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We're in Suffolk. I'm taking the scenic route.

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Later on in the programme,

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we'll be exploring some of the more unusual features the landscape

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has to offer around here, but first, we need to find some antiques.

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And our valuation day venue is being held

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in one of the county's more unusual landmarks.

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Welcome to "Flog It!"

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Big Ben, the White Cliffs of Dover, Stonehenge.

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Our country is identified by and loved for its landmarks.

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And one of the most outstanding landmarks in Suffolk

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is today's valuation venue, Ickworth House.

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It was created by the fourth Earl of Bristol

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to indulge a fascination for oval buildings.

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Begun in 1795, the result is one of England's most extraordinary houses.

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# Run, run, run away, run away, baby

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# Before I put my spell on you. #

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The Earl designed this striking architectural delight, the Rotunda,

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to house his fine art collection and, of course, for entertaining.

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And I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that today,

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some 200 years later, it's still fulfilling its purpose.

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Hundreds of people have turned up laden with fine art

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and antiques, all hoping to be entertained by our experts

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and all hoping they're one of the lucky ones to get picked

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to go through to the auction later on.

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But first of all, they all want to ask

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that all-important question, which is...

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CROWD: What's it worth?

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They're going to find out and so are you, so stay tuned.

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And already making their mark on the queue are today's experts.

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A feature on the antiques scene for longer than he'd care to mention.

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It's the one and only Philip Serrell.

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What do you think it might be worth

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and what would persuade you to sell it?

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It would have to be thousands, which is isn't.

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LAUGHTER

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I think you're going to have this for a long time.

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LAUGHTER

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And on his tail is the sprightly Adam Partridge.

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-That's old.

-So I've been told.

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Oh, you knew that already.

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"Tell me something I don't know," she's saying.

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LAUGHTER

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Today, we've got our very own wing of the house, the West Wing.

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And we've got a packed show ahead,

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so let's open the doors and get cracking.

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Coming up, there's some good news at the valuation day tables.

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What? Each?

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I like that reaction. That's good. You can come again.

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And some bad news.

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-The artist is Michelangelo.

-Yes.

-But not that one.

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But whose day turns out much better than predicted?

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-£440.

-Result!

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LAUGHTER

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Well, it's all going on right here in the West Wing.

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We have a whole team of experts off-screen, doing all the research

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and on-screen, in front of the camera.

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So I think it's about time we caught up with Philip Serrell

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and our first valuation.

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It's lights, camera, action. It's all happening down there.

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To kick off, we thought we'd treat Phil

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to one of his favourite types of pottery.

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Jean, I was having a really nice day

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and I thought, what a lovely place this is,

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and then you had to go and spoil it and bring this along.

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-Have you not seen me with Clarice Cliff on this programme?

-No. No.

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-I gather you don't like it.

-I hate it.

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Do you like it? Truthfully?

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-No, I don't like it at all.

-I mean...

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No, I don't hate it. I think it's quite stylish. She was a good lady.

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Died in 1972 at the age of 73.

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She's clearly very innovative

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and up there at the forefront of 20th-century British potters,

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but this was done in the 1930s. And this was the height.

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She was the director of the company when she did this.

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-And is it the Coral...?

-Coral Firs.

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-Coral Firs pattern, isn't it?

-Yes.

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So you don't like this, but you've got it. How does that sort of...?

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It belonged to my late partner.

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How he acquired it, it belonged to his aunt.

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-And it just stayed in the cabinet.

-It was just stuff.

-Yeah.

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-I knew it was a good piece because it's Clarice Cliff.

-Yeah.

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-This is a good thing. It's in good order.

-Mm-hm.

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So you can see there, look, it's got, "Made in England,"

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and then we've got hand painted,

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"Bizarre by Clarice Cliff, Newport Pottery."

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What you have got is if you flash it in the light,

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-can you see all those crazing marks there?

-Yeah.

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That's not cracking, that's crazing in the glaze.

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And her works were prone to that.

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It's a 64,000 question, isn't it, which is, what's it worth?

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I think it needs to be estimated at sort of £400-£600.

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That would be my view.

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And I'd put a reserve on it of £400,

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but I'd give the auctioneers 10% discretion if they needed it.

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-Yeah, that's fine.

-So it's...

-Let it go.

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-..goodbye, Clarice.

-Definitely.

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Jean's not the only one keen to flog it.

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There must be homes all across Suffolk today with more

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space in the wardrobes or a gap on the wall.

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Look at that.

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Beautiful washed out watercolours, just very soft and palatable.

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That's really nice, isn't it? They're just ready to make sail.

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Are you all having a good time, everyone?

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Yes. Fingers crossed it could be you or you or you going through to the auction

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later on, and making a small fortune.

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Don't go away, because it starts right here.

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Now, Adam can play the violin and piano

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but can he tease out a tune on Helen's musical instrument?

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-Good morning, Helen. Welcome to Flog It.

-Morning.

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This is a concertina, as you know,

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but a lot of people will call them squeezeboxes, accordions.

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-The correct term is a concertina. Do you play it?

-No.

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How would you come to own it?

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It came down from my late father, who died 30 years ago.

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-It's been on a shelf in the wardrobe ever since.

