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Children were baptized in it, men used to drink it whilst working

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in the field all day and these guys here

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delivered it all over the county.

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Yes, you've guessed it, the students' favourite - cider.

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Today, we are in Herefordshire, real cider country.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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Cider-making has been a tradition in Hereford for over 350 years.

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You may have heard of Percy Bulmer, the son of a local vicar,

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who created the world's biggest cider mill.

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And at our valuation day at Hereford Cathedral,

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let's hope these guys are sober-minded.

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This magnificent cathedral that lies in the heart of Herefordshire

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has had such a fascinating history.

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And today we are going to be finding out about the stonemasons

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who helped build it.

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And, of course, we will be looking out for some fascinating antiques

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worth worshiping at auction.

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And we have hundreds of people lined up here today laden with bags

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and boxes full of unwanted antiques.

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And they have come here to ask our experts that all-important

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question, which is...

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ALL: What's it worth?

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There is a choir in full voice there.

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Today, Adam Partridge and Christina Trevanion are on the lookout

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for the best of the big designer names...

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If only it was a partridge, we'd be made.

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..the real classics that Flog It! love to see.

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Oh! Beautiful. Love it. Love it, love it, love it.

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Coming up, we've got a show full of favourites.

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So, if you think you know your 20th-century designers, stay tuned.

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And can you guess which of these big names made the most at auction?

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A Moorcroft design is always treasured by collectors,

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but will the damage on this piece stop it making top money?

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And you may be familiar with Lalique glass,

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but have you seen one like this before?

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Could its rarity beat even a Moorcroft at auction?

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Or will the winner be the Beswick figures,

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modelled on some of our most-loved characters.

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Not so unique, but in immaculate condition

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and always a great favourite.

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All will be revealed in the auction.

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So, let's get under way with our first item

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brought in by a lovely young couple.

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So, Tim and Lindsay, thank you for coming in.

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I saw you standing in the queue this morning with this one

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and I nearly went weak at the knees.

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And then suddenly you pulled out...

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the matching pair, it was just brilliant.

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So, thank you very much for bringing them in.

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Absolutely stunning pair of McIntyre vases.

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Now, tell me a little bit about them and where you got them from.

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They were originally my great-gran's.

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-Right.

-But they didn't much mind about them.

-Right.

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And they have just always lived on our fireplace.

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-OK. In Granny's house?

-Yeah.

-OK.

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-And does Granny know you brought them here?

-Yeah.

-Phew!

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Excellent. And do you like them?

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I personally don't like them, nor did she.

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-Right, OK, so you're thinking about selling them today?

-Yeah.

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So, Lindsay, what do you think of them?

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I think they are quite pretty, but, obviously, she is not very fond

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of them, so that's fine.

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They have this wonderful Art Nouveau shape to them, as well.

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-Yeah, they're really nice, but...

-Very curvaceous.

-Mm.

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I think they are rather beautiful, but I am slightly biased.

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McIntyre, as a factory, originated

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by actually making electrical insulators -

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the pottery that went around an insulator.

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And then they moved into art pottery in about the 1910 era.

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And these pair of magnificent vases were actually designed

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by William Moorcroft.

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I think we've got a nice mark on the bottom here,

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which actually says...

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It was signed by the designer, William Moorcroft.

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And we've got the McIntyre mark as well, which is the factory mark.

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And also, which is rather nice,

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a retailer's mark as well, for a firm in Manchester.

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And we've got the lovely, lovely tube line design here, which

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has got spring flowers and roses,

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tulips and daffodils all over it

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against this lovely, celadon-coloured ground.

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There is a very buoyant market for this kind of wares,

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especially early Moorcroft like this.

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And I am absolutely devastated to see that one of them...

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We've got some damage on here. Do you know how that happened?

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-No.

-No.

-No?

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The cat knocked it off the mantelpiece or something?

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-They were just always like that.

-Oh, really?

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That damage is really going to affect the value, sadly.

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So, I think they are going to be popular.

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We have got those magical names, McIntyre, Moorcroft, Florian.

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Perfect.

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But the damage does worry me.

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I am going to be slightly conservative and say

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maybe £800 to £1,200 as an auction estimate,

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with a reserve of maybe £750 just to take into account

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the fact that that damage will put a few collectors off.

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If they put them on the internet, we'll get lots of interest

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and, hopefully, hopefully, we'll get in excess of that for you.

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-How does that sound?

-That sounds good.

-Brilliant.

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-Good price.

-Excellent. We'll see you at the auction.

-OK.

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From a big name in British ceramics to one in British silver.

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So, it's over to you, Adam.

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My stomach is grumbling and here we have some menu holders.

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Where did you get your menu holders from?

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-My menu holders came from the effects of my aunt.

-Right.

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And she got them from my great uncle.

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I think she probably had more than two.

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I would've thought so because they were typically made

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in larger quantities, obviously for the dining table.

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-Yes.

-In sets of eight and upwards. And aren't they wonderful?

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Silver and enamel with these game birds.

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Each one would have had a different game bird on them.

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These were produced by a company called Sampson Mordan & Co,

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which is quite a famous company,

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particularly well known for inventing the propelling pencil.

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-Oh.

-There you go. Very enthusiastic there(!)

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They did lots of novelty silver pieces,

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and often with enamelling, very fine work.

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And they assayed items in London, Birmingham.

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And these ones, more of interest to me as I am in the know,

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-were assayed in Chester.

