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After more than a decade of valuation days and auction rooms,

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we have a wealth of experience valuing and selling your antiques and collectables on "Flog It!".

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Fascinating. It's a really interesting object.

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Are we all done at 1,900?

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That is fantastic, isn't it?

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And our experts are raring to go with some more inside information,

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so if there's something you need to know, you're more than likely to find it right here.

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Welcome to Trade Secrets.

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Ever since an Englishman's home has been his castle,

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we've looked at ways of being comfortable and happy within our own four walls,

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whether it's something to sit on, eat from or for passing the time.

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The things we buy for our homes have a special resonance.

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Today, it's all about objects that once delighted us in our homes, and are now highly collectable.

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We've got great tips on everything from early Victorian home entertainment

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to cool, retro technology.

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'Coming up, I'm amazed by a fantastic result at auction.'

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-Bang, the hammer's gone down. What a result!

-Amazing!

-I'm so pleased.

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'Will shocks a visitor with his estimate on an old telly.'

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-Really?

-Yes. Is that more than you thought it would be worth?

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Much more.

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'And our experts will be revealing the best collectables.'

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My tip, if you're looking for more accessible things, is probably old radios.

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In the days before catch-up TV and the internet,

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people found other ways to while away the hours at home.

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What we now consider antique or old-fashioned was once state-of-the-art gadgets.

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Now, at our "Flog It!" valuation days,

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we see many objects that were once designed

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to provide home entertainment,

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so what do our experts think we should be looking out for?

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There's an interest in old techno items,

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be it televisions, radios, gramophones.

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Mechanical music is interesting,

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music boxes and disc players and Polyphons, things like that.

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Early pieces of technology can be very desirable,

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particularly items such as magic lanterns

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and particularly magic lanterns if they don't just have one lens.

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If they've got three lenses, for example, they're very collectable, so really early entertainment.

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Our idea of family recreation is very different today,

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but the Victorians and Edwardians found plenty of things to amuse themselves with

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and you keep us entertained by bringing them to "Flog It!".

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We may not think of these simple, popular items as collectables,

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but Anita knows how much they appeal to the bidders.

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This is an interesting thing here.

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This is what I would call a Victorian home entertainment centre.

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It's a stereoscope. Every home would have something like this

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and they would buy cards which showed you perhaps the Great Exhibitions

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or scenes in Japan, scenes of India,

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so that people were able to see foreign lands at that time.

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If you can imagine the time then,

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there were no televisions, there were no radios,

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there was no internet,

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there were no internet games,

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so people had to find ways of amusing themselves and the stereoscope was one of them.

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Now, on the front here we have two eyepieces.

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Now, these would be used when we were viewing the cards which were specially manufactured for this

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and this big lens here would be used as a magnifying glass for our photographs.

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Tell me where you got it.

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I bought a house. These two old people lived in it and they died.

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When we saw this, I had no interest in it, but my husband kept it.

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-Did he know what it was?

-He thought it was something for a doctor.

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Jeanette's husband thought it was a medical device.

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I wonder what sort of medical device he thought it was?

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-Unfortunately, we don't have any of the slides, the cards.

-No, we didn't.

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Well, if you had, he would have probably worked out that it wasn't a medical instrument

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and it was a piece of home entertainment.

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-Price-wise, I would estimate it in the region of, say, £20, £30.

-Mm-hm.

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Victorian stereoscope with slides.

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There we have it. £20? £10, please? 10 bid. 15.

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20. At 25.

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At 30. 5. At 40.

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At 5. At 50.

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-This is good.

-At 5. At 60.

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At 5. At 70. At 5.

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-At £75...

-Brilliant.

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The bid's at the back of the room at 75.

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At £75 and I'm selling now at £75...

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-The hammer's gone down. That was a good result, Anita.

-Excellent.

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-I'm happy for you.

-Thank you very much.

-That's OK.

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A great result.

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Many families had these amusements at home,

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so it's worth checking out your attics to see what you can find.

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The fact that it will no longer be used today

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and the fact that it isn't a functional item really doesn't make any difference at all.

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It's still a desirable item and still worth every penny of £75.

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Another example of home entertainment we see a lot on "Flog It!" are magic lanterns.

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I've had it working once. There was smoke coming out of the top of it.

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We got gassed with the fumes, so we stopped using it.

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These are fabulous. They're magic lantern slides.