-Oh, dear.

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-But he played it, did he?

-Yes, he did as a child.

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-I can remember him playing it when I was a small child.

-Oh, yes.

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-Folk music and things like that?

-Mainly hymns, I think.

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Mainly hymns? They are used as well in a religious context.

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We've already said it's a concertina.

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It's a 48-key concertina.

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There's different keys, different models of these out there.

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It's got its original rosewood box as well.

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-Remarkably...

-Got the key

-..still got the key.

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This oval plaque here. There would have been a paper label behind there,

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-and that's where the maker's label would have been.

-Yes.

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And a serial number.

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From that, I can tell it was made by Louis Lachenal,

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who was a prolific maker of concertinas

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-at the end of the 19th century. So this dates about 1880.

-Really?

-Yes.

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It's got this pierced rosewood end,

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and the leather bellows are in quite good order.

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I'm just being careful to open it up there.

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There doesn't seem to be any holes or anything like that.

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-Can you get a note out of it?

-Not really. It's just been...

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-You don't know how to play it?

-No.

-I don't either.

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PLAYS CONCERTINA

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Sounds like a scary movie, doesn't it?

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It does show that it's working, it's making a good noise.

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And a lateral concertina of this kind is still quite collected,

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-because people still play them.

-Do they?

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This should meet with lots of interest at auction.

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The basic model is £50-£80.

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And the very best concertinas, up to £5,000.

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They really vary quite a lot. This one here, it's not a bad example.

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And I would suggest it should make £200-£300 at auction.

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-Is that all right with you?

-Yes, that's fine.

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I put a reserve just slightly below, 180 reserve.

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And I hope the auctioneer can squeeze a few bids out of it.

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Well, one thing is for sure.

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I don't think we can squeeze many more people into the west wing.

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So, how about we pop outside

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and take a look at the fourth Earl of Bristol's creation,

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with splendid rotunda?

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A monument with more than one use.

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Now, the Earl loved to travel. He had a particular passion for Italy

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and he wanted the style of architecture to reflect

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the Italianate style, and I think he's really achieved that.

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But the rotunda had another purpose.

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It's known that the ground water here was

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polluted by agricultural waste in the 1860s.

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The problem was solved with a rainwater harvesting system.

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Basically, the rotunda collected the rainwater in the roof.

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It was put through a filter and then pumped to the attic in the house,

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and then distributed throughout the house as and when needed,

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by turning on the tap.

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So, not just an iconic, beautiful piece of architecture,

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but also a practical building as well.

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And back in the west wing, beautiful as well as practical

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might be an apt description of Shirley's profession.

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-Shirley, how are you?

-Fine, thank you.

-Now, are you a Suffolk lass?

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-Cambridgeshire, by one mile.

-By one mile.

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Are you in love with the agricultural fraternity?

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-I used to be. I'm a carriage driving teacher, really.

-Carriage driving

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-the Duke of Edinburgh does?

-Yes.

-That's cool.

-Great fun.

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-How long did it take you to learn that?

-I started when I was six

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-with Shetland ponies.

-Are you from a farming family?

-Oh, yes.

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Because this painting you brought along is a painting

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-I can see hanging in a farmhouse.

-Yes.

-Do you know who the artist is?

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-No.

-There's good news and bad news. The artist is Michelangelo.

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-Oh, yes?

-But not that one. That's the bad news.

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-I can't pronounce... It's Meucci, which is M-E-U-C-C-I.

-Yes.

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And this chap was prolific in the 19th century.

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And he did live birds, which made £1,000 plus,

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and he did dead birds, which made £150.

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So, by and large, people don't want dead birds hanging on the walls

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and so a painting like this...

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Its value falls a bit, simply because of the subject matter.

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Having said that, you've got a lovely Black Forest carved vine leaf frame around it.

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-I think that'll help it along.

-Is that contemporary with the picture?

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I would have said it probably was.

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What do you know about it? How long have you owned it?

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I have owned it since 1996, when my mother died.

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She bought it before then, so it's been in the family over 50 years.

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-Did she buy it at auction?

-She did. But she didn't do auctions,

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so we don't know why she went to this auction and bought this picture,

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because she hid it away to start with.

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-She didn't want anyone to know about it.

-Was it a mistake?

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I think it must have been.

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This is almost the ideal subject of what's not in fashion any more.

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Because you've got a Black Forest frame that isn't

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quite as collectable as it was 10 or 15 years ago.

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You've got this subject,

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and I think all that affects how you pitch your estimate.

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And I think you need to put your estimate at £150-£200.

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Reserve it at 150. I wouldn't be surprised

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if somebody bought it and took the frame one way

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and perhaps put a mirror in it and made that,

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and the painting went another way and got perhaps framed in a

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more traditional image, but I think that's where you need to pitch it.

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If you have a result, it might do a lot better

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but I think we've really got to be cautious with it.

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It would suit a National Trust game larder, or something like that.

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Yeah. This is a typical larder, this marble slab.

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-Perhaps we should tell them about it.

-I shall leave that up to you.

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Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope that the birds fly.

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They don't look like they're going far, do they?

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I'm sure there's life in the old birds yet, Shirley.

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Especially where we're going.

