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It's been well over a decade since we first opened our doors to

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a Flog It! valuation day, and during that time,

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we've travelled the length and the breadth of the British Isles,

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valuing and selling your unwanted antiques and collectibles.

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-This is the nicest thing I've seen all day.

-1,550.

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Yes!

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And we've all learned a great deal about the items that have

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passed through our hands and now,

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I want to share some of that information with you.

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So stand by to hear our experts' trade secrets.

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For a small country,

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Britain has historically punched well above its weight

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and for centuries, our history and culture has influenced nations

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and people all across the globe.

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And today, our antiques are highly sought after worldwide.

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So today, we're celebrating the very best of British.

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We've got a programme that's brimming with patriotic punch...

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Telephone bidder at £1,250.

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Yes! £1,250! That is a Flog It! moment!

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Very much the best of British.

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..peppered with good old fashioned mystery...

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A jug usually has a handle, but it also has a spout.

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..and overflowing with great British humour.

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Oh, no! I've made a walnut whip!

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-Oh, no!

-THEY LAUGH

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I dare say from watching Flog It!, you're quite familiar with

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some of the famous makers and masters of the antiques world.

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Names like Wedgewood, Whitefriars, Clarice Cliff...

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We see a lot of their work

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on the show and it often sells for a small fortune.

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But what about the lesser known designers

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and makers whose work deserves more attention,

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whose work is somewhat under the radar?

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If you look for artefacts which smack strongly of a region's history...

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So, for example, I work in East Anglia at the moment, so what

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would come to mind would be Lowestoft porcelain or Mendlesham chairs.

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If you can afford or are looking to buy a nice silver teaspoon,

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you might get one for £10 at auction.

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But if there's a Hester Bateman one in the same sale,

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it'll cost you £15 or £16, but go for that one instead.

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So do go for the names, if you possibly can.

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Look at people around now, current artists,

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that are making really distinctive things.

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Not just in silver or pottery,

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but in creation of any kind of sculpture or painting.

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Now, if you thought that valuable pottery on these islands

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came solely from Staffordshire, think again!

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In 2003, the late great David Barby came across an unsung gem

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from 'cross the Irish Sea.

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This is one of the most exciting things that's been brought in today.

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-Have you always treasured it? Has it always been on display?

-No.

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-I've used the tray.

-On the dressing table?

-No, no, no.

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I used to put the turkey on it every Christmas

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because it was the biggest plate I had.

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I'm sure the manufacturers that produced this exquisite

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service did not expect it to be used as a turkey platter!

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Thomas Plant is also a fan of this kind of fine porcelain.

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The story was the lady would put her turkey on the

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tray at Christmas time.

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I'm surprised it stayed in one piece!

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Now, it was produced in County Fermanagh, which is

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Northern Ireland, by a company called Belleek.

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I can tell exactly what period this was made by the mark.

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Now, the mark at the bottom here, as you can see, has a small dog.

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Underneath, the inscription, County Fermanagh, Ireland.

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Now, that will tell me two things.

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First of all, 1891,

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when the McKinley Tariff Act came in and it stated everything that

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was imported into America had to have the place of origin.

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-That was followed through all over Europe.

-Yes.

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And 1891 also, they changed it from just putting Belleek

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underneath to putting County Fermanagh.

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Normally, the decoration is a pink colour.

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But I like this delicate blue.

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Belleek is so fragile, it's so thin.

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It's some of the thinnest porcelain we make in the British Isles.

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We have this lid here, which has a crack, breakage,

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and part of the shell missing, but you only have three plates.

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-Is the fourth one missing? Is that broken?

-Yes.

-It's broken.

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The thing about Belleek, it's so very, very thin.

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When it does damage, it damages very quickly, very easily.

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Perfect pieces are so rare.

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-I would put a value of between £800-1,200.

-Oh!

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-I would put the reserve at £700.

-Yeah.

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I shall be keeping everything crossed,

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we're going to get that top figure.

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So, off they went to auction, with high hopes.

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But could that damage bring the price crashing down?

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Lot number 180 is the Belleek Neptune tea service.

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There we go, in pearlescent glazes. Wonderful little lot, this.

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What shall we say? Who's going to start me at... Straight in at £400.

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450 now. 500. 550.

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600. 650. 700. 750.

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800. 850. 900. At 900, bid. 1,000, bid.

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1,100 now. 1,100. 1,100, bid.

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1,150. 1,200 now.

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-1,200, bid.

-(David!)

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1,200, bid. Any more now? We're going then.

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Telephone bidder at £1,250.

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Yes! £1,250! That is a Flog It! moment! That's your first auction.

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-How exciting was that?

-Oh, yes! Look!

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What a fantastic result!

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Belleek is one of those names that isn't widely known,

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but pieces of porcelain can turn a fantastic profit, even if

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they're not in tip-top condition.

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This is one of these instances where damage doesn't matter

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with pottery.

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To find perfect pieces is extremely rare.

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To find a perfect tea set is almost unheard of.

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So, a collector, a dealer, would be happy to buy items with damage

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and to pay the premium, just to be able to have them.

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Of course, the British talent for creating beautifully unique

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pieces is by no means confined to porcelain and pottery.

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And James had the good fortune to come across something quite

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exceptional in Worcester.

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-What a fantastic object. Do you know what it is?

-No.

-Not really, no.

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OK, it's a pewter charger and if we turn it over, we have a mark.

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In block capitals, it says, Tudric.

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Tudric always has a mark.

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Simply because Tudric was the trade name of Liberty Pewter, so if it

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doesn't say Tudric on it, it's not Tudric, it's just Liberty Pewter.

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And then underneath, we have a four digit number - 0116.

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And that's the design number of this piece.

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Now, the earlier the design number,

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the more sought after it is, generally.

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And this is a really early design.

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It's going to be 1903, 1905, that sort of period.

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Now, there are two main designers that we think about

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when we're looking at Tudric pewter of this period.

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The first one is Archibald Knox.

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And when we're looking at this, it just doesn't look, to me,

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like an Archibald Knox design.

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So then we have to look at other designers it could be

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and one of those is a chap called Charles Voysey.

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Voysey was one of the great Arts & Crafts / Art Nouveau designers.

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If you go to an architect school, they'll all know about Voysey.

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If you go to furniture makers. They'll know about Voysey.

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One of these characters that spreads across all the boundaries.

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It's been rubbed, it's been battered, it's been dented,

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-it's been dropped, so it's seen better days.

-Oh, yes.

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-It's been polished. You should never polish pewter.

-We haven't.

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That just shows you how long it takes for pewter to go back

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to that colour again.

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This has been polished probably 40 years ago

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and the patternation still hasn't come back.

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Pewter collectors like to see it a nice dull grey colour,

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so in terms of Liberty Pewter, not polishing it is so important.

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It can reduce the value by 70-80%.

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Value, been trying to avoid this subject... £150-250.

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-It is a bit of a stab in the dark.

-Yeah.

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And if it turns out to be by one of the important designers, it will make a lot more than that.

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Would polishing the pewter rub away any potential profit?

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Lots of interest in this. I can go straight in at £450.

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-Fantastic.

-It's a Voysey. £450, straight in.

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At 450. At 480. 500.

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Oh, I feel faint.

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520. 550. 580 now?

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-580, I have on the phone. At 580.

-I'm speechless.

