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A cloaked figure with empty eye sockets watches the road ahead.

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A luring voice gently calls your name

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as a large black beast runs across the deserted landscape.

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I'm in Dartmoor, and with the mist coming down like this,

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settling low, it really does create a spooky atmosphere.

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In fact, this place is full of stories of ghosts and spirits

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terrorising strangers that get lost on the moors.

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Come to think of it, that should be my cue to leave.

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Welcome to a rather spooky edition of "Flog It!".

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Man has inhabited Dartmoor for the past 12,000 years.

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So it's perhaps no wonder that legend, myth and intrigue

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is steeped in every standing stone and tor.

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From Spinsters' Rock,

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said to be three maidens turned to stone for dancing on the Sabbath,

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to the pixies,

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who are said to leave fresh flowers on the grave of a local woman,

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Dartmoor is Devon's most intriguing landscape.

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But "Flog It!" are fleeing 25 miles east of Dartmoor

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to take safe haven in Exeter's Gothic cathedral

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for a valuation day to give you the shivers.

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And today, bringing a little piece of history back from the dead

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are the high-spirited folk of Exeter. It's great to see you.

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What a turnout. Gosh, we've got our work cut out today.

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In all of these bags and boxes

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are items, mysteries and stories to be uncovered.

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And that's the job for our experts to do.

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Because somewhere here, there's a hidden treasure

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that's worth a small fortune.

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-You haven't come in to be valued, have you?

-No!

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Have you come in to be valued?

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Now, hunting down our items are Caroline Hawley and Mark Stacey,

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both legends in their own right.

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-They scare me, these, you know.

-Yeah, it frightens me.

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-I put it away in a cupboard.

-Yeah, I know, me too.

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It's like the Village of the Damned.

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SOMETHING CLATTERS

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WOMAN SCREAMS

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-It is very spooky.

-Hmm.

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I've just been told the hotel I spent the night in last night

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is haunted.

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I'll be investigating the spooky nature of all things Gothic later on.

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But now to the business of valuing antiques.

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Never before seen on "Flog It!", could this tiny walking stick

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belong to the 19th-century star General Tom Thumb?

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And I get my hands on a signed platinum album

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from one of the biggest bands in the world.

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How much do you think the fans will pay for Coldplay?

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The founding of the cathedral dates to 1050,

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but the building we see today

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was built during the 13th and 14th century.

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And it really is wearing well.

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And so is one of our experts, Mr Mark Stacey,

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who's found a collection of medallions.

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Let's take a closer look.

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Before I look at these, what's the connection here? Who are you?

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My name is Sue, this is my daughter Emma,

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and this is one of my grandchildren, Freya.

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Well, I met Freya in the queue, didn't I, Freya?

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-Are you interested?

-Are you interested?

-I don't think she is.

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-Oh, she is. She's nodding.

-She's not really.

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-I'm not sure she is interested, actually.

-No.

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-Now, you've brought these items in.

-Yeah, I have, yeah.

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Tell me, why are they in your possession?

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Oh, well, unfortunately my father's had to go into a care home.

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And going through all his bits and pieces,

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we found these in a drawer.

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I presume most of them come from my grandfather,

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but my dad can't really remember much about them at all.

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So they've just really, like a lot of family things,

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they've been gathered over the years, put in a box,

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-and people have forgotten who and where...?

-Yes.

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They've gone from one drawer to another, because

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-we don't know much about them. So...

-All right, go and find a drink.

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Oh, right. Oh, I think we've lost Freya. She's bored.

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Yeah, she's gone for a drink. She is, she's all right.

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Are you going to come and sit back on Mummy, now?

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-Yeah, come on then!

-Oh, look at this. Preferential treatment.

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-What do you say?

-Are you happy now?

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-Your dad's gone into a home, you say?

-He has.

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He's all right, but he just can't remember where he got them from.

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-He sort of forgets where...?

-Yeah. Well, at 93, you probably do a bit!

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Oh, gosh. Well, I forget things now.

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-And I'm only 33.

-Oh, that's all right then.

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-Weird mixture, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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-These, the football and swimming, we presume are my grandfather.

-Yeah.

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Yes. And you've got three, well, two...

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Three medals. Yeah, two First World War, which I presume,

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again, are my grandfather's.

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-Yeah, they would be, I think. And those are named on there.

-Yeah, that's it, yeah.

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The Second World War medals, you don't have names on them,

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unless it's, you know, a very senior medal like a Military Cross,

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I think, or something like that. But it's a nice little group.

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But not terribly valuable, because they were the medals -

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it sounds awful - that everyone got.

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I mean, if we just have a look at some of them.

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-This is obviously a gold medallion.

-Yeah.

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And it says on the back "Hastings Regatta".

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Yeah, you don't often get silver or gold medals for swimming 60 yards.

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No, well, obviously a very successful regatta in Hastings.

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And then you've got various little silver, I think, medallions.

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-Again, they're hallmarked.

-Yeah, some of them are football.

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-I mean, whoever won them was quite sporty, in your family.

-Yeah.

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What is that? We don't know.

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Each link is hallmarked, and it has a little number. I wonder...

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And on the front, it's got a picture of a tiny dragon on a link,

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-so I presume it's Welsh.

-Oh, yes.

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I wonder if it's something to do with the Welsh Eisteddfod,

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-you know, the music festival.

-Yeah, I know the one, yeah.

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Fascinating thing.

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Sadly, of course, in these times of high bullion prices,

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what will probably happen is that whoever buys this...

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They'll get re-melted.

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..will melt them down and it'll be made into something else.

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-How would you feel about that?

-It's good recycling.

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I'm into recycling, so...

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That's a very, very good way of putting it, actually.

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-And we should all be recycling.

-Yeah!

