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Today's show comes from Surrey, but can you guess where we are? | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
The town behind me is home to 135,000 people. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
It was also once home to Lewis Carroll. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
And today, for one day only, it's home to "Flog It!" | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Can you guess? Well, you got 20 seconds to work it out. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
Roll the titles. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
Today's valuations are taking place in Guildford - | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
the most populated district in Surrey. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
And a town that dates back to Saxon times. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
But today's venue is much more modern. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
The cathedral overlooking the town was opened to the | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
public in 1961 and has been welcoming worshippers ever since. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
We have a very healthy congregation here today. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
And I know a lot of these people will be hoping | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
the angels will be looking down on them. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
Especially if their items have been chosen to go through to auction, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
where they could be worth a small fortune. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
Somebody in this crowd has got something that's worth | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
a great deal of money. It's our job to find it. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
So let's get on with it. Are you ready to go in? | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
-ALL: Yes! -Come on then. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
Delivering the valuation sermons today are our experts. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
We've got James Lewis and Mark Stacey, and they are already | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
fighting over something they've spotted in the queue. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
-He doesn't like me. -Of course he does. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
He wants to touch the Welshman. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:38 | |
No, he just smells old meat on you. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
Excuse me! | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
So, as the crowd take their seats, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
here's what's coming up in the next 45 minutes. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
Today we are travelling the world. We've got this vase from Persia. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
This walking cane from Japan. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
And this music box from Switzerland. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
Plus, I will be exploring the story of Marianne North, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
who travelled far and wide to paint unusual and exotic plants. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
Now that everybody is safely seated inside, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
the first port of call is our off-screen experts | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
who are based here, because they have to assess, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
analyse and appraise every single item that goes through to auction. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
Let's catch up with our experts | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
and see what they are waxing lyrical about. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
Margaret, I have to tell you that I was not expecting to find | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
a big lump of Persian silver here in Guildford today. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
I looked at it and I thought, am I tired? | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
Have I had too much wine for lunch? | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
But no, it is slightly wonky, isn't it? | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
It is very much on the skew, yes. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Have you fallen out with somebody and hit them over the head with it? | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
-No, I just dropped it. Many years ago. -Did you actually drop it? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
I dropped it, many years ago. But I did. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
And it's been in the loft ever since. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Of course, Persia now, the majority of Persia is Iran. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Persian silver isn't common to find here. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
So you must have an interesting story about how you came by it. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
It's not that interesting. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
My father had a customer who was Persian, as we called them then. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
And when he came over to visit my father, he brought it as a gift. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
That's not a bad thing for a customer to be giving. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
What did your father do? | 0:03:19 | 0:03:20 | |
He was an importer/exporter of oriental carpets. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
-Ah! OK. So he was dealing with a lot of Persians? -Mm-hmm. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
Lovely. But they are wonderful pieces of art. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
I think they're beautiful and they are wonderful to be seen made. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-Yeah. -You know, the noise, the cacophony of noise... | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
Have you been out there? | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
-Yes, I have. -Go on, tell me about your trips there. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
I went when I was about 20, for the first time. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
And I went back about five, six, seven years ago. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Because I thought, I must go back and see the same. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
-And I thought, well, I would like some more silver. -Yep. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
But unfortunately, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
when I went back I found that it's all European-type now. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
-They don't do any of this. You couldn't find them... -Really? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
Yeah, you couldn't find it at all. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
And it was very disappointing, actually. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Do you know, I think it's a little bit like the Chinese market, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
in a strange sort of way. When the Ayatollahs took over, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
in the same way as when Chairman Mao was in charge in China, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
looking back, in China, to the imperial past | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
and I suppose in Iran their similar royal past, in China, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:33 | |
if you were caught with imperial silver or imperial bronze, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
-you could actually be executed. -Oh, yes. Yes. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
And in Tehran in Iran, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
people were burying things in their back gardens left, right and centre. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
And this is the sort of thing that they were burying. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
I can see traces of black here. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
It was all black when I started cleaning it, yes. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
And it was actually quite a torturous thing to do. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
Somebody has got to spend some more hours on it. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
Yeah, it needs a bit of work. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
But let's have a look at what we're dealing with here. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
Because, when you're looking at Persian silver, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
I always feel that it takes its influence from all over the world. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
-There was an awful lot of trading between Persia and China. -Mm-hmm. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
-And here we have a dragon. -Yes. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
Almost certainly influenced from the Chinese. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
-There's another one there. -Two dragons. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
And where we have engraving and chasing on a smooth ground there, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:34 | |
