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MUSIC: Flute Concerto No 2 in D Major by Mozart | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
What do you do when you have a big collection of fine art and antiques | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
and nowhere to put them? | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
Well, the answer is, you build a museum | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
and that's exactly what John and Josephine Bowes did in County Durham, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
back in the 19th century. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Welcome to the Bowes Museum and welcome to "Flog It!" | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
The exterior of the Bowes Museum looks like a French town hall | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
and the reason for this is that Josephine Bowes was French, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
so they designed and built it in the French style, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
using metric measurements | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
which must have confused the local builders no end. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
John, who was the illegitimate son of the 10th Earl of Strathmore, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
had met Josephine, an actress, in Paris. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
They fell in love, married | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
and set about indulging their shared love of collecting. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
And we can see the fruits of their passion here at the museum - | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
the hundreds of paintings, the collection of fine French furniture | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
and all manner of fascinating objects from all over Europe. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
But now, it's time to get to the front of the building, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
where a large queue is eagerly waiting. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
Could there be anywhere more appropriate for our experts | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
to make their valuations | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
than this temple of fine art and antique collecting? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Hundreds of people have turned up, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
laden with their own antiques and collectibles. Yes, look! | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
And, hopefully, one or two will be going home | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
delighted with the news of what our experts will have to say | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
and you might make a small fortune in auction - but not you, madam! | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
But right now, there's only one question on everybody's lips, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
-which is... CROWD: -What's it worth? -Stay tuned and you'll find out. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
Preparing herself to provide the answers | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
is auctioneer Elizabeth Talbot. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
This is lovely. A little Bunnykins bowl. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
And that is just the sort of weather I'd love to be having now. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
That's beautiful. We'll have a look inside. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
And joining her today | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
is knowledgeable antiques expert Paul Laidlaw. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
-Very pleasing, very pleasing. And... -CLEAR RINGING | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
..no problems with that at all. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
Well, we can't keep the people waiting. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
The crowd is already making their way up through the museum | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
to the valuation tables and later on, we'll be exploring | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
more of the fabulous collections housed in the Bowes Museum. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
But first, let's have a look at some of the things that are coming up | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
that give today's show a European flavour. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
-We have Russian silver. -It's been in pride of place in the cabinet? -No. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
-It's been wrapped in tissue in the attic. -Oh, has it? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Paul Laidlaw has a rare Italian find. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
-I tell you what, it's a scarce object. -Really? | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
These do not turn up so very often at all. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
And I find myself converted to the beauty of handmade lace from Venice. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:20 | |
And the museum here has many rare and early examples in its collection, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
like this one. It's a beautiful deep collar of raised needle lace. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
We've set up our valuation tables in one of the fine picture galleries | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
and here we are, surrounded by fine works of art | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
from artists from all over the world. It's quite incredible. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
But there's one artist I want to point out to you. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
Up there, those large 19th-century French landscapes | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
are by Josephine Bowes herself. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
She was an incredibly talented artist. They're beautifully executed. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
There is one picture which stands out for me, though, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
and it's the great British bull up there. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
That's definitely not Josephine's taste, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
more the taste of her husband, John. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
But right now, we're interested in the taste of our experts. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
Let's take a closer look at what they've found | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
at the valuation tables. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
Elizabeth is starting us off | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
with a piece of silver which is a long way from home. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
Lovely to meet you. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
Thank you so much for bringing your lovely little cup. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-Tell me what you know about it. -Well, it was a family item. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
It belonged to my grandfather first and then my mother | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
and when she died, it passed on to me. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
And you've treasured it and prized it, have you, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
-and it's been in pride of place in the cabinet? -No. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
-It's been wrapped in tissue in the attic. -Oh, has it? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Hence, probably, why it's in such lovely condition. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
It's really pristine, isn't it? What do you know of it as an object? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Well, until I came here, I didn't have a clue what it was | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
-and I was told it was a Russian vodka cup. -Mmm-hmm. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
Yes, it is Russian, very distinctively Russian. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
One of the factors which makes it so distinctive | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
is the way it's been decorated. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:01 | |
-First of all, the view on it is of the Kremlin. -Right. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Which is a bit of a giveaway. But this black on silver - | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
this is a very specific form of decoration | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
which the Russians prize themselves in. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
-It's called niello work. N-I-E-L-L-O. -Yeah. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
It's a combination of sulphides of copper, silver and lead | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
which makes this rich black colour | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
which they can rub into a surface which has been predecorated. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
-Oh, right. -It makes the engraved decoration stand out, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
almost like a lined drawing, an engraving. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
That makes it very distinctive. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:33 | |
It was made between about 1899 and 1917. It's that sort of period. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
That would be about the time | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
my grandfather had his business in Berlin | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
-where he was a master jeweller. -Really? Oh, wow. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
And he had a big shop in Berlin, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
so it might have been amongst his stock there. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
I think it's lovely and I really like it. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
We don't see so very much Russian artefacts in this country. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
-There are pockets of it, but always lovely quality. -Yeah. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
-Presumably, you have little idea of its actual value. -None at all. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Generally, there is a huge collectors' market | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
for Russian silver and, of course, Russia and its economy, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
being as strong as it is, there is a lot of interest | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
from the homeland of people looking to buy back | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
or to collect their own traditional artefacts, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
so it's a good time to be selling it, I think. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Do you want to guess what it might be worth? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
No idea, really. Not at all. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
I would think that it would be worth in the region of about £150-£200, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
-would be my estimate for auction. -Goodness, yeah. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-That's not a bad price. -Is that all right? -Yeah. -OK? | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
In which case, if we place a reserve on it for you. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
£150 reserve, estimate of £150-£200 and we'll just see. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
If it's protected with a reserve, it'll just find its feet. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
-Thank you. -It's good of you to come in. Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
In such splendid condition, we should have a good shot at selling that. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Paul, next, who has also come across some family items. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Hi, Ann, Chris, how are you? You come armed. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
There's got to be a great story behind these objects. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
The ceremonial sword was brought home from the Second World War | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
-by my dad. He was in the Royal Navy on landing craft. -I see. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
-Before the war, he was trained as a telegraphist... -Yes. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
-..and he worked on a newspaper. -Right. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
He volunteered for the air force but they put him in the navy | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
because he could do the Morse code. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
He was over the moon about that. He wasn't! | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
-I think he was seasick most of the war. -Yeah. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Anyway, somehow he came by this when he was in Italy | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
and he brought it home with him at the end of the war | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
and it's been in our family ever since. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
But most recently, just on the shelf. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:31 | |
Most recently on a bedroom shelf, really. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
-I don't know where else you're going to put your dress dagger. -Yeah. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
