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Walking on the decks of this historic ship, HMS Warrior, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
you are literally transported back in time to the world | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
of the Victorian sailor where you can see hundreds of men | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
handling the yarn, rigging and the sails, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
ready to fire a shot at the enemy on the fighting deck here. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
Well, there's a totally different crew on board today, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
but they do have their work cut out. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
Welcome to Flog It! | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
When Queen Victoria came to the throne | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Britannia commanded the seas, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
its mighty fleet had defeated the French | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
and the Royal Navy acted as world policeman. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
But her fleet of wooden ships were becoming outdated. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Design needed to progress to keep up with the French. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
A ship clad in iron was commissioned, HMS Warrior was born. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
The fastest, the largest and strongest ship | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
in the world at the time. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
Today she rests in the Portsmouth Historic Dockyard | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
and will be our host for a rather special valuation day. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Cheese! | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Flog It! first visited Portsmouth a good six years ago, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
back in series five. Tell you what, we found so much booty back then | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
we decided to come back! And look at the weather, we're blessed with it. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-Summer frocks are on. Hello, everyone! -Hello! | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
-What have you got in there? -Sandwiches. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Sandwiches. Good luck with that. That's 80 to 120, isn't it? | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
What are they? Cheese and pickle? | 0:01:47 | 0:01:48 | |
-Yes! -That was a good guess, wasn't it? What have you brought along? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
-My ginger jar. -Ginger jar. Well, good luck with that. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
You see, it doesn't matter what you brought along, you could be | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
one of the lucky ones going through to auction later on | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
and earning a small fortune. I know what this lot are here for, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
to ask our experts that all-important question, which is... | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
CROWD: What's it worth? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
And if you're happy with the valuation, what are you going to do? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
Flog it! | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
Already walking the plank are our experts | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Will Axon and Michael Baggott. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
Like true trawlermen, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
they're straight into the queue fishing for treasure. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
-Nice collection, isn't it? -Yes, lovely bright colours. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
-I got a print from Nelson in the Battle of the Nile. -Oh, yes. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
And it looks like they've found their first items. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
-Are they things that you're thinking of putting into auction? -Yes. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
-Something you might want to flog today? -Depending on price. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
It's all aboard HMS Warrior for a day of antiques and auctions. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
Here's what we've got coming up on today's show. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
HMS Warrior has sailed the seven seas | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
so today's show has a truly international flavour. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
From Mexico, candlesticks made from ancient stone. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
Made in Germany, the goddess of hunting, Diana, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
a beautiful and fearsome woman. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
And from France, the top name in bronze. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Which will make the most at auction today? | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
130, 140... | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
We're going to have a marvellous day. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
The sun is shining, everyone body is smiling | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
and it looks like Michael Baggett has spotted a real gem down there. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
A pair of Chinese vases. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Let's take a closer look at what he's talking about. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Ruth, I spotted you in the queue with these marvellous vases. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
-Can you tell me, where did they come from? -They were my grandmother's. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
I think they might have been a wedding present. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
She was married in June 1929. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
Did she have them out on display? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
As a child I remember them being out | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
and she had a big pampas grass in them. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
I know the ones,... | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
Yes, and obviously when she passed away they passed to me | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
and I don't really use them. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
They're just stuck behind a door and it's a shame, really. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
-They're door stops at the moment? -Sort of! -Well, they are heavy enough! | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
They are. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
They have the signs that we look for in the trade of private ownership. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
-Right. -Continuous private ownership. Do you know what that sign is? -No. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
It's specks of white emulsion. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
-Ah! -All over them! | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
SHE GIGGLES | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
Because people never used to cover up, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
-they just used to do the painting and you get splatters. -Yes, you do. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
-They scream Chinese. -Right. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-But very, very early form of Chinese vessel. -Right. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
This shape would date back possibly 2,500 or 3,000 years. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
What we've got here is we've got cloisonne decoration | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
and there are two ways that you can put enamelling into a metal surface. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
Champleve and cloisonne. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
Cloisonne is basically where you make wires in the body, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
-either through inset or through casting. -Right. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
And then you'll fill it with powdered glass | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
and you'll fire it | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
and the glass will vitrify and melt and form a surface. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
But you can't do it all at once | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
and you have two build up the different colours | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
and then when it actually comes over the surface, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
the decoration, then you rub it back. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
Often, in this case, these are quite moderate quality. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
You get little holes, all left. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
If you have a look all in the enamel, little pockmarks where | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
the glass hasn't quite filled up and they've still smoothed it off. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Oh, I see. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
There was a great revival of Chinese style in the West | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
in the 1680s, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
then again in 1750, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
then again in 1820, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
and then at the end of the 19th-century. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
These are end of the 19th-century. They're about 1870. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
-Really! -Up to about 1900. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
Oh, I didn't think they'd be that old. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Really you date them by the quality | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
