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Our valuation day venue has grown from a quiet market town

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to one of the world's biggest ports in the 1900s...

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..to this cool, cosmopolitan capital city.

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Today we're in Cardiff, and this is Flog It!

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Cardiff owes its international feel thanks to the dockworkers and sailors

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from around the world that first settled here in the 19th century.

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Over 45 different nationalities have come together to create Cardiff's unique multicultural character.

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So I'm looking forward to seeing some eclectic items on today's show.

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Today we're holding our valuation day

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in an unmistakeably Welsh building,

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the National Museum here in Cardiff.

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People have travelled from far and wide to have their antiques and collectables valued.

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They're here to ask our experts lots of questions about their items.

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But there's one question they all have in common, which is...

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CROWD: What's it worth?

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They're gonna find out, and so are you!

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Joining me in the hunt for the very best antiques

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is the terribly sophisticated Catherine Southon.

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What can you tell me about this?

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It's very nice!

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And the undoubtedly worldly, but Welsh by origin, Mark Stacey.

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She's certainly got something about her.

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I'm not quite sure what!

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So, what are we waiting for? Let's get this magnificent queue inside this wonderful building.

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All settled into the Grand Hall, where hopefully it's going to be a perfect day.

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-Are you ready to go in?

-Yes!

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Come on, then. Follow me!

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We've got a diverse range of objects from all over the world on today's programme.

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But can you guess which of these two exotic lots

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makes the most at auction?

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Is it the 19th-century Cantonese porcelain bowl,

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or this collection of Indian landscape miniature paintings?

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Well, keep watching and you will find out.

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As you can see, everybody is now safely seated inside, including myself,

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so it's time we got on with the valuations.

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It looks like Mark is first at the tables.

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Let's take a closer look at what he's spotted.

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-Elizabeth.

-Hi, there.

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-We talked in the queue.

-We did that, indeed.

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-And I spotted this.

-I'm glad you did.

-A little travelling ink well.

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And you have a lovely story. It belonged to your late mother.

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It did belong to my mother. Unfortunately, she died before Christmas.

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And a follower of Flog It. She wouldn't miss a programme.

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She used to say to me very often, "I wish they would come nearer home."

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She lived outside Llanelli in west Wales.

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And she'd say, "If they did we could go and I'd take this and have it valued and maybe sell it on."

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-So you saw we were coming today and you brought it along.

-It was a message from elsewhere, I think!

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Well.

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I hope that she's smiling down on me today and I've done the right thing.

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I hope she's smiling down at me, as well.

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-I hope I give you the right estimate.

-I hope so, as well!

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Let's look at the item. We know it's a little leather box.

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And actually it's quite interesting.

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We'll pick it up, touch the little button there

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and it'll spring open

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and inside we've got a little interior

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which is gilt metal.

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-And then you push this one, I think.

-That's right.

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And you open that up and you've got a little ink well inside.

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It's nicely fitted there, so that when that is down,

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it's really snug on the glass.

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-It stops the ink from spilling around.

-Yeah.

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And this you would have taken almost like a mobile stationery cabinet.

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-Yes.

-You would have had this with your letter.

-Very useful.

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This is a nice example because it's in very good condition.

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-And it probably dates to around about 1900.

-Right.

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-Pretty good.

-It's over 100 years old.

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We've got a nice engraving on there.

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And this is embossed with leather.

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It's got that nice feeling...

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It's very tactile, isn't it?

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There's not a huge commercial market for it,

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-because what do you do with them these days?

-That's right. Yes.

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-Have you ever thought about the value yourself?

-No idea, to be quite honest. No.

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I think it's one of those items we have a little bit of fun with.

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If it's all right with you, Elizabeth.

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I'd certainly like the estimate to be around 30 or £40, something like that.

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-Yes.

-Now, on those sort of figures, you have to decide do you want to put a reserve or not.

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How would you feel about that?

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No, I'd just like to see what interest it has at the auction.

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Just trust the auctioneer to do the best they can.

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But I hope, because of the condition of it,

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and because it's got that really strong decorative appeal inside,

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-that we might pen a nice profit!

-That's right!

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Well, I hope we can do Elizabeth's mum proud with that ink well.

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Now over to Catherine, who's about to uncover her first item.

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-It's wonderful to come up here and get a real feel for the sense of the building.

-It is.

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-It's a fantastic building.

-It's a lovely building.

-It really is.

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But I am equally excited about what you're holding.

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It is absolutely fantastic.

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This is something that I would desperately love to own myself.

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What you've got is a Victorian, 1860 in date, spice tower.

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So we have these little sections

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which would have contained different types of spices.

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At the top, we've got the paper label that's been applied

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for mace, nutmeg and all spice.

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Sometimes you see these towers that are slightly longer.

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They've got additional sections for additional spices.

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But this is a really nice one, just with three sections.

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Tell me, where did you get this from, Janet?

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It belonged to my mother. It was in the house for a while,

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but she didn't get it from any further back than that.

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-She actually got it in a jumble sale!

-Oh, did she?

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-The legendary jumble sale, yes, she did.

-A jumble sale.

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-What did she pay for it in her jumble sale? Does she know?

-Yes.

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-10p!

-Ten pence.

-Yes.

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Well, can I tell you that your mother had a very good eye

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because this is a fantastic piece.