-As far as I know, it's a ceremonial sword. -Absolutely is. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
So, that's that, but a generation before, someone earned these medals. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
These belonged to HIS father, my grandfather, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
who was a stetcher-bearer, a medic, in the First World War. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Wonderful. Two generations. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
We have, here, the British War Medal and Allied Victory Medal. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
Anyone that served in the First World War | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
would be entitled to these, so we can imagine | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
the hundreds of thousands, millions that circulate, OK. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
What I like about the Victory Medal is this fabulous ribbon here | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
bears the colours from all the flags | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
of the allies during the First World War. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
It's a poignant remembrance, so far as I'm concerned. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
-Now, I did hint on huge numbers that are out there. -Yeah. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
And all of the corps of these, the non-regimental - the artillery, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
-the engineers, the medical corps - they're pretty unloved. -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
Everyone respects what these represent | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
but there are a great deal out there and they command modest sums. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
This little pair here, medical corps, get £20-£40 in auction. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
And there's nothing you or I can do about that. That's the going rate. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Look, the guy survived the war, which is lovely, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
and one of his sons survived the Second World War, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
applying for the RAF, ending up landing craft. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Well, it could have been invasion of Sicily, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
and at some point, he probably traded this | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
-for cigarettes or whatever. -Yeah. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
I thought I remember him saying he won it at a card game, but... | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
There you go. No, that's entirely plausible. What is it? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
Well, it's actually a pre-war | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Italian air force cadet's dress sidearm, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
represented here by the crossguard modelled as wings. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
-I tell you what, it's a scarce object. -Really? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
These do not turn up so very often at all | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
and there's a very healthy demand for such. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
Value-wise, I'd suggest £150-£200 under the hammer, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
-which is a pretty healthy little sum. -Yeah. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
I'm hoping that you would like to take this to auction | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
-and see what comes of it. -Yeah. -Yes. -And the medals, likewise? | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
-Absolutely. -Yeah. -Well, two separate lots, I'd advise that for sure. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
Different markets, different collector base. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
£20-£40 on our medical corps Great War pair, £20 reserve. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
And the dagger, £150-£200's our estimate, £150 reserve, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
and we are aiming for the sky. We hope for good results. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
-Sounds good. -That's great, thanks. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
Won in a card game. What a good story! | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
Now, we step back in time to the style of the 1940s. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
Thank you so much for coming in and bringing a beautiful brooch, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
which we will talk about in a little while, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
but I must, first, acknowledge your wonderful attire. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
-I think your outfit's stunning. -Thank you. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
-Is this how you always dress? -It is, yes. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
-I just enjoy this era immensely. -Well, you wear it very well. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
-It's lovely. -Thank you. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
-You obviously appreciate jewellery as well. -Yes. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Which is why we have in front of us this little brooch. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
So, what is the story behind your brooch? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Well, it was from a neighbour when they were clearing the house | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
and they know I enjoy jewellery and I do appreciate the piece | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-but it's not from my era, obviously. -But nonetheless, it's very pretty | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
and it does date from the late Victorian period. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
It isn't hallmarked but stylistically, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
it dates itself quite precisely to the late 19th century. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
I would strongly assume that that is gold. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
I think, if it were tested, it would prove to be gold and it is set | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
with this lovely little fly with turquoise, ruby and small diamonds. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
The Victorians loved their insect-related jewellery. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
I know other eras did as well, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
but certainly the Victorians loved it. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
This is a bar brooch which could be worn on a collar or a tie. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
It could be used in different ways or on a lapel it would look nice. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
It is a very wearable piece of jewellery | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
and looks surprisingly modern | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
because the simplicity of the bar sets the fly off nicely. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
If you were to sell it, would you then be reinvesting it | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-in your collection of something else? -Definitely. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
Is that a silly question? | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
-Do you have any idea of value at all? -Not really sure. -No? -No. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
Strangely enough, bar brooches are not as valuable as they once were | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
and as one might expect they would be, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
but I think that for a piece that's that pretty and works that well, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
it should fetch in between £80 and £120. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
-So, would you be happy to sell at that level? -That would be fine. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
So, if we put it in auction at £80 to £120 | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
and protect it by a reserve of £80 at the bottom end? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
-Yeah, that would be fine. -Fixed or with discretion? | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
-With discretion. -OK, the auctioneer will get as close as he could, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
but just for the sake of not selling it, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
just one bid beneath, he'd let it go. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
-But I still think you outshine it, I'm afraid. -Thank you. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
You have my vote. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
What a glamorous look. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
Now, I'm not sure about Paul's next choice though. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
Catherine, tell me about them. Where do these hail from? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Well, I inherited them. They've been in the family for... | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
They must've been in a cupboard for 100 years. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
These are uncommon. They're strange! | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Yes, and this one, if you twirl it around, it makes music. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
-Can we? Does it? -Yes, yes! | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
Yes! | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
-TWINKLING MUSIC-BOX MUSIC PLAYS -Oh, my word! -Yeah. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Yeah, I get it and I see the mechanism. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
There are teeth on the end of that handle. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
-It's striking a comb.... -Yes. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
-..on the inside of her drum-like body there. -Uh-huh. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
And I've got to say, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
-is that a whistle on the end of the handle? -Oh, I don't know! | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
-Oh, if it is I... -That's what it looks like to me. -Yes! | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Now, what can I tell you about her? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
I concur on age | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
because we are certainly into the tail end of the 19th century. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
Right, right. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:21 | |
I've referred to bisque-headed dolls previously, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
and I can tell you that this is an early composition. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-A plastic, OK? -Mm-hm, mm-hm. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
-This is quite modern technology in its day. -Right. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
Arguably less expensive than a porcelain head. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
However, there are refinements. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
She's got glass eyes, an open mouth and teeth, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
and those are high-end features on any doll of this time. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
She is refined, and she was not inexpensive. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
Now, I mean, so if this is a... Can you trace this to an ancestor? | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
Um, possibly. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
-It's a guess that... It's my guess, it's probably German. -Right. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
Er, because my great-great-grandfather | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
was a businessman who exported, er, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
textile machinery to Germany and had a factory there as well | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
and I suspect he brought it back for his, er... | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
children or his granddaughter. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Now her friend... Well, if this little girl is a rich girl, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
on the other hand, I think we're looking | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
at the other end of the social spectrum here. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
Er, a black lady in her original dress, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
and it looks like what she'd be wearing | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
if she was West African or West Indian, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
with the head wrap, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
but a Victorian printed textile band decorating the dress | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
and she is made of... | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
-she's fabric-stuffed. -Uh-huh. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
Yeah, but, look, little black glass bead eyes | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
and the wee pursed lips stitched on. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
I think she's utterly charming | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
and I'll wager she is as rare a survivor as her upmarket friend, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:57 | |