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But I think that's what will happen.

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Apart from the medals, of course, they will go to a collector.

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And the little gold ring there.

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But I think we're looking at an estimate of something

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like 100 to £150.

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-That's a lot more than we thought!

-More than what I thought, yeah.

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-Is it?

-Yeah!

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And we'd put a reserve on them, of course.

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But I'd just tuck the reserve a little bit under that.

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-Yeah.

-That's fine, yeah.

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And maybe put a reserve of 75 so we don't give them away.

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-That's brilliant.

-But hopefully, on the day,

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-there's enough there to interest people.

-Yeah, very good.

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-Wonderful. Well, will we see you all at the auction?

-Hopefully, yes.

-Yes.

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And we'll make sure we've got plenty of orange juice for Freya.

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So, David, Sharon, hello. Who is the Coldplay fan?

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-Well, I guess I'm the Coldplay fan, really.

-Good taste!

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THEY LAUGH

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I just love Chris Martin's writing.

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And he went to school here, in Exeter.

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-I believe he was brought up here, lived here.

-He did, yes.

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His family still live here, I believe.

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And he went to Exeter Cathedral School.

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-That's where he learned to sing.

-Yes.

-We have...

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..Coldplay memorabilia here. An award for a platinum disc.

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How did you come by it?

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We went to a charity ballroom dance and it was being auctioned there.

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I bid for it and very luckily got it.

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Do you have any provenance with this at all?

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Did anything come with this when you bought it?

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-Would you have a piece of paper, a letter?

-Well...

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Somewhere in the house is a note from Chris Martin's dad

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when he gave this to the charity and said,

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"Look, would you like to auction this?"

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-We're still looking for it, but it's there somewhere.

-OK.

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-We'll find it.

-We are turning the house upside down to find it!

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Well, this was awarded to the band, look, as a platinum award

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in recognition of sales exceeding 50,000 units, for the album X&Y.

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Seeing that on a wall as a piece of contemporary art is great anyway.

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-Yes.

-It's different, it's visual, it's vibrant,

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but it's been signed by the band,

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and that's really, really cool as well.

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And how much did you pay for it? Are we allowed to know that?

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-Oh!

-A princely £50.

-Is that all?

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-That's all.

-Were you the only person bidding?

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We were the only people.

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-Well, in fact, I was the only one.

-I don't believe it.

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I don't believe it! Well, that's why you've got it for £50.

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Well, look, I think this is quite exciting, and it's something new

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to "Flog It!", as well. We haven't seen anything like this before.

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-Value-wise?

-No idea.

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Why don't we say, for argument's sake, let's put one to £200 on this.

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-OK?

-OK.

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I think that's a fair opening gambit,

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and I'm sure Coldplay fans everywhere, all over the world,

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if they were alerted to this, would love to own it.

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And you could have a very big hit on your hands.

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We've seen it happen before on the show.

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-This could top the charts, it really could.

-Excellent.

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Excellent, thank you.

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It's hard to imagine Chris Martin singing here as a boy.

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Now, I wonder if our audience

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are being inspired by their surroundings.

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I love the venue. It's a beautiful cathedral.

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I live in Exeter, so I come here fairly frequently.

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Well, I'm an Exeter girl, so I've been here most of my life,

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and it's one of the most beautiful ones in the country,

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as far as I'm concerned.

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And it...always, always looks lovely,

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and there's always something interesting here.

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The sun is shining, so Caroline's doing her valuations

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and multiplications outside, with a very early calculator.

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So, Lionel, you've brought this fascinating piece of equipment in.

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Tell me about it, please.

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Well, I saw it at an auction, back in Rhodesia.

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And the reason I recognised it was because, years before,

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our father gave me his old slide rule,

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this type of cylindrical slide rule.

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Yeah. And it's a cylindrical slide rule?

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Cylindrical, before the straight, flat types came out.

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-Yes, yeah.

-And then I saw this come up in an auction in Salisbury.

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Harare, as it is called now.

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And I went along and nobody there knew what it was.

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-And when I opened the box and saw this magnificent thing...

-Yeah.

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..I thought, "Come hell or high water, I'm going to get this."

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Yes, I can well imagine, Lionel! And tell me, what did you pay for it?

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-I ended up paying 22 for it.

-Which is equivalent to about...?

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-At that time, it was about £8.

-£8.

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As you can see, this is in a most beautiful box, a mahogany box,

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-made by a very good London maker, Stanley...

-Yeah.

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..which was established in 1854, which all adds to the value.

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-This particular model is from 1927.

-Yeah.

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And it was invented, the cylindrical slide rule,

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by Professor George Fuller.

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It really is wonderful quality and fabulous condition.

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I'll just take it out of here.

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This is, like, the centre stadia line on your...this type of slide rule.

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-Yeah.

-That's where your answer comes up when you're finished.

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-Right.

-And this goes up and down to pick up...

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There's this notch in here where you pick up your numbers

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-at the bottom.

-Yeah.

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Multiplying by something, you pick it up off that one at the top.

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And that's how you retrieve your answers.

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And this moves up and down that.

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These calculations here, the line, is a continuous line.

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It's about 527 foot of one line. Around and round and round.

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So, Lionel, you've decided now the time's right to move this on?

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-Yeah.

-Why have you decided that now is the time?

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-Well, I suppose I need to buy next week's groceries, don't I?

-Oh, gosh!

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Well, let's hope, we have to put a valuation on it,

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enough to buy them. Where do you shop? No, don't mention it!

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I won't mention that!

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I would think anywhere between 150 and £250.

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It's nice, we've got the instruction books with it, and also

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we'll put this later slide rule along with it,

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but the value is really in this.

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But if we put a reserve on it, and a fixed reserve...

