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These are the famous cloisters at Gloucester Cathedral.

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Their beauty and their virtuosity would be an astonishing achievement

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today, let alone some 700 years ago,

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and they are some of the finest examples of medieval craftsmanship

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you will find in Europe.

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And they attract thousands of visitors each year,

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including a young wizard and his friends.

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Well, if they're good enough for Harry Potter,

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they're good enough for us.

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Welcome to "Flog It!"

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The medieval artistry and craftsmanship on display

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within the cathedral is breathtaking.

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From the intricate stonework...

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..to the soaring vaulted ceiling,

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with its heavenly orchestra of angels.

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And the huge windows of coloured glass,

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casting shadows of jewelled light.

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Everything's been designed to inspire all.

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And it certainly does.

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But just as awe-inspiring is this fantastic queue.

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Here today hundreds of people have turned up with, as of yet,

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undiscovered treasures crafted by unknown hands from unknown lands

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for our experts to muse over.

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Of course, this lot want to ask that all important question, which is...

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-ALL:

-What's it worth?

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And if you're happy with your valuation, what are you going to do?

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"Flog It!"!

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Right, let's get this lot inside.

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Before that, let's meet our experts,

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Philip Serrell.

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You have just been royally stickered, you have.

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And the security conscious Michael Baggott.

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Bag inspection, bag inspection.

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Both are ready to do battle in their own unique way.

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Don't you dare. Don't you dare.

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-Don't you dare.

-They don't like it up 'em.

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Very Dad's Army!

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All right, OK.

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In today's programme, Michael's in for a nice surprise.

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I thought it was a garden ornament, to be honest.

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It's a garden ornament? Whenever I've been dragged down

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the garden centre, I don't think I've ever seen anything like this.

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If I had, I'd have bust out into a run, almost.

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And even I get carried away.

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You've made my day.

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-Philip spoilt it at the valuation.

-I know!

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These magnificent columns that you can see in the nave are part of the

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earliest Norman building.

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Now, they have outlasted the original wooden structure

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and the thatched roof.

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The red stains that you can see around the bases,

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that's evidence of an early fire.

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Now, that must've been some inferno.

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Talking of fireworks, here is our first valuation.

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-Margaret, how you?

-I'm very well, thank you.

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-What brings you to "Flog It!"?

-Oh, I love "Flog It!"

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-You love "Flog It!" Say it louder.

-Oh, I do.

-Hold on.

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Who is your "Flog It!" favourite?

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-Paul Martin.

-What?

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Yes. Well, and you, and you.

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-That's all right.

-I like you, as well.

-That's all right.

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-Yeah, of course.

-What have you brought along for us?

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I've brought you some measures.

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They were in my father's shop and he worked for his uncle and his cousin.

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So is that the...?

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George Alder was my father's...

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-From Stroud?

-From Stroud.

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This is a seed catalogue.

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Right. And who was GF Alder?

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He was my father's uncle.

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And they grew their own seed.

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-This is my father.

-That's your dad.

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-Yes.

-And he worked there, did he?

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-Yes.

-So he would have used these?

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-Yes.

-So these are seed measures.

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So someone who came into the shop

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and wanted half a pint of Marigold seeds,

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you scooped them out and that's the seed measure.

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-Yeah, that's right.

-And what's lovely about these is the fact that

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they're all stamped up and, because a measure,

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you can't just say that's a pint or half pint, it's got the GR,

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-or George's stamp on it.

-Yeah, that's right.

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And this one has got ER on it. Which is Edward, isn't it?

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-Yes.

-And that's... They're stamped with the reign of the monarch

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and they are actually...

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It just basically guarantees the measure, doesn't it?

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That's right, that's right.

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And this one, which is also...

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That's a half gallon and that's such a lovely colour, isn't it?

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-Yes.

-This is patinate. Patinate, it's the lines on its hands,

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it's the wrinkles on its face,

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it just tells you where it's been all of its life.

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And it's just lovely.

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It's like chewed toffee.

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Why would your family have kept these?

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Well, we've always had them, since the shop closed down.

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When did the shop shut?

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I think it was in the 1970s.

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But these wouldn't have been worth a great deal then, would they?

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-No.

-So you just kept them.

