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"Flog It!" travels around the country

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and, today, we're in the south.

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This is Portsmouth Harbour. That's a naval ship coming into dock.

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Over there, is a ferry leaving for the Isle of Wight.

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And here is HMS Warrior, our venue for our valuation day.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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Portsmouth is well known for being the UK's only island city.

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Considering this,

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it's perhaps no surprise it boasts 800 years of British naval history.

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Today, it's home to over 60% of its fleet.

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Things are looking shipshape as the Flog It! fans start to queue

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for our valuation day.

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We're certainly adding to the buzz of the dockyards today.

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But can you believe, back in the docks's heyday,

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in the early part of the 20th century,

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22,000 men and women worked here.

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I know we don't have that sort of number here today,

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in our massive queue,

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but I tell you what, we're going to be working just as hard,

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because our experts do have their work cut out.

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All of this crowd of people want to know that all-important question,

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-which is...

-ALL: What's it worth?!

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-If they're happy with the valuation, what are you going to do?

-ALL: Flog it!

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And the experts on the look out today are...

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-You're my favourite, by the way.

-Oh, bless you.

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Have you got that? Have we got that?

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Michael Baggott manning the cannons.

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-Hello, sir, how are you?

-I'm very well, thanks.

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And our very own master and commander, Will Axon.

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So let's not keep everyone waiting any longer. It's anchors aweigh.

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Coming up on today's show,

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two items picked up from a jumble sale.

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One bought for 10p, one bought for £2.

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Which do you think makes 3,000 times the purchase price at auction?

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So, first to the table, a man with an eagle eye for a bargain.

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-Derek.

-Hi.

-Um, you don't appear to have me anything today.

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Where's it hiding?

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-In my...

-Ooh, parcels and packaging.

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In my bit of tissue.

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-Good grief.

-My box.

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Good grief. Are you a box collector, Derek?

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No, I'm not a box collector.

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Just things I like and I've just seen it and I buy it.

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I got it from a jumble sale. So it didn't cost enough.

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-Let me stop you there. Where did you get it from?

-From a jumble sale.

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-Was it on the table top?

-No.

-Where was this jumble sale, Derek?!

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I can't remember where the jumble is, because I go to loads of jumble sales,

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but when I was at the bric-a-brac table,

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where I normally go first,

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I always look under the table. You never know what's under the table.

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I see a box under the table

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and I see all these bits of brass items in the box.

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I've gone under the table amongst the legs and I've mooched through the box,

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this cardboard box, and I've found this little box in there.

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So, you haven't got time to think, really,

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because of all the people around you. I thought, "That's nice."

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I got up and held it up and said to the lady, "How much is that?"

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She said 10p. I said, "OK, all right, I'll have that, then."

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I paid my 10p and went round looking for other things.

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I think I might have broken the sound barrier

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getting the 10p out of my pocket and into her hand.

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That's probably because you know what you're doing.

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-Was this a long time ago?

-A couple of years ago, yeah.

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That's not a long time ago, Derek.

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It shows it's worthwhile persevering with jumble sales and car boots.

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You bought it. Do you know what it is?

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-Well, I've heard just recently that it's a pillbox.

-Right. It isn't.

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-Go on.

-It just shows you how much I do know!

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Honestly, to me, it was just a little brass box with a nice hunting scene on it.

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I just liked it, so I've just kept it on my dresser.

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-First of all, not a pillbox. It's a snuffbox.

-Oh, is it? Right.

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It's a really lovely bit of genuine 18th-century silver gilt.

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-Nice, that's nice.

-It's a proper thing.

-It is real, yeah. Nice.

-And it's rare.

-Is it?

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Um, and probably the best snuffbox us we've ever seen on Flog It!

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I don't believe that, honestly.

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If we open it up, we would hope to find marks in the cover,

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in the base and on the inside, if it were French.

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Mm-hm.

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But it's German in a French style.

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This box, unmarked,

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-dates to about 1760, 1765.

-Really?

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-So it's mid-18th century.

-Is it really?

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-The hunting scene...

-Beautiful, isn't it?

-..that's very typical of German work.

-Right.

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But this ground, the geometric ground,

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this is very typical of French boxes of 1760, 1765.

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And we date it... How do we date it? It's the shape, it's the style.

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It's the form of the engraving.

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If we look underneath.

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There are no marks, but there's a little bit of white showing through.

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-I could tell you a story about that.

-What's the story?

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Well, last night, in amongst... I thought it was engine turned.

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There were bits of black there, so I got a little needle and scratched it out.

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I thought, "I wonder...?"

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I got a toothbrush with a little bit of Fairy Liquid on it.

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You cleaned it all out?

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-Yeah.

-Lovely. I'm glad to you did, because we can see it's silver now.

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-So not brass.

-Nice.

-Is a shame it's not marked.

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-Marked would make...

-A lot of difference, yeah.

-..a big difference to it.

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-I don't want to build you up too much.

-Go on!

-No, I know.

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Value.

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Return on 10p. What do we reckon?

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-I would have said 20, 30 quid, personally.

-Give you 40 now.

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-Thanks very much.

-I expect you would!

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-Um, let's put £300 to £500 on it.

-Really?

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-Let's put a fixed reserve of £300.

-Really?

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-Hallmarked, we would be 600 to 900, 700 to 1,000.

-Gosh!

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It's a really super box

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and it deserves to be in a really splendid box collector's collection.

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And for 10p, I don't think you could ever beat it.

