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Welcome to Flog It! Trade Secrets,

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the show that aims to put YOU in the know

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when it comes to buying and selling antiques and collectables.

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With over ten years of Flog It! behind us,

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that's hundreds of shows and many thousands

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of objects valued and sold.

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So, if you want to know more, you've come to the right place.

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On today's show, we're giving you the inside track on items that

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hail from those parts of the globe that used to be coloured

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pink on old maps - the British Empire.

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Coming up...

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We see some intriguing items from around the world...

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Oh, I love this! I love this.

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And the most wonderful sort of snarling snake's head.

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Now, that's horrifying.

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..our experts reveal what's in their own collections...

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I've brought one of my favourite personal items to show you today,

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and we use it still to feed our hens with.

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..and offer some surprising tips...

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All you have to do is just huff over it.

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HE HUFFS

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I step aboard that most treasured national vessel, HMS Victory.

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This vessel carried 104 guns, she faced her enemy at close range

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and she's left a legacy which should never be forgotten.

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For nearly 400 years, right up until the latter part of the 20th century,

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we were a mighty imperial force.

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By 1922, the British Empire - the largest in history -

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held sway over a fifth of the world's population

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and covered nearly a quarter of the Earth's total landmass.

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So, it stands to reason that many wonderful treasures

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have made their way to our shores. And thankfully,

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some of them have made their way to our valuation days.

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But what should you look out for when buying imperial items?

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My tip, I think, would be to go for the Indian items -

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not just furniture, but silver and works of art.

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Do not get tempted by the souk seller

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selling you his "very rare" carpet.

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Please don't, because, invariably...

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99% of the time,

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it would be brand new.

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So don't buy anything to start with for £10,000,

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or you could come unstuck.

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Our first port of call on our imperial journey

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is the Indian subcontinent -

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the jewel in the crown of the British Empire,

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and some objects I found intriguing.

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Well, Dee, you've travelled the world, haven't you?

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No, my grandmother.

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She was born in India.

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Her parents lived in India.

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Her father owned a tea plantation

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and she was born and brought up in Lahore.

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David was delighted by Dee's collection,

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but one piece in particular caught his eye.

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The most amazing piece is this bangle, here,

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which, although it's not marked gold, I think is gold.

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And it's set with turquoise and ruby.

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And the most wonderful sort of snarling snake's head.

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Now, that's horrifying.

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It is horrifying, isn't it?

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But this was a sort of fashionable bracelet to be

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worn by Victorian ladies.

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-Was it worn by any member of your family?

-My grandmother.

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-Oh, right. You remember that, can you?

-Yes.

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David estimated the bangle would fetch £80-160.

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But would the taste of a Victorian colonial lady stand

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the test of time in today's market?

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5, 80, 5.

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-This is very good.

-They like it.

-Yes, they love it.

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280 now. 280.

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300. 350 is a fresh bidder.

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At 600. Are there any more bids?

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At 600, in the middle of the room. Last call. Going at £600.

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GAVEL BANGS

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-Oh!

-Wow.

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Would you like a seat?

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What David knew was that gold from India may not be hallmarked,

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but can still command amazing prices.

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-Oh!

-Wow.

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And Michael found something interesting from the other

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end of the Indian subcontinent.

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Andy, thank you so much for bringing it in,

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this absolutely marvellous and curious box.

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My pleasure. Do you think it's Indian?

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I think... Now, this has tested me slightly,

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cos I've seen these variously described as African or Indian,

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but I think, especially with the use of ebony, that they

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were made and exported from Ceylon. So I was would be happy to be

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corrected, but as far as I consider, it's a Ceylonese box.

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Ceylon was obviously a very important destination,

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and there were a lot of British colonial workers

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in and around that region.

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Ceylon is a former British colony that,

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since 1972, has been known as Sri Lanka.

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Did you know what it was made of when you saw it?

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Well, I thought it was porcupine quill,

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but I'm not sure if this is ebony, or whether the inlay is ivory or bone...

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You're absolutely right.

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Andy's quillwork box was typical of quillwork boxes that I see.

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In effect, the quills are cut and set into panels,

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and the interior borders, which are usually of an exotic hardwood,

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are decorated with small ivory inlays, and usually you have

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a central motif on the lid of an elephant, which we did in this case.

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It is made for the tourist market.

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If you get one ring handle, and I'll get the other, and heave!

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So, we've got all these fitted boxes.

