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Today's show comes from the stunning 18th-century Dumfries House,

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situated around 30 miles south of Glasgow.

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Among its treasures is a collection of furniture by the cabinet-maker

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Thomas Chippendale,

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considered to be the best in the world

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from his early period. But it nearly wasn't to be.

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Thanks to a late intervention by the Prince of Wales, back in 2007,

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the contents and the house were saved for the nation,

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for us to enjoy today.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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The story of Dumfries House is definitely

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a cliffhanger of a tale.

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Back in 2007, the house and its contents were put up for sale.

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Lot numbers were attached and the auction date was set.

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Now, what Prince Charles did was he pulled together

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a consortium of charities, government, private investors

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and heritage bodies to buy this magnificent house for the nation.

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And they achieved it just in the nick of time.

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And now the trust, headed up by the Prince of Wales,

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have secured its future, they've rapidly undertaken a schedule

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of regeneration works, all over the estate and inside the house.

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Inside the house, the trust have put

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a programme together to bring it back to life.

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They've struck a fine balance between preserving

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the original contents, restoring and remaking, where necessary,

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in order to imbue the house with its original vitality that you'd

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have had back in the 18th century.

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For example, these sofas and chairs have been covered with a new

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woven silk, but copied from a pattern

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from a chair supplied to the house, back in the 18th century.

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This would have been the original pattern.

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So, hopefully, what they've done is,

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they've made this house look like when the fifth Earl

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arrived at his front door, and he put the key in the lock

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and let himself in.

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This is exactly what he would have seen,

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and I think it's breathtaking.

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And later, I'll be visiting another property in nearby Glasgow,

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which, like Dumfries House, has also been saved for the public to enjoy,

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but where there's been

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a very different approach to the conservation.

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But first, we head south, across the border, as we look

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back at some of the valuation days we visited around the country,

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and on our travels, we've stopped in at the gorgeous 18th century

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Ragley Hall, in Warwickshire, where Charlie Ross's

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aspirations of grandeur matched the sumptuous setting.

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-Alison, could you just pass the caviar?

-Oh, yes.

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We also paid a visit to the Milestones Museum in Basingstoke,

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Hampshire, where hundreds of you turned up to have your items valued.

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And we made a pit stop to the RAF Museum in Hendon, in London,

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where Michael Baggott seemed to have turned into a mechanic.

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I think we might have to take it down the garage to get

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the wheels straightened, or the tracking sorted out.

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But our first port of call for today's show

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is the National Maritime Museum in Cornwall, based in Falmouth,

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where against a backdrop

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of beautiful boats, Caroline Hawley found an intriguing box.

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-Shall we see what's inside?

-Oh, definitely.

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-Wow!

-This was given to me

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by an elderly lady, who was a friend of the family, back in the 1960s.

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-And you've had it ever since?

-I've had it ever since,

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but I've never used it and I've just had it in a display cabinet.

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It's made by Coalport, which is a very good maker.

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And if we look at the mark here, Coalport, England,

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which tells us it's after 1891.

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And I would put it into the beginning of the 20th century.

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So, if we have a look at these, the little coffee cans are gorgeous.

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Coalport, again.

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And here's the mark, here. W and H, for Walker & Hall, which is

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on the box, as well,

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because very often, the retailer is different to the maker.

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We've got Walker & Hall, Sheffield, and the mark tells me it's 1912.

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Which is exactly as it should be.

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It's great. Original box. It looks in fantastic condition.

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It doesn't look like it's been used.

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There's only one bit of sadness, and that's that little hairline here.

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And how that's happened, I don't know,

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because they look in mint condition and that does make a difference.

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It's a lovely set of coffee cans,

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but not going to be worth a fortune.

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I mean, possibly

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£100-£200, if you're lucky.

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So, would you be happy to put it into auction

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with a 100-200 estimate?

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Yes, because I don't use it

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and I know my children aren't going to use it.

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-And we can protect it with a reserve.

-With a reserve, yes.

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Absolutely. I think there's every chance that will go at 100,

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because you've got the make, you've got the silver, the quality.

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-Right. 100 it is.

-OK.

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And all the best with it. Thanks for bringing it along.

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-Thank you.

-That's a pleasure.

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A stunning set, from a time when

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coffee was drunk with a sense of occasion,

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rather than on the hoof in a takeaway cup.

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At the RAF Museum at Hendon, in London, Michael Baggott

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came across a mixed little lot.

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Maria, thank you for bringing along these two intriguing, little

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treasures. Can you tell me where they came from?

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Well, the little thing, this one, was passed on from my family.

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The spectacles, I bought them years and years ago,

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when I was beginning to appreciate a little bit of antiquity.

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I'm Italian by birth and I was intrigued to learn

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all about the English,

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history, geography.

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-So, how long have you been over here in England?

-53 years.

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-53 wonderful years?

-Wonderful years.

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Well, let me tell you about these two little things.

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This is a little silver model, but, helpfully,

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it's got a set of English hallmarks on it.

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It was actually made in Hanau in Germany

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by the company of Neresheimer.

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This is very heavy and very well-made.

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And it's got Chester hallmarks on it, which are sought-after,

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so that's a lovely little thing. It's had a few knocks.