-Oh.

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Which is slightly rare, it is slightly more interesting

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than the ones that were in Birmingham or London.

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So, let me just show the hallmark so we can see...

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There we've got the maker. Can you see the SM & Co?

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The lion symbol, the Chester hallmark and then there you've got

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that italic H, which is the date letter for 1908.

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-Why do you want to sell them? Surely not because of the space.

-No.

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They don't have anything to do with my lifestyle.

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-I mean, I find them decorative.

-They are.

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There are decorative, but how many of us use menu holders these days?

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Well, yes, that's it.

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But they are very collectible items

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and highly sought-after these days, I think, in the market.

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Have you got any idea what the value might be yourself?

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Well, not really. I mean, I do think about £100.

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-I think that is very conservative.

-Oh.

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Well, I mean that they must be worth £50 each.

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-Yeah.

-I think £100 could be your reserve

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and we could put an estimate of £100 to £150,

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but I wouldn't be surprised if they made more like 200

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to 250 once the bidding, the fighting had all happened.

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-Well, that's good.

-That would be quite good, wouldn't it?

-Yes.

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-So, you're game to sell them, are you?

-SHE LAUGHS

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Thank you for coming along.

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I'm looking forward to seeing them selling.

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I think they're going to meet with a lot of interest.

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Thank you very much, see you at the auction.

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We are going to put the acoustics to the test

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in this magnificent building with the Hereford Police Choir.

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They are 50 strong. They've been together since 1957.

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And they were recently seen on the BBC's Last Choir Standing.

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So, let's give them a round of applause, everybody.

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# Sometimes I stumble home at night, discouraged

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# Dragging my plans and dreams behind

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# Wondering if the battle's worth the fighting

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# And why so many people's eyes are blind

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# What would I do without my music?

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# To make things right when everything seems wrong

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# To give me hope

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# So I can carry on...

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# Carry on! #

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Thank you so much.

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Music to all of our ears. And now, to some little fluffy ones.

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Aren't these charming little Steiff toys here you've got?

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-I think they're very special.

-Aren't they?

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They are really, really lovely. Lovely features on them.

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-What is your name?

-I'm Barbara.

-Barbara, lovely to meet you.

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And how long have you had these? Can you tell me about them?

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Um, I got the first one... I think it was '58 or...

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1958 or 1959,

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when we had a student exchange

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between our church and a church in Stuttgart in Germany.

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-OK.

-And we kept in touch with the family that he came from.

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And the following year, her brother came.

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The following year, her other brother came.

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-And there is one, two, three.

-So you can date them '58, '59 and '60.

-Yes.

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Most people have heard of Steiff. Most of us have heard of Steiff?

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Yeah? They are a famous name in ted...

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The most famous manufacturer of teddy bears

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the world has ever seen, and the most collectible, therefore.

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And it looks like you have really preserved them.

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So, you must have cherished them at the time.

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Yeah, they weren't played with really cos, um,

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I wanted to leave the badges on them.

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Yes, and you have done well with that, haven't you?

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The badges are all there. That one's called Mopsy.

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And there is another one there.

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And I think that little one is my favourite.

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Lovely, characterful face.

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Where do they live at home at the moment before you brought them

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-today?

-They live in a china cabinet.

-Do they?

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So that the great nephews and nieces don't play with them.

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It seems funny, doesn't it? They're toys, but...

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"I'm going to keep it away from the kids, they'll ruin them."

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-But they are toys for the collector, really, aren't they?

-Well, yes,

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cos the first thing they do is pull badges, pull the labels off

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-when they get a new toy.

-Yeah, that's right.

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So, why have you come to decide to sell them now?

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Well, I have got six great nephews and nieces

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and you can't make three go six.

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Well, not without ruining them.

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Have you any idea what they might be worth at all?

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Well, I would hope that they would be at least £25 each.

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But maybe that's too much.

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No, I think they're worth £20 or £30 each.

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I think you have got it just about right.

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I was going to say £60 to £80 for the three,

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which is about the same.

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-Is that all right for you?

-Yes, it is.

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-Shall we put a bottom reserve of £60 on them?

-I think so, yes.

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-I think so. They must be worth £20 each.

-They've got to be.

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They are very nice.

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I am not normally that enthusiastic about toys.

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My first reaction normally when I see a toy

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in its original packaging, I think,

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"You poor thing, you had a miserable childhood

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"cos you weren't allowed to play with it."

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But you were obviously very pragmatic

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-and you kept them nice.

-Yes.

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Congratulations for doing so.

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This is a bronze statue of Sir Edward Elgar, one of our great

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British composers who lived here in Hereford between 1904 and 1911.

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And I'm pretty sure his push-bike came in very handy.

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It got him all over the place.

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But right now it's time for us to get straight over to

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Philip Serrell's sale room because our experts have made

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their choices for our first items to go under the hammer.

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So, let's get over there.

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Early Moorcroft designs can make thousands at auction,

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but will the damage to this one hold it back?

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Sampson Mordan wares are always collectible.

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So, has Adam undercut these menu holders at £100 to £150?

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And with Barbara's bears being Steiff, they are a firm favourite.

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Weather you attend in person or bid online,

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at auction, you can pick up anything

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from an airplane propeller

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to a sparkling diamond.

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Going under the hammer right now we've got some Steiff.

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Yes, it's a great name in toys. Three, in fact.