because I suspect she wasn't overly expensive... | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
-100-odd years ago. -Yeah. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
What do they do for you? Do you like them? | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
Absolutely nothing. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
I could see £100-£200 in these. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
That's not a lot of money and you're getting, in my opinion... | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
-rare dolls. -Yes. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
-Are they definitely going? -Yes. -Yeah? | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Because I have no use for them or no desire to keep them. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
-I'd say, if you get north of 80... -Mm-hm. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
-..we're in business. -OK. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
-But I'm hoping for £1-200. -Really? Mm-hm. -Sound OK? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Catherine, it looks like we're in business. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
And bye-bye, the dolls. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
I really hope Paul is right with his valuation. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
It's time for me to take the opportunity | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
for a look around the area. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
The Battle of Towton was the key conflict in a series | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
of gruelling campaigns that dominated medieval England | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
during a 30-year period known as the War of the Roses. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
They were so called after the red rose of the House of Lancaster, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
and the white rose, the emblem of the House of York. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
These were two warring lines of the same royal family, the Plantagenets. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
Henry VI, the ruling king at the time of the battle, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
was the head of the House of Lancaster. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
Having lost most of England's territories | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
in France in the mid-1400s, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
he suffered periods of mental illness, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
which made him unfit to rule as the King of England. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
However, he was married to Margaret of Anjou, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
who was a strong, fiery character | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
described by Shakespeare as "the she-wolf of France". | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
It was Margaret who raised the army of Lancastrians | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
to fight the Yorkists, but what drove her to this march to war? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
Well, the reasons are quite complex, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
but basically it boils down to the fact | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
that she wanted her son to be heir to the throne and rule the country. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
Standing in the way of her ambition | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
was the tall, good-looking, 19-year-old Edward, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
head of the House of York, the white roses. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
He was the cousin of King Henry VI, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
and, having been backed by Parliament, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
he had a legitimate claim to the crown | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
and was marching north from London. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
In 1460, the English Parliament passed an Act of Accord, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
letting York and his line succeed Henry to the throne. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
They recognised the legitimate right the family had, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
so they declared Edward the King. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
With two living Kings, the whole country was now divided | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
between these two branches of the Plantagenets. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Almost every man of noble birth had gathered his men | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
and was preparing for battle. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
Edward was here at Pontefract, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
with his army of tens of thousands of men, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
on his way to secure his throne | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
by victory over his rivals in battle. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
In the medieval times, | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
it was the only sure sign of the will of God. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
On the 28th of March, 1461, a bitterly cold day, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
Edward and his army set off north from here, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
to meet the Lancastrian troops. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
So, the scene was set | 0:18:17 | 0:18:18 | |
for one of the bloodiest battles in English history. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
To find out more, we have to visit the site of the battle itself. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
Which is situated near the village of Towton in Yorkshire. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
I'm meeting up with the archaeologist Tim Sutherland, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
who, over 500 years after the event, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
has been unearthing extraordinary discoveries that tell us more | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
about this monumental moment in British history. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Tim, can you tell me what happened on the 29th of March, 1461? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
-Right, we've got Yorkist army coming up from London. -Yeah. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
And they're arriving from the south. They appear on that horizon there. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-Yeah. -And the Lancastrians coming on this horizon from York, basically. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
And when they meet here, they clash hand-to-hand, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
but before that, there's an arrow storm, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
an arrow engagement where the... | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
the two armies are significantly far apart, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
where they can only attack each other by arrow. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
SOUNDS OF BATTLE | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
But the wind is in the faces of the Lancastrians, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
it's blowing from the south, as it is today. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
-What that means is that... -They had the advantage. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
-The arrows from the Yorkists are actually going further. -Yeah. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
And they can actually put them inside the Lancastrian army, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
whereas the Lancastrians are shooting their arrows south | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
and they're falling short. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
What that means is, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
the Yorkists have already got an significant advantage. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Officially, the death toll is 28,000, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
which is almost inconceivable. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
BATTLE SOUNDS INTENSIFY | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
And then, towards the end of the battle, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
we get the Duke of Norfolk arriving behind us here | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and arriving on the flank of the battlefield. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
-And of course the Lancastrian army see this... -Yeah. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
And then they think, "Right, that's it, I'm off," | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
and then they're starting to flee. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Then, of course, it's basically a massive big drop into a river. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
And so, of course, people would have been tumbling down into the river, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
and, although it's only a very narrow river today, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
you'd be wearing massive padded jacks and armour | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
-and this, that and the other. -Yeah, and leather. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
-So trying to cross a swollen river... -Mm. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
..would have been a nightmare. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
-Ugh. -So again, a significant number of people get killed. -Gosh. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
So, Edward and the Yorkists won the battle. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
What have you found and is this dig still going on? | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
Literally, over the last few days, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
-we've been finding teeth. -Teeth. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
Teeth. Human teeth. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
After it's been ploughed for the first time in a year, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
we start to find human teeth. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
And if it's too muddy, and the mud's too sticky, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
then, of course, it sticks to the teeth | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
and any other artefacts and we can't see anything. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
-Yeah, what about arrowheads? -We found, significantly, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
I mean, these are very, very rare on the medieval battlefield, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
in fact, they're unique in England, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:01 | |
and when you find them in the ground, they look like that. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
That doesn't look, I wouldn't look at that and say it's an arrowhead. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
No, it doesn't look like an arrowhead. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
And it's only when you analyse them closely, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
-and these have been chopped in half and then polished. -OK. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
And you can see how they've been made. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
They used to think that they fire braised, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
-fire welded them in a blacksmith's forge. -OK. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
What we're finding now | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
is these have actually been welded together with copper alloy. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
It's manufactured in a completely new way, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
and every time you have a battle, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:29 | |
you need hundreds of thousands of these arrowheads. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
So, of course, you've got to replenish them | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
and what we're tending to believe now | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
is that this is an early form of mass production. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
Right, it's a factory system, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:38 | |
-not by a professional blacksmith then, but... -No. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
..probably by several different people. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Once they're out of the soil, they don't last long. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
So we've incorporated these into the plastic | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
so we can preserve them and analyse them, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
but, once they're out of the ground, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
they literally might last a year before they crumble into dust. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
With your hard work and your colleagues' work, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
this must have added an awful lot of gravity | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
to the battle here at Towton. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
I think why this is important, is that | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
we've introduced new concepts to medieval battlefield archaeology. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