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If it didn't look so nice, I'd have probably taken it down the car boot

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and sold it for a few quid, wouldn't I?

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-It was meant to be, Derek.

-It was. Thank you very much.

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-Thank you for making my day today.

-You're a good man.

-Thanks very much indeed.

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From a jumble sale to an auction with expert advice along the way.

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That's what Flog It! is all about.

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And next, Will's gone ashore to get his hands on a not-so-lethal weapon.

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Well, Dennis, we've seen some big guns on board HMS Warrior

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and you've brought along your own little gun.

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The guns on there were never fired in anger. There's a fact.

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-Tell me, was this ever fired in anger?

-No, not in anger,

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but against some toy soldiers when I was about 12!

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That's what it is. It's a proper boy's toy here.

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I'm going to clear the decks,

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because you brought it along in this box. Slazenger?

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I don't think they made toy cannons. Tennis balls.

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-Where's this come from?

-Well, when was in my teens,

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I bought tennis balls that had been used at Wimbledon in 1950.

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-You've got the date there, look.

-Yes!

-I tell you what, on another show in another universe,

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we'll do that one, but we'll put it to one side for the moment

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and concentrate on what you brought in with it.

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At first glance, I thought it's just an old tin-plate toy.

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An old cannon. I had a closer look and it's really well made, isn't it?

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-Extremely well made.

-Super quality. You tell me.

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It's got some little bullets. How did it all work?

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-The bullets went into the breach like that.

-Yes.

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These are rubber bullets, so they shouldn't do the soldiers too much damage.

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And, um, you had to pull up the lever, which brings the breach out.

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-You put some caps in there.

-Little percussion caps.

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Which are difficult to get hold of now and I haven't got any, unfortunately,

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otherwise I could have given you a demonstration.

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-China, I reckon.

-And then to fire it, bang.

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That sets off the percussion cap.

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-And this bullet here.

-It goes ba-dum!

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What fun. I see we've got a maker's mark on top.

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I can see "and company".

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"Cie", which is the French version of "and Co".

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Is this something you brought over from France yourself?

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No, the story of this was I had an uncle

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who was a company sergeant major in the Lancashire Regiment.

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-He came out of France at Dunkirk.

-Wow!

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He always used to come to our London flat to see my mother,

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who brought him up as a small boy.

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He actually ran away from home and joined the Army at 14.

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Lied about his age, probably?

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-He did.

-Like my grandfather.

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Anyway, he came back and said, "I've only got two things."

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He said, "I've got my service pistol, which I should've handed in."

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And he said, "I've bought a present for you." And this was the present.

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-Wow.

-And I know nothing more about it.

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Unfortunately, Uncle John, John Moss, he got killed in the Battle of the Bulge.

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-Really?

-Which was a great shame, yes. Anyway...

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-His legacy, as it were?

-His legacy.

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I've had it is so long. I've had it about 72 years, I worked out.

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But I think the thing is to flog it.

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Well, that's the name of the game. The clue's in the title, isn't it?

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With regards to value, what would have been really nice is if it had come in an original box.

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I think with the box, as with everything,

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certainly toys and the model market, that's what they're after.

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Value-wise, I'm going to come in at around the £50 mark.

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It may not sound like a lot of money for the amount of work that's probably gone into it.

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-How do you feel about putting it in?

-I would put it in there.

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What I think is probably whether we could put a £10 or £20 reserve on it.

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Oh, don't be daft, I'd give you that now myself.

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It's got to make £10 or £20.

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Let's put a £20 fixed reserve on it.

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Let's put the estimate at 40 to 60.

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-Let's straddle the £50 mark.

-OK.

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It's been a pleasure talking to you. I enjoyed listening to your story

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-and I look forward to seeing you at the sale room.

-We certainly will.

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I've never been to an auction sale.

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-But you're a keen follower of "Flog It!".

-I am.

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I record every episode that goes out on the television, I've got it recorded.

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Good work, Dennis.

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-Who's your favourite expert on the show?

-You.

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Me?!

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-Will.

-Will!

-Will?

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Well it's a good job he's here today. And he's up there, look.

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-He's spotted a real gem. And Michael Baggott?

-He's nice and cuddly!

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Aw! I tell you what, all our experts are pretty good

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and the more you listen to them,

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the more you can learn, and that's what it's all about.

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'And there's no-one better to pick up some tips from

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'than Michael Baggott.'

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You've brought in this lovely Morocco leather case.

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I love Victorian Morocco leather cases, because they've usually got something fantastic inside.

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-Let's have a look. Wow. That's rather impressive.

-It is.

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-Not something you wear on a day-to-day basis.

-Not generally.

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-What's the history with it?

-It belongs to my husband.

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He believes it belonged to his great uncle, who was a Bishop of Selby.

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-Good Lord.

-I don't know how far we're going back.

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-He was also a Masonic Grand Chaplain.

-Fantastic. I'm glad you said that.

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That's about all we know.

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Looking at it, it looks initially to me to be a Masonic jewel.

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-We've got the scales and we've got the compass.

-Yes.

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Then you would expect to see plumb lines, hammers, the all-seeing eye.

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But, instead, we've got the iconography of the crown,

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the rose, the cross and the pelican in her piety.

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OK.

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Um, if we turn it over, and there we go,

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we've got the egret almost resurrected, with the cross to its head.

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We've got this lovely little rose in enamel.

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-The whole thing, it's not silver or gold. It's gilt metal.

