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This beautiful stately home, surrounded by wooded parkland

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just a few miles north of Stafford, is Sandon Hall,

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the ancestral home of the Harrowbys.

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It's been in the same family for nine generations -

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that's 250 years of British history.

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It's the perfect location for Flog It! Welcome to the show.

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The almost Gothic appearance of Sandon Hall doesn't quite

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prepare you for the riot of light and colour inside.

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This rare Chinese wallpaper is all hand-painted

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and every single bird is different.

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Sandon Hall is a stern-looking building

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built in the neo-Jacobean style, very popular with the Victorians.

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And in keeping with its style,

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this stately crowd have turned up, laden with antiques

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and collectables, here to see our experts to find out what it's worth.

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And if you're happy with the valuations,

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-what are you going to do? CROWD:

-Flog It!

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Helping them to do just that are experts, Charles Hanson...

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I'm going over here. It's often the back of the queue where the treasures are really lurking.

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Oh, Charles, someone's beaten you to it.

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-Quickly, before Charlie Hanson comes over.

-It's Christina Trevanion.

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Let's sticker everyone back here, you're all mine!

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And now they can't give it away.

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-Is it a "Flog it" for you today or...?

-Oh, yes, yeah, yeah, definitely.

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-I think it's one for you.

-I think it's one for you.

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-I think it's your type.

-I think it's definitely...

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Chill out, guys, there's plenty for everyone.

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First, let's see what's coming up on today's show.

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Christina's transported back to the swinging '60s.

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-This book does read a bit like a Who's Who of the 1960s music scene.

-Exactly.

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For once, we're speechless at the auction room.

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Huh.

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And I find out about some fabulous females at Sandon Hall.

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-I'll let you into a secret, too.

-What are you going to tell me?

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And now it's time to get this massive crowd inside.

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We've literally taken over all of the ground floor.

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Hundreds of people have turned up.

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We need to find some treasures of our very own to take off to auction.

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And we're going to make a start, right now, with Charles Hanson.

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Margaret, what an amazing object.

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-Thank you.

-It frivolous.

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It's floral.

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-It's almost outrageous.

-Yeah!

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Where did it come from?

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-A boot sale. I paid a pound for it.

-Recently?

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About a year ago.

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May I come with you next time to the car boot?

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Because it would have been one of a pair.

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-Maybe the pair has long since been demolished...

-Yeah.

-..and broken...

-Yeah.

-..and lost in time.

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-Any ideas how old this is?

-'30s.

-You're right.

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-But 1830s.

-18?!

-Absolutely.

-God.

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So we're going back to a time when William IV was King of England

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and to a time when we saw the early Victorians reviving

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the fashion for rococo.

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-And in this room, here, look at the wallpaper behind us.

-Yeah.

-It's frivolous.

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It's chinoiserie.

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And this is the Victorians almost reviving the vigour of the rococo.

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On the bottom, there's no markings at all...

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No, that's what I couldn't understand. There's no marking on there.

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No, it's what we generically call Coalbrookdale.

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And, of course, Coalbrookdale was a Staffordshire, or even Shropshire,

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factory founded near Ironbridge in the late 18th century.

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And by 1813 the factory was obviously wanting to

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be at the forefront of design.

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And it really is that. Because look at the flowers.

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All these mouldings have been hand-applied

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onto the actual body of the porcelain.

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It really is, to me, a work of art.

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We have got some issues.

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-The tip of the handle...

-Yeah.

-..here, has been lost.

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-There's a hairline crack on the rim...

-Yeah.

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-..there. You got losses here.

-Yeah.

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You've got chips to the flowers,

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but it's just a real glint of joy, in my eyes.

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Yeah, and I think by the time

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we're that age, we'll have a few chips and dents.

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Well, I have already, trust me.

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-Does this go in your decor? Is it your style at home?

-Not really, no.

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But I love anything that, I think, took a long time to make.

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Why would those holes be in there?

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-To show the extreme quality of what these potters could achieve.

-Yeah.

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It was almost a dare, this vase.

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-It was daring...

-Yeah.

-..and they achieved it

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-and you want to flog it?

-Yeah.

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These were making far more in the 1970s, '80s,

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-when we thought a bit more about the traditional.

-Yeah.

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I think if I can guide it perhaps between 30 and £40.

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-That's OK.

-And perhaps put a fixed reserve at 25,

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but I love it for what it represents.

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-OK, then.

-Let's go for it.

-Yeah.

-All set?

-Yeah.

-Hold tight. Can't wait.

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A car boot fan to start the show.

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Now, let's see what Christina's unearthed.

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Helen, this is a very eclectic little mix of coins

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-you've brought to me here.

-Yes.

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-They've come through the family and that's how we've got them.

-OK, all right.

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-So, you, sort of, inherited all these?

-Yes.

-OK.

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So, this one here is the earliest

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-and, I think, the most fascinating.

-Right.

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It's what we call a long cross penny.

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But the thing, for me, that I find quite fascinating...

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We've got this wonderful little portrait

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of what looks to be a little boy with curly hair and a crown on.

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Well, THAT is Edward II.

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-He doesn't look particularly regal there, does he?

-No.

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But he dates to about 1307 to 1327.

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That's when he reigned.

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And that, I mean, most normal people at that date

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wouldn't often see a portrait of their monarch.

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So, it was fascinating to them to have this portrait on a coin.

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It was really the only way that it could be reinforced that this was your monarch.

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Where did that come from?

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Well, it was from our land which has a path through to the church,

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so we presumed that it must have been, you know,

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when people were walking to church.

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-Ah. OK, so it was found?

-Yes.

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-You'd be gutted when you looked for your collection money and then...

-And that was it.

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But I do find this quite fascinating.

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There is 700 years worth of history here, in the form of this coin

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and, often, from this period there was a bit of a practice

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going on called coin clipping.

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-Right. Yes.

-And that's because this coin is made of solid silver.

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People would clip just the sides off the coin.

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So, they'd be taking a little bit of silver

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-and it was still worth the same amount of money even if it was clipped.

-Right.

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But, obviously,

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these rather skullduggerous people, if they were, would be

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collecting all these little bits of silver which, individually,

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wouldn't be worth a huge amount,

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-but imagine if you did that to a few hundred coins?

-Yes.

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-I mean, that would be worth doing, wouldn't it?

-Yes.

-Especially during those times.

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There was huge poverty in places.

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It was a very tumultuous period.

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If we move on to the gold coin,

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here, if we turn it over,

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we've got a picture of George III and it says round the edge, here,

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"Georgius III" and, then,

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if we turn him back that way,

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we've got a nice little date on the bottom here,

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which I think says 1797.

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Now, it is quite worn. You can still get these where you see, literally,

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-every wisp and every strand of hair.

-Right.

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You can still get them in perfect condition.

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And if they're like that, they are wonderfully collectable

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-and incredibly valuable.

-Yes.

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If they're in this condition, unfortunately, it is going to be

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-just the gold value...

-Yes.

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-..because these are made of 22-carat gold.

-Yes.

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So they do have an intrinsic value to them as well.

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Again, if they've been mounted or they've been turned into a pendant like this,

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-coin collectors are really quite purist about it...

-Yes.

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..and they don't like things that have been turned into pendants.

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And then we've got this shilling here, dated 1896,

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which I THINK is an African one. Is that right?

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Yes, South African, yes.

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My maternal grandfather was in the Boer War.

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Er, so, I presume it's come from there.

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Again, cos it's been turned into a pendant,

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-coin collectors won't be interested...

-No.

-..in it, sadly, any more.

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-So, unfortunately, we don't have a huge amount of value.

-No.

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I have sold quite a few little long cross pennies

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and although they are incredibly old,

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-I mean, the last one I sold, I think, made about £30.

-Yes.

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-So your main value is the gold value...

-Yes.

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..in this wonderful gold George III coin here.

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And I think, as a group, we're probably looking

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-somewhere in the region of maybe 150 to £200.

-Yes.

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-How do you feel about that?

-That sounds very good to me. Yes.

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-Would that be all right?

-Yes, that would be fine.

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-And we'll hope that gold price zooms up between now and the auction.

-Yes.

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-Keep everything crossed.

-Thank you very much.

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While the valuations are going on,

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I've met up with Caroline Sandon, the current lady of the house,

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to hear about the achievements of some of her predecessors,

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starting with the 2nd Countess who lived here in the early 1800s.

