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MUSIC: "London Calling" by The Clash

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# London calling to the faraway towns

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# Now war is declared and battle come down

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Today's show comes from the heart of London,

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famous for its red buses, Big Ben and the Houses of Parliament

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and much more. And, from where I'm standing, you get a perfect view

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of this vibrant and historic city.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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# I live by the river. #

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MUSIC: "My Generation" by The Who

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# People try to put us d-down

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Our venue for today is London Zoo.

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-# Just because we get around

-# Talking 'bout my generation

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Established in the early-19th century

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by the Royal Zoological Society, the zoo

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has seen nearly as many changes as the city around it.

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# Talking 'bout my generation

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But of all the decades to choose from, today's programme comes from the swinging sixties.

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The era of mods and rockers, miniskirts and icons like Twiggy.

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Post-war austerity was over.

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Things were changing in art, fashion and music.

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And London Zoo was undergoing some radical changes all of its own.

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# Talking 'bout my generation

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# I'm just talking 'bout my g-g-g-generation. #

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On Flog It!, we're in the business of conservation,

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conserving pieces of history. Finding antiques new homes.

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That's what this show is all about.

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That's why hundreds of people have turned up today.

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Joining us are experts Catherine Southon, who established her career

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with the prestigious London auction house Sotheby's.

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You and I could talk for hours. But, sadly, I've got work to do.

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-Then, you must go.

-But we shall have another chat inside, if that's OK?

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-Marvellous.

-And, hopefully, find out a little bit more.

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And Will Axon, who's got an eagle eye

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for spotting the best of the bunch when it comes to antiques.

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You're an artist, are you?

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I've got my paintings all over the walls.

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But I haven't got room for really good work.

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Well, looks have a closer look at it inside along with your Dalton jug.

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Well, the size of this queue proves that, in 2012, London is still swinging.

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Just like our neighbours the monkeys there behind me here at London Zoo.

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Today, we're hoping to find some antiques of quite a rare variety,

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delving into all these bags and boxes.

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Everybody here has turned up to ask our experts that all-important question, which is?

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ALL: What's it worth?

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MUSIC: "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" by The Rolling Stones

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Today, expert Will will be taking up residence outside,

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next to the zoo's Australian-inspired Mappin Terraces.

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While Catherine will be keeping up Victorian traditions in the Prince Albert Suite.

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But, before they get stuck in, which of these fab finds will be top of the pops at auction?

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Could this collection of travel ephemera from the 1950s sail away?

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Might these gold sovereigns from Kenya make a pretty penny?

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Or will this elegant condiment set tickle the taste buds of our buyers?

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# So hey-hey-hey

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We've got hundreds of antiques to look at, so let's get on with it.

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It looks like Catherine Southon is first to spot a real gem.

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# I can't get no... #

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-John and Newla, welcome to Flog It!

-Lovely to be here.

-And welcome to London Zoo.

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-Lovely to be here.

-Have you been to the zoo before?

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I came to London for the first time in 1967.

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-And I never came here.

-Today's the day. You'll have to look around.

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-Absolutely, yes.

-We've paid for the car park.

-So, you will have to.

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Now, I love to see a good selection of ephemera.

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And that's what we've got here. A lovely bit of social history.

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Where did it all come from? Tell me the story.

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-Well, my grandfather went to America in 1954 to visit his cousin.

-Right.

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He was 73, he'd never been abroad, never been out of the country.

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In fact, I don't think he'd ever been out of Lancashire or Yorkshire at that time.

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And he went out on a ship called the SS Flandre.

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He went to New York and then flew from New York to LA.

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He'd never flown before in his life.

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-I mean, to travel at his age, you say he was 73.

-He would have been 73.

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That's a big thing. At that time, if you think, whisking back to the '50s,

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this was kind of like a movie-star thing.

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He was so excited. I was a small boy at that time.

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-But it was a very big adventure.

-It was a huge adventure.

-Absolutely.

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On the first night out, on the Flandre, he went and had dinner.

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Had a wonderful time, he really enjoyed himself.

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And he drank wine for the first time. Never drank wine before.

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-Really? In his 70s and he'd never drank wine?

-That's right.

-Wow!

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He writes in his journals that he woke up the next morning and he was feeling sick and thought

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he might have eaten something that had disagreed with him.

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-He was hung over.

-I think he was a little bit drunk, don't you?

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-Which, indeed, he was.

-That's a brilliant story.

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-And so he went out on the Flandre.

-On the Flandre, yes.

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And these are the menus. They look very grand.

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Oh, God, yes, they do. And that was second class.

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-What was first class like?

-Gosh! Are they?

-He came back on a ship in December 1954

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-called the Saxonia.

-Right, OK.

-That ship was brand new in 1954.

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And launched by Lady Churchill. There's a booklet there

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telling you all about it, which he brought back with him as well.

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To me, just this brochure itself, there's so much behind it.

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But this is just a very small part of a very large collection.

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-What have we got here?

-We have here

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a set of postcards my grandfather bought whilst he was in America.

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And they are views of Los Angeles and Hollywood.

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-Gosh! They're so colourful.

-And there are a lot of pictures of film stars' houses.

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-I love it.

-Here, for instance, we have Will Rogers.

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The ranch here. The Nelsons here.

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Jose Iturbi, who was a very famous conductor.

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-Robert Taylor.

-You've got pictures of their houses

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-and then little tiny portraits of them.

-That's right.

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-So you know who they are.

-And a small one here.

-Mickey Rooney.

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That's why his picture is smaller than anybody else's.