Er, we've discussed and proven | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
that medieval arrows were manufactured in a different way. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
We've managed to work out that you can actually find | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
physical evidence of a medieval battle. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Everyone thought that was impossible before, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
but we managed to prove it, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:20 | |
and so, by studying this landscape, we can actually pick out things, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
answer the right questions and hopefully provide some answers. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
The sheer scale of the battle, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
and the fact that the outcome saw one king of England | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
and his line replace another, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
makes the Battle of Towton of the greatest importance. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
Edward went on to be a good ruler | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
and the country benefited under his reign, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
but, looking at the amount of bloodshed, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
one can only be thankful that democracy | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
has replaced the rule of the sword. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
The auction is beckoning. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
But before we go, let's have another look at what we're taking with us. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
The silver shot glass is from Russia. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
Let's hope the bidders are going to love it. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
These two dolls are not my taste, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
but I recognise they are unusual. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
And they are therefore likely to appeal to the collectors. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
Two military lots next - medals from the First World War... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
..and a rare ceremonial dagger, dating from the Second World War. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
And our last lot is the elegant gold brooch which has a lot of style, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
just like its owner. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
We're heading west, across the Yorkshire Dales, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
to the glorious South Lakeland, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
which is home to Eighteen Eighteen Auctioneers, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
a business that has been going since - | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
yes, you guessed it - 1818. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Remember, if you are buying or selling in an auction room, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
there is commission to pay. Now here, at Eighteen Eighteen Auctioneers, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
it's 20%, including VAT. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
But these commissions do vary from saleroom to saleroom, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
so check the details. It's all printed in the catalogue. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
If you're unsure, ask a member of staff. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Don't get caught out when that hammer goes down. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
And we have two auctioneers looking after us today - | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
David Brookes and Kevin Kendal. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
And we have a dazzling start to our sales. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
Right now, I'm going to take you straight back to the 1940s. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
Here we go. Look at that. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
-Here's Beverly and doesn't she look fabulous? -Stunning! | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
You always look great, I've got to say that. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
And now, it comes to your brooch, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
so it's a wonderful thing and I think this is gold, don't you? | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
-I do. -It's got some pretty stones on it. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Yes, it has and it's beautifully crafted. The finishing is all nice. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
It's not just a piece of cheap costume jewellery. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
A lot of effort and skill has gone into making it. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
And I guess, if you sell this, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
-the money's all going towards more costumes, is it? -Definitely. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Let's put it under the hammer. Here we go. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Yellow metal bar brooch with a fly motif. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Rather nice, set with ruby, turquoise and diamonds. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
£100 if you like for it. £100, surely. Start me at 80 then. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
-£80, thank you, sir. -That's good. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
80 bid. 80 bid. 5 anywhere? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
I've got one bid at 80 only. I'm looking for 5s now. 5 anywhere? | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
£80, the one and only bid. I'm going to sell then. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
Are you all done this time? At 80. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
HE BANGS GAVEL | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
-Maiden bid. -Maiden bid. It's gone at £80. -That's fine. -That's OK. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
-That's money in the bank for more clothes. -It is, yes. -Simple as that. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
I wonder what Beverly will buy with the money. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
Next, we have two lots steeped in history. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Going under the hammer right now, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
something I've never seen on the show before. I think this is quite rare. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
It's a wonderful Italian dress dagger. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
Paul, our expert, found this and it belongs to Chris and Ann. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
Now, Ann cannot be with us today, Chris. Where is she? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
She's up in Newcastle. She's recording an album for a charity. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
But hopefully, if anything goes on the dagger, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
-it will go towards the production costs. -Brilliant! | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
I like stories like that and I like this dagger. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
-It's a very rare thing. -Yeah. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
It's the only one I've seen come on the market in donkey's years. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
Let's find out what the bidders think. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
It's going under the hammer right now. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
Italian air cadet's ceremonial dagger. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
Can I start then at £110 for a start. 100? I'll start at 80 then. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
£80 we'll go. £80 bid. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
Any interest on the net? 85. 90. 5. 100 now. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
100. 110 anywhere? 100. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
I'll take 10s anywhere. £100. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Are we all done this time? No, at 100. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
This is reserved. I'm afraid we're going to have to pass that today. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Gosh, that's a blow. But we have two lots | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
and all the money from the medals is going towards production costs. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
Fingers crossed with that as well. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
Here we go. Let's find out what they're worth. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
The First World War medal pair. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
What can I ask for this for a start? £20. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
£20, thank you. £20, straight in on the net. 22. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
-There's no reserve on these, is there? -No. -25. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
-Come on, this is more like it. -28. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Hugely undervalued, these. 28. 28. 30 anywhere? 28. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
-£28, going this time then. -HE BANGS GAVEL | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
-Hammer's gone down at £28. -You need the money. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
-Yeah. -That's on the money. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
I think the dagger, too obscure. Find yourself a specialist... | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
-Militarist. -And I think you'll beat your expectations, OUR expectations. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
-Smashing. Yeah, well, it's worth doing. -Yeah, all is not lost. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
Get it into a specialist militaria sale, as Paul says, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
and, hopefully, the proceeds will go towards those recording costs. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
That's great. That's great. Hopefully. Thanks very much. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
What a shame the dagger didn't sell. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:46 | |
But it was worth protecting with a reserve. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
Now, here's a rare lot. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
Catherine, it's good to see you again, and good luck today. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Going under the hammer right now, we have those two dolls, 19th century. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
-One is French, one is African. -Yes. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
I think there's a connection between both. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
The African one could be Mozambiquean, something like that. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
It's got that French connection. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
I personally find dolls spooky... PAUL L LAUGHS | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
..but I know there's a lot of collectors out there. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
-That one's particularly spooky, given the... -Very much. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
HE ROLLS HIS TONGUE | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
Not for me. But, as I said, there's a lot of collectors out there. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
-Fingers crossed they're here. -Yes. -Good luck. -OK. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
It's going under the hammer right now. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:23 | |
The vintage jester, and also the other doll in the lot there, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
-start me 50. -We've got a fixed reserve of 80. -Mm-hm, mm-hm. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
Any interest at £50? | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-Thank you, £50 in the doorway. -Yes, £50. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
-£50 we have bid at the back. -No. -No. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
55 on the internet. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
Bidding 60. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
-65 on the internet. -Come on. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:44 | |
£70 in the doorway. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
No further interest, £70. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
It's against you at 75. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:49 | |
Do you want to bid 80? | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
-Thank you, £80. -We've got it. -Oh, got it, good. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
£80 in the doorway. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
In the doorway, 80, and we will now sell at the £80... | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
GAVEL BANGS | 0:28:58 | 0:28:59 | |
Good auctioneering. Good auctioneering. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Cor, that was close, wasn't it? | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
Right on that fixed reserve of £80. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
Brilliant. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
They've gone. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
But they made it, which is the main thing. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
The next lot may be small but it is in immaculate condition. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