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A nice piece of kitchenalia

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that you could have in your country cottage today on your dresser.

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I would do anything to own this. I think it's absolutely fantastic.

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Estimate-wise, we could put an estimate on of 100 to £150

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and I think it will do that all day long.

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I'd like to be a bit tentative and put 80 to 120,

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just to pull everyone in.

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I think this is going to make nearer £200.

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-It's fabulous. Thank you very much for bringing it in, Janet.

-I'm glad you like it.

-It's brilliant.

-Good.

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That's a great little find.

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But there's some altogether more classical objects here

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that I want to show you.

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As we're in such a remarkable location,

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I had to steal myself away from the experts and the valuation tables

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to take a closer look at some of the other treasures that are on show here at the National Museum.

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There's one particular one that I really want to show you.

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It's over here.

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It's titled The Kiss. Many of you may know that.

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This is one of several versions by Rodin,

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one of the greatest sculptors of the 19th century, a Frenchman.

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It's twice the size of the original one.

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It's Paulo and Francesca, a scene from Dante's poem The Inferno.

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Two lovers. Sadly Francesca's husband catches them

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and kills them both.

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But this piece is acclaimed for its intimacy and technical achievements.

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Its mastery, really. It's absolutely stunning.

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From every direction you can look at this sculpture.

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It's interesting to gauge people's perception on things like this.

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When it was first exhibited in certain parts of the country in 1913,

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it was deemed a little bit risque and a blanket was thrown over it!

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But thankfully, when it was first shown here in Cardiff around that time, people embraced it.

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They were liberal-minded, I think.

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And I know recently some guy had the gallery closed off

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so he could propose to his girlfriend in front of this statue.

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That's a really nice thing to do. So romantic.

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That's just so beautiful.

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Well, that's enough musing over art.

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It's time we caught up with our experts and see what else we can find to take to auction.

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Roy, you've brought along a lovely Albert chain and some sovereigns for us to have a look at.

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-Tell me where you got these from.

-It was my father's.

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He used to wear it on his waistcoat with a silver watch.

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Where was he off to when he was wearing his finery?

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Probably down the Municipal Club, something like that.

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-What did your father do?

-He was a gravedigger.

-Oh. Right.

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He was a miner originally, in the Forest of Dean.

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So he moved from mining to grave-digging?

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-Correct.

-I suppose that's a sort of similar connection.

-Yes.

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-Still digging away!

-Yes.

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Let's have a look more closely at these and talk about them individually.

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We've got a few separate items here.

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First, we've got the Albert chain which your father wore once upon a time.

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It's nine-carat gold. At the bottom here we've got a full sovereign.

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The value of the Albert chain by itself

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would be purely on the weight around £300.

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We know that gold is selling well at the moment.

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And this sovereign, it is a little bit damaged on the back,

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there's a few scratches.

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In good condition, we'd be looking at about £200,

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but it's probably a bit less than that, maybe around 150.

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This one is in slightly better condition.

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This is another full sovereign.

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We'd be looking at around £200 for that.

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And then £100, 150, for the half-sovereign.

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-So there we've got quite a nice little lot.

-Yes.

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About 600 to £800.

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-How does that sound to you?

-Very good.

-Very good. It's not bad.

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-Do you think your dad would be happy about that?

-I think so, yes.

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I'll see you at the auction.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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I think it's time we put those valuations to the test, don't you?

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This is where it gets interesting.

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Let's up the tempo. Anything can happen.

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Stay tuned, follow us to the auction room. Here's what we're taking.

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Elizabeth's 1900s ink well is a great little find for a collector.

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I can't believe Janet's mum picked up this spice rack

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for just ten pence!

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And fingers crossed the gold prices remain high

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and we get a great result for those sovereigns and chain.

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Here we are at the Anthemion auction rooms in Cardiff.

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I expect you're wondering where all the people are.

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Why isn't it busy? Well, it's because it's auction preview day

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and I've come to have a chat to auctioneer Ryan Beech,

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the man on the rostrum tomorrow,

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to get the low-down on auction etiquette.

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-Ryan, hello. Good to see you again.

-And you.

-It's nice to be back here.

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I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

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We've got some cracking lots.

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But I'm here to pick your brains today.

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You've been in the business for well over 20 years.

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What advice could you give to somebody who wants to put something into auction for the first time,

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a vendor who wants to sell something.

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Very similar to the way you do it with your valuation days.

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We hold regular valuation days

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-and people bring in one item or 25 boxes of items.

-Sure.

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You discuss a value with them that you both agree to

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-and you can set a reserve.

-Yes.

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People are frightened to sell something because it might not sell and they'll be charged a fortune.

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-Yes.

-So if it doesn't sell, do they have to pay for anything?

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We charge an unsold fee of £10 plus VAT.

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That covers our administration and cataloguing costs.

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They're illustrated online with these types of sale and in the catalogue.

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It covers those sorts of costs, really.

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-And the insurance and the photography.

-Absolutely.

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You do a lot of work behind the scenes.

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Do you contact many top-end collectors and dealers and museums and people all around the world,

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do you flag up this as a point of interest,

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to say, "We're selling this in two weeks' time, are you interested?"

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We do that on their behalf.

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We use also different companies that the catalogues are posted on.

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Our website, our catalogues are there fully illustrated on the website

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as and when they're done.

