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MUSIC: Lady Of The Sea by Seth Lakeman

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Today we're in Nottinghamshire

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and it's forests like these that are famous for the myth of Robin Hood.

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But they're also associated with another,

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much more mysterious man that dates back even further, to pagan times.

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And he's known as the Green Man.

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And later on in the programme, we'll be finding out more about him.

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But right now, we need to find some antiques. Welcome to "Flog It!"

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While some cathedrals are the flagship for a city,

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Southwell Minster is different.

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Soaring up over the small market town of Southwell,

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it's surrounded by fields and forests - a real rural idyll.

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As we'll be finding out later in the show,

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the peace and the tranquillity of its natural surroundings

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have been brought seamlessly into the heart of the Minster.

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The Poet Laureate John Betjeman once said of the Minster,

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"Everywhere around is an atmosphere of peace."

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Well, I tell you what, there's no peace here in this

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magnificent queue, because they're here to see our experts.

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They're laden with antiques and collectables.

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And if they get a favourable evaluation from our experts,

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-what are you going to do?

-Flog it!

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So, as our "Flog It!" sellers wind around the cathedral,

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our experts are on hand to survey the antique booty.

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I honestly thought I was working with a professional today

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and somebody who would share the goodies out.

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-You've been deeply misinformed.

-I have, haven't I? I can see that.

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Mark Stacey's warming up his acute skills of deduction.

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-I think they're ducks.

-I think they are.

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You see, that's how knowledgeable I am. I can spot them straight away.

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Well done, Mark. While Michael's looking for richer pickings...

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Bag inspector. Anything of interest, anything silver?

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So let's get our crowd out of the cold and into the warm

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and the calm of the cathedral.

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Coming up on today's show, we've got our highest ever turnout

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here at Southwell, with over 1,000 people showing up.

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In their bags and boxes, our experts have spotted

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some very unusual curiosities...

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And it was by the side of the bed, so that

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if anybody broke in... That's it.

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..as well as exotic treasures...

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-Everybody wants it.

-Oh, right.

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Everybody wants it.

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But can you guess which one sells for over £1,000?

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Is the room bid? Third warning...

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So let's hope our experts'

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valuations will be up to scratch today.

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We've taken over all of the nave here at Southwell Minster.

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It is the most beautiful, inspiring place, as you can see.

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Full of carvings, stained-glass window and stone,

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all inspired by nature.

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Later on in the programme,

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we'll be taking a closer look at as much of it as possible.

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But right now, as the room's filling up,

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let's get on with our first valuation.

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And it's over to Michael Baggott's table. He's just there.

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Margret, Jane, thank you both coming in and thank you both for,

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I think, making my day.

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This has all the looks of something absolutely wonderful.

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You know what's inside, don't you? I had a peek earlier.

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Shall we reveal to the...?

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I think people are screaming, "What's inside?!" I think

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they may have seen one of these before.

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Wonderful. Wonderful.

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A pocket terrestrial globe in its original shagreen case.

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-Where did it come from?

-I suspect it was

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my late husband's grandfather.

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He used to collect a whole load of things.

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So, is it something you both like? Is it something you've...

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-Yes.

-Yeah? Over the years?

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-It's different.

-It's different?

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That's normally what people say when they don't like it.

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-So where do you keep it?

-In the shed.

-The shed?

-In the shed.

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Is this a really special, climate-controlled,

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-museum-quality shed?

-Yeah, yeah.

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That's the sort of... Or is it just a shed?

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-It's a shed, but it's got a lot of things in it.

-Well, there's one less.

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I mean, the remarkable thing about this to me is the condition.

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All of this black, which is actually ray skin, we call it shagreen.

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It can be shark's skin or ray's skin.

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It's taken off, it's prepared and it's as hard as iron.

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So you put it on and it basically dries, protects it.

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And when we talk about things like this,

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people like to buy them untouched,

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as they were made, and have come down without damage or restoration.

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And that's what we have.

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Now, obviously we look at the globe and we've got all of Australia.

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We've got the various travel routes.

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So this is going to be a fairly late globe.

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When you see these you think of coffee houses in

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the late 18th century and gentlemen pulling them out of their pockets

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and having learned discussions about one thing or another.

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This is actually... It surprised me -

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this partnership, Williams and Hayden, who were working in London.

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And we've got their label there. They were working in the 1830s.

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So we've actually got a William IV globe.

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Which is later than we'd expect. But it's in lovely condition.

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Have you got any idea what it might be worth?

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-No.

-No, not at all.

-I mean, they're incredibly sought-after.

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What I'd like to do is I'd like to put a reserve on it

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-of £2,500.

-Good grief!

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-And I'd like to put an estimate...

-In the shed. It was in the shed.

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..of £3,000-£5,000, and that's a proper sum for it.

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Are you happy with that?

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-Certainly.

-Certainly. Is that a good surprise?

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It's a very good surprise. I mean, I guessed it was valuable.

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-But I didn't think...

-It's valuable and it's sought-after.

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Thank you both for bringing this in.

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Made my day, and I look forward to seeing you both at the auction.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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I totally agree with Michael - it's a really special piece which

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should stay out of the shed and be placed into the hands of collectors.

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While the valuations continue, I've decided to do some globetrotting

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and have found an object often discovered

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bobbing in the seas as naked as nature intended.

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-Mike, that looks heavy.