we have a much more Islamic-style reserve. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
And much more Islamic influence in its design. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
The handles have no resemblance to Chinese. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
But again, they go back to the Islamic influence. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
So it's a really interesting piece of silver. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
Um...date... | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
-About 1880, I should think. -You think it's as old as that? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:03 | |
I think so. 1888-1890. We've got a silver mark here. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
And I can't read it. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
-Don't ask me. -It's not because it's too small, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
it's just that I don't know what it means. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
But I know a chap who does, so I could find out for us. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
Preliminary estimate, even bent over like that, 300-500. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
But I think it should make a bit more with a following wind. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-Lovely. -But I like it very much. -Thank you. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you so much for bringing it. -Thank you. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-My pleasure. -It's a good thing. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
Hopefully the bidders will see past the damage, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
and the silver vase will shine at auction. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
Over to Mark Stacey now, who's found something unusual. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
What a delightful item you've brought in, Annie. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-But you don't like it. -No. -Why not? | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
Because it just looks like it's a whole lot of little dead | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
bodies attached to a stick. So I don't like it, no. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
I spotted you sitting in the cathedral here | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
and went straight over to it. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
Cos I only saw the head of it, actually. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
And I recognised straightaway that it was Japanese. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Carved with those almost thousand faces, little Noh masks, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
as they're called. They are charmingly carved. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
It's obviously been loved cos a lot of them are worn. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
It's been a favourite walking cane for somebody. Over many years. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
It fits into a period we call the Meiji period. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
And I think this would date to around about 1900. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
So it's 100-odd years old. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-Mm. -It's carved ivory at the top. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
And you have white metal on the tip and around the collar. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
-It's probably silver but it won't be to an English standard. -No, no. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
Which is why we generally refer to it as white metal. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
But the other thing that I just absolutely love, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
if we just look at the shaft, it's bamboo. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
And the carver has rather humorously carved this snake motif. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:59 | |
The snake is heading towards a little toad. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-And he's also signed it here. -Yes, I saw that. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
This is a little Japanese signature. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
And I think it's absolutely wonderful. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
It's not in perfect condition. There's a few splits to the ivory | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
and there's a couple of splits to the bamboo. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
-Yeah. -But this is a real collector's item. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
-Have you ever thought of a value? -I have no idea what it could be worth. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:26 | |
So if I said it was worth £50 would you be disappointed? | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
I have to be honest, I wouldn't be disappointed at all. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
Well, I'm not going to say that. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
I think, actually, there's going to be a lot of buyers for this. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
A lot of collectors. Walking canes are very, very highly sought after. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
-And I think this would have an estimate of around 200-300. -Really? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
And it might even make more. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
Yeah, so I better tell my husband what I'm doing, hadn't I? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
-Does he know you've brought it? -No. -Oh, dear. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
-No, but he likes it and I don't. -Oh. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Could you persuade him it'll be all right? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
It might take a few glasses of wine tonight. What do you think? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
-I have every confidence in you. -Mmm. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
I think you could be very persuasive if you want to be. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
-Are you happy to put it into the auction? -Absolutely. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
-And we'll put a reserve on it. -Yeah. -Of £200 fixed. -OK. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
So we won't sell it below 200, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:21 | |
because it is such a charming object. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
-Well, thank you. -It's making me smile all the time I see it. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-I'm glad that you like it. -I adore it. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
Remember, there are strict rules on selling ivory, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
but that cane is fine because it dates well before 1947. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Even after 12 years of doing "Flog It!" we never know what will | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
come through the doors. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
And during a break in the filming, a guy called David arrived with | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
something that could be very special. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
-What can you tell me about this? -I can tell you it's Turner. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
-I got it off a dealer who had it for several years. -Is it signed? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:59 | |
I've no idea. I haven't seen it. I only have the paperwork. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
How did you come by this? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
I look after an art dealer who's got three of these Turner paintings. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
Over the years I've looked after him, lent him money all the time. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
He just came up to me last week and said, "It's yours. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
"It'll sort out everything I owe you." | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
-Is this something you're thinking of selling? -Without a doubt. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
I'm a working class guy. That in my home wouldn't look correct. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
I don't know what to say really. My gut feeling is it looks right. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
And it feels right. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
Can I show this to a colleague and get a second opinion? | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
-Course you can. -Can you take a seat here? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
Of course I can, yeah. You want that with it? | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Yes, please, yeah. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:40 | |
Gosh, it's not every day we come across a... | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
a watercolour by Turner. One of our greatest painters. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Is it right or isn't it right? I don't know. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
Who can I ask? I know. I'm going to ask Anthony. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