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We have got... What have we got, Barbara? We've got a squirrel,

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-a dog and a bear.

-That's right.

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And that's what they're famous for, those bears.

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-They've got their labels.

-You see lots of Steiff bears.

-We do.

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Lots of them. So it makes them quite easy to value generally.

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-They are always popular.

-They are going under the hammer right now.

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Let's see if we find a new home for them, shall we?

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-I hope so.

-Here we go.

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Lot number 360 is the Steiff plush dog Mopsy

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and Noddy and the bear, who apparently is unnamed,

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-which I think is rather sad.

-Oh.

-There we go.

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I bid £60 on the lot to start.

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-At 60. 70.

-They've got a bidder there.

-80. 90.

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100. 110. 120.

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130. 140.

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150. 160. 170. 180.

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190. 200. 210.

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220. 230. Any more?

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At £230 only.

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240. 250. 260.

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-It's going on.

-270.

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"Come and buy me!"

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290. 300.

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That's about £100 a little animal now. That's...that's good.

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£310. Is there any more at all?

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There is the bid at 310.

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The internet is out, it's your bid.

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At £310. Any more at all? At £310, there is the bid.

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A nice sell, then, at £310. And done. Thank you.

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-You have got to be happy with that result.

-I'm delighted.

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-That is a great result, isn't it?

-Yes.

-And worth every penny, as well.

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Great name, good quality. And quality always sells.

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These Steiff bears often sell for just £25 each,

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but this result proves that it is always unpredictable at auction.

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Serving up right now two silver menu holders -

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a value of £100 to £150.

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I like these. I see marked in Chester.

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-Very good quality.

-Sampson Mordan, good name.

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Yes, like them a lot, like them a lot.

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Would you be happy with £200?

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-200?

-Yeah.

-I would be very happy.

-Would you be very happy with £400?

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-Oh, you're not... You're joking.

-I...

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-You're confident?

-Confident.

-You got prior information?

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I might have.

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-Oh?

-Let's find out, shall we? Let's see if my theory works.

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Let's see if they're worth £400 to £600, which they might be.

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-You just don't know.

-I wouldn't be surprised.

-Here we go, this is it.

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It gets exciting now. Here we go.

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Two fine bits. The little silver enamel menu holders.

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I think these are really lovely.

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-A rack of bids.

-There you go.

-And I start at £260 bid.

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260.

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270. 280.

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290. 300. 310.

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320. 330. 340.

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350. 360.

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370. 380.

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390. 400.

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410. 420. With me.

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420. Any more?

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-420. 430. 440.

-Late legs. Look at that, another phone there.

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450. 460.

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470. 480.

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490. 500.

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I've got 520 here.

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550. 580. 600. 620.

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I can't believe this!

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650. 680.

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-They're still going.

-680. 700.

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-I can't believe it.

-700. 720?

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£700.

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There's the bid on that telephone at £700.

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At £700 and done, thank you.

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-Bosh!

-Excellent.

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What do you think? You've got a big smile there.

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And I said, "Are you going to be happy with £200?"

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And you said, "Yes." "400?" "You're joking."

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-700!

-Yeah. Thank you so much.

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-Gosh, that's all right.

-Pleasure.

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Two small silver pieces earned Diane £700.

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Now, that is a big surprise.

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Going under the hammer right now, we've got some real quality for you.

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You know what we always say, quality always sells.

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We've got some Moorcroft, and it's McIntyre Moorcroft.

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Very early Moorcroft.

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Pair of vases belonging to Tim and Lindsay.

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-Hello there. Now, these are Grandma's?

-Yeah.

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And she's here today, she's over there.

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Can we give her away? Look over there.

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Hello.

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There she is. Look just through.

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Bless her!

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She doesn't really want to be on camera, but we know they're hers.

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There's a little bit of damage to one of them.

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-We've got £800 to £1,200.

-Yes. Yeah.

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-Should do that still.

-I'm just...

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The damage is making me a bit nervous.

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-No, no, no.

-It is, because...

-I think we'll do that.

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-Do you think?

-Yes.

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-Do you think I'm just being a bit of a jelly?

-I do.

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I think, in perfect condition,

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you're looking at 1,600 to 2,000.

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-I trust you.

-Yes, I do.

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And someone is going to go home with these. Let's find out who, shall we?

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They're going under the hammer right now.

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Pair of Moorcroft McIntyre Florian vases.

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As you see them, very slight bit of damage there.

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Bid me for those.

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I'll start at £720 bid.

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720. £720 bid.

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At 720. 750.

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780. 800. 820.

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850. 880. 900. 920. 950.

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980. 1,000. Any more?

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At £1,000 only, on my right.

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At £1,000. Is there any more at all?

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At £1,000.

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I will take 1,050.

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1,050.

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Yes, 1,050.

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1,100. 1,150?

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At £1,100 only.

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-£1,100 for them.

-There is the bid.

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At £1,100 only.

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At £1,100. Is there any more at all?

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At £1,100 only. Is there any more?

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At £1,100, and I sell, then, at £1,100.

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And...done.

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-Thank you.

-Yay!

-£1,100.

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That's good, that's good.

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-Made it, that's good.

-Yeah.

-Top end of the estimate.

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Yeah, I was a bit nervous.

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-But well done.

-Happy with that?

-What do you think Granny will say?

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-I think she will be right pleased.

-Is she smiling?

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Shall we have a look? She is through here.

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Oh, look at her, she's waving.