and also by the colour of the bronze because they are cast bronze. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
You've got these little zoomorphic handles. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Yes, I do like the handles, I must admit. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
-They're quite characterful, aren't they? -Yes, they are. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
-And again, they are copied from archaic Chinese bronze vessels. -OK. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
What they are is a nice, large, decorative pair. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-Any ideas of the value? -I've absolutely no idea. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
I mean, Chinese things are going through the roof at the moment | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
but the things that the Chinese want to buy back | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
are Imperial quality, made for their own market. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
-These are very much for export and its poor quality. -No, that's fine. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
-Let's be cautious and say £80-£120. -OK. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
-And let's put a fixed reserve of £70 on them. -Right. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-They won't go for any less than that. -Right. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
-So, thank you very much for bringing them in. -No problem. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
I always like to see a bit of cloisonne. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
It gives me my chance to say the process of cloisonne | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
which is amazingly fascinating. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
-I'm sure we'll get them away at the sale for you. -Excellent, thank you very much. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
Michael Baggott with a masterclass in cloisonne. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
And now to a very special piece of bronze made by a very special man. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
-So, Sandy, tell me, are you a dog lover? -I am. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
Yes, I'm an animal lover. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
I love them dogs, I think they're beautiful, they really are. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Is that what drew you originally to the sculpture? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
It was my father's originally. He left them to me. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Was your father a keen collector, was he? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Yes, he used to collect lots of bits and pieces. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
He used to go to jumble sales and charity shops. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
OK, that's always a good start. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
-And it's rubbed off on you, has it? -Yes, because I'm now doing it! | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
Are you? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
So, you've obviously done a bit of research, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
I would have thought, on a piece like this. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
Of course, nowadays, with our access to the World Wide Web | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
and so on, it's very easy to be a bit of an armchair detective. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
It's easy, as well, when they put their name in the base, isn't it? | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
-PJ Mene. -Pierre Jules Mene. -Exactly right. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Yes, born 1810 in France, Paris, lived until 1877. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
And I would pretty much say that without doubt, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
he was the most successful animalier bronze producer of his time, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
if not, ever. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
Because, he was a man who was quite happy to be down the foundry | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
sleeves rolled up, apron on, getting his hands dirty, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
producing the bronzes that he would then | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
sell on to the French aristocracy. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
And he would be just as comfortable, shall we say, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
schmoozing his clients as he would be with working | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
with the lads in the foundry, getting his hands dirty. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
This has been made from a mould. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
-You make the bronze and the mould still exists, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
So, when Mene died in 1877, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
the moulds of the bronzes were passed on to his son, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
and of course, that meant he could keep producing the bronzes. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
But, you wouldn't say it was by Mene necessarily | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
because it wasn't in his lifetime. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
So, you got to be a bit careful that even though | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
it is signed Mene, that's signed in the actual mould itself, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
rather than it being produced in his lifetime, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
with him actually having handled it, checked over the quality, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
cos he would have done that with every single bronze that left. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
A lot of the time when you get later cast examples, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
which are using the same moulds, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
but are cast with perhaps not quite as much care | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
and attention to detail, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
you lose the definition, whereas here, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
you've got real character, haven't you, on the faces of these dogs. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
You've got on the later examples, this line here, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
the crispness of the base, you lose a bit of that definition. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
As soon as that starts going a bit wavy | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
or it's not quite parallel or true, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
you've got to be a bit suspicious. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
So, again, handy hint for people at home who maybe are buying bronzes | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
because they are easy to reproduce, that's the danger, you see. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
And, underneath of course, you want to see this. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
You want to see, these haven't been off in years, have they? | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
No, they're all original. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:34 | |
That's exactly what you want to see so I think this is probably | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
produced towards the end of his lifetime, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
maybe even into the late 19th century, early 20th century. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
But I'm telling you, it's still a nice example, isn't it? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
It is, it's beautiful. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
You're selling it to maybe buy something else, you said? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
-Yes. -There might be something at the auction. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
-There might be! -You never know. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
We'll have to make sure this goes in for something you want to buy. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
Yes, so I don't start looking round, that's right! | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
Now were talking about selling and buying, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-what do you think it's worth? Have you got an idea in your mind? -Yes. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
It's got to be worth over £150, I would reckon. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
-I would agree with you. -I would reckon. -I would agree with. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
If we were definite that this was within his lifetime | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
and he'd handled it and so on, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
I would have said the value would have been in the high hundreds, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
but I think because I'm erring on the side of caution | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
that it might be a later model, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
I'm happy to try it at sort of 200 to 300. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Yes, because I wouldn't sell it for less than £150, I don't think. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
Do you want to put the reserve at, say, £180? | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
-Yes, 180. -180? Yes. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
I don't think your going to have any trouble seeing it away because... | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
-I shouldn't think so because... -Good subject, good name, nice quality. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
-It is. -You ticked all my boxes, Sandy. See you at the saleroom! | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