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Well, I'm not surprised.

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I think we might have to take it down the garage to get

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the wheels straightened or the tracking sorted out.

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It's a charming little thing,

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but these are really of the most interest to me,

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because these were made in Birmingham,

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-which is where I'm from.

-Oh! How interesting.

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Now, sometimes, you get part marks on these.

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You always get a mark on the inside of the arm, but, most helpfully

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and most unusually, cos it doesn't often survive, we've got

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the date letter on the end of the spectacles, which is for 1829, so...

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-That's lovely.

-..to be fully marked, to have the original lenses,

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very nice indeed.

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So, I think in terms of value, they make an interesting

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lot for a collector of silver.

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Oh, jolly nice.

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We would put them into the auction with an estimate of £100-£150.

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Oh, how interesting.

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-And a fixed reserve of £100.

-Oh, how lovely.

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And they wouldn't go for any less, so you're happy for us

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-to put them at auction?

-I'm delighted!

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We'll put them in and hope that it charges

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away, like the chariot, on the day.

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-Yes. Thank you so much indeed for having me.

-A pleasure.

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Well, that lot was a sight for sore eyes.

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Next, we're heading over to the Milestones Museum in Basingstoke,

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where Nick Davies took an open-topped tour

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amongst the recreated streets of Hampshire.

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So, Belinda, welcome to Flog It!

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Here we are, on top of an open-top bus.

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And there's a little bus on your charm bracelet here.

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That's fantastic. How did you come by all these charms?

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The charm bracelet was given to me

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as a christening present by my grandparents,

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and, over the years, all the charms have been added by various

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relatives, and I stopped at 22 charms,

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as 22 is my lucky number and it's followed me all my life.

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-Intriguing! Why is it so lucky?

-I was born on the 22nd.

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-Well, that's a good start.

-Yes.

-Well, it's a lovely thing.

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Obviously, you've worked hard to accumulate these, for all

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different reasons, I suspect.

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The nice thing about it is the bracelet itself is quite important,

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because it's 18 carat, and most of them you see are nine carat.

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So, your value is doubled

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because of the value of the actual bracelet itself.

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So, why did you stop at 22? Just because it was your lucky number?

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-Yes.

-No other reason?

-Also, it's a bit cumbersome.

-Yep.

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It gets a bit big, and that was my next question.

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This is all your history here. Why are you selling it?

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It's very pretty.

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My daughter it would be handed it down ultimately,

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and I've spoken about it with her, and it's not something she really

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wants, so if I was to sell it, then we'd hope to go on a cruise,

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because my mother has just died and my daughter's taken it very badly,

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and my mother was instrumental in buying some of the charms as well.

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Oh, what a lovely story.

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-We shall, in the nicest way, get you as far away as possible.

-Yes.

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So, talk me through a couple of these.

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The typewriter, for example. Why have you got one of those?

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The typewriter is because I went to secretarial college and

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-trained as a secretary.

-Love this.

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There's reasons behind them all. OK. Shall we pick another one?

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-18, obviously has got to be your 18th birthday?

-Yes.

-Passport?

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-Passport, cos I liked travelling when I was younger.

-Fantastic.

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Well, from a value point of view, I think

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it's probably going to be roundabout £500 to £600.

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-Wow!

-Has that been worth all your 22 years' hard work?

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-Yes, definitely.

-So, we'll put it in for sale for that.

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As long as you're happy with that. We'll put a reserve on it.

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Very important with gold. Let's get the reserve right, as well.

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So, a bit of discretion on the 500 for the reserve. OK.

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And we're going to have to get off this bus now and take this bus

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with us to the saleroom, and hopefully,

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we'll have a good trip there.

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Super. Thank you.

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Did Belinda's bracelet wow the bidders?

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Well, it's very nearly time to find out,

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as we see how our first batch of items fared at auction.

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But before that, I'm back in Scotland.

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Earlier, I'd mentioned there'd been an extensive

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programme of regeneration works here at Dumfries House.

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Now, unlike other conservation projects, which simply aim to

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halt years of decay, here, at Dumfries, the plan was to

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restore the interior back to its former, magnificent glory.

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And this area's a good example.

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This architectural tour de force is known as the Pewter Corridor,

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because it used to house the extensive collection of pewter ware.

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When the trust took over the house,

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this whole area was painted grey, and that was done back in the 1960s.

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I guess it was the fashion of the day.

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However, there were clues that something more exhilarating

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lay beneath.

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And here it is, look, in this tiny little corner.

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A patch the decorators missed,

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and it's just above the skirting board and it shows colour.

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But, what's more exciting is a photograph has been found

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from the 1920s of this corridor, showing the arches and the cupolas,

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these wonderful domes with intricate detail.

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Sadly, it's in black and white,

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so the trust didn't know what the colour scheme was.

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Extensive work was undertaken to return the Pewter Corridor

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back to its former colour palette.

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Two conservators worked for three months

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on this particular cupola

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scraping back, very carefully, the layers of history,

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to reveal this wonderful decoration and colour scheme.

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If you notice the rest of the corridor, you see the rest

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of the domes here, the colour is slightly more intense and vivid.