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580, I have then. Selling, if you're all done...

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At £580.

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Crack! We love it! I knew this one would fly.

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What's not to love about a result like that?

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Voysey may not be a household name in Britain, but it certainly

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helped push the charger to dizzying heights in the saleroom.

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It wasn't a major shock to see it doing that sort of money.

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Liberty and Tudric are names that you cannot better.

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Clarice Cliff is a regular guest on Flog It!

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But in 2007, a lesser known female designer from the Potteries

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stole the limelight.

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-Do you know what it is?

-Charlotte Rhead.

-Charlotte Rhead, yes.

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Now, Charlotte Rhead, I find her very, very interesting.

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The Rheads were a family who lived in North Staffordshire

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and they had been associated with pottery since the 18th century.

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I find the story of Charlotte Rhead very interesting.

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She came from a family of potters.

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She was born with clay running through her veins!

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And I love the idea of that.

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Now, she was born in 1885 and by the time it came to 1930, when she

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was at her best, she was one of the leading ceramicists of that period.

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-Right.

-But if we just look at the back stamp,

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it's always nice to see that beautiful signature.

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When you think of the ceramicists who were working at that time,

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and there was a lot of marvellous things coming out of Britain,

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you think of people like Clarice Cliff and these wonderful,

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loud, jazzy, magical patterns, Charlotte Rhead was a little

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more restrained, a little more traditional...

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Not all that traditional - she was an innovator in her own right,

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but a little more traditional than Clarice Cliff

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and sometimes I think she's sort of put on the backburner

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because of that, but there is a wonderful subtlety about her work.

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I would like to estimate in the region of £50-80.

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-And we could perhaps put a reserve of £45 to protect it.

-Yes.

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One thing that had occurred to me, Molly,

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a jug usually has a handle...but it also has a spout.

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-True! We never thought of that!

-It was a jug cos it had a handle.

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It wasn't a vase because it didn't have two handles.

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But it didn't have a spout and it only occurred to me

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just at the very end of the valuation.

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It brought a smile to my face. I thought, "What's this all about?"

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The thing is, if it had been a mistake,

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she would not have signed it.

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So her signature is there and she has regarded

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that as a complete item, so maybe she has a sense of humour!

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Would the funny jug make serious money?

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Or would that missing spout pour cold water on Anita's estimate?

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Will Axon was the man with the gavel on this one.

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And 400 is the Charlotte Rhead jug there for you.

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Where do you start me on that? £50 only for it. Thank you, straight in.

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At £50, I'm bid.

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Straight in at £50. That's the way to buy it. 60. 70. 80. 90.

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100. At £100. And ten, seated.

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At 110, seated. Bid at 110 now.

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Steals it at 110. All done, then. Are you sure? I shall sell it.

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Hammer's up. Have you at 110.

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Yes! You can't go wrong with that. That's what people want now.

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A respectable return for the jug.

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It goes to show that less famous British designers can

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hold their own at auction.

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She may not be one of the names that most people have heard of.

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They've probably heard more of Clarice Cliff, Susie Cooper

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and the such like,

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but in years to come, Charlotte Rhead will be a name that's

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still bandied about, so if you do see some about,

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certainly worth having a go at.

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In 2011, we found a great example of British

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design at its sparkling best.

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Charlie, for one, was blown away.

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Absolutely wonderful, Pauline.

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-Presumably, you know what you've got here, do you?

-To a degree.

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-To a degree. You know it's a tea service.

-Yes!

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-And you know what it's made of?

-Silver.

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This is made by Robert Hennell IV, 1874 in date.

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Right.

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Robert Hennell is one of the great, great names in English silversmiths.

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We have this rather swirly gadrooning decoration on here,

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the bobbin decoration.

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-Very ornate.

-It is.

-Very Victorian.

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But I have to say, the oval Queen Anne style teapot rather

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flies in the face of the decoration.

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Although Victorian in its date, stylistically looks Georgian.

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That wonderful teapot shape, you would think was George III.

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So perhaps it was influenced by his father,

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who was producing silver earlier,

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but it did have a certain gadroon decoration to it,

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which perhaps was a mixture of the Georgian more simplistic period,

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then with a little bit of fancy Victoriana applied to it.

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Now, I'm going to turn one of these pieces upside down.

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And what we have are all the elements that we would

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expect to find.

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We have the lion passant - that simply tells you it's silver,

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the leopard's head - that tells you it was made in...

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-I was going to say London.

-London is correct.

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And we've got a T letter date, which I have checked to 1874.

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And here we've got the magic initials, RH, Robert Hennell.

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Very much the best of British. Certainly, any silversmith...

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The eyebrows will be raised when you say Hennell.

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And there's a premium attached to that.

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And in addition to that, that mark, he put on to pieces that were

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-specifically made to order for someone.

-Right.

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So this was made for somebody pretty special.

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-Was it made for your family?

-Oh, no!

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The other thing that's going to tell you here...

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This decoration,

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this engraving must have been put in at the same time as it was made.

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-Do you see?

-Mm-hm.

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There's a gap in the floral engraving here to make

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way for the lettering.

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Fantastic quality.

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Value.

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I'm going to be sensible and say £500-800.

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But I think we'll probably end up at 800. And possibly a bit more.

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Because it's not every day you can go to a saleroom and come

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back with a bit of Robert Hennell, so I think it's sensational.

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Well, the tea set was sensational!

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But would Robert Hennell's name bring the auction to the boil?

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The Victorian three-piece silver tea service, Robert Hennell,

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nice little lot. We go straight in, £400.

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400. Take 20 now. 400. 420.

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At 420. 440. 460. 480. 500. 520.

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540. 560. 580. 600.

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At 600. 620. 640.

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650. 660. At 660. You're in? 680. 700.

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720. At £720 now.

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It's going in the room. 720.

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All done. At £720. Nobody else?

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-Well done.

-Thank you.

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-£720. Happy?

-Very.

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# I like a nice cup of tea in the morning

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# To start the day, you see. #

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Well, that tea service certainly wasn't meant for your average

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builder's brew. And what a treat, as Charlie said, to see

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something of such quality on the show.

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We may not be familiar with the name Robert Hennell,

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as with other silversmiths,

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but his work is a great example of the very best of British.

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And if you want to get your own hands on a piece of British

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design, here are our do's and don'ts.

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Watch out for items by less well known British artists and designers.

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You may find they're relatively affordable now,

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with potential for a hefty return in the future.

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Resist the temptation to clean or repair items before auction

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because you could easily do more harm than good.

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And as we found with the wonderful Tudric charger, when it comes

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to pewter, it's particularly important to steer clear of polish.

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There is a proud history of cabinet making in Britain.

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Its most illustrious exponent was of course Thomas Chippendale who

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practised his trade in St Martin's Lane, London,

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in the 18th century.

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There are thought to be around 600 very viable

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examples of his work in the world today

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and because of their rarity and the extremely high

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quality of the workmanship, they are of course hugely valuable.

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You can see examples of Chippendale's work in several

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of England's stately homes, including Harewood House in Leeds.

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Nearby Temple Newsam House also has a number of his pieces,

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including this desk.

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I caught up with in-house furniture expert Ian Fraser to learn more.

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-Ian, hello.

-How do you do?

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I couldn't come here to Temple Newsam without speaking to you

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-and seeing this magnificent desk.

-It's great, isn't it?