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We got the thumbs up there from Gran.

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Great result for Nan.

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Well, there you go, that concludes our first visit

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to the auction room today.

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We are coming back later on in the programme.

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So far, so good, but don't go away.

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Now, while we were filming back at the valuation day

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at Hereford Cathedral,

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I was so inspired by the magnificent building,

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I thought I'd go back and take a closer look at who built it

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and how they built it. Take a look at this.

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Hereford Cathedral is a testament to a group

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of highly-skilled craftsmen

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who have kept this architectural gem alive for centuries.

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Putting their lives at risk on a daily basis without engines or

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machinery, they have built a building impressive

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in scale and design.

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Those craftsmen were the stonemasons and without stonemasons,

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there would be no cathedrals at all.

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And no pyramids,

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because stonemasonry has been about since civilisation began.

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Stone was recognised by the Egyptians as the most stable

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and long-lasting material.

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And the skills they used 2,500 years BC vary little from those used

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by the Normans who built Hereford Cathedral 36 centuries later.

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It is quite incredible to think that those wonderful, soft, round

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arches that you can see up there were created by Norman stonemasons

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some 900 years ago with the use of a mallet, a chisel,

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a set square and a plumb-bob on a piece of string.

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But who were these stonemasons

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and how did they achieve such feats of architecture?

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The Norman stonemason combined the role of designer,

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engineer, craftsman and builder.

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They served a seven-year apprenticeship, learning a huge

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range of skills to create both decorative and structural stone.

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It was hard and dangerous work.

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The sheer physical effort of lugging great lumps of stone

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all the way up there.

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With ropes and blocks and tackle, standing on shaky,

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primitive scaffolding with no safety rails, believe me,

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it must have been frightening.

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The sheer effort it must have taken, as well.

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And I know it doesn't look that high from here,

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but if you were up there on widths of scaffolding this wide,

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carrying lumps of stone, looking down, believe me,

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you were frightened.

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When those stonemasons were building this, people from all

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the surrounding areas looked upon them in awe

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at what they were creating.

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They were so inspired by it.

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They were regarded not as builders, but as magicians,

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creating something so magical and special as this.

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And those magicians are still working today, centuries later.

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Simon Hudson is a full-time resident stonemason.

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What are you working on at the moment?

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Well, at the moment, I'm making a coping stone,

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which goes and sits on a wall high up -

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just throws the water off the wall.

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How has it changed today? Has it changed that much?

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The principles of stonemasonry haven't changed it all.

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-The equipment has.

-Has it really? That much?

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Iron and steel chisels have been replaced by tungsten-tipped chisels.

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Medieval masons would have had a blacksmith working all the time.

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So, literally, a few taps, it goes blunt.

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An apprentice would be backwards and forwards to the forge

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to bring back sharp chisels.

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What's the template on the floor?

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Obviously, that's a full-size template from a window.

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Are you rebuilding this in stone? Can we have a look?

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-This is...

-It's obviously this way up.

-This way up.

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-Central mullion here.

-That's right.

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This is part of a full-sized sketch of a window on the cathedral

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-that we have had to replace.

-That window?

-It is that window.

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Talk me through the process, where'd you start?

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So, you set it onto the stone.

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So, imagine the floor is your block of stone.

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And then you scribe around the edge of the stone

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until you have created your template onto there.

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And even these eyes, these are piercings where glass goes.

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Yes. Looks like you have got a job for life here, really.

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-Let's face it.

-I put these going up there, as well.

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The more you look, the more you can see.

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Just along here, there's something I want to show you.

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It is a very good example of what is good workmanship

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and what is, let's say, shoddy workmanship.

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And it starts here.

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Look at these wonderful, clean-cut, faced pieces of stone,

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beautifully pointed.

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Coming down here and you've got this wonderful mid-height plinth

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showing an awful lot of architectural detail.

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Crisp, clean lines.

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This has been cut by a master mason.

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But something drastic happened in the country in 1349,

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the Black Death.

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It was a plague that was passed on from flea bites

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and it wiped out a third to half of the population -

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in doing so, wiped out a great deal of our skilled labour.

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Work on the cathedral stopped for around 100 years.

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When it started again, we didn't have that workforce.

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So, look at the masonry work now. It's shoddier.

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It's not cleaned off so crisply. The pointing isn't so good.

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And you come down here to this wonderful bit of ornamentation

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and it is rather crude.

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So, this isn't too worrying because this is just ornamentation,

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it's an applied detail, but you get the general idea.

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If it's shoddy workmanship on the structural elements

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of the cathedral, well, then it's going to weaken it.

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By the early part of the 18th century,

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the cathedral started to show signs of decay,

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although the stonemasons tried to stop its demise through

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restoration and repair.

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Finally, tragedy struck in April, 1786 -

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part of the legacy of the Norman stonemasonry collapsed.

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The west wing, the west front,

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and the adjoining nave crumbled to the floor

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on Easter Sunday.

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And this is where it happened. There would have been rubble everywhere.

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How did the stonemasons go about repairing this?

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Well, it would have been a daunting task.

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It would have actually come out to here.

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Because when it was rebuilt, they lost a bay,

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they would have set up a mason's yard very close

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to the site, probably behind us now, where the library building is.

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Very dangerous work putting that back together.

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Taking it down and making it stable and then carrying, starting again.

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Some of the blocks would have been half a tonne, hanging, dangling,

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you know, ready to come down.

