born in '76, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
this is properly done no later than 1786. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
-Right. -And, erm... | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
what's unusual about this | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
is that it's got raised and cut silk work | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
to emulate a mown lawn, here in the front there. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
And I've never seen that before, and I think that's really remarkable, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
and it gives it a three-dimensional effect. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
And the way it's arranged is really charming. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
The colours are so fresh, you know, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
the blue of the roof and the red of the door, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
and the berries and flowers on the tree there. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
But it has a reasonable value, for all those reasons. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
And something like this, from this date and this fresh | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
and this condition, would be in the region | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
of £1,000 to £1,300, £1,400. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Well, that's very nice. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
I shall continue to treasure it. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
It's as charming as it gets. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
-I mean, it's proper folk art, isn't it? -It is, it is. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
It's a real tribute to the maker and the skills of little girls and... | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
-Exactly. -..what young girls could be expected to do. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Exactly. A little girl like this age could have done something like this. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
-They were as young as five and six. -Yes. -How old are you? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
You're eight. So you could easily have done this | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
if you lived back in Georgian times. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
That's quite a thought. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
Well, the world is full of love and sentiment, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
and this was really true during the Victorian period as well, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
which is where this necklace dates from. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
How has it ended up in your collection? | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
My father-in-law gave it to me. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:31 | |
What a lovely gift. He obviously adored you. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
-I hope so. -Yeah, definitely, definitely. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
-It's something that you wear a lot? -A lot, all the time. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
Good, that's brilliant. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:40 | |
Well, it's a Victorian necklace, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
round about the 1840s, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
when jewellery really was the height of fashion | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
and this whole idea of interpreting love messages through jewellery | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
was extremely important as well. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
And with the hearts, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
that's an obvious symbol of sentiment. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
But what we also have on these lovely little hearts | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
are various colours. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
So we've got turquoise, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
which is seen as the true colour of the forget-me-not flower, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
and then you can associate that | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
with the hidden message of "don't forget me", | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
which is absolutely gorgeous. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:11 | |
The necklace is gold | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
and it's what we call a snake link, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
and when you move it, it slithers along like a little snake. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
That lovely sort of tactile feel to the Victorian jewellery | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
which really sums it up, it's fantastic. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
And what's that stone? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
The pink one there is either a pink sapphire or a tourmaline, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
it's a little bit difficult to tell in the heavy setting of the mount. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
Now, as far as value's concerned, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
collectors love this sort of look. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
At auction, somebody would pay in excess of £2,000 for this. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Right. Thank you very much. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
My pleasure. Keep on wearing it. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
-I will. -Good. -Don't you worry. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Our impostor this week is based around our national pastime - | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
drinking tea, of course. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:05 | |
John Axford, you set us this challenge, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
you are our ceramics specialist - and an Orientalist, as well. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
So we have four tea bowls, I must call them. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
-That's correct. -They're not tea cups, they don't have handles. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
Cups have handles, yes. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
Three of which are 18th-century Chinese... | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
-Yes. -And the impostor is? | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
English. So they all date from round about 1750. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
1740, 1750. But one is an English one. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
Now, the thing about drinking tea at that time | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
was it was a very refined activity, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
-because tea was so expensive and so precious. -Yes. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
You've got to remember, in 1740, the time of Hogarth, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
both porcelain and tea were extremely expensive. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
I mean, tea was so expensive that it was locked away in caddies. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
It's not until you get to the 19th century, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
you start getting these great big teapots | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
and great big teacups, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
and people start sloshing it around a bit. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
So, four tea bowls, three Chinese - which is the English one? | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
Here are some hints from John. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
This porcelain tea bowl was made for an Irishman called Nicholas Langton, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
and depicts his coat of arms. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
But would he have commissioned a Chinese maker to produce this, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
or would he have relied on a English maker? | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
This tea bowl dates from around 1750 | 0:27:17 | 0:27:18 | |
and features a beautifully enamelled image of lovers in a garden. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
