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This beautiful stately home, surrounded by wooded parkland | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
just a few miles north of Stafford, is Sandon Hall, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
the ancestral home of the Harrowbys. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
It's been in the same family for nine generations - | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
that's 250 years of British history. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
It's the perfect location for Flog It! Welcome to the show. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
The almost Gothic appearance of Sandon Hall doesn't quite | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
prepare you for the riot of light and colour inside. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
This rare Chinese wallpaper is all hand-painted | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
and every single bird is different. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
Sandon Hall is a stern-looking building | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
built in the neo-Jacobean style, very popular with the Victorians. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
And in keeping with its style, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
this stately crowd have turned up, laden with antiques | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
and collectables, here to see our experts to find out what it's worth. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
And if you're happy with the valuations, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
-what are you going to do? CROWD: -Flog It! | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Helping them to do just that are experts, Charles Hanson... | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
I'm going over here. It's often the back of the queue where the treasures are really lurking. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
Oh, Charles, someone's beaten you to it. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
-Quickly, before Charlie Hanson comes over. -It's Christina Trevanion. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Let's sticker everyone back here, you're all mine! | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
And now they can't give it away. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
-Is it a "Flog it" for you today or...? -Oh, yes, yeah, yeah, definitely. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
-I think it's one for you. -I think it's one for you. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
-I think it's your type. -I think it's definitely... | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
Chill out, guys, there's plenty for everyone. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
First, let's see what's coming up on today's show. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
Christina's transported back to the swinging '60s. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
-This book does read a bit like a Who's Who of the 1960s music scene. -Exactly. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
For once, we're speechless at the auction room. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Huh. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:16 | |
And I find out about some fabulous females at Sandon Hall. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
-I'll let you into a secret, too. -What are you going to tell me? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
And now it's time to get this massive crowd inside. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
We've literally taken over all of the ground floor. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Hundreds of people have turned up. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
We need to find some treasures of our very own to take off to auction. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
And we're going to make a start, right now, with Charles Hanson. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
Margaret, what an amazing object. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
-Thank you. -It frivolous. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
It's floral. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
-It's almost outrageous. -Yeah! | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Where did it come from? | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
-A boot sale. I paid a pound for it. -Recently? | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
About a year ago. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
May I come with you next time to the car boot? | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
Because it would have been one of a pair. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
-Maybe the pair has long since been demolished... -Yeah. -..and broken... -Yeah. -..and lost in time. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
-Any ideas how old this is? -'30s. -You're right. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
-But 1830s. -18?! -Absolutely. -God. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
So we're going back to a time when William IV was King of England | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
and to a time when we saw the early Victorians reviving | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
the fashion for rococo. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
-And in this room, here, look at the wallpaper behind us. -Yeah. -It's frivolous. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
It's chinoiserie. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
And this is the Victorians almost reviving the vigour of the rococo. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
On the bottom, there's no markings at all... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
No, that's what I couldn't understand. There's no marking on there. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
No, it's what we generically call Coalbrookdale. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
And, of course, Coalbrookdale was a Staffordshire, or even Shropshire, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
factory founded near Ironbridge in the late 18th century. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:55 | |
And by 1813 the factory was obviously wanting to | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
be at the forefront of design. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
And it really is that. Because look at the flowers. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
All these mouldings have been hand-applied | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
onto the actual body of the porcelain. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
It really is, to me, a work of art. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
We have got some issues. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
-The tip of the handle... -Yeah. -..here, has been lost. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
-There's a hairline crack on the rim... -Yeah. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
-..there. You got losses here. -Yeah. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
You've got chips to the flowers, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
but it's just a real glint of joy, in my eyes. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Yeah, and I think by the time | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
we're that age, we'll have a few chips and dents. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
Well, I have already, trust me. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
-Does this go in your decor? Is it your style at home? -Not really, no. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
But I love anything that, I think, took a long time to make. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Why would those holes be in there? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
-To show the extreme quality of what these potters could achieve. -Yeah. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
It was almost a dare, this vase. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
-It was daring... -Yeah. -..and they achieved it | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
-and you want to flog it? -Yeah. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
These were making far more in the 1970s, '80s, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
-when we thought a bit more about the traditional. -Yeah. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
I think if I can guide it perhaps between 30 and £40. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
-That's OK. -And perhaps put a fixed reserve at 25, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
but I love it for what it represents. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-OK, then. -Let's go for it. -Yeah. -All set? -Yeah. -Hold tight. Can't wait. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
A car boot fan to start the show. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
Now, let's see what Christina's unearthed. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Helen, this is a very eclectic little mix of coins | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
-you've brought to me here. -Yes. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
-They've come through the family and that's how we've got them. -OK, all right. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-So, you, sort of, inherited all these? -Yes. -OK. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
So, this one here is the earliest | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
-and, I think, the most fascinating. -Right. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
It's what we call a long cross penny. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
But the thing, for me, that I find quite fascinating... | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
We've got this wonderful little portrait | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
of what looks to be a little boy with curly hair and a crown on. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Well, THAT is Edward II. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
-He doesn't look particularly regal there, does he? -No. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
But he dates to about 1307 to 1327. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
That's when he reigned. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
And that, I mean, most normal people at that date | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
wouldn't often see a portrait of their monarch. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
So, it was fascinating to them to have this portrait on a coin. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
It was really the only way that it could be reinforced that this was your monarch. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
Where did that come from? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:14 | |
Well, it was from our land which has a path through to the church, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
so we presumed that it must have been, you know, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
when people were walking to church. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
-Ah. OK, so it was found? -Yes. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-You'd be gutted when you looked for your collection money and then... -And that was it. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
But I do find this quite fascinating. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
There is 700 years worth of history here, in the form of this coin | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
and, often, from this period there was a bit of a practice | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
going on called coin clipping. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
-Right. Yes. -And that's because this coin is made of solid silver. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
People would clip just the sides off the coin. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
So, they'd be taking a little bit of silver | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
-and it was still worth the same amount of money even if it was clipped. -Right. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
But, obviously, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
these rather skullduggerous people, if they were, would be | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
collecting all these little bits of silver which, individually, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
wouldn't be worth a huge amount, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
-but imagine if you did that to a few hundred coins? -Yes. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
-I mean, that would be worth doing, wouldn't it? -Yes. -Especially during those times. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
There was huge poverty in places. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
It was a very tumultuous period. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
If we move on to the gold coin, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
here, if we turn it over, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
we've got a picture of George III and it says round the edge, here, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
"Georgius III" and, then, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
if we turn him back that way, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
we've got a nice little date on the bottom here, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