-Thank you very much. -Not at all. -That's great, thank you. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
We'll have to wait and see how much that dog is worth in the auction. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
We've been holding valuation days for over ten years now. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
We've seen everything, from aeroplane propellers | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
to Beatles memorabilia, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
so let's see what is popular with the people of Portsmouth. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
-A nice old Toby jug. -Yes. He's musical. -Great! | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
A design, really, to put a smile on your face because | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
they're caricatures of local politicians, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
local policeman that you'd want to ridicule and have a go at. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Hands up who else has got a Toby jug then, or something like a Toby jug? | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
Look at that, one, two, three... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
You can always guarantee a few Toby jugs, can't you? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Michael's gone ashore | 0:11:22 | 0:11:23 | |
and it looks like he's found something rather special. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Christopher, thank you for bringing along this most extraordinary | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
pair of candlesticks. I'm sure there's a story behind them. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Can you tell me what you know about them and where you got them from? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
Yes, they came from the consul general in Guatemala City. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
He was consul general from 1957 to 1960 | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
and he was a friend of the family and they were given as a gift. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
They are set in sterling standard silver and the stone actually | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
-comes from the temple of the snake god at Chichen Itza. -Good grief! | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
And they are in the form of the entrance to Chichen Itza. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
Good Lord. So, the stone itself is 500, 600, 700-years-old. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:12 | |
-Must be, yes. -And yet, what they've done is rather strange to us. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:18 | |
They've taken fragments of the ruins, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
-which, of course, you can't do these days! -Well, no, no! | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
And they've fashioned into these most extraordinary candlesticks. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
There is a fashion for silver working | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
in this sort of Mayan, Aztec, sort of native South American style. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:38 | |
I think it really started in Mexico, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
the Taxco company and Hector Aguilar. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
-They were basically working in the '20s, '30s and '40s. -Right. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
I just think it's the sheer innovation of taking | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
basically an archaeological fragment | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
and turning it into something modern and useful. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
They are super. If we turn them over, they are marked sterling, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
they have the little Mexican symbol on for sterling silver | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
-and the 925 mark and they're rather spectacular. -Yes. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
And I daresay, it's not a word I use often, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
but they're quite funky and they would go into, I think, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
many modern interiors and set it off an absolute treat. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
-They were an 18th birthday present to you? -Yes. That was 1962. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
Giving away your age now! I know, yes. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
Why have you decided to sell them now? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
Well, I am now in a very small flat. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
I've got loads of other things, silver, china | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
and there's only so much you can keep in one small space. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
Absolutely, absolutely. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
Well, I think they're so unusual | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
is quite difficult for me to value them. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
You know, people will either love them or they won't understand them. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
So, we have to appreciate that. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
I think what we'll do is put a fixed reserve of £150 on them. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
-Right. -But I think, let's put a wider estimate on and say £200-£400. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:02 | |
And hopefully get the top of that estimate? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
Hopefully get the top end, but I still think £150 would be fair | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
on a quiet day, but let's just place it so that the market decides. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Yes, a come-and-get-me sort of thing. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Run-and-get-me, hopefully, at the auction | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
and hopefully there will be several of them. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Thank you for bringing along something that is unique to me, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
I've not seen the like before | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
and I'm sure the people at the auction will be equally delighted. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
-Excellent. -And hopefully bidding! -I hope so! | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
-Thank you very much indeed. -Thank you. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Before we head off to auction for the very first time in today's show, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
I want to show you these, the wheels that steer the Warrior. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
Look at them! They're huge, aren't they? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
There's enough space between these for them to be manned by eight men | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
and in extremely rough conditions, they'd be teamed by 16 men, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
all struggling to keep this vessel in a straight line. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
To give you an idea of the strength needed to turn these wheels | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
which wound the rope to turn the rudder, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
you had to revolve these wheels six complete revolutions | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
in order to turn the ship from midships to hard to starboard. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
But, right now, we have to navigate our way across to the sale room | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
and here's what we're taking with us. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Ruth's Chinese vases are a good example of cloisonne work | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
but will anyone like the look of them in the auction room? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
PJ Mene is the name to remember in bronze but will these greyhounds | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
be quick out of the starter's block in the sale? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
And these candlesticks are so unusual, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
they are very difficult to value. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
We are leaving the busy dockyards of Portsmouth | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
to head north for today's auction. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
And this is where we're putting all of our items to the test today, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
Andrew Smith & Son auction rooms in the heart of Hampshire. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
A little village called Itchen Stoke. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
I tell you what, this barn is absolutely full of gems. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
It's got all the ingredients of a classic sale today. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
And we have two auctioneers on the rostrum, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
Andrew Smith and Nick Jarrett. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
At auction buyers and sellers both pay commission. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
Today it's 15% for our sellers. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
But now, our first lot. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
This is a first on Flog It!, that's for sure. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
We don't get that many Mexican things actually. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
-They are quite unusual. -They are very, very unusual. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
I know they took your eye. Beautifully worked. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
At first, I'll be honest, at first I didn't like them at all. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