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Would some of that have been salvageable?

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A lot of it would.

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I think there was a period of about five years before the new west front

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went up and was finished.

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And I can see the landscape of the cathedral is constantly changing.

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It is keeping up with the times.

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What we're standing on today has recently been done, hasn't it?

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-Literally.

-It has, within the last six months.

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Forest of Dean sandstone paving

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and a beautiful apple motif in the middle there.

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It works, doesn't it? You got the contemporary now with the ancient.

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Yeah. I think it's looking excellent, it really is.

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The Norman stonemasons built it and generations of craftsmen

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have preserved their work and perpetuated it.

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And in the words of the poet John Osmond,

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"They climbed on sketchy ladders towards God,

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"with winch and pulley hoisted hewn rock into heaven.

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"Inhabited the sky with hammers, defied gravity, deified stone.

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"Took up God's house to meet him.

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"And came down to their suppers and small beer."

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So, the next time you have the pleasure of walking through

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one of the country's cathedrals,

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spare a thought for the stonemasons of the 12th century

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who carved stone from the earth to create buildings that take you

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closer to heaven.

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But there aren't any stonemasons to be seen today,

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because Flog It! has taken over the pews of the Cathedral.

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And it is more big names to come with the brilliant collection

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of Beswick and this Lalique car mascot.

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But which will raise more money than the Moorcroft at auction?

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Well, this is a very distinguished object you have here,

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I think, isn't it?

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-I don't know, he looks a bit fierce.

-He looks quite fierce.

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Well, he's a bird of prey.

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Yes, I think he is a peregrine falcon.

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I think you're right, he's a falcon.

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-Yeah.

-Certainly. And what's your name?

-Sue.

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Very nice to see you here, in Hereford Cathedral.

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And has this come off one of your cars?

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Unfortunately not, because I think he would have gone on a Rolls-Royce.

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And where did it come from?

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-He came from my grandfather.

-Right.

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-Was your grandfather a collector of such things?

-No.

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-He had all sorts of funny things.

-Oh, really?

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-He had lots of nice things and some just interesting things.

-Right.

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So, what was your reason for bringing in this bird of prey today?

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Well, he is slightly damaged. He has got a tiny chip of his beak here.

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I noticed that.

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And I've got some other pieces that I love dearly

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and I wouldn't part with for the world,

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-but this chap... I'm not really bothered about him.

-Right.

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Well, obviously, he is a Lalique mascot,

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he is a falcon known as the faucon.

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Yes, yes.

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Designed in 1925, I believe.

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-Oh, really?

-And we have got the moulded Lalique mark just there.

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Condition, obviously, you mentioned the chip to the beak, which,

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obviously, drastically compromises the value.

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-Yes.

-I think, in good condition, you could see £500 worth.

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I would have thought about 400-sh, wouldn't you?

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£400 or £500, typically, in good condition.

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Because of the chip, I'd half it probably.

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-As much as that?

-200 to 300, I think, is the sensible quote.

-Really?

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That's interesting.

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I would have thought less.

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-You would have thought less?

-Yeah.

-That it'd be worth less than 200?

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Well, that's what I just guessed.

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Well, I think 200 to 300 is a sensible guide on it.

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Does that sound...? That sounds fantastic, actually.

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Oh, good. "Fantastic," I like a fantastic.

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A reserve price?

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What would you think?

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The lowest you could possibly bear is what I think.

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I think he needs a reserve, cos I don't want him to go for nothing.

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But I'm not sure about that.

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-I would have thought 150 would be a sensible reserve.

-Oh, right, OK.

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So, we'll put it through the auction.

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It's Lalique, circa 1925, faucon mascot with a chipped beak,

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-200 to 300 estimate, 150 reserve.

-Fantastic. Thank you.

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I can see your daughter is sitting there, off-camera,

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listening in, she can hear everything we say.

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What are you going to do with the money?

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Well, I think I might spend it all on myself.

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Excellent answer. Thank you, Sue.

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-Thanks for coming.

-Pleasure.

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Our auctioneer Philip Serrell is quite the car buff,

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so he'll be looking forward to getting his hands

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on this unique Lalique.

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Welcome, Claire and Janet, to Flog It!

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Thank you for coming in.

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You have brought this wonderful selection,

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very impressive looking selection, of medals for me today.

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Tell me about them, where they come from?

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-Those belong to my great-grandfather.

-And this is him?

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-That's him, yes. And that one is my father's.

-OK.

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-All right, so your grandfather was Royal Order of Buffaloes.

-Yes.

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And father was a Mason.

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This really is a very, very beautiful medal, made by,

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got a nice name in the box here, Kenning & Son,

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who really were the best, or one of the best, medal makers

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of Masonic regalia.

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This is actually an 18 carat gold medal.

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You've got the set square here,

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which is one of the very famous Masonic symbols and, obviously,

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the Masons started as a group of stonemasons,

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as a trade organisation.

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The set square was a mason's set square.

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You have also got the compass, as well, which is a Mason symbol.

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And then we move onto Grandfather's medals,

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which were, as I say, Royal Order of the Buffaloes.

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And these are very ornate, aren't they?

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You've got this wonderful enamelling on here.

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-They're beautiful.

-Very beautiful.

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Almost works of art in themselves.

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They are absolutely stunning if you look closely at them.

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And they're all nine carat gold.

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You look at the marks, and they are nine-carat gold.

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So, tell me, why are you selling them?