-Right.

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So, basically, probably copper, which has been electro-gilded

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-and silvered, but it's lovely, lovely quality.

-Yes.

-Um...

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I mean, they're tricky things, because they're never things that,

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-apart from within a Masonic Order, you would ever wear, or ever get out or use.

-No.

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So it falls into a very narrow band

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of collectors of Masonic regalia and memorabilia.

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You said you weren't sure of date.

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I'm pretty sure, from the style of the box and the way this is made,

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-that it's somewhere between 1880 and maybe 1900.

-OK.

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-So late Victorian.

-Yes.

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-Um, why now has your... Because it's your husband's?

-It is.

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Why has he said bring this along to Flog It?

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We were curious to know a little bit more about it.

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It's not something we have on display.

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To be honest, we didn't realise we had it until a few weeks ago.

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Well, at auction, let's be cautious, and let's say £50 to £100.

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It's quite a wide banding,

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-because I haven't seen this precise jewel before.

-Right.

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So it has the potential to do more. It's lovely it's in its fitted case.

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-There's nothing wrong with the condition of it.

-Good.

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So let's put a reserve of £50

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-and I hope it will make very much more than that on the day.

-OK.

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Two Masonic collectors head to head,

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-we could see a couple of hundred pounds.

-Great.

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-Thank you for bringing it in.

-Thank you very much.

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Over the years, we've seen many pieces of Masonic regalia

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on Flog It! and some far exceed our expectations under the hammer.

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Just like in Worcester, back in 2007,

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when Jennifer's Masonic watch was given an estimate of £100 to £150.

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But time would tell that it sold for a whopping £800

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At £800, and I sell at 800, and done.

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-Brilliant!

-What a wonderful moment.

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That'll be good next week!

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Let's hope the medal is as popular as its predecessors

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and causes a stir at the auction room.

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It's a real treat to be filming on board such a historic vessel

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and it really is bringing history alive for me.

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HMS Warrior was built in 1860.

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It was the first iron-hulled battleship

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and it was the heaviest in Queen Victoria's Navy,

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weighing in at 9,210 tons.

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She is not only powered by sail, but also by steam

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and, later on, I will go below decks to see the heaviest anchors in the world

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and I can't wait for that.

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Right now, it's time to put our first valuations to the test.

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Here's a quick recap of what's going under the hammer.

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Derek bought his snuffbox for 10 pence

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and he's about to turn it into a profit.

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But can you guess how much?

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Dennis's toy's a well-manufactured miniature weapon.

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But will a collector want it without its box?

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Masonic regalia has a strong track record at auction,

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so we're hoping this medal will get gold.

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For today's auction, we've travelled 30 miles north-east

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to Andrew Smith's auction house, where the sale is already under way.

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So without further ado,

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let's see how that Masonic medal fares under the hammer.

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We've got that gorgeous Victorian Masonic medal

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belonging to Ru, who's right next to me.

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-Who've you brought along with you?

-This is my mum, Helen.

-Helen, hello.

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How'd you do? Nice to meet you. What do you think of this medal?

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-I've only seen it briefly. I hope it does well.

-A lovely thing.

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We're looking around £50-100.

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Yes, I mean, on the day, I haven't seen one before.

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I've done a bit of research,

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they're probably not as rare as I thought they were,

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but I think we've got the price right.

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Right. Let's flog it in this busy auction room. Good luck. This is it.

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We have a commissioned bid.

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I'm going to start the bidding at £50, is there 5 in the room?

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55, 60.

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And 5. 70 and 5. 80 and 5.

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At £80 commission bid. Is there 5?

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At £80. Any more?

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At £80 with me. At £80.

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The last time at £80.

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-Well done with the estimate, Michael.

-Good.

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It doesn't have to go home.

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It doesn't go back in that box, in that drawer.

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Don't have to go home and enjoy it!

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It may not have made a fortune like some Masonic pieces we've seen,

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but £80 isn't bad for something you didn't even know you had.

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This next lot should go off with a big bang.

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It's Dennis's toy cannon and it's good to be joined by you Dennis.

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-You're smiling, you're happy today?

-Yes.

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-Is it going to be a sad day, saying goodbye to this?

-Er, well, yes.

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It was your uncle's. A lot of history here.

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Well, yeah, I mean, but, you know, I shall be 80 in five months' time.

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-Nearly 80. Have you got any plans?

-Yes.

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My wife's taking me on a cruise from Halifax, Nova Scotia

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via Bermuda to the Caribbean.

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And, on the penultimate day of our cruise, is my 80th birthday.

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That's what I call a plan.

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Yeah. We're looking forward to it.

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-We've got to give you some spending money.

-Yes. That's a good idea!

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Yes, the bar bills can creep up a bit.

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Those sundowners. A G&T on the top deck!

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-HE CHUCKLES

-Anyway, good luck. Fingers crossed.

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It's going under the hammer now.

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Start me at £50. £50?

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£50? £40, surely.

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£40. 30, then, to get it going?

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-£30? £30. £30 I have. Thank you.

-We're in.

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32. 35. 37.

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-Are you sure?

-I'm not too sure!

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-It's always worth another go.

-Go on, then.

-37.

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-40. And 2.

-It's away.

-45. 47.

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At £45. On my right at £45, we are selling, make no mistake.

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At £45. Last time.

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-The hammer's gone down. £45, it sold.

-Good.

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-You were spot on.

-Thank you.