I really didn't. They were very unusual and I thought I'd film them. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
By the time we'd finished, I thought they were lovely. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Interestingly enough, I said to the auction room, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
"Have you sold many Mexican things before, artefacts or works of art?" | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
They said, "Actually, something came to mind! | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
"We sold a sombrero a few years ago for £200 to somebody locally!" | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
So maybe that person who lives locally | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
who spent £200 on a sombrero would like a pair of candlesticks. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
I suppose if the sombrero goes on a peg in the middle, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
the candlesticks go either side. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
-Worth a lot more than a sombrero, put it that way. -I hope so! | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
Let's find out what the bidder's think. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Lot 275, the sterling silver and carved stone snake god candlesticks. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:06 | |
These are terrific, have you seen them? Lovely style to them. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Possibility that the stone is actually antique, from a temple. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
I've got several bids. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
I'm going to start you hear at £110. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
120 can I say? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
At 110, 120 is it? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
£110, 120, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
130, 140, 150? | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
£140, 150 can I say? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
150, 160? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
£150. On the side here at 150. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Selling, make no mistake, at £150. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
I don't think they're expensive at this level either. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
At £150, all done? At £150, are you done? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
Sold at £150. That is auctions for you. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
You win some, you lose some, but in this case we didn't lose, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
-we got it away... -Absolutely. -..on the reserve, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
-which is the main thing. -Excellent. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
At least they're out of the cupboard, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
they'll be used by someone. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:58 | |
As long as we haven't angered the snake god, I'm fine with that! | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
From Mexico to China. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
Well, a touch of the Orient comes to the south coast now | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
with a pair of Chinese bronze vases belonging to Ruth. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
They're about to go under the hammer with a value of around £80-£120. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
Why have you decided to sell them now? | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
-Well, they just sat around not doing anything. -Doing nothing. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
What did your grandmother put in them? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
-There was huge, do you remember those huge feathers? -Yes. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-I suppose sort of '70s, late '70s. -I know the ones. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Furry sort of things, bright colours. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Which is a good look, really! | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
-It is for an interior designer. -Let's see what they make, shall we? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
It's worth a try, isn't it? Here we go, let's find out what the bidders think. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
Lot 540, the Chinese copper and champleve vases. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
Good vases, these. Where are you going to start me for them? | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
£50? £50 then, surely? | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
£50 I have. And five? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
55, 60, five, 70? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
At £65. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
-Oh, we need a bit more than that. -At £65? -We do, I'm afraid. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
At £65? | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
70, can I say? At £65? No? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
At £65, we're going on. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Maybe they needed the feathers in them. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
65 then, all done. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
-Not sold, I'm afraid. -Sorry about that. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
-Oh! Never mind. -Look on the bright side, it's not a chest of drawers, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
-you don't have to lug that home, do you? -No! | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
-At least they go on the back seat of the car. -That's right, yes. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
Today wasn't the day for Kim so | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
she's decided to put them back into auction in a couple of month's time. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Who let the dogs out? That's what I want to know. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
There's lots running around here and Sandy, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
you are just about to sell your bronze sculpture of a greyhound. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
-You are a dog lover. -I'm a cat lover more. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
-That's why you're selling your bronze! -But I do like dogs! -Do you? | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
-I love everything. -Have you checked | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
the ones running around here? They're all over the place! | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
They certainly are! | 0:19:45 | 0:19:46 | |
Wonderful casting anyway. I like this bronze greyhound. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
-It's lovely, isn't it? -Yes. -I think it's wonderful. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
And you're a bit of a collector, aren't you? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
-You want to do a bit of dealing. -Yes. -Good for you! | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-I go to antiques fairs and things. -It's great fun, isn't it? | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
-It really is good fun. -It is. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
It's just good to get out there. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
Good luck with that. Let's see what we can do for you, shall we? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
Fingers crossed here we go. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
Lot 500, the bronze group of the greyhound and puppy. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
Quality piece. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
-It is a quality piece. -And I've got to start you at 140. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
150, can I say? 140 with me. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
150, is it? 140, here, 150, 160. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
-Good, we've got some interest in the room. -170 anywhere? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
The chap over there against the wall is bidding quite heavily. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
180? | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
-He's going to try... -Oh, good. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
-190. -He's going to get it for 190. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
190, I have, are you sure? | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
-I wanted more. -Well, so did I. -We all want more! | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
190, think that is it. At £190, are we done? | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
-Yes. It is gone. -I think he got a good deal there. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
I think he did, too. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
We caught up with the new owner of the bronze to find out what | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
inspired him to buy it. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
I bought it because we have a greyhound, a rescue greyhound | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
and we've got one little bronze, we thought another bronze would be a lovely thing to buy. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
And so it fits in really well with our little collection. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
It's good to know the greyhounds will be well looked after in their new home. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
Well, that is it for our first three items in today's show, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
so join me on a journey into the nearby New Forest, where we discover | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
its history, through the eyes of the very important inhabitants. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
They are known by some as the architects of the New Forest, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
and they have been wandering the woodlands | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
and heaths for thousands of years. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
They are no taller than 147 centimetres | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