-It is quite heavy.

-Can I hold it?

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Of course you can, yeah. Absolutely.

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-I know what it is, it's a sea coconut, isn't it?

-It is.

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Coco de mer.

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I've seen many in my time, polished,

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with a patina like the finest furniture you will ever see.

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And sometimes hollowed out, hinged here

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-and turned into little boxes.

-Oh, I see.

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They make wonderful curios and great caddies,

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-but they're particular to the Seychelles.

-They are indeed.

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-I brought it back from the Seychelles.

-You've been?

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I went to the Seychelles coaching squash in 1976

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-and I was given that as a gift, and I brought it home with me.

-Really?

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-Yeah.

-Have you any idea of its age?

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It's... Well, it's 40 years since I was there

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and I suspect it's probably around about 40 years old.

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Yeah, I think it may be considerably older.

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-I think this could be around 100 years old.

-Really?

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There's something about it.

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At one stage you could only find these on the Seychelles.

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In its state like this, 100-200.

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Polished up...300-400.

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-Good. OK.

-Enjoy. Enjoy polishing that.

-I will. Thank you very much.

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I've enjoyed touching it.

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That's a keeper for Mike, but it's great when you treat us

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to such interesting curios.

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And one that's put a smile on all of our faces.

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And now, from the Indian Ocean to the South Pacific

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for Mark's first find.

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Teri, thank you for braving the weather to come to see us.

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It's quite, quite nasty out there, isn't it?

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I was amazed when it started to snow. I hadn't anticipated that bit.

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-You were the first in the queue, as well.

-I was, yes.

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Which I think is very brave of you.

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But well worth it from my point of view,

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-because you brought this fabulous item.

-Oh, I'm pleased.

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How on earth did it come into your family?

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Well, we are a military family, we have been for generations,

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and travelled around. And, I mean, I was born in India.

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Yeah, and my mother always travelled,

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always managed to acquire unusual things.

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I can remember this being in the family for

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at least 60 years, probably more.

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-It was always there.

-So this was your mother's?

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-Yes, it was my mother's, yes.

-And where did she keep it?

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-Was it proudly displayed?

-Oh, no, no, no.

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She had it as a protection for herself.

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It amused me, because she was only 4"11, though

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she insisted she was five foot.

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It's very heavy and it was by the side of the bed so that

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if anybody broke in... That's it.

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And I think she was hoping the sight of it would terrify anybody.

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But it was her protection.

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-She sounds a wonderful character, your mother.

-Absolutely.

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She was just... She did her first parachute jump at 80.

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-Parachute jump at 80?!

-For Great Ormond Street.

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And then she did about four more after that.

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I mean, she just was a most incredible woman,

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who lived life to the absolute full.

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Well, going back to the wonderful object...

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It is a sort of protection, in a way. I think it is Fijian.

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-Oh, right, yes.

-It's an item called an ula.

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And it's a sort of throwing club.

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So you would throw this at, you know,

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-whatever you were chasing at the time.

-Yes.

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It's made of this very hard, dense wood, with this gnarled edge.

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A lot of tribal stuff is made now.

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Soon as I saw this in the queue, it had such a wonderful, warm colour.

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This is hundreds of years of people stroking it and holding it,

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and it's got this lovely little geometric carving here,

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-which is very decorative.

-Wow, yes.

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But if you think about it logically, if you're holding something,

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to have that bit of decoration gives you a little bit more grip as well.

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Course it does. Yes, yes, I hadn't realised that.

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And because of that pattern, I think this is a nice

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-genuine 19th-century example.

-Yes.

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-And very, very collectable.

-Oh, good.

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I think putting it into auction, we'd need to put the estimate

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at the right pitch, because we want to attract the right bidders in.

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-Right.

-So I think if we put it in at, say, £3-£500...

-Oh, wow!

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-..with a fixed reserve of 300.

-Yeah, fantastic.

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-As I don't want it to go less than that.

-No.

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And I think on a good day, if the internet bidders are there,

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and if the right collector's there, which I'm sure they will be,

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-I'm hoping it would go even over the 500.

-Yes.

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-And it deserves to make that sort of money.

-Oh, thank you.

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-Oh, that would be fantastic.

-Well.

-Mum will be thrilled to bits.

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And if they don't bid, we can throw it at them.

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Let's hope it won't come to that.

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If you got something fascinating, bring it along

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to one of our valuation days,

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details of which you can find on the BBC website.

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Just log onto bbc.co.uk/flogit.

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All the information will be there,

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or check for details in your local press. We'd love to see you.

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Next, Michael's doing well with another piece that would have been

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essential on board ship for navigating the high seas.

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Pauline, you've brought me a clock in a box, haven't you?

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-A clock in a box, yes.

-Beats a jack-in-the-box.

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Well, let's open it up first and let's get a proper look at it.

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Isn't that lovely?

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I particularly like the fact that all of this is uncleaned.

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Well, I was going to ask you about that.

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I really was tempted to get the cleaner out.

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-The polisher and go over it?

-Just to make it sparkle a bit.

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Do you know, so many people do, and it raises an extremely good point.

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When you're looking at instruments,

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you're looking for originality of finish,

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and every time you polish it, little bits of lacquer come off,

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little bits of gilding come off,

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so collectors always prefer them to be very dull.

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And that shows that you've kept it and not touched it.

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-Well, it hasn't been touched.