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Wind the handle and it gives the most wonderful patterns.

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Magic lantern shows became popular in the 19th century

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when people found the idea of seeing images projected on a screen spooky and fascinating

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and the Victorians soon seized on them to amuse and entertain family and friends at home.

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I can imagine hours of endless fun

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looking at these slides through a magic lantern.

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And it seems Anita is really drawn to these early projectors too.

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Now, your magic lantern has seen better days.

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Has it ever!

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This has very, very little value. It wasn't the best of quality.

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I've seen some beautiful ones which are brassbound with beautiful oak trimmings and so on.

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What was of interest there were the packets of slides.

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Now, we have about 12, 15 boxes of slides

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from Victorian times up until the '30s and some classics.

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I mean, we have the Disney ones here as well, so this will make it interesting.

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Now, these three here

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are of particular interest and these are older ones as well.

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And if we can pick one up,

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the slide would be put in...

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..and what you've got is a crazy, bearded Scotsman,

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brandishing weapons...

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And if you pull the slide back, there he is,

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shooting someone with a pistol.

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'These little moving slides were very, very interesting'

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and they, in actual fact, were the precursor of movies and television.

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Robert, I would like to put a value

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of £100 to £150.

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Yes.

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Would you be happy to sell them at that?

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Yes, I would hope they would do better.

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I would hope they would do better as well. I tend to estimate conservatively.

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The magic lantern with a collection of boxed and other slides.

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80. 5. 90.

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100. 110. 20.

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40. 60. 180.

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200. I'll take 20 quickly. I'm selling at 200...

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-What will you put £200 towards?

-I'm sure my grandson will benefit.

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I'd estimated much lower than that,

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but it just showed the desirability of these slides

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and quite probably the prize in the slides were the moving ones.

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The need for domestic entertainment has led to all sorts of technological advances down the ages

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and to some iconic looks.

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There were some pretty funky designs going on

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in the '30s and '40s, into the '50s and '60s,

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which are probably more relevant today than they were then.

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They were rejected then as being too racy, whereas nowadays we love that retro look.

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There's a huge market in collectors' items,

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20th century collectors' items,

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things that I have been brought up with as a child -

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televisions, radios, record players.

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'You're not wrong, Charlie.

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'And I got a lesson in just how desirable these things are

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'back in 2006.'

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-When we open this up, there's a big surprise in here.

-There is.

-Ta-da!

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It's an early radio.

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It belonged to my partner's grandfather and it's been in their house since he was a small child.

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It's a crystal radio and I think it's absolutely superb.

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We've got another little surprise in here because that's a little drawer and there's a set of headphones.

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These, I bet, are in working order because they look pretty good to me.

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We've never actually tried to have it working, but...

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I wouldn't like to either. You've got to attach the headphones to these two terminals.

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This is the tuner and it says here,

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"Type approved by the Postmaster General for the BBC."

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-Isn't it lovely? The crystal would go in here.

-Yes.

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Value? Crikey...

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With the headphones, we'll put a value of £50 to £90.

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-OK.

-Are you happy with that?

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Yes, I'm happy with that, Paul.

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Interest starts me here already at 95. 100. And 10, you're in, sir.

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At 110. Both my bidders are out. At 110. And 20. 30.

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140. 50. 160.

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170. 180. 190.

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-200. 220...

-They absolutely love it, don't they?

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I can't believe it!

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In front at £220...

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-Bang, the hammer's gone down. What a result!

-Amazing!

-I'm so pleased.

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-I would never have thought...

-No, I wouldn't.

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It did even better than I had hoped.

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I love this early technology,

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so search your sheds and attics and see what your grandparents may have bought

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that could make you some money at auction.

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And even what you and your parents bought shouldn't be ignored.

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Will couldn't wait to get his hands on this fabulous retro item.

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When I saw it, I thought perhaps you'd come on your motorbike and had left your Day-Glo helmet in the bag,

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or perhaps a part-time astronaut.

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-This is a great piece of post-war design. How did you come by it?

-It's my sister's.

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She and her husband got married in 1968, so I assume they bought it shortly after that.

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-I think it probably dates from more towards the early '70s.

-Yeah.

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Right up my street, lovely thing.

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Classic '70s design, bright colours, bold,

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and I thought, "We don't see enough of that on "Flog It!" "

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We've got the name of the maker on it, JVC, a Japanese firm

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who in the sort of '70s, early '70s,

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they were taking their design influence from the space race,

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which is where this TV gets its nickname, shall we say?