Good luck. We're just about to sell the Russian shot glass. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
-It's been in your family a little while. -Yes. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
It's good quality, isn't it, hence the value. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
The Russian buyers do buy quite heavily | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
-and they will like this kind of thing. -Hopefully. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
-We're on the internet. -Hopefully, they'll pick up our reference. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
-It's easily postable in bubble wrap and a little box. -Yes. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
So it's got everything going for it. Let's put it under the hammer. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
Russian silver vodka shot glass. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
Again, various commissions. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
I'm going to have to start the bidding at 130, 140...£150. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
-Ooh. -Straight in. -With me at 150. -Straight in and sold. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
160, 170, 180. Commission's out. 180 in the room. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
190 on the internet. 200 in the room. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
220 on the internet. 240 in the room. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
240 in the room. Have we finished? It's your bid, sir, at 240. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
-I don't think there's anything going. -In the room here at £240. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
-Hey, worth toasting that one. -Brilliant. Better than I thought. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
Well, you know why, don't you? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
That was quality and we keep saying it on the show. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
-Our experts always say it. Quality always... -Sells. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
That's the end of our first visit to the saleroom and so far, so good. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
Some happy owners and that's what it's all about. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
We are coming back here later on in the programme, so don't go away. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
There could be one or two big surprises. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
But right now, it's time to turn our attentions | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
to one of the Bowes Museum's most recent collections | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
and what a treasure trove it is! | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
MUSIC: Gnossienne Number One by Erik Satie | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
In 2006, the Bowes Museum was given | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
a world-class collection of antique lace. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
It had been collected over 50 years | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
by father and son Anthony and Arthur Blackborne, | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
19th-century lace dealers. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
The museum accepted the gift with delight | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
because it fitted in extremely well | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
with their already quite extensive textiles collection, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
which was put together by the museum's founder, Josephine Bowes, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
who collected textiles throughout her life. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
Things like seat coverings like this, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
which were being ripped off because fashions changed. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
She was buying them up and hanging onto them. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
She also bought lace from dealers | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
but nothing like the quality of the Blackborne collection. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Blackborne & Co was founded in 1850 | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
during an expansion of the lace market, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
caused by the growth of the middle classes. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
The firm's shop in the West End of London was ideally located | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
close to the fashionable shopping areas. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
The firm commissioned new lace | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
and remodelled historic lace for fashionable wear. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
The Blackbornes also acquired a huge collection of old patterns | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
and earlier examples of lace for study. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
Both father and son worked at creating a market for old lace | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
in the newly developing antiques trade. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Lace-making is thought to date back as far as the 16th century | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
and the museum here | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
has many rare and early examples in its collection, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
like this one, and this is a very good starting point. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
It's a beautiful deep collar of raised needle lace, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
thought to be Venetian, circa 1660 to 1680. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
It looks just like the lace collar | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
shown on this portrait of Maria Anna van Berchem, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
the daughter of a rich Italian family living in Antwerp. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
The painting, dated 1660, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
is part of the collection here at the Bowes Museum, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
and it's extraordinary that something as fragile and intimate | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
as this collar can survive intact for so many centuries. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
But what's even more impressive has to be this next piece. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
I never thought something like this would get my pulse racing. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
Lace doesn't really do it for me, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
but that is divine. Look at the detail. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
It's superb. This is an English cavalier's piece. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
It's a gentleman's cloak band, circa 1635. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:22 | |
It would be very expensive in its day, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
the equivalent of, let's say, an expensive car today, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
a Rolls-Royce or a Bentley. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
And this is just an accessory of clothing over the shoulders. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
But what I find fascinating about this is it's English lace, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
it's beautifully hand-worked and this is in mint condition. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
It's just a wonderful series of geometric patterns | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
and some of it's quite repetitive but it's really pleasing on the eye. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
And there is speculation that this was once worn by King Charles I. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
Certainly, in this 17th-century portrait of him, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
he is wearing something very similar and this collar is top quality, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
so it may well have belonged to the king. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
What is rather exciting, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
not all of the 7,000 pieces have been unpacked | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
and further researched. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:15 | |
So, in a rare opportunity, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
I'm going to delve inside one of the so far untouched trunks | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
with the help of the museum's keeper of textiles, Joanna Hashagen. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
So, here we are, in one of the storerooms | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
where we've put some of the lace trunks. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
It's all gents' clothing, isn't it? | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
-Tunics, officers... -That's it, yeah. -So, the boys' room. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
This is one of the menswear wardrobes, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
but this just happened to be a space, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:48 | |
-because we're still sorting them. -OK. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
These are the last remaining trunks of all the collection. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
-Go on, open it up. Have a look. -Right, it's very old. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
-It's a lovely leather-bound trunk. -It is. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
Probably Anthony Blackborne's, who started the business in 1850. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
So, here we are. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
And it's just full, jammed full, as most of the trunks were, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
of bundles of lace. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
We've started cataloguing the whole collection | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
-and we're up to 7,000 pieces, we think. -Sure. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
-And here's another, what do you reckon? -200 or 300, I would say. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
-I reckon so, too. -Just laying flat like that. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
This is part of the shop stock that was left over | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
after the Second World War. Their main collection is on show. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
But, together with this and the study collections, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
it's one of the largest collections of lace in the world. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
Incredible. What happens next? | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
We then look at this collection. We take it out of the trunk | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
and start cataloguing it, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
select some for conservation and for going on display | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
or for study collection, they go into drawers for access. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
-So, for us now, it's off to the conservation room. -That's right. -OK. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
Here we are, the next stage. It all looks quite impressive. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
I absolutely love this. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:03 | |
I'm gravitating towards this. I want to wear it! | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
A man's cravat and it's pure baroque, these swirling forms. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
It's Venetian needle lace, between 1670, 1690, perhaps. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
But what we've done here, which is so exciting, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
is that we've taken the cravat end | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
-and we've reformed it into how it looked originally. -Right. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
And Luca Costigliolo, who is a theatre designer, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
has helped us with this. We've looked at portraits. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
So, we've made it look as it was when it was worn, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
which just means so much, than flat bits of lace, doesn't it? | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
-And a parasol there. -Now, this parasol, yes, hasn't been conserved. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
This is a 19th-century, about 1860s, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
rather grand parasol for a lady to carry, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
but it's made of 17th-century Venetian needle lace, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
the same as the cravat. Because in the 19th century, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
it became really, really fashionable to wear these heavy laces | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
and so, Arthur Blackborne had a workshop | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
actually remodelling very high quality lace | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
which was so expensive in its own day. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
-Great thing to do - recycle it. -Yes, exactly, yes. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