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That's because, rather than scrape back, a team of decorators from

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Edinburgh took six weeks to actually copy what

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they saw in that dome onto the other domes,

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and I think the finished result is absolutely fantastic.

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It's breathtaking.

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This is exactly how it would have been back in the day.

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It's time to leave Scotland now,

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as we see how our items fared at auction.

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Michael Baggott was taken

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with Maria's fun German silver chariot, and spectacles,

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from his home city of Birmingham.

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Nick Davies loved Belinda's gold charm bracelet being sold to take

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her daughter on a recuperative cruise.

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And finally, it was time for tea, well, coffee, anyway,

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as Arlene's 20th-century Coalport coffee set went up for sale.

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And we took it to Jeffreys Auctions in Lostwithiel, Cornwall,

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where auctioneer Ian Morris was on the rostrum.

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Remember, whether you're buying or selling at auction, there is

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always commission and VAT to pay.

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Well, going under the hammer, right now, we have a boxed, Art Deco

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coffee set, belonging to Arlene, who sadly cannot be with us.

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She's on holiday. I hope you're enjoying it right now.

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We do have Caroline, our expert, and we're looking at £100-£200.

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-It's Coalport.

-Yeah.

-Very fashionable in its day.

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-Silver-mounted. I think it's going to get the money.

-So do I.

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-It's boxed.

-Yeah.

-It's ready to go.

-Absolutely.

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-Let's hope we get nearer that 200.

-Yeah, hope so.

-This is it.

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-Bids on the books mean that I've got to start at £160.

-That's it.

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-Good, we'll get the top.

-160, 170, now. At 160, both bids with me.

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At £160, I'm bid. 170, now.

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No-one challenging in the room.

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-I'm selling at £160.

-Yes! The hammer's gone down. £160.

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-Almost the top end.

-Fantastic! She'll be pleased with that.

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She'll be very pleased with that. Yes.

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After spending all her holiday money, she'll come back

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-and pick up a cheque. That's what it's all about.

-Brilliant.

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What a great start for our first lot.

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Next, we headed east across the country to London.

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At Chiswick Auctions, William Rouse wielded the gavel as Maria's

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silver spectacles and chariot went up for sale as one lot.

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Well, so far, so good.

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And going under the hammer right now, we've got

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some George IV spectacles.

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Get your eyes set on this, and some novelty silver belonging to Maria.

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You've had these in the family quite a long time, haven't you?

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I have, yes.

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In all my antique history days, I've never bought a pair of specs

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in my life. I don't know if you have.

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-Have you? A pair of vintage...

-I bought a pair

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-of Georgian spectacles last week.

-Oh, really?

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-I've got my finger on the pulse.

-It's all in vogue, isn't it?

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Let's find out what your specs are worth.

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They're going under the hammer.

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-Will a tenner do?

-Cheeky. Start me £60 for it. 60 is bid.

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65, 70, 75, 80, 85,

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90, 95, 100.

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£100, there.

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110, 120, 130,

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140, 150,

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160, 170, 180,

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180, in the far distance.

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At 180. At £180,

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-I'm selling them for 180.

-That's a great result!

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-190.

-Late bid.

-£200.

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In the distance at 200.

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-Amazing.

-£200! Lovely.

-Good heavens.

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-I feel like... Mmm! ..a rich woman, now.

-I bet you do.

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I didn't pay anything near that for mine and I'm pleased.

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Some great results so far.

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But did the lucky streak continue, as a much-needed family cruise

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rested on the sale of Belinda's charm bracelet?

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Nick Jarrett was on the rostrum

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at Andrew Smith & Son auctioneers near Winchester.

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Good luck, Belinda, and it's great to see you again. Who's this?

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-This is my husband, Clive.

-Clive, pleased to meet you.

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We're just about to put that lucky charm bracelet under the hammer.

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22 gold charms, all collected by you.

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And connected to your life, really, which is really nice.

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-And what do you think of these?

-Yes. It's very nice, but

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she's never used it as far as I've known,

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-so I think it has to go.

-I'm sure there will be a collector out there.

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And it's gold! There's a lot of value there,

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and hopefully, we'll get £600-£700.

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Hopefully. It should be all right.

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-That's worth having, isn't it?

-Absolutely.

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Let's find out what the bidders think.

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I'm going to start you at 280...

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Fill it in, 320, 340, 360, 380.

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-Oh, that's better.

-400. 420, 440, 460, 480,

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500.

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At £500, I have.

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550, I have.

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570, 600.

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At £600, then. On the net at £600.

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And 20, is it?

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620, new bidder.

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650. 670.

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At 650, then. At 650 it is, on the net at 650...

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-Are we all done? At £650.

-GAVEL BANGS

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£650 is a fantastic result. That's a good result.

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-Yeah. I'm really pleased with that.

-I'd be very happy with that.

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Absolutely.

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-Look at the big smile on your face.

-There's a big smile.

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-You can treat yourself now.

-Yeah.

-Definitely.

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What a fantastic result for Belinda and her family.

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At £180. All done.

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There's something very heartening about these grand,

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country houses that have recently been saved for the nation to enjoy.

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Now, the type of restoration work that's done here at

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Dumfries House has made everything look shiny and new, if you like.