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I would imagine these would be for sewing requisites,

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they would be for jewellery,

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they would be for anything you wanted to put in them.

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There was a supply of objects, in a European taste, for them to take

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when they'd finished their tour of duty, if you like, or

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if they were working in the civil service, to take back to Britain.

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These boxes tended to be a very popular form.

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You can judge the quality of them by the number of ivory dots you

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get in the border.

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Basically, the more dots and the closer they are together,

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the better quality of the box.

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-Any idea what it might be worth?

-None at all.

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-I thought £30, £40, maybe?

-Oh! I'd give you £30 all day long for it.

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Oh, no. I think let's be conservative

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and say £80-120.

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Oh, yes.

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In fairness, when I saw the box, I did put a slightly restrictive

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low estimate on it, and I was hoping that it would exceed that.

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The big question is, did it?

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Start at £50. 50...

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-That's very low, but there are a few hands...

-70.

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In the case of the box, Andy didn't really want it back, he wanted

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it sold, so there was no reason to kill it with a large estimate.

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-220.

-This is more like it.

-230, 240.

-Fantastic.

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And, as it turned out, that worked in its favour

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and it made a very good price.

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£250, the gentleman there, at the back. 250.

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-Sold, £250.

-Wow. Fantastic, yeah.

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-Well done.

-Brilliant.

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A low estimate might attract more bidders

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and result in a higher sale price.

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What both the Ceylonese box and the Indian bangle show

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is that great craftsmanship can make great prices.

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A growth area in overseas antiques and collectibles is tribal

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artefacts, and on Flog It!, we have seen some spectacular sales.

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Aboriginal art is an expanding market,

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and there's a huge amount of interest in Aboriginal art.

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The best tribal art is not particularly about the object, it's

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whether or not it was made for the people to use in the people's way.

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Throughout the history of the Empire and the Commonwealth,

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people from this country have been posted

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to the four corners of the globe.

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I was working for the Department of Defence in Australia

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and I was posted into Darwin, and I had the opportunity to travel around

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the missions and Melville Island, where some of these have come from.

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Aboriginal art is fetching such good money right now.

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Not only are the Australians buying it back -

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it's their social history, they want to fill their museums...

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We were fortunate with these cos they were just early enough

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and some of them were by recognised Aboriginal artists,

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so we were able to find a very strong market for them.

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-I'd like to put a value of £300-500 on the whole lot.

-Absolutely fine.

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If we have a lot of excitement pre the sale,

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Adam can use his discretion and split them up.

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Well, they came as one lot,

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and I'm not one to criticise Paul in any way,

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but, once we'd had a look at the valuations,

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we felt that they would be better served, and the contributor

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would get more money back to him, to split them into lots.

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We've split them into lots.

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-I think these are the strongest, so I've done these three first.

-OK.

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Hopefully those will make the 300 and...

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-Whatever's left will make up the difference.

-Yeah.

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They were by different artists,

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and I think if they're going to be worth 150, 200 plus each,

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then they should be sold separately, cos someone may just want the one,

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and they may not want to pay £2,000 or so for the whole lot,

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just to get the one that they want.

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I've been looking forward to this moment.

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The Aboriginal art belonging to David. We have a packed house here.

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We certainly have.

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We were inundated with enquiries, not just from Australia

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but from collectors of Aboriginal art from around the world, so,

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of course, the more enquires equals more bidders,

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equals the better price on the auction day!

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Lot number 80 is the first one. 170 is on this phone here. All done now.

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170. We sell at 170.

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£170. That's the first item.

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Goanna and Snakes Hunting by Walid Peru.

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Another phone line.

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At 180, all done now.

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-£180.

-Lovely.

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Third one to go.

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At 210, are you all done on this one?

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210.

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The hammer's going down. 210.

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180 on the phone. 180 for the killing stick.

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There's the fourth lot. £180.

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170 on this phone. Same buyer.

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-GAVEL BANGS

-Yes! £170 for the didgeridoo.

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This is fantastic.

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The final one is the wooden spear in the form of a snake.

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£620... Anyone in the room want a go now?

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-CROWD LAUGHS

-At 620?

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We're all done now, at 620. We sell this lot at 620.

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Yes! Hammer's gone down. £620.

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We sold all of those lots.

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Clearly, these were the real deal. The provenance was impeccable.

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David bought them himself in Northern Australia

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in the 1950s and '60s.

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So, what should we be looking out for today?