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-..are you happy with possibly £180, fixed reserve?

-No, that's too low.

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Too low? What sort of reserve were you thinking?

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I would not like it put on for anything less than 250.

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Could we meet each other in between and say 200?

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-200, all right.

-200, that's a deal. And we'll do our best for you.

-OK.

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-That's fair enough.

-Thank you.

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We won't have to wait long to see if our experts are on the money.

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We're going over to the auction right now.

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And here's a quick recap of all the items that are going

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under the hammer.

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It's not your normal set of medals, so will this mixed collection

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get first, second or third prize in the saleroom?

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Will the Coldplay fans be queuing out of the door

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for this piece of music history?

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Or will Lionel's antique calculator steal the show?

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Find out in a moment.

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Our auction today comes from the largest city in Devon - Plymouth.

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Plymouth has a beautiful coastline and a newly-developed city centre.

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Today's saleroom, however, is located

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in the slightly less picturesque industrial estate at Roborough.

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But beauty's in the eye of the beholder and, personally,

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I can see some real stunners in today's sale.

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First up in the auction, it's my turn to be the expert.

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I am joined by David and Sharon, who are right next to me,

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and we're just about to talk about the X&Y album,

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the platinum disc sales from Coldplay.

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On the day, we said one to £200, because it was a bit of fun.

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We both couldn't gauge its value,

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-because I know you only paid £50 for this.

-Yes.

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But I know, since the valuation day, you've had a chat to Anthony

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and you've now upped that valuation to 500 to 700, fixed reserve at 500.

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-That's right, yes.

-Now, do I take it because you really want to keep it?

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-Well, we would like to keep it.

-Yes.

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But also, we know that, you know,

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we're going to give half to the charity,

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-and we don't want to...

-We don't want to reduce that.

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OK, let's put it to the test. Here we go, look, this is it.

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Coldplay, EMA platinum award disc.

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And I must start it at £400.

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At 410 if you want it. At £400, 10, 420.

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At 420, then. Still against you all at 420.

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Quite sure at 420. Finished, everyone, then, at £420?

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430, 440.

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450, 460. At £460, one more if you want it.

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At £460, quite sure, then?

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Hammer's gone down. He was asking for 460 in the room

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and it didn't sell, so it didn't make its reserve.

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-So it goes home with you.

-It does.

-It's not a bad thing, is it?

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-And we're happy with that.

-It's not a bad thing.

-No, it isn't.

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-You'll cherish it, won't you?

-And we will.

-It's lovely.

-Good.

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So, the platinum disc is staying in Chris Martin's home county of Devon.

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Next, will anyone want the precursor to the calculator?

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Fingers crossed, Lionel, things are going so well.

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Have we got the measure of this saleroom?

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We're just about to find out with the cylindrical slide rule.

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And I love this. I love the box, I love the way it stands.

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We've seen them on the show before, but not in this condition.

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-No, but it's pretty prehistoric, isn't it?

-It is.

-1927, that is.

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And I would not know how to use one of those.

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-You are lucky you were born in the push-button age. I wasn't!

-Yes!

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It's got a revised estimate of two to £300 now,

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with a fixed reserve at £200. It really is an academic's toy.

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Let's find out what the bidders think, shall we? Here we go.

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Let's put it under the hammer. Good luck.

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On next to Lot 461. There it is,

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a Fuller's mahogany spiral slide rule.

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And it's got another little pocket calculator scale with it.

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And two bids, I'm bid £210 exactly. At 210. At £210.

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20 if you want it.

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At 210, 220. 230, 240.

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At £240.

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-Come on, come on.

-At 240, then.

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We're finished at 240? Quite sure?

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Lionel, it's gone.

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The hammer went down just under mid-estimate at £240.

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Not as much as I know you were hoping for.

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-I'm not going to miss it.

-You're not going to miss it, and it's gone.

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-No, so it's fine.

-Job done. That's what it's all about.

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Job done. At the end of the day, we got it away mid-estimate.

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Whether you can use it or not,

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items of this calibre will always be appreciated by someone.

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Well, I've just been joined by Sue and Emma,

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and going under the hammer we've got a good little

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mixed lot - a group of medals there.

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And it's quite an exciting little lot,

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-and it's not a lot of money, either.

-No, it's not.

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-Well, there is a bit of gold in there, as well.

-And some silver.

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And some silver. So it's a nice little lot

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-for a general sale like this.

-It's quite nice, yeah.

-Yeah.

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Something we don't want, just sits in the cupboard.

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-Could be earning you money.

-Certainly could.

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-CHILD CRIES

-So let's put it to the test.

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And that's little Freya on her way!

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Overcome with excitement.

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Yeah, but let's put this to the test, shall we?

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It's going under the hammer. This is it.

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Next is Lot 221, it's a signet ring

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and another group of medals and various bits and pieces there.

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A job lot, and I'm bid £180 for it.

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-Oh, wow!

-Great.

-Wow!

-£180!

-210, 220.

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At 220, then. It's against you all in the room. At £220.

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-Quite sure at 220?

-Straight in, straight out.

-Wonderful.

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Commission bids left on the book, bang, £220.

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And the whole family's enjoyed that,

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because I know little Freya is here.

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Just there, there's little Freya with Dad, look!

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THEY LAUGH

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-I think Freya's trying to buy something.

-I hope not!

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You never know, you could've just bought something.

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-Look, great result. It happened so quickly.

-Yeah!

-It did.

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It baffled all of us! Straight in at the top end.

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Yes, and I think, actually, you know,

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these little mixed lots are good,

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-and they do fetch the prices.

-Yes.

-Very good.

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-You've got to be happy with that?

-Oh, definitely, yes.

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It's a bit more for... I've got four grandchildren,

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so I've got four presents extra to buy for Christmas now, so...