which I think says 1797. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
Now, it is quite worn. You can still get these where you see, literally, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
-every wisp and every strand of hair. -Right. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
You can still get them in perfect condition. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
And if they're like that, they are wonderfully collectable | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
-and incredibly valuable. -Yes. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
If they're in this condition, unfortunately, it is going to be | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-just the gold value... -Yes. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-..because these are made of 22-carat gold. -Yes. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
So they do have an intrinsic value to them as well. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
Again, if they've been mounted or they've been turned into a pendant like this, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
-coin collectors are really quite purist about it... -Yes. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
..and they don't like things that have been turned into pendants. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
And then we've got this shilling here, dated 1896, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
which I THINK is an African one. Is that right? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Yes, South African, yes. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:10 | |
My maternal grandfather was in the Boer War. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
Er, so, I presume it's come from there. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
Again, cos it's been turned into a pendant, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
-coin collectors won't be interested... -No. -..in it, sadly, any more. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
-So, unfortunately, we don't have a huge amount of value. -No. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
I have sold quite a few little long cross pennies | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
and although they are incredibly old, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
-I mean, the last one I sold, I think, made about £30. -Yes. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
-So your main value is the gold value... -Yes. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
..in this wonderful gold George III coin here. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
And I think, as a group, we're probably looking | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
-somewhere in the region of maybe 150 to £200. -Yes. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
-How do you feel about that? -That sounds very good to me. Yes. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-Would that be all right? -Yes, that would be fine. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
-And we'll hope that gold price zooms up between now and the auction. -Yes. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
-Keep everything crossed. -Thank you very much. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
While the valuations are going on, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
I've met up with Caroline Sandon, the current lady of the house, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
to hear about the achievements of some of her predecessors, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
starting with the 2nd Countess who lived here in the early 1800s. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:15 | |
She is the daughter of the 1st Marquess of Bute, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
Frances Coutts Stuart. And she's absolutely lovely. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
She's holding the future 3rd Earl, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
and I think it's the most serene portrait. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
However, the 2nd Countess was, actually, quite imperious. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
They lived a lot of the time in Italy and when they came | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
back from Italy, they were going to rebuild Sandon Hall | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
and they commissioned the architect William Burn to build this | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
marvellous, huge, neo-Jacobean house. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
Now, Countess decided that having lived in Italy, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
-she wanted large, Italian windows in her neo-Jacobean house. -Sure. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
And William Burn's pride was extremely hurt | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
and for the next two years, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
apparently, they sacked each other, | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
about 20 times, before finally | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
coming to resolution and guess who won? | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
-She did. -LAUGHTER | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
-And, in fact, we have huge, Italianate windows... -Yeah. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
..and that is why and it's all her legacy so I am very grateful to her. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
I think women are so underrated in the 18th and 19th century | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
and these women were quite powerful women and, actually, the next | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
woman I've chosen was equally powerful and did some great things. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
Well, let's have a look. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
This is the 5th Countess who was the daughter of a rather | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
famous bookseller, WH Smith. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
Oh, yes, I've heard of them. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
Absolutely. I think most people have. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
-What was her name? -Mabel. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
And she did two things which she should take huge credit for. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
The first was that she opened a club in London | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
for overseas officers from all over the Empire | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
so that when they were on leave, the trenches or wherever, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
they had somewhere to come back to, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:57 | |
and then Sandon itself became a Red Cross hospital, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
-auxiliary hospital, during the First World War... -OK. -..and she was an enormous part of that, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
so she was absolutely a tremendous woman. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
I like the photograph | 0:11:08 | 0:11:09 | |
and I've just noticed it's taken a month before the Great War. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
-You've got Mabel there. -That's her. In the centre, there. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
-She is. Lord Harrowby, my husband's great-grandmother. -Gosh. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
-This is how life was in the great houses before the Great War. -Mm-hm. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
And then, of course, everything changed and by the end | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
of the Great War, half of these beautiful young men were dead. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
They say a picture tells a thousand stories | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
and it's certainly true here at Sandon Hall. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Now, back at the valuation tables, Charles is a happy boy. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
-George, good to see you today. -Good to see you. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
And you've brought in a really interesting collection of wheels. Tell me about them. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
It's just what I've picked up at the car boot for the last five years. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
And had you gone there looking for these early, tin-plate, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
-clockwork toys? -No. -Or have you just been an enthusiast of all sorts? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
-All sorts. -Have you had some good finds over the years? -I have, yeah. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
-What's been your best find? -Mainly little gadgets. -Really? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
-I'm very much a gadget man, myself, so... -Are you? | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
-I'm a phone engineer by trade, so... -Are you, phone? -Mm-hm. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Wow, and that, obviously, I suppose | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
goes quite well with the technical nature of what were | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
fairly mass-produced toys. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
-Yes. -Have you a favourite? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:25 | |
-I'd say that one. -This gorgeous Express Transport vehicle here. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
-Have you done much detective work into them at all? -A little. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
And what does this one tell you here? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
-I think it's from the '30s. Maybe mid-'30s. -Yeah. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
-I mean, they are so simply made, aren't they? -Yeah. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Here's your clockwork, wind-up. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
-This one, I think, is still working. -They all work, yeah. -On the wire. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Then, of course, off it goes like that | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
and it's still expressing its speed in that regard. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
They're really... | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
It's a really nice collection. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
Obviously, we've got the later Betal toys for girls | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
and boys and they're just wonderful, aren't they? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
General transport, tin-plate with the wind-up key as well. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
Aren't they neat? And this one, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
I think...I think my father had one of these. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
So, it just brings back, I suppose, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
that childhood memory, doesn't it? They're good. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Clearly, from the advertising slogans of what they're selling | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
on the exterior, they are all British, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
they are all in that second quarter of the 20th century. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
Competitors with Germany and France in making similar | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
vehicles of this clockwork type in that period. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
Now, they are what we call play worn. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
We can see, perhaps, some of them have been left outside, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
they've, perhaps, had some weathering. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
They've suffered wear and tear and, to me, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
condition, often, is part of its journey. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
It's had a life. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
They've been enjoyed, but to collectors who are pernickety | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
when it comes to condition, they want the very best in this field. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
So, my advice would be, because of their condition, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
I would sell them as one lot. What have you spent on these tin-plate...? | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-About £75. -Have you? Well done. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
I think we would put them in a sale | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
with a guide price between 80 and £120. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
-Let's flog it!. -Exactly. Can't wait. Can't wait. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
It just proves there's still treasure at car-boot sales. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
Well, here in Staffordshire, anyway. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
And now Christina's stepped outside for her next item. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
Alison, the thing I love about this mug is how much fun | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