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She is the daughter of the 1st Marquess of Bute,

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Frances Coutts Stuart. And she's absolutely lovely.

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She's holding the future 3rd Earl,

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and I think it's the most serene portrait.

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However, the 2nd Countess was, actually, quite imperious.

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They lived a lot of the time in Italy and when they came

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back from Italy, they were going to rebuild Sandon Hall

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and they commissioned the architect William Burn to build this

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marvellous, huge, neo-Jacobean house.

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Now, Countess decided that having lived in Italy,

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-she wanted large, Italian windows in her neo-Jacobean house.

-Sure.

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And William Burn's pride was extremely hurt

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and for the next two years,

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apparently, they sacked each other,

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about 20 times, before finally

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coming to resolution and guess who won?

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-She did.

-LAUGHTER

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-And, in fact, we have huge, Italianate windows...

-Yeah.

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..and that is why and it's all her legacy so I am very grateful to her.

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I think women are so underrated in the 18th and 19th century

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and these women were quite powerful women and, actually, the next

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woman I've chosen was equally powerful and did some great things.

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Well, let's have a look.

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This is the 5th Countess who was the daughter of a rather

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famous bookseller, WH Smith.

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Oh, yes, I've heard of them.

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Absolutely. I think most people have.

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-What was her name?

-Mabel.

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And she did two things which she should take huge credit for.

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The first was that she opened a club in London

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for overseas officers from all over the Empire

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so that when they were on leave, the trenches or wherever,

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they had somewhere to come back to,

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and then Sandon itself became a Red Cross hospital,

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-auxiliary hospital, during the First World War...

-OK.

-..and she was an enormous part of that,

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so she was absolutely a tremendous woman.

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I like the photograph

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and I've just noticed it's taken a month before the Great War.

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-You've got Mabel there.

-That's her. In the centre, there.

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-She is. Lord Harrowby, my husband's great-grandmother.

-Gosh.

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-This is how life was in the great houses before the Great War.

-Mm-hm.

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And then, of course, everything changed and by the end

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of the Great War, half of these beautiful young men were dead.

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They say a picture tells a thousand stories

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and it's certainly true here at Sandon Hall.

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Now, back at the valuation tables, Charles is a happy boy.

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-George, good to see you today.

-Good to see you.

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And you've brought in a really interesting collection of wheels. Tell me about them.

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It's just what I've picked up at the car boot for the last five years.

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And had you gone there looking for these early, tin-plate,

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-clockwork toys?

-No.

-Or have you just been an enthusiast of all sorts?

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-All sorts.

-Have you had some good finds over the years?

-I have, yeah.

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-What's been your best find?

-Mainly little gadgets.

-Really?

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-I'm very much a gadget man, myself, so...

-Are you?

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-I'm a phone engineer by trade, so...

-Are you, phone?

-Mm-hm.

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Wow, and that, obviously, I suppose

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goes quite well with the technical nature of what were

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fairly mass-produced toys.

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-Yes.

-Have you a favourite?

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-I'd say that one.

-This gorgeous Express Transport vehicle here.

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-Have you done much detective work into them at all?

-A little.

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And what does this one tell you here?

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-I think it's from the '30s. Maybe mid-'30s.

-Yeah.

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-I mean, they are so simply made, aren't they?

-Yeah.

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Here's your clockwork, wind-up.

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-This one, I think, is still working.

-They all work, yeah.

-On the wire.

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Then, of course, off it goes like that

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and it's still expressing its speed in that regard.

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They're really...

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It's a really nice collection.

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Obviously, we've got the later Betal toys for girls

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and boys and they're just wonderful, aren't they?

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General transport, tin-plate with the wind-up key as well.

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Aren't they neat? And this one,

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I think...I think my father had one of these.

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So, it just brings back, I suppose,

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that childhood memory, doesn't it? They're good.

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Clearly, from the advertising slogans of what they're selling

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on the exterior, they are all British,

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they are all in that second quarter of the 20th century.

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Competitors with Germany and France in making similar

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vehicles of this clockwork type in that period.

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Now, they are what we call play worn.

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We can see, perhaps, some of them have been left outside,

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they've, perhaps, had some weathering.

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They've suffered wear and tear and, to me,

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condition, often, is part of its journey.

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It's had a life.

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They've been enjoyed, but to collectors who are pernickety

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when it comes to condition, they want the very best in this field.

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So, my advice would be, because of their condition,

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I would sell them as one lot. What have you spent on these tin-plate...?

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-About £75.

-Have you? Well done.

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I think we would put them in a sale

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with a guide price between 80 and £120.

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-Let's flog it!.

-Exactly. Can't wait. Can't wait.

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It just proves there's still treasure at car-boot sales.

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Well, here in Staffordshire, anyway.

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And now Christina's stepped outside for her next item.

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Alison, the thing I love about this mug is how much fun

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these guys look like they're having.

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-They do, don't they?

-It's just fab, isn't it?

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I mean, they are having a proper party on here.

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You've got some chap falling off a log.

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I mean, he's obviously had a few too many, hasn't he?

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Some chappie riding a horse over here,

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who looks like he's telling everyone what they should be doing.

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-I mean, it's a wonderful village scene, isn't it?

-Yes.

-From 1903.

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-Mm-hm.

-Where did it come from?

-Well, that's a very good question.

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My grandfather picked it up at some random auction or other,

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and it's been in the family as far back as I can remember...

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-OK.

-..and, you know, it's eventually come down to me.

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-Mm-hm. And you've inherited it, and now it's here today.

-It is, indeed.

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Well, when I first saw this, I have to confess I thought,

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"Hmm, that looks continental."

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Because this sort of quite high emboss work here,

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with the sort of background... is often continental,

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and we do see it, sort of early 20th century...

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-A lot was imported from Holland...

-Yes.

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..and the Low Countries, and we do see it in this country,

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and it was reassayed.

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-It was imported into this country and reassayed...

-OK.

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..and I've had a really good look, because often,

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when it was reassayed, when it was an import,

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they would stamp it F for foreign, which isn't very inventive,

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-really, F for foreign, but...

-No, but it's obvious.

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..that's what they did. Exactly. Yes, and we like that.

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So if we look at the mark I would expect to see

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that magic foreign F,

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and if we have a really good look, we've got GNRH, those initials

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in that shield shape there, which is for George Nathan and Ridley Hayes.

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We've got the lion passant for Sterling silver,

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three little wheat sheaves, which is the town mark for Chester,

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and that, funnily enough, was also my school badge,

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those wheat sheaves for Chester.

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-ALISON LAUGHS

-And then we've got the date letter,

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which is a curly, curly C, which is for 1903.

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-Right.

-So no F.

-No F.

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So it must have been a British piece of silver,

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which really surprises me. It's a little mug,

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and probably would have been used as a christening mug,

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or a presentation mug.

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The only thing that concerns me is we've got a little bit of a dent,

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here, which is slightly worrying,

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and you can also, on the high points,

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it has been cleaned quite vigorously, and the silver

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has actually worn away, so we've got a couple of little...

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That'll have been my gran.

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-Oh, really? Was she a good silver cleaner?

-Yes.

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-She gave it plenty of welly?

-Yes.

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But, I mean,

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I wouldn't hesitate to put about £50 to £100 on that at auction.

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-I think it's a great thing. Would you be happy with that?

-Yes.

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-Happy to flog it for that?

-Yes.

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-And would you like a reserve on it?

-I would.

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-What would you like your reserve to be, my love?

-Um...

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-Would 50 be realistic?

-I think £50 reserve is realistic.

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I think if we put an estimate of 50 to 100,

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maybe a discretionary reserve of 50 just in case we should need it...

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-Mm-hm.

-..but I think it's a lovely thing, and I wish I went

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to a few more parties that looked like they were as much fun as that.

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-Absolutely.

-THEY LAUGH

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Staffordshire is such a beautiful county.

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Shugborough Hall, the ancestral home of the Anson family,

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is set in a vast estate of beautifully landscaped grounds,

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and it's a fitting backdrop to the incredible career

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of one of its 18th-century sons.

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Mucking about with boats rates pretty highly

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on my list of things to do.

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I just love it, something I've probably got in common

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with a young boy who grew up here,

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and probably played at this very spot.

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He grew up to sail real ships across real oceans.