and you do not want to stand too close to their behinds, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
as they have got a rather powerful kick. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
They are, of course, New Forest ponies. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
NEIGHING | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
The New Forest has recently been designated a National Park | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
and it is home to an abundance of British wildlife. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
But the star attraction for many thousands of visitors each year | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
has to be the New Forest ponies. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
The breed have been here for centuries, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
and it is really down to their intelligence | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
and strength that they are able to survive the harsh winters. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
But as we are just about to find out, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
today, their main threat isn't environmental. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
It is economical and social, brought about by man. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Already on my little walk this morning, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
I have heard cuckoos, I've seen rabbits and deer, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
but this is a sight to behold, look at that mother with her foal. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
There are some 4,500 ponies happily munching their way through the Forest. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
And the relationship between the ponies | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
and the land is interdependent. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
Obviously, they need to graze for survival, but the land | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
needs them, because otherwise it wouldn't look like this. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
It would be overgrown. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
They may appear to be roaming around wild, just doing their own thing | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
but they're not, they are owned and managed by Commoners, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
who have the right to graze their ponies here on the New Forest. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
Those rights and traditions were written a very long time ago. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
The tale of Commoners' rights, starts, as so do many, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
with William the First or William the Conqueror. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
He claimed the vast rural area in the south as his royal forest and deer hunting ground. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
And he did so at the expense of many villages that were pulled down | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
to make way for a new, single compact area known as Nova Foresta. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:33 | |
Many of the local population lost their homes | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
and ability to make a living from the Forest. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
Later as the somewhat small compensation, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
the Crown offered the local people are a number of rights, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
the main one was they could graze their ponies and cattle | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
on the land and secondly, they could dig clay and also cut peat for fuel. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
900 years later, and many of these rights are no longer exercised, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
but the entitlement to turn ponies out on to the Forest is | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
keenly upheld by Commoners like Jonathan Gerelli, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
who is here to tell me about those rights. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
-The right doesn't go with the person, it goes with his property. -Oh, I see. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
So you need own or occupy, so rent etc, land which has Forest rights. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:23 | |
The right you need is the right of pasture. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
The Commoners really turn the stock out on to the Forest. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
It helps supplement their income, that is the traditional thing. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Of course, these days, there is virtually no money to be | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
made in keeping of ponies and it is really very much done as a tradition. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
A tradition that is passed down through the generations. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
How do manage them? What exactly do you do? How do you look after them? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
Yes, that is thing. When you put your animals out in the Forest, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
there is nothing to stop them wandering from one end to the other. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
But they don't tend to do that. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:52 | |
They tend to stay in a particular area and we call that | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
in the Forest, a halt. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Every individual pony is branded, it carries the owner's individual mark. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
We tend to have the foals. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Some we sell as foals, some we keep on as a young stock. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
They make absolutely super riding ponies. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
Hardy little things, aren't they? | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
The big selling point of the Forest ponies is they have marvellous temperaments. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
Well, it's so laid back here, isn't it, like the owners! | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
-Look at this, it is beautiful. -We are so lucky to live in this area. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
You do sometimes take it for granted | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
and every now and again, it's a beautiful morning and you think, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
God, I am lucky to be here. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
The common of pasture tradition itself has changed very little, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
and although there are people like Jonathan keeping the practice alive, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
there are also threats to its survival. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
There are some 500 properties with rights of common in the Forest | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
and they are often end highly sought after locations, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
and therefore, very expensive. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
This has meant the next generation of local people | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
with an interest in the Forest have been priced out of the market. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
Here in Burley, for example, two-thirds of the houses with common | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
rights are second homes or part-time homes, and the residents aren't | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
too keen on taking up the challenge of putting animals out to pasture. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
As well as being a Commoner, Jonathan his agister | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
for the Forestry Commission, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
and knows only too well the impact man has on the Forest. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
I noticed when I took the Lymington ferry to go to the Isle of Wight | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
last month, that it said, "Please drive slowly and be careful," | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
"because already 20 ponies have been killed on the road this year." | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Is that the sort of average, each year? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
-So you are talking about 40 ponies a year? -More than that, I am afraid. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:42 | |
We have averaged about 160 accidents a year and probably of those, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:48 | |
90 to 100 animals are killed or seriously injured. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
That must be heartbreaking? | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
It very much is. And that is part of the agister's duty to attend those accidents and that is | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
the downside of the job. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Apart from visitors coming to the New Forest, reducing their speed, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
what else can they do to maintain this wonderful tradition? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Please don't feed the ponies. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
A big temptation for people to feed the ponies. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
It attracts them to the road which we don't want. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
Come here, admire what we have got here, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
but please just admire from a distance. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
You are so lucky to use this fantastic area we have got. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