-That's what you expected.

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-Enjoy your cruise. I shall be thinking of you jealously.

-I am.

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-I'd love to go to Nova Scotia.

-That will buy a few bottles of wine.

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-It will do.

-Think about us when you uncork it.

-I will do. Yes.

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This next lot, the gilt snuffbox, is a classic Flog It! story.

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Picked up for 10 pence a couple of years ago.

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The kind of stories we like to see, and good for you, Derek.

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You're a self-confessed - get ready for this, Michael - moocher.

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-That's a new one on me.

-Mooching about at the car boot sales and jumbles.

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-Mooching.

-It's paid off.

-It has. And you do it every Saturday.

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-Mooching about.

-That's right, yeah.

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-How many jumbles did you do this weekend?

-Saturday, I went to three.

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-Three?

-My Saturday is jumble-sale day.

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-Is your house full of, sort of, well I can't say...

-Rubbish!

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-LAUGHTER

-I was going to.

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You're allowed to!

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I was going to say sort of tat...

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-There is tat amongst it.

-Somebody's trash is somebody else's treasure.

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-Absolutely.

-Let's put your mooching to the test. It's going under the hammer right now.

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-I wish you luck on this. It's a lot of money.

-It's a lovely box, though.

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-Nice box.

-It is a nice box, yes.

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We should have a telephone here. Where's the telephone? Right.

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-Right down there.

-One phone bidder booked, Derek.

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Um, so, lot 230, start me at £400. £400?

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£400. Try 3. £300.

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-We're in.

-300 we have. And 20. At £300 and selling.

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Is there a 20?

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At £300, to the telephone. Is there any more. At £300, are you sure?

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Last time at £300.

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-It's gone.

-Good return on 10 pence.

-That's fantastic.

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-Absolutely fantastic.

-I'm happy with that.

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-You've got to be over the moon with that.

-It's cool. It's nice.

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-It's an ongoing passion.

-Of course.

-It throws up a gem like that.

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-And that's a lovely little gem.

-It was, yes.

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Thanks to that man there. Good man. Thank you.

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So Derek multiplied the 10 pence he paid for the snuffbox by 3,000.

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It just shows. Keep your eyes peeled at those jumble sales.

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There you are. The auction's still going on in there

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but that's the end of our first three lots.

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Under the hammer and so far, so good.

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Right now, it's time for me to return

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to the Historic Dockyard in Portsmouth

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to explore the oldest-surviving commissioned warship in the world.

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HMS Victory, a national icon, famous for her leading role

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in the greatest British naval victory of all time - the Battle of Trafalgar.

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Vice Admiral Horatio Nelson's flagship and his death bed.

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A complex machine of war and a thing of beauty.

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200 years after her active career has ended,

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this warship is once again under threat.

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But not from the Spanish or the French, but from time itself.

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Dry rot and the sheer weight of the timbers

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is causing this vessel to slowly falling on itself.

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This old lady of the sea is in desperate need of a make-over.

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And thanks to private investment to the tune of £25 million,

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coupled with help from the Ministry of Defence,

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I'm pleased to say restoration work is well and truly under way.

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You can see it and you can hear it.

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But with the economic climate as it is, some would argue

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expenditure on this scale is hard to justify.

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But I'm here today to tell you why HMS Victory rightfully deserves to be restored

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and why she should take her place at the top of British maritime history.

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This vessel carried 104 guns. She faced her enemy at close range.

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And she's left a legacy which should never be forgotten.

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Her story started in 1759.

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Plans and designs were organised

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by one of the greatest surveyors of the Navy at the time.

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It took 250 skilled shipwrights to build the hull of this magnificent vessel

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and they felled 5,000 oak trees to do it.

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This is the original decking.

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Once a hull was built, it was left to season in dry dock for three years,

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far longer than you would normally expect wood to dry out.

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But they left the wind to blow through it,

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taking out all the moisture content, which closed the grain up even tighter,

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making it impervious to rot and wear and damage.

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That's possibly the reason why this vessel has lasted such a long time.

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After all, she is the oldest commissioned naval warship in the world.

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After being launched in May 1765, it was 13 years later

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until HMS Victory was called to fight.

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But once she started, she didn't hold back

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and took part in more than ten battles under several different admirals.

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But her biggest fight took place in 1805

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against the increasing threat that was Napoleon Bonaparte.

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HMS Victory would now set sail on its greatest voyage ever

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under the command of Vice Admiral Lord Nelson,

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who was now recognised for his unconventional tactics.

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When he set sail on the Victory, he'd already lost an arm,

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and the sight in one eye, in battle.

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But it seemed he and the vessel were fearless in their ambition to protect Britain.

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But could their combined might defeat Napoleon Bonaparte?

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Britain's flagship, HMS Victory, spanned 227ft.

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She housed 820 crew, could reach a speed of 10 knots

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and displaced a weight of 3,500 tons.

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But the French and the Spanish had twice as many flagships.

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Napoleon was arrogantly confident.

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He thought the combined might of the Spanish and French warships

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would be too much for Nelson and his fleet.

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But his military experience was on land, not at sea.

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Nelson, however, understood the ocean.

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He assembled his officers here in his cabin, around this very table.

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There's history in the making here.

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But Nelson's plan was simple and effective.

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He would sail up behind the enemy, split his fleet into two columns

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and surround the rear of the enemy line, isolating it.

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His clever thinking was orchestrated to a devastating effect.