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It's been a successful morning here at Ickworth, with a variety of items

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uncovered, but right now it's time to put those valuations to the

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test, as we head over to the auction room for the very first

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time in today's show, and here's a quick recap just to

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jog your memory of all the items that are going under the hammer.

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It's not to Jean and Phil's taste but the Coral Firs pattern

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is a stylish and collectable piece of Clarice Cliff pottery.

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Is Adam's estimate on this concertina at the right

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pitch for today's bidders?

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And we have Shirley's oil on board from 1877.

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Will it be the Black Forest frame, or the subject matter that

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determines its sale price?

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We've headed north over the border into Norfolk, as our auction today

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comes from the market town of Diss.

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And TW Gaze, our saleroom, is run by a familiar face.

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Auctioneer Elizabeth Talbot.

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Debuting first in front of this packed auction house is

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Jean's Clarice Cliff vase.

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Somebody out there does love it, because they keep buying it

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but a lot of our owners keep selling it. Does it mean they don't like it?

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Probably.

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Do you know, I thought you might have liked it

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because I know you like to wear bright, jazzy things.

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-Yeah. I like the abstract ones.

-I don't blame you.

-Like the teapots.

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It is quite subjective.

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I do like some of it but most of it I do not like.

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Really? I think this is...

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-Do you like it?

-No, I think it's awful. Not awful.

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-But it's just not me, really.

-I know you like it.

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You're watching, going, "Yes, I'll buy it."

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-Someone will buy it because it always sells.

-We'd like the money.

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So would I.

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Good luck. Here we go. Someone is going to love this.

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Lot 350. The 1930s Clarice Cliff bizarre range of vase.

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I have interest on the sheet shown here, and I start at just £350.

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At 350, I have at 350. 360.

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370, 380, 390.

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400, 420.

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440, 460, 480.

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Now the room at 480. In the room at 480 to my left.

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500, new bidder.

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520. 520 near to me. At 520. Any advance on £520?

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£520. We're all very happy.

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I think that's really good. I do think that is good.

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-I'm happy with that.

-Yeah, big smile.

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With such a good turnout today, there was bound to be a few

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Clarice Cliff fans in the room.

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I've got to say, it's a terrific auction.

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The atmosphere is electrifying in here, and right now

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hopefully we're going to hit the high notes with Helen's concertina.

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-We're looking at £200-£300, Adam.

-Certainly.

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You brought it to the right expert.

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Adam's a little bit of a musician on the quiet.

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Plays the violin and piano.

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I think people would wish it would be on the quiet.

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Hey, at least it's not the bagpipes or the trumpet.

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Hey, this was your dad's, wasn't it?

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-Yes and my late father's.

-So it's been in the loft.

-In the wardrobe.

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Where else do you keep a concertina? Come on.

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The amount I have found in wardrobes is unbelievable.

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Check your wardrobe.

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Fingers crossed. Let's hope for the top end and a bit more.

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Let's hand things over to Elizabeth on the rostrum.

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Lot 400 is a 19th century rosewood encased concertina, or squeeze-box.

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Good collector's item here, start me at 200.

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£200, surely?

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150 I'll take.

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150 bid on commission. At 150, now where's 60?

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At 150 now, it's a beautiful piece. 160,

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170, 180, 190...

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190, round it up.

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Oh, come on.

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On commission at 190, looking for 200.

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At £190. At 190, it will sell at 190!

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-Not the high note we were expecting, the low note.

-But it sold.

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-It's gone and you don't mind, do you?

-No.

-Good.

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-Because I didn't play.

-Good. That's good.

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Let's hope its new owner can squeeze out a tune or two.

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Now earlier, before the auction got under way, I caught up with

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our auctioneer, Elizabeth, casting an appreciative eye over our next lot.

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-Do you like that?

-I do like that. I like that very much.

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It sits very well on the wall there.

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I was admiring because its original frame, by the looks of it, too.

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-Yes, it looks like it's been cleaned recently.

-It has been cleaned in its history

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but you can reveal the lovely signature and the date on the bottom

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which I feel that's quite a nice thing to be able to see.

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This belongs to Shirley and we had a valuation of £150 on this.

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I gathered, yes. Yes, yes.

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-Something has happened since then.

-What's happened?

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Well, she's actually contacted us and raised the reserve to £300.

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Right, OK.

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Actually, looking at that,

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-you would still pay £300 for it, wouldn't you?

-I would.

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I have just been musing whether that seems fair

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and I think it does seem fair.

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More to the point, this artist, who is very prolific,

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-and well known for such...

-Michelangelo?

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With a name like that you have to paint a painting!

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That sort of money is not unknown.

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-£300-400 is the new revised estimate.

-It's not out of the way.

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-I'm not sweating at this point.

-I bet you're not!

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You're quietly confident, aren't you?

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So without further ado, let's see if Elizabeth's right?

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Lot 95, any advance?

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On the day, I looked his prices up

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and he sort of...I put it in his rock bottom figures, 150-250.

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I think, if you promote it properly, online bidding,

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it will make what it's worth.

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Anyway, it's going under the hammer right now and I'm pretty sure it'll find a new home.

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Let's find out what this lot think.