Is it the work of a Chinese craftsman with years of experience, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
or has an English painter managed to replicate the technique? | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Could this tea bowl, from around 1755, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
represent an Englishman's view of a Chinese scene, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
complete with a water buffalo? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
Or is it a genuine piece | 0:27:40 | 0:27:41 | |
that was made in China and shipped over | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
for tea-drinking aficionados? | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
This elegant tea bowl | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
depicting a European gentleman | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
dates from around 1740. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:52 | |
But is it the work of a Chinese or an English potter? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
The history of porcelain is a fascinating one, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
and my understanding of Chinese porcelain in particular | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
is that what made it so special | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
is its fineness and its transparency. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
So is that what I should be looking for? | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
It's certainly one of the things. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Some Chinese porcelain is extremely fine, if it's very thinly potted. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Other times it can be more thickly potted | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
and, if it's fired at a lower temperature, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
it will be less translucent. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
So it is one of the features, but it doesn't necessarily help you. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
18th-century Chinese porcelain, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
compared with 18th-century English porcelains, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
tends to be a more glassy material. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
It's harder, it's known as hard-paste porcelain, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
and when it breaks, you get a sort of colloidal fracture, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
like glass breaks. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
There was great demand, wasn't there, for porcelain in Britain? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
In the first half of the 18th century, it was a craze | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
and, of course, tea drinking was so fashionable | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
Chinese tea wares poured into the country and, of course, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
factories set up in England, in London, in Worcester, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
in Derby and in Staffordshire, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
to compete with these markets. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
It's a very tricky one, because as far as I was concerned, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
transparency was the name of the game - | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
you've now told me now it's not necessarily | 0:29:02 | 0:29:03 | |
about their transparency. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
Folks, any ideas? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:06 | |
-You've had a look. -Second from the left for me. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
You think this is the impostor? | 0:29:09 | 0:29:10 | |
You think that's the impostor? | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
You think THAT'S the impostor? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
-Yes. -Well, you are no help at all. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
And at the back there, you think it's this one? | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
Oh, brilliant. Well, that's a whole heap of help. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
I mean, I had a quick look and I held them up to the light. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
This is beautifully fine, I think, this one. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
The crosshatching and the design on here | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
is just so... | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
beautifully done. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
I wonder if this is English. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
This is the plainest. But compared... | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
Oh, I'm tying myself up in knots here. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
-I'm going to go... Who thought it was this one? -Me. -Right. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
Loving you, madam. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:50 | |
I'm going for this one being the impostor, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
because it's less transparent and it has less detail on it. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
Therefore, I think that is the English impostor. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
You're entirely wrong. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:01 | |
ALL: Aw! | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
The impostor, in this case... | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
-is this one. -Oh! | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
But when you hold this up, it's so fine and delicate. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
It's lighter than all the others. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:14 | |
This was made at the Worcester factory in about 1755, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
only a few years after the factory opened, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
and it is trying to look like Chinese porcelain | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
and it's doing a really very, very good job. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
It's doing an excellent job. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
So, which of these is the most valuable, John? | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
This is the most valuable piece. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
-Erm... -What, because of rarity? | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Because of rarity. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
Chinese porcelain was made for the export market | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
in very, very large numbers. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
Shiploads arrived back here. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Worcester porcelain, which is copying it, is far rarer, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
and Worcester collectors, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
particularly in the UK and in America, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
what they want is the pieces from the very earliest years | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
of the factory. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
It's worth maybe £600. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
I've got it wrong again. You were a fat lot of help! | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
Oh, you were right, were you? Oh, right, madam. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
I'm going to go have a cup of tea, I reckon. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
This reminds me so much of my childhood, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:08 | |
and I'm sure there are plenty of viewers, too, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
who will look at this lot | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
and say, yeah, I used to play with one of those. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
But there's something very, very different | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
about this collection of Corgi die-casts | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
on the table here. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
Tell me a bit about them. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:22 | |