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-It's known as the Sputnik.

-Is it?

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Yeah. After the Russian satellites that were blasted into orbit.

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TVs nowadays want to get thinner and thinner and thinner,

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but someone at JVC thought it would be a great idea to have a TV in a ball.

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Great, out-of-the-box thinking.

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-You see these two chains popping out of the top?

-Yeah.

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They would have been a chain loop

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because the alternative for this is you could have it on the stand as you have here,

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which is again a multi-swivel stand, or you could hang it from a ceiling.

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As a piece of sculpture, it works beautifully.

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Whether it works as a telly, I'm not entirely sure, hanging in the corner of the room there by a chain.

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But who cares? It looked beautiful.

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And I see you've still got it wired up, so it does still work.

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-Yes, I tried it the other week.

-You get all the channels?

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-All five terrestrial channels.

-That's better than my modern telly at home!

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I would suggest a sensible estimate of £200 to £300.

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-Really?

-Yes.

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-Is that more than you thought it would be worth?

-Much more.

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If we say 200 to 300,

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put a reserve on it at £200, bit of discretion?

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-My sister said she didn't worry about the reserve.

-No reserve. Excellent. £200 to £300, no reserve.

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Hopefully, we'll do very well for you on the day.

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Having no reserve is a great way to tempt the bidders, but do take advice from the auctioneer.

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You must be prepared for your item to sell for a low price.

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I can open the bidding at 100 here. On the book at £100.

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-Gone.

-£100 on the book. 120?

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120. 140?

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120 at the back. I'm out at 120.

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At £120, are you done?

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Are you sure?

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The hammer's gone down at £120.

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-Not bad.

-No retro collectors here today.

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-It got the lower end.

-It's worth 200 quid.

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I put the estimate for the TV at £200 to £300 because I believed that's what it was worth

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and I still believe that's what it was worth.

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I agree. The market for retro items is particularly strong just now,

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so someone bagged a bargain there.

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And you could too if you keep an eye on auction websites

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and place a commission bid if you can't get there in person.

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If you're looking out for techno bargains,

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we're seeing a new interest in old computers

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from the time when I was a child in the late '70s, early 1980s.

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Those old computers, people are buying them. If you've got them boxed, new and in good condition,

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then perhaps those are a good thing to hang on to.

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I suspect that if you're looking at today's gadgets,

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something like a mobile phone,

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a rare, valuable mobile phone

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could well become even more valuable in the future

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because this technology is changing daily.

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Apple were perhaps the forerunners in the design of smartphones and sort of being user-friendly,

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then they might be something to collect.

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We're all on number 5s now, aren't we?

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I wonder if a few people have got the old number 3 at home?

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It might become a design classic of the future.

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So, from the cutting-edge designs for the future,

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there are still some very collectable items for the home with the classic appeal of the past

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and one of our experts is a little obsessed.

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Philip Serrell is not really a man to show his feelings.

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He's a rugby-loving, cigar-smoking, sports car-driving man's man,

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but even he gets a tear in his eye when he comes across a piece of Royal Worcester porcelain

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at a "Flog It!" valuation day.

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-Do you know where I'm from?

-Worcester.

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-Why is that relevant?

-Because it's a Worcester teapot.

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What really does it for me about antiques is the social history,

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so for Worcester porcelain,

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it's important for me because I'm a Worcester boy,

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I was educated in Worcester, I used to go to the Worcester Porcelain Museum as a 13, 14, 15-year-old.

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Not much I can tell you about that.

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-You're the expert.

-What? Don't you come round here using that language!

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As I got into it, I began to appreciate the effect

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that the porcelain factory had on the city of Worcester in social terms, people who worked there,

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and the whole thing that it brought to the city and the county,

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and that's what does it for me now.

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In my eyes, I might be slightly biased, I think Worcester is the best English factory there was.

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Phil's auction house is in the heart of the Worcestershire countryside in a converted chapel

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and his business is a family affair with his wife Briony and his daughter both working with him.

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Clem's my daughter. She's with me today in the saleroom.

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She first came into these hallowed portals... She's 29 now. I was an incredibly young father(!)

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But she first came in here probably 28½ years ago.

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I've been coming to salerooms since I was probably knee-high to a grasshopper.