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In fact, he became only the second Englishman

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to circumnavigate the world.

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His name is George Anson, and he grew up here at Shugborough.

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He was born in 1697.

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It was his elder brother Thomas who would inherit the family title

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and estates, so, like all second sons,

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George had to seek other employment.

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So he joined the Royal Navy at the age of 14,

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quickly working his way up the ranks to his first command

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at the young age of 22, on a ship called the Weasel.

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Fortunately, this dreadful name for a vessel didn't affect

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the rest of his career.

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Eventually, he became First Lord of the Admiralty,

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but it was his epic voyage around the world in 1740

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for which he's most remembered.

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At the time of Anson's voyage around the world in 1740,

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Britain was engaged in a brutal and bloodthirsty war at sea with Spain.

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The aim was to weaken Spain's dominance over the trading markets

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of South America, and in doing so, give us greater access

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to its natural resources, its precious metals -

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particularly, silver.

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The fleet that set sail from England under Anson's command

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consisted of six warships, led by his flagship HMS Centurion,

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a formidable fighting ship capable of heavy-duty firepower.

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But this was no ordinary military campaign.

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Anson's orders, delivered to him on behalf of King George II,

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included instructions for a secret mission -

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to attack a Spanish treasure ship laden with Peruvian silver,

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as it made its way across the Pacific from Acapulco.

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But between them

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and those spoils of war lay the tempestuous seas of Cape Horn...

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..notorious for foul weather, violent gales, and thunderous waves.

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Battered by relentless storms,

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two of Anson's ships turned back to England.

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Their captains were later to face charges for desertion.

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A third ship was washed up onto the rocks off an island

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off the coast of Chile.

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When Anson finally reached China, he was left with one vessel,

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the Centurion, and a handful of men - some of whom, it was noted,

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had turned mad.

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Returning to England under these disastrous circumstances

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would have certainly marked the end of his naval career.

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Now, whether Anson's next decision was one of pure genius

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or sheer desperation, it's impossible to tell,

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but he decides to have one last attempt at catching up

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with the Spanish treasure ship as it was crossing

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the Pacific from Acapulco to Manila.

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Now, despite being in a patched-up ship with a crew

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of just over 200 men, half the size of a normal crew,

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Anson had the self-belief

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and the determination to command his crew to capture the Spanish vessel.

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As shown in this painting, Anson advanced on the enemy,

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and, at extremely close quarters,

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engaged the Spanish ship in fierce combat.

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Someone with first-hand experience of battle at sea

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is Rear Admiral Christopher Layman.

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With 35 years in the Royal Navy, he is also an expert on Anson's voyage.

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So talk me through what happened when these ships finally engaged.

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The chief difference between the two was that

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he was tremendously undermanned. He only had 200 men on board,

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and he should have had double that number, really,

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so he couldn't man all the guns.

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But he made the most of it, and his tactics were brilliant.

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There was no question of firing a proper broadside,

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which is firing all the guns off together, so instead of a guns crew

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-allocated to each gun, they had roving gangs...

-Right, OK.

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-..that went from gun to gun.

-Relay, like a tag team?

-In a relay.

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-It was desperate. They had to do it that way.

-It was desperate.

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Fighting for their lives, but they were also fighting for a fortune,

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because they all knew this was the Spanish treasure galleon.

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He'd been training for this for a month, you know?

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He'd been tacking up and down at the point, here,

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where he was expecting the galleon to arrive.

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Around the Philippines.

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That's right.

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And he got 30 of his best marksmen and put them in the tops,

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trained them every day, firing at targets,

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-rewarding the ones who were most accurate...

-Yeah.

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..and, of course, they did tremendous damage.

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-In the rigging, firing down...

-Picking off people.

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Picking off people, and first of all, I imagine,

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-accounting for the marksmen in the other ship...

-Yes.

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..in the other rigging.

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At least, that's the order I would do things.

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Get them out first, then get the officers...

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-That's right.

-..and then get the guys firing the cannons.

-Exactly.

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And, of course, while the musketeers

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were doing their work from the tops,

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the heavy guns were hammering the ship.

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-Right along the bow.

-That's right.

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-Very effective tactics.

-Mm.

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-And...

-With one of those?

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With one of these, and to be at the business end of that

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when it arrives is not a good place to be.

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You wouldn't know about it, would you?

0:23:330:23:35

That would go through the port side and out the starboard, would it?

0:23:350:23:38

It might well do that, and if you knew nothing about it,

0:23:380:23:41

you were one of the lucky ones.

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The others, who are wounded, mostly by splinters, probably...

0:23:420:23:47

Yes, cos that would ricochet.

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Huge splinters come from shipside,

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and give a nasty wound to anybody in the way.

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Very effective tactics. Worked very well.

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She surrendered with all the treasure intact.

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And each crewman, I gather, gets a part of that reward?

0:24:110:24:15

-He certainly does. A huge prize...

-Is it?

0:24:150:24:18

..which would set him up for life.

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Capturing the Spanish ship sealed Anson's reputation

0:24:230:24:26

as a great military commander when he returned to England.

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It took a staggering 32 wagons to transport the chests of treasure,

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containing mostly gold and silver coins, to the Tower of London,

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with an estimated worth, in today's money, of £15 million.

0:24:430:24:48

The Spanish treasure ship was the greatest prize ever captured at sea.

0:24:480:24:52

Not only had Anson delivered the gold the King of England

0:24:550:24:58

asked him to fight for, but in doing so, he circumnavigated

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the globe, ensuring his fame as well as his wealth.

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Now, and here's a quick reminder of what we're taking to auction.

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Nearly 200 years old,

0:25:180:25:19

this floral extravaganza in porcelain may have a few chips,

0:25:190:25:23

but it's still a spectacular example of local pottery.

0:25:230:25:27

Helen's coin collection travels even further back in history.

0:25:280:25:31

Just imagine losing the cross penny all those hundreds of years ago.

0:25:310:25:35

And George should reap the rewards

0:25:370:25:39

of building up his terrific collection

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of early 20th century tin-plate toys from car-boot sales.

0:25:410:25:45

The scene on this pretty silver christening mug

0:25:470:25:49

put Christina in the mood to party.

0:25:490:25:52

Well, the sun is shining and I've got a good feeling about today,

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because it is auction time

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and this is where we're putting those valuations to the test -

0:26:020:26:06

Halls Auctioneers' brand-new,

0:26:060:26:07

purpose-built saleroom just on the outskirts of Shrewsbury.

0:26:070:26:10

We're going inside now to catch up with the auction action. Sit tight.

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Anything can happen.

0:26:140:26:15

Jeremy Lamond is our auctioneer today

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and the commission here is 19% plus VAT.

0:26:200:26:23

First up, it's Helen's coin collection.

0:26:240:26:28

Heads or tails - it's your choice.

0:26:280:26:29

I've just been joined by Helen and Christina.

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Going under the hammer, we have some money. Those coins.

0:26:310:26:34

The long cross penny, George III gold coin and the shilling.

0:26:340:26:37

-We want top dollar for this money, don't we?

-We do, yes.

-Top shilling.

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Why are you selling, anyway?

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Well, I really went to find out about the valuation,

0:26:420:26:44

-and then it all goes on!

-Oh, you got your arm twisted, did you?

0:26:440:26:48

-I pounced.

-Hey, good choice, though, good choice.

-I love this lot, yeah.

0:26:480:26:51

Yeah, very good lot. Fingers crossed

0:26:510:26:53

there's 200 bidders here who feel likewise.

0:26:530:26:56

Lot 45.

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-I can start this one at £150.

-Ooh.

0:27:000:27:02

At 150. At £150. At 150. 160, where?

0:27:020:27:05

At £150, are we all done, then? At 150.

0:27:050:27:08

-Maiden bid.

-Selling at 150.

0:27:080:27:11

Straight out.

0:27:120:27:14

-It's not always that easy, is it?

-No, it isn't, is it?

0:27:140:27:17

-Fantastic. Well done.

-You're very happy with that, aren't you?

0:27:170:27:20

-That's fine. Thank you very much.

-Oh, brilliant, brilliant.

0:27:200:27:24

Short, but sweet.

0:27:240:27:25

Now, it's Margaret's Coalbrookdale vase.

0:27:250:27:27

Margaret got this at a car-boot sale a year ago for £1.