Well, Corgi toys had... | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
Their main plant was in Swansea... | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
-Yep. -But also in Northampton. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
That factory was where we made most of the components | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
to go to the Swansea factory. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
Well, sometimes there was perhaps something wrong with them. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
There were 3,000 women putting toys together | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
and maybe they would send a message - | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
well, we can't fit the wheel on that particular model, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
have a look at it. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
Well, the idea was | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
to have that model - | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
as this one is - held together with... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
-It's been assembled... -Yes. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
But it's not been completed by spinning over these things here. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
-The rivets have not been sealed off. -The rivets have not been made. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
-And you call that spinning over? -Spinning it over, yes. -Right, OK. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
The idea was, that, well, we'd looked for the component | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
and check it for assembly. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
What was your position at the plant up in Northampton? | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
I was the general manager | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
You were the general manager? OK. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
So what you're saying to me is that all these examples | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
with elastic bands around them were basically unique reference models. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
-Absolutely. -But, also, we've got a selection here at the front | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
that have got some very unusual finishes on them. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
These are Huskies, most of these. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:30 | |
-They are. -I've never seen these with these finishes. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
When they were deciding what colour to make this, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
mainly for the American market, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
the director would say to me, "Right, I want ten in that colour, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
"I want ten in that colour, I want ten in that colour." | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
And we would just send them to him. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
-Yes. -It was always a big nuisance, really, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
-to upset a big paint plant to do ten of... -Yes. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
He said he wanted them, so we made them. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
And we put them out and he said, "No, no, no." | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
And, "Right, this is the one we're going for." | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
So, how to choose the colour for the model. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
So what you're saying is | 0:32:59 | 0:33:00 | |
that just maybe six, eight, ten of these were made? | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
-That's right. -And what happened to the ones they didn't want? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Well, I have two girls at home, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
but I had a lot of children who used to live nearby | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
and I used to take them home. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
They would never go into boxes, they would never be assembled, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
so I used to give them to local kids. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:16 | |
Do you realise what you're sitting on here? | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Yes, they're... | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
unique, aren't they? | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
-Well, they're rare. -One-offs. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
Absolutely. You've got one-offs, rare editions. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
Of course, these reference ones were one-offs, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
and actually I'm totally flummoxed, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
because I never expected to be shown such rare Corgis. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
Have you got any more? | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
I've got 200 or 300, probably, of all sorts. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
200 or 300? | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
Yes, probably, yes. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
I'm meant to surprise you, you're not meant to surprise me. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
I think there's probably - | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
and I'm just going to globally value this lot on the table for you - | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
I think there's probably around about | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
£1,500 to £2,000 worth of cars on this table. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
-Yes. -But if you've got 200-300 more... | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
-There's quite a few of them. -I can't really do the maths. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
So what you have got is something quite important. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
-Yes, they are. -And very important to collectors. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
Well, my grandchildren have got their names on many of them already. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
-THEY LAUGH -Oh, well, that's lovely. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
You've brought me in a little book | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
which is, sort of, over 350 years old | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
and it's a sort of very early guide | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
that travellers could take with them | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
to understand how to behave, what to appreciate, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
all that sort of stuff. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
It's a lovely little thing. Do you look after it? | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
-Yes, indeed. -I do. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:40 | |
-Where do you keep it? -With my other books, actually. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
-OK. -But it's all protected, obviously, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
because it's quite old. I've just treasured it. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
If we just open it up here to the title page, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
Instructions And Directions For Foreign Travel, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
-and it's written by a chap called James Howell. -OK. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
Who was born at the end of the 16th century | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
and died in the, sort of, later 17th century. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
-OK. -You've got a second edition, this is actually a second edition... | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
-Ah, OK. -It was first published in 1642. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
-OK. -And this is dated 1650. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
And Howell worked in a glass factory | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
and he did a lot of travelling, mostly throughout Europe. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
He was a great linguist, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
who wrote other books on grammar and language and things like that. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