these guys look like they're having. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-They do, don't they? -It's just fab, isn't it? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
I mean, they are having a proper party on here. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
You've got some chap falling off a log. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
I mean, he's obviously had a few too many, hasn't he? | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
Some chappie riding a horse over here, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
who looks like he's telling everyone what they should be doing. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
-I mean, it's a wonderful village scene, isn't it? -Yes. -From 1903. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
-Mm-hm. -Where did it come from? -Well, that's a very good question. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
My grandfather picked it up at some random auction or other, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
and it's been in the family as far back as I can remember... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
-OK. -..and, you know, it's eventually come down to me. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
-Mm-hm. And you've inherited it, and now it's here today. -It is, indeed. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Well, when I first saw this, I have to confess I thought, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
"Hmm, that looks continental." | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Because this sort of quite high emboss work here, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
with the sort of background... is often continental, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
and we do see it, sort of early 20th century... | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
-A lot was imported from Holland... -Yes. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
..and the Low Countries, and we do see it in this country, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
and it was reassayed. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
-It was imported into this country and reassayed... -OK. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
..and I've had a really good look, because often, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
when it was reassayed, when it was an import, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
they would stamp it F for foreign, which isn't very inventive, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
-really, F for foreign, but... -No, but it's obvious. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
..that's what they did. Exactly. Yes, and we like that. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
So if we look at the mark I would expect to see | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
that magic foreign F, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
and if we have a really good look, we've got GNRH, those initials | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
in that shield shape there, which is for George Nathan and Ridley Hayes. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
We've got the lion passant for Sterling silver, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
three little wheat sheaves, which is the town mark for Chester, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
and that, funnily enough, was also my school badge, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
those wheat sheaves for Chester. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
-ALISON LAUGHS -And then we've got the date letter, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
which is a curly, curly C, which is for 1903. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
-Right. -So no F. -No F. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
So it must have been a British piece of silver, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
which really surprises me. It's a little mug, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
and probably would have been used as a christening mug, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
or a presentation mug. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
The only thing that concerns me is we've got a little bit of a dent, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
here, which is slightly worrying, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
and you can also, on the high points, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
it has been cleaned quite vigorously, and the silver | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
has actually worn away, so we've got a couple of little... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
That'll have been my gran. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
-Oh, really? Was she a good silver cleaner? -Yes. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
-She gave it plenty of welly? -Yes. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
But, I mean, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:43 | |
I wouldn't hesitate to put about £50 to £100 on that at auction. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
-I think it's a great thing. Would you be happy with that? -Yes. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
-Happy to flog it for that? -Yes. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
-And would you like a reserve on it? -I would. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
-What would you like your reserve to be, my love? -Um... | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-Would 50 be realistic? -I think £50 reserve is realistic. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
I think if we put an estimate of 50 to 100, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
maybe a discretionary reserve of 50 just in case we should need it... | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
-Mm-hm. -..but I think it's a lovely thing, and I wish I went | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
to a few more parties that looked like they were as much fun as that. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
-Absolutely. -THEY LAUGH | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Staffordshire is such a beautiful county. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
Shugborough Hall, the ancestral home of the Anson family, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
is set in a vast estate of beautifully landscaped grounds, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
and it's a fitting backdrop to the incredible career | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
of one of its 18th-century sons. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
Mucking about with boats rates pretty highly | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
on my list of things to do. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
I just love it, something I've probably got in common | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
with a young boy who grew up here, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
and probably played at this very spot. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
He grew up to sail real ships across real oceans. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
In fact, he became only the second Englishman | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
to circumnavigate the world. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
His name is George Anson, and he grew up here at Shugborough. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
He was born in 1697. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
It was his elder brother Thomas who would inherit the family title | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
and estates, so, like all second sons, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
George had to seek other employment. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
So he joined the Royal Navy at the age of 14, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
quickly working his way up the ranks to his first command | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
at the young age of 22, on a ship called the Weasel. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Fortunately, this dreadful name for a vessel didn't affect | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
the rest of his career. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Eventually, he became First Lord of the Admiralty, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
but it was his epic voyage around the world in 1740 | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
for which he's most remembered. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
At the time of Anson's voyage around the world in 1740, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Britain was engaged in a brutal and bloodthirsty war at sea with Spain. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
The aim was to weaken Spain's dominance over the trading markets | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
of South America, and in doing so, give us greater access | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
to its natural resources, its precious metals - | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
particularly, silver. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
The fleet that set sail from England under Anson's command | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
consisted of six warships, led by his flagship HMS Centurion, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
a formidable fighting ship capable of heavy-duty firepower. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
But this was no ordinary military campaign. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Anson's orders, delivered to him on behalf of King George II, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
included instructions for a secret mission - | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
to attack a Spanish treasure ship laden with Peruvian silver, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
as it made its way across the Pacific from Acapulco. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
But between them | 0:19:49 | 0:19:50 | |
and those spoils of war lay the tempestuous seas of Cape Horn... | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
..notorious for foul weather, violent gales, and thunderous waves. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
Battered by relentless storms, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
two of Anson's ships turned back to England. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Their captains were later to face charges for desertion. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
A third ship was washed up onto the rocks off an island | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
off the coast of Chile. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
When Anson finally reached China, he was left with one vessel, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
the Centurion, and a handful of men - some of whom, it was noted, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
had turned mad. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
Returning to England under these disastrous circumstances | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
would have certainly marked the end of his naval career. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
Now, whether Anson's next decision was one of pure genius | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
or sheer desperation, it's impossible to tell, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
but he decides to have one last attempt at catching up | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
with the Spanish treasure ship as it was crossing | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
the Pacific from Acapulco to Manila. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
Now, despite being in a patched-up ship with a crew | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
of just over 200 men, half the size of a normal crew, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
Anson had the self-belief | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
and the determination to command his crew to capture the Spanish vessel. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
As shown in this painting, Anson advanced on the enemy, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
and, at extremely close quarters, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
engaged the Spanish ship in fierce combat. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
Someone with first-hand experience of battle at sea | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
is Rear Admiral Christopher Layman. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
With 35 years in the Royal Navy, he is also an expert on Anson's voyage. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
So talk me through what happened when these ships finally engaged. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
The chief difference between the two was that | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
he was tremendously undermanned. He only had 200 men on board, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
and he should have had double that number, really, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
so he couldn't man all the guns. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
But he made the most of it, and his tactics were brilliant. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
There was no question of firing a proper broadside, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