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-Oh, yes.

-In a way, that's been quite clever, hasn't it?

-Yes.

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Why do you want to sell them now?

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Just to meet that Paul Martin.

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That's what you want to do! You just want to meet that Paul Martin.

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Yes. I would, yeah. I wanted

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to sell them because they just collect dust, really.

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-I think they're lovely.

-Although I use them for pens.

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That's a waste paper basket.

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A wastepaper basket. What do you think they're going to make them?

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Oh, I don't think they'll make much.

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What, ten or 15 quid? Really?

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Each?

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-No, the lot.

-Really?

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Yes.

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I think you're wrong.

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I think we can put a £50 reserve on them and we'll estimate them

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at £60 to £90 and it wouldn't surprise me,

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it really wouldn't surprise me, if they made over 100.

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Lovely. Thank you. Thank you.

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I'm hoping that I might have just overtaken that Paul Martin.

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-Yes, definitely. Definitely.

-Yes, OK, cut.

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Don't need any more at all, thank you.

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So Philip's fan club is up and running

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with a healthy membership of one.

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Let's see how Michael's doing.

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John, Julie, you've brought a "Flog It!" favourite,

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a closed box. A closed jewellery box.

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Now, you know what's in it, and I peaked earlier,

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so shall we do the big reveal?

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-Let's do it.

-Yes, please.

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Look at that for a brooch.

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My goodness. That's going to divide opinion, isn't it?

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-Mm-hm.

-I think it will.

-Is it something that you both like, or...?

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We both like it, but not like it enough to not want to sell it.

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-I have worn it.

-You have worn it?

-I've only worn it once.

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Our son got married in January, and I wore it with my wedding outfit.

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But it's not the sort of thing I would wear normally.

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-It's a bold statement, isn't it?

-Yes.

-It is indeed.

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I mean, what we've got, it's these two grey baroque pearls.

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And when we say Baroque, all that means is they're an irregular shape.

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And someone's looked at them, a jeweller, and thought,

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"What can we do with these?"

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Now, in the Renaissance, in the 16th century,

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they often used them as the bodies of figures.

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-Yes.

-So this jeweller's got the inspiration

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and made two little plump birds.

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And then they've gone and they've covered it with the most

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-ornate and gaudy enamel colours.

-Mm-hm.

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And that says to me the 1950s...

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-Right, right.

-..into the 1960s.

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Where did it come from, though, did you buy it, or...?

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No, my mother-in-law left it to me.

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She wore it a lot as well.

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I've had it out and looked very meticulously.

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There's one mark, which is 750...

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-Yes.

-..which is the continental way of expressing 18-carat gold.

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-Right.

-Right.

-750 parts per thousand.

-Sure.

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There's also a smaller mark in a punch that's shapes

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rather like that.

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But that punch outline is typical for Italian makers

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and Italian marks.

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-Italy, right.

-And I can well assume that was made in Italy in the '50s

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into the early '60s.

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Good news and bad news.

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Probably, when your mother-in-law was wearing it,

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it actually wasn't in fashion, you know.

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It had gone completely out of it, it was all elegant jewellery.

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Now, the younger people, they like '50s and '60s, they like all this...

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I hate to say the words retro and vintage ever coming out of my mouth.

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-Yes, indeed.

-But this is the high-end of it.

-Yeah.

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So we look at it and we say

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there's an amount of gold there that's worth £100.

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You've got a couple of pearls there that are probably worth £50 to £100.

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So the best thing we can do is put it into auction

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with £200-300 on it.

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Are you happy that we pop it in for that?

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-That's fine.

-Why are you parting with it now, though?

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Cos you've wore it at least once.

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I've worn it once. The main reason is we wanted to come to "Flog It!"

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-We wanted...

-It's our fault!

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-We are responsible.

-We wanted a "Flog It!" experience.

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-Oh, well.

-My wife was left a lot of jewellery

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and that's the one that, you know...

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That's the piece that has very little sentimental attachments?

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-Absolutely, yes.

-Well, let's, I dare say, oh...

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It's a pun, but let's hope these two little chicks fly away

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-at the auction.

-Excellent.

-Thanks very much.

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-Thank you very much, Michael, thank you.