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It really is the holy grail. How did it arrive here?

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Well, Harewood House, when it was a private house, they sold it.

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I guess perhaps the Lordship needed the money,

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but it came up for auction in 1963 and it was acquired for

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Leeds City Art Galleries for display at Temple Newsam House.

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It's got that country house, lived-in look.

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-It's lost a lot of the colour on the marquetry.

-It has, inevitably.

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It's lost greens and reds, but I don't mind that.

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-Do you know what year this was made in?

-I think it was 1772, I think.

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-Have you worked on this at all?

-I have done some remedial works, yes.

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Lifting veneers, putting them back down.

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It was interesting because we were able to see

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some of the original colours when we turned the veneers over.

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And do the drawers slide as beautifully as they did when they were made?

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Yes. You're welcome to try it if you like.

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-Pull one out for me, let's have a look.

-We can try.

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-Yes, they do...

-Let's have a look at the dovetail.

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I'll just take it out completely

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and you can see the quality of the dovetail joint.

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-Yeah.

-It's just outstanding quality.

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-Cut with a fine tenon saw.

-Mm.

-You're from Canada.

-That's right.

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So, what do you think about Chippendale?

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-Does he make the grade over there?

-Oh, absolutely.

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The name of Thomas Chippendale is synonymous

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with fine craftsmanship and design.

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It is incredible.

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Chippendale was not a man to guard his trade secrets jealously.

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Quite the opposite, in fact. In 1754 he published a book of his furniture

0:21:220:21:27

designs entitled The Gentleman And Cabinet Maker's Director.

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The book was instantly popular

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and led to many faithful reproductions of his work.

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He was undoubtedly the master cabinet-maker of the age,

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but who, you may ask, are the unsung heroes of the period?

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Well, when I recently visited Syon house in Middlesex, I found

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what can justifiably be described as a hidden gem.

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There are some names in English

0:21:540:21:56

cabinet-making that we are quite familiar with - Bullock,

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Gillow, Chippendale, but have you heard of a chap called William Vile?

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He's one of the best kept secrets of English cabinet-making during

0:22:040:22:07

the 1700s, and this cabinet is made by his hand.

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He set up a workshop on the corner of St Martin's Lane

0:22:130:22:16

in Long Acre, right next to a chap called Thomas Chippendale.

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They were rivals, but you cannot set their work apart.

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There's no denying the quality of craftsmanship.

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You'd think that would be by Chippendale, but it's by Vile.

0:22:270:22:31

Now, he went into partnership with a chap called John Cobb,

0:22:310:22:35

another exceptional cabinet-maker, towards the end of his career,

0:22:350:22:39

and it's at that particular stage, in the 1760s, for a few years,

0:22:390:22:43

that they worked for none other than King George III -

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they were the royal cabinet-makers.

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Sadly, I think William Vile's works been overshadowed

0:22:490:22:52

by Thomas Chippendale, but I think this piece is exceptional.

0:22:520:22:55

It's got architectural proportion and detail,

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it's got everything going for it.

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And the price, well, this is so rare it's worth well over £1 million.

0:22:590:23:04

Now, if I say to you British pottery, what springs to mind?

0:23:090:23:13

Probably Staffordshire and the Potteries,

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the epicentre of the industry in this country for over 300 years.

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But there's a lot more to the best of British pottery than

0:23:190:23:23

the factories of Stoke-on-Trent.

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# We'll keep a welcome in the hillside... #

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And pottery enthusiasts Catherine Southon and Mark Stacey

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were keen to prove that very point when they visited Ewenny Pottery

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in Wales, which has been run by the Jenkins family for generations.

0:23:380:23:42

Catherine, I'm so excited, I'm going to meet Alun,

0:23:420:23:45

who's going to show me the pottery side of things.

0:23:450:23:48

Well, I believe that they've got a historic collection here,

0:23:480:23:51

-and I really need to know a bit more about the history.

-Oh, you do.

0:23:510:23:54

Come on, let's get in there.

0:23:540:23:56

Catherine caught up with Caitlin Jenkins,

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the latest in the long line of potters.

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I'd love to go right back in history to where it all started.

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Well, the earliest record of a pottery being here is 1427,

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and this kind of thing would have been made then.

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So how did the Industrial Revolution affect the potteries?

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Well, first of all, in the mid-1800s, there was

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an increase in the potteries, but that quickly declined

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because other materials took hold, tinware in particular.

0:24:310:24:35

Later on, in the 1880s, the Arts and Crafts movement took hold,

0:24:350:24:40

and there was one particular designer called Horace Elliot,

0:24:400:24:45

and he designed pots for the potters to make.

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And what about this piece? Is this by him?

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Yes, we think this is a Horace Elliot.

0:24:510:24:53

-Because it sort of screams that design.

-That's right.

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And these are highly desirable, aren't they?

0:24:560:24:58

-Yes, very collectable now.

-Right.

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Did he sign his pieces?

0:25:010:25:02

Yes, he did sign them and he also used a fleur-de-lis.

0:25:020:25:06

So that's what we look out for - we look out for the name...

0:25:060:25:09

-Horace Elliott...

-And the fleur-de-lis.

-Yes.

0:25:090:25:11

That's where we are going to make some money!

0:25:110:25:13

-This is a curious piece, Caitlin. What is this?

-That's a wassail bowl.

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My family have been making them for 200 years,

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and they're a communal bowl that they filled with mulled beer

0:25:240:25:29

and cake and passed round when people came in.

0:25:290:25:33

They are actually to celebrate the harvest, celebrate fertility.

0:25:330:25:38

And I should think that if you found something like this,

0:25:380:25:41

one of the older ones, they are highly desirable, really collectable.

0:25:410:25:45

-Yes. I think one recently fetched £6,000.

-Really?

-In auction.

-Wow.

0:25:450:25:52

Yeah, I can see that.

0:25:520:25:53

So you signing all these pieces and dating them, Caitlin Jenkins,

0:25:530:25:59

that's going to be the collectable of the future.

0:25:590:26:01

-That's what we look out for.

-Yep, hopefully.

0:26:010:26:05

-This is the beginning of the process.

-That's right, yes.

0:26:090:26:12

-What I'm doing first is centring the clay on the wheel.

-Right.

0:26:120:26:17

How long have you been doing this?

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Well, I started as a child, through playing with the clay,

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but I've actually been working in the family business since 1969.

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I'm the seventh generation of the Jenkinses.

0:26:260:26:29

Caitlin, my daughter, now is with me, she is the eighth.

0:26:290:26:32

There's some fantastic footage, isn't there, of your father working.

0:26:320:26:36

-Does that bring back any memories?

-Oh, yes.

0:26:360:26:40

We all learnt, really, how to use clay by playing with it.

0:26:400:26:45

How many pots can you throw in the day, Alun?

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These jugs, I would want to make about 60 to 70 in a day.

0:26:480:26:53

60 or 70?

0:26:530:26:54

-Yes.

-This is just the sort of basic. This is not glazing them and firing?

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No, this is just the first stage.

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And each one of them, even though they look the same,

0:27:020:27:04

there will be a difference, because it's handmade.

0:27:040:27:07

It's all handmade, and the glazes the use are just splashed on,

0:27:070:27:11

-so you'll never get two the same.

-Which is the charm of it all.

0:27:110:27:14

-That's right, yes.

-What's left to do?