0:31:530:31:54

Well, Mum's got eight grandchildren.

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Eight grandchildren, wow!

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-So, they can't really be split between them.

-Right, OK.

0:31:590:32:02

Gosh, they're very difficult things to value

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because we've got to take into account, obviously,

0:32:040:32:06

the gold weight in them, but also the fact that Masonic regalia

0:32:060:32:09

and other regalia really is a very buoyant market.

0:32:090:32:13

There are collectors for it.

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But I think if we were to sell them at auction, we would probably be

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looking at somewhere, with this provenance as well,

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probably somewhere in the region of maybe £600 to £800,

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-something like that.

-OK.

-How would you feel about that?

0:32:240:32:26

-That will be fine, I think, yeah.

-You are happy with that?

-Yeah.

0:32:260:32:29

And maybe if we set the reserve at, say,

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-600 with some slight discretion, should we think we need it.

-Yep.

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So, we'll say £600 to £800 with a discretionary reserve of 600.

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We will keep our fingers very tightly crossed

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-until the auction.

-Yes.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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Over 800 people came to get valuations with our Flog It! team

0:32:430:32:47

of experts and it looks like we've made some people very happy.

0:32:470:32:51

You've brought in this wonderful selection of Beswick for me to see.

0:32:540:32:57

-Yep.

-Can you tell me a little bit about them, where you got them from?

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Well, they belonged to my mother, but I inherited them last June.

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-Right.

-She had been a collector of Beswick since the '70s, '80s.

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-But she got rid of all of them except this.

-This selection.

-Yeah.

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-So, she had much larger selection originally.

-Yeah.

0:33:110:33:13

As a child, did you have Beatrix Potter books?

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Oh, yes. Peter Rabbit and all that, yes.

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Wonderful. Cos you've got a great selection.

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We've got a good cross-section of what Beswick actually produced.

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We've got a selection of the animals, of course -

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the shire mare in a grey gloss

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and also the Shorthorn bull here, who is Champion Lord Oxford.

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Great name, I think.

0:33:340:33:36

-Yeah.

-And he is rather magnificent, as well.

0:33:360:33:38

And then this lovely selection of Beatrix Potter figures,

0:33:380:33:41

-which were originally produced from about 1947.

-Right.

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It was actually Lucy Beswick that suggested that they start

0:33:450:33:49

bringing to life Beatrix Potter's characters from the books.

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And they originally produced ten of them and they were

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so successful that they went on to produce more and more and more.

0:33:560:33:58

Those original back stamps were actually in gold

0:33:580:34:03

and they were an oval mark, originally.

0:34:030:34:05

Unfortunately, yours are much later.

0:34:050:34:08

They became more and more popular.

0:34:080:34:10

We can tell by the back stamps on the bottom,

0:34:100:34:13

which are now brown printed,

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that these are more 1970s, 1980 examples,

0:34:140:34:17

rather than their early '40s examples,

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which does make them not as sought-after by collectors.

0:34:200:34:24

They really do like the early pieces. But they still have a value.

0:34:240:34:28

For these nine lovely figures,

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we're probably looking somewhere in the region of maybe £80 to £120.

0:34:310:34:36

-How do you feel about that?

-That's fine.

0:34:360:34:37

-And that would include this lovely tree trunk display, as well.

-Yes.

0:34:370:34:41

So, if we were to put them to auction...

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I think it would be sensible, really, to split the lot,

0:34:430:34:46

because these don't really naturally go with those.

0:34:460:34:48

I think you're appealing to two different collectors markets.

0:34:480:34:51

-That's fine.

-So, I think if we separate them out,

0:34:510:34:54

and I think your shire mare and your bull,

0:34:540:34:56

we're probably looking at somewhere in the region of maybe 200 to 300

0:34:560:34:59

-for these two.

-Really?

-Yeah.

-I am quite surprised.

-Really?

0:34:590:35:02

-Yes.

-Oh, good. Thank you for bringing them in today.

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It takes me back to my childhood.

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I was a great fan of Beatrix Potter books when I was little.

0:35:080:35:10

It's nice to see them all again. Many thanks for bringing them in.

0:35:100:35:13

-You're welcome.

-Thank you.

0:35:130:35:15

What a marvellous day we've had here, at Hereford Cathedral.

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I feel like we've really got under the skin of this wonderful

0:35:180:35:21

architectural delight.

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If you'd like to take part in "Flog It!", we'd love to see you.

0:35:220:35:25

Check the details on our website,

0:35:250:35:27

because hopefully we'll be coming to a town very near you soon.

0:35:270:35:30

But right now, we are heading across to Philip Serrell's sale room

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for our last auction of the day.

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This Lalique is beautiful and refined, just like its owner.

0:35:360:35:40

The provenance of these Masonic medals makes them

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even more desirable.

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And this family of Beswick may have been split up at auction,

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but I'm sure they'll stay in touch.

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And we are back at the auction room. But first,

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I want to find out more about that unusual piece of glass.

0:36:010:36:05

Rene Lalique car mascot,

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I've never come across anything like this before in my life.

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The good thing is, this is signed R Lalique,

0:36:100:36:13

so it's before he died.

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-It is a great name.

-It is. And for me, you know,

0:36:140:36:17

you can just see that on the radiator of a Hispano-Suiza

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or a Phantom Rolls or, you know, a wonderful Bugatti or something.