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-Clark...

-Clark Gable.

-Clark Gable.

-That's right.

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And here we have Cary Grant on Santa Monica Boulevard.

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The most important thing, what we've come to talk about, is how much is it all worth?

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-Well, yes.

-It's very difficult to put a price on American postcards

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because, obviously, they're not going to be

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as popular here as British postcards.

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It's a lovely selection, however, it's in lovely condition.

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And together with all this ephemera that you've got,

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just for me makes up a wonderful story and a really lovely collection.

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Now, I think we should put it in auction

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with an estimate of £200 to £300.

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-Right.

-And a fixed reserve of £200.

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-Which means, we won't sell it below that.

-That's good.

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-Are you as well-travelled as your grandfather?

-Yes.

-Oh, are you?

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-Do you think you can travel to the auction?

-I think so.

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-Chiswick? Just down the road.

-Chiswick. I'll see you there.

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-Brilliant.

-Thank you for coming along.

-Lovely to meet you.

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Lovely to meet you. Thank you.

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# Altogether now, tie me kangaroo down, sport

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# Tie me kangaroo down. #

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So, with a hop, skip and jump, let's see what's popped up on Will's table.

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Rita, what a sweet little picture you've brought in for us today.

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I mean, look at this scene here, lovely verdant green Italian scene.

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Pretty much as far away as you can get from this backdrop we've got of the arid Australian outback.

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Tell me about it. Is this something that caught your eye and you had to have.

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No. I have inherited it.

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But I know very little about it.

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It belonged to my mother, she had it framed and was very proud of it.

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-Right.

-I know little about it, apart from appreciating its colouring.

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Tell me it's hanging on your wall at home.

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Well, it's in my studio. It is propped up on my plant chest.

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You say studio, so you're an artist yourself?

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Well, I consider myself an artist

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but I don't know if everybody considers me an artist.

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-It's a matter of opinion.

-I would say I'm a...

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-Not a professional artist.

-Yes.

-But I do paint and sell my work.

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I'm talking to someone who can really appreciate this piece.

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-I mean, that's exactly...

-It is a charming picture.

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It is a charming picture and the quality of the paintbrush strokes

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and the actual detail that the artist has managed to get in this picture

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is really impressive. It's just a few brushstrokes here and there

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but, say this trellis here, it really works, doesn't it?

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You can really feel the way that's hanging in the trellis.

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Working up, the landscape, typical... It must be Italian, don't you think?

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-Well, one assumes it's Italian. It looks Italian.

-Italian lakes?

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It does? Certainly up here, where you've got this bell tower,

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which is almost a sort of Venetian bell tower.

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Then you've got these typical cypress trees.

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It's so professional in all aspects, isn't it?

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-Composition and everything.

-Exactly.

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You've got composition, which is important.

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You've got figures, which are important. A bit of a focal point.

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When you see keen amateur paintings, a lot of the time,

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they're not brave enough to paint figures

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in these pictures because it's quite hard to paint a decent figure.

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If you look here, her in the boat. He's used a little bit of white,

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a little bit of blue, a little bit of red, and she's there.

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She's manifested herself from the page.

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And also this chap here, you even see the shadow almost cast by his hat.

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The other thing that catches me is the perspective is right.

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That's a very difficult thing to get right, perspective.

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-Yes.

-I've had a look at it, I can't find a signature.

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Have you been able to find anything out?

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I took off the back to look for a signature but I couldn't find one.

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It may even be like a preparatory sketch, perhaps.

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-Yes.

-It almost feels to me as if what this is

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is maybe an English artist travelling abroad.

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The artist usually used to go to northern France, southern France,

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down to Italy, a sort of Grand Tour but at a later date.

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-Yes.

-I don't think this is 18th century.

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I think, here we're looking at sort of 19th century,

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maybe turn of the century at the latest, I would have thought.

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-Really?

-Value? I mean, because it hasn't got a signature,

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or an artist who we can pin it to,

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I'm going to say let's try it at £100 to £200.

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-Mm.

-And let the market decide. It's got to be worth that just for the...

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-Even as just a decorative picture.

-Let's hope someone knows who did it.

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I think you can say goodbye to it because I think it's going to find a new home.

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Thank you.

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A bit of detective work is required there but it's clearly the work of a professional artist.

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And just like our items, London Zoo is full of history.

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At the height of the swinging sixties, it wasn't just the tank top

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and the World Cup grabbing all the headline news.

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London Zoo had a few head-turning stars of their own.

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Throughout the sixties, Chi Chi the giant panda was one of the main attractions here.

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And I can remember seeing her as well.

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And the media and the general public were fixated by the zoo's attempts

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to try and start a family here.

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But despite bringing in An An, a male giant panda from Moscow, it never really happened.

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I guess it was a match that wasn't made in heaven.

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But Chi Chi's fame lives on.

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She was the inspiration behind the symbol for the newly launched

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World Wildlife Fund.

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Now back to the Prince Albert Suite to see what Catherine's uncovered.

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Cantelau and Hitton, it's wonderful to see you on Flog It!

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Thank you very much for coming along today.

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Now, you've brought along some coins, some Kenyan gold coins.

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-Yes.

-I want to know where you got them from and why you've got them.

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-I bought these in Kenya..

-Um-hm.

-..in 1966, most probably,

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for my investment.

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This one is dated 1966. They're all dated, I believe, the same date.

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-So, you were very wise, may I say,...

-Thank you.

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..to go and buy them in that period.

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-Thank you.

-And you've had them all this time.