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Michelangelo Meucci, the 1877 painting of dead game.

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Interest is shown and I start at just £200.

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£200 I have. 210, 220,

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230, 240, 250,

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260, 270, 280,

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-290...

-Someone wants it.

-I think so.

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At 290 now in the room, bid at 290.

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300, I'll take. 300 is bid.

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Someone's in the room now, that chap there.

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340, 360...

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-It's gone.

-Yeah?

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I'm looking for 80? 380 is the telephone.

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400. 400, I've lost the telephone.

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At £400 now. Is there any advance?

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Well, £400, it's gone and what we keep saying is quality always sells.

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That's a good result?

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Yes, very good, thank you very much.

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-Thank you, Philip.

-My pleasure.

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Well, it's good to see that Shirley's upped estimate

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was right on the money.

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..£600 on commission, I'm looking for 10...

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There you are, fast and furious for our first visit to the saleroom today.

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Now we couldn't come to this area and film without visiting

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the charming town of Southwold.

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It has many attractions but there are two rather unusual

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landmarks there that I got to enjoy, as you're just about to find out.

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Sitting on the Suffolk coast,

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Southwold is a quintessentially English resort.

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But it also has something you wouldn't expect to find

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amongst a row of terraced houses...

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..a town centre lighthouse.

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You can't really miss it, it's 31 metres in height

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and it really does stand out.

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Built to replace three local lighthouses

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threatened by coastal erosion, Southwold's lighthouse was built

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inland on higher ground on what was the edge of the town,

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back in 1890.

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Southwold grew and expanded around it and today I've arranged to meet

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up with Graham Hopwood, a trustee of the charitable foundation

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that helps to look after this landmark in the heart of Southwold.

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Gosh, look at that!

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The cantilevered spiral staircase, which takes you right to the top.

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-Graham?

-Hello, Paul.

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-Is that you up there?

-I'm up here.

-Is that you up there?

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He's right up the top. Can I come up?

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Of course, come on up, Paul.

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Wow!

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Well, this could take some time.

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-Hello.

-That was 90 steps, wasn't it?

-92.

-92.

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-Welcome to Southwold Lighthouse.

-Thank you.

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It's lovely to meet you, Graham. What room are we in now?

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We're standing in the service room

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and this was the room that the lighthouse keepers

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operated from when the lighthouse was fully manned

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between the 1890s and the late 1930s.

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So when was this demanned?

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It was demanned in 1938 when the lighthouse was electrified.

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-Right, OK.

-Previously, it had an oil burner as the main light source.

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-Yes.

-Then lamps were put in in 1938.

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So back then, what kind of lamps were used?

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We used a fairly large lamp at that stage.

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This is the first one that we used and it's a 3,000-watt lamp

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and finally, that's the lamp which is used in the lighthouse today.

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Why don't you come upstairs to the lantern room and have a look?

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I'll follow you.

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You get a great view from up here.

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On a good day, probably about 20-mile visibility but today,

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I'm afraid, it's not quite as good as that.

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-A bit of a rough day out there at sea, isn't it?

-Yes.

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This is the original lantern, but this was the lantern

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that has been used right up until December 2012.

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Our lighthouse source is now above. If you look up and see...

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-That a really nice, white clean light, isn't it?

-It is.

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-Which can be seen, how far out at sea?

-24 miles.

-24 miles.

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Well, I mean, really that's ideal for coastal awareness, isn't it?

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For those vessels passing by.

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It is, but, in fact, the shingle bank at Orford Ness

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is again suffering from coastal erosion

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and so that lighthouse is going to be decommissioned

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and Southwold Lighthouse range has had to be extended to cover

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the loss of that particular light.

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Once that does finally get decommissioned

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because the range has been extended on this one, this whole area

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will still be in safe hands. That's what it's all about, isn't it?

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-It certainly is.

-And long may it continue.

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-Graham, thank you for showing me the lighthouse.

-My pleasure.

-It's been a joy climbing up here.

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Now, another very important landmark in this area

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is over in that direction and that's where I'm off to right now.

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It doesn't stand out on the skyline like this one does

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but, nevertheless, it's still a very important landmark

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and it's got a lot of history attached to it.

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Let's go and find it.

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The town of Southwold sits at the mouth of the River Blyth

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and the neighbouring village of Walberswick is separated

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from Southwold by this narrow stretch of water.

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Landmarks can tell you so much about local history.

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As a ferry woman, Dani Church shows

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they can also come in all shapes and sizes.

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A familiar sight locally, Dani rows residents

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and tourists across the river, keeping communities connected.

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-Good morning.

-Hello.

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I've come to find out about the fascinating

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history behind this service, which Dani's own family has been

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associated with for five generations.

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-What your dog called?

-Nellie.

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She's beautiful. Has she always been on board?

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Pretty much, yes, she comes to work.

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Customers love, especially the children.

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Dani, how long have you and your family been involved in the ferry crossing?

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The first member of my family was involved was in the late 1800s.

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He is my great, great uncle, Benjamin Cross.

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Then, basically, a member of my family has been doing it ever since then.

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I gather the ferry's been running a lot longer than that?

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Yes, the first recorded crossing was 1236 - that's nearly 800 years ago.