-Now, where did it come from?

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-My husband was a clock man.

-Right.

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He appreciated the workmanship,

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the engineering, the measurements...

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-The precision that went into making it.

-..that went into making something like this.

-Yeah.

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There are various grades of chronometer,

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and I am not a chronometer expert.

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I can admire the amount of skill and precision that went into it,

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but I wouldn't flick that out of its gimbal mounts

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-and start mucking about with the insides or the workings of it.

-Yes.

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What we can say about it is it's basically made

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to the highest standard that you can make a timepiece,

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because you need it to be so accurate.

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I mean, we can see here, we've got the date - 1928.

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You can tell from the style of the case it's early 20th century.

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-Yes.

-We've got the makers there,

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Thomas Mercer, London and St Albans.

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And St Albans, of course, has a wonderful tradition of clock-making.

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We'll close him up.

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I think we'd be very sensible to put an auction estimate

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-of £4-£600 on it.

-Yes.

-And a fixed reserve of £400.

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And if there are two clock men,

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which I'm sure there will be at the sale, at least two -

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we want more than that, don't we? We want about ten -

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-it will find its level.

-Yes.

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And that's the most important thing, and we'll get it away.

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But you recommend a reserve of £400?

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I think £400 protects you,

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-it stops it going for a silly amount of money.

-Yes, yes.

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And if we can get towards that £600 or £700 mark,

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-I think that would be a very good result.

-It would.

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Thank you so much for bringing this in.

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-It's been a pleasure talking to you.

-That's marvellous.

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Thank you very much indeed.

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Such a perfect speciality clock

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should do very well in the auction room.

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Now, taking a wander back into the choir, I found a hidden gem.

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Now, I'm sitting on a pew,

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and it's the pew end I want to show you, and this one in particular.

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Look at the detail in the foliate work in the carving.

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It's got mistletoe - now that is extremely rare

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to find in a church or a cathedral,

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and that's just a taste of things to come later on in the show.

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Stay tuned and you'll find out. But right now,

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we're off to auction for the very first time.

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You've seen what our experts have found -

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let's now put them under the hammer.

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And here's a quick recap of what we're selling.

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There's that tribal Fijian club, owned by Terry

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and once kept by her mother for protection,

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just shrieking age with its well-worn patina.

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Can we find a new home for Margaret's gorgeous globe,

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kept in the potting shed?

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And Pauline's pristine ship's chronometer

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should clock up a good sum from the buyers.

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Nottingham, where we're holding our auction today,

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has a marvellous secret lurking beneath its pavements.

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There are more than 500 caves dating back 700 years,

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that have been used by tanners, butchers and monks.

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The one use they haven't had, though, is selling antiques,

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and for that we're heading to Mellors & Kirk,

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where Nigel Kirk is conducting the proceedings above ground.

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And the first lot is Terry's club,

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brought back from travels by her intrepid mum.

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Oceanic art, it's superb. Nice crosshatching, as well, in places.

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-It was great.

-It's got everything going for it.

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Hopefully we'll get a little more than 500, hopefully that top end.

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Well, we've been lucky with tribal things, haven't we, on "Flog It!"?

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-Yes, we have. Yes, we have.

-SHE LAUGHS

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-Let's keep our fingers crossed.

-Let's do that, shall we?

-Absolutely.

-Look, good luck, both of you.

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-Thank you very much.

-Here we go. This is it.

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305, the Fiji dense hardwood throwing club

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of late 19th or early 20th century date.

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£300 for this lot.

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I am bid 320,

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350 for it. 350.

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380. 400.

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420. 420, I'm bid.

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£420. 450 for it?

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-Come on, come on.

-£420, sell.

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He's selling at 420.

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-Hammer's gone down. £420.

-Well, it's not bad.

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-That's not bad.

-Not bad. Middle of the estimate.

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I'm thrilled to bits, quite honestly.

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-Cos you didn't know what to do with it, did you?

-No, I didn't know. No.

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-I had no concept of the value.

-Well, I think it's a great buy.

-Yeah, that's great. Super.

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And don't forget, Terry will be paying 15% seller's commission

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plus VAT to the auction house.

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For our second lot, we're hoping to find a globe lover

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for this 19th century shagreen pocket globe.

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I love this. This is my favourite thing of the whole sale.

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The entire sale, not just of our "Flog It!" lots. It's beautiful.

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And the condition...

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My eyes lit up on the day. To find something like that...

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-Jealous. I was jealous.

-I mean, it is a gem.

-It is.

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-And they are sought-after gems.

-Three-inch terrestrial globe

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for the globe itself, and on the case it was celestial in the lining.

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Yes. Nice shagreen case, and untouched.

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Were you surprised at the value when Michael said three to five?

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I was. I thought maybe about 1,000.

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I didn't expect that at all. It was totally amazing.

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Hopefully we can make your day, both of you.

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Hopefully we can sell it and get that top end.

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Well, I'm excited. Don't go away,

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because this is going under the hammer right now. Enjoy.

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Lot 320 is the English three-inch terrestrial pocket globe

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by Williams & Hayden.

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And £1,600 I am bid.

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1,700, 1,800.

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1,900. At £1,900.

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£2,000, I'm bid.

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2,100. 2,200.

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2,300.

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At £2,300. Any advance?

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At £2,300...

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-Unsold.

-Didn't sell it.