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Beware of buying things that are too recent, cos,

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since it's become popular, of course, you got Australia now -

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I've not been, but people tell me - you can acquire

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Aboriginal pieces, but they're more designated for the tourist market.

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As soon as you start getting something that's for the tourist market,

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whether it's early or late, then it loses credibility.

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'I'm somebody who always loves to see a bit of tribal art.'

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James, welcome. I have to say, I don't think it's just the name we have in common,

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looking at what you brought along today.

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'The great thing about James is, as soon as he saw me he said,

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"I've got something for you", and he knew that I'd love it.

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Why the interest in tribal art?

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It started 25 years ago when I picked up a mask in a skip.

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-In a skip?!

-Yeah.

-Where was that?

-Locally.

-Just outside a house?

-Yep.

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Tell me how you've come to have them.

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-This one, I picked up at auction for £15.

-15?!

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It's a classic piece of north-west African,

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so from Nigeria, Ivory Coast...

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The headdress and the collars on one of the figures,

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in particular, is typical of the Benin people.

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They were the countries that would go

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and find Africans from other tribes and sell them to the West as slaves.

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-Would these be children?

-I think these are kids.

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These are young boys who are being captured by the Benin.

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Here we've got the ropes. This chap here has got a machete.

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Two machetes here. And look, holding this child up who's still...

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-Sucking his thumb.

-Sucking his thumb. So, all symbolisms of childhood.

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Arms tied behind the back here, arms tied behind the back here.

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I think we've got an interesting panel here.

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Today, the British involvement with slavery is

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viewed as an unsavoury part of our history.

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But in the time of the British Empire,

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many fortunes at home were built on the slave trade.

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For port cities, such as Bristol and Liverpool,

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it was a major economic mainstay.

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Wilberforce, back in the early 19th century, abolished slavery

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in the UK, so it, rightly so, wasn't something we were very proud of.

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I think we need to be

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fairly open-minded when it comes to age with this.

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Slavery was abolished throughout the British Empire in 1833,

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and a panel like this, made decades later,

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is likely to have been a tourist piece.

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But isn't slavery a rather gruesome subject for a souvenir?

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It's something that is, um...

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..a part of our past that we should be ashamed of,

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but should be discussed, and I think

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if these things are buried and not talked about, then it's unhealthy.

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James sold the panel, along with a tribal ladle, in one lot.

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Tribal panel, very nice one. 150. 160.

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Great.

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170.

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170. Are you finished now? 170?

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All done at 170 on the telephone. 170.

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Yes! Hammer's gone down.

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It was a quiet hammer going down, wasn't it?

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Top estimate wasn't a bad result,

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and both Jameses were satisfied.

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But the tribal panel didn't raise the roof, possibly because of

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the gruesome subject matter, as well as the fact it was a tourist piece.

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It can be a different story, though,

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when you come across an artefact that's the genuine article.

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-Oh, Bernie. Can I call you Bernie?

-You certainly can.

-I love this.

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-I love this! It comes from a long, long way away. Tonga.

-Really?

-Yes.

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Tonga is a group of islands in the southern Pacific Ocean,

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which became known as The Friendly Islands,

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after the cordial welcome the locals gave Captain Cook in 1773.

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200 years later, in 1970, Tonga joined the British Commonwealth.

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Tell me how you came across this.

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We had an elderly uncle who came along one day and said

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he'd like us to have it cos he was afraid it was going to disappear.

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He just gave it to us over 40 years ago.

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It's a hunting and a killing weapon,

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-and a weapon of self-defence.

-Really?

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What do you think this is worth?

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A couple of hundred?

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-It's more likely to do somewhere in the region of £1,000.

-Really?!

-Yes!

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When it came to auction, Bernice was on holiday,

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but I desperately wanted her to share in the excitement of the sale.

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Have a gin and tonic, sit down, put your feet up

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and enjoy this roller coaster ride.

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2,700. 2,800.

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I'm tingling. Can you hear this?

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BERNICE: Yeah, I can. I'm shaking!

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3,600. 3,700. 3,800.

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3,900. 4,000. 4,200.

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-4,500. 4,800.

-Can you hear this?

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-'No, I can't hear it now.'

-£5,000 in the room.

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SHE GASPS AND YELPS

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'Incredible.'

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5,800. 6,000, sir?

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At £5,800 on the telephone.

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-Can you hear that?

-£5,800.

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Gosh. Bang! The hammer's gone down.