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There's black-and-white photos of my mum and I at farm sales

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when my dad did livestock auctions before the antique stuff took off,

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then from there, he's moved on to selling painted fruit to selling paintings.

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I'd like to think I've been there every step of the way. Five years ago, I came into the business fully,

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so now I'm here all the time.

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Phil is hopeful that Clem will grow to love Royal Worcester as much as he does.

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He's got a regular sale coming up featuring the local porcelain

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and there are over 100 lots ready to be viewed.

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This is all of the Worcester in next week's sale. There are interesting things here.

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-Here's a bit of a quiz now, see how much you've learned.

-OK.

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Who are the best Worcester porcelain artists and what do they paint?

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-OK, Harry Davis - sheep.

-Which is that little vase down there.

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-Yeah.

-Which will make £1,000-plus.

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I'd say.

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-Charley Baldwyn - plates.

-These plates here which are worth, hopefully, about £1,000 each.

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Then these powder-blue vases are Charley Baldwyn and they're 3,000 to 5,000.

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-The plates are a bit more interesting.

-Beautifully painted.

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-And cattle - Stinton.

-The Stinton family.

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These aren't the Stintons. These are later copies of Stintons.

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Those are Stinton. He did Highland cattle, massively sought after.

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Sometimes when Worcester comes into the saleroom, I look at it and think,

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"Some people give £3,000, £5,000 for this sort of thing. Why?"

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I can appreciate it and when you look at what they've painted on these items,

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a lot of the time, if it's a vase or a pot, it's curved.

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To paint some of these things on a curve and on a piece of ceramic is quite hard,

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but in terms of whether I'd actually want to own it, it's slightly different.

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-Then we have all this painted fruit. It's massively valuable because...

-Travellers.

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Travellers' caravans are full of really good painted fruit Worcester and this is painted fruit Worcester.

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-Hit me with some painted fruit artists.

-Freeman and Ayrton were the two best for painted fruit.

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Yeah, though one of the earlier ones you rarely see was Richard Sebright.

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-Yeah.

-He was absolutely stunning.

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Worcester items like part dinner services decorated with half a peach and a bit of leaf and half an apple,

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they remind me of going round to your aunt's house for dinner

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and they've got the roast potatoes in one, carrots in the other.

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It does still have its market, but it's not my taste.

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I don't know anybody my age who would collect it, really.

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If you're giving someone a tip who's buying painted fruit, what would it be?

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Out of these two, which would you tell them to buy?

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-From the front, I like that one, but when you turn them over, you'll go for that one.

-Why?

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-It's got a pink backstamp.

-What does that mean?

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It's more valuable than the black backstamp. Always go pink.

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There you are. Go pink. This is interesting because this is a Locke and Co Worcester vase.

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-But it's got a peacock on it. What do we know about peacocks' feathers?

-Unlucky.

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-Why?

-Devil's eye.

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You'd never have a peacock's feather in the house.

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So, a Worcester vase with a pheasant on it is worth a lot more than one with a peacock on it because...?

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-It's unlucky.

-You got it.

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Today, Philip and Clem have got a decision to make about some very personal family items.

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Part of this job is I clear houses for people when members of the family have died.

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My mother has recently died, so I'm now doing my own job for me.

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You approach it from a completely different angle.

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She collected Worcester porcelain for 30 or 40 years

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and now I must decide whether I keep this stuff or sell it.

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Most of the figures that my mother's got are by Freda Doughty

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and Freda Doughty did little figures of countries of the world, days of the week, months of the year.

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They are very much collectors' pieces

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and in a way, I much prefer the earlier Worcester porcelain dating from the 18th century.

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The thing is, we've got nothing like this at home, have we?

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No, it's just the sort of thing that gathers dust.

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-Do you like these things?

-Not particularly. Do you?

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No. In fact, not at all.

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Are any of these worth anything?

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You've got the auctioneer's friend with this lot over here which is 80 to 120, but some of these here,

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-the countries of the world should make anywhere between £150 and £300 a go.

-OK.

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I can remember my mother being so excited that she bought that one. 20 years ago, that cost 150, 200 quid.

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-I don't think I'd be giving £200 for that.

-It's worth a lot more now.

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So, what would you spend the money on?

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Other than shoes and handbags, maybe a nice painting, a seascape.

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That's November and you were born in November, so we'll put that one by. I'd like to keep that one.

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And that's Tuesday's child and you were born on a Tuesday,

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-so those two are your sort of birth date.