0:27:280:27:32

Yeah, and we're going to turn that £1 into 40 right now. Aren't we?

0:27:320:27:35

-Hopefully.

-We are. We are. You love your car boots, don't you?

0:27:350:27:38

-Yeah, I do.

-And, hopefully, we can send you back there with 30 or 40 quid in your pocket. Ready, Charles?

0:27:380:27:43

-I'm ready. Absolutely right.

-Let's do it. Here we go.

0:27:430:27:45

Who's going to start me at £30 for it? 30. 30 on the internet.

0:27:450:27:48

-Great.

-£30 I've got.

0:27:480:27:50

At £35 now. 40.

0:27:500:27:52

At £40, it's an internet bid.

0:27:520:27:54

At £40. Selling, then, at £40.

0:27:540:27:57

-Well done, you.

-Yeah.

-Where is this car-boot sale?

0:27:580:28:01

-Are we all allowed to know?

-Erm...

0:28:010:28:04

Is it a secret?

0:28:040:28:05

Yeah!

0:28:050:28:07

Wherever it is, I'm sure Margaret will be heading back for more bargains.

0:28:100:28:14

Next, it's Alison's silver christening mug.

0:28:140:28:17

-It was your grandfather's, wasn't it?

-Yes.

0:28:180:28:20

Was he ever christened with it? Was it a present...?

0:28:200:28:22

No, it was something he picked up at an auction.

0:28:220:28:24

Oh, he loved the auction scene, did he?

0:28:240:28:26

-Do you like auctions?

-This is the first one I've ever been to.

0:28:260:28:29

Is it really?

0:28:290:28:30

Oh, my goodness.

0:28:300:28:32

Have you got your eye on anything at all?

0:28:320:28:34

Uh, no. No, I daren't.

0:28:340:28:36

Keep your hands down, or else you might buy something.

0:28:360:28:39

Silver christening mug, Chester, 1903. There it is.

0:28:390:28:42

I'll start the bidding here at £50...

0:28:420:28:44

Oh, brilliant. There we go, straightaway.

0:28:440:28:47

..at £50. To a commission at £50. At £50 to a commission bid.

0:28:470:28:52

-Come on, a bit more.

-At £50. At 50.

0:28:520:28:55

All finished, then, at £50.

0:28:550:28:57

Selling... 5. Just in time. At £55. At 55.

0:28:570:29:00

GAVEL BANGS

0:29:010:29:02

-Done. 55.

-55. Little bit over bottom estimate.

0:29:020:29:04

-Yes. Well, somebody will enjoy it.

-Yes, let's hope so.

0:29:040:29:07

Well, it wasn't doing anything in your cabinet, was it?

0:29:070:29:10

It certainly wasn't.

0:29:100:29:11

Now for George's tin-plate toys.

0:29:110:29:13

George, I've got to keep my fingers crossed for you,

0:29:130:29:16

cos I think this one's going to be tight.

0:29:160:29:18

The tin-plate toys. I loved them to bits,

0:29:180:29:19

but they're a little bit play-worn for the collectors,

0:29:190:29:22

-aren't they? And how much did you pay?

-£75.

-75 quid at a car boot.

0:29:220:29:25

We've got to get your money back. We're looking for 80 plus.

0:29:250:29:28

We are, yes, and they are play-worn.

0:29:280:29:30

-Yeah.

-But it's the man's heritage.

0:29:300:29:32

-OK.

-Over the years, you've bought them. They're great.

0:29:320:29:34

OK. We're going to put them to the test. Here we go.

0:29:340:29:37

240. Various mid-20th-century,

0:29:380:29:41

tin-plate, clockwork toys.

0:29:410:29:43

I can start this lot at £75.

0:29:430:29:46

75. Great.

0:29:460:29:47

It's on the net, now, at £100.

0:29:470:29:50

110. 120. 130. 130 now.

0:29:500:29:53

140 in the room. 150 on the net.

0:29:530:29:55

160 in the room. 170.

0:29:550:29:58

170. It's an internet bid, now.

0:29:580:29:59

180, internet, still. 190, now.

0:29:590:30:02

At 190. 200. 210. 220.

0:30:020:30:05

220. £220. Are we all finished? 230.

0:30:050:30:08

-240. 240.

-Amazing.

-£240.

0:30:080:30:10

-I'm speechless.

-I am, as well.

0:30:100:30:12

-Just shows what you find in car boots.

-£240.

0:30:120:30:14

Selling to an internet bidder.

0:30:140:30:15

All finished, then. At £240. 240.

0:30:150:30:19

KNOCKS HAMMER

0:30:190:30:20

£240. Hammer's gone down. Well done, you.

0:30:200:30:22

-You took me by surprise - and you.

-Very much so.

0:30:220:30:24

That's just incredible.

0:30:240:30:26

The collectors overlooked the condition. There was something they really wanted in that lot,

0:30:260:30:30

and they just got it. And so did you!

0:30:300:30:32

You got 240 quid. You made a big profit.

0:30:320:30:34

-Is it back to the car boot?

-On Sunday.

-On Sunday. Well done.

0:30:340:30:38

Look out for Margaret! That's our first visit to the auction.

0:30:380:30:41

Now, before we return to our valuation day venue to find

0:30:420:30:46

some more treasures to put under the hammer here,

0:30:460:30:48

I'm going to be the curious house guest and find out

0:30:480:30:50

something about some of the women in Sandon's history.

0:30:500:30:54

Looking back through British history,

0:31:070:31:09

you could be forgiven for thinking it's a man's world.

0:31:090:31:12

Well, it's certainly a male-dominated one, judging by the portraits

0:31:120:31:15

you come across at most stately homes, like here,

0:31:150:31:18

in the Great Hall at Sandon.

0:31:180:31:21

But we know that's only half the story and only half the history.

0:31:210:31:26

Here at Sandon Hall,

0:31:290:31:30

it's the women of the family who are first to greet you.

0:31:300:31:34

Dominating the Great Hall is this painting of the Three Graces -

0:31:340:31:37

in this case, the three daughters

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of Thomas Coutts, the famous London banker.

0:31:390:31:43

Now, not only is this is painting of women,

0:31:430:31:44

but it's also a painting BY a woman -

0:31:440:31:46

Angelika Kauffmann,

0:31:470:31:49

one of the rising stars of the 18th-century art world,

0:31:490:31:51

and the fact that this is the first thing you see

0:31:510:31:53

when entering this great house

0:31:530:31:55

says a lot about the importance of women to this family.

0:31:550:31:58

It was commissioned by Thomas Coutts

0:32:010:32:03

during a visit to Angelika Kauffmann's studio

0:32:030:32:05

in Rome, in 1791.

0:32:050:32:07

To find out more about the artist,

0:32:080:32:10

I'm joined by art historian Dr Clare Barlow.

0:32:100:32:13

For a woman to succeed in the 18th century

0:32:140:32:17

as a professional artist was a very unusual thing.

0:32:170:32:20

How did Angelika discover her talent for painting?

0:32:200:32:23

Well, she's very fortunate in that

0:32:230:32:25

she has an extremely enlightened father,

0:32:250:32:27

and her father is also a painter,

0:32:270:32:29

and she grows up in Switzerland

0:32:290:32:32

and Italy and has an amazing exposure to the arts.

0:32:320:32:36

Crucially, the major problem for women in the arts is that they

0:32:360:32:41

can't attend life-drawing classes,

0:32:410:32:43

because it would be indecorous

0:32:430:32:45

-for them to see naked bodies.

-Sure.

0:32:450:32:47

But, because he takes her to Rome,

0:32:470:32:49

she's able to learn from the classical sculptures,

0:32:490:32:52

and learn anatomy, and that proves absolutely crucial to her career.

0:32:520:32:56

She benefits from the fact that in the 18th century,

0:32:560:32:59

there's a real desire to celebrate female talent.

0:32:590:33:04

And although it's harder for a woman to get launched,

0:33:040:33:08

once she is launched, there's a huge audience

0:33:080:33:11

-who are desperate...

-Everybody's interested.

0:33:110:33:13

..to appreciate her work.

0:33:130:33:15

Yes! And she has this unique selling point, which is

0:33:150:33:18

really helpful for her.

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I mean, just looking at that, you can see

0:33:190:33:21

she is an exceptional talent, can't you?