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That's fine.

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You get a feeling on the day with an auction, sometimes, and...

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-No trouble at all.

-You live to fight another day.

-Absolutely.

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This is the prime example of reserve.

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It's not about being greedy.

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-It's about protecting something that's rare and is worth good money.

-Yes.

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'That globe won't be going back into the shed,

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'and we're sure it will find its well-deserved

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'level at auction in the future. And now for our third lot,

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'auctioneer Nigel Kirk has got high hopes indeed.'

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It's a very well-preserved example of an English two-day

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marine chronometer of about 1920,

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and I really think it should do better than the estimate.

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It belongs to Pauline,

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and the auctioneer said yesterday this could fly.

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-He said it could fly away. He liked it.

-That's marvellous.

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It's meant for a ship.

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I suppose we can put it on a plane as well, that's not a problem.

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I mean, on the day, I said, "I'm not a great expert on these.

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"Let's put it in with a low figure and let's see what the experts,

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"the dealers in that saleroom remake of it."

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Only time will tell how much it's going to go for.

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In fact, time is up right now. This is it. It's going under the hammer.

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Good luck, both of you.

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£250 for this lot is bid.

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At 250, 280, 300.

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There's a chap down there who wants to buy it.

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380, 400, 420, 420? 420.

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-450, 480...

-Competition in the room.

-500?

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500, 550, 600, 650,

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-700, 750, 800...

-Wow.

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-Wow.

-750 I am bid in the room. 750.

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Any advance? At £750, I sell.

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-£750. Brilliant. You're shaking, aren't you?

-Yes, I am.

-Great news.

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-That was fantastic.

-That really is good news.

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'That was a fine example of scientific excellence,

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'and as we say, quality will out.'

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Our stunning valuation-day venue, Southwell Minster, is famous

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worldwide for its architecture, but there's a building

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attached to the minster that's also renowned throughout the world,

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not so much for its architecture but for what's in it.

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I was intrigued so I went off to investigate.

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As you leave the nave,

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you enter through this wonderful Gothic archway,

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down this corridor, and the first thing you notice are the backlit

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stained-glass windows, each with their own narrative, but above them,

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and around them, you can see these wonderful

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gargoyles and grotesque masks and clusters of foliate work,

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all hand-carved by the stonemasons, punctuating the architecture.

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But there's a bigger surprise waiting for us

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just around the corner.

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And this is it. The octagon.

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Known because it has eight sides to this room.

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It was built in 1288 and, as you can see, the ceiling soars

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high to the heavens and the light comes flooding in.

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It's known as the Chapter House and it's a meeting room,

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but if you get over that and you look at the detail on the wall,

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in the stone itself, you can see the work of a master stone-maker.

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He's made stone come a live.

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# My face in the foliage

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# You've seen that face before... #

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If you look closely, you can see faces peering down

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at you from between the foliage.

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This image, of a mysterious, at times frightening

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man in the trees is what came to be known as...

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the Green Man.

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# I'm the Green Man... #

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Well, I've counted 15 of them.

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Now, the question is, who was the Green Man and what's he doing here,

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and why are there so many of them?

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# If you cut me down... #

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This ancient image is thought to have its roots in pagan beliefs

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dating as far back as 3,000 BC.

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'But it's Dr Colin Harris, who has had a lifelong obsession with

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'the Green Man, who can shed more light on him.'

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So, who was the Green Man?

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Simply a concept which was absorbed by the early church

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about the spirit of nature, about the spirit of birth,

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life, death and rebirth,

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which people felt a great oneness with, particularly when you consider

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that England was covered largely in forest. From Bath to Nottingham,

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a squirrel would never have to jump on the ground.

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In most religions, and in most continents,

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for many thousands of years, the Green Man, as we now call him,

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has been an integral part of our oneness with the Mother Earth.

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-So the Green Man is venerated all over the world?

-Absolutely.

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The Green Man was a revered spirit,

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worshipped as a symbol of renewal, rebirth and regeneration,

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but he also found his way into more common beliefs.

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There are also this link, this secular link, with our folklore, our

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customs, our traditions,

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that the Green Man popped up as parts of festivals.

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Through Anglo-Saxon times and to the present day,

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the Green Man appeared in old stories,

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customs and characters, like Jack in the Green and Jack the Lad.

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Even the myth of Robin Hood may have emerged out of

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beliefs in a gift-giving Green Man.

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It's quite an interesting story that the Green Man, this kind,

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benevolent, overarching concept in our lives, became a very

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important person like Robin Hood.

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It was only in the 1930s that the phrase of "Green Man"

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came into use, when someone recognised the similarity

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between folkloric traditions and the carvings found in churches.

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But I wanted to know - how had this pagan image

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made its way into churches like Southwell in the forms of these

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medieval Green Man carvings?

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And the Church brought the Green Man in with its own symbolism

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and its own sort of little effigies and carvings, really, in order to

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get more worshippers in, to get the pagans into church, do you think?

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Well, not so much bums on seats,

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but much more about not offending previous faiths.

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In other words, church leaders in places like Southwell saw

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the need to incorporate the Green Man into the Church as a way

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of embracing the long-held beliefs of their community.

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With that in mind, it's time to get back into the Chapter House

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to get a better look of this man for all seasons.

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As well as the Green Man, there is a Green Woman.

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This is extremely rare and valuable, and she's over there.