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-So if you collect, I don't know...

-Tea caddies.

-..tea caddies,

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you'll be notified by email from those companies that there's one coming up.

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There are companies out there that you can subscribe to for about three pounds a month

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and whatever tea caddy is being sold in this country,

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-they will notify you by email.

-Absolutely.

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Good luck tomorrow with our lots. I can't wait to see which one's going to fly.

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I'm playing a guessing game with myself!

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-It's quite exciting.

-It is, yes.

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We may be primed on all things auction, but are the bidders raring to go?

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It is now sale day, so let's see what they make of our first lot.

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Good luck, Elizabeth, good luck Mark.

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This is bound to sell cos there's no reserve.

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Dangerous game to play. It could sell for a fiver. We don't want that to happen

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because this is real quality.

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We are talking about that wonderful leather-cased travelling ink well.

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-It's beautiful.

-Lovely condition. The leather's good.

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-I think we're looking at 40 to £60.

-I hope so.

-That's what I'd like to see.

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I'd love to see it make that. Love to.

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A leather-covered travelling ink well in integral form.

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Commission bids here. Start me straight in at £20.

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-20 I have. 20. 22. 25.

-That's good.

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25. 28. 30.

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32. 35. With me at £35. With me.

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38. 40.

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At £40. With me at 40. With me on a commission bid.

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At £40. With me at £40.

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At £40 with me. At 42.

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At 42. Takes me out at 42.

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At £42. At £42. The gentleman seated at 42 now.

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At £42. At 42. At £42. Are we all done?

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At 42.

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Yes. Hammer's gone down. £42. Mum would have loved that!

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-Loved that, yes.

-She wanted it to be sold on Flog It. She loved Flog It.

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-She would that.

-And we did it.

-Yes, indeed.

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-It'll go towards a nice meal out this evening.

-Good.

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-That was a fair price for it, I think.

-Yes.

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Enjoy your slap-up meal, Elizabeth!

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I expect you've heard several times by now it's a good time to sell gold.

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Everybody's saying, "There's never been a better time."

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When the economy is down, the prices go up for precious metals.

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Now, we're selling right now. Roy is putting under the hammer

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-a half sovereign, a full sovereign, another sovereign and a gold Albert chain.

-Absolutely.

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There's a lot of gold there, isn't there?

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-There is.

-And this is Dad's gold.

-It's Dad's, yes.

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600 to £800. Hopefully, we'll get the top end of that estimate.

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So let's find out, shall we, what the market dictates.

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-Let's find out what they're worth with the bidders in Cardiff. Good luck!

-Thank you.

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Lot 184 is the Victorian gold sovereign dated 1888.

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The George V gold half sovereign,

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another sovereign and the Albert chain. Lot 184.

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£500 I have to start. £500. At £500.

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Ten is there, now, at 500. 510.

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520. 530. 540.

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550 takes me out. At 550 now.

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At 560.

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570. 580.

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-590. 600.

-It's going in the room.

-610. 620.

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630. 640.

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650. 660.

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-670. 680.

-This is getting good!

-690.

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700.

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And ten? At £700. In the corner at 700.

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At £700 in the corner. At 700. 710.

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720.

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730. 740. At 740.

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In the corner at 740.

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750? 750.

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At 750 on the telephone now.

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At £750.

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-Happy with that?

-760.

-Someone's just shouted.

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770? 770.

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780.

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-That's very good.

-790.

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At £790, on the telephone.

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At 790. Are we all done?

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At £790.

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-Brilliant. The hammer's gone down.

-Fantastic. Well done.

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That's a very good price, because whoever's bought those

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has to pay 17.5% VAT on top of that.

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-Yep.

-But that's a good result.

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Roy, you've got to be happy with that?

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-Thanks very much indeed.

-Well done, Roy.

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We're going to spice things up right now.

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I'm joined by Janet and we're going to put the three-tier spice tower under the hammer.

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Lovely, lovely example of a Victorian one.

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I love the sections. They're all in very good condition.

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All the graphics, the lettering, is in very good condition.

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-I knew you'd love this.

-I do. It's a tactile thing.

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I've got a five-tier one at home, slightly earlier.

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I think it's apple wood or pear wood. It's definitely a fruitwood.

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-It's gorgeous. The condition will make this go away at the top end.

-Very good.

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It's got to. £120, it must do!

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Let's put it to the test. Here we go.

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Lot 600 is the 19th-century fruitwood spice tower.

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Mace, nutmeg and all spice. Lot 600.

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Numerous commission bids here.

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Start me straight in at £160.

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£160 I have to start.

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£160.

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At £160. 170 is there now?

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At £160. Straight in at 160 now.

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At £160. 160. Are we all done, then?

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-At £160.

-Lovely.

-Straight in and straight out.

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-160.

-That is amazing!

-Cracking result.

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-That's really good!

-But they are incredibly rare in good condition.

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-There's a lot around, but they always have chips and knocks.

-Damage.

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-They've lost their lettering. Perfect. And that's down to you.

-A great ten pence worth!

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There you are. So far, so good.

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That concludes our first visit to the sale room today.

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We're coming back here later, so don't go away.

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But as we often see on the show,

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a lot of items go in and out of fashion.

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They dip and rise, and the market dictates that. And also it affects the values of those items.