And in this little book, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:25 | |
he's sort of trying to tell would-be travellers | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
how the best way to go about things is. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
You haven't used it? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
-No. -So how did you get it? | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
Actually it's from my father, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:35 | |
and I think it's been handed down in the family, to my father | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
and, of course, he's not with us now, so hence I've inherited it. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
-OK. -Yes, I think it's been in the family a long time. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
On this page here, this is a portrait of King Charles II. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:51 | |
-Yeah. -With his date of birth. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
29th of May, 1630. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
It was quite a risky thing. At that time, that particular time, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
the interregnum, | 0:35:58 | 0:35:59 | |
between 1649 when Charles' father King Charles I had been executed, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:05 | |
and 1651 when Cromwell defeated Charles II and then took over. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
To pin your sort of colours to the mast, as Howell is doing here, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
bigging up the monarchy, was quite a risky thing to do. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
But what I think is the loveliest bit about it | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
is the fact that he has a bit here at the end | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
when he says that when an Englishman comes back after travelling abroad, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
"When he hath observed all this, at his return home, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
"he will bless God and love England better ever after." | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
And I think that still holds true today. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
It does. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
-It's rare. -Yes. -Doesn't come up on the market very often. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
-OK. -And if it came up for sale, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
I think it would make certainly £1,000-£1,500. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
Wow. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
-Might even do more. -Really?! | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
-Yes. -It's such a tiny little book. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
-I know. It's a super little thing. -Thank you. -Yeah. -Great. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Rarely on the Antiques Roadshow do we actually feature tools, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
and I think that when you consider | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
these potentially made some of the furniture that we've featured, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
I think it's time we had some tool time. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
I think it's a good idea as well! | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
-You clearly love them. -Oh, I do. -Why? | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
To me, they represent the pinnacle of English furniture-making | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
and, without tools like this, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
we wouldn't have the Chippendales and the Hepplewhites, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
they wouldn't have been built to as good a standard | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
had these not existed at that time. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
People look at these tools that may have been their grandad's | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
and they've found in the shed, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
and they'll go in the skip or they might go to a sale room, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
but, really, they're artefacts of our history | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
of the great furniture that we've got now. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
Because they are works of art in themselves. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
You're quite young - why tools, for you? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
I actually makes saws. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
-Oh, OK. -Yeah, I actually reproduce saws from this era... | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
-Wow! -For special commissions for people. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
I use the same tools, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
the same techniques that would have been used | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
250 years ago to make these. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:12 | |
How long would it take you to make a saw like this? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
Between 25 and 30 hours, depending on the design. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
It's the quality of them, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
and you just don't get that... any more. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
You don't get something... | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
A tool which was made for a craftsman of the mid-18th century | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
which would be used throughout his life. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
This is my favourite one. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
When you see the blade on this one, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
you can see, this would have - correct me if I'm wrong - | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
this would have been out there | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
and then they've re-sharpened it over years | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
where they've actually now had to go round a little bend. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
And that to me just sums up how important these were to that person, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
how expensive they were, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
and it then creates a beautiful object in itself. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
They've got maker's marks on them - | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
have you researched the makers into the these? | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
I have, yeah, with quite some depth. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
Most of the saws that are on the table | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
actually were made in Sheffield. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
And this one in particular | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
is probably one of the early examples of a Sheffield saw. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
And the maker, John Kenyon, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
was the first Sheffield saw-maker outside of London, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
and this dates from about 1760. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
And that would make these pretty rare as tools? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
They do, especially saws of this size. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
They're very rare survivors. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
There's now sales, or auctions, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
purely of tools. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
I think on the table here | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
you've got between £3,000 and £3,500 worth of saws. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
Crikey! | 0:39:45 | 0:39:46 | |
That's quite unbelievable, yeah. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
Well, what appears to be a very harmless little watercolour | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
of a ship at sea | 0:39:55 | 0:39:56 | |
hides some deeper meanings. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