The New Forest is literally shaped by the ponies that graze on it | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
and you can't help think | 0:27:29 | 0:27:30 | |
it's character is also defined by these beautiful animals. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
But it takes man's hand to manage them and if the traditions | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
of the Commoners are not upheld, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:38 | |
then the New Forest would very quickly look altogether different. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
Back at our valuation day on HMS Warrior, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
the waiting crowd are being entertained | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
by the Royal Marines Association Concert Band, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
playing a selection of sea shanties. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
A sea shanty was sung to accompany work on board ships, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
although not many were sung on war vessels such as Warrior. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
It is thought that Drunken Sailor, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
was one of the few allowed by the Royal Navy. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
MUSIC: Drunken Sailor | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
What a fabulous performance from some very skilled musicians. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
Now, Will has found two hand-made vases that you may well recognise, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
but can you guess what he thinks they are worth? | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Well, Ann, from the Spinnaker behind me there, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
a bit of cutting edge technology in the 21st century, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
down to these, which, in their time, the Moorcroft family were | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
pretty cutting edge in technology and design, too. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
Viewers at home will know these are Moorcroft. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
They are going to be well-versed in the history of Moorcroft | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
and so on so I am going to cut to the chase and say, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
where have you got them from and why are you selling them? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
We bought them in the late '70s or early '80s at a collector's fair | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
in the Guildhall in Portsmouth, here. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
OK, so they have not strayed far from where you bought them. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
No, not at all. We just bought them because we liked them. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
We didn't know anything about them at the time. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
That's good, because if you are buying things | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
that you like, it is pretty hard to get wrong. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Contemporary design, the Spinnaker behind me, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
going back to it, do you like it? | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
Yes, I do, actually. I wasn't sure when they started to build it. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
It grows on you, doesn't it? I mean, I think it's a great looking building | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
but I bet there are plenty of people who look at that and don't quite get it and it was the same with these. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
But if you like them, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
you have tapped into where Moorcroft were coming from with this | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
very artistic decoration, very decorative, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
very colourful almost on this sea-blue ground, isn't it? | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
It is very organic, shall we say, which is really the angle they | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
were coming from, as well as with the shape and with the decoration. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
You say you bought them from a fair, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
so, what sort of money did you have to pay for them? | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
If I remember rightly, I think we paid about £60 for the two. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
That is not bad going, £60. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
Granted that it's for the earlier, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
larger pieces of Moorcroft where the big money is spent, but, you know. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
If someone was looking to start a collection, say, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
or they wanted to weigh in at the affordable level, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
you don't have to start buying everything at top money. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
I think we would probably have to put a matched pair, maybe. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
I think they are slightly different, but they are hand-made, aren't they? | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
You're going to have some natural discrepancy | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
in form and decoration which is part of the appeal, really. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
So I am going to suggest to you that we will put these in with | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
a bit of a come-and-get-me estimate, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
100 to 150, how do you feel about that? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
I know it's a long time since you bought them and you may be want a better return. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
But we have had the use of them in that time and enjoyed them. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
That is the way to look at it, really. Perfect. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
What is the money for? Are you going to replace them with more Moorcroft | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
or are you going to go off on another collecting tangent? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
-We have got a Fifth Wheel so we are probably... -A Fifth Wheel? | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
-Yes, it is a kind of caravan. -Oh, I thought it was a condition! -No! | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
It is an articulated vehicle that goes on the back of a truck bed. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
-Very easy to use. -Let's have a look. -That will give you an idea. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
-Yes, you're right, there is you and your husband? -Yes. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
So, do you stay in this country or do you go abroad at all? | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
We went abroad last year but this year we are staying in this country. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
Hey, look, with the weather like this, who can blame you? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
This is ideal, isn't it? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
Well, listen, 100 to 150, let's hope we can get you top estimate, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
a bit of cash to put towards your holiday. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
-I look forward to seeing you at the auction. -Fingers crossed. -Cheers. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
So, 100 to 150, did you get that right? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
Later, we will find out if they make more as they go under the hammer | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
but now, we are back on deck with Michael. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
Martina, thank you for bringing this beautiful lady today. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
What can you tell me about it? | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
Well, Michael, I actually inherited her from my godparents | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
together with 16 other ivory or - | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
-well, we were hoping that it's ivory - items. -Right. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
So you don't know yet whether it's ivory | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
-or whether it's resin or plastic? -No. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
My godfather always assured me that it was ivory, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
but we had friends around, and they literally said that they | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
couldn't see a grain, so they were assuming it was resin. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
Right. That brings up a few interesting points. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
The first is that there are so many copies of ivory | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
in resin, in plastic, in bone. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
Bone's quite easy to tell, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
because you'll get little black flecks from the vesicles that show through. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
The plastic forgeries can be much more cunning. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
They often have the same density and feel as ivory. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
We must just say that this is old ivory, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
not anything that was made in the 20th century. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
Ivory can only be sold if it was made before 1947. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
This piece certainly was. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
This figure would date to about 1870, 1880, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