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But as I found out on a trip across the west coast of Wales,

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it's not just items and antiques that go in and out of fashion. So do towns.

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Take a look at this.

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Tenby, surrounded by the sparkling waters of Carmarthen Bay,

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and the sweeping golden beaches.

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It's no surprise that this vibrant town of colourful Georgian houses

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and charming cottages is known as the jewel in Pembrokeshire's crown.

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But this quaint little town has had a dramatic past.

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It attracts over 1.5 million visitors a year,

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but what do they really know about it?

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I'm here to find out how Tenby became one of the most important and richest towns

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throughout the Middle Ages here in Wales,

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and how its shocking and abrupt downfall followed shortly after,

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leaving it derelict and in ruin for many, many years,

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only to rise from the ashes to become the popular seaside resort town that you see here today.

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There's a clue to the town's history in its Welsh name.

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Dinbych-y-pysgod. I apologise if that's not quite right,

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but it translates as "little fortress of the fish",

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which reflects its origins as a coastal fort.

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But Tenby's story really starts with the Normans,

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who built the castle here to protect the town from Welsh aggression.

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A thriving community grew around the castle

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and the sea port was born.

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But attacks on the town by the native Welsh

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led by Prince Llewellyn throughout the 13th century devastated it.

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And that prompted the Earl of Pembroke to take drastic action.

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He ordered the building of this impenetrable ring of 15-feet-high stone walls

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stretching from cliff to cliff

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with towers and arches.

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Over the years, the walls were strengthened and this gate house was added.

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This is known as the Ring of Five Arches, and you can see why.

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There's five massive great big Gothic pointed arches.

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What a wonderful defence system.

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There's something I must show you here.

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These holes here, there and there, are socket holes

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so you could anchor the hinges to hold these massive oak doors which would have been here.

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You couldn't have kicked those in.

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And also, cut into the stone here,

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which goes all the way up there, a huge slot that goes right to the top of the castle,

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that's to facilitate the portcullis so it would come dropping down like that.

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It's marvellous, really. You can feel the whole fabric of the town, the history within these walls.

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Throughout the wars of the French Revolution, all this area here, this gatehouse, was covered over

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because the ammunition was stored here.

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So it kept it dry.

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The town's incredible defences appealed to one notable visitor.

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During the War of the Roses,

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the future King Henry VII sheltered within Tenby

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before sailing into exile in 1471.

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The king didn't forget the town's generosity

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and awarded various royal grants which financed the enclosure of Tenby harbour

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helping it become a bustling and important national port.

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This quay is one of the oldest in Wales

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and its location is ideally situated for ships travelling from Spain, Portugal, France and Ireland

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bringing in their cargoes of exotic goods -

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things like salt and wine and fruit.

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And in turn, they would leave laden with a ship full of Welsh fare,

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things like coal, wool, tanned leather and fresh oysters.

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Tenby became extremely prosperous.

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The town was home to several wealthy traders. Merchants lived in houses like this one.

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The owner of this house would have had a successful business

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trading from his shop on the ground floor.

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Life was good here.

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But after the Tudor period, things changed.

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Civil war and loss of trade to ships from other ports seem to have played their part.

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But nothing was so devastating as the plague.

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Tenby was struck in 1650

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and the disease wiped out almost half the population.

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LONE BELL TOLLS

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Such was the fear that enveloped the town that it was literally sealed off

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from the outside world and understandably so.

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Food for the residents was left on the outskirts of the town

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by traders too frightened to enter.

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It was terrifying times. This plague was dreadful.

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It's hard to believe now when you look around and see this picturesque postcard seaside town

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that the whole place literally fell into disrepair and decay for many years.

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Tenby was on the down. It became a slum town.

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In fact, in the council records,

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it's noted in 1784

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that two special constables were employed to round up wild pigs

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that were roaming around the streets and the yards here.

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Just literally pilfering everything. They had to be impounded.

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For well over a hundred years, this town was left abandoned and destroyed.

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But in the mid-19th century,

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salvation came in a surprising form.

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The increasingly popular theory of the health-giving properties of the sea.

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Doctors and Victorian tourist boards

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recommended invalids suffering from the likes of scurvy, jaundice and gout

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moved to the seaside to be cured by its waters

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and fresh air.

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Some even prescribed drinking seawater with milk or port.

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This bathing house was opened in 1810.

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The Greek inscription above the door sums up the attitude of the day.

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"The sea washes away the ills of men."

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So, if you had anything wrong with you at all,

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come to Tenby!

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These beaches would have been littered with bathing machines,

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horse-drawn carts which provided room for the bathers to change in.

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And then get straight into the water,

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the perfect way to protect Victorian prudishness!

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The town began to thrive once more

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as the rich spent money and bought property here.

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The arrival of the railways in 1866 put Tenby on the map.

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It opened up the town to the masses as a tourist attraction.

0:25:060:25:09

So it wasn't just for the health-conscious rich now.

0:25:090:25:12

And even today there's a hustle and bustle of life throughout the year

0:25:120:25:16

with fishermen steering in their vessels into this tiny, beautiful haven.

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I don't know about the health qualities today, but I'll tell you what.

0:25:200:25:23

The views and fresh air are certainly invigorating to the heart and soul.

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It's hard to believe this town had such a dramatic past.

0:25:280:25:31

From a pretty seaside town to a rather more substantial

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but equally as beautiful harbour city.