0:27:140:27:16

-I'll let this pot stand for about 24 hours.

-Right.

0:27:160:27:20

-And you just gently...

-Yes, just ease the clay. There we are.

0:27:200:27:25

Alun, you make it look so easy.

0:27:250:27:28

-Can Catherine and I have a go, do you think?

-Well, yes, of course.

0:27:280:27:32

Right, come on, Catherine, let's get on with it.

0:27:320:27:34

CATHERINE LAUGHS

0:27:340:27:36

-Oh...!

-That's right.

0:27:360:27:37

CATHERINE SHRIEKS

0:27:370:27:39

-If you rest your arms...

-Rest my arms...

0:27:390:27:41

And keep on adding water.

0:27:410:27:42

-Has yours gone as well, Catherine?

-No, mine's looking good already.

0:27:420:27:45

-Keep on adding water.

-Keep on adding water.

0:27:450:27:49

-Oh, Mark, yours is really good!

-Shush! Don't spoil it.

0:27:490:27:52

Yours is brilliant!

0:27:520:27:54

Oh, no!

0:27:540:27:56

Now this is looking good.

0:27:580:28:00

I'm going to stop it! Oh, no...

0:28:000:28:03

Make sure it doesn't go right to the bottom...

0:28:030:28:06

Oh, no, it's gone again!

0:28:060:28:08

Oh, no!

0:28:110:28:13

I think this is wonderful! I think this is a masterpiece.

0:28:160:28:19

Oh, I started off so well.

0:28:190:28:21

-I think I've got a new career here. Are you jealous?

-I am! But mine's...

0:28:210:28:26

mine's going to be an orchid.

0:28:260:28:28

-Is it?

-Yes, it's going to be an orchid vase.

0:28:280:28:32

-Do you take apprentices?

-Well, we're a bit choosy!

0:28:330:28:38

Thank you very much, Alun!

0:28:380:28:40

Well, Mark and Catherine's efforts may not have made the grade,

0:28:420:28:46

but genuine Ewenny pottery is collectable.

0:28:460:28:49

Horace Elliot pieces are so rare that they can make

0:28:500:28:53

thousands of pounds, and finding any older pieces in pristine

0:28:530:28:58

condition is so unusual they can therefore be very profitable.

0:28:580:29:04

On Flog It! in 2003, a pottery dog from Ewenny dated 1901,

0:29:040:29:09

sold for £600 despite being damaged.

0:29:090:29:13

Are we all done at £600?

0:29:130:29:16

Yes! Fantastic.

0:29:160:29:18

So although it's not as famous as other pottery,

0:29:180:29:21

Ewenny is definitely one to watch.

0:29:210:29:24

Still to come on our tour of Britain's finest antiques -

0:29:290:29:32

£1,400 we're selling if you're all through.

0:29:320:29:35

We'll take that!

0:29:350:29:36

A slice of history makes a king's ransom.

0:29:360:29:40

Yes! 1,500.

0:29:400:29:43

I explore an important chapter in the story of the cuppa.

0:29:430:29:48

This is fabulous.

0:29:480:29:49

And our experts prove that British eccentricity is alive and kicking.

0:29:490:29:54

I think I'd rather sell my house than sell my cupboard.

0:29:540:29:57

There's one thing that people who are not from the UK

0:30:000:30:04

think they know about, and that is the British character.

0:30:040:30:07

Fair play, the stiff upper lip, a sense of irony and, of course,

0:30:070:30:12

the love of queueing.

0:30:120:30:13

But what is the British character?

0:30:180:30:20

And how is that encapsulated in the antiques

0:30:200:30:22

and the collectables that we Brits so love?

0:30:220:30:25

Well, here are our experts musing on which collectables

0:30:250:30:29

sum up our national character and pull in a profit at auction.

0:30:290:30:33

The British love their gardening, don't they?

0:30:330:30:36

So anything to do with gardening - gardening antiques, benches,

0:30:360:30:39

planters, that sort of thing - they always sell well.

0:30:390:30:42

Flags, medals, commemorative.

0:30:420:30:46

Nostalgia - we are good nostalgia in this country.

0:30:460:30:49

We like things that remind us of where we come from

0:30:490:30:51

and our childhood.

0:30:510:30:53

And of course anything to do with our royal family.

0:30:530:30:55

We've always been very inclusive, I like to think, and very welcoming.

0:30:550:30:59

And because of that I think we've got a richer society for it.

0:30:590:31:02

And a richer society, I think, produces richer results.

0:31:020:31:07

We Brits all love a good yarn, and in 2005 Charlie found

0:31:120:31:16

an item with a fascinating story that was quite literally behind it.

0:31:160:31:21

I think of all the things I've done on Flog It! over the years,

0:31:220:31:27

this is my favourite.

0:31:270:31:29

It's got everything.

0:31:290:31:30

-Do you know who this is?

-No, I don't.

-Well, I didn't.

0:31:300:31:33

I hadn't got a clue who he was.

0:31:330:31:35

I thought the artist looked familiar, the style of it.

0:31:350:31:40

It's very well painted and it's got some really fascinating

0:31:400:31:44

writing on the back. What have you deemed from it?

0:31:440:31:48

I just got the name of the artist, who I thought it was,

0:31:480:31:53

which was George Morland.

0:31:530:31:54

George Morland.

0:31:540:31:56

Who was a famous alcoholic, but a very, very good painter.

0:31:560:32:00

I thought I could tell this was by Morland when I saw the picture.

0:32:000:32:05

I was rather praying it was by him.

0:32:050:32:07

But the great thing was, when you turned it over there was this

0:32:070:32:11

wonderful writing on the back which told you everything about it.

0:32:110:32:15

How often can you find that with a picture? It's very rare.

0:32:150:32:18

It starts here.

0:32:180:32:20

"This is the portrait of the late Mr Thomas Moore,

0:32:200:32:23

"who established the booking office and tavern about the year

0:32:230:32:28

"of 1760 called the Green Man and Still, Oxford Street, London."

0:32:280:32:34

-Isn't that fantastic?

-It is.

-And it goes on to say...

0:32:340:32:38

that George Morland stayed there,

0:32:380:32:40

and when it came for the time to leave, the landlord said,

0:32:400:32:44

"If you can't pay, paint a picture of me and the missus and we'll let you go."

0:32:440:32:49

Pub memorabilia is quite collectable nowadays,

0:32:490:32:51

but no way could this be called pub memorabilia.

0:32:510:32:54

This was, is, a work of art.

0:32:540:32:59

It's a painting by a great artist done through force of circumstances.

0:32:590:33:04

Now, this artist has made pictures, you know, 10,000, 20,000 -

0:33:040:33:07

a serious artist.

0:33:070:33:09

-But this is more of a sketch, really.

-Yes.

0:33:090:33:11

-It's got some damage.

-Yes.

0:33:110:33:14

But as much of the value is attributable to

0:33:140:33:17

the history of it as the painting itself.

0:33:170:33:19

We'll estimate it at 300 to 500, but it's the sort of thing,

0:33:190:33:23

given the history, that might be a bit of a flyer.

0:33:230:33:26

You never know.

0:33:260:33:27

Charlie loved it,

0:33:270:33:28

but would the painting's incredible back story really help it take off?

0:33:280:33:34

Watch this, here we go.

0:33:340:33:36

The attributed to George Morland study.