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It's full of colour and vitality, giving the public

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a taste of what things would have looked like back in Georgian times.

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Now, not far from here, 30 miles away in Glasgow,

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there's another house that's been saved for the nation.

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But this one offers something very different.

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And this is it. It's a work-in-progress, if you like.

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Quite a contrast from the flawless Dumfries House.

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These walls tell a story of a different type of conservation.

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But where are we and what's it all about?

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Well, to understand that, we need to start at the beginning.

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This is Holmwood, a unique villa designed by the famous

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architect Alexander Greek Thomson,

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who started his architectural training in 1834,

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at the incredibly young age of 12.

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He was nicknamed Greek

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because he was an exponent of the Greek Revival Movement,

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which drew inspiration from the principles of ancient Greek

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design, like harmony, symmetry, proportion and balance.

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Greek villas usually are symmetrical,

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but here you can see Thomson has definitely broken the rules.

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This is asymmetrical.

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But if you look beyond the impressive footprint of this

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building, you can

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still see the Greek influence cut into all the masonry work.

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Holmwood has had numerous owners

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and it's been used for many different functions

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since it was built for businessmen James Cooper

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back in 1857 to 1858.

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For instance, from the late 1950s onwards,

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it was run as a school, by the Sisters Of Our Lady Of The Missions.

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But, in 1994, the house

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and the grounds were threatened with redevelopment.

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Naturally, this caused widespread concern,

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especially amongst the newly-founded Alexander Thomson Society.

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Luckily enough, Glasgow City Council stepped in.

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They refused the planning permission,

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and the National Trust for Scotland were able to acquire the house.

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Although the trust were keen to preserve the unique exterior

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of Holmwood House, it was the inside that held a real fascination.

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Unusually, for an architect of the time, Thomson exerted

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the same control over the interior design as he did over the exterior,

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again, drawing on the classical Greek style.

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Underneath these layers, Thomson left

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extraordinary decorative schemes,

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which the National Trust for Scotland

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is still uncovering and restoring ten years on.

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I'm meeting conservator Suzi Reid to find out more.

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What an iconic building! It's playful.

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It's whimsical, and it's full of colour.

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It's so different to other properties

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that are open to the public.

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Why do you think it was important that this house was saved?

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It's widely believed to be one of the most elaborate residential

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villas, and it's an architectural wonder by Alexander Greek Thomson.

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Charles Rennie Mackintosh tends to get a little bit more of the kudos,

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but architecturally,

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many people think Greek Thomson was superior.

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And you've been working on this piece for a long time, haven't you?

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Yeah. Well, when we took the property on in '94,

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all the walls were covered in white wallpaper and white paint.

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This section here, down the side of the fireplace,

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is an area that's been worked on several times,

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and opened up, to be able to see the full extent of the pattern there.

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-This is painted directly onto the wall, is it, with a stencil?

-Yes.

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It's part stencil, and it's part freehand.

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It's really, really difficult to take it back.

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The reason we only got this far in the first stage, is because

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we felt that we were doing damage to the underlying resin layer.

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But our specialist wall-painting conservators that we employ

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to do the work were very, very careful.

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And it took them about two weeks to reveal this section of wall here.

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We purposefully made the decision here as well

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to leave these overlying layers of paint on.

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-Just different layers of history, really.

-Yes.

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So that the public could see the evolution of the decoration

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that happened throughout the history of the property.

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-Peeling back the layers of time.

-Absolutely.

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But I love the fact it's full of colour now.

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We believe that the design around this room, particularly,

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was placed so that you actually appreciated it most

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-when people were sat at the dining table.

-It's at the right eye level.

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Yes. So, it's all very low down.

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And what about the frieze you see running around the room?

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This is the Iliad Frieze, which is a paper

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representation of Homer's poem.

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When the trust acquired the property,

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it was covered in wallpaper and white paint,

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so the specialist paper conservator that was brought in to do

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this work, very, very meticulously removed all the

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residues of those layers, and was able to reveal the frieze.

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-And it's in excellent condition.

-It is, isn't it?

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Well, look, I'm ready for a tour of the house.

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Shall we go and look at another room?

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-Why don't we go and see the parlour?

-OK. After you.

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What a fabulous ceiling! Gosh!

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This is an architect having fun with his work.

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Yet, it feels like a practical room, as well.

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Yeah. Well, when it was originally built, the front of the

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building faced out onto Cathcart Castle, which no longer exists.

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But, obviously, with this big bay window,

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you'd get the full view of the grounds and the castle

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-across the river.

-It's a good viewing platform, isn't it?

-Yes.

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And I understand that this space was designed for a worktable

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for ladies to sit in the window.

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-Really? That was the remit, was it?

-Yes.

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The best resource the trust has had to help them

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with the conservation work at Holmwood, is a book called

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The Villa And Cottage Architecture, published in 1868,

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around a decade after the house was built.

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The book contains illustrated plates and descriptions of the interiors.

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We have the main view of the property from the exterior there

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and then we have some of the original designs,

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and this is for the parlour that we're standing in now.

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And so you can see this section here.

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-This is the ceiling above us, in the window.