0:25:410:25:44

We're back at the National Museum, Cardiff,

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and there's over 750 people in the Grand Hall

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waiting to have their items valued.

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So we'd better get on with it!

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David, I'm terribly excited, and I need to know what's in this box.

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-Shall we have a little reveal?

-Yes, we shall.

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OK.

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-It's a child's gramophone.

-Oh, a child's gramophone!

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Wonderful!

0:26:110:26:12

-Is it complete?

-This is the arm. Yes, it's complete.

0:26:130:26:16

Fantastic.

0:26:170:26:19

Right. Show me how it all goes together.

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-It's tin-plate, isn't it?

-Tin-plate, yes.

0:26:230:26:25

-The sound comes out of the bottom there.

-Right.

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The arm fixes here.

0:26:290:26:31

-Yes?

-Right, OK.

-And the needle goes onto the record.

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OK. Shall I get a record?

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Aren't they lovely? They're so dinky!

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Some of them are quite expensive. That one's half a penny and others cost a penny!

0:26:420:26:46

So this belonged to whom?

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-To my mother-in-law, Doreen.

-Right.

0:26:490:26:51

-And she was 93 when she passed away last year.

-Right. OK.

0:26:510:26:55

-So was it hers when she was a little girl?

-It was, yes.

-How lovely.

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And then handed down through the family?

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No, it was put in the attic for years and we discovered it after her death.

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Right. Well, it's 1930 in date,

0:27:060:27:09

and it's tin-plate.

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-It was made in Germany in Nuremburg.

-Right.

0:27:110:27:14

And it's got a company name and a registration name down here.

0:27:140:27:20

-If you can see that?

-Never noticed it before.

0:27:200:27:23

I must say I don't know this particular maker's name,

0:27:230:27:26

but with a bit of research, we can probably find that out.

0:27:260:27:29

-How many of these records have you got?

-I think there are about 14.

-Right.

0:27:290:27:33

Seven nursery rhymes and others are songs. Some are overtures.

0:27:330:27:38

I should think it was quite a treasured possession.

0:27:380:27:40

She looked after everything. Not like us boys!

0:27:400:27:44

When we brought it out a few years ago,

0:27:440:27:46

I did try it and at that time it did play reasonably well.

0:27:460:27:51

-Right.

-But since then, I guess that the springs need oiling.

-Right.

0:27:510:27:55

-It's a clockwork mechanism, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:27:550:27:59

So we can say that it does work.

0:27:590:28:01

-It works, but it needs attention.

-It does need a little bit of attention.

0:28:010:28:05

-Yes.

-Because it's not in perfect working order,

0:28:050:28:08

I think we should put an estimate on of 40 to £50,

0:28:080:28:10

-with a 30 reserve. Are you happy with that?

-Yes, that's fine.

0:28:100:28:13

Done!

0:28:130:28:15

Well, that certainly made Catherine's day.

0:28:180:28:21

-What a corker, Judy!

-Thank you!

0:28:260:28:28

It's wonderful! Where did you get it from?

0:28:280:28:31

I inherited it from my grandparents,

0:28:310:28:33

-but I believe it originated from my great-grandparents.

-Right.

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And my great-grandfather was the Lord Mayor of Cardiff

0:28:360:28:41

-and was also a shipping merchant down in Cardiff Bay.

-Oh, right. OK.

0:28:410:28:45

So we think this might have come in on-board a ship and he took a fancy to it,

0:28:450:28:49

or we don't really know.

0:28:490:28:51

-That's...

-We've no idea.

-It could well be, you know.

0:28:510:28:53

-Because this has come all the way from China.

-Yep.

0:28:530:28:56

Through the port of Canton.

0:28:560:28:58

And this is generally what we call Cantonese Famille Rose.

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Famille Rose meaning the pinks that you can see in there.

0:29:020:29:06

-And it's a jolly big bowl, isn't it?

-It is, isn't it?

0:29:060:29:10

In amazingly good condition.

0:29:100:29:12

You normally find these with chips and cracks in them.

0:29:120:29:15

This has no chips or cracks as far as I can see.

0:29:150:29:18

-There's a little bit of wear to some of the gilding.

-Yes.

0:29:180:29:21

Where it's been handled over the years.

0:29:210:29:23

In terms of date, I think we're looking at something

0:29:230:29:26

which dates to the end of the 19th century.

0:29:260:29:28

-Right.

-So it's going to be 1880 to 1900-ish.

0:29:280:29:32

So it's well over 100 years old.

0:29:320:29:34

And what's nice about this, apart from its size,

0:29:340:29:38

is the fact that you've got these wonderful panels

0:29:380:29:42

alternate panels, of foliage and fruit and birds.

0:29:420:29:46

Just look at this panel with the birds in the branches

0:29:460:29:49

and these lovely gourds

0:29:490:29:51

and these exotic papayas and fruits everywhere.

0:29:510:29:55

The butterflies are absolutely stunning, the way they've been gilded over the top.

0:29:550:30:00

Very rich enamels, with the blues and the oranges.

0:30:000:30:03

All the colours under the rainbow.

0:30:030:30:05

If you look around it is an astoundingly beautiful bowl.

0:30:050:30:10

Why is it the right time to sell it now?

0:30:100:30:13

Um, well... Um...

