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It's been well over a decade since we first opened our doors to | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
a Flog It! valuation day, and during that time, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
we've travelled the length and the breadth of the British Isles, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
valuing and selling your unwanted antiques and collectibles. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
-This is the nicest thing I've seen all day. -1,550. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Yes! | 0:00:21 | 0:00:22 | |
And we've all learned a great deal about the items that have | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
passed through our hands and now, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
I want to share some of that information with you. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
So stand by to hear our experts' trade secrets. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
For a small country, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Britain has historically punched well above its weight | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
and for centuries, our history and culture has influenced nations | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
and people all across the globe. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
And today, our antiques are highly sought after worldwide. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
So today, we're celebrating the very best of British. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
We've got a programme that's brimming with patriotic punch... | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Telephone bidder at £1,250. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Yes! £1,250! That is a Flog It! moment! | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
Very much the best of British. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
..peppered with good old fashioned mystery... | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
A jug usually has a handle, but it also has a spout. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
..and overflowing with great British humour. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
Oh, no! I've made a walnut whip! | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
-Oh, no! -THEY LAUGH | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
I dare say from watching Flog It!, you're quite familiar with | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
some of the famous makers and masters of the antiques world. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Names like Wedgewood, Whitefriars, Clarice Cliff... | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
We see a lot of their work | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
on the show and it often sells for a small fortune. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
But what about the lesser known designers | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
and makers whose work deserves more attention, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
whose work is somewhat under the radar? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
If you look for artefacts which smack strongly of a region's history... | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
So, for example, I work in East Anglia at the moment, so what | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
would come to mind would be Lowestoft porcelain or Mendlesham chairs. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
If you can afford or are looking to buy a nice silver teaspoon, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
you might get one for £10 at auction. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
But if there's a Hester Bateman one in the same sale, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
it'll cost you £15 or £16, but go for that one instead. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
So do go for the names, if you possibly can. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Look at people around now, current artists, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
that are making really distinctive things. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Not just in silver or pottery, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
but in creation of any kind of sculpture or painting. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Now, if you thought that valuable pottery on these islands | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
came solely from Staffordshire, think again! | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
In 2003, the late great David Barby came across an unsung gem | 0:03:12 | 0:03:18 | |
from 'cross the Irish Sea. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
This is one of the most exciting things that's been brought in today. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
-Have you always treasured it? Has it always been on display? -No. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
-I've used the tray. -On the dressing table? -No, no, no. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
I used to put the turkey on it every Christmas | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
because it was the biggest plate I had. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
I'm sure the manufacturers that produced this exquisite | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
service did not expect it to be used as a turkey platter! | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
Thomas Plant is also a fan of this kind of fine porcelain. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
The story was the lady would put her turkey on the | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
tray at Christmas time. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
I'm surprised it stayed in one piece! | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
Now, it was produced in County Fermanagh, which is | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
Northern Ireland, by a company called Belleek. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
I can tell exactly what period this was made by the mark. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
Now, the mark at the bottom here, as you can see, has a small dog. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
Underneath, the inscription, County Fermanagh, Ireland. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Now, that will tell me two things. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
First of all, 1891, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
when the McKinley Tariff Act came in and it stated everything that | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
was imported into America had to have the place of origin. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
-That was followed through all over Europe. -Yes. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
And 1891 also, they changed it from just putting Belleek | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
underneath to putting County Fermanagh. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Normally, the decoration is a pink colour. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
But I like this delicate blue. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Belleek is so fragile, it's so thin. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
It's some of the thinnest porcelain we make in the British Isles. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:58 | |
We have this lid here, which has a crack, breakage, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
and part of the shell missing, but you only have three plates. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
-Is the fourth one missing? Is that broken? -Yes. -It's broken. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
The thing about Belleek, it's so very, very thin. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
When it does damage, it damages very quickly, very easily. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
Perfect pieces are so rare. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
-I would put a value of between £800-1,200. -Oh! | 0:05:22 | 0:05:28 | |
-I would put the reserve at £700. -Yeah. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
I shall be keeping everything crossed, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
we're going to get that top figure. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
So, off they went to auction, with high hopes. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
But could that damage bring the price crashing down? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
Lot number 180 is the Belleek Neptune tea service. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
There we go, in pearlescent glazes. Wonderful little lot, this. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
What shall we say? Who's going to start me at... Straight in at £400. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
450 now. 500. 550. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
600. 650. 700. 750. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
800. 850. 900. At 900, bid. 1,000, bid. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
1,100 now. 1,100. 1,100, bid. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
1,150. 1,200 now. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
-1,200, bid. -(David!) | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
1,200, bid. Any more now? We're going then. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Telephone bidder at £1,250. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
Yes! £1,250! That is a Flog It! moment! That's your first auction. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:20 | |
-How exciting was that? -Oh, yes! Look! | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
What a fantastic result! | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Belleek is one of those names that isn't widely known, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
but pieces of porcelain can turn a fantastic profit, even if | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
they're not in tip-top condition. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
This is one of these instances where damage doesn't matter | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
with pottery. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
To find perfect pieces is extremely rare. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
To find a perfect tea set is almost unheard of. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
So, a collector, a dealer, would be happy to buy items with damage | 0:06:51 | 0:06:57 | |
and to pay the premium, just to be able to have them. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
Of course, the British talent for creating beautifully unique | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
pieces is by no means confined to porcelain and pottery. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
And James had the good fortune to come across something quite | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
exceptional in Worcester. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-What a fantastic object. Do you know what it is? -No. -Not really, no. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
OK, it's a pewter charger and if we turn it over, we have a mark. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
In block capitals, it says, Tudric. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
Tudric always has a mark. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
Simply because Tudric was the trade name of Liberty Pewter, so if it | 0:07:33 | 0:07:39 | |
doesn't say Tudric on it, it's not Tudric, it's just Liberty Pewter. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
And then underneath, we have a four digit number - 0116. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
And that's the design number of this piece. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
Now, the earlier the design number, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
the more sought after it is, generally. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
And this is a really early design. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
It's going to be 1903, 1905, that sort of period. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
Now, there are two main designers that we think about | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