He's our fine art expert. Where is he? | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
Anthony is one of our off-screen valuers. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
And he's right here. So... | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Anthony. Do you mind if I be really rude and butt in? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Can you have a quick look at that? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:09 | |
It's all on the back. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
I mean, they've got "Joseph Mallord William Turner" on here | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
but it's not by Turner, in my view. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Oh, it's in Andrew Wilton's catalogue. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
-Andrew Wilton is THE world authority on Turner. -Right. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
-Nobody will argue with him. -OK. -Whatever he says goes. -Is right. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
So that's right? | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
I think it is. If it's in his catalogue then it is. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
I would have thought 25,000-30,000 would be a reasonable | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
estimate at auction. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
-OK. -One needs to study it much longer to make... -Sure. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
You just heard what Anthony said there. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
It does need a bit more research. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
Thing is, we mustn't get carried away at this stage. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
My gut feeling is that it looks right. It feels right at the front. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
But on the back, all of this is just a bit too clean, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
a bit too new, a bit too positive. All the information is there. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
That's the kind of thing that puts me off it. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
And you can find out | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
if that painting is real or not later on in the programme. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
Let's hope it's good news for David. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Time to see what other treasures are waiting to be found. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Back to James Lewis. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
Lisa and Marion, let me take you back to the mid-19th century, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
before the days of TV, before even "Flog It!" had started. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
No radio, where the | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
only music you could actually entertain yourself with, unless | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
someone was playing the piano or a violin, was something like this. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
Mechanical music started really in the late 18th century. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
By the 19th century it was in full flight. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
The best musical boxes are made in Switzerland. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
-And this one is actually a Swiss one. -Ooh. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
But it's having said the best were made in Switzerland, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
almost all of them were made in Switzerland. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Also the also-rans as well. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Swiss family or something that has been imported locally? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
No, it's a family heirloom. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
-It was my great, great uncle's. -OK. Was this on your side of the family? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
Yes, it was on my father's side of the family. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
OK, let's look outside first. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
The panel and the top here is, I think, papier mache. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:33 | |
It's quite difficult to tell without seeing the reverse side of it. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
And it's, of course, set into wood. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
The majority of these musical boxes are ebony in border, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
normally have a rosewood panel in the centre, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
with a little arrangement of musical achievements in the middle. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
I've never seen one with a mother of pearl inlaid | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
lacquer panel before. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
But if we look at the little figures there, they are Chinese men. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
Stereotypical Chinamen. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
But very strangely, in an English or European landscape. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
Already we've got a complete mix of styles. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Let's open it up. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:12 | |
There we are. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:15 | |
We got the airs here. Ten airs. Ten musical tunes. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
Whenever you are looking at a musical box, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
the more tunes the better. And ten is quite a good number. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Then you also look at how complicated it is. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Does it play on bells, on drums, on cymbals? | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
This one has bells, playing on three bells. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
No drums. But a short cylinder. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
The shorter cylinders are normally the cheaper boxes. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Let me open it up. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
We can see a steel comb here. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
And that steel comb, it's important that it is in good condition. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
Because every little steel tooth that is damaged | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
is about £15-£20 to repair. So it soon starts to add up. There we go. | 0:14:54 | 0:15:00 | |
It's not a bad quality box. But it's not great. Do you play it regularly? | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
-Not regularly, no. -Not regularly. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
We go through stages where we get it out and wants to listen to it again. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
Then it goes back for safekeeping. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
When it first came, we were fascinated by it. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
And it was in very poor condition. My dad spent ages cleaning it. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
I don't think we could even tell that the butterflies were coloured. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Oh, really?! | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
-And he painstakingly cleaned it up for us. -He's done a great job. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
Really good job. OK. It will end up going to a collector, I'm sure. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
-I hope so. -Good. -Value, I should think it's going to make £200-£300. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:40 | |
Something like that. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
-It's in working order I presume, is it? -BOTH: Yes! | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Are you happy to let it go? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
Because once this starts you've got no choice. Here we go then. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
What a day we're having. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
Everybody is thoroughly enjoying themselves. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
And our experts have made a cracking start. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
They have found the first items to take off to auction. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
It's time to put those valuations to the test. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
But before we do that, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
here's a quick reminder of what we are taking with us. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
There is the leaning vase of Persia. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
We've got the intricate Japanese walking cane. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
And let's hope the music box hits the high notes in the auction room. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
We've travelled from Surrey to the West Sussex town of Washington, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
where we are hoping our items will do well for our sellers. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
In charge of today's proceedings is auctioneer Rupert Toovey, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