-Thank you, Michael.

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Leaving the tables for a moment, I've ascended to take a closer look

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at one of the cathedral's treasures.

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ORGAN MUSIC PLAYS

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Towering above our valuation tables is this vast organ.

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It was built in 1662 to commemorate the return of the monarchy

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after the English Civil War, during which time,

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the organ and the choir were silenced.

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I guess its size and its exuberant decoration reflect the joy

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of having music reinstated into the cathedral.

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It's definitely a statement piece.

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Well, the organist definitely has one of the best seats in the house.

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From up here, you get a completely different perspective

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of the building.

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Here, you have the choir with its vast vaulted ceiling

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and it's great east window, full of colour from the stained glass.

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And here, the nave with those gigantic Norman columns.

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But right now, it's time to catch up with our experts and hopefully

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Philip Serrell will be pulling out all the stops with his next item.

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Eileen, if I said to you, "Who was probably one of the most famous of

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"20th-century potters that there was in this country?"

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what name would you use?

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-I would say Bernard Leach every time.

-You would say Bernard Leach.

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-Yes.

-He was the man, wasn't he?

-He was.

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-And that's not by Bernard Leach, is it?

-No, it isn't, that's David.

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That's his son. I would think this is about mid-1950s.

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Yeah. Well, I had it as a wedding present in 1955.

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It's not going to be any later then, is it?

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-Can't be any later.

-We've narrowed it down.

-Can't be any later,

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but it might be earlier.

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And what's lovely, you can just see there, DL, can't you?

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Yeah, that's his moniker, yeah.

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David Leach. I mean, for 1950s, I think that's quite forward-thinking.

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Well, this is it.

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Most of Bernard Leach's pottery is very modern looking now.

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Yeah. When did you appreciate what it was?

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Oh, at the time. I knew all about...

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I was an art student when I was younger

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and I did know about pottery.

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I wasn't very successful myself, but I had learned

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quite a little bit about...

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You have a good eye

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and you can tell that from talking to you and listening to you.

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-And do you like it?

-I do, I love it.

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So why are you selling it?

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I'm not doing anything with it.

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I don't collect...

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..pottery. Somebody might.

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Somebody who likes to collect the Leaches, they might want it.

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-What do you think?

-I think it's a lovely thing.

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I'm not quite sure.

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It's sort of... This is...

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supposedly fixed to the wall, isn't it?

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Yes, we used to have it on the wall.

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-And that fits in there.

-That fits inside.

-Yeah.

-Yes.

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One thing we haven't discussed with this is

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-what it's going to make, have we?

-No.

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-Not a lot.

-Have you got any ideas?

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Well, I did have a valuation some months, six months or so ago.

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Oh, this is where I get all ears.

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And they said about 100.

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I think that I would estimate it at £80 to 120.

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I think the time's right for 20th century design.

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-I think it's a thing that's very in at the moment.

-Yeah.

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And our business is very driven by fashion.

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Some days, prices are there.

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-Yeah.

-And then the next day, it's down there.

-Yeah.

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That's it. It's knowing the right moment, isn't it?

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-This stuff is collectable. I have to say...

-Yes.

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-..if I owned this...

-You wouldn't bother with that.

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-..I'd probably consign that to the bin.

-No.

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Well, let's confirm then that we'll put it into auction.

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-OK.

-And we'll put an £80 to 120 estimate on it.

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-Right.

-And a fixed reserve of £80.

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-How's that?

-OK.

-Is that all right?

-Yep.

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It's been really lovely talking to you.

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-Nice talking to you, Philip.

-Thank you.

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-And we'll meet again.

-We will indeed.

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Well, we've all been working flat-out and, as you've just seen,

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our experts have found their first items to take off to the saleroom.

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This is where it gets exciting.

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Anything can happen, so don't go away.

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And here's a quick recap of the items

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that are going under the hammer.

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Philip's estimate is spot on for Margaret's set of

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early 20th-century seed measures.

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There are plenty of reasons to bid

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for this pretty pearl and enamelled brooch.

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And owning an original Bernard Leach is beyond most of our means,

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but Eileen's David Leach pot is an affordable alternative.

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For today's sale, we've travelled across the county to

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Moore, Allen & Innocent, situated just outside of Cirencester.