when we're looking at Tudric pewter of this period. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
The first one is Archibald Knox. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
And when we're looking at this, it just doesn't look, to me, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
like an Archibald Knox design. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
So then we have to look at other designers it could be | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
and one of those is a chap called Charles Voysey. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
Voysey was one of the great Arts & Crafts / Art Nouveau designers. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:31 | |
If you go to an architect school, they'll all know about Voysey. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
If you go to furniture makers. They'll know about Voysey. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
One of these characters that spreads across all the boundaries. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
It's been rubbed, it's been battered, it's been dented, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
-it's been dropped, so it's seen better days. -Oh, yes. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
-It's been polished. You should never polish pewter. -We haven't. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
That just shows you how long it takes for pewter to go back | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
to that colour again. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
This has been polished probably 40 years ago | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
and the patternation still hasn't come back. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Pewter collectors like to see it a nice dull grey colour, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
so in terms of Liberty Pewter, not polishing it is so important. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
It can reduce the value by 70-80%. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
Value, been trying to avoid this subject... £150-250. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
-It is a bit of a stab in the dark. -Yeah. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
And if it turns out to be by one of the important designers, it will make a lot more than that. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
Would polishing the pewter rub away any potential profit? | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
Lots of interest in this. I can go straight in at £450. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
-Fantastic. -It's a Voysey. £450, straight in. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
At 450. At 480. 500. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Oh, I feel faint. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
520. 550. 580 now? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
-580, I have on the phone. At 580. -I'm speechless. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
580, I have then. Selling, if you're all done... | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
At £580. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Crack! We love it! I knew this one would fly. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
What's not to love about a result like that? | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
Voysey may not be a household name in Britain, but it certainly | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
helped push the charger to dizzying heights in the saleroom. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
It wasn't a major shock to see it doing that sort of money. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Liberty and Tudric are names that you cannot better. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
Clarice Cliff is a regular guest on Flog It! | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
But in 2007, a lesser known female designer from the Potteries | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
stole the limelight. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
-Do you know what it is? -Charlotte Rhead. -Charlotte Rhead, yes. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
Now, Charlotte Rhead, I find her very, very interesting. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
The Rheads were a family who lived in North Staffordshire | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
and they had been associated with pottery since the 18th century. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:58 | |
I find the story of Charlotte Rhead very interesting. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
She came from a family of potters. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
She was born with clay running through her veins! | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
And I love the idea of that. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Now, she was born in 1885 and by the time it came to 1930, when she | 0:11:12 | 0:11:19 | |
was at her best, she was one of the leading ceramicists of that period. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
-Right. -But if we just look at the back stamp, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
it's always nice to see that beautiful signature. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:35 | |
When you think of the ceramicists who were working at that time, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
and there was a lot of marvellous things coming out of Britain, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
you think of people like Clarice Cliff and these wonderful, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
loud, jazzy, magical patterns, Charlotte Rhead was a little | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
more restrained, a little more traditional... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
Not all that traditional - she was an innovator in her own right, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
but a little more traditional than Clarice Cliff | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
and sometimes I think she's sort of put on the backburner | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
because of that, but there is a wonderful subtlety about her work. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
I would like to estimate in the region of £50-80. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:18 | |
-And we could perhaps put a reserve of £45 to protect it. -Yes. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:24 | |
One thing that had occurred to me, Molly, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
a jug usually has a handle...but it also has a spout. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:33 | |
-True! We never thought of that! -It was a jug cos it had a handle. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
It wasn't a vase because it didn't have two handles. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
But it didn't have a spout and it only occurred to me | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
just at the very end of the valuation. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
It brought a smile to my face. I thought, "What's this all about?" | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
The thing is, if it had been a mistake, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
she would not have signed it. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
So her signature is there and she has regarded | 0:12:57 | 0:13:03 | |
that as a complete item, so maybe she has a sense of humour! | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
Would the funny jug make serious money? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
Or would that missing spout pour cold water on Anita's estimate? | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
Will Axon was the man with the gavel on this one. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
And 400 is the Charlotte Rhead jug there for you. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
Where do you start me on that? £50 only for it. Thank you, straight in. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
At £50, I'm bid. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:32 | |
Straight in at £50. That's the way to buy it. 60. 70. 80. 90. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:38 | |
100. At £100. And ten, seated. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
At 110, seated. Bid at 110 now. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Steals it at 110. All done, then. Are you sure? I shall sell it. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
Hammer's up. Have you at 110. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Yes! You can't go wrong with that. That's what people want now. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
A respectable return for the jug. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
It goes to show that less famous British designers can | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
hold their own at auction. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
She may not be one of the names that most people have heard of. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
They've probably heard more of Clarice Cliff, Susie Cooper | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
and the such like, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
but in years to come, Charlotte Rhead will be a name that's | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
still bandied about, so if you do see some about, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
certainly worth having a go at. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:20 | |
In 2011, we found a great example of British | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
design at its sparkling best. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Charlie, for one, was blown away. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
Absolutely wonderful, Pauline. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
-Presumably, you know what you've got here, do you? -To a degree. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
-To a degree. You know it's a tea service. -Yes! | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
-And you know what it's made of? -Silver. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
This is made by Robert Hennell IV, 1874 in date. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
Right. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:49 | |
Robert Hennell is one of the great, great names in English silversmiths. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
We have this rather swirly gadrooning decoration on here, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
the bobbin decoration. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
-Very ornate. -It is. -Very Victorian. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
But I have to say, the oval Queen Anne style teapot rather | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
flies in the face of the decoration. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Although Victorian in its date, stylistically looks Georgian. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:18 | |
That wonderful teapot shape, you would think was George III. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
So perhaps it was influenced by his father, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
who was producing silver earlier, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
but it did have a certain gadroon decoration to it, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
which perhaps was a mixture of the Georgian more simplistic period, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
then with a little bit of fancy Victoriana applied to it. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
Now, I'm going to turn one of these pieces upside down. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
And what we have are all the elements that we would | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
expect to find. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
We have the lion passant - that simply tells you it's silver, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
the leopard's head - that tells you it was made in... | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-I was going to say London. -London is correct. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