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-Brilliant.

-That's going to be good.

-Brilliant.

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If you've got any little mixed lots like that,

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we would love to see you bring them along to one of our valuation days.

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Details of upcoming dates and venues,

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you can find on our "Flog It!" website. Log on to...

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Follow the links. All the information will be there.

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Come on, dust 'em down and bring 'em in. We'll sell them.

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Well, that's it, our first three items under the hammer.

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Now, I'm off back to Exeter Cathedral

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to take a look at the 12th-century architecture there

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and tell you how it got its name Gothic,

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a name which tends to send a chill down anybody's spine.

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Gothic architecture, used to build churches,

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cathedrals and monuments throughout the country in medieval times.

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The ornate arched ceilings, stained glass windows and flying buttresses

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were a progression from the Norman buildings of years past,

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and took cathedral building to new heights.

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Some 500 years later, however,

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and the word has different connotations.

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So, how did Gothic go from describing ecclesiastical

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architecture like this at Exeter Cathedral

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to evoking images of darkness, doom and gloom and misery like this?

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It's a story of transgression, subversion

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and misunderstanding, and it all started nearly 1,500 years ago.

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The first Goths to make a name for themselves

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were a group of Germanic people of the second century and onwards.

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The Visigoths and the Ostrogoths, known simply as Goths,

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were a powerful east-Germanic tribe

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who helped bring about the downfall of the Roman Empire.

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By bringing about the fall of the Roman Empire,

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the Goths helped destroy what was thought of as classical culture,

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and in turn they were thought of as primitive and barbaric,

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and that's what the word Goth started to imply.

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So, how could the architecture that surrounds me

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here today be synonymous with the barbaric and the primitive?

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I mean, there's nothing really brutal about Gothic architecture.

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Or is there?

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To find out, let's use Exeter Cathedral as our Gothic model.

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Life started here in the 12th century,

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and much of the structure typifies the ideals of the Gothic architect.

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The stonemasons and the designers of the medieval period

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were obsessed with verticality.

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They wanted to build cathedrals that were filled with height

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and light, making you feel closer to heaven,

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and a few special features made this possible.

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So, for a lesson in Gothic architecture.

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First, the vaulted ceiling.

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I'm walking below the longest uninterrupted

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ribbed-vaulted ceiling in the country,

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and it really is quite spectacular when you look down there.

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But what do I mean by ribbed-vaulted ceilings?

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Well, firstly,

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I have to take you back before this period of Gothic architecture

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to the Norman period,

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where Norman buildings were built a lot lower,

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because they didn't have this interlocking vaulted system

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in their ceilings.

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Their ceilings lacked architectural definition,

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they were more of a solid mass.

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A great deal of weight on the walls,

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which meant they couldn't achieve such wonderful height like this.

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The flying buttress.

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To support the great height of the cathedral,

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a new key feature was introduced -

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the flying buttress, and here you can see a series of them.

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They take the weight outwards and downwards.

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So, in doing that, it frees up a lot more space inside

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the building to add stained glass windows, adding a lot more light,

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one of the distinguishing features of Gothic architecture,

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completely at contrast to those dark, dismal days of Norman design.

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And incidentally,

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another key feature in Gothic design was the pointed arched window.

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The Gothic arch.

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Gothic architecture is renowned for its pointed windows.

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Previously, as you can see here on this example

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on the remaining Norman tower,

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the arches were softer and rounder, much more benign.

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Medieval architects liked the stronger

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aesthetic of the pointed window,

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which geometrically fed your eyesight upwards

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into the ribbed-vaulted ceilings,

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and then onwards into the heavens above.

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Like you can see with the example there on that Gothic arch.

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So, Gothic architecture hardly has the dark

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and gruesome undertones we've come to associate with the word.

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Well, maybe the odd bit has, but mostly it seems unrelated.

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So, where is the link?

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Now, this is where it gets interesting.

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At the time of building this cathedral,

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the architecture wasn't described as Gothic -

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it was called Frankish work.

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And it wasn't until the Renaissance in the 15th century

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that the term Gothic was coined to describe it.

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So, why choose such a word?

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During the Renaissance, the classical culture of ancient

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Greece and Rome was again revered, and the work of the medieval times

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rejected as ignorant, and even vandalous, in comparison.

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So, the term Gothic, which had come to mean rude and barbaric,

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was given to our medieval architecture, considered by

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the men of the Renaissance to be a blot on our landscape.

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Despite the haters, the Gothic style was unstoppable.

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By the mid-1600s it was reinvented for a more modern audience,

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and fast-forward to the 18th century,

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and its meaning migrated to a new form of literature -

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fantastical, dark horror stories from authors

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such as Horace Walpole and, later, Mary Shelley.

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And Gothic doesn't die there.

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In the next 200 years, it breathes life into film,

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back into architecture with its very own revival,

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and is expressed through music, art

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and a rather particular way of dressing.

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The word Gothic is as nuanced as it is descriptive,

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from the broad brushstrokes of a sinister atmosphere

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to the technicality that defines true Gothic architecture.

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It's a bridge between centuries,

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and a whole range of artistic and cultural endeavours.

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Back at our valuation day, the cathedral looks rather different,

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with "Flog It!" involved.

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And there's some music to entertain the waiting crowd

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from a local Devon band playing a traditional Devonian tune.

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THEY PLAY FOLK MUSIC

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From folk entertainment to an old-fashioned diminutive

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circus performer.

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David, this is a charming object, but please explain to me

0:26:090:26:12

what you think it is.

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Well, the family legend has it

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that it was given to my great-grandmother

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by General Tom Thumb's mother,

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and it was one of his theatrical walking sticks.

0:26:220:26:25

Good lord.