which is firing all the guns off together, so instead of a guns crew | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
-allocated to each gun, they had roving gangs... -Right, OK. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
-..that went from gun to gun. -Relay, like a tag team? -In a relay. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
-It was desperate. They had to do it that way. -It was desperate. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Fighting for their lives, but they were also fighting for a fortune, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
because they all knew this was the Spanish treasure galleon. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
He'd been training for this for a month, you know? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
He'd been tacking up and down at the point, here, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
where he was expecting the galleon to arrive. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
Around the Philippines. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
That's right. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
And he got 30 of his best marksmen and put them in the tops, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
trained them every day, firing at targets, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
-rewarding the ones who were most accurate... -Yeah. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
..and, of course, they did tremendous damage. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
-In the rigging, firing down... -Picking off people. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
Picking off people, and first of all, I imagine, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
-accounting for the marksmen in the other ship... -Yes. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
..in the other rigging. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
At least, that's the order I would do things. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
Get them out first, then get the officers... | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
-That's right. -..and then get the guys firing the cannons. -Exactly. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
And, of course, while the musketeers | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
were doing their work from the tops, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
the heavy guns were hammering the ship. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
-Right along the bow. -That's right. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
-Very effective tactics. -Mm. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
-And... -With one of those? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
With one of these, and to be at the business end of that | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
when it arrives is not a good place to be. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
You wouldn't know about it, would you? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
That would go through the port side and out the starboard, would it? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
It might well do that, and if you knew nothing about it, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
you were one of the lucky ones. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
The others, who are wounded, mostly by splinters, probably... | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
Yes, cos that would ricochet. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
Huge splinters come from shipside, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
and give a nasty wound to anybody in the way. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
Very effective tactics. Worked very well. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
She surrendered with all the treasure intact. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
And each crewman, I gather, gets a part of that reward? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
-He certainly does. A huge prize... -Is it? | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
..which would set him up for life. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Capturing the Spanish ship sealed Anson's reputation | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
as a great military commander when he returned to England. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
It took a staggering 32 wagons to transport the chests of treasure, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
containing mostly gold and silver coins, to the Tower of London, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
with an estimated worth, in today's money, of £15 million. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
The Spanish treasure ship was the greatest prize ever captured at sea. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
Not only had Anson delivered the gold the King of England | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
asked him to fight for, but in doing so, he circumnavigated | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
the globe, ensuring his fame as well as his wealth. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
Now, and here's a quick reminder of what we're taking to auction. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
Nearly 200 years old, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
this floral extravaganza in porcelain may have a few chips, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
but it's still a spectacular example of local pottery. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Helen's coin collection travels even further back in history. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
Just imagine losing the cross penny all those hundreds of years ago. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
And George should reap the rewards | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
of building up his terrific collection | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
of early 20th century tin-plate toys from car-boot sales. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
The scene on this pretty silver christening mug | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
put Christina in the mood to party. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Well, the sun is shining and I've got a good feeling about today, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
because it is auction time | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
and this is where we're putting those valuations to the test - | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
Halls Auctioneers' brand-new, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
purpose-built saleroom just on the outskirts of Shrewsbury. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
We're going inside now to catch up with the auction action. Sit tight. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
Anything can happen. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
Jeremy Lamond is our auctioneer today | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
and the commission here is 19% plus VAT. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
First up, it's Helen's coin collection. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Heads or tails - it's your choice. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:29 | |
I've just been joined by Helen and Christina. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
Going under the hammer, we have some money. Those coins. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
The long cross penny, George III gold coin and the shilling. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
-We want top dollar for this money, don't we? -We do, yes. -Top shilling. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
Why are you selling, anyway? | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
Well, I really went to find out about the valuation, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
-and then it all goes on! -Oh, you got your arm twisted, did you? | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
-I pounced. -Hey, good choice, though, good choice. -I love this lot, yeah. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
Yeah, very good lot. Fingers crossed | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
there's 200 bidders here who feel likewise. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
Lot 45. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
-I can start this one at £150. -Ooh. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
At 150. At £150. At 150. 160, where? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
At £150, are we all done, then? At 150. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
-Maiden bid. -Selling at 150. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
Straight out. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
-It's not always that easy, is it? -No, it isn't, is it? | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
-Fantastic. Well done. -You're very happy with that, aren't you? | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
-That's fine. Thank you very much. -Oh, brilliant, brilliant. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
Short, but sweet. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:25 | |
Now, it's Margaret's Coalbrookdale vase. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
Margaret got this at a car-boot sale a year ago for £1. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
Yeah, and we're going to turn that £1 into 40 right now. Aren't we? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
-Hopefully. -We are. We are. You love your car boots, don't you? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
-Yeah, I do. -And, hopefully, we can send you back there with 30 or 40 quid in your pocket. Ready, Charles? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
-I'm ready. Absolutely right. -Let's do it. Here we go. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
Who's going to start me at £30 for it? 30. 30 on the internet. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
-Great. -£30 I've got. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
At £35 now. 40. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
At £40, it's an internet bid. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
At £40. Selling, then, at £40. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
-Well done, you. -Yeah. -Where is this car-boot sale? | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
-Are we all allowed to know? -Erm... | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
Is it a secret? | 0:28:04 | 0:28:05 | |
Yeah! | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
Wherever it is, I'm sure Margaret will be heading back for more bargains. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
Next, it's Alison's silver christening mug. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
-It was your grandfather's, wasn't it? -Yes. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
Was he ever christened with it? Was it a present...? | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
No, it was something he picked up at an auction. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Oh, he loved the auction scene, did he? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
-Do you like auctions? -This is the first one I've ever been to. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Is it really? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:30 | |
Oh, my goodness. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
Have you got your eye on anything at all? | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
Uh, no. No, I daren't. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
Keep your hands down, or else you might buy something. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Silver christening mug, Chester, 1903. There it is. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
I'll start the bidding here at £50... | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
Oh, brilliant. There we go, straightaway. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
..at £50. To a commission at £50. At £50 to a commission bid. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
-Come on, a bit more. -At £50. At 50. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
All finished, then, at £50. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
Selling... 5. Just in time. At £55. At 55. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
GAVEL BANGS | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
-Done. 55. -55. Little bit over bottom estimate. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
-Yes. Well, somebody will enjoy it. -Yes, let's hope so. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
Well, it wasn't doing anything in your cabinet, was it? | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
It certainly wasn't. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
Now for George's tin-plate toys. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
George, I've got to keep my fingers crossed for you, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
cos I think this one's going to be tight. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
The tin-plate toys. I loved them to bits, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:19 | |
but they're a little bit play-worn for the collectors, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
-aren't they? And how much did you pay? -£75. -75 quid at a car boot. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
We've got to get your money back. We're looking for 80 plus. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
We are, yes, and they are play-worn. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