but if we look at the figure in detail, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
it's quite difficult to tell, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:15 | |
but if you look here by the shoulder - | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
I'm naturally drawn to that area, I don't know why - | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
you can see a little bit of grain in it, and if we just move it, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
there is slight flexing and a depth to it | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
which you don't get with plastic cos it's all surface decoration | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
and patination with plastic. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
It's on this ivory base. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
I think this ivory base is a bit later, actually. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
It's a slightly different colour. Ivory tends to age in the atmosphere, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
and it can go quite yellow and get a very rich tone to it. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
I think this is a figure of Diana the Huntress, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
-because we've got her quiver. -Hmm-mm. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
We've got her faithful hunting dog | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
and then we have her holding her kill, the boar's head. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
That's a very Teutonic emblem. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
You wouldn't expect to see her with a boar's head in France, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
but in a German carving, that's absolutely fine. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
She's nicely done. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
I wouldn't say she's the very finest quality ivory I've seen, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
but very nicely done, and German rather than the French Dieppe carving. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
Nice figure. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
It always helps to have a naked lady when you're selling and ivory. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
-Any idea of the value? -Absolutely none. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
I think we need to be sensible with it, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
just because she's holding the dead boar's head. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
That might just put a few people off | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
-that like the more Art Deco graceful figures. -Yes. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
Let's say £400-£600. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
Let's put a fixed reserve of, say, £400 on it | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
and see how it goes. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
But it is a well carved late 19th-century figure, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
and it deserves to make all of that, if not a little bit more. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
-Are you happy to put it into the auction? -I am, yes. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
Because she's only in a box at the moment. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
Well, get her out of the box and on display | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
and in front of some admiring eyes, I hope. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
-They would appreciate it more. -I certainly do. -Thank you. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
Thank you very much for bringing it in. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
In Roman mythology, Diana was the goddess of the hunt | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
and of the moon, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:19 | |
and it looks like Michael will join the masses who worship her. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
Will's back on shore now, but is he in trouble? | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
Steve, you're making me a bit nervous in your uniform. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
I know my valuations can be a bit out sometimes, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
but as far as I'm aware, that's not an arrestable offence, is it? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
-No, I don't think so. -I'm in the clear, then. -Should be all right. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
But look what you've brought along today. These are great fun. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
Do you wear these? Are they from your own collection? | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
No. My mother gave them to me a few years ago, and she got them | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
off her father, who was in the Royal Navy, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
so I don't know how he came to be in possession of them. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
Right, OK. They're a lovely little pair of cufflinks. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
When I first saw them, I thought, these are some nice gold cufflinks | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
with enamelled pictures of the Titanic, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
-but having had a closer look at them, they're not gold, are they? -No. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
They are base metal, so we'd have to call them sort of gilt metal. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
The centenary has only recently passed, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
so the sort of thing that we want to see on Flog It! | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
You tell me that your grandfather was in the Royal Navy. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
-In the Royal Navy, yes. -So do you think that they probably came from him, then, originally? | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
Yes, I have talked to people about these. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Why would they be making souvenirs earlier than 100 years? | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
If my grandfather had them, they've got to be at least 50 years old. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
-Yes. -So, unless they were a bicentenary thing. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
Otherwise, I was thinking, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:35 | |
maybe they were issued to the crews | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
for cufflinks themselves, or something. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
I think they're possibly commemorative | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
-rather than being on board at the time, shall we say. -Hmm-mm. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
Because, even at the time, the Titanic was causing quite a stir. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
So I think there was a market for Titanic-related memorabilia | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
even then. Obviously, you've got your short sleeves on today. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
I've rolled my sleeves up because of the weather. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
It's kind of redundant in how you dress nowadays. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
-Not really a cufflink man? -No, not really. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
Well, there are enough people out there who are obsessed - | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
- and that is the word for it - with the Titanic memorabilia. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
I think we'll find a new buyer for these who is either going to wear them | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
or they're going to be part of their Titanic memorabilia collection. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
My valuation would be - | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
and I'm aware that you've got your handcuffs | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
and your scary baton - my valuation is going to be sort of around the £50 mark, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
sort of £40-£60. How do you feel about that? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
-That would be fine, yes. -Yes, you'd be happy with that? -Yes. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Well, thanks for coming off duty and seeing us. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
Shake you by the hand, and see you at the saleroom. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
-Absolutely. -You don't have to come in uniform. -Thank you. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
What a fabulous valuation day we've had here on HMS Warrior, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
and particularly in Portsmouth Harbour. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
But sadly, it's time for us to say goodbye, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
as we get landlocked now into the auction room in Winchester. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Here's the booty that we're taking with us. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Will's estimate was £100-£150, but we all know Moorcroft can make more. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
Will this sale cause jaws to drop at auction? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
Or will it be the ivory figure that combines beauty and the beast? | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
There are thousands of Titanic fans in the country. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Will they set sail to bid on these cufflinks? | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
It's back to the saleroom now, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
where it's light, camera, auction for the last time today. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
Good luck with these cufflinks. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
It would be really nice to think that they could be the Titanic. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