-All this time. Yes, me.

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-Who's on the back here?

-The president of Kenya.

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Jomo Kenyatta, father of the nation of Kenya.

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Right, OK. So, what were you doing in the sixties?

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-I had a shop.

-You were living in Kenya?

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-I had a shop.

-Right.

-My own business.

-Right.

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It was a very good shop. And I had very good customers.

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And Jomo Kenyatta's wife,

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Mama Ngina, she was my best customer.

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So, the president's wife was one of your customers.

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Yes. She used to come to my shop, do her buying.

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And she was very pleased with my service.

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-So, you must have had quite a high clientele.

-Very good friends.

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-It must've been a good business you had.

-A very good business.

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Are these something you are interested in at all, Hitton?

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Yes, I am very much interested in them.

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It's the sentimental value as well,

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in the sense that this has been bought by my father.

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And also there's history behind it because he's got three brothers

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and he wants to kind of share the proceeds of the sale of his coins with them as well.

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-Oh, that's lovely.

-That's what he believes in.

-That's a really nice thing to do.

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-That's wonderful.

-Yeah.

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Do you have any idea of how much they're worth?

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It should be around £1,800 today.

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-Right.

-It might be more.

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We have weighed these and we understand that the value is around the £1,900 mark.

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That's how much we'd be looking at for scrap.

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Would you be happy to put them into auction at £1,600 to £2,000?

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-With a reserve price of 1,600?

-He's very good, isn't he?

-Yes.

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-He's very wise.

-He's done his homework.

-He has done his homework.

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-Are you happy to sell at that?

-Yes, that's fine.

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-Hopefully, they'll sell well and you can share...

-With my brothers.

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-Yes.

-Well, I think you're incredibly wise and incredibly lovely.

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-And I wish you lots of success at the auction.

-Thank you very much.

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-Catherine, thank you very much.

-I shall see you there.

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-And, Hitton, I shall see you there too.

-Thank you.

-Thank you very much.

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If there's one sure-fire investment it's gold

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secreted away for nearly 50 years.

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Cantelau should be confident of reaping his rewards.

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It's hardly surprising that, after nearly 200 years, London Zoo

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is constantly changing to suit the needs of the animals that live here and call it home.

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This was the original entrance to the Parrot House built in the 1860s.

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It's one of only a few unlisted buildings here on the site.

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It was demolished recently to make way for a home

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for a feathered friend of a different kind.

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It's now the site of Penguin Beach,

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Britain's largest penguin pool.

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There's a surprise around every corner and, right now,

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it's time to p-p-p-pick up the final items and take them off to auction.

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Here's a quick reminder of our experts' choices.

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John's colourful souvenirs are a glimpse into a more romantic age,

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when travel was still a once-in-a-lifetime experience.

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Although unsigned, Rita's pretty gouache is clearly by a professional artist, but who?

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At £100 t0 £200, it's still a steal.

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And bought as an investment in the mid 1960s,

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Cantelau's ready to reap the rewards from his gold coins.

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MUSIC: "I Can't Explain" by The Who

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Our sale today comes from the Chiswick Auction Rooms in the leafy suburb of Chiswick, West London.

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The birthplace of the original modfather, Mr Pete Townshend.

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Let's go inside and see who's up next.

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-# Got a feeling inside

-# I can't explain... #

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And, on the rostrum today, auctioneer William Rouse.

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95. 100. 110. He's there at 110.

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First up, it's Cantelau's little hoard of gold.

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-Three gold coins going under the hammer, Kenyan coins.

-Yes.

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-From when, 1966?

-1966.

-Yeah.

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-And these coins are fabulous.

-They are.

-Absolutely fabulous.

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Let's find out what the bidders think. They're going under the hammer now.

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Shall we start this lot at £1,000 to start for the gold coins?

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£1,000 I'm bid. 1,100 is the next bid. £1,000. 1,100.

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1,200. 1,300. £1,300.

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Do you want 14? At £1,300.

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It's not quite enough. 1,400.

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-1,500.

-Come on, one more.

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£1,500 it is then. I'm afraid, not quite enough at 1,500.

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At £1,500, anybody else want to come in? Is that it?

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£1,500.

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-It didn't sell.

-It was so close. So close.

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Well, there's always another day and another saleroom.

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But, bear in mind, gold values fluctuate,

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so it's important to keep an eye on the market.

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Let's hope artist Rita has better luck with her Italianate painting.

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The reason I didn't put it up on the walls is that I spent many years going down to St Ives...

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-I bet you have a lovely collection.

-I have, I have.

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-I want to get round there and have a look.

-Yeah.

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Well, some have to go and I guess that's one of them.

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Good luck with that. Hopefully, we'll get the £100 to £200.

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It's going under the hammer. Good luck, Rita. Fingers crossed.

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Lot 175 is this gouache of the lake view. 175.

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Let's start, please, £50 for this.

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50 I'm bid, thank you. 55. 60.

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65. At £65 it is.

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-70, thank you. 75.

-We're in here. Come on.

-80.

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85. 90.

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95. 100. Anybody else want to come in? It's £100 bid.

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In the room, then. £100. I'm selling it for 100.

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-Rita, it's gone.

-Right, right.

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-Happy?

-Yes, I'm happy about that because someone will appreciate it.

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Yes. He's over there. You might want a word with him afterwards

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-and see if he can tell you more about it.

-He might.

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-Yeah. He might know.

-Sometimes, people are prepared to talk to you

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-about things they've bought.

-Once they've got it.

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-Sometimes, they'll be under the arm and out the door.