0:33:210:33:23

Oh, she absolutely is, and one of the lovely things about it, too,

0:33:230:33:26

is it's a portrait of WOMEN, by Angelika Kauffmann.

0:33:260:33:29

Kauffmann is really famous for her depictions of women, and that

0:33:290:33:33

makes her the perfect artist to be promoting these girls.

0:33:330:33:37

And some of the young sitters would be more comfortable with

0:33:370:33:40

a female artist as well.

0:33:400:33:41

And some of the families too, because, of course,

0:33:410:33:44

painting is seen as a slightly erotic art,

0:33:440:33:46

that, you know, you have to really pay attention to the sitter,

0:33:460:33:49

and really think about what they look like,

0:33:490:33:52

and obviously, taking your eligible

0:33:520:33:54

young ladies to a female artist

0:33:540:33:56

is, perhaps, more decorous.

0:33:560:33:57

And it's fascinating!

0:33:570:33:59

The fact that they're in front of a bust of Minerva,

0:33:590:34:01

that's very significant, because they don't only have beauty,

0:34:010:34:05

And they clearly have wealth because they're being depicted by such

0:34:050:34:08

a fashionable artist, but they also, in Minerva, have wisdom.

0:34:080:34:12

She's the Goddess of Chastity and the Goddess of Wisdom,

0:34:120:34:16

and I think that suggests their father is really promoting them

0:34:160:34:21

-as having the whole package.

-Do we know what happened to the girls?

0:34:210:34:25

Well, we know that they made extremely good marriages,

0:34:250:34:28

so clearly it worked!

0:34:280:34:29

But it's Frances, the middle daughter, who's the connection

0:34:290:34:32

to the Harrowby family.

0:34:320:34:33

She marries First Marquess of Bute

0:34:330:34:37

-and it's her daughter who marries the second Earl of Harrowby.

-Right.

0:34:370:34:41

-So that's why it's here.

-Absolutely.

0:34:410:34:43

Sandon Hall has another great painting that puts women

0:34:470:34:51

centre stage -

0:34:510:34:52

this striking portrait of Lady Mary Wortley Montagu,

0:34:520:34:55

the pioneering 18th-century traveller,

0:34:550:34:57

famous for her writings about the Middle East.

0:34:570:35:01

Unfortunately, the original is behind the scenes at the moment,

0:35:010:35:04

we can't see it, so this is a photographic copy.

0:35:040:35:08

Is Lady Mary well known?

0:35:080:35:10

She is one of the absolute celebrities

0:35:100:35:12

of the early 18th century.

0:35:120:35:14

Certainly in her day, she was remarkably famous.

0:35:140:35:17

Who's the little black boy?

0:35:170:35:19

There is a sort of convention in some Western portraits,

0:35:190:35:23

of having elegant ladies with a black page boy in attendance.

0:35:230:35:28

Actually, in the Ottoman Empire,

0:35:280:35:31

child slaves tended to be white, rather than black.

0:35:310:35:34

I mean, I think this could possibly be a reference

0:35:340:35:38

to the exoticism of the environment that she's coming from.

0:35:380:35:42

Her husband is the Ambassador to Turkey.

0:35:420:35:45

And she goes with him.

0:35:450:35:47

Because she's a woman, she can go into spaces which men

0:35:470:35:51

can't go, like the harem, and that becomes this whole sensation.

0:35:510:35:56

And when she comes back to London,

0:35:560:35:57

Turkish fashion becomes THE most popular masquerade dress.

0:35:570:36:01

-But I'll let you into a secret, too.

-OK, go on, what's that?

0:36:010:36:04

If you met Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, her face wouldn't have

0:36:040:36:08

looked like the face in the portrait,

0:36:080:36:10

because, as a young woman, she'd had smallpox, and that had left her with

0:36:100:36:13

terrible scarring, and it had also meant that she had no eyelashes.

0:36:130:36:18

-Oh, dear.

-Which was terribly sad.

0:36:180:36:21

But it didn't hold her back in the slightest.

0:36:210:36:24

Through what I can only imagine is force of character,

0:36:240:36:27

she still managed to launch this amazing career,

0:36:270:36:31

and possibly partly because of her own experience, she helped

0:36:310:36:35

to bring smallpox inoculations back from Turkey with her

0:36:350:36:39

and she helped to encourage British aristocrats back in England

0:36:390:36:43

to have their children inoculated.

0:36:430:36:45

-So she saved a lot of lives.

-Wise lady!

0:36:450:36:48

-She was definitely the "It girl" of the day, wasn't she?

-Absolutely.

0:36:480:36:51

Well, I certainly enjoyed looking at these items here at Sandon Hall

0:36:580:37:02

and hearing about the Harrowby women connection to them.

0:37:020:37:05

They certainly show that history is as full of interesting women,

0:37:050:37:09

as it is men.

0:37:090:37:11

Welcome back to our magnificent

0:37:280:37:30

valuation day venue location, Sandon Hall.

0:37:300:37:33

As you can see, there are still hundreds of people here.

0:37:330:37:36

We need to find some more antiques to take off to auction, so we're

0:37:360:37:39

going to make a start right now

0:37:390:37:41

as we catch up with Christina Trevanion.

0:37:410:37:43

Christina stepped outside for her next item, where the

0:37:440:37:47

dress code today is...purple.

0:37:470:37:50

Isn't it lovely to be outside in the fresh air? It's got

0:37:500:37:53

so busy in there that it's actually really rather nice

0:37:530:37:56

-just to be in these wonderful gardens.

-Yes, lovely.

0:37:560:37:59

Isn't it beautiful?

0:37:590:38:00

Very like your stunning necklace

0:38:000:38:01

that you've brought in to me

0:38:010:38:03

today, which is probably the most

0:38:030:38:04

understated, most elegant,

0:38:040:38:06

beautiful piece of jewellery that I've seen for a long, long time.

0:38:060:38:09

-That's very nice, thank you.

-Do you wear it?

-No.

0:38:090:38:11

-You should, why...?

-Don't think I ever have worn it.

0:38:110:38:13

-You've NEVER worn it?

-Don't wear jewellery.

0:38:130:38:15

Well, I certainly wouldn't wear

0:38:150:38:17

anything as delicate as that, to be honest.

0:38:170:38:19

It's not my sort of thing.

0:38:190:38:20

So tell me, where's it come from, how did it come to you?

0:38:200:38:23

My father's mother gave it to me probably 40-odd years ago.

0:38:230:38:28

I think it's stunning, I really do.

0:38:280:38:30

We've got this very delicate little 18-carat gold chain here.

0:38:300:38:33

Now, we know it's 18-carat, because on this bolt ring

0:38:330:38:36

clasp at the back, there's a little pad to the right that says "18 CT".

0:38:360:38:41

-Yes.

-So 750 parts of gold per thousand so it makes it

0:38:410:38:44

quite a substantial gold content to it.

0:38:440:38:46

And it's quite a long chain, and then it's terminated

0:38:460:38:50

by these really very beautiful three graduated pearls.

0:38:500:38:55

I personally would say stylistically,

0:38:550:38:57

it dates from the sort of 1920s,

0:38:570:38:59

1930s, would that make sense with it being... Was it your granny's?

0:38:590:39:03

It was my granny's.

0:39:030:39:04

She had a department store, effectively, at the time, in Devizes.

0:39:040:39:09

She'd done very well for herself.

0:39:090:39:11

SHE had a department store?

0:39:110:39:14

-She OWNED a department store?

-Yes, it was hers.

-Wow.

0:39:140:39:17

-She was an entrepreneur.

-In the 1920s?

-Yes.

0:39:170:39:20

She started off life as a milliner in the streets of London

0:39:200:39:22

-and worked her way up to ending up with her own store.

-Wow!

0:39:220:39:26

-Pretty special, isn't it?

-I think so, yeah.

0:39:260:39:29

Certainly, my father was always very impressed with her.

0:39:290:39:31

-I bet!

-She frightened the life out of me, but...!

0:39:310:39:34

That's what happens, isn't it?

0:39:340:39:36

Frightening.

0:39:360:39:37

And this was a gift TO her?

0:39:370:39:40

It was a gift to her from the wife of a jeweller

0:39:400:39:42

and I understand that he made that for her.