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There are other faces as well that you can spot.

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One above the door, now, that's the Jewish usurer.

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He was the moneylender who probably financed the Chapter House.

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These images are out of kilter with the taste of the time, which

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was for rigid form.

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Here there is a freedom and a fluidity,

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surely the reason why people flock here from all over the world.

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The detail in the carving is not only exquisite,

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but it's absolutely astonishing. Just look at this plant life.

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Look at the leaves here. No two leaves are the same.

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They are all horticulturally correct

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and there's 14 different varieties of plant life.

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There's field maple there and there's oak leaf there.

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Not only was he a great draughtsman, but he must have studied plant life.

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It's the freedom of his hand I find so astonishing.

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Now, this one is my favourite one.

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Not for subject matter, I hasten to add, but for technical merit.

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What you have to remember here is the mason has carved this,

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all of these things, out of one solid lump of stone.

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Look at the undercuts,

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look how he's got inside that to sort of work back outwards.

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You can see the light and shade created by these voids.

0:26:330:26:37

First of all, you notice the leaf work. You can see that's ivy there

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with berries sort of clinging on.

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If you look underneath that you can see an observation on real life -

0:26:420:26:47

two hounds ripping a hare apart.

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It is a masterpiece. A technical masterpiece.

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The man behind this extraordinary stonework is right here

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in the Chapter House itself.

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Now, that is a self-portrait of the master mason who did all of this

0:27:050:27:09

wonderful work, bringing this building alive.

0:27:090:27:12

I am in awe of this chap.

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We don't know his name. He probably was an itinerant worker

0:27:140:27:17

who came over from France.

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His work is absolutely dynamic, and, as far as I am concerned,

0:27:190:27:24

completely unparalleled.

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So, a Pagan belief, a folkloric tradition and a symbol of renewal,

0:27:320:27:37

and giving back to the people,

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but can we ever really know exactly who the Green Man was?

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He's a conundrum, he's a puzzle which has no answer.

0:27:470:27:50

And I've never come up with a true black-and-white single answer

0:27:500:27:55

as to what he is.

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# I'm the Green Man... #

0:27:570:27:59

We may never know who he is, but we are left with these wonderful

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carvings which conjure up another time and place,

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and for that we have the mason of Southwell Minster to thank.

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# If you cut me down I'll spring back green again. #

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Time to get back to the valuations in the nave.

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As you can see, we have still got a full house,

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packed to the rafters with more antiques to find to take off

0:28:270:28:31

to auction, which brings us to our next item, Michael Baggott.

0:28:310:28:35

Now, he's found something which you'll now be quite familiar with.

0:28:350:28:38

Let's take a closer look.

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-Anne.

-Hello there.

0:28:410:28:42

Thank you for bringing this delightful bit of silver.

0:28:420:28:45

Before I tell you anything about it, what do you know about it?

0:28:450:28:49

Not a lot. Only that it's got the Green Man on it just there.

0:28:490:28:51

-He's smiling away, isn't he?

-And it's on both sides, as well.

0:28:510:28:55

-It's the same pattern, both sides.

-Both sides, yes.

0:28:550:28:57

-But where did he come from? Was it family?

-No.

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I was stood on a market stall about 12 years ago

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and it was on the next stall, and I took a fancy to it and I bought it.

0:29:030:29:07

-A market stall?

-Yes.

-Was it big money?

0:29:070:29:10

I wouldn't have paid more than £10,

0:29:100:29:12

cos I did not have a lot of money in those days.

0:29:120:29:14

-12 years ago?

-Yes.

0:29:140:29:15

It's clearly Victorian to my eye, but we need to have a look

0:29:150:29:20

for the hallmarks, and they are always hidden in the decoration.

0:29:200:29:24

So there we have got a very tiny little maker's mark, "HM".

0:29:240:29:29

That is Henry Matthews, and he made little purses, and he also

0:29:290:29:34

-specialised in making dressing-table sets.

-Oh, right.

0:29:340:29:36

All the silver top bottles and the trays,

0:29:360:29:39

and there we go, we have got a Birmingham town mark

0:29:390:29:42

and we've got the date letter - we're just into the Edwardian period.

0:29:420:29:46

-We're 1904.

-Quite old, then.

0:29:460:29:49

This is in mint condition, and just to reinforce that,

0:29:490:29:53

-if we press down, look at the lining.

-It is perfect, isn't it?

0:29:530:29:57

Untouched, unstained. We have even got the little clip there

0:29:570:30:02

-for your stamps or your little sovereign.

-Yeah.

0:30:020:30:05

So it doesn't fall out. I mean, it is just wonderful,

0:30:050:30:09

-and for a tenner, that's amazing.

-Yes.

0:30:090:30:12

And of course you have got the little suspension ring, and people wonder

0:30:120:30:15

what these are for, but it is, of course, for when you're dancing.

0:30:150:30:18

-Yes.

-You can hold hands and that goes along like that.

-Yes.

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What do you think it's worth now?

0:30:230:30:26

-I've no idea. No idea.

-They're always collectable, but they are not

0:30:260:30:31

-worth a fortune.

-No, no.

-That's how we have to look at it.

0:30:310:30:35

-I think if we put reserve of £100 on it...

-Right.

0:30:350:30:37

..that's 10 times your money back, and we'll put an estimate

0:30:370:30:42

of 100 to 120 and I think, at that, we'll sell it all day long

0:30:420:30:48

-and hopefully we'll get the top end of that.