Where did you get it? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
I actually bought it online. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
I'd noticed it and was interested, like you say, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
because of the hidden... Hidden story in it. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
That was what amazed me when you pulled it out of your carrier bag. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
Because there are thousands of little cut lines | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
which allow the picture itself | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
to actually dome out | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
in a beehive form. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
In fact, we often call them beehives - | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
and underneath, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
there is a little watercolour. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:29 | |
And it's quite hard to reveal. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
You have to bring it up, and then, as you tip it, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
you can see how the paper sort of concertinas | 0:40:34 | 0:40:39 | |
in a very much a sort of a beehive way. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
And look at that. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
The kneeling slave, chained, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
with a quote from Isaiah, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
"Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away." | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
It does date to probably the 1820s | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
and, of course, it was 1833 | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
that slavery was fully abolished in Britain. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
-Would it be the sympathetic person doing this? -Yes. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Yes. People whose consciences were constantly being pricked | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
by the continuation of, obviously, an appalling trade. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
So it makes this really | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
quite an important piece. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:22 | |
And on the Roadshow we see a lot of Valentine cards | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
in this style - | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
I've never seen a slavery one, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
and neither have any of my colleagues. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
So, you paid...? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
I paid £15. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
£15. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:36 | |
That's very good. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
Well, it's worth £500-£800. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
No! Really? Oh, my goodness. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
That has totally surprised me. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
Thank you. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:48 | |
If I had a time machine, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
I'd think, let's go to Harrogate in the 1930s, or the 1920s. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
It must have been a fantastic place. Are you a Harrogate person? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
No, I've lived in the area since the 1960s but, funnily enough, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
my grandfather was offered the job as stationmaster | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
in Harrogate in the 1930s and he turned it down for Ipswich. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
We're looking at a railway poster. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
He was handling posters on a daily basis, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
but he didn't keep any. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
They had no value. They'd been stuck up, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
there was spares kept in the attic, and whenever he wanted scrap paper | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
they'd be torn up into foolscap sheets | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
and he'd use them for his homework. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
-Think of what he tore up. -Exactly. -It doesn't bear thinking about. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
-It's frightening. -Yeah. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:31 | |
The great era of the railway posters was the 1930s. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
There was a mass of railway posters about Harrogate | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
because it was such an important place. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
There were Pullman trains coming daily in and out of the town, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
there were great hotels, there was the royal baths, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
you know, it was a fantastic place at that time. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
I'm not saying it isn't now, but it was very different. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
Do you know the background to this poster? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
I don't. I've been told that it's quite significant that it should say | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
London and North Eastern Railway of England and Scotland. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Yep. Because I think it's an export one. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
We were saying to people, "Come to Harrogate". | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
We were also saying to people in Europe, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:09 | |
and in particularly North America, "Come to Britain". | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
And therefore this was for the North American market. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
And so it's focusing on Britishness, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
Englishness, the baths, the riding, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
the style, the elegance. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
There'd be no point at all in saying England and Scotland | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
if it was being used in England and Scotland. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
This would have been on display | 0:43:31 | 0:43:32 | |
in some office in Manhattan, some travel company, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
seducing people to come and find the best of Britain. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
Because it's a very rare one. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
-Yes? -I don't know that I've ever seen it, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:42 | |
and I have seen lots of Harrogate posters. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
So, it's unusual. It's an export model, which makes it more unusual. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
It's a wonderfully evocative image of where we are. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
-I would think it would be about 2,000. -Oh! | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
But we'll be keeping it, won't we? | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
-Great image. -Yes. Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
This clock has been on the Roadshow before, hasn't it, in 19...? | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
-1982. -And we've got the ticket to prove it. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
-Look at that. -Uh-huh, yes. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
My father actually made this clock | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
and he brought it in to get some advice | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
about how we could perhaps get it to work with a pendulum. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
And he showed it to Arthur Negus, who was very impressed, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
he thought it was a lot older, didn't realise my dad had made it, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
set it down on the table | 0:44:22 | 0:44:23 | |