-Yeah. -But it's the man's heritage. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
-OK. -Over the years, you've bought them. They're great. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
OK. We're going to put them to the test. Here we go. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
240. Various mid-20th-century, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
tin-plate, clockwork toys. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
I can start this lot at £75. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
75. Great. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:47 | |
It's on the net, now, at £100. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
110. 120. 130. 130 now. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
140 in the room. 150 on the net. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
160 in the room. 170. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
170. It's an internet bid, now. | 0:29:58 | 0:29:59 | |
180, internet, still. 190, now. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
At 190. 200. 210. 220. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
220. £220. Are we all finished? 230. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
-240. 240. -Amazing. -£240. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
-I'm speechless. -I am, as well. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
-Just shows what you find in car boots. -£240. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Selling to an internet bidder. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:15 | |
All finished, then. At £240. 240. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
KNOCKS HAMMER | 0:30:19 | 0:30:20 | |
£240. Hammer's gone down. Well done, you. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
-You took me by surprise - and you. -Very much so. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
That's just incredible. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
The collectors overlooked the condition. There was something they really wanted in that lot, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
and they just got it. And so did you! | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
You got 240 quid. You made a big profit. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
-Is it back to the car boot? -On Sunday. -On Sunday. Well done. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
Look out for Margaret! That's our first visit to the auction. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Now, before we return to our valuation day venue to find | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
some more treasures to put under the hammer here, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
I'm going to be the curious house guest and find out | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
something about some of the women in Sandon's history. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
Looking back through British history, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
you could be forgiven for thinking it's a man's world. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Well, it's certainly a male-dominated one, judging by the portraits | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
you come across at most stately homes, like here, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
in the Great Hall at Sandon. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
But we know that's only half the story and only half the history. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
Here at Sandon Hall, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
it's the women of the family who are first to greet you. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
Dominating the Great Hall is this painting of the Three Graces - | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
in this case, the three daughters | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
of Thomas Coutts, the famous London banker. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
Now, not only is this is painting of women, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:44 | |
but it's also a painting BY a woman - | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
Angelika Kauffmann, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
one of the rising stars of the 18th-century art world, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
and the fact that this is the first thing you see | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
when entering this great house | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
says a lot about the importance of women to this family. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
It was commissioned by Thomas Coutts | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
during a visit to Angelika Kauffmann's studio | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
in Rome, in 1791. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
To find out more about the artist, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
I'm joined by art historian Dr Clare Barlow. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
For a woman to succeed in the 18th century | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
as a professional artist was a very unusual thing. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
How did Angelika discover her talent for painting? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
Well, she's very fortunate in that | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
she has an extremely enlightened father, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
and her father is also a painter, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
and she grows up in Switzerland | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
and Italy and has an amazing exposure to the arts. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Crucially, the major problem for women in the arts is that they | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
can't attend life-drawing classes, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
because it would be indecorous | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
-for them to see naked bodies. -Sure. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
But, because he takes her to Rome, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
she's able to learn from the classical sculptures, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
and learn anatomy, and that proves absolutely crucial to her career. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
She benefits from the fact that in the 18th century, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
there's a real desire to celebrate female talent. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
And although it's harder for a woman to get launched, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
once she is launched, there's a huge audience | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
-who are desperate... -Everybody's interested. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
..to appreciate her work. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
Yes! And she has this unique selling point, which is | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
really helpful for her. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:19 | |
I mean, just looking at that, you can see | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
she is an exceptional talent, can't you? | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
Oh, she absolutely is, and one of the lovely things about it, too, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
is it's a portrait of WOMEN, by Angelika Kauffmann. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
Kauffmann is really famous for her depictions of women, and that | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
makes her the perfect artist to be promoting these girls. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
And some of the young sitters would be more comfortable with | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
a female artist as well. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:41 | |
And some of the families too, because, of course, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
painting is seen as a slightly erotic art, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
that, you know, you have to really pay attention to the sitter, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
and really think about what they look like, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
and obviously, taking your eligible | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
young ladies to a female artist | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
is, perhaps, more decorous. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:57 | |
And it's fascinating! | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
The fact that they're in front of a bust of Minerva, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
that's very significant, because they don't only have beauty, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
And they clearly have wealth because they're being depicted by such | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
a fashionable artist, but they also, in Minerva, have wisdom. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
She's the Goddess of Chastity and the Goddess of Wisdom, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
and I think that suggests their father is really promoting them | 0:34:16 | 0:34:21 | |
-as having the whole package. -Do we know what happened to the girls? | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
Well, we know that they made extremely good marriages, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
so clearly it worked! | 0:34:28 | 0:34:29 | |
But it's Frances, the middle daughter, who's the connection | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
to the Harrowby family. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
She marries First Marquess of Bute | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
-and it's her daughter who marries the second Earl of Harrowby. -Right. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
-So that's why it's here. -Absolutely. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
Sandon Hall has another great painting that puts women | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
centre stage - | 0:34:51 | 0:34:52 | |
this striking portrait of Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
the pioneering 18th-century traveller, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
famous for her writings about the Middle East. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
Unfortunately, the original is behind the scenes at the moment, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
we can't see it, so this is a photographic copy. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Is Lady Mary well known? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
She is one of the absolute celebrities | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
of the early 18th century. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
Certainly in her day, she was remarkably famous. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
Who's the little black boy? | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
There is a sort of convention in some Western portraits, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
of having elegant ladies with a black page boy in attendance. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
Actually, in the Ottoman Empire, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
child slaves tended to be white, rather than black. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
I mean, I think this could possibly be a reference | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
to the exoticism of the environment that she's coming from. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
Her husband is the Ambassador to Turkey. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
And she goes with him. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
Because she's a woman, she can go into spaces which men | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
can't go, like the harem, and that becomes this whole sensation. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
And when she comes back to London, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:57 | |
Turkish fashion becomes THE most popular masquerade dress. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
-But I'll let you into a secret, too. -OK, go on, what's that? | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
If you met Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, her face wouldn't have | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
looked like the face in the portrait, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
because, as a young woman, she'd had smallpox, and that had left her with | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
terrible scarring, and it had also meant that she had no eyelashes. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
-Oh, dear. -Which was terribly sad. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
But it didn't hold her back in the slightest. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
Through what I can only imagine is force of character, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
she still managed to launch this amazing career, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
and possibly partly because of her own experience, she helped | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
to bring smallpox inoculations back from Turkey with her | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