-Yeah.

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45. 50.

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Next up, it's John's collection of travel souvenirs

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from his grandfather's trip to the United States.

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MUSIC: "Heart of Glass" by Blondie

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I've been looking forward to this. It's great to see you again.

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-I know you love auctions, don't you?

-Absolutely.

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-Have you picked up a bidding paddle?

-No, we haven't No, no.

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-You're just here to sell.

-We're being very wise today, yes.

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-I do like those American postcards.

-They're wonderful.

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They're fantastic, they really are.

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They're all hand-coloured, the satin-finished ones.

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There are views of LA and Hollywood, which do not exist any more.

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We've seen it on the show before with postcard collections.

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You just don't know. I like the ocean-liner menu cards

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and the actual programme. You can see what the women were wearing

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-and the times.

-And the furniture.

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-The 1950s furniture. Cutting edge.

-It evokes the whole period.

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-Absolutely. It's wonderful.

-Let's see if it's cutting edge here today.

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Let's put it to the test. Here we go. It's going under the hammer.

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Where shall we start this?

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Nice and easy at £100 to start me for it.

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100 to go. 100 I'm bid. 110.

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-120. 130.

-He's keen. He's got his bidding cards out.

-He's got taste.

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180. 190. 200. £200 there.

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In the middle of the room, then, at £200. Anybody else want to come in?

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I can sell it, then. At £200. I'm selling it, for 200 it goes.

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-£200.

-It's gone. £200.

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And that chap over there was very, very keen.

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He didn't put his bidding paddle down, he held it there. I want it. I'm going home with it.

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-I wish there was somebody else doing the same.

-Yes, I know.

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Thank you. 110. 120.

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130. 140. 150.

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Thank you very much.

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MUSIC: "Dedicated Follower of Fashion" by The Kinks

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Well, that's the end of our first visit to the auction rooms today.

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We're coming back later, don't go away.

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Before we join up with our experts, I'm going on a little tour.

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It's no secret that I'm a big music fan, absolutely love music.

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I'm going to visit a part of the city that has made rock and roll history.

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And you'll be surprised at where I'm going.

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Twelve miles down the River Thames in Twickenham, lies a sleepy island

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with a unique musical past.

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I'm going to enjoy this today, it's a trip down memory lane for me.

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I went to school around this area and I was born a mile down the river at Teddington Lock.

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My father was a lecturer at Twickenham Polytechnic.

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On Saturday mornings, he gave rowing lessons at the Twickenham Rowing Club.

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I used to join him on many occasion.

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Sometimes, during my holidays, I'd swim across. It's not that far.

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But, once you were over there, it felt like you were miles away from the mainland.

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A hidden oasis. And, today, it's still a little bit of a secret.

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And it's called Eel Pie Island.

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# I can see for miles and miles and miles

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Half a mile in length and home to a small community of 120 people,

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no one's quite sure how it got its name.

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Theories range from Henry VIII's taste for the very English delicacy

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to the tradition of fishing for eels on this stretch of the river.

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No matter what, its mythical name matches its legendary history.

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Eel Pie Island was the backdrop to my early teenage years.

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It was the 1970s, the hippie era.

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There were plenty of hippies holed up in the Eel Pie Island Hotel,

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a rundown dilapidated 19th-century building on the other side of the island.

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But, ten years earlier, it was the throbbing heartbeat of the London music scene.

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MUSIC: "You Really Got Me" by The Kinks

0:22:020:22:05

# Girl, you really got me going

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# You got me so I don't know what I'm doing now... #

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I mean, it's hard to imagine it now because, just look around you, it's so tranquil here.

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But from the mid 1950s right up to the mid 1960s,

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the hotel on the island was the venue for many of our greatest rocks bands.

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Rod Stewart, The Rolling Stones, The Who, all played here.

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And, as dusk fell and the bands came on stage,

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you could hear those blistering guitar licks

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from Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page.

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This island rocked.

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It all began around 1955 as Britain emerged from the years of post-war austerity.

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And American influences had been taken up with gusto.

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Amongst the imports were the blues musicians of Chicago.

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Players like Muddy Waters, BB King, Howlin' Wolf.

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They influenced the local jazz musicians who, in turn,

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influenced the bright young megastars of the future.

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# Boom, boom, boom, boom. #

0:23:070:23:09

Recognise anyone? Step forward, Mod the Rod Stewart.

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Eric, Jimmy Page, Mick, Keith and Charlie.

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This heady brew all cooked up here on this little island in the Thames.

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It's more like New Orleans than Richmond.

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But how did it all happen? And why here on Eel Pie Island?

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Well, it's down to one man, really.

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Arthur Chisnall who, coincidentally, had an antique shop in Kingston upon Thames.

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Antiques aside, his true passion was social research.

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And he was studying a group of local art students who visited his shop quite frequently.

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He heard about their frustrations, there was nowhere they could go

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and dance and hang out and listen to live music around here.

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But he thought, "Hang on a minute, I know the hotel on Eel Pie Island has the most marvellous ballroom."

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"The perfect venue for them to play their music."

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-# Up above my head

-# Up above my head

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-# I hear music in the air

-# I hear music in the air

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The first parties were held in 1956. And crowds of teenagers flocked

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to the free jazz club Arthur established in the hotel.

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His social experiment was underway.

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In the 1960s, R&B took over

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and a young Rod Stewart sang backing vocals

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for Long John Baldry's Hoochie Coochie Men.

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# Up above my head. #

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Suddenly, Arthur's student club was one of London's hottest music venues.