who looks like he's ready to go. First up, it's that music box. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
Will it sell, that's what we want to know. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-You're looking really doubtful! -Yeah. I am slightly doubtful. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
I want this to sell, I really want it to sell. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
But I am slightly doubtful. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:02 | |
I brought the bag just in case it doesn't. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:17:05 | 0:17:06 | |
-It's a big bag. -Got the shopping trolley. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
-THEY LAUGH -I hope it goes. I really do. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
A late 19th-century Swiss musical box, playing ten airs. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
Lovely thing there. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Bids to match. We are opening at £250. 250 here. Can I see the 280? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
£250. 280 can I see? 280. 300. 320. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
£300 I have here with the book. At £300. Is there any advance on 300? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:33 | |
£300. 300. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Yes, the hammer has gone down! £300. Top end of the estimate. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
-There you go, your record is safe. -Ye of little faith. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
James is top of the pops. Well done. Thank you for bringing that in. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
-That's very good. -Gosh, I was worried. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
'It turns out my reservations were wrong and Marion | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
'and Lisa are going home with smiles on their faces. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
'Talking of faces, the walking cane is up next.' | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-So you don't like it. And your husband does. -Mm-hmm. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
So you basically won, you're not giving it house room. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
How did you get around that? | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
We had a little conversation about it. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Does this happen often? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
Um... | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
-Probably, yes. I think women normally win. -They do, they do. Yes. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
Yes. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
This could fly away. I haven't seen such a nice one for a long time. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
-No, you see, I found the faces full of character. -So did I. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Each one is different. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
And there is just something very, very interesting about it. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
Let's put it to the test. It's going under the hammer now. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
Japanese ivory and bamboo walking cane, Meiji period. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
We are opening the bidding here on the books at £180. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
180 here. Can I see the 190? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
-180. -I think it'll get 200. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
-£180. 190. 200. 220. -200. -No? 200 it is here with the book. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:55 | |
At £200. Can I see the 220? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
At £200. Is there are any advance? £200. Selling now. £200. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
-Well, it's sold. -I'm so surprised. -I'm quite surprised as well. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
But you were right with the valuation. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Well, the estimate was right, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
but I really thought that might go certainly mid or even top. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
I thought the cluster of faces on the top would really help | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
sell that but it clearly didn't. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Yet another reminder that you cannot predict what will | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
happen at an auction. But Annie is going home happy. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Time to see if the damaged silver vase will attract the buyers. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
It looks like a trophy. But I know it's not. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
It isn't, it's a vase, silver vase. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
-And Persia, obviously the old Iran. -Iran, Yep. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
-And this is from what is now Tehran. -That's right. -Wow. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
This is the beauty of the internet, really. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
Buyers can find this from all over the world | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
and hopefully this will be going back to Tehran for big bucks. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
-All for you. -Oh, I hope so! THEY LAUGH | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
That's what it's all about. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Let's find out what the auctioneer thinks. Here we go. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
Let's hand the proceedings over to Rupert. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
Persian silver two-handled vase. Early 20th century. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
It's a beautiful object. Lovely size as well. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
We are opening the bidding here at £300. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
£300. Can I see 320? 350. 380. 400. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
420. 420 now in the room. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
420 now. Can I see the 450? £420. Can I see the 450? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
450. 480. 500. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
500! | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
-500. 550, Tom. 600. -Sorry? -600. -600, sir. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
600. 650. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:27 | |
-700. -Would you like to go 700? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
At £700 now on the phone. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
At £700 now on the phone, against you all. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
£700. Is there any advance at £700? Fair warning. 700. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:42 | |
BANGS GAVEL | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
The hammer's gone down. You'll take that, won't you, £700? | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
-Absolutely. -That'll help you out. -That's fantastic! | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Not bad for a vase with a dent. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Not bad indeed, James. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
There you are, that concludes our first visit to the auction room. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
It was a little bit touch and go in places. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
But hey, that's auctions for you. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
You can never predict what's going to happen. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
Earlier on I took a trip to Kew Gardens, just outside of London, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
to take a look at some work by an artist from this part of the world. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
Take a look at this. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
The Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew houses one of the most famous | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
collections of plants in the world. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
And it attracts well over one million visitors each year. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
The curvaceous lines and perfect symmetry of Kew's Palm House, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
designed by architect Decimus Burton, has long been | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
an instantly recognisable icon here at the gardens. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
And quite rightly so. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
But today I've come here to explore a much more modest building, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
one that I believe to be a hidden gem. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
And there it is, look, a Victorian pavilion. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
The Marianne North Gallery, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
tucked demurely away on the corner of the east side of the gardens. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
The question is, who was Marianne North? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