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Now, Tom Thumb is supposed to be the smallest man alive?

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He was born Charles Stratton,

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and at the age of six months he had grown to 25 inches, two foot one,

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and stopped growing until he was 12, when he shot up to 40 inches.

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Which is still quite small.

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At the age... Yes, and at the age of six,

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he was discovered by Barnum, PT Barnum, the American showman.

0:26:480:26:52

Yeah, who brought a lot of circus acts together and things.

0:26:520:26:54

-The weird and wonderful.

-That's it.

0:26:540:26:56

And Barnum put him on the stage at the age of six,

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and when touring England, performed in Portsmouth,

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and apparently this was a parting gift to my great-grandmother,

0:27:030:27:08

who was the age of four, five, six,

0:27:080:27:10

-and sort of fell in love with this little man.

-Aw.

0:27:100:27:14

-I love it, cos it's such a tactile object.

-Yes.

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I mean, it's got this lovely warm colour, where it has been

0:27:170:27:20

handled for a long time.

0:27:200:27:21

So, it's undoubtedly got a bit of age to it, this.

0:27:210:27:24

And it does look like a little miniature walking stick, doesn't it?

0:27:240:27:28

-Yes.

-And it's got a little silver nib,

0:27:280:27:30

or silver-plated nib on the bottom there.

0:27:300:27:32

I'd love to believe the story.

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I mean, if the story's true, it's a museum piece.

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Although you have brought this little photocopy

0:27:370:27:40

or photostat of a...

0:27:400:27:42

I found that on the web, and I thought that was a walking stick.

0:27:420:27:46

It was only actually two nights ago, I looked at it again

0:27:460:27:49

and saw that's the hilt of a sword.

0:27:490:27:52

Yes, a little miniature sword.

0:27:520:27:53

But this is almost an impossible thing to value.

0:27:530:27:56

That's why I've brought it here today, yes.

0:27:560:27:59

Well, people are either going to buy into the history of it

0:27:590:28:04

and then think, "Well, it's worth 100, 200, £300..."

0:28:040:28:08

I mean, if somebody out there thinks,

0:28:080:28:10

"I've got a photograph,"

0:28:100:28:11

or, "I've got more definitive proof

0:28:110:28:13

"that he used a little walking stick like this,"

0:28:130:28:16

then you could sell for a lot more.

0:28:160:28:18

But I think my gut feeling tells me sort of 100 to 150,

0:28:180:28:22

with maybe 100 fixed reserve.

0:28:220:28:24

-Right, that's fine.

-So, let's give it a go, shall we?

-Yeah.

0:28:240:28:27

And let's hope it makes a big amount of money for such a small thing.

0:28:270:28:31

-Walk off with a record.

-Oh!

0:28:310:28:34

And I've gone for a walk myself, to reveal the exquisite detail

0:28:340:28:38

within the cathedral that might have passed you by.

0:28:380:28:41

This is so typical of an oak pew end dating from the 13th century,

0:28:410:28:45

but look at this. Look at the ornate cresting on this.

0:28:450:28:49

And you have to remember, this has been carved

0:28:490:28:52

from one solid piece of oak, making this entire pew end.

0:28:520:28:56

Look how this angel holding her arms like this has been fashioned

0:28:560:29:00

by a master craftsman, a woodcarver, top of his genre.

0:29:000:29:05

A technique which was taught by the monks,

0:29:050:29:07

which was very, very fashionable during the 12th and 13th centuries.

0:29:070:29:11

It's remarkable. And look at the patination and the wear.

0:29:110:29:15

Thousands and thousands of hands over the centuries have rubbed this

0:29:150:29:18

over the years,

0:29:180:29:19

and this is just one of many simple things that sometimes goes amiss.

0:29:190:29:24

But just take your time and you can spot them.

0:29:240:29:27

That's a true work of art.

0:29:270:29:29

Now, we're out in the sun for more top-quality craftsmanship.

0:29:320:29:36

We've come outside, Ken and June, isn't it lovely?

0:29:360:29:39

-Absolutely brilliant.

-Wonderful.

0:29:390:29:40

And what's shining on me as well is the fact you've brought this

0:29:400:29:43

lovely vintage Rolex gentleman's wristwatch in.

0:29:430:29:47

-Are you a bit of a collector, Ken?

-Um, not really.

0:29:470:29:50

I've got several watches.

0:29:500:29:52

Many of them are old wind-up ones,

0:29:520:29:53

but this was one that the wife's auntie asked me to get them serviced.

0:29:530:29:58

-Right.

-That one and the mantel clock.

0:29:580:30:00

And, of course, had them done.

0:30:000:30:02

When I took them back, she actually gave them to me.

0:30:020:30:05

-Oh, wonderful. Have you ever worn it?

-Never.

0:30:050:30:08

-It's just been put away in the safe.

-Oh, that's such a shame!

0:30:080:30:11

Taken out every now and again. Give 'em a wind up.

0:30:110:30:14

Well, I think that's a real shame,

0:30:140:30:15

because it's a lovely-looking watch.

0:30:150:30:17

It's 1930s, which for you is a very good thing,

0:30:170:30:20

because the Art Deco period is really collectible

0:30:200:30:24

and is a hot area for watches.

0:30:240:30:26

Because I think that was the first time that people started to

0:30:260:30:29

design proper wristwatches.

0:30:290:30:31

Before then,

0:30:310:30:32

they converted little ladies' pocket watches into wristwatches.

0:30:320:30:36

And Rolex, of course, were in the vanguard of that.

0:30:360:30:39

I love that inner chapter ring with Arabic numerals on it.

0:30:390:30:43

And it's in silver as well, which is good.

0:30:430:30:46

They come in gold, of course, and other metals.