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Word spread fast on the grapevine

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and the legend of Eel Pie Land was born.

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'For over ten years, teenagers have flocked to Mr Chisnall's island club

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'from all over Britain. Once in, they can buy alcoholic drinks at the bar.

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'According to Mr Chisnall, his club has 28,000 members.

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'That's a lot of people. Certainly, Eel Pie Land has become notorious

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'as a haven for beatniks.

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'The Rolling Stones kicked off here

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at a time when those young men were way, way out.'

0:25:020:25:05

# When you were a child you were treated kind...

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In 1963, The Rolling Stones were given a weekly slot on the island,

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in the middle of which, the band had their first chart hit.

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# Your mother who neglected you owes a million dollars tax. #

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The rest, as they say, is rock and roll history.

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In 1967, unable to renew the hotel's licence for live music, the bands stopped playing.

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By then, many of them had gone on to play in larger venues.

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But there was worse to come.

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In 1971, a mysterious fire gutted the legendary Eel Pie Island Hotel.

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And it had to be demolished.

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It was a very sad day in the history of rock and roll.

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Today, nothing remains to mark this unique chapter in rock and roll history.

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This is where the music scene ended, right here, this very spot.

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But, for me, it went on, actually.

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Eventually, I worked for Pete Townshend of The Who

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at his recording studio called Eel Pie Studios in St Margarets, just further along the river there,

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where I met a girl, discovered antiques and that's another story.

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MUSIC: "You Really Got Me" by The Kinks

0:26:230:26:28

# Girl, you really got me going

0:26:280:26:30

# You got me so I don't know what I'm doing now

0:26:300:26:33

Back at the zoo, the buzz of evaluation day is music to my ears.

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# You got me so I can't sleep at night. #

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Working diligently at his outpost in the Aussie desert, Will has unearthed a unique bit of history.

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-Hi, Yvonne.

-Hi, Will.

-Thanks for coming along today

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and bringing along this rather interesting football programme.

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I'm not even going to suggest that you got this from the match

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because I know you're going to kick me in the shins.

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But how did you come by this because, obviously, the date 1945, is this something a family member went to?

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It belongs to my husband's side of the family.

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-His father and eldest brother went to the match.

-They were actually there.

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So, they were there and brought home the programme.

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-And it's stayed in the family ever since.

-Interesting.

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-A family of Arsenal fans?

-On his brother's side, yeah.

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-My husband is a Tottenham fan.

-Oh, you're joking, aren't you?

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-An interesting rivalry there.

-Family lunches must be quite an event,

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certainly during the season.

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This is obviously Arsenal Football Club playing Moscow Dynamo

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-at Tottenham.

-At Tottenham.

-Hence the Tottenham-Arsenal connection.

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Just looking here, it looks like Moscow Dynamo Football Club

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were on, shall we say, a tour of the UK because it says here,

0:27:420:27:46

their "next engagement will be with Coventry." And "Glasgow Rangers,

0:27:460:27:50

November the 27th." They were obviously on, shall we say,

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an exhibition tour. I think that's what it was.

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I think that's what it was because it was towards the end of the war period.

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During the war, there were no league matches.

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-Everything was suspended.

-For obvious reasons.

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-And I think to boost the morale of the football fans...

-Yeah.

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..being as there were no football matches during that wartime.

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-And they would bring in...

-Teams from abroad.

-..teams from abroad

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-to do these one-off games.

-Yeah, I think you're right.

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-It would help boost the morale.

-That's exactly what it was.

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-So, your husband owns it.

-He does.

-He's a Tottenham fan.

-He is.

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Yeah, so he's not going to frame this and hang it in pride of place above the mantelpiece.

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Maybe if he got a bit of Tipp-Ex out and Letraset.

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-If he could, I'm sure he would.

-Really?

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-You don't let him have it up, do you?

-Well, I don't mind.

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But he's just kept it in the drawer with other programmes.

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-Does he collect football programmes?

-He's got quite a collection.

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-This one stood out from the others.

-It's one of the earliest ones.

-It's one of the earliest ones.

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Have you been on the phone? Is he happy that you're going to flog it?

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-Yeah, he's quite happy.

-What does he think it's worth?

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He spoke to somebody on the phone

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who said it could be worth maybe around the £50 mark.

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OK, yeah. I think that's a reasonable ballpark figure.

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Because of the condition, it's obviously been well-thumbed.

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That's what I was going to bring your attention to, the condition of the programme itself.

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I'd like to use that £50 as the top end of the estimate.

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-So, try it at £30 to £50.

-That's fine.

-Yeah.

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Just because of the condition.

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-It's being sold in London, so it's in the right...

-It's in the right area.

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Exactly. We'll have a few Arsenal fans, hopefully, in the crowd.

0:29:220:29:26

(BROLGA CRANE SQUAWKS) I think we've got some interest over there.

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It's a Tottenham fan, he's trying to sabotage the filming.

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We'll take that as a commission bid.

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But I'm confident that at £30 to £50, let's reserve it at 30.

0:29:340:29:38

-That's good.

-Yeah.

-I'm pleased with that.

0:29:380:29:40

-Maybe your husband can come to the sale day.

-I'm hoping he'll make it.

0:29:400:29:44

-Brilliant, Yvonne. Nice to meet you.

-And you. Thank you.

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# Never failed in the mail yet, come around Bill!

0:29:460:29:49

# Too much monkey business. #

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I love how a single piece of paper can conjure up

0:29:520:29:54

all the excitement of a football game from 75 years ago.