and she helped to encourage British aristocrats back in England | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
to have their children inoculated. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
-So she saved a lot of lives. -Wise lady! | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
-She was definitely the "It girl" of the day, wasn't she? -Absolutely. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
Well, I certainly enjoyed looking at these items here at Sandon Hall | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
and hearing about the Harrowby women connection to them. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
They certainly show that history is as full of interesting women, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
as it is men. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
Welcome back to our magnificent | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
valuation day venue location, Sandon Hall. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
As you can see, there are still hundreds of people here. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
We need to find some more antiques to take off to auction, so we're | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
going to make a start right now | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
as we catch up with Christina Trevanion. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
Christina stepped outside for her next item, where the | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
dress code today is...purple. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
Isn't it lovely to be outside in the fresh air? It's got | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
so busy in there that it's actually really rather nice | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
-just to be in these wonderful gardens. -Yes, lovely. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
Isn't it beautiful? | 0:37:59 | 0:38:00 | |
Very like your stunning necklace | 0:38:00 | 0:38:01 | |
that you've brought in to me | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
today, which is probably the most | 0:38:03 | 0:38:04 | |
understated, most elegant, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
beautiful piece of jewellery that I've seen for a long, long time. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
-That's very nice, thank you. -Do you wear it? -No. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
-You should, why...? -Don't think I ever have worn it. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
-You've NEVER worn it? -Don't wear jewellery. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
Well, I certainly wouldn't wear | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
anything as delicate as that, to be honest. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
It's not my sort of thing. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:20 | |
So tell me, where's it come from, how did it come to you? | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
My father's mother gave it to me probably 40-odd years ago. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
I think it's stunning, I really do. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
We've got this very delicate little 18-carat gold chain here. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
Now, we know it's 18-carat, because on this bolt ring | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
clasp at the back, there's a little pad to the right that says "18 CT". | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
-Yes. -So 750 parts of gold per thousand so it makes it | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
quite a substantial gold content to it. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
And it's quite a long chain, and then it's terminated | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
by these really very beautiful three graduated pearls. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
I personally would say stylistically, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
it dates from the sort of 1920s, | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
1930s, would that make sense with it being... Was it your granny's? | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
It was my granny's. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:04 | |
She had a department store, effectively, at the time, in Devizes. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:09 | |
She'd done very well for herself. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
SHE had a department store? | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
-She OWNED a department store? -Yes, it was hers. -Wow. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
-She was an entrepreneur. -In the 1920s? -Yes. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
She started off life as a milliner in the streets of London | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
-and worked her way up to ending up with her own store. -Wow! | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
-Pretty special, isn't it? -I think so, yeah. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
Certainly, my father was always very impressed with her. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
-I bet! -She frightened the life out of me, but...! | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
That's what happens, isn't it? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
Frightening. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:37 | |
And this was a gift TO her? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
It was a gift to her from the wife of a jeweller | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
and I understand that he made that for her. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
Specifically for her? Really, in the 1920s, using this white gold, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
was quite a new thing. Traditionally, up until that point, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
jewellery was very much in yellow gold and it's representing | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
that era of freedom that we're coming into, post-First World War. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
-Yes. -For me, as a jewellery expert, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
it seems really sad that it's not going to see the light of day, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
and I'm sad that you're not going to wear it, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
because these pearls here need the natural oils from your skin. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
-Ah! -They need to be lubricated in that sense to keep them | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
-from cracking. -So it needs to be worn. -It NEEDS to be worn, yes. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
-I mean, I'll volunteer, frankly. -It'd suit you very well. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
-I think it's beautiful. -Try it on. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
So, commercially, it does have a value. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
A lot of young people do like white gold, I'm personally... | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
Well, I don't really cast myself as young any more, I prefer | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
-yellow gold, but white gold is what the market wants. -Good. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
So, I think a sensible auction estimate for it would be somewhere | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
in the region maybe of £150 to £200. What's your thoughts about that? | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
-That would be fine, no problem at all. -Would that be all right? | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
I mean, it's a beautiful thing, I'm fairly sure it will sail away | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
-and find a new home. In fact, I wish -I -could buy it. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
-It's beautiful. -Thank you very much. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Back indoors, let's see what Charles has turned up. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
Now, I saw you in the queue outside that imposing facade | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
which is Sandon Hall, and what excited me is this clock still ticking now, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
this pocket watch, and, of course, it was ticking many years ago | 0:41:07 | 0:41:12 | |
-when this really was a home for a family. -That's correct, yes. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
The watch belongs to my mother-in-law, Dorothy, and Dorothy | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
and her husband George were working here for the Earl and Countess. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:25 | |
Dorothy was a maid to the Countess, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
and George was the chauffeur. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
-Really? -And so while they were living here, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
then the watch would be here on the premises. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
And tell me, we're talking about the Earl and Countess, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
take me back, how far are we going in Sandon's history? | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
To when they were living and working here. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
They were living here in the 1950s, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
through to the early '60s, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
so most of the '50s. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
My husband was brought up here, at the hall. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
I love Sandon Hall, because it's quite a sleepy hall, still. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
-It's beautiful. It's never lost its charm of when it was a family home. -Yeah. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
And of course, if this pocket watch | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
could talk about the conversations it would have enjoyed | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
in this dining room... | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
-That's right... -With its gorgeous Chinese wallpaper and of course, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
even conversations and discussions between the maid who was your... | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
-Mum-in-law, Dorothy. -Dorothy, and the Countess. -That's right. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
-And that's one of those moments. -That's right, yes, yes. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
-It wasn't a gift from the Earl, was it, at all? -No, not at all. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
Dorothy's great-grandmother gave it to Dorothy's grand-mother | 0:42:26 | 0:42:31 | |
for her 21st birthday. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
This actually is a very pretty Swiss pocket watch. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
-OK, it has a German outer case. -Right. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
And the actual pocket watch movement is really... | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
Well, it was made in that centre of excellence | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
which was Switzerland in the late 19th century. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
We've got the key, first and foremost, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
-which is lovely. -It's pretty, isn't it? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
The actual back and dust cover is all in good condition, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
and of course if we just lift that back-plate off, we can see | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
the movement, it's a typical 15-jewel pocket watch movement | 0:43:03 | 0:43:08 | |
of around 1890. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
-Right. -And, is it now time, here at Sandon Hall to say, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
let's flog it? | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
Well, what Dorothy's said is, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:18 | |
she can't leave it to one person in the family, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
she's got so many grand-children | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
and great-grandchildren, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
so she feels that it's the time to let it go. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
-And Dorothy is alive and firing, well? -Absolutely. Yes. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
I love it a lot. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:32 | |
I think it's an endearing little pocket watch. Intrinsically, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
not worth a great deal, but we would love to give it | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
a send-off with a guide price of between, let's say, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
-£40 and £60. -Oh, really? Yes, yeah, OK. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
It's very nice, perhaps put a reserve on with discretion, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
maybe if we bid 35, we can say au revoir. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
It's important to let somebody else enjoy its wonderful history. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
Is that OK? | 0:43:57 | 0:43:58 | |