0:39:420:39:44

Specifically for her? Really, in the 1920s, using this white gold,

0:39:440:39:49

was quite a new thing. Traditionally, up until that point,

0:39:490:39:51

jewellery was very much in yellow gold and it's representing

0:39:510:39:55

that era of freedom that we're coming into, post-First World War.

0:39:550:39:59

-Yes.

-For me, as a jewellery expert,

0:39:590:40:01

it seems really sad that it's not going to see the light of day,

0:40:010:40:04

and I'm sad that you're not going to wear it,

0:40:040:40:06

because these pearls here need the natural oils from your skin.

0:40:060:40:10

-Ah!

-They need to be lubricated in that sense to keep them

0:40:100:40:13

-from cracking.

-So it needs to be worn.

-It NEEDS to be worn, yes.

0:40:130:40:17

-I mean, I'll volunteer, frankly.

-It'd suit you very well.

0:40:170:40:20

-I think it's beautiful.

-Try it on.

0:40:200:40:23

So, commercially, it does have a value.

0:40:230:40:25

A lot of young people do like white gold, I'm personally...

0:40:250:40:28

Well, I don't really cast myself as young any more, I prefer

0:40:280:40:30

-yellow gold, but white gold is what the market wants.

-Good.

0:40:300:40:33

So, I think a sensible auction estimate for it would be somewhere

0:40:330:40:36

in the region maybe of £150 to £200. What's your thoughts about that?

0:40:360:40:40

-That would be fine, no problem at all.

-Would that be all right?

0:40:400:40:43

I mean, it's a beautiful thing, I'm fairly sure it will sail away

0:40:430:40:46

-and find a new home. In fact, I wish

-I

-could buy it.

0:40:460:40:48

-It's beautiful.

-Thank you very much.

0:40:480:40:50

Back indoors, let's see what Charles has turned up.

0:40:520:40:55

Now, I saw you in the queue outside that imposing facade

0:40:580:41:02

which is Sandon Hall, and what excited me is this clock still ticking now,

0:41:020:41:07

this pocket watch, and, of course, it was ticking many years ago

0:41:070:41:12

-when this really was a home for a family.

-That's correct, yes.

0:41:120:41:16

The watch belongs to my mother-in-law, Dorothy, and Dorothy

0:41:160:41:19

and her husband George were working here for the Earl and Countess.

0:41:190:41:25

Dorothy was a maid to the Countess,

0:41:250:41:27

and George was the chauffeur.

0:41:270:41:29

-Really?

-And so while they were living here,

0:41:290:41:32

then the watch would be here on the premises.

0:41:320:41:35

And tell me, we're talking about the Earl and Countess,

0:41:350:41:38

take me back, how far are we going in Sandon's history?

0:41:380:41:41

To when they were living and working here.

0:41:410:41:43

They were living here in the 1950s,

0:41:430:41:45

through to the early '60s,

0:41:450:41:47

so most of the '50s.

0:41:470:41:50

My husband was brought up here, at the hall.

0:41:500:41:53

I love Sandon Hall, because it's quite a sleepy hall, still.

0:41:530:41:57

-It's beautiful. It's never lost its charm of when it was a family home.

-Yeah.

0:41:570:42:02

And of course, if this pocket watch

0:42:020:42:05

could talk about the conversations it would have enjoyed

0:42:050:42:08

in this dining room...

0:42:080:42:09

-That's right...

-With its gorgeous Chinese wallpaper and of course,

0:42:090:42:13

even conversations and discussions between the maid who was your...

0:42:130:42:17

-Mum-in-law, Dorothy.

-Dorothy, and the Countess.

-That's right.

0:42:170:42:21

-And that's one of those moments.

-That's right, yes, yes.

0:42:210:42:23

-It wasn't a gift from the Earl, was it, at all?

-No, not at all.

0:42:230:42:26

Dorothy's great-grandmother gave it to Dorothy's grand-mother

0:42:260:42:31

for her 21st birthday.

0:42:310:42:34

This actually is a very pretty Swiss pocket watch.

0:42:340:42:38

-OK, it has a German outer case.

-Right.

0:42:380:42:41

And the actual pocket watch movement is really...

0:42:410:42:44

Well, it was made in that centre of excellence

0:42:440:42:47

which was Switzerland in the late 19th century.

0:42:470:42:50

We've got the key, first and foremost,

0:42:500:42:53

-which is lovely.

-It's pretty, isn't it?

0:42:530:42:55

The actual back and dust cover is all in good condition,

0:42:550:42:59

and of course if we just lift that back-plate off, we can see

0:42:590:43:03

the movement, it's a typical 15-jewel pocket watch movement

0:43:030:43:08

of around 1890.

0:43:080:43:11

-Right.

-And, is it now time, here at Sandon Hall to say,

0:43:110:43:15

let's flog it?

0:43:150:43:17

Well, what Dorothy's said is,

0:43:170:43:18

she can't leave it to one person in the family,

0:43:180:43:21

she's got so many grand-children

0:43:210:43:23

and great-grandchildren,

0:43:230:43:25

so she feels that it's the time to let it go.

0:43:250:43:27

-And Dorothy is alive and firing, well?

-Absolutely. Yes.

0:43:270:43:31

I love it a lot.

0:43:310:43:32

I think it's an endearing little pocket watch. Intrinsically,

0:43:320:43:36

not worth a great deal, but we would love to give it

0:43:360:43:38

a send-off with a guide price of between, let's say,

0:43:380:43:42

-£40 and £60.

-Oh, really? Yes, yeah, OK.

0:43:420:43:46

It's very nice, perhaps put a reserve on with discretion,

0:43:460:43:49

maybe if we bid 35, we can say au revoir.

0:43:490:43:53

It's important to let somebody else enjoy its wonderful history.

0:43:530:43:57

Is that OK?

0:43:570:43:58

-That's fine.

-Can we say we're going to start going... Going...

-Going...

0:43:580:44:02

-Gone.

-Gone.

0:44:020:44:03

That brings us to our final valuation.

0:44:030:44:06

Christina's in the conservatory, and about to bring the house down.

0:44:060:44:09

Now, Catherine, normally when autograph books come to my table,

0:44:110:44:14

I sort of start flicking through, and I'm flicking through yours,

0:44:140:44:18

and I thought, "This one looks really exciting!".

0:44:180:44:21

Tell me how you've managed to accumulate ALL these autographs in this book.

0:44:210:44:24

The autograph album belonged to my aunt,

0:44:240:44:26

and she gave it to me when I was about nine years old.

0:44:260:44:29

-Wonderful.

-I didn't bother to collect any after that

0:44:290:44:33

until I started as a teenager going to the clubs in Manchester,

0:44:330:44:36

so we used to go to concerts and see Billy Fury

0:44:360:44:38

and people like that.

0:44:380:44:40

And then it was 1963, I'd gone over

0:44:400:44:43

to my aunt's to stay in Jersey

0:44:430:44:45

with a friend, and she told us that

0:44:450:44:48

-the Beatles were staying in a hotel just down the road.

-No!

0:44:480:44:51

We were so disinterested in The Beatles,

0:44:510:44:53

because we were from Manchester and they were Liverpool

0:44:530:44:56

but we were in the flat one day, and Paul McCartney was literally walking

0:44:560:44:59

down the road to the hotel on his own, coming back from shopping.

0:44:590:45:02

So we went out with a writing pad and he autographed that.

0:45:020:45:06

So, that was then stuck in my album, and then the year after,

0:45:060:45:10

when I went with a local girl to see The Rolling Stones

0:45:100:45:13

who were over, they'd performed at a concert.

0:45:130:45:16

The day after, my aunt ran us up to the airport

0:45:160:45:18

so that we could wave them off.

0:45:180:45:20

We were the only two fans who went up to the airport.

0:45:200:45:22

We were tipped off by the airport staff that they wouldn't be

0:45:220:45:25

coming through the terminal, they'd be going to a side entrance,

0:45:250:45:28

and straight onto the tarmac,

0:45:280:45:29

-so they showed us which gate to wait at.

-Wow!

0:45:290:45:31

Insider information, I love it, Catherine! My goodness!

0:45:310:45:34

We waited at the gate, we were there most of the day,

0:45:340:45:37

but then the taxi came, they got out,

0:45:370:45:39

they were a few yards away from us,

0:45:390:45:41

but they waved and said, "Hi"

0:45:410:45:43

and the manager came over

0:45:430:45:45

and took our albums over and we watched them sign them,

0:45:450:45:47

and then they waved to us and they got in the plane and flew off.