and then accidentally knocked it off and it fell on the floor. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
-The cover came off and... -So he damaged it? -Yes, he did. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
It's been restored since, but he was very apologetic. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
-I'm sure he was! -He said, "I'm very sorry." | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
My dad said, "Well, don't worry, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:38 | |
"at least I can tell the grandchildren | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
"that Arthur Negus dropped my clock." | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
And here they are today, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
these are the grandchildren. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:45 | |
So, girls, now you can tell your grandchildren | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
-that Arthur Negus dropped this clock. -Wow. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
Look what's turned up at the same time - | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
two Austrian cold-painted bronzes. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
-Brilliant, eh? -A dachshund. -Yeah. -And a carpet-seller. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
A North African carpet-seller. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
We know who they're by, don't we? | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
I'm sure it's Bergman. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:08 | |
I wasn't expecting to see such an explosion of colour. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
It's actually an oil painting on board, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
and the signature reads Angelito Antonio, 1963. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:20 | |
I know nothing about it. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:22 | |
It's the only antique I've got, that's why I've brought it. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
OK. Well, it's a lovely little thing. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:26 | |
Very desirable, it's a dachshund, | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
people love dogs, they love dachshunds. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
This one dates from around about 1900, 1910. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
-What about yours, Ronnie? -Same. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
Exactly the same sort of date. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:36 | |
Great polychrome on this. Great cold-painting. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
The colours are still quite fresh and nice. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
Where did you get yours? | 0:45:41 | 0:45:42 | |
It was given to my husband and I when we got married, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
by my mother-in-law. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
Antonio is an artist who's still working today in the Philippines, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:53 | |
so this is a long, long, long way from home. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
Can I ask, what drew you to the picture? | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
It just looks very Picasso-esque | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
and modernist, cubist-type. I love it. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
The whole ethos of Cubism was to portray three-dimensional forms | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
using lots of facets and planes on a two-dimensional surface, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
which is exactly what Antonio has been inspired to do here. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:20 | |
Well, I'm going to go first on value, OK? | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
-OK. -How does £400 to £600 at auction grab you? | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
Wow! | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
I thought you were going to say about £40. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
No. It's a lovely little thing. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:31 | |
Certainly worth in that sort of ballpark. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
-Your turn, Ronnie. -This one's not a dog, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
but it's still a popular subject, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:37 | |
and this one is £600 to £800 in value. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
Wow. That's fantastic. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:42 | |
So, as an early work | 0:46:42 | 0:46:43 | |
by one of the Philippines' most well-known artists today, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
it's probably worth around between £1,000 to £2,000. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
Wow. I didn't think it would be that much. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
I found it when I was clearing out my late sister's house. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
This, and a few dress rings, | 0:47:01 | 0:47:02 | |
where in a bin liner in a box in the bottom of one of the drawers. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
And I just thought it was a very attractive thing, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
and I saw the maker's name, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:10 | |
was able to look at that on the internet. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
-Mm-hm. -Someone has since told me | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
that they think the hallmark is 1826... | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
So you've done a little research? | 0:47:17 | 0:47:18 | |
A little bit, yes. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
But I know very little, other than that. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
-And you haven't had it running? -No. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
No, I don't have a key to make it run. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
And I'm a bit wary of... | 0:47:26 | 0:47:27 | |
That's a good reason for not running it - "I have no key." | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
I'm a bit wary of over-handling it. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
Fair enough. Well, you're right about the name. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
It's a magic name. Parkinson & Frodsham. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
London, of course. And it's numbered 1230. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
-Yes. -Let me see if you're right about the hallmark... | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
which certainly should be | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
inside the back of the case. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
And you're absolutely right. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
The London marks with the big I of 1826. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
-Wow. -So, those two bits of research have paid off. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
Did you discover much about Parkinson & Frodsham? | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
I saw that they had been responsible for ships' chronometers. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:05 | |
-Mm-hm. -And that they supplied the ship's chronometer | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
for Darwin's Beagle expedition. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
So, do you think that this could be a pocket chronometer? | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
Have you looked inside? | 0:48:13 | 0:48:14 | |
Only to the extent that I've looked at the workings, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
but as a non-expert, that doesn't mean a great deal to me. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
Let's just flip open the top. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
There we go. And you can see there... | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
..a wonderful signature. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
And I can tell you straightaway it is a pocket chronometer. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
Wow. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
-Wow! -A very, very accurate movement indeed. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:35 | |
-I can also tell you, just looking here... -I wonder why. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
..that this spring detent, | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