And we've got a T letter date, which I have checked to 1874. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
And here we've got the magic initials, RH, Robert Hennell. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
Very much the best of British. Certainly, any silversmith... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
The eyebrows will be raised when you say Hennell. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
And there's a premium attached to that. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
And in addition to that, that mark, he put on to pieces that were | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
-specifically made to order for someone. -Right. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
So this was made for somebody pretty special. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
-Was it made for your family? -Oh, no! | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
The other thing that's going to tell you here... | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
This decoration, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
this engraving must have been put in at the same time as it was made. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
-Do you see? -Mm-hm. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
There's a gap in the floral engraving here to make | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
way for the lettering. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Fantastic quality. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
Value. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
I'm going to be sensible and say £500-800. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
But I think we'll probably end up at 800. And possibly a bit more. | 0:16:53 | 0:17:00 | |
Because it's not every day you can go to a saleroom and come | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
back with a bit of Robert Hennell, so I think it's sensational. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
Well, the tea set was sensational! | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
But would Robert Hennell's name bring the auction to the boil? | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
The Victorian three-piece silver tea service, Robert Hennell, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
nice little lot. We go straight in, £400. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
400. Take 20 now. 400. 420. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
At 420. 440. 460. 480. 500. 520. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
540. 560. 580. 600. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
At 600. 620. 640. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
650. 660. At 660. You're in? 680. 700. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
720. At £720 now. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
It's going in the room. 720. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
All done. At £720. Nobody else? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
-Well done. -Thank you. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
-£720. Happy? -Very. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
# I like a nice cup of tea in the morning | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
# To start the day, you see. # | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Well, that tea service certainly wasn't meant for your average | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
builder's brew. And what a treat, as Charlie said, to see | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
something of such quality on the show. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
We may not be familiar with the name Robert Hennell, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
as with other silversmiths, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
but his work is a great example of the very best of British. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
And if you want to get your own hands on a piece of British | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
design, here are our do's and don'ts. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
Watch out for items by less well known British artists and designers. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
You may find they're relatively affordable now, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
with potential for a hefty return in the future. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
Resist the temptation to clean or repair items before auction | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
because you could easily do more harm than good. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
And as we found with the wonderful Tudric charger, when it comes | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
to pewter, it's particularly important to steer clear of polish. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:53 | |
There is a proud history of cabinet making in Britain. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
Its most illustrious exponent was of course Thomas Chippendale who | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
practised his trade in St Martin's Lane, London, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
in the 18th century. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
There are thought to be around 600 very viable | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
examples of his work in the world today | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
and because of their rarity and the extremely high | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
quality of the workmanship, they are of course hugely valuable. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
You can see examples of Chippendale's work in several | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
of England's stately homes, including Harewood House in Leeds. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
Nearby Temple Newsam House also has a number of his pieces, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
including this desk. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
I caught up with in-house furniture expert Ian Fraser to learn more. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
-Ian, hello. -How do you do? | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
I couldn't come here to Temple Newsam without speaking to you | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
-and seeing this magnificent desk. -It's great, isn't it? | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
It really is the holy grail. How did it arrive here? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Well, Harewood House, when it was a private house, they sold it. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
I guess perhaps the Lordship needed the money, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
but it came up for auction in 1963 and it was acquired for | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
Leeds City Art Galleries for display at Temple Newsam House. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
It's got that country house, lived-in look. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
-It's lost a lot of the colour on the marquetry. -It has, inevitably. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
It's lost greens and reds, but I don't mind that. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
-Do you know what year this was made in? -I think it was 1772, I think. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
-Have you worked on this at all? -I have done some remedial works, yes. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
Lifting veneers, putting them back down. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
It was interesting because we were able to see | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
some of the original colours when we turned the veneers over. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
And do the drawers slide as beautifully as they did when they were made? | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Yes. You're welcome to try it if you like. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
-Pull one out for me, let's have a look. -We can try. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
-Yes, they do... -Let's have a look at the dovetail. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
I'll just take it out completely | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
and you can see the quality of the dovetail joint. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
-Yeah. -It's just outstanding quality. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
-Cut with a fine tenon saw. -Mm. -You're from Canada. -That's right. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
So, what do you think about Chippendale? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-Does he make the grade over there? -Oh, absolutely. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
The name of Thomas Chippendale is synonymous | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
with fine craftsmanship and design. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
It is incredible. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
Chippendale was not a man to guard his trade secrets jealously. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
Quite the opposite, in fact. In 1754 he published a book of his furniture | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
designs entitled The Gentleman And Cabinet Maker's Director. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
The book was instantly popular | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
and led to many faithful reproductions of his work. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
He was undoubtedly the master cabinet-maker of the age, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
but who, you may ask, are the unsung heroes of the period? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
Well, when I recently visited Syon house in Middlesex, I found | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
what can justifiably be described as a hidden gem. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
There are some names in English | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
cabinet-making that we are quite familiar with - Bullock, | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
Gillow, Chippendale, but have you heard of a chap called William Vile? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
He's one of the best kept secrets of English cabinet-making during | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
the 1700s, and this cabinet is made by his hand. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
He set up a workshop on the corner of St Martin's Lane | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
in Long Acre, right next to a chap called Thomas Chippendale. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
They were rivals, but you cannot set their work apart. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
There's no denying the quality of craftsmanship. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
You'd think that would be by Chippendale, but it's by Vile. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
Now, he went into partnership with a chap called John Cobb, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
another exceptional cabinet-maker, towards the end of his career, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
and it's at that particular stage, in the 1760s, for a few years, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
that they worked for none other than King George III - | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
they were the royal cabinet-makers. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Sadly, I think William Vile's works been overshadowed | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
by Thomas Chippendale, but I think this piece is exceptional. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
It's got architectural proportion and detail, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
it's got everything going for it. | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
And the price, well, this is so rare it's worth well over £1 million. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
Now, if I say to you British pottery, what springs to mind? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
Probably Staffordshire and the Potteries, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