-Right.

0:30:480:30:50

-Thank you so much for bringing it in.

-Yes, thank you.

0:30:500:30:53

Let's see if the Green Man weaves his magic

0:30:560:30:58

when he goes under the hammer.

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Now, you may not think Southwell has horticulture

0:31:010:31:04

running through its veins, but it does.

0:31:040:31:06

Take a look at that stained-glass window up there above me.

0:31:060:31:10

See that? That's not your usual biblical scene, but it does have

0:31:100:31:14

a narrative. It's got apples in it - Bramley apples, to be precise,

0:31:140:31:18

and someone who can tell me all about that is Maria Marriot

0:31:180:31:23

from the WI.

0:31:230:31:24

-From the WI.

-From the WI.

0:31:240:31:26

-With pie in hand.

-A little gift for you.

-Is that for me?

0:31:260:31:30

-For you only.

-Thank you so much.

0:31:300:31:32

Tell me the story of the Bramley apple.

0:31:320:31:35

Mary Ann Brailsford, a little girl, in 1809,

0:31:350:31:38

planted some pips in the garden,

0:31:380:31:40

and Mr Bramley was walking past, the butcher, and he decided to buy this

0:31:400:31:45

house and cottage, did so,

0:31:450:31:47

and later, along comes Mr Henry Merriweather,

0:31:470:31:52

likes the look of the apple, and decides HE wants it.

0:31:520:31:55

Mr Bramley sells it as long as he keeps the Bramley name.

0:31:550:31:59

-Right, and that's the story of...

-And that's the story.

0:31:590:32:02

..that variety, then.

0:32:020:32:03

And how fitting that the Minister commemorated the bicentenary

0:32:030:32:07

of their famous local apple with this beautiful stained-glass window.

0:32:070:32:11

But now, let's see if that's whetted Mark's appetite

0:32:110:32:14

for his next item, inspired by nature.

0:32:140:32:16

-Shirley, what can I say?

-I don't know.

0:32:180:32:21

-You've brought in a "Flog It!" favourite.

-I know.

0:32:210:32:25

We don't need to say much about this, do we?

0:32:250:32:27

Not really, no but I would like to know the age of it.

0:32:270:32:30

Well, first of all, I would like to know how you acquired it.

0:32:300:32:34

-Well, from a cousin several times removed.

-So you inherited it.

0:32:340:32:39

-I inherited it.

-Do you have other pieces like it at home?

0:32:390:32:43

-No, unfortunately.

-It's a one-off.

-It is a one-off, yes.

0:32:430:32:47

You know, of course, it's Moorcroft.

0:32:470:32:49

-Yes, I do.

-Just looking at this, we all know, as soon as we see this

0:32:490:32:53

tube line decoration, which is this sort of outline pattern

0:32:530:32:57

that they tube line on and then decorate it.

0:32:570:33:00

The slightly interesting bit about this is that it has got this

0:33:000:33:04

very high flambe glaze and it's got these lovely rich autumnal colours

0:33:040:33:10

in there with the leaves and berries.

0:33:100:33:12

-That's why I like it.

-I love this sort of baluster shape,

0:33:120:33:16

and if we look underneath we can see, there it is, the Moorcroft signature,

0:33:160:33:21

impressed, as well, and Made In England.

0:33:210:33:24

And I think it is just a lovely little piece.

0:33:240:33:28

This is probably going to be 1930s, 1950s, because it is a

0:33:280:33:33

slightly later pattern, and the flambe design, but it is absolutely

0:33:330:33:38

beautiful, and when you revolve it in your hands, it needs a bit of a wash.

0:33:380:33:43

-Yes.

-I'll just point that out.

0:33:430:33:47

-Like me!

-I forgot it.

0:33:470:33:49

Well, I believe in the format of Quentin Crisp.

0:33:490:33:53

The dust doesn't get any more after 30 years.

0:33:530:33:56

-You don't notice it.

-HE LAUGHS

0:33:560:33:59

-Have you ever thought of the value?

-I know what I would like,

0:33:590:34:04

-but the prices have gone down.

-They do fluctuate quite a lot.

0:34:040:34:09

I mean, the early rare pieces still make quite a lot of money.

0:34:090:34:13

The majority of Moorcroft is realistic at the moment, shall we say?

0:34:130:34:18

In terms of an auction estimate,

0:34:180:34:20

-we've got to try and entice people in to bid.

-Yes.

0:34:200:34:23

I mean, I would have thought somewhere around £2-£300

0:34:230:34:27

with a fixed reserve of 200.

0:34:270:34:30

So we wouldn't sell it below that. Would you be happy with that?

0:34:300:34:33

-Yes, I'd accept that.

-Well, hopefully we will get a bit more,

0:34:330:34:37

I would like to see it making 3 or 400 if we can.

0:34:370:34:40

And if we've got a good price, what would you put the money towards?

0:34:400:34:44

It would go towards my granddaughter's driving lessons.

0:34:440:34:48

-Fantastic, thank you so much.

-Thank you.

0:34:480:34:51

And Shirley's not the only one looking to clean up at auction.

0:34:510:34:55

Look at that. There you go.

0:34:550:34:56

I had to do a bit of cleaning up. The place is a mess.