0:29:540:29:59

Now, something's got Catherine pretty excited too.

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One of the things I absolutely love about working on Flog it!

0:30:020:30:07

is coming along, seeing boxes

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and opening them and, hopefully, finding a wonderful surprise.

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-Shall we have a little look in your box and see what we find.

-Please do.

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Now, that is what I call fantastic.

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What a lovely little condiment set you've got here.

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Silver at the top and ivory.

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Now, tell me about this because I believe you are very well-travelled

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and there's a lot of history behind this.

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I'm a New Zealander and I've inherited this from my mother.

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When she died, I was living in Italy with my family.

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One of my sisters in New Zealand

0:30:430:30:45

kindly collected up some of the items that my mother left behind

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and put them into a tea chest and had them shipped to us in Milan.

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Where did your mother get it from? Was it a family piece you've had for a long time?

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I think that my mother might have inherited it

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from her Irish aunties, her maiden aunts.

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-Right.

-They were the O'Connells and they had emigrated from Ireland

0:31:040:31:09

-to Napier in New Zealand.

-Oh, Napier. That rings a bell.

0:31:090:31:13

-I think I've been there. Is that north or south?

-North Island.

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North Island, right.

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And then it got sent over to me in Milan.

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And then, a few years ago, we moved back to England to live.

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So, this is a very well-travelled item.

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A well-travelled set, yes.

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Right, let's have a look at these individually.

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We've got peppers and we've got salts and we've got little mustard pots

0:31:330:31:37

and these beautiful little mustard spoons.

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I think, perhaps, it might have been part of an even bigger set.

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Something that would have been on a large dining table.

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This is a prestigious set that was for a big family banquet.

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This is a very nice set, here.

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These individual pieces, the lovely ivory there.

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It's got a lovely patina to it.

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I love the way inside you can see how that's finished.

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Now, a lot of people are a bit worried about selling ivory.

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Now, this is pre-1947, which means it's perfectly legal to sell.

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If we look around the top, we can verify that because we've got the hallmark on the silver.

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Birmingham. The date letter is "C".

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So, this "C" dates it perfectly to 1902.

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So, that's the date we're looking at for this set.

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And we've also got the maker's initials.

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B&Co. Broadway & Co. To be honest, it's not a maker that I've heard of.

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So, it's not something I can give you much information about.

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What I can tell you is it is a very nice little set.

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And I think the sort of thing that would do well at auction.

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I've never seen anything quite like this, I must admit.

0:32:460:32:49

-No.

-It's really lovely.

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Now, the crucial point.

0:32:510:32:54

Valuation. Have you ever had this valued or looked at before?

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Yes. I was told that, if I put it in an auction,

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it would probably get £800.

0:33:000:33:02

-Which I was very, very surprised to hear that.

-Very surprised.

0:33:020:33:06

I must say, I'm a little bit surprised.

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To me, that seems very, very punchy.

0:33:080:33:11

It's a lovely set but it's not the original box.

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There is a spoon damaged.

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I think we need to come down a little bit more on that.

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Perhaps, put an estimate on of £300 to £500.

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With a reserve of 300.

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-Would you be happy with that?

-Yes, I would.

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It's a lovely piece. It's very well-travelled.

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There's a lovely story behind this.

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I hope that a couple of people at the auction love it just like we do.

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-Thank you very much for bringing it along.

-You're welcome.

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-I'll see you at the auction.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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# Shaking all over. #

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Lorraine, I don't need to tell you what you've brought in today.

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-I think they're snuff boxes.

-I think you're dead right.

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You're dead right. Silver snuff boxes.

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Nice that they're in silver. Probably table snuffs, looking at the size.

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Rather than carried in the pocket, probably to be at home

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on the table to bring out when you have guests and so on.

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-Right.

-But, yes, you're right. Little hinged lids.

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Silver gilt interiors ready for snuff. You've got hallmarks there.

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I can see silver. Have you given them a polish before you brought them?

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-Yes.

-You've got to be careful cleaning silver, you know that?

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I do know. I was told many a time.

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Don't over-polish because you'll rub the marks

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and rub the decoration as well. But nice quality.

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Nice, clean, close well, tight hinges.

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-That's really what collectors of these are looking for.

-Right.

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-How did you come by them?

-I inherited them. I worked for a lady

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and when she passed away she left them to me in her will.

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-How very kind of her.

-It was very kind of her.

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-It was a total surprise.

-What a nice surprise.

-She originally had four.

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-A little collection.

-Snuff boxes are really widely collected.

-Yeah.

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There's a huge variety, a huge range of snuff boxes that you can collect.

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You can collect ones made of wood, tortoiseshell, horn.

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They tend to be a little bit more affordable.

0:35:010:35:03

Right through to the silver ones here.

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These are fairly plain but I quite like that.

0:35:050:35:07

-I quite like the plainness of them.

-Right.

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You get some that are more ornate. They've got castle-top views.

0:35:100:35:13

-Yeah.

-They're well-known. You would have seen them on the programme.

0:35:130:35:17

And then you go right through to the gold ones that have got enamel and even inset with jewels and so on.

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So, there's a wide range. Anything to suit anyone's pocket really.

0:35:220:35:27

So, they're a really good way of getting into collecting.

0:35:270:35:30

This first one, I've had a look at the hallmark. 1825 we're looking at.

0:35:300:35:35

-Oh, right.

-That surprises me. Does it? You thought they were later?

-I did, yeah. Yeah.