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17 French ships were captured

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and a knock-out blow was delivered to the flagship, the Bucentaure.

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The battle was won.

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But while HMS Victory survived, Nelson was shot, right here on this very deck.

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That brass plaque marks the spot where he was shot by a French marksman.

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He lived long enough to know the battle was won,

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but later died below deck.

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His body was preserved in a barrel of brandy for the long and arduous journey back home.

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She returned to Portsmouth, where, ultimately, she would rest.

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In 1922, restoration began

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and it continues today.

0:26:050:26:07

I went to talk to curator Andrew Baines about the current work.

0:26:090:26:13

Talk me through some of the restoration you're doing. What are you tackling next?

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Well, we're almost starting at the top and working down.

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Almost every aspect of the ship is going to be examined

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and repaired where necessary.

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As you can see, she's without the top mast at the minute.

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We need to fully refurbish the rigging.

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We've got problems with rot in the ship, where we have rainwater penetrating.

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That means some timbers are going to need to be taken out and replaced.

0:26:350:26:38

I gather you're using some pretty impressive technology today.

0:26:380:26:41

Yeah. We've with got both ends of the spectrum.

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We've chaps on board using traditional caulking methods

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that would have been used to build the ship 250 years ago, and we're coming right up to date

0:26:460:26:50

with 21st-century techniques.

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We're doing laser scanning of the hull, both internal and external,

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so we will be able to build a 3D computer model

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that is accurate down to millimetre level.

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We're going to be doing a lot of conservation work,

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so making sure the original material we do have is protected.

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So I or my replacement can stand here 50 years from now

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and still say you're walking the deck that Nelson would have walked.

0:27:110:27:14

Having been on board HMS Victory,

0:27:210:27:22

I think the time and money spent on the restoration

0:27:220:27:26

is a testament to our historic naval past.

0:27:260:27:29

Standing here, it brings to life the accounts of how Nelson protected our country

0:27:290:27:35

and that is definitely worth investing in.

0:27:350:27:38

Just a few hundred yards from HMS Victory,

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across the Historic Dockyard, is our vessel for our valuation day - HMS Warrior.

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And Will has wandered ashore to value some art.

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Lynne, it's a matter of fact that when it comes down to art at auction,

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it's all about the artist's name.

0:28:040:28:07

You've got a piece that you've brought in by James Humbert Craig.

0:28:070:28:12

How have you come by this and do you know the artist?

0:28:120:28:14

I don't know it at all. I got it at a jumble sale about seven years ago.

0:28:140:28:19

My daughter looked it up on the internet

0:28:190:28:21

and said he's an Irish landscape artist.

0:28:210:28:24

You're right, yes. Born in the 1870s, died in 1944.

0:28:240:28:27

Born in Belfast.

0:28:270:28:29

An Irishman who was very passionate about his Irish roots, shall we say?

0:28:290:28:34

He really wanted to bring out the beauty and nature

0:28:340:28:39

of the Irish landscape, which we've got here.

0:28:390:28:42

I don't think this is one of his finished pieces.

0:28:420:28:45

Obviously, it's on a board.

0:28:450:28:46

It's on what we call an artist's board,

0:28:460:28:48

rather than on a finished stretched canvas.

0:28:480:28:51

But he's signed it for us, and dated it, 1912.

0:28:510:28:54

I suspect that he had that viewpoint when he was painting it,

0:28:540:28:58

because he was a man who liked to paint outdoors.

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Au plein air, they call it, similar to the Impressionists.

0:29:000:29:03

They went out with their paint boxes, a bit of artist's board,

0:29:030:29:07

and he would plant himself somewhere

0:29:070:29:09

where he saw a landscape or view that he liked and he would paint it.

0:29:090:29:12

-Do you like it?

-I do. That's why I bought it.

0:29:120:29:14

-It's been on the wall for the past seven years.

-Oh, it's been hanging?

0:29:140:29:17

-Oh, yeah.

-That's nice. I see it's got a little bit of damage.

0:29:170:29:21

-Was that there when you bought it?

-That was like that when I bought it.

0:29:210:29:24

I suspect if you bought it for £2, whoever who sold it probably didn't realise what it was.

0:29:240:29:28

It probably wasn't looked after well and maybe that's when it got this scuff.

0:29:280:29:31

His work sells for thousands of pounds. He's a well-known artist.

0:29:310:29:36

His finished canvases and his big pieces sell for many thousands,

0:29:360:29:40

because the Irish like to buy his work, as well.

0:29:400:29:43

-What do you like about it? Is it the colours, the scene?

-The scene.

0:29:430:29:47

It caught my eye and I thought that is really nice.

0:29:470:29:49

It is as though I was looking at that area.

0:29:490:29:52

Like I say, his finished work makes thousands,

0:29:520:29:55

but I'm going to come in quite conservative with the estimate on this.

0:29:550:30:00

You've told me how much you paid for it.

0:30:000:30:01

Hopefully, we'll turn it into a little bit of profit.

0:30:010:30:04

-I'm suggesting putting it in at an estimate of £100 to £200.

-Really?

0:30:040:30:08

-Yeah. How do you feel about that?

-That's wonderful!

-It's all right, isn't it?

0:30:080:30:12

Find one of those a day, you're laughing. You can give up the day job.

0:30:120:30:15

Listen, I'm going to check out the jumble sales around Portsmouth

0:30:150:30:19

-and see if I can...

-Gosport.