0:30:460:30:48

But it is a nice example of its type. Do you like it, June?

0:30:480:30:52

-Yes, I do. Yes.

-But it's a shame to see it stuck in the safe, isn't it?

0:30:520:30:55

Oh, yes. Definitely.

0:30:550:30:57

It's a really good-looking thing, and quite collectible.

0:30:570:30:59

Rolex is one of those top names in watches

0:30:590:31:01

that people like to collect.

0:31:010:31:03

Um, have you thought about the value before?

0:31:030:31:06

Er...several years ago, I took it to an auction room

0:31:060:31:10

that was doing free valuations,

0:31:100:31:12

and at that time they valued it between one and 200.

0:31:120:31:16

Ooh, that's good news for you, then, I hope.

0:31:160:31:19

Because actually, I think

0:31:190:31:21

a realistic estimate today is around three to £400.

0:31:210:31:24

And, you know, because it's in such good auction room condition,

0:31:240:31:28

the fact that it hasn't been messed around with,

0:31:280:31:30

it might even encourage the marker to pay a bit more for it.

0:31:300:31:33

They are still quite collectible.

0:31:330:31:35

And maybe putting the reserve at 280 fixed,

0:31:350:31:39

so we won't sell it below that.

0:31:390:31:40

-No, I'd gladly take it home again if it didn't sell.

-Exactly.

0:31:400:31:43

-I mean, it doesn't take up much room at home.

-No.

-No.

0:31:430:31:45

So, you'd get a lot of interest, I think,

0:31:450:31:48

countrywide, and possibly worldwide for it.

0:31:480:31:50

Ooh, well!

0:31:500:31:52

-But I guess, to use a pun, time will tell.

-That's it.

0:31:520:31:56

Well, thank you so much for bringing it in,

0:31:560:31:58

I look forward to seeing you at the sale.

0:31:580:32:00

-Yep, well, as I say, we'll be there, definitely.

-Wonderful.

0:32:000:32:04

There's still treasure to be uncovered

0:32:040:32:06

in the heart of the cathedral,

0:32:060:32:07

and it's not just Mark and Caroline who can spot a winner.

0:32:070:32:11

Do you know what? There's so much to see here.

0:32:110:32:13

-This is Chinese.

-Definitely Chinese.

0:32:130:32:16

Now, let's have a look at this, shall we?

0:32:160:32:18

Has this been in the family a long time?

0:32:190:32:21

Well, it belonged to my grandparents. Where they got it from, I don't know.

0:32:210:32:25

That could be worth an awful lot of money.

0:32:250:32:27

I'm going to get one of our experts to come here...

0:32:270:32:30

They might not like it,

0:32:310:32:32

cos we're putting them on the spot with the camera.

0:32:320:32:35

Andrew, have a look at this. This one's not marked.

0:32:350:32:38

-It would appear to be early 20th century.

-Yes.

0:32:380:32:40

-The blue's not as dark as I would like it to be.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:32:400:32:43

So, um, value-wise?

0:32:430:32:47

Yes, I'm quite intrigued.

0:32:470:32:48

I really wouldn't want to put a value on that.

0:32:480:32:51

I've seen similar things estimated around 80 to 120 or 100 to 150.

0:32:510:32:56

They've made a couple of hundred pounds sometimes.

0:32:560:32:59

It's in good condition.

0:32:590:33:00

-Yeah.

-Mmm.

-There you are, Michael, maybe a couple of hundred pounds.

0:33:000:33:03

Well, I thought it might be worth about 80.

0:33:030:33:06

Well, it's a lovely thing anyway. Enjoy it, won't you, as well?

0:33:060:33:09

I'm sure with the flowers in it, that'll look absolutely stunning.

0:33:090:33:12

SHE LAUGHS

0:33:120:33:13

-Did you like that, Margaret?

-I did, yes. I like blue.

0:33:130:33:17

And you never know what's going to roll up on "Flog It!".

0:33:200:33:23

-Hello!

-Hello.

-Monica, Megan. Tell me, how did you come by it?

0:33:230:33:27

-We were taking some rubbish to the local tip here in Exeter...

-Yes?

0:33:270:33:31

-..and it was there in the items to be sold.

-No!

0:33:310:33:33

-And how much did you have to pay for it?

-£5.

0:33:350:33:37

Oh, £5! Do you know how much Silver Cross prams retail for today?

0:33:370:33:42

-Never had to buy one.

-Around £1,000.

0:33:420:33:44

And they're actually really trendy with all the cool celebrity mums,

0:33:440:33:49

and these are really making a comeback.

0:33:490:33:52

-Buggies are out, proper prams are back in.

-Yeah. Ideal.

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And the Silver Cross company was started by William Wilson

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in 1877 because he needed transport,

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and very smart transport, for his own children.

0:34:020:34:04

-Wow!

-And it's still going today.

0:34:040:34:06

You know, when this was made in the '40s or '50s, we didn't all

0:34:060:34:11

have cars. People... You know, there weren't so many cars.

0:34:110:34:13

So it didn't need to fold flat and go into the back of a car,

0:34:130:34:17

as things do now.

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So it was altogether a different way of life, way of living.

0:34:180:34:21

Why did you buy it?

0:34:210:34:23

-Um...

-Apart from it's a splendid thing.

0:34:230:34:25

Yeah, my eldest daughter, Zoe, she was pregnant at the time.

0:34:250:34:28

We had quite a large country cottage

0:34:280:34:30

and it was something for the baby to go in when they came to visit.

0:34:300:34:33

-And did they enjoy being in it?

-They loved it, yeah.

0:34:330:34:36

Let's just have a look at it.

0:34:360:34:37

I mean, it's Silver Cross, it's marked here.

0:34:370:34:40

-It's got fabulous suspension, hasn't it?