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At that time it was a rowing boat and they used to charge ha'penny

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per person and per horse.

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Goodness how they rowed a horse across, I don't know.

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-Has it always been a rowing boat?

-Initially, it was a rowing boat.

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They did try to build a bridge in the 1800s.

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The Harbour Commissioners wanted to do that but it was too expensive.

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They decided to put in a pontoon chain ferry,

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-which would take two cars at a time.

-Sure.

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A lot of locals were living here and that was the only way across

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-because there was no bridge further up.

-Yeah.

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The pontoon ferry from the 1880s was in turn replaced by a new

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and improved steam ferry in the 1920s called The Blyth.

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How long did the chain ferry last?

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What happened in the Second World War, the army used to come across

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but they didn't pay.

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-The service went into disrepair because there was no money.

-Yeah.

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They moored it up and then, eventually,

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the pontoon just sort of ended up sitting on the mud

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and that was the end of that.

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After hundreds of years of crossings, both communities

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were cut off from each other but Dani's family came to the rescue.

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In 1940, her great, great-uncle, Old Bob Cross,

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enlisted his brother, Ernie.

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Together, using a fishing boat,

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they resurrected the old rowing boat service, which still operates today.

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-So who took over from Bob and Ernie?

-That was Young Bob, Old Bob's son.

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He did the ferry in the 1970s and 1980s.

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He became a bit of a celebrity because, at that time, the ferry turned from a necessity to a novelty

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-and even made the front page of the New York Times at one point.

-Really?

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-He became quite a celebrity.

-Local hero?

-Something like that.

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When did your father get involved?

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From about the age of 12, he started helping his great grandad,

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who was Old Bob, on the ferry

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and he taught him the tricks of the trade and Bob and Dad

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they were quite famous for their smoked fish - kippers and herrings,

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because they had a smokehouse.

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-It was one of the things do around here, really?

-Yeah.

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When did your father start to teach you to row?

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I can't really remember, it must've been from six or seven.

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I used to sit on the boat with him and watch him talk to the customers, stroke the dogs

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and gradually he would let me take one oar and then I would

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sit on his lap and do them together and he would teach me the tides.

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I've basically grown-up knowing all about the ferry and how it works.

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-It literally is handed down from father to daughter?

-Yeah.

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And you obviously clearly get job satisfaction,

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I can see you're really passionate about it.

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I think it's working outdoors, for me, is wonderful and the exercise.

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Also, meeting the people.

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There are so many people who come over.

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From year to year you gain your friends and the customers,

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you see them every year and you get to know what's going on in their lives.

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It's the continuity that I really enjoy.

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Dani's keen to keep the tradition alive

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and not one to keep her passengers waiting.

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-Jump on.

-Morning, everyone.

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Some regulars have turned up to get across, including Rita and her grandson.

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So, Rita, how long have you been using the ferry?

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I've been using the ferry for 61 years now.

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Gosh, you don't look old enough!

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You must have been born in the boat!

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-I was born in Walberswick. I was born in the village.

-Right.

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-My mother still lives here.

-What about you?

-I built the ferry.

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You built this ferry? You're a shipwright, aren't you?

0:27:150:27:18

-That's correct.

-A lovely trade.

-Yeah.

-Gosh!

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What do you think of Dani continuing the family tradition?

0:27:200:27:23

Southwold without the ferry wouldn't be Southwold, would it?

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It's got to have a ferry.

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The first one I built was 61 years ago.

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I have never rowed the boat.

0:27:320:27:34

-Are you...?

-No.

-It's never too late, is it?

0:27:340:27:37

THEY LAUGH

0:27:370:27:39

It's not too late for Dani's son, Charlie, or nephew, Oscar.

0:27:390:27:44

-Are you going to take over the business one day?

-No, Oscar is.

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-Is he?

-Yeah.

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-I want to do something different.

-You want to do something different!

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ALL LAUGH

0:27:530:27:56

Well, I can't think of a better way to travel

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and make friends at the same time.

0:28:020:28:05

Nellie, are you going to jump over?

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Long may the tradition of the Southwold

0:28:070:28:09

to Walberswick ferry continue.

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Yes, there's a lot of people, isn't there?

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Welcome back to Ickworth House.

0:28:210:28:23

And, at the valuation table,

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Adam's about to get a bit of religious education.

0:28:260:28:29

Damaris. Your name is Damaris?

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-It is.

-Damaris, that's a very unusual name.

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-It comes from the book of Acts in the Bible.

-It's a biblical name.

0:28:340:28:37

Damaris was a follower of Saint Paul.

0:28:370:28:40

-Have you met any others?

-I met one once, I taught one once.

0:28:400:28:44

Where did you get this copper from?

0:28:440:28:47

When I was first married which was in 1964,

0:28:470:28:50

we wanted a coal bucket and we went to the local market.

0:28:500:28:55

-Where was that, then?

-In Clitheroe.

-Clitheroe!

0:28:550:28:58

-Are you a Lancashire lady?

-Yes, I'm from that area.

-Very good.

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We saw this but, of course, it was all black and horrible

0:29:010:29:04

and I didn't realise what it would look like.

0:29:040:29:06

Yes, it's come up beautifully, hasn't it?