-Isn't that fabulous?

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-What wonderful line drawings!

-Yeah. They're beautiful.

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So, this has helped with the conservation?

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This has given us a really good starting point.

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It allows us to have a better idea of what we might be looking

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for underneath all the paint layers that have been

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applied over the years.

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I mean, this, really, to me, brings the whole thing alive.

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Just seeing this now, it makes it so obvious

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what he was trying to do.

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It really helps us to understand how the rooms might have been used.

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Restoration work has also been undertaken in the stairwell,

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where a strip of the original, decorative scheme has been revealed.

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Thomson has outdone himself here.

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The impressive cupola above the stairs echoes the bay window

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in the parlour and the banister and the newel posts

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have been carved with a Greek-inspired pattern.

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And this is the drawing room.

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So, you can see there's an awful lot going on in this room.

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You can see a section of wall pattern above the dado rail

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has been revealed, so you have to try and imagine what this

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whole room would have looked like with that all the way round.

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There's the stars on the ceiling.

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We think it's possible that the 3-D stars might have been added later.

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And that they originally were just painted on.

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-Probably gilt as well.

-Yeah.

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But if you could just imagine just how rich this room would have been

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with all of the decoration all the way round.

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What does the future hold in conservation here?

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Well, again, we've still got so much research that needs to be done.

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It's just a very slow progress.

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We need to make sure that we're not damaging anything that's here

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and we're interpreting it as well as we can

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to allow the public to really understand it.

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It's debatable whether we will reveal any more cos it is

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-quite risky for the underlying layers...

-Yeah.

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..but we could perhaps come up with different ways of interpreting it

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-so it's more understandable.

-Sure. Good luck with that.

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Visitors certainly get a different experience when they visit Holmwood

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as they have to try

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and imagine exactly how the house would have looked when it was

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built to Alexander Greek Thomson's original specifications.

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I'm so glad it survived.

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I think it's a marvel.

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Right, it's time to get back to our tour of the country,

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as we visit Ragley Hall, a Georgian stately home in Warwickshire,

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where Charlie Ross soaked up the opulent surroundings.

0:26:390:26:43

Alison, could you just pass the caviar?

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-Oh, yes. I wish I had some(!)

-That's wonderful.

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We'll just have a look at your items here

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-and then we'll have dinner, shall we?

-Yeah.

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There's quite a few people coming for dinner tonight as you can see.

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-That'd be good.

-I LOVE these and do you know why?

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I'm going to use an expression you may never have heard before.

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-M and B.

-Ah.

-M and B.

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Does that mean anything to you?

0:27:080:27:10

-Someone said something about something and boxed.

-Exactly.

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Toys have generally been played with,

0:27:130:27:16

especially tin plate toys,

0:27:160:27:17

and it renders them really useless from a collecting point of view.

0:27:170:27:21

M and B means mint and boxed

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and I think it can safely say that these have never been

0:27:250:27:29

out of their boxes, have they?

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Well, hardly, no. Only to be looked at and then put back in.

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I know, and, strangely, they were made to be played with.

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I know, but we didn't have the train that went with it.

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-Oh, that's a point. You haven't got an engine.

-No.

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-Did you ever have an engine?

-No.

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Well, they come from a toy shop so he didn't give us the engine.

0:27:450:27:48

So did you buy them from a toy shop?

0:27:480:27:50

No, my father's neighbour had a toy shop

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and he closed it down somewhere in the '60s or early '70s

0:27:530:27:56

and he just gave these to my dad, saying, "The kids might like them,"

0:27:560:28:00

but, unfortunately, we couldn't find an engine to go with it.

0:28:000:28:02

-You know who made them?

-Hornby.

-Hornby, yeah.

0:28:020:28:05

-Do you know who Hornby was part of?

-Er, no.

0:28:050:28:08

-You've heard of Meccano?

-Yes.

-They were part of the Meccano set-up.

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The wonderful thing about having the boxes,

0:28:110:28:14

you know which one you've got.

0:28:140:28:16

Coach number 31. A passenger brake van.

0:28:160:28:20

We've got a couple of tenders. Flat bed truck here.

0:28:200:28:24

There's a good variety. What made you pull them out of a drawer?

0:28:240:28:27

-Well, they were in my father's loft.

-Yeah.

0:28:270:28:29

We'd always said to him, "For goodness' sake, get rid of them!"

0:28:290:28:33

and he said, "No, they'll be worth something one day."

0:28:330:28:35

And I said, "Well, if they do go to auction you can put it towards

0:28:350:28:38

"your diamond wedding fund," cos in a couple of years they're going

0:28:380:28:41

to be having their diamond wedding.

0:28:410:28:43

-Diamond wedding is really quite a triumph, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Wonderful.

0:28:430:28:46

Looking at the prices, that's another wonderful thing, isn't it?

0:28:460:28:49

Six shillings and ninepence.

0:28:490:28:52

I think we're looking at probably a sale room estimate of £60-£100.

0:28:520:28:57

Reserve them at £60

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and I think, with the right day,

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we might just tickle over that 100, you never know.

0:29:050:29:08

The more we can tickle over 60,

0:29:080:29:11

-the more you'll have to eat at the party.