0:34:560:35:00

# Does he wash up? Never wash up... #

0:35:000:35:02

Now, Michael has found something that could do with some TLC, too.

0:35:020:35:06

Ursula.

0:35:070:35:09

These look a little unloved. Are they not in pride of place at home?

0:35:100:35:15

-No, they're stuffed in a box in the loft.

-Stuffed? Not placed!

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-Stuffed in a box.

-Stuffed in a box in the loft.

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I've always thought they are hideous.

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-My mum liked them.

-Your mother liked them?

-Yes.

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-Did she buy them?

-No, they were from her mother,

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so they're my grandmother's. And I think that would

0:35:300:35:32

have been in the early '40s.

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So it is around World War II, just post-War.

0:35:340:35:37

-Yes.

-Was it always the leaning tower of candlestick? No?

0:35:370:35:42

-As far as I remember, they've always looked like that.

-Right.

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You've got these Chinese figures,

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and we've got the lappet border, which is stylised Lotus,

0:35:490:35:54

and we have got these floral stems and we've got these cage works

0:35:540:36:00

around here for a single candle.

0:36:000:36:02

I used to work for a famous sale room about 10 or 12 years ago,

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and the one thing we couldn't sell,

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-no matter how cheaply we had it in, was Chinese silver.

-Right.

0:36:080:36:13

Advance to the present-day, everybody wants it.

0:36:130:36:16

-Oh, right.

-Everybody wants it.

0:36:160:36:19

We look over...and we have got the marks there,

0:36:190:36:22

we have got a 90 mark, which just means it is 900 standard silver,

0:36:220:36:27

and we have got two initials.

0:36:270:36:29

We've got... It is not "HM", it is "WH".

0:36:290:36:33

This is a Cantonese maker called Wang Hing.

0:36:330:36:36

-Right.

-And Mr Wang Hing was one of the most prolific and most

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sought-after silversmiths.

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These will date to about 1870, 1880.

0:36:450:36:48

Right, older than I thought.

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So they were nearly 70-80 years old when you're grandmother had them.

0:36:500:36:54

-Right, yes.

-Apart from a little bit of work that has to be done to them,

0:36:540:36:57

how much are they worth? What's a good cash offer today?

0:36:570:37:01

Where's my wallet?

0:37:010:37:03

I don't know because I didn't even realise, really, that they were

0:37:030:37:06

-silver and we thought we'd chuck them away.

-You wouldn't know from...

0:37:060:37:11

Were you going to chuck them away?! When's your bin day?

0:37:110:37:14

Shall I give them you back? Tell me. Um...

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Let's put £8-£1200 on them.

0:37:170:37:19

Let's put a reserve of £800 on them.

0:37:190:37:22

-Right, fantastic.

-Let's see where they go.

-Right.

0:37:220:37:25

They're very sought after. I am constantly surprised when I go

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to auctions, because it is not my taste either,

0:37:280:37:32

-but how much this stuff makes.

-Right, fantastic.

0:37:320:37:35

-Thank you so much for bringing them in.

-Thank you.

0:37:350:37:38

Well, Michael's feeling bold today and I am sure these should be going

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on a fast boat to China if there are any internet bidders in the room.

0:37:420:37:46

Well, that's it, our experts have made their final choice of items to

0:37:460:37:49

take off to auction, and I think there is some real treasure there.

0:37:490:37:53

I can't wait to put them under the hammer which means, sadly,

0:37:530:37:55

it is time to say goodbye to this.

0:37:550:37:57

Hundreds of people. In fact, over a thousand people have turned up

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from the surrounding areas and here's a quick recap

0:38:000:38:02

of all the items that are going under the hammer.

0:38:020:38:05

We've Anne's mint condition Edwardian purse

0:38:050:38:08

embellished with the mysterious Green Man.

0:38:080:38:11

A plant-inspired Moorcroft vase, the proceeds of which should pay for

0:38:130:38:18

driving Shirley once she funds her granddaughter's driving lessons.

0:38:180:38:22

And there are Ursula's rare foliage-carved candlesticks,

0:38:240:38:28

which Michael is sure will light up the sale room.

0:38:280:38:31

So, we're back at the auction house

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to put our experts' valuations to the test

0:38:380:38:39

and our first item is just about to go under the hammer.

0:38:390:38:43

I'm talking to Anne and we are looking at that wonderful little

0:38:440:38:47

Green Man silver purse.

0:38:470:38:49

-The thing that singles it out is the condition.

-Yes.

0:38:490:38:52

-It is exceptional, isn't it?

-Perfect, isn't it?

-Perfect.

0:38:520:38:54

Gut feeling right now, here on the day, Michael, what is going to do?

0:38:540:38:58

-£100, I'll be happy.

-£100. OK, ready?

0:38:580:39:01

We'll put him to the test again. This is it.

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Lot 155, the Edwardian silver purse.

0:39:040:39:07

£30 for this, please.

0:39:070:39:09

30 bid. 5, 40, 45, 5, and 50,

0:39:090:39:13

50... 60, 70, 80...

0:39:130:39:15

80? 80, thank you.

0:39:150:39:17

90? 90 I've got.

0:39:170:39:18

100? 100 I am bid online.

0:39:180:39:21

110 for it?

0:39:210:39:22

At £100 online and selling...

0:39:220:39:25

-Yes, nice big round figure, spot-on.