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That was incredible.

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You just got a round of applause in the sale room, at £5,800.

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'Just incredible.'

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Gosh, what a result. That was fabulous.

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We were all surprised at the sale price of Bernice's Tongan club.

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It just goes to prove that the auction room is the right place

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to sell tribal artefacts, cos buyers from all over the world can

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pick up on it and have the chance to bid,

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which does push the price up.

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I certainly hope that club finds its way back home.

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What other handy tips have we learnt about buying

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and selling antiques that hail from foreign climes?

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Avoid pieces that look like they were made for the tourist market,

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unless they have some obvious age and quality.

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Look closely at the craftsmanship.

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It should be relatively easy to tell.

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Items made from Indian gold won't have been assayed in this country,

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so are unlikely to have been marked.

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If you are not sure if something is authentically gold,

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don't spend a fortune on it.

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Provenance is key.

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Try and find out as much as you can about an object before parting

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with your cash. If you're sure it's a genuine thing, then go for it.

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Most importantly, if you are buying for yourself,

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all that matters is you love it.

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Many things that are familiar with us

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today originated from the British Empire's four corners, and

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that's certainly true of precious stones, as Thomas Plant explains.

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Some of the best diamonds we see in the antiques world are antique

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and they're from India. They look too good to be true.

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They're so white, they're so pure, and you think,

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"Oh, is this really a diamond?"

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You're there, you could be at a car-boot sale,

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you could be at a flea market.

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"Is it going to be a piece of glass? It looks amazing."

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So, what does one do if you haven't got your eyeglass,

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you haven't got a laboratory next to you?

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A diamond will not take condensation.

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A piece of glass will, other gemstones will.

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All you have to do is just huff over it...

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HE HUFFS

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..and nothing will change. On other stones, it will remain...

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for a second.

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But that's my top tip.

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The Indian subcontinent, Australia, Africa, the West Indies -

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the British Empire spanned the globe.

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It was our nation's mastery of the oceans that enabled us

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to dominate the world.

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Perhaps the greatest symbol of British sea power

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was Admiral Lord Nelson, whose most famous ship rests

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this day in Portsmouth, home of the Royal Navy.

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HMS Victory, a national icon, famous for her leading role in the

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greatest British naval victory of all time, the Battle Of Trafalgar.

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CANNONS BOOM

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Vice-Admiral Horatio Nelson's flagship and his deathbed,

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a complex machine of war and a thing of beauty.

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This vessel carried 104 guns.

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She faced her enemy at close range.

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She's left a legacy which should never be forgotten.

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Her story started in 1759.

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Plans and designs were organised by one of the greatest surveyors of the Navy at the time.

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It took 250 skilled shipwrights to build the hull

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of this magnificent vessel and they felled 5,000 oak trees to do it.

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This is the original decking.

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Once a hull was built, it was left to season in dry dock for three years,

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far longer than you would normally expect wood to dry out

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but they left the wind to blow through it,

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taking out all the moisture content, which closed the grain up even tighter,

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making it impervious to rot and wear and damage.

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That's possibly the reason why this vessel has lasted such a long time.

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After all, she is the oldest commissioned naval warship in the world.

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After being launched in May 1765,

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it was actually 13 years later until HMS Victory was called to fight.

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Once she started, she didn't hold back and took part in more

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than ten battles, under several different admirals.

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But her biggest fight took place in 1805

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against the increasing threat that was Napoleon Bonaparte.

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HMS Victory would now set sail on its greatest voyage ever,

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under the command of Vice-Admiral Lord Nelson,

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who was now recognised for his unconventional tactics.

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When he set sail on the Victory, he had already lost an arm

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and the sight in one eye in battle.

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It seemed he and the vessel were fearless in their ambition

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to protect Britain,

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but could their combined might defeat Napoleon Bonaparte?

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Britain's flagship HMS Victory spanned 227 feet.

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She housed 820 crew, could reach a speed of ten knots

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and displaced a weight of 3,500 tonnes.

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The French and the Spanish had twice as many flagships.

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Napoleon was arrogantly confident.

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He thought the combined might of the Spanish and the French warships

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would be too much for Nelson and his fleet.

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But his military experience was on land, not at sea.

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Nelson, however, understood the ocean.

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He assembled his officers here in his cabin, around this very table.

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There is history in the making here.

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But Nelson's plan was simple and effective.

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He would sail up behind the enemy, split his fleet into two columns

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and surround the rear of the enemy lines, isolating it.