0:45:470:45:50

-Oh, brilliant!

-So... And it was really good,

0:45:500:45:52

because of course it was Brian Jones, you know...

0:45:520:45:56

-Brian Jones passed away, didn't he?

-Yes, exactly, yes.

0:45:560:46:00

-So you got Brian Jones.

-So I got Brian Jones.

-Oh, my goodness.

0:46:000:46:02

And one of them, we didn't know which one,

0:46:020:46:04

but one of them wrote, "The Rolling Stones"

0:46:040:46:06

and put a circle around it in the middle of the page, so...

0:46:060:46:08

So this really brings back some fantastic memories for you,

0:46:080:46:11

-doesn't it?

-Oh, yeah. Mm.

0:46:110:46:12

And the fact that you've collected these yourself...

0:46:120:46:14

This book does read a bit like

0:46:140:46:15

-a who's-who of the 1960s music scene.

-Exactly.

0:46:150:46:18

You know, you've got Cliff Richard, you've got the Stones,

0:46:180:46:20

you've got Paul McCartney... You've got some great names in here.

0:46:200:46:23

I mean, it is a very impressive autograph book.

0:46:230:46:26

So how much do you think waiting at an airport for a day is worth?

0:46:260:46:32

I know, it's incredible, really.

0:46:320:46:34

What's Catherine's time worth, for a day waiting at an airport?

0:46:340:46:37

Well, I mean, in those days, it didn't matter,

0:46:370:46:39

I mean, I've waited for a day here at "Flog It!"

0:46:390:46:42

-so there's not much difference.

-This is very true.

0:46:420:46:46

I mean, it was just so exciting, we couldn't believe that we were

0:46:460:46:50

the only two fans who'd bothered to go up to the airport

0:46:500:46:53

-and wait all day.

-They do all obviously have a value,

0:46:530:46:56

and we can put a value on each and every one of them.

0:46:560:46:59

Having totted them all up, I think

0:46:590:47:00

an appropriate auction estimate for them would be

0:47:000:47:04

-somewhere in the region of £200 to £300.

-That's amazing, really.

0:47:040:47:08

Yeah. Brilliant, yeah.

0:47:080:47:09

-I just think it's wonderful. Thank you so much for bringing it in.

-Oh,

0:47:090:47:13

-well, thank you.

-It's been lovely to see and hear all about it, as well.

0:47:130:47:16

Cos so often, as valuers, we see these books,

0:47:160:47:18

but we never know the story, the human side behind it.

0:47:180:47:21

It's just a faceless book, if you like.

0:47:210:47:24

So hearing your stories, and hearing that you've collected these

0:47:240:47:26

yourself is brilliant, so thank you so much for sharing that with us.

0:47:260:47:29

And, I mean, for me, I've got the memories,

0:47:290:47:32

which I can think of any time,

0:47:320:47:34

whereas the book's just in a drawer, so...

0:47:340:47:36

Catherine's stories of the swinging '60s alongside

0:47:380:47:41

those autographs are priceless.

0:47:410:47:44

It just goes to show, it's worth looking after things.

0:47:440:47:46

One of my great loves, Elaine, as a young man,

0:47:460:47:48

which really he got me into the whole psyche of antiques,

0:47:480:47:51

and asking that question, "If it could talk, what could it tell us?",

0:47:510:47:56

was using my metal detector, digging up metal,

0:47:560:48:00

-which I had no idea what it was.

-Yeah, very exciting.

0:48:000:48:04

If I'd found these in the soil, I may have thought,

0:48:040:48:07

"Well, it could be part of a tractor.

0:48:070:48:10

"Maybe it could be part of a horse shoe."

0:48:100:48:13

But of course, these objects have a pedigree and provenance,

0:48:130:48:19

which is so important.

0:48:190:48:21

If I put on a bit of a twang and became a pirate,

0:48:210:48:24

what might romanticise people is, of course, they are pieces of eight.

0:48:240:48:30

Yes.

0:48:300:48:31

-Real treasure. Real booty.

-Yeah, it's very exciting.

0:48:310:48:34

But in 1707, that great 96-gun vessel HMS Association

0:48:340:48:40

sunk off Sicily, and lost at sea were all of these pieces of eight,

0:48:400:48:46

and of course, last century, unearthed

0:48:460:48:49

in that great London saleroom...

0:48:490:48:51

My boyfriend bought them as a gift, one for my father

0:48:510:48:53

and one for myself, and from the original sale in 1969.

0:48:530:48:57

Wonderful. And, of course, we can go back to 1707,

0:48:570:49:01

when piracy was prolific on the high seas,

0:49:010:49:05

and at that time,

0:49:050:49:06

pieces of eight were really the world's first currency,

0:49:060:49:10

which could be exchanged between continents, and also countries.

0:49:100:49:14

And these are very well-worn, very far removed from looking

0:49:140:49:19

like coins, but when it comes to treasure, this really is treasure,

0:49:190:49:24

-and I love them. Yeah, I really do. So you've got the two.

-Yes.

0:49:240:49:28

I can see one casing is in good condition, which is yours,

0:49:280:49:31

I presume.

0:49:310:49:33

-What happened?

-I can't lie.

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My father was more experienced than myself, and he kept his very well,

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and I was foolish and didn't keep mine in such good condition.

0:49:380:49:42

Yeah, it's had some damp-proofing.

0:49:420:49:44

You've taped it all up, but really,

0:49:440:49:46

although when it comes to toys, the boxes are so important,

0:49:460:49:49

but with these sleeves, they're not so important,

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because they are still evident as to what they represent,

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but, of course,

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what is the most important is these two wonderful pieces of eight.

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I think they're worth today, at auction...

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Got to be careful, because if they were in really great condition,

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they'd have been £1,000, if they were really clean and legible.

0:50:070:50:12

So I would hope we could perhaps put them

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into the sale, perhaps with a guide price

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of between £200 and £300,

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-for the two together...

-OK.

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..and perhaps put a fixed reserve on of £150.

0:50:230:50:27

Yes, I think I'd like a reserve, just because it's been so exciting.

0:50:270:50:31

Yeah.

0:50:310:50:32

Swashbuckling tales of shipwreck and sunken treasure,

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conjured up by those tiny nuggets of ocean plunder.

0:50:360:50:40

What a day we've had here at Sandon Hall.

0:50:400:50:43

Everyone has thoroughly enjoyed themselves

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and our experts have found some real treasures, so sadly, it's time

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to say goodbye to this magnificent host location. Right now,

0:50:490:50:53

we're dropping in on the auction room for the very last time.

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And here's a list of the treasures we're taking with us.

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This elegant necklace made for Derry's grandmother

0:51:000:51:03

is a true one-off.

0:51:030:51:04

A return visit to Sandon Hall for this elegant lady's pocket watch.

0:51:060:51:09

A bargain for a lot of craftsmanship and history.

0:51:090:51:13

And Catherine's autograph book includes what some collectors

0:51:140:51:17

might consider a Holy Grail -

0:51:170:51:19

all five of the original Rolling Stones, including Brian Jones.

0:51:190:51:24

Elaine's pieces of eight are survivors of an incredible true tale

0:51:260:51:30

of shipwreck and treasure.

0:51:300:51:32

Back at the sale-room, first,

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it's Elaine's sunken treasure.

0:51:380:51:40

Why would you want to sell, though?

0:51:400:51:42

Um, well, they're just sort of sitting there, you know.

0:51:420:51:44

They're not really doing anything, and "Flog It!"

0:51:440:51:46

was coming to town. Could I resist you?

0:51:460:51:48

-Not really.

-Yeah. I think it's the first time ever

0:51:480:51:51

we've had pieces of eight on the show.

0:51:510:51:52

It's that romance. Pieces of eight, and here they are.

0:51:520:51:55

Is that how you say it?

0:51:550:51:56

IMITATES PARROT: "Pieces of eight. Pieces of eight."

0:51:560:51:58

-Aye-aye, Captain.

-Long John Silver.

0:51:580:52:00

-Two pieces of eight...

-Hold tight.

-Sotheby's. HMS Association.

0:52:000:52:04

Auctioned 1969. Ha-ha.

0:52:040:52:07

There they are at £120. Two pieces of eight at 120. 130. 140.