0:35:350:35:39

Snuff boxes and so on, they really came into fashion late 18th century

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into the early 19th century when people were taking snuff.

0:35:450:35:48

-Yeah.

-So, they're both from around that period.

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This one's a little bit later. 1827, the hallmark on that.

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This one's inscribed on top with the date 1838.

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So, that ties in nicely with the hallmark.

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I've had a look at the inscription.

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-It's "Coventry Commerce", is it? Or "Industry".

-Yes.

0:36:020:36:06

-Yeah. So, presented to... No idea who that is? No.

-Mr Palmer.

0:36:060:36:10

-Mr Palmer, whoever he was.

-Whoever he was.

0:36:100:36:13

Thank you very much, Mr Palmer, if you are up there.

0:36:130:36:15

Value-wise, you say she left them to you in her will.

0:36:150:36:19

Did she give you any indication in the will what they might be worth?

0:36:190:36:22

-No. None whatsoever.

-OK.

0:36:220:36:24

Any ideas, having watched the programme? You might have picked something up here and there.

0:36:240:36:28

-80.

-80? That sort of figure?

0:36:280:36:30

I think I'd give you £80 now for them if you offered them to me.

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So, I think they're probably worth a little bit more than that.

0:36:340:36:36

You said £80. I'm going to say let's put them in at £100 to £200 each.

0:36:360:36:41

-How do you feel about that?

-That would be great.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

0:36:410:36:44

The good thing about silver is that it always tends to make its money in the salerooms.

0:36:440:36:48

-Right, OK.

-Let's be sure about that and put a fixed reserve of £100.

0:36:480:36:53

They've got to be worth £100 each.

0:36:530:36:55

I don't mind taking them home if they didn't sell.

0:36:550:36:57

Exactly. That's the right sort of attitude to come at it with.

0:36:570:37:00

-It's been a pleasure meeting you.

-Thank you.

-Thank you for bringing these. You've been very patient.

0:37:000:37:04

You've been queuing since early on. I think you were here before we were.

0:37:040:37:07

-I was.

-Exactly. But look at this now.

0:37:070:37:09

We're in the sun, the sun's going down, we could almost be...

0:37:090:37:12

You know what I feel like? I'm A Celebrity...Get Me Out Of Here.

0:37:120:37:15

You've been here all day. You can shout it as loud as you like.

0:37:150:37:18

We'll get you a cab and get you home.

0:37:180:37:20

-Well done. It's been really nice meeting you.

-Thank you.

0:37:200:37:23

-I'll see you in the saleroom.

-It's been a lovely day.

0:37:230:37:25

MUSIC: "Louie Louie" by the Kingsmen

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# Louie Louie

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# Oh, no, we gotta go

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It's been a fantastic day here at the zoo.

0:37:340:37:36

Lots of friendly Flog It! faces and interesting objects.

0:37:360:37:40

Here's a quick recap just to jog your memory of all the items we're taking with us.

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# Fine little girl she waits for me

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# Me catch the ship across the sea

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A slight thing but packed with history.

0:37:510:37:54

Certain football fans should be pretty excited

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about this historic programme from an early match.

0:37:560:37:59

This ivory condiment set is well-travelled.

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And it immediately caught Catherine's eye.

0:38:030:38:06

And Lorraine's elegant silver snuff boxes are highly collectable.

0:38:060:38:11

And I'm sure they'll be snapped up at auction.

0:38:110:38:14

# Oh, baby, we gotta go. #

0:38:140:38:17

Back at the Chiswick saleroom, auctioneer William is working hard on the rostrum.

0:38:170:38:22

£450 there. 450.

0:38:220:38:24

Well, let's hope we hit the back of the net with this next lot.

0:38:260:38:28

You know what I'm talking about. That single-sheet football programme that Yvonne brought in.

0:38:280:38:33

Great to see you again. Who have you brought with you? A Tottenham fan?

0:38:330:38:36

-This is my husband Kenny.

-Hello, Kenny, pleased to meet you.

0:38:360:38:39

-And you, Paul.

-Shouldn't you have an Arsenal scarf on?

0:38:390:38:42

-Well...

-Or a Moscow Dynamo scarf?

0:38:420:38:44

Yes, that's my brother and father, the Arsenal fans.

0:38:440:38:48

-Right. They went to the game.

-They did.

-Wonderful old programme.

0:38:480:38:51

-What an early programme.

-Yeah, it's great.

0:38:510:38:53

-Football history there.

-Quite an interesting match as well.

0:38:530:38:57

-I did a bit of research.

-Moscow won, didn't they?

-They did, 4-3.

0:38:570:39:00

-A terrible fog descended on the game.

-That's it.

0:39:000:39:03

My brother mentioned that.

0:39:030:39:05

Do you know what? The Russians made a substitution but never took a player off.

0:39:050:39:08

-Oh!

-So, they played with 12 men on the pitch because it was so foggy and they refused to call it off.

0:39:080:39:13

-I like that, don't you?

-That's interesting.

-Very interesting.

0:39:130:39:16

I'm sure there's a lot of football fans here in the auction room.

0:39:160:39:19

Let's find out if we can score a hat-trick with this, shall we? This is it.

0:39:190:39:23

Lot 55 is a single-sheet football programme.

0:39:230:39:27

And I've got a bit of interest in it. I'm in at £20.

0:39:270:39:31

At £20 with me. 22 now, in the room. 22. 25.

0:39:310:39:36

£25 I'm bid. £25 for the football programme.

0:39:360:39:41

-It's struggling.

-Anyone else want to come in?