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Now, fingers crossed it's going to be packed inside,

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full of bidders wanting to go home with our lots.

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I know we're going to be assured of a warm welcome from the proprietor,

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and auctioneer, Philip Allwood.

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Let's catch up with our owners.

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The commission here today is 15%, plus VAT.

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And first up, it's Eileen's pot.

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-A little bit of David Leach.

-Yes.

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-Son of the grand master, Bernard Leach.

-Absolutely.

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-I mean, it's a great name in the history of studio pottery.

-It is.

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But there's something so contemporary looking about this.

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We talk a lot about good design and good shape and good form.

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And that's what you've got to look for and this has the lot.

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Right now, we're going to learn exactly what this goes for.

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It's going under the hammer right now.

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Let's hand things over to Philip Allwood.

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Who'll start me at 100? 50 to get on.

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At £30 bid only then, £30 bid.

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Five if you'd like now. £30, five.

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40. Five.

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At 45, 50 now.

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50. Five.

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At 55. 60 now.

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At £55.

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At 55. 60 anywhere?

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At £55. 60. 60.

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Five, then. At 65.

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Come on, we're selling this.

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At £65. On the book at 65. 70 anywhere?

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At £65. 70 anywhere?

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At 65.

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That one needs a little bit more, as well, ladies and gentlemen.

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-I can't believe that.

-I'm not surprised.

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-I can't believe that.

-I don't think the time is right.

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-I think it is.

-I do, as well.

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-You think it is?

-I think it's so right.

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Everybody is into that.

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-Look, we're sorry that didn't sell.

-That's all right, Paul.

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-Not to worry.

-I think that should go home.

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-I'm quite happy to take it home.

-Treasure it. It's a little joy.

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If I could get around better, I would look for more pieces

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-now and make a...

-Exactly.

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So Eileen's pot lives to play another day,

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whilst Julie and John's brooch takes the stage.

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Good luck, Julie and John.

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Fingers crossed we get this away at the top end.

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We're talking about the '50s cocktail jewellery.

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This has got an immense amount of work it, its enamel, it's pearl.

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It's not too everybody's taste,

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but this is the jewellery that younger people are starting to be

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interested in and hopefully they'll be bidding today.

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Italians 50. It's going under the hammer right now.

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At 150 bid. 150.

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160 now.

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At 150. 160 now, then.

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160. 170. 180, did you mean?

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180. 190. 200. At 200 at the back here.

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At 200. You're out on my left. At £200. It's on my right, now.

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-At £200.

-Spot on, Michael.

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-200.

-Hammer's gone down. £200.

-Thank you.

-He was spot on, wasn't he?

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-Well done, Michael.

-More by luck than judgment.

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Thank you so much.

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So those birds have flown the nest

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and now it's the set of seed measures

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belonging to Philip's number one fan, Margaret.

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OK, going under the hammer right now,

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my favourite lot in the whole sale. Literally in the whole sale.

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And there's around 900 lots here, Margaret.

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You've made my day.

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Philip spoilt it at the valuation.

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No, he didn't, actually. Had such a good time.

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I'm really pleased that you picked these,

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because I know you're a man like me who loves stuff like this.

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Why don't you want to keep these?

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-Well, I have kept them for a good while.

-Yeah.

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But I thought somebody else might like them for a change.

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-Well, they're divine.

-But I shall miss them.

-I bet you will.

-Yes.

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-They're so tactile.

-Yes.

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When you pick them up, you hold them and you go,

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"Someone's loved these for a long time."

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You say someone else might like them.

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There's two people here that would love them.

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Hey, look, good luck. Good luck.

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Fingers crossed, everyone. This is it.

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The grain measures and the Alder of Stroud seed pamphlets there.

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A good little lot this. Should be 100. Where are you going to be?

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Start me. 50 to get on, then. At 50, a bid there.

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Thank you. At 50. At £50.

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At five, if you like, now. Five. 60. Five. 70. Five.

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80. Five.

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-90.

-Come on.

-Five.

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100. 110. At 110.

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120 now. At 110 I have.

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At £110.

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All out in front of me, then, now. At £110.

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Are you all done?