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His clever thinking was orchestrated to a devastating effect.

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17 French ships with captured and a knockout blow was

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delivered to the flagship, Bucentaure. The battle was won.

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CANNONS BOOM

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While HMS Victory survived,

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Nelson was shot right here on this very deck

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and that brass plaque marks the spot where he was shot by a French marksman.

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He lived long enough to know the battle was won,

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but later died below deck and his body was preserved

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in a barrel of brandy for the long and arduous journey back home.

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The Victory returned to Portsmouth, where she now rests.

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Standing here, it brings to life the accounts of how Nelson

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protected our country and that is definitely worth investing in.

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Between the 17th and 19th centuries, as the Empire opened the world up to

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trade, all manner of exotic items made their way to Britain.

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People's interest in the produce of the Empire

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was reflected in the items manufactured at the time.

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One style of ceramics that captured that interest was majolica.

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Deborah, you've brought in this very nice majolica oyster dish.

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It is majolica pottery.

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It's majolica, it's from Stoke-on-Trent, from the Potteries.

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-The wacky world of Victorian majolica.

-Yes.

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The lovely thing about majolica

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is the fun designs the factory brought in.

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It's wonderfully moulded, it's very naturalistic.

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It looks like a pineapple.

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You've got these nice, deep, moulded leaves, nice, strong colours.

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The inspiration for British majolica came from several places.

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The Italian pottery, the work of 16th century French potter

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Bernard Palissy, and other early British potters.

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The result was a highly decorative, colourful ceramic,

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which was very popular in mid-Victorian Britain.

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Huge majolica fountains with life-sized human and animal figures

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formed centrepieces at major Victorian trade shows.

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I love British majolica,

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and this jug by Minton

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typifies everything about majolica.

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In Britain, the big three Staffordshire potteries that

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dominated the market were Minton, Wedgwood and George Jones & Sons.

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There were also a number of smaller potters who were producing majolica,

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but it's best to look out for those big names.

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If you are wanting to form a collection of majolica now,

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go for the good pieces. Go for pieces which are unusual.

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For example, find a pineapple jug

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but maybe with a bug or a bird sitting on the handle,

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something that makes it a little bit more unusual.

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It is prone to chipping and cracking and,

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because a lot of the items were everyday domestic objects,

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collectors are willing to be a little bit more lenient.

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Particularly popular with collectors are the eccentric and exotic teapots

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which were made by Minton and George Jones.

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They come in a range of shapes and can fetch huge prices today.

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I think the monkey might attract quite a few people.

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This is it!

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£2,000.

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£2,400 over there.

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Are we finished?

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GAVEL BANGS

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What do you think about that? Bang, there it goes!

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-APPLAUSE

-Yeah, well done!

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So keep your eyes peeled for this kind of thing.

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The rarest of Winton teapots is the vulture and serpent design.

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One of these sold in 2005 for nearly £40,000.

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Right, next victim!

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Adam Partridge is a man of many talents - a musician and a sportsman

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and he certainly knows a thing or two about antiques.

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His own collection includes a rather surprising piece.

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I've brought one of my favourite personal items along to show

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you today and it is this little 19th century or earlier

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Jamaican grain scoop.

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I just think this is a charming object, very simple.

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Not expensive but a good couple of hundred years old.

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Great age and patination on it. You just can't fake things like that.

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I'm a big fan of all things Caribbean. I used to work

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on Caribbean cruise liners,

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back in 1998, auctioneering - selling artworks.

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It's where I met my dear wife. It's where I fell in love with her

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and with the islands as a whole.

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It's stamped up by a maker in Montego Bay in Jamaica

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and it says Jamaica BWI, British West Indies.

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It's just a lovely tactile object and we've got all these notches

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around the side. I don't know what they signify.

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In fact, when you own something yourself in this job,

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you're quite negligent on doing your own research. I've never even

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looked up the maker or anything.

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It's an item that was made to be used. You can see it's been used.

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That's what's given it all its character and charm.

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I don't believe an item like this should sit on a shelf.

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So we try and use this whenever we can. We keep hens

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and we use it still as a grain scoop to feed our hens with.

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Even everyday items like Adam's grain scoop

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will be of some interest in years to come.

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So, if you have an interesting item from a far-flung land,

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bring it along to one of our valuation days.

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You never know, you could be sitting on a small fortune.

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Do join me again soon for more trade secrets.

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