0:33:360:33:39

300 quid. 300 I'm bid. 300. 320.

0:33:390:33:41

350. 380. 400.

0:33:410:33:44

420. 450. 480. 500.

0:33:440:33:47

The painting got off to a flying start,

0:33:470:33:49

but no-one was quite prepared for what happened next.

0:33:490:33:52

950.

0:33:540:33:55

1,000 here.

0:33:550:33:57

1,050. At 1,050. 1,100.

0:33:580:34:01

-At 1,100.

-We're getting there, aren't we?

0:34:010:34:04

1,150 down here.

0:34:040:34:05

1,200. 1,300.

0:34:050:34:08

1,400.

0:34:080:34:09

1,500.

0:34:090:34:12

At £1,500. I sell here at £1,500...

0:34:120:34:16

Yes! 1,500.

0:34:180:34:21

-Wow!

-That's three times the top estimate.

-That's good.

0:34:210:34:24

They DID like it!

0:34:240:34:26

What an amazing painting!

0:34:260:34:28

It's fair to say that the British love of drink has rarely

0:34:280:34:32

produced such a tragic yet fascinating story.

0:34:320:34:36

There's no doubt that the information that came with

0:34:360:34:39

the picture helped hugely with the sale of it.

0:34:390:34:43

Now it's an emotive topic, but fox hunting has been

0:34:450:34:48

part of British life for centuries, and whatever you may think of it,

0:34:480:34:52

over the years it has generated its fair share of collectables.

0:34:520:34:56

You've brought along a real political hot potato today.

0:34:570:35:01

-That's right.

-Is that why you want to get rid of them?

0:35:010:35:03

No. That isn't the main reason, although I'm not keen on fox hunting.

0:35:030:35:09

Are these yours or did you inherit them?

0:35:090:35:12

I inherited them from my mum.

0:35:120:35:14

-And did your mum buy them new?

-Yeah. Yeah, she did.

0:35:140:35:17

-Was she a hunting fan?

-No, I think she was just a Beswick fan.

0:35:170:35:21

If Beswick produced one horse, they must have produced hundreds.

0:35:210:35:26

And the thing that makes one horse different from another,

0:35:260:35:29

is the different colourways.

0:35:290:35:31

So you can have a variation on a theme.

0:35:310:35:35

I'm sure they didn't do one, but if they did a pink horse,

0:35:350:35:38

I'm sure that'd be worth a fortune.

0:35:380:35:39

-I can immediately see a few problems.

-Yeah.

0:35:390:35:42

This little girl on a pony has clearly lost her head,

0:35:420:35:45

and it's been glued back on at some time.

0:35:450:35:49

And our foxy friend here has been too close to the hounds cos

0:35:490:35:52

he's lost his tail.

0:35:520:35:53

And that's been glued back on at one point in time.

0:35:530:35:56

-And also his leg as well.

-That's right.

0:35:560:35:59

So we've got bits of damage.

0:35:590:36:00

I think we can put an auction estimate on of £500-£800.

0:36:000:36:03

-Right, OK.

-And we'll reserve them at probably £400/£450.

0:36:030:36:07

-450 with some discretion on it.

-Right.

0:36:070:36:10

There are ardent Beswick collectors out there, and if they haven't got

0:36:100:36:16

something that they need to complete their collection and it comes

0:36:160:36:19

up at auction, they just stand there and they bid and they bid.

0:36:190:36:23

And then they bid again.

0:36:230:36:25

Isn't that great?

0:36:250:36:26

Move onto lot 398, is 11 Beswick hunting figures.

0:36:260:36:30

A lot of interest in this lot.

0:36:300:36:31

Bids allow us to start right away at £600.

0:36:310:36:35

That's good. We'll take that.

0:36:370:36:39

620. 640. 660.

0:36:390:36:42

680. 700. 750. 800.

0:36:420:36:45

800 there. 850. 900.

0:36:450:36:47

950. 975.

0:36:470:36:49

1,050.

0:36:490:36:51

1,100. 1,150.

0:36:510:36:53

1,200. 1,250.

0:36:530:36:55

1,300. 1,350.

0:36:550:36:57

1,400. 1,450.

0:36:570:36:59

At £1,400.

0:36:590:37:01

1,450 willing?

0:37:010:37:03

£1,400 - we're selling if you're all through...

0:37:030:37:05

-We'll take that - £1,400.

-Brilliant.

0:37:070:37:09

You've got to be so pleased with that.

0:37:090:37:11

Yeah, I am. That's brilliant.

0:37:110:37:13

That is the definition of a runaway success.

0:37:130:37:16

But would an auction room be swept away in the same way today?

0:37:160:37:20

In this business, any price that goes like that,

0:37:200:37:23

will sure as hell go like that.

0:37:230:37:26

What you want is a nice steady increase in prices.

0:37:260:37:28

You don't want things going like that.

0:37:280:37:30

The Beswick market, perhaps, when we filmed this piece,

0:37:300:37:35

it was through the roof.

0:37:350:37:36

I don't think that little hunting group would make as much

0:37:360:37:39

today as it did then.

0:37:390:37:40

Our valuation day at London Zoo in 2012,

0:37:420:37:45

saw all manner of interesting lots come trotting our way.

0:37:450:37:49

Including a foxy piece of British silver for Will.

0:37:490:37:53

Carrie and Chloe, welcome to Flog It! In this great location.

0:37:540:37:57

Is this something that you've had, or...?

0:37:570:37:59

It's my dad's.

0:37:590:38:01

-We've nicked it from his house today.

-I hope he knows about it.

0:38:010:38:05

He's given us permission.

0:38:060:38:08

OK. Tell me, do you know what it is?

0:38:080:38:11

When they used to go out hunting for foxes,

0:38:110:38:13

they used to stop and have their drinks.

0:38:130:38:15

Yeah, you're dead right. They call them stirrup cups.

0:38:150:38:18

People who hunted,

0:38:180:38:20

certainly those in the red blazers on the horses,

0:38:200:38:22

would often have accessories - flasks, sandwich boxes,

0:38:220:38:27

even their boots, everything would be made to a very high standard.

0:38:270:38:32

Because they well wealthy, they were able to buy very good made pieces.

0:38:320:38:36

Typically, a stirrup cup doesn't have a base or a handle,

0:38:360:38:39

so people think, "What's the good of that?"

0:38:390:38:41

You're going to put your sherry in it and it's going to spill.

0:38:410:38:44

But if I cunningly turn it over...

0:38:440:38:46

-Look at that - it's great, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Nice piece of design.

0:38:460:38:49

So the two ears and the nose form a tripod base.

0:38:490:38:52

Cheers! And down it goes. Down the sherry and off they go.

0:38:520:38:54

I've had a look at it - while these were

0:38:540:38:57

made from sort of 1770 onwards, this is a more modern example.

0:38:570:39:01

This is from the 1970s. Yeah? So, if we have a look at the hallmarks,

0:39:010:39:05

cos even though it's not antique, all silver should carry

0:39:050:39:08

the hallmarks, and we can see here, we've got the Sheffield Assay mark.

0:39:080:39:13

We've still got the sterling lion mark.

0:39:130:39:15

And then we've got the date letter here for 1972.

0:39:150:39:18

So you say your dad bought it - where did he get it from?

0:39:180:39:22

-A fair, or...?

-Yeah, I think so, yeah.