0:29:060:29:09

-I've cleaned it ever since.

-Have you?

-I've always cleaned it, yes.

0:29:090:29:12

-Do remember what it cost you?

-I do.

0:29:120:29:15

That's a Lancashire lady for you.

0:29:150:29:16

-Dare I tell you?

-All right.

-Ten shillings.

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-That's not that much, is it?

-No, 50p.

-50p!

0:29:190:29:23

-It was a lot then, though.

-Of course it was.

0:29:230:29:25

I wanted to know really how old it was.

0:29:250:29:28

Well, that's an easy one, really,

0:29:280:29:31

because of the style of decoration to it.

0:29:310:29:33

It's very much the Art Nouveau, Arts and Crafts style.

0:29:330:29:35

-I thought it was Arts and Crafts.

-Yeah, it's sort of 1900s...

-Yes.

0:29:350:29:39

..where this was very popular.

0:29:390:29:41

You've got this stylised flower heads and these

0:29:410:29:45

spades from club suits, aren't they?

0:29:450:29:47

There are a number of designers that made these, sort of, things.

0:29:470:29:50

There was Voysey and Benson

0:29:500:29:53

and there was the Newlyn school of copper.

0:29:530:29:56

Yes, I wondered about that.

0:29:560:29:57

-Have you seen any markings on it when you've been cleaning?

-No.

0:29:570:30:00

-You'll be more familiar with this than anybody.

-No, I've never found a marking.

0:30:000:30:03

I think it's going to be indeterminate as to where it

0:30:030:30:06

was made but it's very likely to have been made

0:30:060:30:09

in the Cumbria's metal workshops.

0:30:090:30:11

It might be Keswick?

0:30:110:30:13

It certainly an Arts and Crafts, Art Nouveau, 1900 coal bucket.

0:30:130:30:17

It cost 10 shillings. Today's value?

0:30:170:30:20

One man I talked to thought it might be 80 to 100.

0:30:200:30:24

I think it'd make a bit over 100, really

0:30:240:30:26

but 80 to 100 is about the right estimate.

0:30:260:30:29

-How would you feel about that?

-Yes, that's all right.

-Is it?

0:30:290:30:31

I've found out something about it and that's really why I brought it.

0:30:310:30:35

Well, that's right and if it makes a good price, 150, 160...

0:30:350:30:39

-Even better.

-It would, wouldn't it?

0:30:390:30:41

I'll buy something I like that I don't need.

0:30:410:30:44

-Something you like, that you don't need.

-Like a piece of jewellery.

0:30:440:30:47

-A luxury item?

-Yes.

-Very good. Lots of people are going to like that.

0:30:470:30:50

-Yeah.

-Fingers crossed, Damaris. Thanks for coming.

-Thank you.

0:30:500:30:54

Well, let's hope Damaris can treat herself to something special.

0:30:540:30:58

Now, where is this intriguing box of Sheila's been hiding?

0:31:000:31:04

-They've been stuck in a cupboard.

-Are they family things?

-Auntie Bessie's.

0:31:040:31:07

-Who's Auntie Bessie?

-Auntie Bessie died in '97.

0:31:070:31:11

She was in her early 90s.

0:31:110:31:13

And she used to collect everything,

0:31:130:31:16

and when she died the immediate family got the house but,

0:31:160:31:19

because I'd looked after her a lot,

0:31:190:31:20

me and another cousin had the contents.

0:31:200:31:23

Oh, that's nice. Tell me about her.

0:31:230:31:25

Well, she used to be a photographer, and during the war,

0:31:250:31:29

when the main photographer had to go away, she took over,

0:31:290:31:32

and when they brought the German generals to Windermere, because

0:31:320:31:36

there must have been a camp there, nobody had to take photographs,

0:31:360:31:41

so she climbed a tree

0:31:410:31:42

and I've got the photographs of the German generals.

0:31:420:31:46

-She was a real character.

-So is this Auntie Bessie's?

0:31:460:31:49

-That was Auntie Bessie's.

-Let's look and see what we've got.

-Good idea.

0:31:490:31:53

It's going to be a canteen of... Oh, those are nice, aren't they?

0:31:530:31:56

-They are beautiful.

-These are fruit knives and forks.

-Yeah.

0:31:560:32:00

But it's a set of eight.

0:32:000:32:01

You either have six or 12, you don't have eight.

0:32:010:32:05

I don't know that I've ever seen a set of eight fruit knives

0:32:050:32:07

-and forks.

-No, I haven't.

-These are mother-of-pearl handles.

0:32:070:32:10

-Sheffield hallmark for 1930.

-Right.

0:32:100:32:13

And they are hallmarked by Cooper Brothers.

0:32:130:32:15

But the thing I find really interesting about these

0:32:150:32:18

-is I wouldn't think these had ever been used.

-No.

0:32:180:32:23

And now someone will probably buy them, take them home, think they are

0:32:230:32:26

really lovely, put them in a drawer and they will never get used.

0:32:260:32:30

And these will spend their life never being used.

0:32:300:32:33

-Yeah, in a drawer.

-Yeah.

0:32:330:32:34

-Sad, isn't it?

-It's very sad, yeah. They are beautiful.