0:30:130:30:16

Two years ago, I lost one of my daughters to cancer.

0:30:160:30:19

And my other daughter and her children and I

0:30:190:30:23

would like to go on a family holiday, a really good one,

0:30:230:30:26

-on the proceeds of this.

-It's going to contribute to a family getaway.

0:30:260:30:31

-It sounds like you deserve it.

-We've been through a rough time.

0:30:310:30:34

It's time we had a bit of enjoyment in life.

0:30:340:30:37

It's nice, particularly in this day and age,

0:30:370:30:39

where, unless you've got a big house,

0:30:390:30:41

that this can live on a nice Georgian table or something.

0:30:410:30:45

It lives on the floor at the moment, under the coffee table!

0:30:450:30:47

It's better to get rid of it, isn't it?

0:30:470:30:50

One grandson, when he was a tiny baby, he used to crawl inside there and play!

0:30:500:30:54

-I know. Now, I think, "Oh, dear!"

-Aren't you lucky.

0:30:560:30:59

-But still.

-I suppose we've got to be realistic at auction.

0:30:590:31:04

I know the Chinese market is very buoyant at the moment

0:31:040:31:06

and this is a corker, as I said right at the beginning.

0:31:060:31:09

But I think if we put it in at 500 to £700,

0:31:090:31:14

-with a reserve of 500 fixed.

-Yes.

0:31:140:31:17

And let's just hope that two or three people really go for it.

0:31:170:31:21

-Yes.

-And we might even get the top estimate.

-That would be lovely.

0:31:210:31:25

It'll please Paul Martin, as well. Cos he likes the top estimate!

0:31:250:31:28

Yes, too right!

0:31:280:31:30

Now, I've beaten Mark and Catherine to this next set of items.

0:31:310:31:34

And they're so exceptional, I'm feeling pretty pleased with myself.

0:31:340:31:38

-Gerald, thank you so much for bringing these in today.

-That's quite all right.

0:31:380:31:42

The most wonderful little miniatures painted on ivory.

0:31:420:31:46

I'm absolutely gobsmacked at the detail.

0:31:460:31:50

The exquisiteness of the brush-stroke is just mind-blowing!

0:31:500:31:55

Really, you need a massive magnifying glass to appreciate the detail and the quality.

0:31:550:32:01

I'm quite lucky. I've got very good eyesight.

0:32:010:32:03

I can see the detail, the little figures, the windows.

0:32:030:32:07

I can see everything that's going on. And it is astonishing.

0:32:070:32:12

This is, summing it up, in miniature,

0:32:120:32:15

-the British Empire, our fascination with architecture in India.

-Yes.

0:32:150:32:21

Here you have the Taj Mahal, other temples all around.

0:32:210:32:24

Rajasthan.

0:32:240:32:25

When you think about it, we were so fascinated with Indian architecture,

0:32:250:32:30

when all this information came back to the country and saw this sort of architecture,

0:32:300:32:34

they thought, "Gosh, yes, we want something like this."

0:32:340:32:37

And it was our Prince Regent, when he came to the throne,

0:32:370:32:40

he commissioned Brighton Pavilion to be built.

0:32:400:32:42

It was an homage to "the great British Empire".

0:32:420:32:45

We want something like the Taj Mahal, there in Brighton.

0:32:450:32:48

-And hey presto...

-There it is.

-There it is.

0:32:480:32:52

How did you come by these?

0:32:520:32:54

My mother bought them at a house sale in Sussex during the war.

0:32:540:32:58

-She had a keen eye.

-Yes, she did.

0:32:580:33:00

-She did.

-She did.

-She had a very good eye for...

0:33:000:33:03

Can you remember these as a nipper, as a youngster, then?

0:33:030:33:07

-Yes.

-Can you?

0:33:070:33:08

They were in like a leather folder thing which was very dilapidated.

0:33:080:33:14

That's why she had them remounted.

0:33:140:33:16

Oh, I bet they looked nice in that Moroccan leather!

0:33:160:33:20

Yes, but it was in a very bad state.

0:33:200:33:22

-But that's the kind of thing that...

-But in those days, you see...

0:33:220:33:25

Yes, that would be contemporary to the period.

0:33:250:33:28

And the only thing that lets these down

0:33:280:33:32

is the fact that they're not mounted in something from the Regency period.

0:33:320:33:36

If you had something with an ebonised frame, a bit of gilding,

0:33:360:33:40

oh!

0:33:400:33:42

No problem, two to three thousand.

0:33:420:33:44

-Oh, dear.

-No problem.

0:33:440:33:47

If they were still mounted in their contemporary boxes.

0:33:470:33:50

But it doesn't really matter,

0:33:500:33:52

because whoever buys these is going to take them out and remount them.

0:33:520:33:56

Or sell them individually.

0:33:560:33:58

Now. Anything that is pre-1947 that is worked ivory

0:33:580:34:04

can be sold and can be exported.

0:34:040:34:07

This pre-dates that, because we're looking at around 1805,

0:34:070:34:10

maybe 1810, 1815.

0:34:100:34:12

Value-wise, what do you think they're worth?

0:34:120:34:16

Have you done any research on them?

0:34:160:34:18

The last thing I heard as a valuation, I did this by phone,

0:34:180:34:23

was £1,000 for each of them.

0:34:230:34:26

-OK.