that's the bit under there, is lacking, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
and your balance has got a broken pivot. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
-Right. -So I'm really glad you didn't have the key | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
and I'm really glad you didn't try to make it run. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
Now, the 24-hour dial | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
is one of the things | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
that Parkinson & Frodsham did for chronometers | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
that were sidereally rated. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
Now, sidereal time is more accurate, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
if you like, than solar time. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
I won't explain any more than that, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:13 | |
because it will go on for far too long. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
You've mentioned the Beagle. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
I would put it to you | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
that this was a chronometer of importance. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
-Oh. -And it would be well worthwhile | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
finding out from the Royal Observatory at Greenwich | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
if there are any details of this particular chronometer, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
and whether it went on expeditions, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
or whether it was used for naval use. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
-Wow. -This is a very good item. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:41 | |
That's amazing. That's incredible. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
Thank you. I had no idea. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
It's a great object. I love the dial. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
OK, there's a little bit of hairline cracking down there | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
but, fundamentally, it's got a lot of potential. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
-Wow. -At the moment, in its current condition, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
which is a little bit iffy, | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
we would be talking about £3,000 to £4,000. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
-Right. -If the detent and the balance and everything had been perfect, | 0:50:02 | 0:50:07 | |
and the dial hadn't been cracked, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
we'd be talking 6,000 to 8,000. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
-Gosh. -Now, if we can find evidence | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
that it's been on superb expeditions, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
it just goes on and on and on. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
Because it's to do with the provenance. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
But all that matters is, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:22 | |
I'm really glad you rescued it from the bag of rubbish. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
From the bin liner. Yeah, absolutely! | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
Thank you. That's wonderful. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:27 | |
I've heard about you. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
People have been telling me all day, | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
"There's a lady walking round with a really nice vase | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
"that she's wrapped really badly in a bag | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
"and telling everybody she can't stand it." | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
-Is this you? -Yes. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
Go on, then, spill the beans. What are you on about? | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
Well, it's been sitting on my bedroom windowsill | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
for about 20 years. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
-OK. -I was given it by my great-aunt. And, yeah, that's about it. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
I don't really like it! | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
Have you ever noticed any writing on it? | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
-Erm... -Just there, for instance. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
Can you read that? | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
"R Lalique, France." | 0:51:08 | 0:51:09 | |
"R Lalique, France." | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
Have you ever heard of Rene Lalique? | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
I've heard of Lalique. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
So, Rene Lalique is the greatest glass designer of the 20th century, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
and his work falls into several categories, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
but the principal ones are | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
the "R" pieces - R Lalique, which predate his death in 1945 - | 0:51:24 | 0:51:29 | |
and the "not R" - just the "Lalique" pieces - | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
which post-date his death in 1945. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
So, this is R Lalique, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
so it's a Rene piece, it's called Marguerite, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
which is a form of daisy. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
-Right. -It was designed in 1923, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
and it's mould-blown, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
by blowing in a pipe | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
into a pattern mould, | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
and then the centres of the flowers | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
are then stained, | 0:51:54 | 0:51:55 | |
in order to give it greater depth and its greater quality. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
It's not only a vase. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:00 | |
It also works as a lamp. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
You could put a clamp on here | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
and have a... | 0:52:05 | 0:52:06 | |
So, it's a lamp or a vase, depending on what you like. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
So, this old bit of rubbish | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
that has really seen better days... | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
Because somebody hasn't really been looking after it very well. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
That's probably because they don't like it. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
But to somebody who appreciates it... | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
..it would be worth | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
between £1,000 and £1,500! | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
-Oh, my gosh. -So you can chuck it back in your old bag, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
and continue treating it like a load of old filth if you like. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
But, on the other hand, you might consider it, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
at 1,500 quid, to be worth looking after, you big nitwit! | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
Wow. That's amazing. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
-That's incredible. Thank you. -You're most welcome. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
It's been a real pleasure telling you! | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
We have one of these famous cliches in the art world, which goes, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
"I met this bloke the other day | 0:52:58 | 0:52:59 | |
"who says he bought a genuine Picasso | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
"in a house-clearance sale." | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
Where did you buy this? | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
A house-clearance sale. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:08 | |
And who do you think it's by? | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