-More caviar, we'll have.

0:29:110:29:14

It'll be a very small piece of caviar but thank you for

0:29:140:29:17

bringing them along and the thing that intrigues me is the condition.

0:29:170:29:20

Remember, M and B, and it's always nice to see M and B.

0:29:200:29:25

A great little lot.

0:29:260:29:28

Soon we'll see if they found their matching engine at auction.

0:29:280:29:32

But first we return to Milestones Museum in Basingstoke where

0:29:320:29:35

some antique dolls captured Elizabeth Talbot's interest.

0:29:350:29:40

So, Pam and Frank, you've brought your extended family with you today.

0:29:400:29:43

What can you tell me about these young ladies?

0:29:430:29:45

These were my mother's dolls.

0:29:450:29:48

My mother was born in 1904 in Bloemfontein in South Africa.

0:29:480:29:51

She was an army daughter.

0:29:510:29:53

They went to Egypt in 1912 and then to the North West Frontier with

0:29:530:29:58

the 21st Lancers in about 1914, and 1915 was when the photo was taken.

0:29:580:30:03

Ah, yes, that's a delightful photograph,

0:30:030:30:06

showing your mother holding her precious doll.

0:30:060:30:09

That's charming to have so much direct history.

0:30:090:30:12

So who owns them now? They were passed to yourself, were they?

0:30:120:30:15

-They were passed to me and I passed them on to our daughter...

-Right.

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..who doesn't like them, thinks they look rather morbid and frightening.

0:30:190:30:23

-They haven't been out of the box since.

-Have they not?

-No.

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So they've been hidden away and so on.

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-So the beneficiary of the sale would be your daughter?

-Yes.

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And perhaps our grand-daughters as well.

0:30:320:30:34

Ah, so another generation to benefit. How lovely.

0:30:340:30:37

Do you or your daughters know anything about them as dolls?

0:30:370:30:39

I think they've got marks on the backs of their heads.

0:30:390:30:42

-I presume they're German.

-They are, all three, made in Germany.

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In each case you have a Bisque or porcelain head

0:30:470:30:50

and then you have a body which is jointed with limbs,

0:30:500:30:54

but that is made out of... it's almost like a plaster of Paris.

0:30:540:30:56

It's a different substance.

0:30:560:30:58

In most cases, a collector would say the majority of the value is

0:30:580:31:01

contained in the head.

0:31:010:31:02

Obviously it's nice to have the whole doll,

0:31:020:31:04

but if the head is damaged, that's where you lose value quite quickly.

0:31:040:31:07

The fact that these have been so well looked after has meant

0:31:070:31:10

they've survived very well

0:31:100:31:12

latterly, so the costumes, which are also very fragile have

0:31:120:31:15

survived better than they might had they been out in the light

0:31:150:31:18

and the wigs also, the hair, is also in reasonably good condition.

0:31:180:31:22

This one here has closing eyes and an open mouth.

0:31:220:31:24

They all have different expressions.

0:31:240:31:27

The different models have different markings on the back.

0:31:270:31:30

Some of them are rarer than others

0:31:300:31:32

but then other points can be scored, if you like, by how well they're

0:31:320:31:36

painted, so if the eyebrows are nicely painted,

0:31:360:31:39

if the detail of the mouth and the cheeks is well-coloured,

0:31:390:31:41

a collector will pay more or less depending on whether they think it's

0:31:410:31:44

a good example and a happy doll, a friendly face,

0:31:440:31:47

or whether it looks a bit scowly or grumpy whatever.

0:31:470:31:50

I think realistically total value would be between £200-£300

0:31:500:31:54

-for the three of them.

-Wow.

0:31:540:31:56

-That's all right.

-Are you pleased with that?

-Very.

-Oh, good.

0:31:560:31:59

£300, we'd be happy.

0:31:590:32:01

I presume your daughter would appreciate a reserve being

0:32:010:32:03

-placed on them?

-Yeah.

0:32:030:32:05

So if you put £200, the lower end of the estimate,

0:32:050:32:07

but use a bit of discretion. Use the auctioneer.

0:32:070:32:09

If it got to within 10%, then they could sell,

0:32:090:32:12

but, otherwise, they'd be protected.

0:32:120:32:14

I just think the magic of them being in the box and I don't know if they

0:32:140:32:18

can have a copy of the photograph,

0:32:180:32:20

just give a bit of provenance to it, will just add charm to the lot.

0:32:200:32:24

Wonderful. Thank you so much.

0:32:240:32:26

I'm sure that they will find a new owner who will love them dearly,

0:32:260:32:29

-so thank you for that.

-Thank you.

-Thank you very much.

0:32:290:32:33

Bisque-headed dolls often divide collectors.

0:32:330:32:36

Some find them scary, whilst others admire their unique beauty.

0:32:360:32:41

Back across the Scottish border, it's the sumptuous

0:32:410:32:43

Rococo furnishings which I've been marvelling at.

0:32:430:32:47

The Georgian decor here at Dumfries House is incredibly ornate.

0:32:480:32:52

At our valuation day at Falmouth,

0:32:520:32:54

an equally ornate piece caught Charles Hanson's eye.