the epicentre of the industry in this country for over 300 years. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
But there's a lot more to the best of British pottery than | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
the factories of Stoke-on-Trent. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
# We'll keep a welcome in the hillside... # | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
And pottery enthusiasts Catherine Southon and Mark Stacey | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
were keen to prove that very point when they visited Ewenny Pottery | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
in Wales, which has been run by the Jenkins family for generations. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
Catherine, I'm so excited, I'm going to meet Alun, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
who's going to show me the pottery side of things. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
Well, I believe that they've got a historic collection here, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
-and I really need to know a bit more about the history. -Oh, you do. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
Come on, let's get in there. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
Catherine caught up with Caitlin Jenkins, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
the latest in the long line of potters. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
I'd love to go right back in history to where it all started. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
Well, the earliest record of a pottery being here is 1427, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:14 | |
and this kind of thing would have been made then. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
So how did the Industrial Revolution affect the potteries? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
Well, first of all, in the mid-1800s, there was | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
an increase in the potteries, but that quickly declined | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
because other materials took hold, tinware in particular. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Later on, in the 1880s, the Arts and Crafts movement took hold, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
and there was one particular designer called Horace Elliot, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
and he designed pots for the potters to make. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
And what about this piece? Is this by him? | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Yes, we think this is a Horace Elliot. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
-Because it sort of screams that design. -That's right. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
And these are highly desirable, aren't they? | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
-Yes, very collectable now. -Right. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Did he sign his pieces? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
Yes, he did sign them and he also used a fleur-de-lis. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
So that's what we look out for - we look out for the name... | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
-Horace Elliott... -And the fleur-de-lis. -Yes. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
That's where we are going to make some money! | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
-This is a curious piece, Caitlin. What is this? -That's a wassail bowl. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
My family have been making them for 200 years, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
and they're a communal bowl that they filled with mulled beer | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
and cake and passed round when people came in. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
They are actually to celebrate the harvest, celebrate fertility. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
And I should think that if you found something like this, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
one of the older ones, they are highly desirable, really collectable. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
-Yes. I think one recently fetched £6,000. -Really? -In auction. -Wow. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:52 | |
Yeah, I can see that. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
So you signing all these pieces and dating them, Caitlin Jenkins, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:59 | |
that's going to be the collectable of the future. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
-That's what we look out for. -Yep, hopefully. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
-This is the beginning of the process. -That's right, yes. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
-What I'm doing first is centring the clay on the wheel. -Right. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
How long have you been doing this? | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
Well, I started as a child, through playing with the clay, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
but I've actually been working in the family business since 1969. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
I'm the seventh generation of the Jenkinses. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
Caitlin, my daughter, now is with me, she is the eighth. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
There's some fantastic footage, isn't there, of your father working. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
-Does that bring back any memories? -Oh, yes. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
We all learnt, really, how to use clay by playing with it. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
How many pots can you throw in the day, Alun? | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
These jugs, I would want to make about 60 to 70 in a day. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
60 or 70? | 0:26:53 | 0:26:54 | |
-Yes. -This is just the sort of basic. This is not glazing them and firing? | 0:26:54 | 0:27:00 | |
No, this is just the first stage. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
And each one of them, even though they look the same, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
there will be a difference, because it's handmade. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
It's all handmade, and the glazes the use are just splashed on, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
-so you'll never get two the same. -Which is the charm of it all. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
-That's right, yes. -What's left to do? | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
-I'll let this pot stand for about 24 hours. -Right. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
-And you just gently... -Yes, just ease the clay. There we are. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
Alun, you make it look so easy. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
-Can Catherine and I have a go, do you think? -Well, yes, of course. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
Right, come on, Catherine, let's get on with it. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
CATHERINE LAUGHS | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
-Oh...! -That's right. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
CATHERINE SHRIEKS | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
-If you rest your arms... -Rest my arms... | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
And keep on adding water. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:42 | |
-Has yours gone as well, Catherine? -No, mine's looking good already. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
-Keep on adding water. -Keep on adding water. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-Oh, Mark, yours is really good! -Shush! Don't spoil it. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
Yours is brilliant! | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
Oh, no! | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
Now this is looking good. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
I'm going to stop it! Oh, no... | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Make sure it doesn't go right to the bottom... | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
Oh, no, it's gone again! | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
Oh, no! | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
I think this is wonderful! I think this is a masterpiece. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Oh, I started off so well. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
-I think I've got a new career here. Are you jealous? -I am! But mine's... | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
mine's going to be an orchid. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
-Is it? -Yes, it's going to be an orchid vase. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
-Do you take apprentices? -Well, we're a bit choosy! | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
Thank you very much, Alun! | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Well, Mark and Catherine's efforts may not have made the grade, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
but genuine Ewenny pottery is collectable. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Horace Elliot pieces are so rare that they can make | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
thousands of pounds, and finding any older pieces in pristine | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
condition is so unusual they can therefore be very profitable. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:04 | |
On Flog It! in 2003, a pottery dog from Ewenny dated 1901, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:09 | |
sold for £600 despite being damaged. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
Are we all done at £600? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Yes! Fantastic. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
So although it's not as famous as other pottery, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
Ewenny is definitely one to watch. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Still to come on our tour of Britain's finest antiques - | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
£1,400 we're selling if you're all through. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
We'll take that! | 0:29:35 | 0:29:36 | |
A slice of history makes a king's ransom. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
Yes! 1,500. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
I explore an important chapter in the story of the cuppa. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:48 | |
This is fabulous. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:49 | |
And our experts prove that British eccentricity is alive and kicking. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
I think I'd rather sell my house than sell my cupboard. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
There's one thing that people who are not from the UK | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
think they know about, and that is the British character. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Fair play, the stiff upper lip, a sense of irony and, of course, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
the love of queueing. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
But what is the British character? | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
And how is that encapsulated in the antiques | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
and the collectables that we Brits so love? | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
Well, here are our experts musing on which collectables | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
sum up our national character and pull in a profit at auction. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
The British love their gardening, don't they? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
So anything to do with gardening - gardening antiques, benches, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
planters, that sort of thing - they always sell well. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Flags, medals, commemorative. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
Nostalgia - we are good nostalgia in this country. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