0:30:190:30:22

Gosport. Pick one of these up myself.

0:30:220:30:24

-It's the pleasure talking to you.

-Thank you.

-Thank you for bringing the picture in

0:30:240:30:28

I hope it's enlightened you. We'll see if we can make you go home a little richer.

0:30:280:30:31

-Thank you very much.

-Not at all.

0:30:310:30:33

Wow, it seems the jumble sales around here are more like gold mines!

0:30:330:30:38

HMS Warrior is here to be explored,

0:30:420:30:45

so I took my chance while the experts were still in full flow.

0:30:450:30:48

This is one of the capstans that would help lift one of the anchors.

0:30:500:30:54

There's four anchors. Each anchor weighs about 5.6 tons each.

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That's equivalent to four or five cars

0:31:000:31:02

and it would take 100 men to lift each anchor,

0:31:020:31:06

by virtue of these huge wooden beams put into this capstan.

0:31:060:31:09

That operation took five to six hours -

0:31:090:31:12

to get the anchor up from the bottom of the ocean sea.

0:31:120:31:15

That happened by virtue of the anchors attached to this huge, great big chain.

0:31:150:31:19

Look at the size of those links.

0:31:190:31:21

This would wrap around this, around the axle of that.

0:31:210:31:24

That would be turned by the guys hanging on to these great big oak beams,

0:31:240:31:30

driven into the sockets.

0:31:300:31:32

100 men turning this and winding it up and up and up and up

0:31:320:31:37

over a period of five hours just to get the anchor up.

0:31:370:31:40

You can imagine. Four anchors coming up - that's 400 men.

0:31:400:31:43

There was no such thing as a quick getaway at sea.

0:31:430:31:46

Valuations are still taking place on and off the Warrior.

0:31:550:31:59

So let's catch up with Michael and his latest haul.

0:31:590:32:02

Gerry, thank you for bringing in this table full of silver.

0:32:040:32:08

Does the house look bare at home, now you've brought these in?

0:32:080:32:10

HE LAUGHS Slightly!

0:32:100:32:12

-Where have you had these?

-In the glass cabinet in the front room,

0:32:120:32:16

-in the house where we've been for the last 50 years.

-Right.

0:32:160:32:20

Did you buy them, or were they inherited?

0:32:200:32:23

They were bequeathed to my wife,

0:32:230:32:25

I believe just before we were married in '53.

0:32:250:32:28

You've kept them in beautiful condition.

0:32:280:32:31

Normally, these vases get dents and knocks.

0:32:310:32:34

But I think being in the cabinet, out of harm's way, has done a lot to help.

0:32:340:32:39

What's very interesting is we've got two different towns, but the same dates.

0:32:390:32:42

So these four were made in Birmingham,

0:32:420:32:45

but this two-pair set, which I think were always a set,

0:32:450:32:48

because they have the same pattern, design and maker,

0:32:480:32:51

are also the same year, but made in London.

0:32:510:32:54

-Any idea when they were made?

-None whatsoever.

0:32:540:32:57

I had a look at the hallmarks here

0:32:570:32:58

and we've got the maker's mark of Horace Woodward & Co Ltd,

0:32:580:33:03

London, 1898. They've survived beautifully.

0:33:030:33:07

They are, of course, flower vases

0:33:070:33:10

for a little bouquet or a single posy.

0:33:100:33:13

We don't really use them any more.

0:33:130:33:15

You're more likely to get the old milk bottle out, fill it with water

0:33:150:33:19

and stick a flower in that!

0:33:190:33:22

From that respect, this is what affects their value.

0:33:220:33:25

Things either have to be collectable or useful to be of premium value.

0:33:250:33:31

And, sadly, because they were machine made,

0:33:310:33:34

they're not something that's really collected.

0:33:340:33:38

As a consequence, they're going to have a value.

0:33:380:33:41

It's not based on their silver value.

0:33:410:33:43

You might pick these up and think they're quite heavy.

0:33:430:33:45

They've actually got lead in the base to keep them steady,

0:33:450:33:48

so negligible silver weight.

0:33:480:33:50

They're just nice decorative vases.

0:33:500:33:52

Any idea of what the value might be?

0:33:520:33:54

No. I suggested 150, between 150 and 200.

0:33:540:33:59

I think that's on the low side, but it's sensible.

0:33:590:34:03

It's a sensible figure to put them into auction. Let's say £150-£250.

0:34:030:34:08

Let's put a fixed reserve of 150, if you're happy with that?

0:34:080:34:11

Very happy, yes.

0:34:110:34:12

We'll get them out of the cabinet

0:34:120:34:14

and hopefully onto a forward-thinking young person's dining table

0:34:140:34:17

with a flower in them. That would be the way to go.

0:34:170:34:19

Thank you so much for bringing them in.

0:34:190:34:22

-Thank you.

-It's a pleasure.

0:34:220:34:23

Will's back on the deck

0:34:260:34:28

and has also found himself some silver with a very special story.

0:34:280:34:32

Gillian, I'm used to seeing the mother-of-pearl-handled silver fruit knives,

0:34:330:34:38

but you've brought along its companion,

0:34:380:34:41

the little - let me open it up -

0:34:410:34:42

silver and mother-of-pearl-handled fruit fork, as well.

0:34:420:34:47

Tell me how have you come by them?

0:34:470:34:49

I was a mission nurse in South Africa

0:34:490:34:53

on an Anglican mission.