0:32:340:32:37

-So what are they going to make, do you think?

-I haven't a clue.

0:32:370:32:41

Well, because they are not going to be used, they are almost useless,

0:32:410:32:45

I think you should estimate them at £50-£80

0:32:450:32:48

-and put a reserve of 40 quid on them. That's what I think.

-Yeah.

0:32:480:32:53

And it would be nice if somebody bought Bessie's

0:32:530:32:55

-fruit knives and forks...

-And used them...

0:32:550:32:57

..and actually got some use out of them.

0:32:570:32:59

-That would be lovely, wouldn't it?

-We need somebody in a big house.

0:32:590:33:02

-Absolutely right.

-A castle.

-Keep our fingers crossed.

0:33:020:33:05

And talking of big houses, we couldn't come to Ickworth,

0:33:080:33:11

now owned by the National Trust,

0:33:110:33:13

without taking a closer look inside the glorious rotunda.

0:33:130:33:16

The fourth Earl of Bristol, who commissioned Ickworth,

0:33:180:33:21

had two passions, building and collecting.

0:33:210:33:24

The Earl was obsessed with fine art and antiques, which he

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picked up on his travels over the years on the grand tour of Europe.

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And the house was designed to show off the fruits of his labour.

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But sadly, the collection was destined to remain in Europe.

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It was confiscated by Napoleonic troops in Rome in 1798

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and the Earl spent the remaining years of his life

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campaigning for its restitution.

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But all was not lost. Just take a look at this sculpture.

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It was commissioned by the Earl when he met the artist in Rome in 1790.

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It depicts the Fury Of Athamas.

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According to Greek legend, in a fit of madness,

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Athamas murdered his son.

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His wife and their remaining son

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then threw themselves into the sea to escape his fury.

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It was confiscated by the Napoleonic troops

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along with the rest of the collection.

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His son, the first Marquis, was able to buy it back.

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It's one of the few works of art originally picked up by the Earl

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that actually made it back here to Ickworth, and I must say it makes

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the most marvellous focal point here in this magnificent rotunda.

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I'm sure the Earl would be pleased to see all the collectables

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being brought along to the West Wing today.

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Well, Ian, it's always interesting

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to see swords coming in to the programme.

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Whenever we have a military sale at my auction room,

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it's amazing how many people have got swords and guns

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and things tucked away that they feel is a liability

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and don't know what to do with.

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Can you tell me where you got them from

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and why you decided to bring them to Flog It?

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They were my father-in-law's

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and my mother-in-law said she didn't want them to go to

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-the youngest grandson because she was afraid he might cut himself.

-OK.

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So they were given to me and I've had them for about ten years,

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just sat in an umbrella stand. I'm not a sword man.

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-I'd rather they went to someone who would appreciate them.

-Yeah.

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Well, they are the sort of thing that tends to get hidden

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under the bed in a blanket or on top of the wardrobe or in

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-an umbrella stand, because people don't know what to do with them.

-Exactly.

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But there is also a very keen interest in militaria these days.

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And a lot of people would like to own these,

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have them hanging on the wall or in a cabinet.

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-People watching are going to say they are a pair.

-They are not.

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-There are slight differences.

-There are slight differences,

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but they are both light cavalry swords, 1821 pattern.

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This one here is Royal Horse Artillery and these will be of

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the Victorian period, early Victorian period,

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so about 1850, I'd imagine.

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Nice to see them in good condition.

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-The decoration on the blades is crisp.

-It's lovely.

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Yeah, there's no rusting and the wire-bound handles,

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-do you know what that material is?

-Shagreen, I think.

-Very good.

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Yeah, sharkskin, shagreen handles. So quite a luxury item.

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-These are an officer's sword.

-I would think so.

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They never saw any actual action, I would have thought.

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They are more a dress officer's sword. So that's the first one.

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And the second one, very, very similar.

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The same pattern and design.

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This one's been pulled in and out of the scabbard a bit more,

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had a bit more action.

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-In fact I can smell the oil on them still.

-Still?

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Yeah, I just caught a whiff of it there.

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So, like I said, there's a very ready market for them.

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What you think they are worth? Any ideas?

0:36:460:36:49

Well, I honestly thought they were probably 1930, 1940,

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ceremonial dress swords, brought out for trooping the colour.

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-And I thought 20 quid?

-OK.

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Well, there's a nice surprise for you, really.

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-They are worth about 150 quid each.

-What?!

-Yeah, I think so.

-Each?

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Yes. They are quite a... I like that reaction! You can come again.

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They are nice. There are in good condition, pretty much.

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I suggest put them together and an estimate combined of £300-£400.

0:37:140:37:18

-Wow.

-So... Happy with that?

-Very happy.

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I think we should put a reserve on them,

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-so let's put 300 on them, shall we?

-Yeah, no problem.

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-That gives them every chance...

-To go.

-To go.

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Thanks for bringing them in and fingers crossed,

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-as the swords are crossed, for a good result.

-Good.

-Thanks very much.

-Thank you.

-Cheers.

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And that lovely surprise for Ian rounds up today's items.