So, it still had a real value, even in the 19th century. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
Can I talk values, sort of approximate values with you? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
One of the best examples I have is of Queen Charlotte's dressing table | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
which was adorned with lace cos lace was used for furnishing as well. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
-Sure. -So, you can imagine how expensive it must have been | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
to have yards of it, you know. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
And there's a painting of her with her lace dressing table, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
which is French needle lace, and in there, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
there's a bill of 1762 which says that the lace cost £1,079. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:33 | |
But the mahogany dressing table underneath it, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
-which was made by the royal cabinet maker, William Vile... -£10? | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
No, £5, 5 shillings. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
Gosh, and there's me dreaming | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
of being a wonderful royal cabinet maker. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
-You need to be a lace maker! -Yes, yes. I'm so tempted to put that on. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
Look at it. It works well with that colour! Thank you for your time | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
-and I think you've done a terrific job here. -Thank you. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
For many centuries, handmade lace | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
ranked alongside the most precious jewellery | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
as the ultimate status symbol. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
So, having seen some of the exquisite examples | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
on display here at the Bowes Museum, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
I'm hoping the next time you and I look at a work of art, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
an oil painting on the wall, we not only notice the jewellery, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
but we understand and appreciate the values of lace too. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Back to the picture galleries, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
where we are still finding some great items. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
Let's get over to our experts and see what they've found. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
And it's time to catch up with Elizabeth. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
So, David, we have here a Rolex watch. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
It's the pinnacle of watch names, very collectible. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
Tell me the history of it, please. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
I bought it in Singapore in 1969 from... It was a NAAFI shop. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
-It cost me £53. -Did it really? A lot of money in those days, I guess. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
-It was a month's wages. -Yes. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
-So you were serving at that time, were you? -Royal Marines. -Right. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
So, was that a treat for you to buy that? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
Well, I was going diving out there at the time | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
and if you'd got to have a diving watch, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
you either bought a Rolex or an Omega, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
which were the two top watches, the decent diving watches at the time. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
So I went and bought myself one. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
My goodness, so although it was a luxury good, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
-you bought it to utilise as a watch. -As an everyday watch. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
-I wore it every day. -You've obviously worn it quite a bit | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
because my only comment would be the condition of it is not quite... | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
It's had a new face and a new bevel on many years | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
-cos I done rock climbing and it gets damaged on the rocks. -Good for you. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
I lost a strap cos I used to put a cloth strap on | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
for the military years and I lost that | 0:39:36 | 0:39:37 | |
so I just put a replacement strap on many years later. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
It complements it quite well, I have to say. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
It's lost the bezel from round the outside | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
and then a bit of damage on the glass, as you would expect, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
but apart from that, it's very collectible. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
It's been a good watch that I've worn since '69. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
And when David bought his watch, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
it would have looked something like this. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Rolex, obviously, a fantastic name, in terms of watches, | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
as you pointed out. Established in 1905 | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
and one of the best Swiss manufacturer of watches, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
certainly in the 20th century. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:06 | |
Because of the cult status, they hold as superb timepieces, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
but they are also very wearable still | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
and people do like that vintage look. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
They like to invest in something which maintains the value, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
that is still worth quite a bit today. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
So, you haven't worn it for a little while, then? | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
No, I don't know whether it stopped keeping good time or not, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
but it's worked ever since I put it on | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
and I took it into a jeweller's shop two years ago. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
I thought I'd get it done up again and he said, "I can't touch it." | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
-You've got to send it back to them. -It's got to go back to them | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
and they said that'll cost £1,000 | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
but it will be worth about £8,000 afterwards, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
so I put it back in the drawer. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
Until we came along and you think you'll now call it quits. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
I saw "Flog It!" was coming, cos we watch it all the time, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
so we brought a few other trinkets and we've had a day out today. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
Well, it's been lovely to see you. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
So, we're looking to liquidise the asset you have here | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
-and put it at auction. -Yes. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
For the reasons we've discussed and the condition it's in, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
obviously it won't be worth the £8,000. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
That's after restoration and so on, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
but there have been other precedents set, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
so we can trace the likely interest and I think, at the moment, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
in that condition, it wouldn't be unfair to suggest | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
-a price of between £3,000 and £5,000. -Right. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
-Well, I was hoping to get £4,000 at least for it. -Right. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
But you don't think that would make £4,000? | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
I think if you suggested an estimate of £4,000 and upwards from there | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
at the moment, in that condition, it would probably frighten people off. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
-So, £3,000 to £5,000. -£3,000 to £5,000 would be sensible. -Yep. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
And a fixed reserve of £3,000 on it to safety-net it. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
-Yes, that's fine. -We'll see you at the auction. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
-OK, thank you. -Nice to see you. Take care. -Thank you. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
That's what I call a well-loved watch. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Over to Paul now, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
who has found something that brings back a bygone era. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Pat, Mike, hi. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
You have got an astonishing collection of photographs | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
of stars of stage and screen, back in the day. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
-How do you come to own such a collection? -I inherited it. -Right. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
I think it must have been my paternal grandmother | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
-that started the collection. -Yeah. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
-I know she was very keen on theatre and music hall. -I see. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
-I never knew her. She died before I was born. -Right. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
I found these in an old shoe box among Mum's photographs | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
and I gathered them together in the albums. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
So, we're looking at the 1920s and either side | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
and your grandmother, I guess, would have seen some of these celebrities. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
-Must have done. Dad was born in 1917. -Yeah. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
And he remembers going to music hall and theatre with his mum. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
Where is this? Is this the Northeast? | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
No, it would be in Surrey or Hampshire, that sort of area. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
-That's where they lived then. -Do we know how many there are? -Go on. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
-About 130. -Yeah. -130? -Yeah, I think so. -That is good going. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
-They knew how to take a photograph then. -Anna Neagle. -Yes. -Anna Neagle. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
Now there's a name I recognise. That looks signed, doesn't it? | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
I've come across this technique before. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
While you can see an impression that you think was made by a pen nib, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
-it is, nevertheless, a printed process. -Right. -Right. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Very sophisticated and would certainly catch the unwary | 0:43:03 | 0:43:08 | |
and you wouldn't want to have | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
a signed portrait of Audrey Hepburn, back in the day, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
and then find out it was one of these sophisticated reproductions | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
which are inferior by far. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
That's a little insight into how careful we have to be | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
in this field of autographs. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:23 | |
Talking about Audrey Hepburn and the later stars, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
Vivien Leigh, that looks like. Late 1940s. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
If that had been signed in her hand, there's a lot on its own. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:34 | |
However, we've got, going back, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:35 | |
-a whole load of people that most people have never heard of. -Sure. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
-Yes. -And I think, under the hammer, they're not worth £1 a card. -No. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
My estimate would be a cautious, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
though likely realistic, £40 to £80 for the collection. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
-Would you part at that? -I would, yes. -Yeah? | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
-Would you like a reserve? -I'm not bothered about a reserve. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