She was born in 1830 in Hastings, which is | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
just a short distance from today's auction. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Her parents were wealthy | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
and she travelled abroad with her father, who was an MP. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
That wanderlust combined with the love of exotic plants, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
which she had seen here at Kew, would shape the rest of her life. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
At the age of 40 she began her astonishing trips around the world. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
She was very close to her father, and when he died in 1869, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
she decided to travel as a way of filling up her life | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
and learning to live without him. And boy, did she globe trot! | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Between the years of 1871 and 1885, she visited | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
America, Canada, Jamaica, Brazil, Tenerife, Japan, Singapore, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:46 | |
Sarawak, Java, Sri Lanka, India, Australia, New Zealand, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
South Africa, the Seychelles and Chile. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Everywhere she went, she would paint. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
In total, she brought back 832 paintings. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
A snapshot of the world's flora and fauna in situ. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
She really was unlike most women of the Victorian era. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
She shunned marriage | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
and travelled the world to follow her artistic passion. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
I can't wait to see inside now the restoration is complete. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
'I'm meeting up with author Laura Ponsonby, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
'who has written a biography about Marianne. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
'And we are going to take a closer look at her work.' | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
-I'll get the door for you. -Thank you very much. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
Come in. Come in and have a look. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
-Gosh! -Isn't it amazing? -It's very overwhelming. It's full of colour. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
-Have you ever seen anything like it before? -No, I haven't. I have not. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
And I tell you something, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
my first feeling is there is not an inch of wall space. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
I think you are more or less right. And everybody who comes in goes, wow! | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
I never knew this was here. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
First thoughts when you actually focus on the artwork, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
they don't look like the sort of | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
botanical, scientific paintings you would expect. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
-You know, the ones done in watercolour. -Yes. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
-No, they are not that at all. You see, they are oils. -And very rich. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Oil on paper. And she absolutely adored colour. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
She started painting in oils when she was in her 30s. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Before that time, she painted in watercolour. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
-Her basic thing was to show a plant in its habitat. -It is in situ, yes. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
That's exactly how you'd expect to see it, isn't it, really? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
It's a snapshot. It's a little photograph. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
-Where is this? I think I've been there. -Yes, you have. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
-That's in Sri Lanka. -Yeah, I have been there. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
That's in the Kandy Botanic Garden. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
And this is, in fact, a jackfruit tree. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
And, like Kew, it's got a river going round it as well. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Just look at the work! You can see the countries where she's been. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
Australia. You can see Jamaica, America. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
-She was an adventurous, tough woman. -She was an adventurous, tough woman. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
But she spent months in some countries without servants, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
without any help. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
She did. In India, for instance, she spent nearly 15 months, I suppose. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
She had letters of introduction. She knew someone... | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Sure, and her father was well-connected. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Yes, you are absolutely right. So she went all over the place. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
What does it tell you about her, really? | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
That she was really determined? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:10 | |
She was determined, she was very adventurous | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
and wanted her own way, I think. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
-The sort of lady you'd love to meet, I bet. -Yes, I would like to. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
I think she was amusing. She could be quite difficult sometimes, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
but a good sense of humour. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
And had known a lot of interesting people. Very determined. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
She showed that determination when she convinced | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
the director of Kew to allow her to build this gallery in the grounds. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Not only did she pay for it, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
but she took a year away from painting to arrange the pictures. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
It's probably a daft question, but do you have a favourite? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
Well, I mean, there is | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
one in the little annexe at the back that I really like. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
-And it's interesting too. -OK. -Yes. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
You know, it's not just scientific detail. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
As you walk past some of these images, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:57 | |
you can see little river snakes and the eyes of crocodiles | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
poking their heads above the surface of the water. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Which you can easily miss, but they are there. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Anyway, it's in here. It's just in the corner. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
This one. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:11 | |
It's a plant which is called Northia. It actually named after Marianne. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
The first name, the genus name. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
She did it when she was in the Seychelles. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
-It's a lovely image, isn't it? -Yes, it is nice. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
-You can see it's got a little bird in it. -Yes, I've just spotted that. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
A couple of fruits. I think she brought that back... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
You have to look hard, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:28 | |
cos some of these little animals are camouflaged. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
Yes, she hides them away. It's quite interesting, isn't it? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Suddenly you see a monkey or a bird, or something of that nature. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
How would you sum up Marianne's legacy? | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
I think it's unique, really. I don't think there is anybody else | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
who has done anything quite like that. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
And of course, it's so interesting where she has been | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
and all her experiences, and I think people enjoy that, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
looking at the places perhaps they've been to on holiday | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