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-Sold top end. That's good. We're happy?

-That's good.

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-Margaret, yes?

-Wonderful.

-They've gone.

-Thank you.

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And hopefully they've gone to a good home, a good collector.

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-Yes, yes.

-And they'll never be split up.

-Yes.

-Lovely.

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-Thank you very much.

-You made our day, anyway.

-Oh, good, I'm so glad.

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You made our day at the valuation, you put another smile on my face.

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-Yes, she's a lovely, lovely lady.

-Bless you.

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-Thank you so much.

-Lovely to see you. Bye-bye.

-Oh, bye-bye.

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If you've got anything like that, we want to see you.

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Bring it along to one of our valuation days,

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so you can be standing here just like Margaret,

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going home with a bit of money.

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We've had a tremendous turnout today

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and there's still a lot more to get through.

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Our experts are working flat out

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to find an item worthy of such surroundings.

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Let's catch up with them for our next item.

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Lucy, I think you've made not only my day,

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but my week and my month and my year...

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-Oh, my goodness.

-..by bringing in this chap here.

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-Right.

-Before I attempt to tell you anything about it...

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-Right.

-What's the provenance with it? What history do you have?

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Basically, it's a friend of mine who's actually 85,

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gave it to me about three years ago.

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I know it's from her friend, who gave it to her,

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and it belonged to her dad, who was a French sea captain.

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-It's a pot, obviously.

-Yes.

-Do you know any more about it?

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I thought it was a garden ornament, to be honest.

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-It's a garden ornament.

-That's as much as I know.

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Whenever I've been dragged down the garden centre,

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-I don't think I've ever seen a thing like this.

-Well, it's terracotta.

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If I had, I'd have bust out into a run, almost.

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It is terracotta, it's painted terracotta. A very simple thing.

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It's potted. It seems to be seamed along the edge here.

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So it possibly could have been moulded and put together.

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What I find most interesting, to begin with, is what's on the back.

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I know, I wondered that.

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And we've wondered what language it's written in.

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I thought it was French.

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Someone who knows Spanish thinks that they can decipher part of it.

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-Right.

-Which is "the gift to the captain".

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-Right.

-And I think, personally,

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-there's a date there which says about 1876.

-Really? Oh, my goodness.

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It also mentions a place name.

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Chichenable.

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-Right.

-Now that's not a million miles away

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from South American names of very old and ancient cities.

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-OK.

-And this is where this chap comes from.

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He's a pre-Columbian pot.

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-Really?

-So before Columbus went to America.

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Pre-Columbian pot.

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There were civilisations,

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there was the Zapotec and the Mayan civilisation.

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-Right.

-Which produced pots of this similar iconography.

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-We've got the earrings.

-Yeah, I thought that.

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-Yes.

-And then we've got, as a surmount on his hat,

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-this sort of monkey figurine.

-Yeah. Oh, gosh.

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Now, I didn't realise that was a monkey.

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-So he's a monkey - we assume - god.

-Yes. Oh, I didn't know that, either.

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And he's obviously a warrior,

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or he's preparing to take part in one of their vicious games.

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-Oh. Right. He's got a weapon, hasn't he?

-He's got his weapon.

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-Weapon, yeah.

-He's got his small shield. It's a fascinating thing.

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It would have been something

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that would have been buried for a long time.

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So, how old do you think it is, then?

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Potentially, it could be 600 to 1,000 years old.

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No! I can't believe it.

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Not to excite you too much, a lot of this stuff does survive.

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-Right, OK.

-You know, they dig it up in South America and Mexico

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-quite a lot.

-Right.

-And we are not able today to tell you precisely

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-which culture it belongs to.

-OK.

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And what the date is. We can say it's pre-Columbian.

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But it's fascinating.

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And we've got a pot on this table which is...

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..possibly as old as the building we're sitting in.

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-I'm gobsmacked, to be honest with you.

-It's not a garden ornament.

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-Don't put it in the garden.

-I thought it had a bit of age.

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But, you know, not quite that much age.

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-I think that's putting it mildly, don't you?

-Yes.

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Value. It deserves a decent valuation.

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-£200 to 400.

-OK.

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Reserve of £200. So if you're happy...

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-I'm very happy.