-You'll let them go. -Yeah. -£40 to £80's our estimate. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
I think they'll do that - if the gods are with us, even more - | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
-and I can't wait to see what happens on the day. -Grand. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
Now it's to a tea set, currently being valued by Elizabeth. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:11 | |
-Hello, Clare. -Hello. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:12 | |
Thank you for bringing this lovely shiny tea set. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
What's the history behind it? | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
It was given to me by my mother for our 25th silver wedding anniversary | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
and her husband bought it for her 25th, for their wedding anniversary. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:28 | |
-Yes? -So she passed it on to me. Now I've no use for it. -OK. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:34 | |
-You don't serve your tea in this every day? -No, no. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
-So, you're looking to sell, then? -Yes. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
-Do you know who it's by or the date of it or anything? -No. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
Nothing at all. The great thing about silver is in most cases, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
when it's English silver, it's possible to be very precise | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
about when it was assayed, tested and passed | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
as being full of sterling silver and normally we find out who made it | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
and the date it was assayed, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:55 | |
so it gives you a good, big package of information. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
The marks on yours indicate that it was assayed in 1965 | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
but it was made by JB Chatterley & Sons Ltd | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
and that was originally John Bishop Chatterley & Sons, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
who was established in about 1880 in Birmingham. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
But this one is mid-20th century in date, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
so we're getting quite late, in terms of production of tea sets. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
And it looks as though both your parents and yourself | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
have not really used it very much | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
and it's been kept in wonderful crisp, clean condition. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
No, it's never been used, hardly. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
-Well, it's all the better for that now. -Yeah. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
So, if you were to sell it, what would you do? | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
Would you buy something else? | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
It's our 40th wedding anniversary next month, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
-so we'd like to go away somewhere. -Oh, congratulations. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:43 | |
-So, keep the wedding theme going but in a different format. -Yes. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:47 | |
Oh, that's lovely. I mean, it is good. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
It borrows strongly from the 18th century Georgian style of tea sets | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
that we find from 200 years earlier. It's quite heavy gauge silver, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
so quite a decent weight to each of the pieces, which is nice. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
But, like yourself, most people in the market these days, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
wouldn't buy it to use it. Value will reflect that though - | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
that the demand will not be for the usage of it, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
but more for the aesthetics of it. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
I would think that, currently, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
you'd be looking at a realistic open-market value | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
-of about £250 to £350 for the set. -Yeah. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
Which, compared to where it was a few years ago, | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
is weak and a bit disappointing, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
but that's very much reflective of the 21st century way of living. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
People just... We don't drink tea in a leisurely way any more | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
out of nice things like this. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:30 | |
Would you be happy to put it for auction at £250 to £350? | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
That's fine. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
The silver market can fluctuate up and down within a week or two. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
The markets are forever changing, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:40 | |
so if the silver prices continue to go up, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
-it might be that you make a little bit more. -Right. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
That's a fair assessment, as it stands, at the moment, | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
and we'll try our hardest to get as much as possible. Is that OK? | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
-That's lovely. -Wonderful. Thank you very much for coming in. -Thank you. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
Back to Paul, who has found something right up my street. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
Enid... | 0:47:00 | 0:47:01 | |
..what are you doing, bringing me a bugbear? | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
-Well... -Does that mean anything to you? | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
-No, it doesn't, not at all. -Well, we'll go into that later. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
I am nutty about your nut. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:12 | |
Where did you get that? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
My sister gave it to me 30-odd years ago, she was a district nurse | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
and one of her old ladies gave it to her as a memento and a thank you, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
and my sister doesn't particularly like quirky things, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
she gave it to me, | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
and it's been in my lounge ever since. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
Did it come with any story? Was there an explanation? | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
No, nothing, nothing about it at all. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:31 | |
-Just a bizarre, carved... well, coconut. -Yes. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
-This much anyone would know. -Yes, yes. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
Yes, it's a coconut. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:37 | |
-And we could call this scrimshanked, I dare say. -Yes. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
You know, you know, scrimshawed... | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
-sailor work, let's say. -Yes. -Tusks and so on. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
-These are the Royal arms, of course. -Yes. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
We've got the Imperial crown, and this is a Georgian crown, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
and we've got our lion and our unicorn. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
So in a sense, we're thinking, | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
"OK, is it official in some way?" | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
-Right, yes. -"What's the story?" | 0:47:56 | 0:47:57 | |
It says David Stewart... | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
-..10th, Roman numeral... -Yes. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
-..10th band, Jamaica... -Yes. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
..1793. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
Well, that's exactly where we'd expect this to come from, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
..and I said "bugbear" at the off. Well... | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
that little chap there... | 0:48:13 | 0:48:14 | |
-Yes. -..the little grotesque mask, is a bugbear. -Is it? | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
-He's like a wee haggis, isn't he? -Never known. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
It's a generic flask. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
Oh, is it? | 0:48:22 | 0:48:23 | |
-It had a plug. -Oh, right! | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
-A turned, wooden... -Yes? -..bung. -Yes? | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
-It was never really practical. -No? | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
-It's to give it a function. -Yes? | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
A bugbear's a mythical creature, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:34 | |
-and this is a Caribbean islands' little craft. -Is it? | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
-Carving these coconut husks. -Right. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
-It wasn't done by David Stewart. -No? | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
David Stewart would have thrown, I doubt a guinea, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
-but a penny or whatever... -Yes? | 0:48:47 | 0:48:48 | |
..at a local artisan and said, "Can you personalise it for me?" | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
-Oh, right. -As a little souvenir... -Yes, yes? | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
..to bring back home. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
Yes, what a story. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:58 | |
-Isn't it, just? -Yes, what a story, yes. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
-He was over there for a reason in 1793. -Yes? | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
Now this much I know from my history. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
10th, when you see 10th, that's almost certainly his regiment. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
-Is it? -And this will, he will be a military man. -Oh, right. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
At this time, there was a slave rising... | 0:49:14 | 0:49:20 | |
-Was there? -..in Jamaica... -Yes. -..and we would, of course, | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
send troops out there to quell that uprising. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
-I see, yes. -Horrible aspect of Empire. -Yes, yes. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
Now, I've looked this up a little bit. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
-He comes up straight away. -Oh, does he? | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
He is recorded in official lists | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
-of the movement of officers and so on. -Amazing! | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
If he's in the Indies in 1793, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
-if he was a young man at 20... -Yes? | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
..at 40, he could've been fighting Napoleon, could he not? | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
-Oh, yes. -What became of this man? -Yes, yes, yes. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
All day long, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
that's worth £200 to £400. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
Right, yes. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:57 | |
-Not a stratospheric sum. -No. | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
-That's a lot of money for a coconut. -It is, it is, yes. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
If we get somebody hankering after material to the 10th Regiment... | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
-Yes? -..well, if it was my cup of tea, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
-I'd fight you in the streets for it. -Yes, I know. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
So, um, it's got real potential, | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
but I can assure you, we'd be pretty unlucky not to see | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
-£200 to £400 for that under the hammer. -Right, OK. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
Off to the auction. Bye-bye, bugbear. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
I never knew what it was called. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
Never knew. That's lovely. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
And now for my favourite part of the show. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
Here's what's going under the hammer. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
First, we have the Rolex watch, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
which looks like it really has lived. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
Followed by the albums containing photos | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
of the stars of the stage and silver screen. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