0:39:220:39:24

-Quite a while ago.

-What did he pay for it?

0:39:240:39:26

He says about 100, or something.

0:39:260:39:29

OK, so he's done all right, 100, or something...

0:39:290:39:31

He can't really remember cos it was a while ago.

0:39:310:39:33

It was a while ago, was it?

0:39:330:39:34

-Yeah.

-Cos I think 200-300 is a spot-on estimate for this.

0:39:340:39:37

-What do you think, Chloe?

-Yeah.

-It's a lot of money, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:39:370:39:40

The stirrup cup was quirkily British,

0:39:420:39:44

but could it race ahead of the pack at auction?

0:39:440:39:48

The stirrup cup with the foxes head.

0:39:480:39:51

There we go. £150 to start.

0:39:510:39:53

-Surely...

-150 I'm bid. 160.

0:39:530:39:56

170. 180.

0:39:560:39:59

190. 190.

0:39:590:40:01

200 there. 210.

0:40:010:40:03

220.

0:40:030:40:05

Looks like a commission bidder.

0:40:050:40:07

250. 260. 270.

0:40:070:40:10

280. 290.

0:40:100:40:13

300. 320. 340.

0:40:130:40:17

Shaking his head. 340 here.

0:40:170:40:19

Anybody else want to come in?

0:40:190:40:20

Good thing. 340. 360.

0:40:200:40:23

-360 there.

-Show me the fox!

-360. Anybody else?

0:40:230:40:27

360...

0:40:270:40:29

I'm happy with that.

0:40:290:40:31

That's a very good result, isn't it?

0:40:310:40:34

So neither its hunting connections

0:40:340:40:36

nor it's age held our little fox back.

0:40:360:40:39

I know the piece wasn't antique, so people will probably be shouting

0:40:390:40:42

at the telly, "You can't have that on Flog It! It's not an antique!"

0:40:420:40:46

But listen, it's an antique of the future.

0:40:460:40:48

It may have been made in the '70s, but the quality was still there.

0:40:480:40:52

In 2012, the unflappable Thomas stumbled across what many of us

0:40:520:40:57

would consider a national treasure.

0:40:570:40:59

Let's show the people...

0:41:010:41:04

This is a big flag, isn't it?

0:41:040:41:06

-It is.

-What's the story behind this?

0:41:060:41:08

Well, it belonged to my father.

0:41:080:41:10

When he died, we found it all in his belongings.

0:41:100:41:13

-And your father, was he in the scouts? Was he in the military?

-No.

0:41:130:41:16

He helped in the fire brigade in the war, in the Second World War.

0:41:160:41:20

I think that this may have come from his granny that

0:41:200:41:22

-lived in the local village.

-People sometimes call it the Union Jack,

0:41:220:41:25

-but the right name is the Union Flag, isn't it?

-That's right, yes.

0:41:250:41:28

-And we are holding it the right way, aren't we?

-We are, yeah.

0:41:280:41:31

Because of the thick white band at the top, where you've got your toggle.

0:41:310:41:34

He's a little bit moth eaten here,

0:41:340:41:36

but I think somebody can forgive that.

0:41:360:41:38

I think it's probably almost like a coronation flag,

0:41:380:41:41

for maybe a village, village church or even a scout group.

0:41:410:41:46

And, of course, we've recently seen a lot of these around the country.

0:41:460:41:50

The Union Flag has now become part of our psyche again.

0:41:500:41:55

I thoroughly believe with Cool Britannia, with the Olympics,

0:41:550:41:59

all the celebrations with the Golden and Diamond Jubilees,

0:41:590:42:03

that Britain has regained the flag.

0:42:030:42:06

So, why did you bring it along?

0:42:060:42:08

Well, it's been tucked in a box in that attic,

0:42:080:42:11

and I thought it wasn't very good being up there,

0:42:110:42:14

so I thought the world needs to see it, don't they?

0:42:140:42:16

Well, they do need to see it. Have you got any idea of value?

0:42:160:42:19

-No idea whatsoever.

-And do you mind about the value,

0:42:190:42:21

or do you just want it to go to a good home?

0:42:210:42:23

I'd like it to be displayed somehow - I don't know how,

0:42:230:42:26

rather than in the attic.

0:42:260:42:28

I think I'd put around £50-£80 on it.

0:42:280:42:32

Not a huge mount of money, but I think we'd reserve it roundabout 30.

0:42:320:42:38

-How does that grab you?

-Can we not reserve it at 40?

0:42:380:42:41

Well, we can do it at 40.

0:42:410:42:43

Listen to you! £40, we'll do that at 40.

0:42:430:42:46

The only reason, I was just going on try

0:42:460:42:48

and give it the best chance possible.

0:42:480:42:49

But that's fine - we'll do it at £40.

0:42:490:42:51

-It's got a good chance cos it is quite a big flag.

-Yeah, it is.

0:42:510:42:54

And the colours are so strong.

0:42:540:42:56

So Thomas needed a room full of patriotic bidders,

0:42:580:43:01

or the flag would be left fluttering at half-mast.

0:43:010:43:05

There you are - the Union Jack.

0:43:050:43:07

Fine flag, that one.

0:43:070:43:08

150 or 60 or 70? I've got it - 80 I'm bid now.

0:43:080:43:12

90. Are you going to be the £100, sir?

0:43:120:43:14

£100 we're bid for it. Thank you very much.

0:43:140:43:17

That's good.

0:43:170:43:18

120.

0:43:180:43:20

Oh, my lord.

0:43:200:43:21

130 I'm bid now.

0:43:210:43:24

Madam, keep going? No?

0:43:240:43:25

OK then. I sell at £130.

0:43:250:43:28

£130 - sold.

0:43:280:43:32

-Good result.

-That's brilliant.

-Amazing.

0:43:320:43:34

Yes, we did put the great back in Britain!

0:43:340:43:37

What a triumph and an example of how collectors will snap up items

0:43:380:43:42

that are emblematic of Britain.

0:43:420:43:45

I was surprised - it raced away at £130.

0:43:470:43:51

And Isobel pushed me on reserve as well.

0:43:510:43:53

No, she didn't want 30, she wanted a £40 reserve - it didn't matter.

0:43:530:43:56

As we saw earlier,

0:43:580:43:59

there's a fine tradition of cabinet making in this country,

0:43:590:44:02

so we're always pleased

0:44:020:44:04

when a bit of quality British furniture comes our way.

0:44:040:44:07

Ian and Joanna, I've got to tell you, I think it's absolutely lovely.

0:44:090:44:12

This has got everything going for it, in my eyes.

0:44:120:44:15

It's a lovely piece of 18th century, oak, rustic, country furniture.

0:44:150:44:20

The cabinet's made of oak, oak's indigenous to our shores,

0:44:200:44:24

so that's why it sells well,

0:44:240:44:26

cos it's going to sit beautifully in someone's little cottage.

0:44:260:44:30

Now this is dentil moulding along here.

0:44:300:44:33

It's got a lovely colour here -

0:44:330:44:35

we can see these lovely medullary rays here of the oak.

0:44:350:44:38

Brass escutcheon there.

0:44:380:44:40

Open it up and let's see what we can find in here.

0:44:400:44:43

Look at those lovely old shelves. Really quite primitive.

0:44:430:44:46

And if you think about it, someone's taken some trouble to do that.