0:36:210:36:26

He started making these as a direct commission for Citroen cars

0:36:260:36:30

in 1925, but I don't think that many have been made.

0:36:300:36:33

-No, no.

-It's the first I've seen.

-And we've had a lot of interest.

0:36:330:36:36

I bet you have. There's a lot of interest in car mascots.

0:36:360:36:39

We've seen it on the show before.

0:36:390:36:41

I think you are going to hit two collectors with this.

0:36:410:36:43

I think you'll hit the car mascot collector

0:36:430:36:46

and the Lalique collector.

0:36:460:36:48

We have had interest from France for this.

0:36:480:36:49

Great, cos I think that's where it'll go, or possibly America.

0:36:490:36:53

-I know one was sold recently in America, it was a fox.

-Yeah.

0:36:530:36:56

It was a glass car mascot of a fox.

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And it made £130,000.

0:36:580:37:00

-Over 200,000 in the States.

-Fingers crossed.

0:37:000:37:04

Let's hope our bird will fly.

0:37:040:37:05

Don't go away, whatever you do, cos this is going to get exciting.

0:37:050:37:08

With over 1,000 lots up for grabs, it's no wonder

0:37:100:37:12

things are hotting up in the auction room.

0:37:120:37:15

So, first, to the Beswick.

0:37:150:37:17

Going under the hammer right now,

0:37:170:37:19

we've got everybody's favourite - Beatrix Potter figures.

0:37:190:37:23

We've all had them. I've had them. You've had them, I bet.

0:37:230:37:26

-Yep, lots of christening presents.

-Yes.

0:37:260:37:28

Initially, this group came in as one lot with a valuation of 80 to 120.

0:37:280:37:32

Now, Philip has decided to split them into two lots.

0:37:320:37:35

-Yes.

-OK?

-Yeah.

0:37:350:37:37

-But with the same value still, but we just split them up.

-Yeah.

0:37:370:37:39

So, I think he thinks that hopefully you might get a little bit more.

0:37:390:37:43

Yeah. It makes it more accessible to collectors who perhaps have got

0:37:430:37:46

-one of the figures.

-Exactly. They don't want to double up.

-Exactly.

0:37:460:37:49

Well, this is just the first lot going under the hammer.

0:37:490:37:51

-In a second lot, we've got the shire horse and the bull.

-That's right.

0:37:510:37:55

OK, well, let's see what the bidders think of the first lot.

0:37:550:37:59

At 675, is the five various Beatrix Potter figures.

0:37:590:38:04

And I start at £100.

0:38:040:38:06

At £100 only. At 100.

0:38:060:38:08

At £100 only. At 100.

0:38:080:38:10

Two very similar commission bids.

0:38:100:38:12

At £100 only.

0:38:120:38:14

At 100. Any more at all?

0:38:140:38:16

At £100 and they are done

0:38:160:38:18

and sold to the maiden bid then at 100 and done.

0:38:180:38:21

£100.

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That's one group down, we're almost at the top end of the estimate.

0:38:230:38:26

And here's the second group coming up now.

0:38:260:38:28

Lot number 676,

0:38:280:38:31

and I bid another £100 to start.

0:38:310:38:34

At 100, 100, 100.

0:38:340:38:36

-Oh, £100 again.

-At £100 only.

0:38:360:38:37

At 100. Is there any more?

0:38:370:38:39

At 100. 100.

0:38:390:38:41

-Any more?

-Same bidder, I bet. He left 100 on each lot.

0:38:410:38:45

-Thank you.

-His hand's gone down, no messing about with Philip there.

0:38:450:38:48

£100 again. Total of £200.

0:38:480:38:51

And the final of the Beswick lots is coming up right now.

0:38:510:38:55

-You've already got £200.

-Yep.

0:38:550:38:57

-Let's see if we can get another £200.

-Let's hope so.

0:38:570:39:02

-It's the bull.

-Yes, and...

-The horse.

0:39:020:39:04

Here we go, we're going to find out now.

0:39:040:39:06

Lot number 702 is the Beswick model of a dairy shorthorn bull.

0:39:060:39:10

There we are.

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Together with a Beswick model of a grey shire horse.

0:39:110:39:13

Lots and lots of interest.

0:39:130:39:15

And I start at £250.

0:39:150:39:19

Straight in at the top end.

0:39:190:39:20

-Bonus.

-Bonus, yeah.

0:39:200:39:23

-At £250 only. At 260. 270.

-Oh!

0:39:230:39:26

270. At 270.

0:39:260:39:29

280. 290.

0:39:290:39:31

-Fantastic!

-Great.

0:39:310:39:32

300 on the net.

0:39:320:39:34

300. 310 with me. 310.

0:39:340:39:37

At £310

0:39:370:39:39

and I sell then at £310...

0:39:390:39:42

And 20. 320.

0:39:420:39:45

At 320 on the net.

0:39:450:39:47

-320!

-£320. Any more?

0:39:470:39:49

At £320, I sell then at £320.

0:39:490:39:53

And done. Thank you.

0:39:530:39:55

And it has gone down. 320, that's a grand total of £520!

0:39:550:39:59

-Great!

-That's going to come in handy.

-It is.

0:39:590:40:01

There is commission to pay, don't forget. Don't forget.

0:40:010:40:04

You can maximise your return at auction by separating your lots.

0:40:040:40:08

So, talk to your auctioneer if you are considering doing this.