-It's amazing.

0:34:400:34:44

It really is amazing.

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And it's got the original leather straps here, holding it on.

0:34:450:34:49

The tyres are all right, this cream leather interior.

0:34:490:34:52

And if we look under here...

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you can see, this, we lift it up, and it's to put baby bits in.

0:34:550:35:00

-And put this back here. You said you used that?

-We did.

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-We went out on walks and picnics.

-Coach-built body.

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-You can see the condition of it is fantastic!

-It is.

0:35:070:35:10

I can't believe you got it in a tip.

0:35:100:35:12

We've got to put a value on this.

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We'll put an estimate in auction between 50 and £70.

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And if we put a fixed reserve of £40, are you happy with that?

0:35:190:35:22

Yeah, we would be, wouldn't we? Yep, thank you.

0:35:220:35:25

And I think it'll give many more children a very happy start in life.

0:35:250:35:29

-It's lovely, thank you so much for bringing it.

-Thank you!

0:35:290:35:33

Cities often have a trademark, and this is definitely Exeter's.

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Its architectural and artistic features are stunning,

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but sadly it is time to say goodbye to Exeter Cathedral

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as we head over to the auction room in Plymouth

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for the very last time today.

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And here's a quick recap of all the items we're taking with us.

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This pram may not be that practical, but it's a classic make.

0:35:530:35:57

Will anyone want to stroll away with it?

0:35:570:35:59

Who wouldn't want to own a classic Rolex like this one?

0:36:020:36:05

But how much will the bidders pay for the privilege?

0:36:050:36:08

And we talk to an expert in America

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about the alleged Tom Thumb walking stick.

0:36:130:36:15

Back at our auction house on preview day, it's research time.

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Right, our Tom Thumb memorabilia. Remember this little walking stick?

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Well, we've managed to track down an authority on Tom Thumb items.

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Kathy Mayer, who is the curator of the Barnum Museum

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in Bridgeport, Connecticut, where Tom Thumb was born.

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OK, there's no better person to talk to.

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Now, we've got a video link lined up for you to have a look.

0:36:400:36:43

It's a "Flog It!" first.

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Here's Anthony, here's Anthony's wife.

0:36:440:36:46

Here's Anthony, look, behind the scenes on the computer.

0:36:460:36:49

Now...

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I'm just going to put that down here,

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because right in front of me, we have Kathy.

0:36:520:36:54

Good morning, Kathy, can you hear me?

0:36:540:36:57

-Good morning. Yes, I can hear you, yes.

-Thank you for talking to us.

0:36:570:37:00

I notice there's a carriage in the background behind you,

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is that General Tom Thumb's?

0:37:030:37:06

Yes, it is, as General Tom Thumb's carriage

0:37:060:37:08

-is part of the museum's collection.

-Wow.

0:37:080:37:11

You've seen some images of our walking stick, what do you think?

0:37:110:37:14

It's wonderful for a museum to see something

0:37:140:37:18

that plausible as being authentic.

0:37:180:37:20

Not all artefacts that come to the museum

0:37:200:37:23

-have that much rich opportunity to investigate.

-Sure.

0:37:230:37:28

But this walking stick actually did.

0:37:280:37:29

It's the right period, it's the right size,

0:37:290:37:32

the story corresponds, so it's an intriguing object for a museum.

0:37:320:37:36

Yeah, this is fascinating.

0:37:360:37:37

Do you have any walking sticks in the museum? You must have a couple.

0:37:370:37:41

We do, we actually have writing props,

0:37:410:37:43

we have all types of artefacts,

0:37:430:37:44

but the walking stick that we have is probably from Tom Thumb

0:37:440:37:48

a little later, when he was a little bit taller.

0:37:480:37:51

Is this something you might be having a bid on later?

0:37:510:37:53

Ordinarily, we would probably follow it,

0:37:530:37:55

-but the Barnum Museum was hit with a tornado...

-Oh, gosh.

0:37:550:37:59

..two years ago, so sadly we've had to put a hold on acquiring

0:37:590:38:03

any kind of other items while we fix the National Landmark structure.

0:38:030:38:08

Oh, well, look, good luck to your repairs, good luck to you

0:38:080:38:12

as well and the museum, and thank you so much for talking to me today.

0:38:120:38:15

-Thank you, and good luck. We will follow it, though.

-Oh, great.

0:38:150:38:19

-Yeah, watch it go online. Bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

0:38:190:38:22

Fabulous. Well, we've talked to the experts, and we're pleased.

0:38:220:38:26

And hopefully, this will hit the top end of its estimate

0:38:260:38:29

and do a little bit more.

0:38:290:38:31

It's lift-off time as the auction gets under way for the second time.

0:38:320:38:37

And first up, the vintage pram.

0:38:370:38:39

Well, so far, so good.

0:38:400:38:41

I tell you what, there's a wonderful atmosphere in here.

0:38:410:38:44

It can only get better, and right now we're going to try

0:38:440:38:48

and turn £5 into maybe 40 or £50 with Monica and Megan's help,

0:38:480:38:52

with that little pram that you brought into the valuation day,

0:38:520:38:55

-which you only picked up for a fiver, didn't you?

-We did.

0:38:550:38:57

-At the dump, was it?

-At the dump in Exeter.

-At the local dump.

0:38:570:39:00

-And it's transported three grandchildren in it.

-It has.

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Now, that's what I call great value for money.

0:39:030:39:06

I mean, it really is good value for money.

0:39:060:39:08

They're very expensive to buy new, these Silver Cross prams.

0:39:080:39:11

Coach-built, fabulous quality.

0:39:110:39:12

And hopefully, somebody else can push three grandchildren about in it

0:39:120:39:15

-after today.