0:32:540:32:58

Goodness me, Penny, it's impressive.

0:33:030:33:05

-I'm glad you think so.

-Tell me about your object.

0:33:050:33:08

This has been in my family for as long as I can remember.

0:33:080:33:12

As a child, we used to have very formal Sunday teas

0:33:120:33:15

and it was always trotted out for scones and things like that.

0:33:150:33:20

-Have you any idea how far it goes back?

-I've no idea.

0:33:200:33:22

It's a wonderful table adornment, isn't it? It sits so well.

0:33:220:33:26

It's an object that was made really at the height of our powers

0:33:260:33:29

under Queen Victoria.

0:33:290:33:31

Victorians got very involved in different styles, so you've

0:33:310:33:36

got the sea scrolls, which reflect the Rococo or the near-Rococo.

0:33:360:33:41

You've got the anthemion here, which is a neoclassical emblem.

0:33:410:33:47

You've got fruit, vine leaves here

0:33:470:33:51

and other different flower heads

0:33:510:33:53

and, to finish it off, it's mounted on these very dainty,

0:33:530:33:58

almost Rococo shell-cast feet.

0:33:580:34:03

This pierced cut work is all in good condition

0:34:030:34:06

and just here, Penny, there we go,

0:34:060:34:10

-the infamous mark, the crown.

-Right.

0:34:100:34:14

That's the mark for Sheffield.

0:34:140:34:17

The maker mark we can see down here, it's marked JD & S

0:34:170:34:22

and they were James Dixon & Sons

0:34:220:34:24

who were a leading industrial silversmith working in Sheffield.

0:34:240:34:28

They were really on a par to Elkington's and other big names.

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They were founded in the year 1806

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and were very highly regarded for quality.

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We value the hallmarks by the clarity, by the crispness,

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and also the date letter there, which is G for 1881.

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It's a wonderful object. It sits so proud.

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We'll be honoured to handle it at auction.

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-It's as good as it was on the day it was made.

-Wonderful.

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-And I would value it at between 150 and 250.

-Right.

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What I would propose, Penny,

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is putting a reserve at £150 with a 10% discretion.

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I feel that's its true market value in the current market.

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-That sounds fine.

-Are we going to auction?

-We're going to auction.

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Are we hopefully going to have a sweet taste out of that bowl?

0:35:180:35:21

-Well, it would be nice.

-Can't wait. Thanks, Penny. Thanks so much.

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What a sweet ending to the last of our valuations.

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We'll be finding out how our final batch of items

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fared at auction very soon,

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but first, I'm making

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one last visit back to Scotland.

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Here at Dumfries House,

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restoration work has been feverishly under way

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since the house was bought for the nation back in 2007

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and one of the rooms that's received particular attention is this,

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the family bedroom,

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and it's dominated by this magnificent four-poster bed,

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designed and built by Thomas Chippendale,

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who also designed 50 other pieces of incredible furniture for this house.

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Now, this bed is made of the latest fashionable Cuban mahogany

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imported from the West Indies.

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You can see one of the posts there

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resembling a fluted Classical column.

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Intricate cresting all around this bed in the Rococo style,

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centred by a conch shell, but it's all been covered in fabric.

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When the trust took over the house, they decided to restore the bed back

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to its original splendour, as it hasn't been refurbished since 1868.

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The work took two years to complete and it's incredibly skilled

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and I think they've done a terrific job.

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All of this wonderful deep relief intricate carving,

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as you can see, on the headboard and all

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the cresting around the bed has been covered in a newly-woven silk.

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Now that takes a long time to do and it's a copy of 18th century damask

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fabric that was found elsewhere in the house,

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like on the chairs I showed you earlier.

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It really is splendid and three mattresses have also been added

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and if I lift this carefully, I can show you the standard

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configuration back in the 1700s.

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The bottom mattress, this one here, is stuffed with horsehair.

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The middle, that's stuffed with wool and the top mattress,

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that's the key one, the little thin one,

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that's stuffed with feathers,

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so that should give you the best night's sleep and,

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if it doesn't, well, you're incredibly hard to please!

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Now you might notice that the bed is slightly short in length.

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That's because back in the 18th century people were slightly shorter

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but they also feared contracting the disease tuberculosis,

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so they believed if you slept upright

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you could breathe more freely and you could cough more freely

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and that way you just might dodge the disease.

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Now time for our final visit to the auction with our last lot of items

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and here's a reminder of what they were.

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Mint and boxed, Alison's Hornby train carriages

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were leftover rolling stock from a closed down toy shop.

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They were showered with affection by Frank's mother

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but the three Bisque-headed dolls had to find a loving new owner.

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And finally, Penny's silver bonbon dish was

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a shining example of an ornate Victorian centrepiece,

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which we sold back at Jeffreys Auctioneers back in Cornwall

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where Ian Morris was on the rostrum once more.

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Penny, we're just about to sell Granny's silver,

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your lovely centrepiece for the table, that bonbon dish.

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It's Victorian. It's lovely, actually,

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-so you can remember this as a little girl, can you?

-Yes.

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My grandmother used to live with us

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and we had these very formal Sunday teas.

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I believe in things like that on Sundays,

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to have a proper sit-down meal with the family.