We like things that remind us of where we come from | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
and our childhood. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
And of course anything to do with our royal family. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
We've always been very inclusive, I like to think, and very welcoming. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
And because of that I think we've got a richer society for it. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
And a richer society, I think, produces richer results. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
We Brits all love a good yarn, and in 2005 Charlie found | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
an item with a fascinating story that was quite literally behind it. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
I think of all the things I've done on Flog It! over the years, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:27 | |
this is my favourite. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
It's got everything. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
-Do you know who this is? -No, I don't. -Well, I didn't. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
I hadn't got a clue who he was. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
I thought the artist looked familiar, the style of it. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:40 | |
It's very well painted and it's got some really fascinating | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
writing on the back. What have you deemed from it? | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
I just got the name of the artist, who I thought it was, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:53 | |
which was George Morland. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:54 | |
George Morland. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
Who was a famous alcoholic, but a very, very good painter. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
I thought I could tell this was by Morland when I saw the picture. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
I was rather praying it was by him. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
But the great thing was, when you turned it over there was this | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
wonderful writing on the back which told you everything about it. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
How often can you find that with a picture? It's very rare. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
It starts here. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
"This is the portrait of the late Mr Thomas Moore, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
"who established the booking office and tavern about the year | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
"of 1760 called the Green Man and Still, Oxford Street, London." | 0:32:28 | 0:32:34 | |
-Isn't that fantastic? -It is. -And it goes on to say... | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
that George Morland stayed there, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
and when it came for the time to leave, the landlord said, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
"If you can't pay, paint a picture of me and the missus and we'll let you go." | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
Pub memorabilia is quite collectable nowadays, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
but no way could this be called pub memorabilia. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
This was, is, a work of art. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
It's a painting by a great artist done through force of circumstances. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
Now, this artist has made pictures, you know, 10,000, 20,000 - | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
a serious artist. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
-But this is more of a sketch, really. -Yes. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
-It's got some damage. -Yes. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
But as much of the value is attributable to | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
the history of it as the painting itself. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
We'll estimate it at 300 to 500, but it's the sort of thing, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
given the history, that might be a bit of a flyer. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
You never know. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
Charlie loved it, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
but would the painting's incredible back story really help it take off? | 0:33:28 | 0:33:34 | |
Watch this, here we go. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
The attributed to George Morland study. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
300 quid. 300 I'm bid. 300. 320. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
350. 380. 400. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
420. 450. 480. 500. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
The painting got off to a flying start, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
but no-one was quite prepared for what happened next. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
950. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:55 | |
1,000 here. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
1,050. At 1,050. 1,100. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
-At 1,100. -We're getting there, aren't we? | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
1,150 down here. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:05 | |
1,200. 1,300. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
1,400. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:09 | |
1,500. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
At £1,500. I sell here at £1,500... | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
Yes! 1,500. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
-Wow! -That's three times the top estimate. -That's good. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
They DID like it! | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
What an amazing painting! | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
It's fair to say that the British love of drink has rarely | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
produced such a tragic yet fascinating story. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
There's no doubt that the information that came with | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
the picture helped hugely with the sale of it. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
Now it's an emotive topic, but fox hunting has been | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
part of British life for centuries, and whatever you may think of it, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
over the years it has generated its fair share of collectables. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
You've brought along a real political hot potato today. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
-That's right. -Is that why you want to get rid of them? | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
No. That isn't the main reason, although I'm not keen on fox hunting. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:09 | |
Are these yours or did you inherit them? | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
I inherited them from my mum. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
-And did your mum buy them new? -Yeah. Yeah, she did. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
-Was she a hunting fan? -No, I think she was just a Beswick fan. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
If Beswick produced one horse, they must have produced hundreds. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
And the thing that makes one horse different from another, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
is the different colourways. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
So you can have a variation on a theme. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
I'm sure they didn't do one, but if they did a pink horse, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
I'm sure that'd be worth a fortune. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
-I can immediately see a few problems. -Yeah. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
This little girl on a pony has clearly lost her head, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
and it's been glued back on at some time. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
And our foxy friend here has been too close to the hounds cos | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
he's lost his tail. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:53 | |
And that's been glued back on at one point in time. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
-And also his leg as well. -That's right. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
So we've got bits of damage. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
I think we can put an auction estimate on of £500-£800. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
-Right, OK. -And we'll reserve them at probably £400/£450. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
-450 with some discretion on it. -Right. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
There are ardent Beswick collectors out there, and if they haven't got | 0:36:10 | 0:36:16 | |
something that they need to complete their collection and it comes | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
up at auction, they just stand there and they bid and they bid. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
And then they bid again. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
Isn't that great? | 0:36:25 | 0:36:26 | |
Move onto lot 398, is 11 Beswick hunting figures. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
A lot of interest in this lot. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:31 | |
Bids allow us to start right away at £600. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
That's good. We'll take that. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
620. 640. 660. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
680. 700. 750. 800. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
800 there. 850. 900. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
950. 975. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
1,050. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
1,100. 1,150. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
1,200. 1,250. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
1,300. 1,350. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
1,400. 1,450. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
At £1,400. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
1,450 willing? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
£1,400 - we're selling if you're all through... | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
-We'll take that - £1,400. -Brilliant. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
You've got to be so pleased with that. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
Yeah, I am. That's brilliant. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
That is the definition of a runaway success. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
But would an auction room be swept away in the same way today? | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
In this business, any price that goes like that, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
will sure as hell go like that. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
What you want is a nice steady increase in prices. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
You don't want things going like that. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
The Beswick market, perhaps, when we filmed this piece, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
it was through the roof. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:36 | |
I don't think that little hunting group would make as much | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
today as it did then. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
Our valuation day at London Zoo in 2012, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
saw all manner of interesting lots come trotting our way. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