-Making 2,000 in all.

-OK.

0:34:260:34:28

I wouldn't want to sell them for less than that.

0:34:280:34:31

If they only sell at £1,000 each,

0:34:310:34:34

you won't be going home with £1,000

0:34:340:34:36

you'll pay 17.5% plus VAT commission.

0:34:360:34:40

So when the cheque arrives in the post,

0:34:400:34:42

-it might be around £820 each.

-I'm not happy with that.

0:34:420:34:46

-So if we factor in the fact that you have to pay commission...

-Yes.

0:34:460:34:50

..we'll build that commission into your reserve.

0:34:500:34:53

So we're now saying each panel will go to auction with a fixed reserve

0:34:530:34:58

of, shall we say, £1,150 each.

0:34:580:35:02

-That sounds fine.

-OK?

0:35:020:35:04

So if they only sell at £1,150,

0:35:040:35:07

you'll still go home with £1,000 each.

0:35:070:35:10

-That sounds fair enough.

-Happy with that?

0:35:100:35:12

I think this is very exciting.

0:35:120:35:14

-Good. I thought you might be interested.

-Absolutely love it.

0:35:140:35:16

-This is proper history.

-Oh, it is. Yes.

0:35:160:35:20

'Gerald's paintings are particularly special

0:35:200:35:23

'because the majority of miniatures we see on the market

0:35:230:35:26

'are portraits rather than landscapes.

0:35:260:35:29

'Portraiture became the most popular form because miniatures

0:35:290:35:33

'were the ideal medium to carry around pictures of loved ones.

0:35:330:35:37

'They were made to celebrate marriages, births and mourn the dead.

0:35:370:35:41

'They were originally painted on calf skin

0:35:410:35:43

'before the artists started experimenting with ivory and copper.

0:35:430:35:47

'The art thrived until the late 1800s

0:35:470:35:50

'when photography took over.

0:35:500:35:52

'But there's a big market for antique examples today.

0:35:520:35:55

'Collectors can pick up an excellent portrait

0:35:550:35:58

'by a lesser known artist for a few hundred pounds.

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'Like this one we sold on the show back in 2004.'

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He's done it! £270!

0:36:050:36:08

-Goodness me!

-Mind you, I'd rather have the miniature, I must admit!

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'Big names can command thousands,

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'like the example by artist John Smart,

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'which sold for £85,000 in 2008.

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'We'll find out how Gerald's paintings get on very soon

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'because that's all our items found and time to say goodbye to the National Museum, Cardiff.

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'Here's a quick recap of what we're taking off to auction.

0:36:340:36:37

'David's gramophone might not have played for us,

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'but let's hope it will sing to the bidders.

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'Judy's Cantonese bowl is bound to bring a touch of class to the sale room.

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'And these paintings may be miniature,

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'but there's nothing small about their value.

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'So let's travel back to the sale room

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'and cross our fingers for some fabulous results.

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'The day before the sale, I picked auctioneer Ryan's brains

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'on what his hopes were for that small child's gramophone.'

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I've not seen anything like this in my life before.

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I expect you have because you do collectors' sales.

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It's a Bingola gramophone, German gramophone.

0:37:140:37:16

It belongs to David. We've got around 40 to £50 on this.

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Catherine, our expert, didn't know a lot about it on the day. Couldn't do much research.

0:37:200:37:24

Hopefully, you've done something for us.

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Yes. This is a good German factory.

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It's made by Bing brothers.

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You've got the trade mark on the front of the gramophone there.

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A little B and W together.

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This factory was established in about 1880.

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They're known for their toys, usually toy trains.

0:37:370:37:40

-They made their first teddy bear in 1907.

-Right.

0:37:400:37:43

Have many of these survived?

0:37:430:37:45

Quite a few of them still are out there, yes.

0:37:450:37:47

So hence only 40 to £50.

0:37:470:37:49

-That's it. It is what it is.

-It's not a lot of money for something like that

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-if you're into that kind of thing.

-No.

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No. But at the end of the day, it's a child's toy.

0:37:550:37:57

-It's not the most exciting thing unless you're into child's gramophones.

-Yeah.

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We don't know if it works. We couldn't get it to work on the day.

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But it comes with a few discs.

0:38:050:38:08

This one's called the "Post Horn Galop".

0:38:080:38:09

Somebody getting ready for a bit of excitement there!

0:38:090:38:13

-Well, good luck with that, anyway.

-Thank you.

0:38:130:38:15

'Well, it's going under the hammer any second, so let's see how it gets on.'

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It belongs to David and his wife, Jill. Hello, Jill.

0:38:220:38:25

Ryan was quite enthusiastic about this.

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He told us where it was made and who made it.

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We've got a lot of history about this.

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And it's not a lot of money.

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I said that's good value for money, £40.

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It's by Bing, isn't it, which is a good factory.

0:38:360:38:40

Let's spin it away and put it to the test.

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Lot number 660

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is the Bing clockwork child's gramophone here. Lot 660.

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Numerous commission bids here.

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Start me straight in at 45, 55, 65,

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75, 85, 95. With me at £95.

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At £95. With me at 95 now.

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At £95. 100 I'll take.

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At 95. At £95.

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They don't care if it doesn't work!

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At £95. Are we all done, then? At £95.

0:39:080:39:11

-Fantastic!