-That's fine. -Can we say we're going to start going... Going... -Going... | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
-Gone. -Gone. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:03 | |
That brings us to our final valuation. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
Christina's in the conservatory, and about to bring the house down. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
Now, Catherine, normally when autograph books come to my table, | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
I sort of start flicking through, and I'm flicking through yours, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
and I thought, "This one looks really exciting!". | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
Tell me how you've managed to accumulate ALL these autographs in this book. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
The autograph album belonged to my aunt, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
and she gave it to me when I was about nine years old. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
-Wonderful. -I didn't bother to collect any after that | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
until I started as a teenager going to the clubs in Manchester, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
so we used to go to concerts and see Billy Fury | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
and people like that. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
And then it was 1963, I'd gone over | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
to my aunt's to stay in Jersey | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
with a friend, and she told us that | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
-the Beatles were staying in a hotel just down the road. -No! | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
We were so disinterested in The Beatles, | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
because we were from Manchester and they were Liverpool | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
but we were in the flat one day, and Paul McCartney was literally walking | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
down the road to the hotel on his own, coming back from shopping. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
So we went out with a writing pad and he autographed that. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
So, that was then stuck in my album, and then the year after, | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
when I went with a local girl to see The Rolling Stones | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
who were over, they'd performed at a concert. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
The day after, my aunt ran us up to the airport | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
so that we could wave them off. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
We were the only two fans who went up to the airport. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
We were tipped off by the airport staff that they wouldn't be | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
coming through the terminal, they'd be going to a side entrance, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
and straight onto the tarmac, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:29 | |
-so they showed us which gate to wait at. -Wow! | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
Insider information, I love it, Catherine! My goodness! | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
We waited at the gate, we were there most of the day, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
but then the taxi came, they got out, | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
they were a few yards away from us, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
but they waved and said, "Hi" | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
and the manager came over | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
and took our albums over and we watched them sign them, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
and then they waved to us and they got in the plane and flew off. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
-Oh, brilliant! -So... And it was really good, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
because of course it was Brian Jones, you know... | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
-Brian Jones passed away, didn't he? -Yes, exactly, yes. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
-So you got Brian Jones. -So I got Brian Jones. -Oh, my goodness. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
And one of them, we didn't know which one, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
but one of them wrote, "The Rolling Stones" | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
and put a circle around it in the middle of the page, so... | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
So this really brings back some fantastic memories for you, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
-doesn't it? -Oh, yeah. Mm. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:12 | |
And the fact that you've collected these yourself... | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
This book does read a bit like | 0:46:14 | 0:46:15 | |
-a who's-who of the 1960s music scene. -Exactly. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
You know, you've got Cliff Richard, you've got the Stones, | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
you've got Paul McCartney... You've got some great names in here. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
I mean, it is a very impressive autograph book. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
So how much do you think waiting at an airport for a day is worth? | 0:46:26 | 0:46:32 | |
I know, it's incredible, really. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
What's Catherine's time worth, for a day waiting at an airport? | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
Well, I mean, in those days, it didn't matter, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
I mean, I've waited for a day here at "Flog It!" | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
-so there's not much difference. -This is very true. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
I mean, it was just so exciting, we couldn't believe that we were | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
the only two fans who'd bothered to go up to the airport | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
-and wait all day. -They do all obviously have a value, | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
and we can put a value on each and every one of them. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
Having totted them all up, I think | 0:46:59 | 0:47:00 | |
an appropriate auction estimate for them would be | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
-somewhere in the region of £200 to £300. -That's amazing, really. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
Yeah. Brilliant, yeah. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:09 | |
-I just think it's wonderful. Thank you so much for bringing it in. -Oh, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
-well, thank you. -It's been lovely to see and hear all about it, as well. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
Cos so often, as valuers, we see these books, | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
but we never know the story, the human side behind it. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
It's just a faceless book, if you like. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
So hearing your stories, and hearing that you've collected these | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
yourself is brilliant, so thank you so much for sharing that with us. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
And, I mean, for me, I've got the memories, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
which I can think of any time, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
whereas the book's just in a drawer, so... | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
Catherine's stories of the swinging '60s alongside | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
those autographs are priceless. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
It just goes to show, it's worth looking after things. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
One of my great loves, Elaine, as a young man, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
which really he got me into the whole psyche of antiques, | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
and asking that question, "If it could talk, what could it tell us?", | 0:47:51 | 0:47:56 | |
was using my metal detector, digging up metal, | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
-which I had no idea what it was. -Yeah, very exciting. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
If I'd found these in the soil, I may have thought, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
"Well, it could be part of a tractor. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
"Maybe it could be part of a horse shoe." | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
But of course, these objects have a pedigree and provenance, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:19 | |
which is so important. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
If I put on a bit of a twang and became a pirate, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
what might romanticise people is, of course, they are pieces of eight. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:30 | |
Yes. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:31 | |
-Real treasure. Real booty. -Yeah, it's very exciting. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
But in 1707, that great 96-gun vessel HMS Association | 0:48:34 | 0:48:40 | |
sunk off Sicily, and lost at sea were all of these pieces of eight, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:46 | |
and of course, last century, unearthed | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
in that great London saleroom... | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
My boyfriend bought them as a gift, one for my father | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
and one for myself, and from the original sale in 1969. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
Wonderful. And, of course, we can go back to 1707, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
when piracy was prolific on the high seas, | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
and at that time, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:06 | |
pieces of eight were really the world's first currency, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
which could be exchanged between continents, and also countries. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
And these are very well-worn, very far removed from looking | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
like coins, but when it comes to treasure, this really is treasure, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:24 | |
-and I love them. Yeah, I really do. So you've got the two. -Yes. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
I can see one casing is in good condition, which is yours, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
I presume. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
-What happened? -I can't lie. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:34 | |
My father was more experienced than myself, and he kept his very well, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
and I was foolish and didn't keep mine in such good condition. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
Yeah, it's had some damp-proofing. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
You've taped it all up, but really, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
although when it comes to toys, the boxes are so important, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
but with these sleeves, they're not so important, | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
because they are still evident as to what they represent, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
but, of course, | 0:49:55 | 0:49:56 | |
what is the most important is these two wonderful pieces of eight. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
I think they're worth today, at auction... | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
Got to be careful, because if they were in really great condition, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
they'd have been £1,000, if they were really clean and legible. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:12 | |
So I would hope we could perhaps put them | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
into the sale, perhaps with a guide price | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
of between £200 and £300, | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
-for the two together... -OK. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
..and perhaps put a fixed reserve on of £150. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
Yes, I think I'd like a reserve, just because it's been so exciting. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
Yeah. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:32 | |
Swashbuckling tales of shipwreck and sunken treasure, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
conjured up by those tiny nuggets of ocean plunder. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
What a day we've had here at Sandon Hall. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
Everyone has thoroughly enjoyed themselves | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