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Well, there you are, three more items to take off to auction,

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which means it's time to say goodbye to our magnificent host location,

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Ickworth House,

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and the marvellous architectural delight of the Rotunda.

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We had a brilliant day here, but let's make our way

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over to Diss, to the auction room for the last time.

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And here's what's coming with us.

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There's the Arts And Crafts copper coal bucket,

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found in Clitheroe market for ten shillings.

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Will Auntie Bessie's canteen of fruit knives and forks

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find rich pickings amongst the bidders?

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And finally,

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will these light cavalry swords from the 1850s make a stand at auction?

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Welcome back to Diss, where the saleroom is still overflowing and

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our eagle-eyed auctioneer Elizabeth Talbot never misses a beat.

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£100. Are you all done?

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Going under the hammer right now we have a very stylish

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copper coal bucket belonging to Damaris.

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Now, you bought this copper coal bucket in a black

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-and tarnished condition.

-I did, yes.

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-Lots of love has gone into cleaning that.

-49 years.

-Gosh!

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-Because once you start cleaning it you've got to keep doing it.

-Yeah.

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Let's face it.

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It has a touch of sort of Keswick school meets Newlyn school about it.

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That lovely applied metal thing that went on in the early 1900s.

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I think that's what singles it out as a valuable thing rather

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-than a 20-quid copper thing.

-Exactly.

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There's a bit of punched detail as well. Repousse, as they say.

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Look, good luck. We are putting this to the test right now. Here we go.

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Lot 140 next, interest on the sheet shown and I start here at just £65.

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At 65. Where's 70? 70. Five.

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80. Five.

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£85. Bid at 85.

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Any advance?

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It's gone.

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-It's gone.

-Sadly not out that top end that we were all hoping.

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-But it's gone.

-No more brassing.

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No more cleaning! I think that's the good news here.

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That's the moral - no more cleaning.

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Yes, that's fine, I'm quite happy with it.

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And after 49 years of polishing, I'm not surprised!

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Will our next lot shine?

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Can you remember what we are selling? I bet you can, can't you?

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Yes, it's Sheila and the canteen of cutlery.

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-Fruit forks and knives, really.

-It is.

-Ever use them?

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-No.

-No. How many people do use them nowadays?

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They use them a lot in Worcestershire. All the time.

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-Do they?

-Never without them.

-Good luck, though.

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I'm pretty sure these will go, they're great value for money.

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-They'll do well.

-Here we go.

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Start me at 50. Fruit knives and forks. Lovely set. £50.

0:40:200:40:25

30 I'll take.

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30 bid. Thank you, that gentleman, at 30. I'll take two. 32.

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35.

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38. 40.

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40 I have. Where's two? At £40 they sell...

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£40.

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-Clearly nobody else uses them either, do they?

-No!

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You beat me to it, yes.

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That is the sad fact, the dining room has long disappeared.

0:40:510:40:55

-Sorry, we tried our best.

-That's fine. That's OK.

0:40:550:40:59

-But I don't think we could have got any more, actually.

-No.

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Well, there's more room in my cupboard now to put more junk in.

0:41:030:41:08

Absolutely, Sheila. You can't beat a good clear out.

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Now, Ian thought these swords were worthless reproductions

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and nearly didn't bring them along to the valuation day.

0:41:180:41:21

-Ian, why are you selling them?

-They are absolutely no good to me.

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They've just been sat in the umbrella stand for the last ten years or so.

0:41:240:41:28

-Umbrella stand!

-That's familiar, isn't it?

-It is, really!

0:41:280:41:31

-I mean, cutting-edge weapons are very collectable.

-Yes, they are.

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There's a massive market for militaria and these are good

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examples because the blades are in good condition, nicely etched.

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-They tick all the boxes for the collectors.

-Fingers crossed.

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But you never know, it's an auction. Let's hand things over to Elizabeth.

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Here we go.

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150 now. I have interest on the sheet shown.

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-Interest on the sheet.

-And I start here at just £210.

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210 I have.

0:41:570:41:59

-That's OK because we are in. It didn't start at 70.

-Yeah.

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240. 250. 260. 270.

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280. 290.

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300 in the room. I'll take 20. 300, the corner bid at 300.

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320 on the phone. 340.

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360.

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-I really didn't think they were worth more than about 20 quid.

-£400.

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Fine swords at £400. Am I missing anybody?

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420.

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Yes.

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-440.

-Wow!

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440's bid. At 440. Taking it steady at £440.

0:42:310:42:35

Any advance on £440? The telephone takes them at 440.

0:42:350:42:39

-Well done! £440!

-We thumped!

-You were expecting about £20.

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Honestly, guys, I said to Adam that I was really embarrassed

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about bringing them along.

0:42:480:42:50

Absolutely stunned.

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That really was a small fortune hiding in Ian's umbrella stand.

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Well, that's it. It's all over for our owners.

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Another day in another saleroom. What a fabulous time we've had here.

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Everyone has gone home happy and that's what it's all about,

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job done.

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If you've got any antiques you want to sell we would love to see you.

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Bring them along to one of our valuation days and it could be you

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in the next saleroom going home with a lot of money.

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But until then we've thoroughly enjoyed being here in Diss

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and I hope you've enjoyed the show. So until the next time it's goodbye.

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