0:38:400:38:43

-Although it's old fashioned, it's a classic...

-Yeah.

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..and it's a great centrepiece and a statement.

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-Let's find out what the bidders think, OK?

-Indeed.

-Here we go.

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£100, say no more. £100 I'm bid.

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110 to get on. 110. 120.

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130. 140.

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150. 160.

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170, sir? 180.

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190. 200.

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210. 220.

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220 at the back.

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At £220.

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Very pleased with that. Somebody's going to cherish it.

0:39:120:39:15

-I hope so.

-Yes, they will.

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And they'll use that as the wow factor as their new centrepiece

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-and enjoy it.

-Yes, not just as Christmas.

-No.

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What a great start.

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Next, let's find out how those Hornby train carriages sold.

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We took them to Bigwood Fine Art Auctioneers

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in Stratford-upon-Avon

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and Christopher Ironmonger was on the rostrum.

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-Alison, it's great to see you again. Who have you brought along?

-My dad.

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-What's your name?

-Alan.

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Alan, pleased to meet you and, of course, these are your trains?

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-Boxed.

-Yes.

-Not played with ever?

-No.

-Gosh.

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Charlie, I agree with the valuation but we could have

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one or two surprises because of the mint condition.

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-M and B.

-Yes.

-Mint and boxed. That's what we like.

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-The reserve's been tickled up.

-It has. It's 80 to 120, fixed at 80.

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Don't blame you for that. I think it'll sail through that.

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We're going to find out what this lot think right now.

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It's going under the hammer.

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I've got 50 on the book. At 50, 60 now.

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70, is it? 70 on the net.

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5, is it? 75, room.

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75 room bid. 80, net.

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-At 80 now.

-One more bid, come on.

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75 in the room. Are we done at 75?

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Sure?

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THEY SIGH

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-Oh, it's experience.

-Oh!

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-What did I say, 60? Never mind.

-You did.

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I can't believe that. They were mint and boxed but we hit the buffers.

0:40:360:40:41

-Never mind. He's here to take them home.

-I'm taking them home.

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-Back in the loft.

-Back in the loft.

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There's always a different auction on another day.

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Next, let's see how those three Bisque-headed dolls did.

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We returned to Andrew Smith & Son near Winchester to sell them.

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Mick Jarrett was wielding the gavel.

0:40:590:41:01

Good luck, Pam and Frank.

0:41:010:41:03

We're about to put those Bisque-head dolls under the hammer.

0:41:030:41:05

There's three of them. Good German name. Quality, quality, quality.

0:41:050:41:09

-Why are you selling these?

-They belong to Frank's mum...

-Yeah.

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..and we gave them to our daughter.

0:41:130:41:15

-She doesn't like the look of them at all.

-I don't like the look of them.

0:41:150:41:18

I'm not trying to put anyone off buying them or collecting them,

0:41:180:41:21

but dolls have always freaked me out, especially the ones

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that have the mouth and the eyes that go like that.

0:41:250:41:28

-But there are lots of collectors out there.

-There are.

0:41:280:41:31

-People either love them or hate them.

-Anyway, good luck.

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These will go. Here we go.

0:41:340:41:36

Several bids on here.

0:41:360:41:38

I have to start you at...

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-380.

-Straight in.

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-400, can I say?

-Nearly double.

0:41:430:41:45

400 on the phone. 420. 450?

0:41:450:41:47

-Sue will be pleased.

-480, 500.

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And 20. 550.

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580, 600.

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And 20. 650.

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680. 720.

0:41:590:42:02

These are pretty special.

0:42:020:42:03

There's something special about one of these.

0:42:030:42:05

780. 800.

0:42:050:42:07

And 20. 850.

0:42:070:42:08

-880, 900.

-Good gracious!

0:42:080:42:11

We've sold these Bisque-head dolls before

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but not for this sort of money.

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980.

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£1,000.

0:42:150:42:17

1,050. 1,100.

0:42:170:42:18

On the phone, £1,100.

0:42:180:42:20

1,150 can I say anywhere? 1,150?

0:42:200:42:23

£1,200.

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1,250, last chance on the net.

0:42:270:42:29

£1,200. Any more? At 1,200 then.

0:42:290:42:32

I still don't like them.

0:42:340:42:37

-Who gets the money?

-My daughter.

0:42:370:42:39

Yeah, because you gave them to her.

0:42:390:42:41

-Grandma would have been pleased with that.

-Of course, yes.

0:42:410:42:45

There was something about one of them. I don't know what it was.

0:42:450:42:49

As you said, it was those eyes.

0:42:490:42:51

48, 50.

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Well that's it for today's show.

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You've shown us some wonderful treasures from across the country

0:43:010:43:04

and we've had some fantastic results in the auction room,

0:43:040:43:08

especially those three Bisque-headed porcelain dolls.

0:43:080:43:11

They definitely did the business and that's what it's all about.

0:43:110:43:14

I thoroughly enjoyed exploring the groundbreaking restoration work

0:43:140:43:18

that's happened here at Dumfries House.

0:43:180:43:20

It looks fabulous and I hope you've enjoyed the show.

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So, until the next time, it's goodbye.

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