and they come and see what Marianne painted. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
-It's very interesting. -I think so. It's most fascinating. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
I think this place is well worth a visit. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
I'm going to come and spend a few more hours in here. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
-Yes, you certainly could. -Thank you so much for showing me around... | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
-Not at all. -..and being my guide today. -Good. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
'Marianne often ventured to places | 0:27:14 | 0:27:15 | |
'that were virtually unknown to Europeans. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
'And some of her paintings show plants that were new to science. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
'Helping to advance our knowledge of the natural world. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
'But the years of exhausting travel took their toll, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
'and she retired to Gloucestershire, still surrounded by flowers. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
'She died there in 1890, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
'a long way from the exotic locations that she loved.' | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Marianne North, the intrepid traveller, has provided us | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
with an exquisite Victorian set piece, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
tucked away in this corner of Kew Gardens. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
And inside, the most extraordinary collection of botanical paintings. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
Although not classical, are all the richer for it. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
I think we can safely say Marianne North | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
and her gallery are definitely one-offs. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
We are back at the valuation day in Guildford. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
In just a few minutes we'll have an update on the painting | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
that could be a Turner. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:20 | |
But before that, let's find some final items to take off to auction. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
Over to Mark Stacey. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
-Jane, this is a heck of lump, isn't it? -It certainly is. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
Tell me the history of it, please. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
I think my mother bought it from an auction house back in the '50s. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
I remember it a long, long time. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
She used to keep it in the cloakroom, full of umbrellas and walking sticks. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
-Wow! Well, it's big enough for that, isn't it? -It is. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
-In the '50s, I suppose, this was considered out of fashion. -Yes. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
People wanted the more modern designs, you know, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
the straight lines and things. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
But as soon as we see this type of pottery, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
with this very distinctive pink-y interior and these lovely | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
subtle colours, there is only one factory you think of, really. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
-Yes. -Poole Pottery. -Absolutely. -Based in Dorset. -Yes. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
It's beautifully decorated with these stylised flowers. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
-Such a lovely range of colours in there. -It's a nice shape. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
It would take quite a lot to fire this. A big lump like this. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
If we have a look underneath... | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
we've got a lovely set of marks there. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
We've got the marks for Carter, Stabler, Adams - Poole. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:30 | |
-Which is the early mark, the 1920s-30s mark. -Yes. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
So that fits in. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
They kept reducing these designs and sometimes you just see them | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
-with "Poole pottery," and they are slightly later. -Later. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
But it's a really, really good piece. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
There's a little bit of damage, isn't there? | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
-Yes, there is a slight chip. -Which could easily be restored. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
Yes, that's always been there, I'm afraid. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
I think it really is a lovely object. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
-Why have you decided to sell it now? -We've got six grandchildren now. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
And they love charging around. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
It was in the lounge and we have a new rescue dog as well, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
who plays with a ball. And I thought, it's going to get smashed. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
It's such a shame if it got smashed beyond repair. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
You need the right space for it as well, don't you? Aesthetically. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
It's not going to be safe, I'm afraid. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
I must say, I must be honest with you, Jane, I think | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
a few years ago this would have been worth a lot more money. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
I think if it was absolutely perfect we would easily expect to get | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
-the £500 mark for it. -Yes. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
I think we've got to take into account the small chip on it. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
-Yeah. -And the fact that Poole isn't... -It's not as popular. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
..quite as fashionable as it was. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
-I would properly suggest an estimate of £300-£500. -Yes. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
-I'd be happy with that. -To put a reserve on it of 300. -Yes. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
-So it protects you. -No, that's fine. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
I really mean it, I love it and it's the most impressive | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
-piece of Poole I've seen for quite a long time. -Lovely, thank you. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Thanks for bringing it in. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
An eye-catching piece of pottery there. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Now back to James, who has found an important | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
and impressive collection of militaria. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
Jimmy, I have to say, we see loads of medals on "Flog It!" | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
Every valuation day, maybe ten or 15 groups. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
But they are normally these three. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
They are named after three cartoon | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
characters in the First World War - Pip, Squeak and Wilfred. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
But this one, the Military Cross, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
it's the first time I've ever seen it on "Flog It!" | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
-That's a good thing. Are they family medals? -No. No. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
How did you come to get them? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
My wife had a small shop, antiques shop, for about 20 years. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
She passed away seven years ago and obviously bits | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
and pieces used to come into the house. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
-Yeah. -And get left behind. And that's how I've come to get this. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
She always there wasn't quite sure what they were worth | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
-and wanted to make sure. -No. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
Who was it that won these? Do you know much about him? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
Only what I read of the little bit of history. This is his identity card. | 0:31:54 | 0:32:01 | |
It was James Rowland West. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
-He was in the Berkshire Regiment. -OK. -First of all. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
After that he was in the Dorset Territorial Army. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:13 | |