0:44:460:44:49

Because you're not going to see these shelves,

0:44:490:44:51

so the easiest thing to do is make them straight-fronted.

0:44:510:44:54

But someone's just take the trouble to give them that shape.

0:44:540:44:57

I think it's lovely. I really do think it's lovely.

0:44:570:45:00

The most important thing about any piece of furniture is the colour.

0:45:000:45:04

And the colour is patina.

0:45:040:45:07

It looks like a bit of chewed toffee,

0:45:070:45:09

it's the lines on its hands, it's the wrinkles on its face.

0:45:090:45:13

All patination is, is 100 years of muck and grime that's been polished.

0:45:130:45:17

And this has just been a functional cupboard.

0:45:170:45:19

And you rub your hands over it, and the grease off your hands

0:45:190:45:22

goes into the timber and gives it that lovely glow.

0:45:220:45:24

It's just absolutely glorious.

0:45:240:45:26

There are a few faults with it.

0:45:260:45:29

If we just...

0:45:290:45:31

have a look just here.

0:45:310:45:33

Can you see there? We're missing a bit of the moulding.

0:45:330:45:36

And if we look along just here, this moulding is also replaced.

0:45:360:45:41

I think, in auction, you could put an estimate on it of £300-£500.

0:45:410:45:45

And I'm sure it'll sell.

0:45:450:45:47

I mean, there are oak collectors who would really want to own this.

0:45:470:45:51

Owner Joanna couldn't make it to the auction,

0:45:510:45:53

but her husband Ian joined me and Philip,

0:45:530:45:58

who was still smitten by the wonderful patination.

0:45:580:46:01

You were saying you're selling it cos you can't get it in the house.

0:46:010:46:04

I'd rather sell my house than that cupboard.

0:46:040:46:07

-It's just lovely.

-Here we go.

0:46:070:46:09

Wonderful colour to that.

0:46:110:46:13

I have several bids on this -

0:46:130:46:15

I have got started at £380.

0:46:150:46:19

380 is with me.

0:46:190:46:20

400, sir. I'm out. 420.

0:46:210:46:23

450. 480. 500.

0:46:230:46:27

520. £520.

0:46:270:46:29

At 520 and selling at 520.

0:46:290:46:33

-Brilliant.

-Yeah, very good.

0:46:330:46:36

-It's was good, wasn't it?

-Yeah. Yes, so you were right.

0:46:360:46:40

Well, it's my business.

0:46:400:46:42

The oak cabinet really did conjure up images of the British

0:46:440:46:48

country cottage.

0:46:480:46:50

And its great selling price is proof of the pulling power of patination.

0:46:500:46:55

You can't replicate 200 years of patina.

0:46:550:46:59

You can't make it tomorrow.

0:46:590:47:01

It's something that's occurred over the whole of its lifetime.

0:47:010:47:05

It's its passport, and you can't forge that.

0:47:050:47:08

I hope our trip through the best of British has evoked

0:47:080:47:11

a little of the national character for you.

0:47:110:47:14

If you'd like to continue on our voyage of discovery

0:47:150:47:18

through the world of antiques, here are some pointers on how to

0:47:180:47:22

appeal to some of British of individuals - the avid collector.

0:47:220:47:26

Items of quality that are only 30 or 40 years old,

0:47:270:47:30

can still make money at auction.

0:47:300:47:33

Always be aware that markets fluctuate,

0:47:340:47:37

so be prepared for prices to go down as well as up.

0:47:370:47:40

This is especially true of items made from precious metal,

0:47:430:47:46

because their value is affected

0:47:460:47:48

by the ever-changing price of gold and silver.

0:47:480:47:51

A portrait's profitability or obviously

0:47:550:47:57

dependant on the artist who painted it,

0:47:570:48:00

but the sitter can also put the price up.

0:48:000:48:03

So if you come across a work you like,

0:48:030:48:05

do your research on both painter and subject.

0:48:050:48:08

And remember, that antique furniture should wear its age with pride.

0:48:100:48:14

Patina is of primary importance to collectors,

0:48:160:48:18

so don't ever be tempted to sand or varnish a piece of history away.

0:48:180:48:24

Sports and sporting memorabilia will always have a special

0:48:280:48:32

place in the British heart.

0:48:320:48:34

Adam, for one, is a fan.

0:48:340:48:36

I'm quite interested in sports memorabilia, specifically

0:48:360:48:39

cricket and boxing - I quite enjoy playing or fighting, I suppose.

0:48:390:48:44

And this is one of my pieces here - it's a

0:48:440:48:46

signed boxing glove from one of my favourites from childhood,

0:48:460:48:50

Nigel Benn, known as the Dark Destroyer.

0:48:500:48:54

We come across a lot of these things in charity auctions,

0:48:540:48:56

sporting auctions, things like that.

0:48:560:48:58

Quite a lot of them are signed.

0:48:580:49:00

They're fairly limited in value -

0:49:000:49:02

I think I paid about £50 for this.

0:49:020:49:04

I don't suppose it's worth a great deal more.

0:49:040:49:07

But if you're going to be collecting sports memorabilia,

0:49:070:49:10

make sure you pick those major names of their period,

0:49:100:49:14

and Nigel Benn was the fighter of his decade.

0:49:140:49:18

So that's why it's a good thing to own.

0:49:180:49:20

I've got a few others- Frank Bruno, Naseem Hamed, etc cetera.

0:49:200:49:23

I've got about eight or ten.

0:49:230:49:25

I also go boxing myself,

0:49:250:49:26

and I go training down at a gym in Stoke-On-Trent,

0:49:260:49:29

with all the big boys, who generally, give me a good beating.

0:49:290:49:32

What better way to get over a stressful day than to have a

0:49:320:49:36

scrap at the end of the day?

0:49:360:49:37

Great, for me.

0:49:370:49:39

It is truly inspiring to see the work of

0:49:430:49:46

so many great British designers and craftsmen on the show today.

0:49:460:49:50

I was on the trail of another great British innovator

0:49:520:49:55

when I visited Moseley Old Hall in Staffordshire in 2010.

0:49:550:49:59

The hall itself is famous as the hiding place of Charles II

0:49:590:50:03

after the Battle Of Worcester in 1651.

0:50:030:50:07

In the 20th century, it was bought by a man called William Wiggin.

0:50:070:50:11

The Wiggin family later sold the property

0:50:110:50:14

to the National Trust for just £1.

0:50:140:50:16

However, Moseley Old Hall isn't the only legacy William has left us.

0:50:170:50:21

His family were the first to introduce

0:50:210:50:24

and make stainless steel items in the world.

0:50:240:50:26

I'm here with Nigel Wiggin, the grandson of William,

0:50:310:50:34

and I've got to say, your grandfather was quite a chap.

0:50:340:50:37

Yes, he did his contribution.

0:50:370:50:39

But he was basically an industrialist,

0:50:390:50:41

developing stainless steel tableware.

0:50:410:50:44

William's father and his eldest son, both called James,

0:50:450:50:48

started J&J Wiggan, a blacksmith business in 1853.

0:50:480:50:52

They made mostly belt buckles

0:50:520:50:54

and stirrups for the horse-drawn community,

0:50:540:50:56

but after the First World War,

0:50:560:50:58

William decided to diversify and move the company forward.

0:50:580:51:01

He'd heard about Staybrite Steel.