Including a foxy piece of British silver for Will. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
Carrie and Chloe, welcome to Flog It! In this great location. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
Is this something that you've had, or...? | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
It's my dad's. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
-We've nicked it from his house today. -I hope he knows about it. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
He's given us permission. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
OK. Tell me, do you know what it is? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
When they used to go out hunting for foxes, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
they used to stop and have their drinks. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
Yeah, you're dead right. They call them stirrup cups. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
People who hunted, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
certainly those in the red blazers on the horses, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
would often have accessories - flasks, sandwich boxes, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
even their boots, everything would be made to a very high standard. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:32 | |
Because they well wealthy, they were able to buy very good made pieces. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Typically, a stirrup cup doesn't have a base or a handle, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
so people think, "What's the good of that?" | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
You're going to put your sherry in it and it's going to spill. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
But if I cunningly turn it over... | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
-Look at that - it's great, isn't it? -Yeah. -Nice piece of design. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
So the two ears and the nose form a tripod base. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
Cheers! And down it goes. Down the sherry and off they go. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
I've had a look at it - while these were | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
made from sort of 1770 onwards, this is a more modern example. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
This is from the 1970s. Yeah? So, if we have a look at the hallmarks, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
cos even though it's not antique, all silver should carry | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
the hallmarks, and we can see here, we've got the Sheffield Assay mark. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:13 | |
We've still got the sterling lion mark. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
And then we've got the date letter here for 1972. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
So you say your dad bought it - where did he get it from? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
-A fair, or...? -Yeah, I think so, yeah. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
-Quite a while ago. -What did he pay for it? | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
He says about 100, or something. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
OK, so he's done all right, 100, or something... | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
He can't really remember cos it was a while ago. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
It was a while ago, was it? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:34 | |
-Yeah. -Cos I think 200-300 is a spot-on estimate for this. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
-What do you think, Chloe? -Yeah. -It's a lot of money, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
The stirrup cup was quirkily British, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
but could it race ahead of the pack at auction? | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
The stirrup cup with the foxes head. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
There we go. £150 to start. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
-Surely... -150 I'm bid. 160. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
170. 180. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
190. 190. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
200 there. 210. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
220. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
Looks like a commission bidder. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
250. 260. 270. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
280. 290. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
300. 320. 340. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
Shaking his head. 340 here. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
Anybody else want to come in? | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
Good thing. 340. 360. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
-360 there. -Show me the fox! -360. Anybody else? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
360... | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
I'm happy with that. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
That's a very good result, isn't it? | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
So neither its hunting connections | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
nor it's age held our little fox back. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
I know the piece wasn't antique, so people will probably be shouting | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
at the telly, "You can't have that on Flog It! It's not an antique!" | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
But listen, it's an antique of the future. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
It may have been made in the '70s, but the quality was still there. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
In 2012, the unflappable Thomas stumbled across what many of us | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
would consider a national treasure. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
Let's show the people... | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
This is a big flag, isn't it? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
-It is. -What's the story behind this? | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
Well, it belonged to my father. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
When he died, we found it all in his belongings. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
-And your father, was he in the scouts? Was he in the military? -No. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
He helped in the fire brigade in the war, in the Second World War. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
I think that this may have come from his granny that | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
-lived in the local village. -People sometimes call it the Union Jack, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
-but the right name is the Union Flag, isn't it? -That's right, yes. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
-And we are holding it the right way, aren't we? -We are, yeah. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
Because of the thick white band at the top, where you've got your toggle. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
He's a little bit moth eaten here, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
but I think somebody can forgive that. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
I think it's probably almost like a coronation flag, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
for maybe a village, village church or even a scout group. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
And, of course, we've recently seen a lot of these around the country. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
The Union Flag has now become part of our psyche again. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:55 | |
I thoroughly believe with Cool Britannia, with the Olympics, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
all the celebrations with the Golden and Diamond Jubilees, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
that Britain has regained the flag. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
So, why did you bring it along? | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Well, it's been tucked in a box in that attic, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
and I thought it wasn't very good being up there, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
so I thought the world needs to see it, don't they? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
Well, they do need to see it. Have you got any idea of value? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
-No idea whatsoever. -And do you mind about the value, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
or do you just want it to go to a good home? | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
I'd like it to be displayed somehow - I don't know how, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
rather than in the attic. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
I think I'd put around £50-£80 on it. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
Not a huge mount of money, but I think we'd reserve it roundabout 30. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:38 | |
-How does that grab you? -Can we not reserve it at 40? | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
Well, we can do it at 40. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
Listen to you! £40, we'll do that at 40. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
The only reason, I was just going on try | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
and give it the best chance possible. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
But that's fine - we'll do it at £40. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
-It's got a good chance cos it is quite a big flag. -Yeah, it is. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
And the colours are so strong. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
So Thomas needed a room full of patriotic bidders, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
or the flag would be left fluttering at half-mast. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
There you are - the Union Jack. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
Fine flag, that one. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:08 | |
150 or 60 or 70? I've got it - 80 I'm bid now. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
90. Are you going to be the £100, sir? | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
£100 we're bid for it. Thank you very much. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
That's good. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:18 | |
120. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
Oh, my lord. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:21 | |
130 I'm bid now. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
Madam, keep going? No? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:25 | |
OK then. I sell at £130. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
£130 - sold. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
-Good result. -That's brilliant. -Amazing. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
Yes, we did put the great back in Britain! | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
What a triumph and an example of how collectors will snap up items | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
that are emblematic of Britain. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
I was surprised - it raced away at £130. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
And Isobel pushed me on reserve as well. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
No, she didn't want 30, she wanted a £40 reserve - it didn't matter. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
As we saw earlier, | 0:43:58 | 0:43:59 | |
there's a fine tradition of cabinet making in this country, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
so we're always pleased | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
when a bit of quality British furniture comes our way. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
Ian and Joanna, I've got to tell you, I think it's absolutely lovely. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