0:39:410:39:43

£25 is not quite enough, I'm afraid.

0:39:430:39:46

-Ooh!

-Didn't sell.

-Didn't sell.

0:39:460:39:48

Do you know what? In a way, I'm pleased it didn't sell.

0:39:480:39:51

Because, if you'd sold right on the reserve, I think... You know?

0:39:510:39:55

-I think there's more money to be made with that.

-Definitely.

0:39:550:39:58

# All or nothing... #

0:39:580:40:00

What a shame. I'm sure it will do well in a specialist sports auction.

0:40:000:40:05

Hopefully, the bidders wont turn their noses up at Lorraine's snuff boxes,

0:40:050:40:10

which William has split into two lots.

0:40:100:40:13

-Why are you selling these?

-I don't display them.

0:40:130:40:15

-You just don't display them.

-I don't display them

0:40:150:40:17

-OK. Best get rid, then, eh?

-Yeah.

-Have the money instead.

-Exactly.

0:40:170:40:21

Let's see what this lot thinks. It's down to the bidders now.

0:40:210:40:24

Nice little thing here. Little snuff box. Start me at £60 for it.

0:40:240:40:28

For a snuff box. I'm bid 60.

0:40:280:40:31

65 I'll take. £60.

0:40:310:40:33

65. 70.

0:40:330:40:35

75. 80. 85.

0:40:350:40:38

£85 it is. 90.

0:40:380:40:40

-95.

-We're going to do it.

-£100.

0:40:400:40:42

-There we go.

-£100 there. Do you want

0:40:420:40:45

110? 110. 110 there.

0:40:450:40:47

At £110. Seated in the armchair at 110.

0:40:470:40:50

Anybody else? 110 it is. 110.

0:40:500:40:54

-OK, first one 110. Let's see if we can do that again.

-All right.

0:40:550:40:58

Interest in this one. What am I bid? £80 to start me.

0:40:580:41:01

I'm bid 80. 85.

0:41:010:41:03

90. 95.

0:41:030:41:05

100. 110. 110.

0:41:050:41:08

At 110. 120.

0:41:080:41:11

130.

0:41:110:41:12

140. 140.

0:41:120:41:15

-Good.

-This is the person who missed out on the first one

0:41:150:41:17

-having a bit more of a go on the second one.

-Mmm.

0:41:170:41:20

All done. 140 I'm going to sell it.

0:41:200:41:21

-£140.

-Thank you, Will.

-Not at all. thank you for coming.

0:41:210:41:25

It pays to put things into auction. If you don't want them lying around the house,

0:41:250:41:28

we'd love to see you if you've got any collectables you want to sell.

0:41:280:41:31

Bring them along to one of our valuation days.

0:41:310:41:33

You can find details on our BBC website.

0:41:330:41:35

Log on to bbc.co.uk/flogit for the links.

0:41:350:41:39

All the information will be there.

0:41:390:41:41

If you don't have a computer, check the details in your local press.

0:41:410:41:44

Come on. Dust them down, bring them in, we want to see.

0:41:440:41:47

95. 100. 110.

0:41:500:41:51

Next up, this wonderful condiment set.

0:41:510:41:54

It's been in the family for many a season.

0:41:540:41:57

Hopefully, there'll be collectors peppered about the saleroom.

0:41:570:42:01

Is this going to be a wrench to sell it?

0:42:010:42:04

My daughter's getting married on Saturday

0:42:040:42:07

and it'll be nice to have a bit of extra money.

0:42:070:42:11

It's a bit of quality, isn't it? I know the silver dealers are here and they're all poring over it.

0:42:110:42:16

The firm is Broadway & Co and they are still in business today.

0:42:160:42:19

-Really?

-The fourth generation are running it.

0:42:190:42:22

So, it's good pedigree there. Let's get on with the sale, shall we?

0:42:220:42:26

It's now down to the bidders. Good luck. This is it.

0:42:260:42:29

I'm going to start this straight off at £260.

0:42:290:42:33

-270.

-It's in the room behind us.

0:42:330:42:35

290. 300. 320.

0:42:350:42:38

320 there. 340. 360.

0:42:380:42:40

380. 400.

0:42:400:42:42

-420.

-Very good.

-440.

0:42:420:42:44

460. 480.

0:42:440:42:46

500. And 50.

0:42:460:42:48

-600 fresh bidding.

-Fantastic.

-650 behind you.

0:42:480:42:52

700. 750.

0:42:520:42:55

-800. 850. 900.

-Can you hear that?

0:42:550:42:58

-Yes.

-£900.

0:42:580:43:01

-And 50.

-That's good.

0:43:010:43:03

£1,050. £1,100.

0:43:030:43:06

£1,100 it is. At £1,100, are you all done and finished? £1,100.

0:43:060:43:11

-Jolly good.

-What a nice surprise.

0:43:110:43:14

-What a lovely surprise.

-It's fantastic.

0:43:140:43:17

My mother, who died, who I inherited it from,

0:43:170:43:20

she would be so pleased to know that money will go towards her granddaughter's wedding.

0:43:200:43:24

In Wiltshire, my home county. Royal Wootton Bassett. Oh, marvellous.

0:43:240:43:29

-I hope the weather's fine.

-Yes.

-Have a lovely time at the wedding.

0:43:290:43:34

And what a wonderful way to end today's show.

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I told you there was going to be a surprise, didn't I?

0:43:360:43:38

I hope you've enjoyed it. Join us again soon for many more.

0:43:380:43:41

But, for now, from Chiswick in West London, it's goodbye from all of us.

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