0:51:010:51:04

It was a complete new material that didn't rust.

0:51:040:51:09

He bought some Staybrite from Sheffield,

0:51:090:51:11

and we started making bathroom fittings.

0:51:110:51:15

It got us a very good hold in the marketplace.

0:51:150:51:18

The real start of tableware...

0:51:180:51:21

-Teapots, I guess!

-Teapots.

0:51:210:51:23

Everyone wants a cup of tea, don't they?

0:51:230:51:25

Yes. And the person who realised that was my grandmother.

0:51:250:51:31

1928 was their silver wedding - this is William and Nelly,

0:51:310:51:36

and they were given a lot of silverware.

0:51:360:51:40

And my grandmother suggested to my grandfather that he

0:51:400:51:44

might like to give her a hand with the cleaning.

0:51:440:51:48

And the response to that was, "No."

0:51:480:51:53

And as a result of that, they came up with the amazing idea,

0:51:530:52:00

"Why don't you make some silverware out of Staybrite?"

0:52:000:52:05

And that started the world's stainless steel tableware industry.

0:52:050:52:10

Nobody else thought of it.

0:52:100:52:12

The toast rack was the every first thing we made.

0:52:120:52:14

And you've got that here, haven't you?

0:52:140:52:16

-We've got it here.

-Which one is it?

0:52:160:52:18

It's this one here,

0:52:180:52:21

which is, as far as we are aware,

0:52:210:52:23

the world's very first item of stainless steel tableware.

0:52:230:52:29

She said, "You must make a teapot."

0:52:290:52:31

And it's this one here.

0:52:310:52:32

That is 1930.

0:52:320:52:35

The aspect about that was that we couldn't make a teapot.

0:52:350:52:39

It's such a difficult metal to work with,

0:52:390:52:41

and my grandmother came up with an idea,

0:52:410:52:46

which is based on this shape here.

0:52:460:52:49

And the answer is, you bend it round like that and there's your spout.

0:52:490:52:54

It needs a disc in the bottom, needs a handle on, but that is how...

0:52:540:52:59

A single piece of metal.

0:52:590:53:00

A single piece of metal and that is how...

0:53:000:53:03

Do you know what they say which is totally right?

0:53:030:53:06

Behind every good man, there's a good woman.

0:53:060:53:08

-She was obviously the brains.

-She was on the ball.

0:53:080:53:11

The company grew from strength to strength

0:53:130:53:15

until the Second World War started,

0:53:150:53:17

when the factory was turned over to ammunition production.

0:53:170:53:21

But then, when the war was over, in the 1950s,

0:53:210:53:23

the Old Hall brand took off again.

0:53:230:53:25

1955, we took on board a student from the Royal College Of Art,

0:53:270:53:33

called Robert Welsh.

0:53:330:53:34

Now he was studying to be a silversmith.

0:53:340:53:36

But his thesis, in fact, was for designing stainless steel.

0:53:360:53:41

And he contacted us for some help.

0:53:410:53:44

When he got his degree, we asked him

0:53:440:53:46

if he'd like to be our consultant designer.

0:53:460:53:48

-And he started designing for you.

-And he started designing...

0:53:480:53:51

Is this his work?

0:53:510:53:53

This is so recognisable as different to the Wiggin designs.

0:53:530:53:57

It's so obvious!

0:53:570:54:00

This is '64.

0:54:000:54:01

I've got to say, this is fabulous.

0:54:010:54:03

Well, it is the most collectable item of all.

0:54:030:54:06

I think, when we closed down in 1984, we' made about 1,500 of these,

0:54:060:54:12

-so there aren't many around.

-That's a collectable then?

0:54:120:54:15

That is, undoubtedly, collectable.

0:54:150:54:17

Old Hall was the wedding present of the '60s.

0:54:170:54:20

I think that's an accolade - the wedding present of the '60s.

0:54:200:54:23

It meant every couple had one.

0:54:230:54:26

You can't go wrong there. What was the demise? What happened?

0:54:260:54:30

Cheap imported stainless steel tableware.

0:54:300:54:34

Nothing like Old Hall in terms of quality,

0:54:340:54:37

but about a third of the price.

0:54:370:54:40

We started having to shrink and shrink,

0:54:400:54:43

so we had to close the works in 1984.

0:54:430:54:47

Which is a sad day for you.

0:54:470:54:48

The worst day of my life, Paul, there's no doubt.

0:54:480:54:51

You still out buying this stuff?

0:54:510:54:53

It's popping up at car boots, it's popping up at charity shops.

0:54:530:54:57

If that popped up at a collectors fair, what would you pay for that?

0:54:570:55:00

They pop up so infrequently - £250.

0:55:010:55:06

Nigel, thank you so much for sharing your life story with me

0:55:070:55:11

and a great family you belong to as well.

0:55:110:55:13

Pleasure, Paul.

0:55:130:55:15

British craftsmanship's world-renowned,

0:55:170:55:19

and it finds its way to the four corners of the globe,

0:55:190:55:23

as Will Axon discovered when he met up with Martina at a valuation

0:55:230:55:26

day in Portsmouth back in 2012.

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Martina, I can tell from your accent that you're not from these

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parts originally, are you?

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You're right, Well, I'm originally from Germany,

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but have lived in the UK since 1984.

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What are you going to do with the money?

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Are you going to visit the family?

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No. We've actually just bought a 1988 Chevrolet Camaro.

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It does need some work doing...

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-A bit of TLC.

-A lot of TLC.

-So the money's going towards that?

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It's going to help.

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And this, of course, is English - we can tell by the hallmarks.

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We've got Sheffield, 1910.

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Where's this come from?

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-I actually inherited this from my godparents.

-OK.

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Who lived in Duisburg in Germany

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and were avid collectors of anything British.

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English silver is far superior to the continental.

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It was always something that I admired.

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I see inside some old paint splashes. Where have they come from?

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I'm guilty there - it's actually been used to store brushes.

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-Paint brushes?

-Paint brushes.

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I'm a bit embarrassed to say I did use it as a paint cleaning holder.

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Listen, I think, at auction,

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you should be looking at around the £200 mark.

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So Martina sped off to auction,

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hopeful that selling the British-made family silver

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would put a little extra va-va-voom into her car restoration project.

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Lot 460 is a two-handed silver loving cup.

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Sheffield.

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Start me at 150.

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-150 I have.

-We're in - 150.

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£150. 160. 170.

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180. 190. 200.

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190 in the middle here.

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Is there 200?

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At £190 we are selling.

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At £190, and if you're all done...

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Very last time...

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Just £190 - it's gone.

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After the auction, motor-mad Martina threw out her restoration plans

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and bought a new car instead!

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And this, even has a name.

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The first time we saw the Dragon Wagon was on eBay,

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so we made a ridiculous offer and the lady called us half an hour

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later to say, "If you come with the cash, you could have it."

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It is a head-turner.

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It catches your eye

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and it's quite amazing how many comments you actually get

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when you park it up on the drive.

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It does boost your ego, obviously, as well.

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But the main thing is, we have met so many nice people, such a

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variety of people, who are interested in the same things that we are.

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It's not just a car.

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It's always a pleasure to learn that

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Flog It! has helped somebody indulge their passion.

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Well, that's it for today's show, but do remember

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if you have any antiques you want to sell, you know where to find us.

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Join me again soon for more trade secrets.

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