-Yeah.

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I'd like to hang on to those two.

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The rest of them, what will we do? Keep, sell, yes, no?

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-I'm going to say "sell".

-Really?

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-Yeah. Obviously, it's down to you, but not really my kind of thing.

-OK.

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-"Sell" it is then.

-Yeah.

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OK, good enough.

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For anyone who inherits something, there's a huge emotional tie as to whether you should sell or keep.

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And I really do believe that if you don't like something, sell it.

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Don't keep it just because it was your father's or your grandfather's or whatever.

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It's no secret that I love antique wood.

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You bring all sorts of wooden items, known as treen, to our tables.

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From spoons and boxes to tools and kitchen gadgets.

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It's a piece of what we call treen.

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A nice piece of treen.

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Made from the tree.

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-It can be quite hard to date.

-I'd have thought, yes.

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Treen is a term used to describe all small, wooden, functional household or agricultural items.

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It's a great field for collectors, especially if you limit it to one type of object, like snuff boxes.

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You can see the top of it slides off here and this is where all the snuff would have been stored.

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Before cheap metal and plastic came into use, wood was the most easily accessible and cheapest

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raw material available for making everyday objects.

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Close-grained hardwoods like box, beech and sycamore were popular for making treen.

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And the best objects are the ones that have developed a deep colour and a patination through the years

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of handling and use.

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That's what collectors look for.

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Now and again we see a really special treen item.

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It might be made of an unusual wood or have lots of intricate decoration.

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That's when it gets really exciting. Even something that looks a bit rough and ready can charm bidders.

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At £700 we sell.

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-700 quid!

-Very nice, too.

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Here's another little gem that caused a real stir with its beautiful turning and carving.

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If we open it up, very carefully,

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-we can see that it is actually a little nutmeg grater.

-That's right. Yeah.

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740. Are we done?

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At £740.

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740!

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Thank you! Thank you, darling.

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I may be biased, but treen is a great choice for new collectors.

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There's plenty of variety and you can spend as much or as little as you like. Happy hunting!

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In these days of equality, the whole family helps to make a house a home,

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but in previous centuries, it was very much the woman's realm

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and their domestic accomplishments are very much celebrated today.

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This sampler isn't particularly early

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and it isn't particularly special.

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It's 1890, which is quite late as samplers go,

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but to me, it absolutely epitomises the vagaries of the auction trade.

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This came up for auction 25 years ago in a saleroom close to me.

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Because it says here "South Cave Girls' School", that was the school I went to,

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so I desperately wanted to buy this.

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It was worth probably £30, £40 at the time,

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but I got a bit of auction fever and I went up and up and up.

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I dropped out at about 200. Two other people continued the fight

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and the hammer went down for £300 which was ridiculous.

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I was miffed I hadn't bought it, but I got over it.

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20 years later, I went to another saleroom in a nearby village.

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I saw the sampler that I should have had for sale and I thought, "This time, I'm going to get it."

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I left a bid, I can't remember what bid I left, but the next day I went in to see if I'd got it.

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Yes, I'd got it for £30 this time and I love it and it's staying with me.

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Don't ever get auction fever.

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Something might not be worth what it gets at auction.

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It could be that just two people desperately want the item.

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Wait. 20 years later, who knows, you might get it for a song.

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It's easy to let your emotions run away with you in the excitement of the saleroom,

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but should we be more sensible and restrained? What do our experts think?

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Buy with your head or buy with your heart.

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It all depends on what you're buying for.

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If you're buying to make a profit on something, buy with your head.

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If you are buying something because you want to put it in your home, buy with your heart.

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As an auctioneer, I love to see somebody

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who's carried away because their heart tells them

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they want something and they can't live without it,

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but bring your head along to the auction as well.

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I'm a passionate sort of fellow, so I would say, "Buy with your heart."

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If you really like it, get it bought. If it's a bit more than your budget, who cares?

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There's nothing worse than getting home and thinking, "I wish I'd bought that item."

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'Whether you buy on a whim or have carefully researched an item,

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'it's clear that some objects

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'designed for home entertainment

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'are classic collectables today

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'and you can reach high prices

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'at the right auction.'

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-Bang, hammer's gone down.

-Wow!

-What a result!

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So if you've got something you want to sell, you know where to come.

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I hope you can put some of our tips to good use. Please join us again soon for more Trade Secrets.

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