-That's really good.

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I said to Ryan, it's a bit of a snip, isn't it?

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Surely it should be worth a lot more.

0:39:160:39:18

-Anyway, we got a lot more, didn't we?

-We did, yes.

0:39:180:39:22

-Well done for bringing it in.

-Thank you.

-It's a nice thing. A really nice thing.

0:39:220:39:25

Not only is the gold market pretty high right now,

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but so is the Chinese market.

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All the artefacts are going back to mainland China, where this one might disappear to, Judy.

0:39:340:39:39

-Yes.

-It's a wonderful Cantonese bowl

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-and we're looking at 500 to £700 for it.

-We are.

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-It's a big lump.

-It is.

-It's a rather big lump.

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In very good condition, which is a good thing.

0:39:450:39:48

I think this is lovely. I love the artwork on it.

0:39:480:39:51

This is a nice piece. I hope we'll at least get £500 for it. Fingers crossed.

0:39:510:39:55

-You're right.

-Let's find out. A touch of the Orient comes to Cardiff.

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Let's find out what the bidders think. Here we go.

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Lot 365 is the Cantonese porcelain bowl here,

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decorated with butterflies, flower heads and birds.

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420 I have to start.

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£420. At £420. 450 is there now?

0:40:090:40:12

At £420. The Cantonese bowl here at 420.

0:40:120:40:15

At £420. 450 do I see?

0:40:150:40:18

At £420. 420.

0:40:180:40:20

At £420. Are we all done?

0:40:200:40:23

At 420.

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-Didn't sell.

-Oh, dear.

0:40:250:40:27

I don't mind taking it home with me. I do love that bowl.

0:40:270:40:30

I think it's absolutely smashing.

0:40:300:40:32

You're still looking at a bowl that's worth £500.

0:40:320:40:35

-So don't part with it for any less.

-I won't.

0:40:350:40:37

I've got a feeling if Judy takes that bowl to a specialist ceramics sale,

0:40:380:40:42

it might just sell.

0:40:420:40:43

No harm done, though, because it was protected with a reserve.

0:40:430:40:46

Well, going under the hammer now we have some real quality.

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Some miniatures painted on ivory belonging to Gerald.

0:40:540:40:57

I had the pleasure of looking at these at the valuation day.

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Absolutely fell in love with them. It's a taste of the exotic architecture

0:41:000:41:04

-brought back to this country, inspiring buildings like the Brighton Pavilion.

-Yes.

0:41:040:41:08

Painted by Thomas Daniel.

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He died in 1840 and I would say this was towards the very end of his career.

0:41:100:41:15

We've got a fixed estimate here.

0:41:150:41:16

Obviously you factored in the commission. We worked that out.

0:41:160:41:19

-Let's find out what the bidders think. It's going under the hammer right now.

-Is it?

-Yeah.

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Lot 463. Collection of 13 19th-century Indian miniatures.

0:41:240:41:30

All framed together. Lot 463.

0:41:300:41:32

£750 I have to start. At £750.

0:41:320:41:35

At £750. 780 is there, now?

0:41:350:41:38

780. 800.

0:41:380:41:40

820. 850.

0:41:400:41:42

880. 900.

0:41:420:41:44

-We're getting there.

-920. 950.

0:41:440:41:46

980. 1,000.

0:41:460:41:48

And 50. 1,100.

0:41:480:41:51

-This is good.

-And 50 takes me over. At 1,150.

0:41:510:41:53

At £1,150. Back of the room. At 1,150 now.

0:41:530:41:57

At £1,150.

0:41:570:41:59

Are we all done at 1,150.

0:41:590:42:01

That's the first lot done.

0:42:010:42:03

Don't forget we've got two.

0:42:030:42:05

-We want 1,150 for this second lot as well.

-Good.

0:42:050:42:08

750 again I have to start.

0:42:080:42:11

£750. 780. 800.

0:42:110:42:14

820. 850.

0:42:140:42:16

880. 900.

0:42:160:42:18

920. 950.

0:42:180:42:20

980. 1,000.

0:42:210:42:23

And 50. 1,100.

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And 50. Takes me out at £1,150.

0:42:250:42:28

At £1,150 at the back of the room.

0:42:280:42:30

At £1,150. Are we all done?

0:42:300:42:32

At £1,150.

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-Sold.

-Jolly good! Thank you very much!

0:42:350:42:39

Between both of us we were spot on, weren't we?

0:42:390:42:41

-We were dead right!

-We didn't even have an estimate, basically.

0:42:410:42:44

All we had was a fixed reserve of £1,150.

0:42:440:42:47

A grand total of £2,300.

0:42:470:42:49

You did well, there.

0:42:490:42:51

Don't forget you've got to pay the commission as we discussed.

0:42:510:42:54

But you're very happy with that.

0:42:540:42:56

-It's just right, yes.

-And what quality as well.

0:42:560:42:58

-That made my day.

-I'm so pleased.

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That's it. It's all over for our owners. Another day in the office, another auction room.

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I hope you've enjoyed the show. If you have any antiques to sell, we'd love to see you.

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Bring them along to one of our valuation days.

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Details of upcoming dates and venues are on our BBC website.

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Follow the links. All the information is there.

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We'd love to see you.

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Until then, from Cardiff and from all of us here,

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it's goodbye.

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