Interesting. OK. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
Well, the first thing we need to know whenever we are looking | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
at a Military Cross is, why did he win it? What did he do? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
Cos that's part of the story. You got a photograph of him. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
You've got some papers to do with him. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
You've got the miniatures, you've got the medals. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
But what's the story? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
I have to say, I'm not great with technology. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
I was afraid I was going to drop it so I have my own helper, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
my own Debbie McGee here. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
Thank you very much, Debbie. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
This is a supplement to the London Gazette, 18th July, 1918. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:48 | |
"Captain James Rowland West, Royal Berkshire Regiment. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
"For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty in an attack. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
"He moved about fearlessly among his company, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
"controlling and supervising their advance. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
"And when a platoon was losing direction, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
"he crossed a fire swept zone to redirect them. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
"He took command of another company, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
"which had lost all of its officers, in addition to his own, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
"and showed splendid leadership and courage throughout." | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
-So, a very brave man. -Wonderful. -And a very skilled soldier as well. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
Thank you. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
So there we go. And that, knowing the story puts it in perspective. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:34 | |
For a man to have that peace of mind to say, they're in trouble, I'm | 0:33:34 | 0:33:40 | |
going to risk my life, crossing all of that gunfire, to look after them. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
-And to cross back. I mean, I couldn't do it. -No. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
And I don't think very many people could. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
An incredible man. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
But then Hitler raises his head 20 years on, World War II. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
The man, I'm sure, would have liked to have been back in the Army, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
-fighting the Germans. -Sure. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
But he's too old, so he ends up in the Home Guard. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
And here we have an inquisition into the death of this man. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:13 | |
-So, what happened? -He was on a training exercise in Warminster. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
They had these aircraft, Hurricanes, coming over, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
involved in the training exercise. And killed 14 people. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
-A British Hurricane? -Yes. Yes. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
-I think there was more than one Hurricane involved. -What on earth?! | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
Did they suddenly have a rush of blood to the head | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
and think the Germans were in Warminster?! | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
Well, I think there was smoke and fog, things like that. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
They got involved... And this guy was one of them. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
-It happens so often to these great heroes, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
Lawrence of Arabia. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
-All the things he did and he ends up in a motorbike crash. -Yes. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
-Yes. -Incredible. -Yes. -It's an amazing story. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
They are a great set of medals. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
I think your wife did the right thing not just putting them | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
-in the antiques shop. I'm sure they are going to make about £1,000. -OK. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
-That's... -And I wouldn't be surprised, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
if the right people get behind it, they might make a shade more. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
-OK. Wonderful. -Auction estimate - 800 to 1,200. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
I would recommend a firm reserve of eight. Don't let them go below that. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
-No, OK. -I'm sure they will do well. -OK. Thank you very much. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
-Cheers. -Good luck. -Cheers. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
And thanks for bringing this along to "Flog It!" today | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
-and sharing a wonderful story. -OK, thank you. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
Earlier in the programme we met David, who came along to the | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
valuation day with what he believed was a painting by Turner. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
On the back was the name of an art expert - Andrew Wilton. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
We've arranged for the two of them | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
to meet at London's Dulwich Picture Gallery, where hopefully | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
we'll find out once and for all if that painting is genuine. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
-You've got a picture to show me? -I certainly have. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Thanks. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
The label refers to small paintings he did on blue paper, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
and this is on blue paper, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
-so I can see why your former owner linked it up with this series. -Yes. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:14 | |
A lot of them are views at Petworth. This is clearly not Petworth. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:20 | |
-I'm afraid it's clearly not by Turner. -Right. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
It doesn't bear any resemblance to anything that Turner ever did, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
apart from the fact that it's on blue paper. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
But, of course, a lot of artists worked on blue paper. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
What's interesting about this drawing is that it does | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
remind me of a Turner water colour. It says, "The Thames near Windsor." | 0:36:36 | 0:36:42 | |
We must be somewhere near Eton College. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
I can show you what that looks like. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
Fortunately there is a book here that reproduces both | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
the view of Windsor and the view that he did of Eton College. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
Just downstream from Windsor. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
Here is Eton College, and the Etonians on the bank, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:05 | |
reading and talking. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
Here are some local people with eel pots. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
There was a great deal of eel fishing in the Thames. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
Turner was very interested in that as well. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
Wherever he went, he was interested in what people were doing. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
When we look at this drawing, we don't see any of that interest. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
It's a very generalised evocation of a river with some trees | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
and the notion of a few people. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
Apart from the compositional parallel with this view of Eton, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:36 | |
there's not much to identify it at all. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
I hope you can see that this is a different | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
way of looking at the world from this one. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Yes, I do see the difference. And that's all I can say to you, really. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
The good thing is, you like it. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