0:52:080:52:14

-At £140 now. At £140. All finished, then?

-Come on. One more.

0:52:140:52:21

-Oh, no. I'm walking the plank.

-You are walking the plank, Charles.

0:52:210:52:25

-I'm sinking fast.

-Not today for those, I'm afraid. Lot 56.

0:52:250:52:28

-We didn't sell... We were one bid away. One bid away.

-One bid away!

0:52:300:52:33

-I'm sorry. Sorry, Captain.

-Well, it was so close, Charles.

0:52:330:52:36

"Sorry, Captain"! Yes.

0:52:360:52:37

Well, my son's over there. He'll inherit them.

0:52:370:52:39

Well, that... Hey, that's even better, isn't it?

0:52:390:52:41

-A thumbs up, yeah.

-Keep them in the family.

0:52:410:52:43

Now Ann's pocket watch.

0:52:430:52:45

Ann, I like this watch. I love this little lady's fob watch.

0:52:450:52:48

It's not a lot of money, Charles.

0:52:480:52:50

I know it's not top-quality, but it's still working, isn't it?

0:52:500:52:53

-It is.

-And very good condition. It's very usable.

0:52:530:52:56

This is a steal for me at £40.

0:52:560:52:58

If I could buy it, I would, because I think it's worth every penny.

0:52:580:53:01

Hopefully it'll go for a lot more,

0:53:010:53:02

-and then I won't be disappointed, and nor will you.

-No.

0:53:020:53:05

-And you'll be very happy.

-Indeed.

0:53:050:53:06

It's going under the hammer right now.

0:53:060:53:08

OK, 135, the lady's sterling silver pocket watch at £30, now at 30.

0:53:090:53:14

Where's five? At £30, it is, at 35 now. £35. At 35, 40, where?

0:53:140:53:20

At £35... 35, we're going to sell it then, at £35.

0:53:200:53:25

GAVEL BANGS

0:53:250:53:26

Well it's gone, it's gone.

0:53:260:53:28

Hopefully to someone who loves it and is going to use it.

0:53:280:53:30

-Yeah, and it's been so lovely having the "Flog It!" experience.

-Aww...

0:53:300:53:34

So it's been wonderful.

0:53:340:53:36

Well, the programme wouldn't work without people like you, or you,

0:53:360:53:39

so if you've got anything like that, we would love to "Flog It!".

0:53:390:53:42

Bring it along to one of our valuation days. Details of

0:53:420:53:44

up-and-coming dates and venues you can find on our BBC website.

0:53:440:53:47

If you don't have a computer,

0:53:470:53:48

check the details in your local press, because fingers crossed,

0:53:480:53:51

we're coming to an area very near you soon.

0:53:510:53:54

So, dust 'em down, bring them in, we'll flog them.

0:53:540:53:56

And here's another interesting item.

0:53:590:54:01

GAVEL BANGS

0:54:010:54:03

Good luck, Derry! This necklace belonged to your grandmother.

0:54:030:54:06

Why are you selling this?

0:54:060:54:07

Well, I've had it in a cupboard for 40 years,

0:54:070:54:09

and what's the point, really?

0:54:090:54:10

-Well, if you don't wear it...

-Do you wear it?

-No.

0:54:100:54:12

May have worn it when I first had it, but wouldn't wear it now.

0:54:120:54:15

-OK, will we get that top end?

-Seriously hope so.

0:54:150:54:18

I mean, it's a beautiful necklace. Really beautiful.

0:54:180:54:21

And it's got its original box and it's just got everything

0:54:210:54:23

-going for it, it's absolutely stunning.

-And the condition's good.

0:54:230:54:26

Yeah, it's in white gold, so it's very commercial.

0:54:260:54:28

It's a lovely thing, a very lovely thing.

0:54:280:54:30

-It's what people will pay for it.

-This is true!

-Fingers crossed!

0:54:300:54:34

Let's find out what the bidders think,

0:54:340:54:35

it's going under the hammer now.

0:54:350:54:37

Lot 85, good lot, this.

0:54:390:54:40

The 18-carat white gold and pearl

0:54:400:54:43

pendant necklace at 100... 10...

0:54:430:54:45

120... £120 now. At 120,

0:54:450:54:48

at £120, 130 where?

0:54:480:54:52

-Come on, come on, come on.

-So are we all finished, then? At £120, at 120.

0:54:520:54:57

-Not today for this one.

-Didn't sell.

-OK.

-Do you know...

0:54:580:55:02

It's a fashion thing.

0:55:020:55:04

Well, thank goodness you protected it with a reserve.

0:55:040:55:06

-Yeah, exactly right.

-So we didn't let it go for nothing.

0:55:060:55:08

-OK, so I haven't made my fortune.

-Another day, another sale.

-Aw!

0:55:080:55:11

Well, that brings us to our final lot of the day.

0:55:130:55:15

Catherine's included some signed photographs

0:55:150:55:18

and fan letters to go alongside her autograph book.

0:55:180:55:21

Catherine, I love these autographs.

0:55:210:55:24

I'm a big Stones fan. I really am.

0:55:240:55:27

You're either Beatles or you're The Stones.

0:55:270:55:29

-The Stones.

-Oh, Rolling Stones!

0:55:290:55:31

-There is a Beatle in there, isn't there?

-Yes, Paul McCartney.

0:55:310:55:35

-Do you still listen to The Rolling Stones?

-Oh, definitely.

0:55:350:55:38

-Yeah, so do I.

-I've got all their albums.

0:55:380:55:40

Hopefully, hopefully we'll have some rock and roll fans here.

0:55:400:55:44

-Rock and roll memorabilia, here we go.

-Here we go.

-This is it.

0:55:440:55:46

Lot 200 is the collection of rock and pop autographs.

0:55:490:55:53

-to include the Rolling Stones of course, as well...

-Rolling who?

0:55:530:55:56

-I'm joking, I'm joking!

-..various other signatures...

0:55:560:55:59

So I can start here 170, 80, 190... £190 now, 190.

0:55:590:56:03

£190, 200, 210.

0:56:030:56:06

220... Internet now. At 230, 240, 250, at 260. Still going up, 270.

0:56:060:56:12

280, 290, 300.

0:56:120:56:15

-At 320.

-That's fantastic!

-At £320, 320, 340, 360, 380, £400.

0:56:150:56:22

-At £400, at 420, 440.

-This is more like it.

-Yeah, absolutely.

0:56:220:56:27

460, 480. £500, 550. 550?

0:56:270:56:31

Are you all right?!

0:56:310:56:33

600. At £600? At £600.

0:56:330:56:36

All finished, then. No? 650.

0:56:360:56:40

-At £650.

-Still going!

0:56:400:56:42

One more, internet? Yes. 700. £700.

0:56:420:56:46

At £700.

0:56:460:56:47

700. 50 again, yes or no?

0:56:470:56:50

At £700. Selling it, then, at £700.

0:56:500:56:54

Anybody else at £700? All done, 700...

0:56:540:56:57

GAVEL BANGS

0:56:590:57:01

-Well done!

-Oh, fantastic! Well done, you!

0:57:010:57:03

Thank you for bringing those in. Big, big Stones fan.

0:57:030:57:05

Thank you for inviting me to come along.

0:57:050:57:07

Aww, you go back and put the album on and put it on full volume.

0:57:070:57:10

I do that in the car -

0:57:100:57:11

it's the only chance I can listen to The Rolling Stones,

0:57:110:57:13

cos, you know, my kids don't like it, my wife doesn't like it -

0:57:130:57:16

I get in the car and I go, "Yeah!"

0:57:160:57:17

All of a sudden I feel like Mick Jagger.

0:57:170:57:20

But that was, I mean, you waited there for so long,

0:57:200:57:22

-didn't you, at the airport?

-Oh, yeah.

0:57:220:57:24

But that's what you do when you're a dedicated fan...

0:57:240:57:27

-When you're a fan, absolutely...

-There was no-one else there.

0:57:270:57:29

Anyway, thank you so much for bringing that in.

0:57:290:57:32

Great way to end today's show.

0:57:320:57:33

We really topped the charts, didn't we, with that one?

0:57:330:57:36

I hope enjoyed it. Join us again soon for many more surprises.

0:57:360:57:39

But until then, from Shrewsbury, it's goodbye.

0:57:390:57:42

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