0:34:530:34:55

The matron there gave me this particular one,

0:34:550:34:59

she gave me the knife to begin with.

0:34:590:35:02

When she came home, she was unpacking her goods to go into her house

0:35:020:35:06

and she found the fork, as well, so she gave me that.

0:35:060:35:09

Oh, she had a good memory, as well. Well remembered.

0:35:090:35:11

That was lucky for you.

0:35:110:35:13

Because I think it's delightful, the fact that you've got both.

0:35:130:35:15

The knife and the fork,

0:35:150:35:16

because, invariably, the fork gets lost,

0:35:160:35:19

because it's the knife that's the most useful thing to carry in your pocket.

0:35:190:35:22

A light pocket knife. Let me take you back a couple of steps.

0:35:220:35:27

You say you were at a mission in South Africa,

0:35:270:35:29

that must've been something. When were you there?

0:35:290:35:31

I was there from '62 to '77.

0:35:310:35:35

-How was that as an experience?

-It was great.

0:35:350:35:37

I was working with people who had not seen other Europeans before.

0:35:370:35:41

They used to walk all day to the mission.

0:35:410:35:43

It kind of puts it into perspective.

0:35:430:35:45

You've got people who are living like that,

0:35:450:35:47

and that's in the mid-20th century and later.

0:35:470:35:50

But in 1822, there were some people who were lucky enough to have

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refined pieces like this in their pocket for eating fruit.

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So looking at the hallmarks, I can see they are Sheffield hallmarks.

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You got them in South Africa,

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they were taken out there by your friend the matron.

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Then you brought one of them back. She brought the other one back and here they are in Portsmouth.

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-What sort of value would you put on them?

-I have no idea.

-No?

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I mean, I would like to put them in at £60-£80.

0:36:130:36:17

-How do you feel about that?

-That's fine.

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What are you going to do with the money?

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The money will go back to South Africa,

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because my church supports an orphanage in Kalicha.

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Oh, that's wonderful.

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So the money will go to that.

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Listen, you can't get a better ending for a story,

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-going full circle.

-No.

-I think that's great.

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That's it. Our experts have made their final choices of items

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to take auction so, sadly, we have to say goodbye

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to the Historic Dockyard here at Portsmouth

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and, of course, to HMS Warrior, our venue for today.

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What a wonderful connection to maritime history.

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It doesn't get much better than this.

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It makes you think of the voyages this boat has made

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and also all the skill and craftsmanship that's gone into making this

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and maintaining it. Sadly it's time to say goodbye.

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Let's get to auction for the last time and here's the cargo

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that we're taking with us.

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Lynne's painting was bought for £2.

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What percentage profit to you think it will make in the sale room?

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And will it be Michael's silver vases, or Will's silver knife

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and fork that will tempt the bidders to part with their cash?

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So it's back to Andrew Smith & Sons for the last time.

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What are you bidding on to make the most money?

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But before our items go under the hammer, I caught up with auctioneer Andrew Smith

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to get his thoughts on Lynne's £2 purchase.

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Condition is slightly against it.

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This is fresh to the market,

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apart from that jumble sale seven years ago.

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-We've only got £100 to £200 on this.

-How much did she pay for it?

0:37:550:37:59

-£2. So it was a good day.

-It was a very good day.

-What do you think?

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Well, I'd confidently say we'll get over the top estimate for that.

0:38:040:38:08

-£400 to £600 on a good day?

-Yeah.

0:38:080:38:11

Irish paintings are still very much in demand.

0:38:110:38:14

I'd be disappointed if we don't get 3-plus.

0:38:140:38:17

Has this been picked up and handled, ie, lots of interest?

0:38:170:38:22

We've had a lot of enquiries on the internet

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and we've got telephone bids.

0:38:250:38:27

-Great.

-It's looking hopeful.

-It's looking very good.

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Will Lynne be the lucky one today? We'll find out soon.

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First, the fruit knife and fork are up for grabs

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under expert auctioneer Nick Jarrett.

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Gillian, fingers crossed. It's been a long wait, hasn't it?

0:38:420:38:45

I know it's not so hot today,

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but the heat is rising in the auction room as we speak.

0:38:460:38:49

-That's the jeopardy we like.

-It's a roller coaster ride.

0:38:490:38:53

-Gillian, are you here by yourself?

-No, my sister's here.

-Where is she?

0:38:530:38:57

-There she is.

-Hello, Wendy. She's reading a book!

0:38:570:39:00

LAUGHTER

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Coming up now, we're looking at £60 to £80.

0:39:020:39:05

Yes, nice little travelling set.

0:39:050:39:07

Got one myself, but broken, of course.

0:39:070:39:10

-A fruit one?

-Yes, yes. I've got a fork and knife.

0:39:100:39:13

Let's find out what the bidders think. This is it.

0:39:130:39:15

I'm going to start you - again, I've got several bids -

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I'm going to start you at 80.

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-Straight in at 80.

-95.

0:39:200:39:23

100. And 10.

0:39:230:39:25

120. 130. £130, then.

0:39:250:39:29

In the room at 130. I'm out. At £130.

0:39:290:39:31

140? 140, new bidder.

0:39:310:39:34

150? 140 on the phone.

0:39:340:39:37

Anybody else in? At £140. All done? At £140.

0:39:370:39:41

-Finished.

-It's very good. That's very good.

0:39:410:39:44

-£140. The hammer has gone down.

-Brilliant.

0:39:440:39:47

On the telephone as well, so a collector picked up on that.