Picasso. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:12 | |
OK. So, am I right in thinking you're from Germany? | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
Yes, we are. We came especially to see you here in Harrogate. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
Well, we're deeply flattered. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
Let's see if we can help. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:22 | |
Now, how did you come across this drawing? | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
My wife and I, we don't really get the chance | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
to do the big summer holidays any more | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
because we're both very busy people. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
But we love to drive, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
so we take two, three days' drive, | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
you know, different countries. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
And we were to the south of Paris, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
and my wife spotted a large estate, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
they were looking like there were loads of people, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
loads of things going on, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
and we stopped, and we bought a beautiful 1930s Lalique plate, | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
a little oil painting | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
and a box of, I suppose, miscellaneous frames, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
and paid about 50 euro for the box. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
I suppose you can tell where this story's going. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
So the box contains... | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
-Yes. -This. -When we came home, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
I just went through the frames and everything | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
and I thought, "Hmm, this looks interesting." | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
And I thought, I'll give my husband a call and I say, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
"I've seen this painting and it's got a signature, Picasso. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
So, is it or not? I don't know. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
So the first thing is, then, you set eyes upon this, | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
this object from a box which you paid 50 euros for, | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
and you see the Picasso signature | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
and, of course, looking at the drawing itself, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
you can understand how it could be a Picasso. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
-Yes. -I mean, it's got that wonderfully spare line. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
It looks like a work of the, perhaps, 1920s. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
-They look like ballerinas, don't they? -Yes. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
And there's a lovely simplicity in the line. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
You know, he manages, whoever the artist is, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
to achieve a lot by saying very little. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
-Yes. -And that, of course, is a characteristic of Picasso. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
Have you done some research? | 0:54:51 | 0:54:52 | |
Because he is, of course, working in the mid-1920s with the ballet. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
Yes, this is a picture of him that we found, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
with his wife, arriving in Monte Carlo | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
in March 1925. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:03 | |
Following the ballet? | 0:55:03 | 0:55:04 | |
Following the Ballets Russes | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
before they went to Paris for the summer season. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
Excellent. So, we're getting Picasso into the scene of the crime, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
so he's around 1925, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
and you have a photograph to prove it. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
Now, you've got, with it, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
a photocopy from a book on Picasso drawings. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
Yes, this is a book from 1956, Balletzeichnungen. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
A friend of a friend found this for us, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
and it details all of the drawings | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
that Picasso did, in the 1920s, of ballet. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:38 | |
And lo and behold, ours appears. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
So this is... So this is rather astonishing. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
So, in that box, that magic box | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
that you've bought for 50 euros, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
you have found a drawing | 0:55:50 | 0:55:51 | |
that relates to what Picasso was doing in the mid-'20s, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
you now find a book with what appears to be your very drawing | 0:55:53 | 0:55:58 | |
illustrated as a work by Picasso. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
Yes. Obviously, it would almost be too good to be true, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
so we have another friend of a friend in Berlin, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
and we showed it to them to say, "We have this, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
"could you please give us an indication of what this might be?" | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
And they are saying it is a 1920s paper | 0:56:14 | 0:56:20 | |
with 1920s India ink. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
I mean, that's the crucial thing - that it's not a print, | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
but then it could well be an Indian ink drawing | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
of the type that he used. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
-Yes. -So... So, this is looking really good. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
I mean, you're convinced - and I have to say, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
from where I'm standing it does look like a drawing - | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
you have a drawing, the drawing is illustrated, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
you've got the provenance. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:40 | |
Of course, you know what you've got to do next, don't you? | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
I mean, there's only one way to get a Picasso through | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
and that's to go to the Picasso family | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
and get the stamp of approval. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
And, as I'm sure you know, that is no easy task. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
Sometimes they say yes, and sometimes they say non. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
If it's by Picasso - | 0:56:59 | 0:57:00 | |
and it's looking good - | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
it's worth £60,000 to £80,000. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
Well, Picasso Institute, here we come. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
Well, be prepared. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:11 | |
You know, there are names that you dream | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
might turn up on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
and Picasso has to be right up there. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
What an incredible find - | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
and what a story. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:25 | |
We're all hugely excited. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow team, in Harrogate, bye-bye. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 |