It may only be a coconut, | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
but the carving on it transports us back to the 18th century. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
It is a unique piece. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
And we round things off elegantly with the Edwardian silver tea set, | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
fashioned in the Georgian style. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
We're heading back to the Lakes and the auction house | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
for our final selection of items. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
Looking after our first lot is auctioneer David Brookes. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
Going under the hammer right now, we've got that wonderful photo album | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
showing the stars of stage and screen from the 1920s, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
belonging to Pat and Mike. Good to see you both again. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
These have been in the family a long time. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
Yes, they were my paternal grandma's. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
Is this something that the dealers will pick on | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
for one or two specific photographs in there? | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
There's a lot of value in, let's say, four or five items, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
-rather than the generic book. -Without a shadow of a doubt. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
Some of these stars have stood the test of time, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
so there's a few that make the album. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
Yeah, fingers crossed. It's going under the hammer right now. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
The selection of vintage postcards. Celebrity interest. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
-Start me at 40 then, please. £40? -Right, we're in. -Thank you sir. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
-Bidder in the room. -42. 45. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
48. 50 now. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
55. In the room at 55. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
60. 65. 70. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
75. 80 on the internet. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
85 in the room. Have we finished? | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
90. 95, room bidder. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
It's against you on the internet. We have 95. 100 now. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
110. 110 in the room. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
In the room at 110. They're having a think. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
120 now on the internet. No? Thank you anyway. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
120 here on the internet. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
And we will sell if no further interest at 120 to the net buyer. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
-Hammer's gone down. £120. -Ooh. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
-Good result. -Yeah, good result. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
One or two there that thought, "There's something interesting, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
"I'm going to invest and take a chance on it." | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
-It was a good valuation. -That's terrific. Thank you so much. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
Well, good stuff. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
Job done. Time now for the Rolex watch. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
But will its poor condition hold it back? | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
There's only one name in watches, as far as I'm concerned, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
as far as you're concerned. That's the Submariner, it's the Rolex. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
-Classic. -Are you going to replace it with anything? -I don't think so. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
I've got a mobile phone now. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
-Oh, yeah, everyone tells the time from their phone, don't they? -Yep. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
I tell you what though, people are buying Rolexes | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
and they're paying good money for them and it's still working, | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
so there you go, that's the great Swiss movement in it. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
Let's find out what it's worth right now. Here we go. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
Rolex Submariner. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
Now, this has seen 20 years' service in the Royal Marines, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
hence its condition, but it'll scrub up very nicely. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
Start me at 2,000 then somewhere. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
2,000. We'll come right back, we'll take a bit of time. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
Start me at 1,500 online. 1,500 bid. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
1,500. 1,600. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
16. 17. 1,700 now. 1,700. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
1,700. You're out on the internet. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
1,800. 1,900 now. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
1,900 bid. 2,000 bid on the net. 2,000 bid. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
2,000 bid now. 2,200. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
2,200. Is that 4 online? No. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
2,200. Are you all done this time, then? | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
At 2,200. We are reserved. The best bid was £2,000 on the internet | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
but we have instructions not to sell. Sorry. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
I'm pleased you put a reserve of £3,000 on it, you know. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
-Well, it was worth... -Oh, gosh, it's worth the top end of that. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
It's worth the 5, they just didn't want it today. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
It's one of those things. That's auctions for you. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
-It's been a day out. -Yeah. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
-Thank you for bringing it to the valuation day. -My pleasure. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
What a good sport. Time for some refreshments. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
Cup of tea, maybe, but don't rush to the kitchen to put the kettle on. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
This tea's courtesy of Clare here and Elizabeth, our expert. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
We have a silver tea set for you going under the hammer. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
-Have you got fed up with cleaning it? -Yes, I don't clean it much. -No! | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Do you know what, everyone that comes on the show | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
that wants to sell silver says exactly the same thing. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
No-one wants it any more, do they? It's going under the hammer now. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
A four-piece silver tea set. 1965. Have various commissions. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:48 | |
I'm going to have to start the bidding with me at 250, 280... | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
Straight in, sold. Top end. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
350. 380. At £380 bid. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
400, 420. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
450. 480. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
500. Commission's out. 500 in the room. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
-That's very good. -That's good. -In the room at 500. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
Any interest on the internet? In the room here at £500. Going. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
The hammer's gone down at £500. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
-I told you it was a good time for people to buy, didn't I? -Yeah. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
They see something in that which means if they sit on that | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
for ten years, that will be a good investment for them. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
There's a lot of silver there. You've got to be pleased with that. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
I'm very pleased with it, yeah. It's great. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
That's brilliant. And who knows, they may even drink tea from it. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:35 | |
Going under the hammer right now, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:36 | |
possibly my favourite lot of the whole day, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
it's the oldest in the saleroom as well, | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
it's dated, it's Jamaica at 1793. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:42 | |
It belongs to Enid, and it's that wonderful carved coconut. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
I was really jealous when I spotted this, because I love it! | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
-It's real history. -Let's hope, yeah? | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
I think this is going to go to a collector, right here, right now. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
Here we go. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:54 | |
The 18th-century carved coconut. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
I rather like this piece myself, actually, | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
but I've got to start the bidding with the commission here at £120. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:03 | |
-The auctioneer said he liked it as well. -Oh, good. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
Get to you on the internet. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
130, 140 with me. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
-You're bidding 150, 160... -Oh, come on, come on! | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
-170, 180. -He's got a bid on the book, look. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
-190. -Commission bid. -200. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
220 in the room. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:17 | |
220 in the room, 240, thank you. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
260, 280. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:21 | |
300, I'll come back to you, David. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
320... | 0:56:24 | 0:56:25 | |
No? 320 on one phone. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
-Are you bidding, on the other phone? -Come on. Yes, of course you are. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
-It's going to do 400, come on, it's got to. -You bidding, on the phone? | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
Make your mind up time, 360, thank you. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
380, 400. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
420. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:40 | |
-This is more like it, isn't it, Enid? -Absolutely. -440... | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
440 against the internet. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
We're going to the other phone at 460. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
-Yes. Good man. -Nice! | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
480. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:51 | |
500, I've taken, in the room. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
In the room with 500, I'll take 50s. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:54 | |
500 in the room. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
550. Make no mistake at £550 and going... | 0:56:56 | 0:57:02 | |
£550, Enid. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:03 | |
The bidders weren't shy on that coconut, were they? | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
-That was very good, yes. -Wow! | 0:57:06 | 0:57:07 | |
-Yes. -Happy? -So pleased. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:08 | |
-He's happy. I'm really happy. -Yes, yes, so am I. -Yeah. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
-What a day and what a great way to end today's show. -I know, yes. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
What are you going to spend all the money on? | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
Oh, I don't know, I haven't thought yet. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
You don't know yet, haven't thought about that, too excited. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
Sadly, that's all of the time we have for today, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
but I told you there's going to be one big surprise. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
We thoroughly enjoyed being in Kendal, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:26 | |
and join us soon for many more surprises in the saleroom, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
but, until then, it's goodbye from all of us. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 |