And you can enjoy it as a picture on your wall. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
I hope it's been useful even if it hasn't | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
been as thrilling as you might have wished. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
Certainly not as thrilling, but it has been very useful. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
Feeling a bit sick. I believed it was real. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
I believed I had a little nest egg sitting there. Very disappointed. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
But God loves a trier and I shall try again. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
I'll keep going and going and going, I'm going to take it home now | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
and put it on my wall and just enjoy looking at it. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
So, it turned out that painting | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
wasn't quite what David was expecting. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
But I'm sure you'll agree it was very exciting. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Time to head off to today's auction now. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
And here's a reminder of what's going under the hammer. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
There is that huge ceramic vase. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
And that poignant collection of World War I medals. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
We are back in West Sussex, where today's auction is taking place. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
The next item up for grabs is that colourful pottery. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
Going under the hammer right now, another "Flog It!" favourite - | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
a bit of Poole pottery. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:01 | |
I remember my days when I went down to the factory | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
down in Dorset, before they closed down. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
They are now open in Stoke-on-Trent, so they are still in business. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
-But this is from the 1920s, Jane. -Yes. -A really nice piece. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
I think it was painted by a lady called Anne Hatchard as well. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
-Oh, right. I didn't know that. -Yes. -Lovely colours. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
Right, let's put this to the test. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
Carter, Stabler, Adams - Poole Pottery vase. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
1920s. Painted by Anne Hatchard, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
and monogrammed with a Truda Carter patterned YT. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
It's a wonderful thing. Little chip to the foot, but lovely. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Opening the bidding here at £220. 220 here. Can I see the 250? | 0:39:30 | 0:39:36 | |
£220 here. 250? At £220. 250 can I see? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:41 | |
£220. 250. 280. 300. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
300 now with the phone. At £300. Beating the book. At £300. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
At £300. Can I see 320? | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
At £300. 320 can I see? £300. On the phone at £300. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
We are selling at £300. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
-Fair warning. -BANGS GAVEL | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
That gavel's just gone down. £300. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
-Jane, it's gone. You've said goodbye. -Absolutely. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
You don't have to take it home. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
-No. That's good. -Yeah. Are you happy with that? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
Yes, I'm happy with that. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:12 | |
'Yet again, Mark's valuation was right on the money. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
'Time now for our final lot of the day.' | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
Going under the hammer right now, a collection of medals. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
There has been a great deal of interest here. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
Awarded to James Rowland, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:23 | |
who was accidentally killed in 1942 in a Hurricane demonstration. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
They belonged to Jimmy, who was left them by his wife. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
Unfortunately he can't be here today. But his friend Jim is. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
-To confuse things a bit. -Just call me Jimmy. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
Do you know much about his medals? | 0:40:35 | 0:40:36 | |
I didn't know a lot until the "Flog It!" show. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
Jim had the paperwork on the inquisition into his death | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
when he was shot by a Hurricane, unfortunately. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
But it was "Flog It!" that found out how he won the Military Cross. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
-A very brave man in the First World War. -Sure. Yeah. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
Survived that and then got killed in 1942, rather tragically. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
Well, I've been told there are telephone lines booked on this. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
-The collectors are seriously after this one. -When it comes to medals, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
anything with a great story is what sells it. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
We've got the provenance, we've got the story, unfortunately | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
we don't have Jimmy, but we'll talk to him hopefully later. Here we are. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
We are putting them under the hammer. Let's do it. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
Group of four First World War awards to James Rowland West, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
comprising the Military Cross - George V issue, the 1415 Star. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
A wonderful group of medals and a wonderful story to go with them. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
We are opening the bidding here at £800. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
800 is the lowest we can start. £800. Can I see the 850? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
£800. 850 can I see? | 0:41:35 | 0:41:36 | |
850? | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
850 now I have here on the phone. At 850. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
-900. 950. -Would you like to go to 950? | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
-Yes, please. -950. 1000. 1,100. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
Would you like to go 1,100? | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
-1,100. 1,200 here. 1,300? -1,300? | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
-Yes, please. -£1,300 on the phone. 1,400 can I see? | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
1,300. 1,400 can I see? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
£1,300. 1,400 now. Thank you, sir. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
-At 1,400. -£1,400. -1,600, sir? | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
-1,700? -1,700? | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
Jimmy would be pleased with this. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
1,800. 1,900? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
Would you like to go 1,900? | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
£1,800 in the room. At 1,800. 1,900 can I see? | 0:42:22 | 0:42:28 | |
£2,000 I'm bid on the phone. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
At 2,000. £2,000. Can I see 2,200? | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
£2,000! | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
2,200 can I see? | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
At £2,000, Tom, with you on the phone. At £2,000. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
Is there are any advance on £2,000? | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Selling. £2,000. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
Yes! What a great result! | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
What a great result for a wonderful piece of history. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
Our experts have said it time and time again on the show, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
it's the story behind the object, the provenance, the social history, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
that's what you bought into then. £2,000. What a way to end the show. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
You must tell Jimmy. Well done, Jim. Thank you very much for coming in. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
See you next time for many more surprises on "Flog It!" | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
But for now, from West Sussex, it's goodbye. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 |