-I am pretty sure they are. -Well, I think it is the Titanic. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
You've got the four funnels, you see, and on the Titanic, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
you had three funnels for the steam and one for show. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
So, the four funnels on these, I am pretty sure... | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
Which could add to that £40-£60 value, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
it could bring it up a bit, couldn't it? | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
Well, these Titanic collectors are avid collectors. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
-Now, I gather all the money is going towards a pram. -Yes. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
-So tell me about this pram. Who's it for? -For my daughter. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
She's 24 and she's expecting her first child in November. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
-So you're going to be a grandad? -Yes, first time. -How exciting! | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
Let's find out what the cufflinks do. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
They're going under the hammer now. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
A pair of metal cufflinks with enamel pictures, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
possibly the Titanic, lot 245. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
Start me at £50. £50? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
40? £40, surely. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
-30, if you like. -Come on! They're worth that! | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
32, 35, 37. 40. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
Well done. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:30 | |
45. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
At £42 and selling. Is there 5? | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
45. 47. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
Good. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:37 | |
At £45, seated at the front here. At £45, are you all done? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
At £45, last time. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
It looks like we are selling at 45. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
-Yes, the hammer's gone down. -There you go. -Good estimate. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
-Very good. -Glad to see them away. -But they've gone. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
They've gone, and that's the end of them, yeah. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
-Little bit of money towards the pushchair. -Yes, we might get a wheel out of that! | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
Did it go to a collector of Titanic memorabilia? | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
We found out who bought it and why. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
I'm interested, because my grandfather worked for the Cunard Line for 50 years, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
so I collect a few bits related to ships and things | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
because they interest me. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:13 | |
Our history being preserved by young collectors like Alex. Good work! | 0:40:13 | 0:40:20 | |
Now, will this be one of those Moorcroft moments? | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
Why are you selling the vases? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Well, we came down, because it was on the Warrior as well, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
and it was a beautiful day... | 0:40:28 | 0:40:29 | |
-It was stunning. -And we thought it would be a lovely experience. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
A good day out. But you get to see how Flog It! is put together and made. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
-And that was really interesting. -Were you've impressed? | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
-I was, and everybody was so nice. -We look after everybody, we really do. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
-What are we looking for, Will? -I think I said about £100 for the pair. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
I think they've got to be worth that. A pair of Moorcroft vases. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
-Yes, one of the best names in ceramics. -Exactly. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
-Fingers crossed. -Fingers crossed. -No pressure. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
Lot 580, there is a pair of Moorcroft spot vases. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
We have a commissioned bid. I'll start the bidding at £100. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
-Straight in. -There we go. -Oh, good. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
110, 120, 130. Commissioned bid's out. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
130 in the room. It there 140? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
140, 150. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
160. 170, 180, 190, 200. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
-It's going. Well, it is a pair, isn't it? Let's face it. -Yeah. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
At £190, then, if you're all done, very last time... | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
Yes! How about that? We are happy with that. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
So that will get the food for the week, won't it? | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
-Or something like that. -Yes. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
-Who are you going with? -My husband. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
-Is he here today? -Yes, yes, he's there. -There he is. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
-He's pleased. -Very pleased. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
It just shows you, even with popular pieces like Moorcroft, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
you can never tell what they will make on the day. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
An excellent sale. And finally, we end with a goddess. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
Good luck, Martina, with the ivory figure. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
Why have you picked this one out to sell, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
because you've still got another 15 or so at home? | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
What was it about this one that you brought to Michael? | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
She just stood out very much, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:03 | |
and she was actually one of my godfather's favourites. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
-He was very much into hunting. -And it's Diana the Huntress. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
So, classical figure. It's really, really nice. I like this. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
It's beautifully carved. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:15 | |
It's typically late 19th in style | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
and the modelling of the features. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
Let's find out what this auction room thinks. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
There's a lot of bidders. Here we go. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
Lot 105, the carved ivory classical figure of the huntress and hound. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:31 | |
One, two, three, four commissioned bids here. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
Fantastic! Fantastic! | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
Straight in at £700. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
Yes! £700! | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
At £700 and selling. Is there 20? | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
-At £700. -Straight in at £700. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
At £700, are you all done? | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
At £700, commissioned bid, for the very last time... | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
Well, I never. Three commissioned bids, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
straight in on the highest one, £700. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Has that changed your mind about the rest of the collection? | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
If they're all worth somewhere around that region, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
you're in for a lot of money. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
-I think I need Michael's advice on the rest. -Take Michael's advice. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
Slowly, slowly, but, yes, sell them. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
We've come to the end of our day, and I tell you what, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
you can never guarantee what's going to happen in an auction room. That is the beauty of them. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:23 | |
If you fancy having a go yourself, if you've got any unwanted antiques and collectables, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
we would love to see you. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:28 | |
Bring them along to one of our valuation days. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
As you can see, it's not just about antiques and collectables. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
It can be about gypsy caravans and garden furniture. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
If you've got it, we would love to sell it. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
Details are on our BBC website, and if you don't have a computer, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
check the details in your local press, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
because we're coming to a town very near you soon. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
Until then, from Hampshire, it's goodbye from all of us. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
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