and our experts have found some real treasures, so sadly, it's time | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
to say goodbye to this magnificent host location. Right now, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
we're dropping in on the auction room for the very last time. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
And here's a list of the treasures we're taking with us. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
This elegant necklace made for Derry's grandmother | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
is a true one-off. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:04 | |
A return visit to Sandon Hall for this elegant lady's pocket watch. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
A bargain for a lot of craftsmanship and history. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
And Catherine's autograph book includes what some collectors | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
might consider a Holy Grail - | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
all five of the original Rolling Stones, including Brian Jones. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:24 | |
Elaine's pieces of eight are survivors of an incredible true tale | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
of shipwreck and treasure. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
Back at the sale-room, first, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
it's Elaine's sunken treasure. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
Why would you want to sell, though? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
Um, well, they're just sort of sitting there, you know. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
They're not really doing anything, and "Flog It!" | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
was coming to town. Could I resist you? | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
-Not really. -Yeah. I think it's the first time ever | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
we've had pieces of eight on the show. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:52 | |
It's that romance. Pieces of eight, and here they are. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
Is that how you say it? | 0:51:55 | 0:51:56 | |
IMITATES PARROT: "Pieces of eight. Pieces of eight." | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
-Aye-aye, Captain. -Long John Silver. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
-Two pieces of eight... -Hold tight. -Sotheby's. HMS Association. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
Auctioned 1969. Ha-ha. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
There they are at £120. Two pieces of eight at 120. 130. 140. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:14 | |
-At £140 now. At £140. All finished, then? -Come on. One more. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:21 | |
-Oh, no. I'm walking the plank. -You are walking the plank, Charles. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
-I'm sinking fast. -Not today for those, I'm afraid. Lot 56. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
-We didn't sell... We were one bid away. One bid away. -One bid away! | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
-I'm sorry. Sorry, Captain. -Well, it was so close, Charles. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
"Sorry, Captain"! Yes. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:37 | |
Well, my son's over there. He'll inherit them. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
Well, that... Hey, that's even better, isn't it? | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
-A thumbs up, yeah. -Keep them in the family. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
Now Ann's pocket watch. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
Ann, I like this watch. I love this little lady's fob watch. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
It's not a lot of money, Charles. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
I know it's not top-quality, but it's still working, isn't it? | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
-It is. -And very good condition. It's very usable. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
This is a steal for me at £40. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
If I could buy it, I would, because I think it's worth every penny. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
Hopefully it'll go for a lot more, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:02 | |
-and then I won't be disappointed, and nor will you. -No. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
-And you'll be very happy. -Indeed. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:06 | |
It's going under the hammer right now. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
OK, 135, the lady's sterling silver pocket watch at £30, now at 30. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:14 | |
Where's five? At £30, it is, at 35 now. £35. At 35, 40, where? | 0:53:14 | 0:53:20 | |
At £35... 35, we're going to sell it then, at £35. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:25 | |
GAVEL BANGS | 0:53:25 | 0:53:26 | |
Well it's gone, it's gone. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
Hopefully to someone who loves it and is going to use it. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
-Yeah, and it's been so lovely having the "Flog It!" experience. -Aww... | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
So it's been wonderful. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
Well, the programme wouldn't work without people like you, or you, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
so if you've got anything like that, we would love to "Flog It!". | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
Bring it along to one of our valuation days. Details of | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
up-and-coming dates and venues you can find on our BBC website. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
If you don't have a computer, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:48 | |
check the details in your local press, because fingers crossed, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
we're coming to an area very near you soon. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
So, dust 'em down, bring them in, we'll flog them. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
And here's another interesting item. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
GAVEL BANGS | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
Good luck, Derry! This necklace belonged to your grandmother. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
Why are you selling this? | 0:54:06 | 0:54:07 | |
Well, I've had it in a cupboard for 40 years, | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
and what's the point, really? | 0:54:09 | 0:54:10 | |
-Well, if you don't wear it... -Do you wear it? -No. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
May have worn it when I first had it, but wouldn't wear it now. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
-OK, will we get that top end? -Seriously hope so. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
I mean, it's a beautiful necklace. Really beautiful. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
And it's got its original box and it's just got everything | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
-going for it, it's absolutely stunning. -And the condition's good. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
Yeah, it's in white gold, so it's very commercial. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
It's a lovely thing, a very lovely thing. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
-It's what people will pay for it. -This is true! -Fingers crossed! | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
Let's find out what the bidders think, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:35 | |
it's going under the hammer now. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
Lot 85, good lot, this. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:40 | |
The 18-carat white gold and pearl | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
pendant necklace at 100... 10... | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
120... £120 now. At 120, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
at £120, 130 where? | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
-Come on, come on, come on. -So are we all finished, then? At £120, at 120. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:57 | |
-Not today for this one. -Didn't sell. -OK. -Do you know... | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
It's a fashion thing. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
Well, thank goodness you protected it with a reserve. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
-Yeah, exactly right. -So we didn't let it go for nothing. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
-OK, so I haven't made my fortune. -Another day, another sale. -Aw! | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
Well, that brings us to our final lot of the day. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
Catherine's included some signed photographs | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
and fan letters to go alongside her autograph book. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
Catherine, I love these autographs. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
I'm a big Stones fan. I really am. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
You're either Beatles or you're The Stones. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
-The Stones. -Oh, Rolling Stones! | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
-There is a Beatle in there, isn't there? -Yes, Paul McCartney. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
-Do you still listen to The Rolling Stones? -Oh, definitely. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
-Yeah, so do I. -I've got all their albums. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
Hopefully, hopefully we'll have some rock and roll fans here. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
-Rock and roll memorabilia, here we go. -Here we go. -This is it. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
Lot 200 is the collection of rock and pop autographs. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
-to include the Rolling Stones of course, as well... -Rolling who? | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
-I'm joking, I'm joking! -..various other signatures... | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
So I can start here 170, 80, 190... £190 now, 190. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
£190, 200, 210. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
220... Internet now. At 230, 240, 250, at 260. Still going up, 270. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:12 | |
280, 290, 300. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
-At 320. -That's fantastic! -At £320, 320, 340, 360, 380, £400. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:22 | |
-At £400, at 420, 440. -This is more like it. -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:27 | |
460, 480. £500, 550. 550? | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
Are you all right?! | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
600. At £600? At £600. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
All finished, then. No? 650. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
-At £650. -Still going! | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
One more, internet? Yes. 700. £700. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
At £700. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:47 | |
700. 50 again, yes or no? | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
At £700. Selling it, then, at £700. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
Anybody else at £700? All done, 700... | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
GAVEL BANGS | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
-Well done! -Oh, fantastic! Well done, you! | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
Thank you for bringing those in. Big, big Stones fan. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
Thank you for inviting me to come along. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
Aww, you go back and put the album on and put it on full volume. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
I do that in the car - | 0:57:10 | 0:57:11 | |
it's the only chance I can listen to The Rolling Stones, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
cos, you know, my kids don't like it, my wife doesn't like it - | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
I get in the car and I go, "Yeah!" | 0:57:16 | 0:57:17 | |
All of a sudden I feel like Mick Jagger. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
But that was, I mean, you waited there for so long, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
-didn't you, at the airport? -Oh, yeah. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
But that's what you do when you're a dedicated fan... | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
-When you're a fan, absolutely... -There was no-one else there. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
Anyway, thank you so much for bringing that in. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
Great way to end today's show. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:33 | |
We really topped the charts, didn't we, with that one? | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
I hope enjoyed it. Join us again soon for many more surprises. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
But until then, from Shrewsbury, it's goodbye. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 |