-GAVEL STRIKES

0:39:250:39:28

-Spot-on! Sorry about that.

-That's all right!

-£100.

0:39:280:39:31

-Smashing.

-That's good, isn't it?

-It's very good.

0:39:310:39:34

-We turned that tenner into £100.

-Yes.

0:39:340:39:36

And that is what it's all about. It is all out there,

0:39:360:39:38

you have just got to get up early in the morning, get out there

0:39:380:39:42

-and start foraging, haven't you?

-Yes, that is true.

0:39:420:39:44

Now, time for Shirley's vibrantly decorated floral Moorcroft vase.

0:39:440:39:49

It's a lovely thing and it's a sign of quality, isn't it?

0:39:490:39:52

It is a great name in ceramics, it really is.

0:39:520:39:55

But I look at you and I see you with Moorcroft,

0:39:550:39:57

I just see that lovely pattern.

0:39:570:39:59

-Well, you should have seen it when I originally saw it.

-Oh, OK.

0:39:590:40:02

-It had the most ghastly plastic daffodils in it.

-Did it?

0:40:020:40:05

-That was 20-odd years ago.

-Gosh.

0:40:050:40:07

It's had some service, then, hasn't it?

0:40:070:40:10

Oh, yes. I've only had it five years.

0:40:100:40:13

-Well, look, good luck with it anyway.

-Thank you.

0:40:130:40:17

£200 for this lot I am bid.

0:40:170:40:19

At £200. 220 for it?

0:40:190:40:21

220 online. 250? 250 in the room.

0:40:210:40:24

280? 280.

0:40:240:40:26

300? 300 I am bid.

0:40:260:40:27

This is good.

0:40:270:40:28

-320.

-320!

0:40:280:40:30

320 for it.

0:40:300:40:31

320. 340. 360.

0:40:310:40:33

400 I am bid in the room.

0:40:330:40:35

-On my right. £400.

-It's a good price, it's a good price.

0:40:350:40:38

Fair warning and selling.

0:40:380:40:40

-£400.

-That's not a bad price.

-It's fantastic.

-No.

0:40:400:40:43

-That is a good price.

-That's near what I'd had hoped for.

0:40:430:40:46

-You should have done the valuations!

-They always want more.

0:40:460:40:50

They're like you!

0:40:500:40:51

That's a good start for her granddaughter's driving lessons,

0:40:520:40:56

and for our final lot we are aiming high with Ursula's very rare

0:40:560:41:00

Chinese candlesticks.

0:41:000:41:02

Well, I tell you what, you brought these to the right man

0:41:020:41:04

at the valuation. I saw Michael gravitate towards you.

0:41:040:41:07

-He was like, "Get out of the way, everyone!"

-I did leap.

0:41:070:41:10

-Leaping was involved.

-You did.

0:41:100:41:11

Now, the auctioneer said yesterday that he could not find

0:41:110:41:15

an illustration in the maker's catalogue for this particular pair,

0:41:150:41:19

so he thinks they're quite rare.

0:41:190:41:21

Candlesticks are incredibly unusual for Chinese export.

0:41:210:41:25

I've only seen two or three pairs in my life.

0:41:250:41:28

These could get away at 8 to 12. Michael, spot on, or they could fly.

0:41:280:41:32

-We're going to find out right now. Are you ready for this?

-Yes.

0:41:320:41:35

Here we go, we are putting it to the test under the hammer.

0:41:350:41:38

-And £300 I am bid.

-Oh, it's a bit low.

0:41:380:41:41

300 only bid. 320 for them?

0:41:410:41:43

320. 350. 380. 400. 420.

0:41:430:41:47

450, 480, 500, 550.

0:41:470:41:52

650 here.

0:41:520:41:55

750 here.

0:41:550:41:57

800? 800 I am bid.

0:41:570:41:59

Right, we've got to the reserve.

0:41:590:42:01

-£800.

-Where is the internet?

0:42:010:42:04

-850 I am bid from Hong Kong.

-There we go. There's the internet.

0:42:040:42:07

900. 950 for you.

0:42:070:42:10

950. 950 online from Hong Kong.

0:42:100:42:14

1,000 is bid in the room. 1,100 for them.

0:42:140:42:18

-It's going to be a slug-out out now.

-Yes.

0:42:180:42:20

A very rare lot indeed. I'm selling to Hong Kong at £1,100 online.

0:42:200:42:25

GAVEL STRIKES

0:42:250:42:26

-That's fantastic.

-Amazing.

-That is what we want to hear, sold to

0:42:260:42:29

-a buyer in Hong Kong. Happy with that?

-Yes, very, thank you.

0:42:290:42:32

-Enjoy that money, won't you?

-Thank you very much.

0:42:320:42:34

Because we certainly enjoyed looking at those.

0:42:340:42:36

Spot-on, Michael, with something we may be lucky enough to see only once

0:42:360:42:41

in a lifetime.

0:42:410:42:42

Well, that's it, another day in another sale room for our owners.

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As you can see, the sale is still going on but what

0:42:470:42:50

a fabulous time we have had here in Nottingham.

0:42:500:42:52

Our experts have been on the money today,

0:42:520:42:54

and everybody has gone home happy

0:42:540:42:56

and that's what it is all about. I say, job done.

0:42:560:42:59

Join us again soon for many more surprises, but, until then,

0:42:590:43:02

it's goodbye from Nottingham.

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