-..to put your garden pot...

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-I am very happy.

-..in the auction.

-..to put it in the auction.

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I'm very happy you came along today.

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That's brilliant. Well, thank you very much.

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-No, thank you. And thank him.

-Yes, brilliant.

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-And let's hope he's a benevolent fellow.

-I hope so.

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We'll see you at the auction.

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-That will be great. That would be brilliant. Thank you.

-A pleasure.

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Well, that's a "Flog It!" first. A bit of pre-Columbian pottery.

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Isn't that lovely? Look at this.

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And it still works. Good luck with that.

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Finally, it's Michael and a gleaming Art Nouveau bowl.

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Joy, thank you for bringing in this very intriguing and beautifully

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polished bowl. What can you tell me about it?

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It belongs to my mother-in-law, who's had it, I think,

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since probably about the 1960s.

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-Oh.

-She used to use it when she was entertaining,

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and used it to serve bread, and so on.

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-Oh, lovely.

-She hasn't used it for many years now and has now decided

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she'd like to sell it.

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When she had it, as far as you know, was it all polished like this?

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She polished it before she handed it over to us,

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I'm not sure she was meant to do that.

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Right. No, well we'll get back to that later,

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because that raises an interesting point.

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We've obviously got an Art Nouveau pewter bowl.

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And if we flip it over, there's one name we want to see...

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..which is Liberty. And there we go.

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"English pewter, made by Liberty & Co."

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It would be nice if it said Tudric. Which is the...

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..range name for pewter made for Liberty & Co,

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but this may predate that,

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because we've got a very early Liberty patent number.

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-Right.

-0535.

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-And they will relate to a specific designer.

-Right.

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But the name you look for and hope for is Archibald Knox.

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That gifted Isle of Man designer.

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-And this is a Knox piece.

-We thought so.

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And when you look at it, you can see his use of entrelac motifs.

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These Celtic knots and of nature,

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absolutely entwining with one another.

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Very intricate and pierced. Lovely thing.

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Now, this is exactly how it would have looked at Liberty's

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when it was sold in about 1900, 1905.

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-That old. Right.

-But, pewter...

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Basically, it was made to simulate silver.

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It was that planished, polished pewter.

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Over time, pewter discolours and it goes a very dark grey.

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There are two schools of thought about what you do.

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The purists would never have you touch it.

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They want it in utterly original condition, so from Liberty's,

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untouched until today, and they're very dark pewter bodies.

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The other school of thought is,

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well, Knox didn't design them like that,

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he meant that they should be polished and shiny.

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So what your mother-in-law has done is very much in keeping with Knox's

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original thoughts and designs,

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it just affects the value ever so slightly with collectors.

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I think we would be sensible if we said...

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..120 up to about £180.

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Fixed reserve of 120.

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And we'll hope that all the people that like polished Knox are there on

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the sale day and it goes above that.

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-Do you think she will be happy with that?

-I hope so, yes.

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Marvellous, marvellous. We'll do that and I hope, on the day,

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that we get maybe up to that £200 mark for her.

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-But thank you very much for bringing this in.

-Thank you.

-Pleasure.

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Well, sadly, it's time to leave Gloucester Cathedral

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and its centuries of history as we head back to the saleroom.

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I've got my favourites.

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You've probably got yours, but right now it's down to the bidders.

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Here's a quick recap of what's going under the hammer.

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Well, I've never seen a pre-Columbian

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monkey warrior terracotta pot before.

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It should create a buzz in the saleroom.

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To shine or not to shine? The eternal debate.

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Will the bidders decide in the saleroom?

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First up, it's Joy's Art Nouveau pewter bowl.

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Going under the hammer right now, a bit of Archibald Knox, yes.

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It's that wonderful early Liberty's bowl belonging to Joy.

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In fact it's mother-in-law's, isn't it?

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And you're selling this on her behalf.

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A great name. Everyone loves his designs.

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Probably Liberty's best known designer.

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-Synonymous with Liberty's, really.

-Absolutely.

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Fingers crossed, anyway. Let's hope we get the top end.

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It's going under the hammer right now. Good luck. This is it.

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The Archibald Knox for Liberty dish here.

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Start me at 100. That would be cheap, wouldn't it?