0:39:470:39:50

-Quality. Quality always sells.

-Brilliant.

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And now you know what yours are worth.

0:39:530:39:55

Mine are broken, as is everything in my collection, unfortunately!

0:39:550:39:58

I can only afford broken things. But, you know, it's nice to know

0:39:580:40:01

that someone somewhere might offer me something for them.

0:40:010:40:04

-Thank you so much bringing those in, Gillian.

-Well done.

-OK.

0:40:040:40:09

Going under the hammer now, we have eight silver vases belonging to Gerald.

0:40:130:40:17

They've been in a cabinet ever since 1953, haven't they?

0:40:170:40:20

So it's time they've got to go. Who have you brought along with you?

0:40:200:40:23

-I've bought along my daughter, Julie.

-Hello.

0:40:230:40:25

-You've been looking at these vases in the cabinet for a long time?

-Yes.

0:40:250:40:29

You took it to the right chap. Michael is our silver expert.

0:40:290:40:33

I know you waxed lyrical over these.

0:40:330:40:35

They're lovely. The main thing is they're clean and commercial.

0:40:350:40:38

Nobody collects them, but they're usable and functional.

0:40:380:40:41

-I'm 100% sure we'll get away with them.

-There's confidence for you.

0:40:410:40:46

Let's find out if these bidders are going to put their hands in their pockets.

0:40:460:40:50

Let's put it to the test. Good luck.

0:40:500:40:52

I've got several bids. I'm going to start you at 250. 260 in the room.

0:40:520:40:56

At 260. 280 can I say?

0:40:560:41:00

At £260 in the room, at 260. Anybody going on? Are you in?

0:41:020:41:05

At £260. In the room. Sitting at 260.

0:41:050:41:08

-Have you done?

-Hammer's gone down.

0:41:080:41:11

£260. That was the first bid. The maiden bid.

0:41:110:41:14

These commercial lots are always going to be short and sweet,

0:41:140:41:17

because the trade value them roughly the same price.

0:41:170:41:20

So he had several bids, that was the top bid.

0:41:200:41:22

-One bid in the room went slightly more, that's it.

-Job done.

0:41:220:41:26

-Happy? That was quick, wasn't it?

-Yes, it was quick.

0:41:260:41:31

Next, Lynne's painting, and I reckon this could go sky high.

0:41:330:41:37

The name James Humbert Craig has got the phone lines booked today,

0:41:370:41:41

that's for sure. Lynne, it's caused quite a stir.

0:41:410:41:45

-That's good.

-And it cost you £2.

0:41:450:41:47

-Good gracious.

-It's an auction, anything can happen.

-You're right.

0:41:470:41:50

-Good luck.

-Thank you very much.

-It's going under the hammer right now.

0:41:500:41:54

We have a lot of interest in this. One, two, three commissioned bids.

0:41:540:41:57

Good for you, Lynne, here we go.

0:41:570:42:00

One, two, three we've got.

0:42:000:42:03

-Three phone bids.

-Three phone bids.

0:42:030:42:07

So I'm going to start with the highest bid of £380.

0:42:070:42:13

SHE GASPS

0:42:130:42:16

At £380. Commissioned bid.

0:42:160:42:18

Is there 400? Is there 400?

0:42:180:42:22

400 from the telephone.

0:42:220:42:24

Commissioned bids are all out. At £400 on the telephone.

0:42:240:42:26

Is there 20?

0:42:260:42:28

420. 450.

0:42:280:42:30

-Oh!

-Someone in the room now.

0:42:300:42:32

-At £420 on the internet. At £420.

-Back on the internet, see?

0:42:330:42:38

At £420 for the very last time.

0:42:380:42:41

-450.

-Just.

0:42:420:42:44

I like your sense of theatre. 450.

0:42:440:42:46

470? At £450 to the telephone.

0:42:460:42:50

Is there 470?

0:42:500:42:52

470. 500.

0:42:520:42:54

520. 550.

0:42:540:42:56

520 on the net. Is there 550?

0:42:560:42:59

550. 570.

0:42:590:43:02

-570.

-That's what you said.

-Yeah.

0:43:040:43:06

At £570 on the internet.

0:43:060:43:09

At £570 and selling.

0:43:090:43:12

-Lynne, you're in the money.

-£570 for the very last time.

0:43:120:43:16

And yes!

0:43:160:43:17

Thank you very much.

0:43:170:43:19

Oh, do you know, it was worth selling, actually, for £570.

0:43:190:43:22

-Not bad for a £2 investment.

-No.

0:43:220:43:26

Are you going to treat the family, or treat yourself?

0:43:260:43:29

We wanted to go to see Pompeii.

0:43:290:43:32

But we're going to see my sister in Lancaster,

0:43:320:43:35

so I might just put it towards a hire car and the rest towards a holiday.

0:43:350:43:39

-Well done. Good spot, Will.

-Thank you.

-Well done.

0:43:390:43:42

There you are. That's it. We're coming to the end of our day in the auction room.

0:43:470:43:51

It's all over for our owners

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and what a cracking day it's been.

0:43:520:43:54

Lovely surprise for Lynne. She wasn't expecting that, was she?

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All credit to our experts,

0:43:580:43:59

because it's not easy putting a value on antiques,

0:43:590:44:02

as you've just seen.

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Join us again next time, but, until then, it's goodbye

0:44:030:44:06

from all of us here in Hampshire.

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