This has got everything going for it, in my eyes. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
It's a lovely piece of 18th century, oak, rustic, country furniture. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:20 | |
The cabinet's made of oak, oak's indigenous to our shores, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
so that's why it sells well, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
cos it's going to sit beautifully in someone's little cottage. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
Now this is dentil moulding along here. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
It's got a lovely colour here - | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
we can see these lovely medullary rays here of the oak. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
Brass escutcheon there. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
Open it up and let's see what we can find in here. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
Look at those lovely old shelves. Really quite primitive. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
And if you think about it, someone's taken some trouble to do that. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
Because you're not going to see these shelves, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
so the easiest thing to do is make them straight-fronted. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
But someone's just take the trouble to give them that shape. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
I think it's lovely. I really do think it's lovely. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
The most important thing about any piece of furniture is the colour. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
And the colour is patina. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
It looks like a bit of chewed toffee, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
it's the lines on its hands, it's the wrinkles on its face. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
All patination is, is 100 years of muck and grime that's been polished. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
And this has just been a functional cupboard. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
And you rub your hands over it, and the grease off your hands | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
goes into the timber and gives it that lovely glow. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
It's just absolutely glorious. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
There are a few faults with it. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
If we just... | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
have a look just here. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
Can you see there? We're missing a bit of the moulding. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
And if we look along just here, this moulding is also replaced. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:41 | |
I think, in auction, you could put an estimate on it of £300-£500. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
And I'm sure it'll sell. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
I mean, there are oak collectors who would really want to own this. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
Owner Joanna couldn't make it to the auction, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
but her husband Ian joined me and Philip, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:58 | |
who was still smitten by the wonderful patination. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
You were saying you're selling it cos you can't get it in the house. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
I'd rather sell my house than that cupboard. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
-It's just lovely. -Here we go. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
Wonderful colour to that. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
I have several bids on this - | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
I have got started at £380. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
380 is with me. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:20 | |
400, sir. I'm out. 420. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
450. 480. 500. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
520. £520. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
At 520 and selling at 520. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
-Brilliant. -Yeah, very good. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
-It's was good, wasn't it? -Yeah. Yes, so you were right. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
Well, it's my business. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
The oak cabinet really did conjure up images of the British | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
country cottage. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
And its great selling price is proof of the pulling power of patination. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
You can't replicate 200 years of patina. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
You can't make it tomorrow. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
It's something that's occurred over the whole of its lifetime. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
It's its passport, and you can't forge that. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
I hope our trip through the best of British has evoked | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
a little of the national character for you. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
If you'd like to continue on our voyage of discovery | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
through the world of antiques, here are some pointers on how to | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
appeal to some of British of individuals - the avid collector. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
Items of quality that are only 30 or 40 years old, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
can still make money at auction. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
Always be aware that markets fluctuate, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
so be prepared for prices to go down as well as up. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
This is especially true of items made from precious metal, | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
because their value is affected | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
by the ever-changing price of gold and silver. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
A portrait's profitability or obviously | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
dependant on the artist who painted it, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
but the sitter can also put the price up. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
So if you come across a work you like, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
do your research on both painter and subject. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
And remember, that antique furniture should wear its age with pride. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
Patina is of primary importance to collectors, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
so don't ever be tempted to sand or varnish a piece of history away. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:24 | |
Sports and sporting memorabilia will always have a special | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
place in the British heart. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
Adam, for one, is a fan. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
I'm quite interested in sports memorabilia, specifically | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
cricket and boxing - I quite enjoy playing or fighting, I suppose. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:44 | |
And this is one of my pieces here - it's a | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
signed boxing glove from one of my favourites from childhood, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
Nigel Benn, known as the Dark Destroyer. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
We come across a lot of these things in charity auctions, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
sporting auctions, things like that. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
Quite a lot of them are signed. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
They're fairly limited in value - | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
I think I paid about £50 for this. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
I don't suppose it's worth a great deal more. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
But if you're going to be collecting sports memorabilia, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
make sure you pick those major names of their period, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
and Nigel Benn was the fighter of his decade. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
So that's why it's a good thing to own. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
I've got a few others- Frank Bruno, Naseem Hamed, etc cetera. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
I've got about eight or ten. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
I also go boxing myself, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:26 | |
and I go training down at a gym in Stoke-On-Trent, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
with all the big boys, who generally, give me a good beating. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
What better way to get over a stressful day than to have a | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
scrap at the end of the day? | 0:49:36 | 0:49:37 | |
Great, for me. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
It is truly inspiring to see the work of | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
so many great British designers and craftsmen on the show today. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
I was on the trail of another great British innovator | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
when I visited Moseley Old Hall in Staffordshire in 2010. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
The hall itself is famous as the hiding place of Charles II | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
after the Battle Of Worcester in 1651. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
In the 20th century, it was bought by a man called William Wiggin. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
The Wiggin family later sold the property | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
to the National Trust for just £1. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
However, Moseley Old Hall isn't the only legacy William has left us. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
His family were the first to introduce | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
and make stainless steel items in the world. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
I'm here with Nigel Wiggin, the grandson of William, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
and I've got to say, your grandfather was quite a chap. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
Yes, he did his contribution. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
But he was basically an industrialist, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
developing stainless steel tableware. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
William's father and his eldest son, both called James, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
started J&J Wiggan, a blacksmith business in 1853. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
They made mostly belt buckles | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
and stirrups for the horse-drawn community, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
but after the First World War, | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
William decided to diversify and move the company forward. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
He'd heard about Staybrite Steel. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
It was a complete new material that didn't rust. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:09 | |
He bought some Staybrite from Sheffield, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
and we started making bathroom fittings. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