-Hope so.

0:39:150:39:16

Well, you know, that's what it's all about - classic recycling.

0:39:160:39:19

You can't get greener than antiques.

0:39:190:39:21

Let's put it to the test. It's going under the hammer now, here we go.

0:39:210:39:25

On next to lot 363, it's a Silver Cross pram.

0:39:250:39:29

I remember it well, I was wheeled around in one

0:39:290:39:31

till the age of about six, I think, which is a bit sad, isn't it?

0:39:310:39:34

But there it is. And I'm actually bid £40, and I promise it's not me.

0:39:340:39:37

At £40.

0:39:370:39:38

Two if you want it, at 42. Five, at 45 now.

0:39:380:39:42

Eight anywhere? At £45.

0:39:420:39:45

Quite sure then? At £45. I'll sell it...

0:39:450:39:48

It's gone, Megan.

0:39:500:39:51

-Won't be taking it home then, will I?

-It's gone, it won't be going home.

0:39:510:39:55

-That was a bit of fun.

-Oh, brilliant, and what a good return on £5.

0:39:550:39:58

-Very good.

-Very good investment.

0:39:580:40:00

That's nearly ten times what they paid for it.

0:40:010:40:04

Far from a rubbish result.

0:40:040:40:06

Well, time is definitely up for Kenneth and June's Rolex watch.

0:40:060:40:10

It is a little gem from the Art Deco period.

0:40:100:40:12

Hello, great to see you again.

0:40:120:40:14

-Do you wear a watch?

-Do you know, I don't any more.

0:40:150:40:17

No, I kind of clocked you, if you don't mind the expression -

0:40:170:40:20

that wasn't supposed to be a pun -

0:40:200:40:22

and I thought, "He doesn't wear a watch."

0:40:220:40:24

Well, hopefully it goes for the top end of the estimate.

0:40:240:40:26

I know you've tweaked the reserve slightly.

0:40:260:40:28

-Just upped it slightly.

-Just upped it to £300 fixed.

0:40:280:40:31

We should get that. Let's put it in under the hammer. Here we go.

0:40:310:40:34

176.

0:40:340:40:36

A gentleman's Rolex Marconi wristwatch.

0:40:360:40:39

There it is, and £260, at 260.

0:40:390:40:42

270, 280.

0:40:420:40:45

At £280. 290.

0:40:450:40:47

300...and 10.

0:40:470:40:49

At £310 at the back, there.

0:40:490:40:51

At £310 in the corner.

0:40:510:40:54

And finished at 310, then. Quite sure?

0:40:540:40:58

Just, we just got it away. 310. Phew!

0:40:580:41:03

-Not bad.

-Not bad.

0:41:030:41:04

Not bad. You happy with that?

0:41:040:41:07

-I would've been just as happy if it hadn't have sold, you know?

-Sure.

0:41:070:41:10

It's not a problem for me, it's just that...it's gone.

0:41:100:41:14

It'll be a bit of spending money for us when we go to Australia.

0:41:140:41:16

-Are you off to Australia? Have you been before?

-Yes.

-Good for you.

0:41:160:41:20

What a lovely country.

0:41:200:41:21

Going under the hammer right now, Charles Stratton's walking stick.

0:41:250:41:29

You know what I'm talking about, don't you? Yes, Tom Thumb.

0:41:290:41:31

Wonderful little walking cane, David,

0:41:310:41:33

thank you for bringing that in. Why have you decided to sell this?

0:41:330:41:37

Um, it's just been sat in a drawer for years and years, so...

0:41:370:41:42

At least it's been safe while it's in the drawer,

0:41:420:41:45

because condition is key here, and it's perfect, isn't it?

0:41:450:41:49

If I'm taking it just to an auction house,

0:41:490:41:52

they might've just dismissed it, or put it in a minor lot,

0:41:520:41:55

but bringing it here, you've done the research.

0:41:550:41:57

Well, we like it, let's find out what this lot think, shall we?

0:41:570:42:00

Here we go. It's going under the hammer now. Good luck.

0:42:000:42:02

The next lot is lot 400, which is a small or miniature walking stick,

0:42:020:42:09

there it is, attributed to General Tom Thumb.

0:42:090:42:13

Um, several bids for it. I'm bid at £210 to start it, at 210.

0:42:130:42:19

-Straight in!

-Against you all in the room at 210. 220, 230...

0:42:190:42:22

240, 250...

0:42:220:42:25

250, then. Still against you all at 250.

0:42:250:42:28

Finished in the room at 250.

0:42:280:42:30

-260, then.

-Another bid on the phone.

0:42:300:42:33

At 270, 280, 290.

0:42:330:42:36

At £290.

0:42:360:42:38

300.

0:42:380:42:39

I'm bid 10. At £310.

0:42:390:42:43

-At 310, 320. 330.

-Walking a bit further.

0:42:430:42:46

At £330.

0:42:460:42:48

340 now. At 340, bidding's on the phone.

0:42:480:42:52

At £340, last chance in the room, then. At £340. Finished?

0:42:520:42:58

That was a great result.

0:43:000:43:01

That wasn't a tiny result, that was a great result,

0:43:010:43:03

you've got to be happy with that.

0:43:030:43:05

It is. Probably a new fishing rod out of that.

0:43:050:43:07

THEY LAUGH

0:43:070:43:09

Well done.

0:43:090:43:10

Well, that's it. Another day, another auction for "Flog It!".

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We started the show on spooky Dartmoor,

0:43:180:43:21

we unearthed treasures from Exeter Cathedral,

0:43:210:43:23

and the auction, well, that was daunting enough, wasn't it?

0:43:230:43:26

But we live to tell the tale.

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I hope you've enjoyed today's show.

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See you next time for many more surprises.

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