0:40:080:40:12

I have just been joined by Janet and Claire, mum and daughter,

0:40:130:40:16

and we have got the medals, remember the medals?

0:40:160:40:18

-Well, one has been withdrawn now.

-Yes.

-Am I right?

-Yes.

0:40:180:40:21

-You're going to keep it in the family.

-Yes.

0:40:210:40:23

You've had a think about this, and it is a big move, isn't it?

0:40:230:40:26

You don't want sell everything because they are memories,

0:40:260:40:29

your family's history.

0:40:290:40:30

-You're going to keep that one.

-Yes.

-OK.

0:40:300:40:32

We did originally have a valuation of £600 to £800 from Christina.

0:40:320:40:36

-Yep.

-So, we now have a new valuation for the three.

-Yes.

0:40:360:40:40

I have been guided by Philip on this one,

0:40:400:40:42

-at £400 to £600 for the three.

-Yes.

-Well, good luck.

-Thank you.

0:40:420:40:45

They are going under the hammer right now.

0:40:450:40:47

Philip is on the rostrum, and here we go.

0:40:470:40:49

There you are, then, who is going to bid me £400 to start? Thank you.

0:40:490:40:52

-Went straight in, look at that.

-At 400.

-Brilliant.

-420. 450. 480. 500.

0:40:520:40:57

Yes? 500 bid.

0:40:570:40:59

At 500. 520. 550.

0:40:590:41:01

580. 600. At £600 only. At 600.

0:41:010:41:05

At £600 only.

0:41:050:41:07

-There's the bid at £600.

-Brilliant.

0:41:070:41:08

You are going to need these in a minute.

0:41:080:41:10

At £600 only.

0:41:100:41:12

At £600 only. At 600. Any more?

0:41:120:41:14

There's the bid, at £600.

0:41:140:41:17

And I sell then at £600...and done.

0:41:170:41:19

-Thank you.

-Good result, considering we were one medal down.

0:41:190:41:23

-You have got to be very happy with that.

-Yes.

-Yes?

0:41:230:41:26

-That's brilliant! Well done.

-I am, thank you.

0:41:260:41:28

-Well, thank you for bringing them in.

-Yes, thank you.

-That was great.

0:41:280:41:31

Thank you ever so much. A great result.

0:41:310:41:33

Not only did the medals make some good money,

0:41:340:41:36

but one is staying in the family for future generations.

0:41:360:41:40

Right, it's one of those moments I have been waiting for

0:41:400:41:43

and looking forward to - the Rene Lalique car mascot. Hello, Sue.

0:41:430:41:47

-Hello.

-This has been rather exciting because, you know,

0:41:470:41:50

recently one of these car mascots made the headlines

0:41:500:41:53

in the Antiques Trade Gazette.

0:41:530:41:55

-Not the falcon, though.

-No, no, it was the fox.

0:41:550:41:57

You know that. But it sold for over 200,000.

0:41:570:41:59

You know, they are sought-after.

0:41:590:42:01

Yes. I think that this one is slightly damaged.

0:42:010:42:04

Well, nevertheless, it is really exciting. It is lovely to see.

0:42:040:42:07

So, let's see with the bidders think.

0:42:070:42:09

It is going under the hammer right now.

0:42:090:42:10

Lot number 640

0:42:100:42:13

is the Rene Lalique mascot, the car mascot.

0:42:130:42:17

Bids on the line, bids on the book and bids on the net,

0:42:170:42:21

so, who has got, I don't know, £300 to start?

0:42:210:42:23

Nobody wants it?

0:42:250:42:26

Good.

0:42:270:42:29

-500.

-500, thank you.

0:42:290:42:31

-I bid £500 only. £500.

-That's a good start.

0:42:310:42:34

At £500 only. At 520.

0:42:340:42:37

-We like that.

-I'm surprised already.

-Yeah, we do.

0:42:370:42:41

At 520.

0:42:410:42:42

550. On the telephone, at 580.

0:42:420:42:45

On the net at 580.

0:42:450:42:46

That's the beauty of auctions, isn't it? You know.

0:42:460:42:49

-Two people, what more.

-Exactly.

0:42:490:42:51

600 on the telephone. 620 on the net. 650. 680.

0:42:510:42:57

700. £700 only on the telephone.

0:42:570:43:01

720.

0:43:010:43:03

At £720 on the net.

0:43:040:43:07

At 720. Is there any more?

0:43:070:43:09

At £720...and done. Thank you.

0:43:090:43:13

-That's made its money, 720.

-Amazing.

-That is fabulous!

0:43:130:43:17

I thought seven to eight if it was perfect.

0:43:170:43:19

-I never thought it would make anything like that.

-No, I didn't.

0:43:190:43:22

Chip or no chip, it is a beautiful bird.

0:43:230:43:26

So, out of all the classic Flog It! items today,

0:43:280:43:31

it was the Moorcroft that made the most at £1,100.

0:43:310:43:35

Well, that's it, another day in another auction.

0:43:360:43:39

We've had a fabulous time here, everyone has gone home happy.

0:43:390:43:42

All credit to our experts and Mr Philip Serrell

0:43:420:43:44

on the rostrum. He has done us proud.

0:43:440:43:47

And what a marvellous day I had at Hereford Cathedral.

0:43:470:43:49

Now we know a little bit more about it.

0:43:490:43:51

Join us again soon for many more surprises,

0:43:510:43:54

but until then, from Malvern, it's goodbye.

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