It got us a very good hold in the marketplace. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
The real start of tableware... | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
-Teapots, I guess! -Teapots. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
Everyone wants a cup of tea, don't they? | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
Yes. And the person who realised that was my grandmother. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:31 | |
1928 was their silver wedding - this is William and Nelly, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:36 | |
and they were given a lot of silverware. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
And my grandmother suggested to my grandfather that he | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
might like to give her a hand with the cleaning. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
And the response to that was, "No." | 0:51:48 | 0:51:53 | |
And as a result of that, they came up with the amazing idea, | 0:51:53 | 0:52:00 | |
"Why don't you make some silverware out of Staybrite?" | 0:52:00 | 0:52:05 | |
And that started the world's stainless steel tableware industry. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:10 | |
Nobody else thought of it. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
The toast rack was the every first thing we made. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
And you've got that here, haven't you? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
-We've got it here. -Which one is it? | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
It's this one here, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
which is, as far as we are aware, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
the world's very first item of stainless steel tableware. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:29 | |
She said, "You must make a teapot." | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
And it's this one here. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:32 | |
That is 1930. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
The aspect about that was that we couldn't make a teapot. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
It's such a difficult metal to work with, | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
and my grandmother came up with an idea, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:46 | |
which is based on this shape here. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
And the answer is, you bend it round like that and there's your spout. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:54 | |
It needs a disc in the bottom, needs a handle on, but that is how... | 0:52:54 | 0:52:59 | |
A single piece of metal. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:00 | |
A single piece of metal and that is how... | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
Do you know what they say which is totally right? | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
Behind every good man, there's a good woman. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
-She was obviously the brains. -She was on the ball. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
The company grew from strength to strength | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
until the Second World War started, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
when the factory was turned over to ammunition production. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
But then, when the war was over, in the 1950s, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
the Old Hall brand took off again. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
1955, we took on board a student from the Royal College Of Art, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:33 | |
called Robert Welsh. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:34 | |
Now he was studying to be a silversmith. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
But his thesis, in fact, was for designing stainless steel. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:41 | |
And he contacted us for some help. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
When he got his degree, we asked him | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
if he'd like to be our consultant designer. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
-And he started designing for you. -And he started designing... | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
Is this his work? | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
This is so recognisable as different to the Wiggin designs. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
It's so obvious! | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
This is '64. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:01 | |
I've got to say, this is fabulous. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
Well, it is the most collectable item of all. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
I think, when we closed down in 1984, we' made about 1,500 of these, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:12 | |
-so there aren't many around. -That's a collectable then? | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
That is, undoubtedly, collectable. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
Old Hall was the wedding present of the '60s. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
I think that's an accolade - the wedding present of the '60s. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
It meant every couple had one. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
You can't go wrong there. What was the demise? What happened? | 0:54:26 | 0:54:30 | |
Cheap imported stainless steel tableware. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
Nothing like Old Hall in terms of quality, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
but about a third of the price. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
We started having to shrink and shrink, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
so we had to close the works in 1984. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
Which is a sad day for you. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
The worst day of my life, Paul, there's no doubt. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
You still out buying this stuff? | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
It's popping up at car boots, it's popping up at charity shops. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
If that popped up at a collectors fair, what would you pay for that? | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
They pop up so infrequently - £250. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:06 | |
Nigel, thank you so much for sharing your life story with me | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
and a great family you belong to as well. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
Pleasure, Paul. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
British craftsmanship's world-renowned, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
and it finds its way to the four corners of the globe, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
as Will Axon discovered when he met up with Martina at a valuation | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
day in Portsmouth back in 2012. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
Martina, I can tell from your accent that you're not from these | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
parts originally, are you? | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
You're right, Well, I'm originally from Germany, | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
but have lived in the UK since 1984. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
What are you going to do with the money? | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
Are you going to visit the family? | 0:55:46 | 0:55:47 | |
No. We've actually just bought a 1988 Chevrolet Camaro. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
It does need some work doing... | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
-A bit of TLC. -A lot of TLC. -So the money's going towards that? | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
It's going to help. | 0:55:57 | 0:55:58 | |
And this, of course, is English - we can tell by the hallmarks. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
We've got Sheffield, 1910. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
Where's this come from? | 0:56:03 | 0:56:04 | |
-I actually inherited this from my godparents. -OK. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
Who lived in Duisburg in Germany | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
and were avid collectors of anything British. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:15 | |
English silver is far superior to the continental. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
It was always something that I admired. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
I see inside some old paint splashes. Where have they come from? | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
I'm guilty there - it's actually been used to store brushes. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
-Paint brushes? -Paint brushes. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
I'm a bit embarrassed to say I did use it as a paint cleaning holder. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:39 | |
Listen, I think, at auction, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
you should be looking at around the £200 mark. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
So Martina sped off to auction, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:46 | |
hopeful that selling the British-made family silver | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
would put a little extra va-va-voom into her car restoration project. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
Lot 460 is a two-handed silver loving cup. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:00 | |
Sheffield. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:01 | |
Start me at 150. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
-150 I have. -We're in - 150. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
£150. 160. 170. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
180. 190. 200. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
190 in the middle here. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
Is there 200? | 0:57:12 | 0:57:13 | |
At £190 we are selling. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
At £190, and if you're all done... | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
Very last time... | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
Just £190 - it's gone. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
After the auction, motor-mad Martina threw out her restoration plans | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
and bought a new car instead! | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
And this, even has a name. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
The first time we saw the Dragon Wagon was on eBay, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
so we made a ridiculous offer and the lady called us half an hour | 0:57:45 | 0:57:51 | |
later to say, "If you come with the cash, you could have it." | 0:57:51 | 0:57:56 | |
It is a head-turner. | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
It catches your eye | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
and it's quite amazing how many comments you actually get | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
when you park it up on the drive. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
It does boost your ego, obviously, as well. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
But the main thing is, we have met so many nice people, such a | 0:58:10 | 0:58:15 | |
variety of people, who are interested in the same things that we are. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:20 | |
It's not just a car. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:21 | |
It's always a pleasure to learn that | 0:58:27 | 0:58:28 | |
Flog It! has helped somebody indulge their passion. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
Well, that's it for today's show, but do remember | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
if you have any antiques you want to sell, you know where to find us. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:39 | |
Join me again soon for more trade secrets. | 0:58:39 | 0:58:42 |