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£100, a bid there. Thank you. At £100 on my right, now.

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100. 110 on my left. At 120. At 120 on my right, now.

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120 here. At 120. Lady's bid at 130.

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140. 150. 160. 170. 180.

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At 180. Lady's bid at 180.

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190, back in.

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At 190. 200.

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At 200. The lady's bid at 200. 220 now?

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At £200. Right in front of me now, then.

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Lady's bid at 200.

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Yes. Nice round figure. £200. That's brilliant. Wasn't it? Very happy.

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-He never lets us down, does he?

-No, he doesn't.

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We caught up with the new owner

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before she left with her happy purchase.

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It's a very nice piece of...

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..Art Nouveau pewter, and what I particularly liked about it

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was the simplicity of it, and of course its age.

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And I just thought, "Got to have it."

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I think it was a fair price.

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There was a bit of a battle going on for it.

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But I'm not one to give in when I really like something, so I didn't.

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Now, for Lucy's pre-Columbian figure.

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Before the sale, I asked Philip,

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the auctioneer, what he thought about it.

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It's very hard to be absolutely certain

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about these things when they come into a sale.

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There are a lot of these pieces produced through the 18th,

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19th, and well into the 20th and 21st century.

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So I was very glad to have a true verification

0:28:470:28:51

given for this piece by relevant specialists.

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I would expect it to be fairly keenly contested,

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but only to a level.

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Well, that only adds to the intrigue of this item.

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Here it is now.

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OK, the moment I have been waiting for

0:29:050:29:07

since that valuation day in that wonderful cathedral.

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I mean, that was an old building,

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but I think what we're selling right now has to be,

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I think you will agree, the oldest thing on the show so far.

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-Yes.

-Which Michael spotted. Thank you for bringing it in.

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It's an absolute pleasure.

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On the day, we said it might be 15th century or earlier.

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-Yes.

-Well, we've done subsequent research.

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It's a lot earlier. It's the first pre-Columbian civilisation.

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So this is quite exciting. You can learn so much on this show.

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-You do.

-What do you think of this, Lucy? Now you want to keep it?

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Well, it makes you feel a bit strange about it,

0:29:350:29:37

because it is so old, you know. I'm fascinated. I'm fascinated.

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It's the most perplexing and intriguing object

0:29:400:29:45

we've ever had on "Flog It!"

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-Certainly I've ever seen.

-That's brilliant.

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I'm thrilled. I'm so excited. I hope somebody really wants it.

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Anyway, look, it's up there, right now.

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-This is your lot going under the hammer.

-Fingers crossed.

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Don't go away, don't make a cup of tea. Watch this. Here we go.

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The warrior with the sword and shield there, Northern Peru.

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Nice and early, between 100 and 800 AD.

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And I have to start you here on the book at £200.

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At 200, I'm bid here. At 200. 220 now, if you like.

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At £200. A good early piece.

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At 220. 240.

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260. 280. 300. 320.

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-They want it.

-340. 360.

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At 360. 380, now.

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At 360 here. At £360.

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-He's going to sell at 360.

-Are you all sure at 360?

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Yes. Hammer's gone down. Good valuation, Michael.

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Well, it's the top end of our estimate.

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-Yes. Absolutely.

-The only thing is,

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you see these pots make a lot more money when the glazes are intact.

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-Yes.

-Because the glazes on these, when they're just excavated,

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are like chocolate and they're shining.

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So it's had 130 years of wear.

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It might have been out in the garden for some of that.

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It's an absolutely fascinating piece of history.

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That is a little document of social history from Peru.

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-It is, absolutely.

-Has it made you think, "Oh, actually,

0:31:000:31:03

"I should really gen up on this a bit more and read about it?"

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Yeah, because you don't know anything about these things, do you?

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Until, well, I thought...

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-Until you met up with Michael at the valuation day.

-Exactly.

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It started me off on a whole round of reading

0:31:120:31:14

and research and you just look at them and it's so fascinating.

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If you've got something like that, we want to flog it!

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It's been a terrific day and we've seen some weird and wonderful items

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and met some delightful people.

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And I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have.

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From all of us here in Gloucester, until the next time, it's goodbye.

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